] [18:12] <Maaz> I am <True Name> [18:12] <Maaz> topic <topic> [18:12] <Maaz> (agreed | idea | accepted | rejected) <statement> [18:12] <Maaz> minutes so far [18:12] <Maaz> meeting title is <title> [18:12] <Vince-0> in real life [18:12] <Kilos> well just be patient with pros lag [18:13] <Kilos> oh haha ok Vince-0 [18:14] <magespawn> excellent [18:14] <Kilos> pieter2627 did you get agenda link open yet? [18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: lagging is fine now... I just hope it stays ok... maybe just a matter of patience on my side [18:17] <Kilos> we dont mind waiting for your lag inetpro [18:17] <Kilos> hi rusbus hows the curry muncher [18:17] <rusbus> I made a curry last night [18:17] <rusbus> but it was so-so [18:18] <Kilos> aw [18:18] <rusbus> just with some random stuff in the cupboard [18:18] <Kilos> what did you do wrong [18:18] <Kilos> oh ok [18:18] <rusbus> it was enough to calm the beast within [18:18] <Kilos> lol [18:18] <Kilos> i ate bunny chow every day for 3 years [18:19] <rusbus> damn son [18:19] <rusbus> did you work in the sugar cane fields? [18:19] <Kilos> no man i got divorced [18:19] <rusbus> welp [18:19] <rusbus> soz [18:20] <Kilos> warner beach had some great bunnys [18:20] <Kilos> as you come out of warner beach over the road was a veggie and takeaway [18:20] <Kilos> lekker bunnies [18:21] <rusbus> the one by baggies beach? [18:21] <Kilos> i dont know baggies beach [18:21] <Kilos> you know the tidal pool [18:22] <Kilos> from there a bit south was the entrance to the beach [18:22] <Kilos> from the doonside road [18:22] <rusbus> ya thats baggies beach :p [18:22] <pieter2627> Kilos: yes, found the issue [18:23] <Kilos> what was it pieter2627 [18:23] <Kilos> we didnt wear baggies back then that was for the punks on planks [18:23] <pieter2627> i removed the drive that had squid's pool on it - broke all http connections [18:23] <Kilos> ai! [18:24] <pieter2627> so turned squid off for the night [18:24] <Kilos> have you only got one browser [18:24] <pieter2627> who, me? [18:24] <Kilos> ya you [18:25] <pieter2627> no, FF and chrome [18:25] <Kilos> chrome ties too much to google for me , i use it but not often [18:26] <Kilos> opera-developer is my main browser [18:26] <Kilos> then epiphany and modori [18:26] <pieter2627> i love my fox - chrome is for testing stuff [18:26] <Kilos> midori [18:27] <Kilos> does that squid thing affect both? [18:27] <Kilos> nearly lunchtime tumbleweed :D [18:28] <inetpro> ai! [18:28] <Kilos> what now? [18:28] <Kilos> 2 mins and counting [18:29] <pieter2627> squid caches all the web traffic, and is setup to catch all of them on the server without config [18:30] <Kilos> ah [18:30] <Kilos> hi amanica [18:30] <Kilos> hi superfly [18:30] <Kilos> inetpro are you winning [18:31] <superfly> I can't chair, I'm busy with other stuff [18:32] <Kilos> ok superfly but youll be here hey? [18:33] <inetpro> Maaz: start meeting about Monthly Meeting for June 2015 [18:33] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:33] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:33] <Maaz> Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:33] <superfly> I'll try to be here, and I'll probably respond when you say my nick [18:33] <Kilos> Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:33] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty [18:33] <inetpro> thanks everyone for joining our monthly meeting again [18:33] <superfly> Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [18:33] <Maaz> superfly: Righto [18:33] <inetpro> please tell Maaz your name for the sake of the minutes [18:33] <inetpro> Maaz: I am <True Name> [18:33] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto [18:34] <Cryterion> Maaz I am Gavin Bauer [18:34] <Maaz> Cryterion: Okay [18:34] <inetpro> Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:34] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto [18:34] <andrewlsd> Maaz: I am Andrew Mac [18:34] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Okay [18:34] <tumbleweed> Kilos: nearly :) [18:34] <Kilos> hhe [18:34] <magespawn> Maaz I am Greg Eames [18:34] <Maaz> magespawn: Done [18:35] <Vince-0> Maaz I am Vincent Swart [18:35] <Maaz> Vince-0: Alrighty [18:35] <inetpro> the Agenda for this evening is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150623 [18:35] <inetpro> anyone have anything to add, please tell me now [18:36] <pieter2627> Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:36] <Maaz> pieter2627: Yessir [18:36] <inetpro> pieter2627: ? [18:36] <Kilos> hi qwebirc23847 [18:36] <pieter2627> inetpro: I asked earlier about ubuntu-in-the-wild [18:36] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za [18:37] <pieter2627> should maybe add that [18:37] <inetpro> pieter2627: where should we add that? [18:37] <pieter2627> agenda [18:37] <inetpro> pieter2627: I mean under which sub-heading? [18:38] <pieter2627> Plans or Misc - don't know which is best [18:38] <Kilos> what is ubuntu--in-the-wild [18:38] <inetpro> pieter2627: ok, I made a note to discuss under misc [18:38] <inetpro> Kilos: later [18:39] <inetpro> anything else? [18:39] <Kilos> yessir [18:39] <inetpro> andrewlsd: you here? [18:39] <andrewlsd> yip [18:39] * inetpro noticed something else from andrewlsd side this afternoon [18:39] <Kilos> the fest andrewlsd [18:39] <andrewlsd> inetpro: yip [18:40] <Kilos> you didnt add it [18:40] * andrewlsd was going to apologize later.... [18:40] <Kilos> lol [18:40] <inetpro> what was the topic? [18:41] <inetpro> ok, I shall find it in a minute... let's move on [18:41] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:41] <inetpro> the previous minutes are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150526 [18:41] <Maaz> Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:41] <inetpro> I [18:41] <inetpro> oops... I will give everyone a minute to read through that [18:43] * inetpro making a note under events for Khayelitsha Bandwidth Barn Installfest [18:43] <Kilos> yay i couldnt find it [18:43] * andrewlsd was also making such a note [18:43] <inetpro> ok, anyone have anything to raise from last meeting [18:44] <pieter2627> The part(outcome) of rethinking goals - will that be discussed? [18:44] <inetpro> pieter2627: hmm... good question [18:45] * inetpro was thinking about it... never really had the time to start a conversation about it [18:45] <inetpro> anyone want to talk about it? [18:45] <inetpro> superfly raising some serious issues there to think about [18:46] <inetpro> not sure whether we have a solution just yet... something we have to work on I guess [18:46] <inetpro> Kilos: your views? [18:46] <Kilos> none as yet [18:47] <Kilos> everyone too busy with life [18:47] <superfly> I mostly asked the questions to see why we do things. Hoping that through posing the questions and discussing them that we'd be motivated to do more and to be more effective. [18:47] <inetpro> superfly: we shall keep trying, thanks for raising it [18:48] <inetpro> shall we move on? [18:48] <pieter2627> Most probably started out of a simple passion... [18:48] <pieter2627> that we sometimes loose track of with time/life [18:48] <Kilos> oh my [18:49] <Kilos> hi qwebirc33039 qwebirc956 === qwebirc956 is now known as amanica [18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: more work for you there... you must keep the guys on track :-) [18:49] <Kilos> welcome to our monthly meeting , feel free to join in [18:49] <inetpro> anything else from last meeting? [18:49] <pieter2627> other than that we could propably move on [18:50] <Kilos> ai! [18:50] <pieter2627> s/propably/probably/ [18:50] <inetpro> Kilos: thanks for being the ever observant greeting bot [18:50] <Kilos> lol yw [18:50] <Cryterion> lol [18:50] <inetpro> moving on [18:50] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Plans for 2015 [18:50] <Maaz> Current Topic: Plans for 2015 [18:50] <inetpro> Maaz: topic - Ubuntu Code of Conduct [18:50] <Maaz> Current Topic: - Ubuntu Code of Conduct [18:51] <inetpro> anyone still truggling with the CoC? [18:51] <Cryterion> Signed :) [18:51] <Kilos> sjoe amanica you got connection probs hey [18:52] <amanica> YES :( [18:52] <Cryterion> There should maybe a section in the process to get the key sent to the keyserver, to make it easier for new members [18:53] <inetpro> nobody? [18:53] <inetpro> yay \o/ [18:53] * andrewlsd notes keybase.io as an easy way to find other's public keys [18:53] <inetpro> hmm... signal getting lost again here [18:54] <Cryterion> telkom lines have had problems today as well [18:54] <inetpro> Maaz: topic - Ubuntu Membership [18:54] <Maaz> Current Topic: - Ubuntu Membership [18:54] <inetpro> guys we really need more members to sign up... please [18:54] * Kilos waits for more applicants [18:54] <inetpro> Kilos: how are we going to achieve this? [18:54] <andrewlsd> inetpro: why? [18:55] <Kilos> with difficulty i think [18:55] <andrewlsd> as in, what is the purpose of membership. (not being snarky) [18:55] <Kilos> the more members you have the beter chance of getting free ubuntu fone [18:55] <Kilos> and there are other perks as well [18:55] <andrewlsd> Kilos: lol. [18:55] <inetpro> andrewlsd: to show others that you care... [18:55] <inetpro> oops... but even I have not signed up :-( [18:56] <Cryterion> don't think I did that yet, will do soon [18:56] <inetpro> Kilos: I will sign up, honestly I will... just need a bit of time [18:56] <andrewlsd> can I be a member of Ubuntu and Arch and {Insert distro community here}? [18:56] <Kilos> how big is this bit? [18:56] <inetpro> Kilos: one day [18:56] <Kilos> lol [18:57] <andrewlsd> inetpro: or is it exclusive. [18:57] <inetpro> andrewlsd: sure, why not [18:57] <andrewlsd> ty [18:57] <Kilos> you can be a member of everything if you have time [18:57] <inetpro> there's nothing preventing an official member of Ubuntu from taking part in other distros [18:58] <inetpro> andrewlsd: it's not like you're signing up for a new job [18:58] * andrewlsd doesn't see any Cape Town ubuntu members on the wiki page's map [18:58] <Kilos> the map will be updated next month [18:58] <inetpro> Kilos: thanks for taking that up [18:58] * andrewlsd likes the LWN subscription. [18:58] <Kilos> the maintainer cant do it anymore but we have someone else taking over [18:59] <Kilos> the new maintainer is actually here but afk atm [18:59] <inetpro> anyway... let's move on [19:00] <inetpro> I think the other sub-topics speak for themselves [19:00] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Events: past month? [19:00] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events: past month [19:00] <inetpro> anyone know of anything interesting that happened in the past month [19:01] <Kilos> ya [19:01] <andrewlsd> inetpro: the Installfest was supposed to be last Sunday 21 June. but was postponed at the last minute. [19:01] <pieter2627> and a few came thru on the mailing list [19:01] <Kilos> but it happened while load shedding so dunno what it was [19:01] <inetpro> sounds interesting [19:01] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Events: Khayelitsha Bandwidth Barn Installfest [19:01] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events: Khayelitsha Bandwidth Barn Installfest [19:02] <inetpro> andrewlsd: so when is it happening now? [19:02] <inetpro> and do you have a link? [19:02] <andrewlsd> A group of Cape Town Linux User Group folks have been discussing an opportunity... [19:03] <andrewlsd> which is in progress to install Ubuntu on the computers for the Khayelitsha branch of the Bandwidth Barn [19:03] <andrewlsd> there is a google-groups "group" [19:03] * andrewlsd goes to find the link [19:05] <inetpro> sounds like a very good initiative [19:05] <inetpro> Maaz: idea Install Ubuntu on the computers for the Khayelitsha branch of the Bandwidth Barn [19:05] <Maaz> Idea recorded: Install Ubuntu on the computers for the Khayelitsha branch of the Bandwidth Barn [19:05] <andrewlsd> The plan was for a bunch of volunteers to do the installations of several machines on Sun 21 Jun, however it became necessary to postpone it. At the moment customized system images for easy deployment with all required apps are being prepared [19:05] <amanica_> Maaz: I am Marius Kruger [19:05] <Maaz> amanica_: Sure [19:05] <andrewlsd> the link is: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/kifest [19:06] <inetpro> andrewlsd: thanks [19:06] <inetpro> andrewlsd: so it is open for anyone to subscribe to that? [19:06] <inetpro> obviously [19:06] <Kilos> lol [19:06] <andrewlsd> To be clear, I am not the organizer of the event, but it is definitely appropriate to record it with Ubuntu-za [19:07] <andrewlsd> yes, open to subscribe, afaik. [19:07] <inetpro> Maaz: accepted subscribe to google group mailing list https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/kifest [19:07] <Maaz> Accepted: subscribe to google group mailing list https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/kifest [19:08] <inetpro> next [19:08] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Events: To be arranged: Ubuntu Hour, Installfests or other events [19:08] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events: To be arranged: Ubuntu Hour, Installfests or other events [19:09] <andrewlsd> is there clarification about what comprises an "Ubuntu Hour"? [19:10] <inetpro> feel free to talk to us here on irc or on the mailing list if you would like to arrange any event such event [19:10] <inetpro> andrewlsd: superfly wrote something the other day [19:10] <inetpro> any such event* [19:11] <andrewlsd> ok, am asking because it was in the minutes from last meeting that superfly was going to get more info abou tit. [19:11] * inetpro still wanted to get others to write about it... forgot to follow up [19:11] <andrewlsd> s/abou\ tit/about\ it/ [19:12] <Kilos> sjoe [19:12] <andrewlsd> I have an idea: Keysigning Party [19:12] <Kilos> youll make me squint [19:12] <amanica_> as I understand an Ubuntu hour is a quick meetup of ubuntu enthusiasts at a coffee shop or something [19:12] <andrewlsd> ... of course, it would probably have to be parties, since it requires actuall, physically meeting. And SFD would probably be a good place to try it. [19:13] <Kilos> correct [19:13] <andrewlsd> thanks for the clarification amanica [19:13] <inetpro> andrewlsd: SFD is a separate event on it's own [19:13] <Kilos> one or 2 or more peeps get together and chat about, play on and promote ubuntu to any onlookers [19:14] <andrewlsd> yip inetpro. was thinking "out loud" about the Key-signing Party idea. [19:14] <inetpro> maybe as ubuntu-za we can take part and call it our Ubuntu Hour event :) [19:15] <inetpro> but ideally I guess we should try encourage people to do something small separately as mentioned above [19:15] <andrewlsd> ... where we sign each other's launchpad/ubuntu ID public keys. [19:15] <andrewlsd> yes inetpro other smaller events would not be the key-signing party. [19:15] <inetpro> let's talk more about it after the meeting or in coming days... keep it a hot topic [19:16] <andrewlsd> ok. so about Coffee and Ubuntu: Can I just do one, and send photos? or? [19:16] <inetpro> Maaz: agreed talk on irc and mailing list to get clarification about what comprises an "Ubuntu Hour" [19:16] <Maaz> Agreed: talk on irc and mailing list to get clarification about what comprises an "Ubuntu Hour" [19:16] <Kilos> you can [19:17] <andrewlsd> ty [19:17] <Kilos> pleie2 did it for months on her own [19:17] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Events: Upcoming: Software Freedom Day 2015 on Saturday, 19 September [19:17] <Maaz> Current Topic: Events: Upcoming: Software Freedom Day 2015 on Saturday, 19 September [19:18] * inetpro has been in contact with kmf and things have starte happening, though still a bit slow [19:18] <inetpro> started* [19:18] <Kilos> the idea it to maybe have a banner or something that can catch bypassers eyes so they come watch what you are doing and thereby you spread the word and interest [19:18] <Kilos> s/it/is [19:19] <andrewlsd> Kilos: I thought you sed that ;-) [19:19] <Kilos> :D [19:19] <inetpro> looks like people prefer the station so far but I don't think the venue is fixed just yet [19:20] <Kilos> andrewlsd you can get all the stuff to make banners etc , you just need to print them [19:20] <andrewlsd> haha fixed -> stationery. [19:20] <inetpro> andrewlsd: oops [19:20] <inetpro> anyway, we started the SFD page for Pretoria at http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2015/South%20Africa/Pretoria/SFD%20Pretoria [19:21] <inetpro> not much there yet but it's a start [19:21] <andrewlsd> maybe one day Cape Town area will have its own SFD. superfly [19:21] <inetpro> next topic? [19:22] <inetpro> Kilos: am I going too fast? [19:22] <Kilos> nope inetpro you doing fine [19:22] <andrewlsd> last year's SFD link just for documentation http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/2014/SouthAfrica/Pretoria/SFD [19:23] <superfly> andrewlsd: *stationary = not moving, stationery = pens, pencils, etc. [19:23] * andrewlsd is ready for next topic, thanks [19:23] <andrewlsd> superfly: yeah, how to remember that? [19:23] <superfly> pEn pEncil stationEry [19:24] <Kilos> nary a movement [19:24] <pieter2627> andrewlsd: e for email as in post [19:24] <andrewlsd> st_a_tion_e_ry P_a_p_e_r [19:24] <andrewlsd> a followed by e. [19:24] <andrewlsd> so, let's not be stationary, let's move along..... ;-) [19:24] <pieter2627> a for automobile [19:24] <Kilos> lol [19:25] <Kilos> doesant nary mean not [19:25] <Kilos> doesnt [19:25] <Kilos> Maaz define nary [19:25] <Maaz> Kilos: nary adj 1: (used with singular count nouns) colloquial for `not a' or `not one' or `never a'; "heard nary a sound" [19:25] <andrewlsd> it does mean not [19:25] <andrewlsd> Kilos: ooh. expert of Maaz. [19:25] <Kilos> so stationary is not a movemen [19:25] <andrewlsd> ;-) [19:26] <inetpro> andrewlsd: thanks [19:26] <inetpro> we still need more ideas and volunteers to help as much as possible [19:26] <inetpro> Maaz: topic ubuntu-in-the-wild (pieter2627) [19:26] <inetpro> pieter2627: the floor is all yours [19:26] <Maaz> Current Topic: ubuntu-in-the-wild (pieter2627) [19:26] <andrewlsd> lol. movemen (men that move) as opposed to snowmen, that usually don't move [19:26] <Kilos> sorry sticky t [19:26] <pieter2627> just wanted to know if it is still on the cards [19:27] <inetpro> pieter2627: we still have time for you :-) [19:27] <andrewlsd> Ubuntu appears frequently on the computers used by NYPD in the series "Forever" [19:27] <andrewlsd> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3487382/ [19:27] <Kilos> Maaz google ubuntu-in-the-wild [19:27] <Maaz> Kilos: "Latest 'Ubuntu in the Wild' - OMG! Ubuntu!" http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/ubuntu-in-the-wild-now-ubuntu-is-the-norm :: "Ubuntu in The Wild: Huffington Post - OMG! Ubuntu!" http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/04/ubuntu-in-the-wild-huffington-post :: "[Ubuntu In The Wild] Unity In Use By Norwegian Military - OMG ..." http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/03 [19:27] <Maaz> /ubuntu-in-the-wild-unity-in-use-by-norwegian-military :: "Ubuntu Powered Promo Booth? You Bet [… [19:28] <Kilos> sjoe [19:28] <inetpro> pieter2627: nice! [19:29] <pieter2627> ?? [19:30] <inetpro> oh, that was andrewlsd? [19:31] <inetpro> pieter2627: we still waiting for you or was this andrewlsd's point of discussion? [19:31] * inetpro clearly got mixed up [19:31] <pieter2627> I can start to maintain a list if we are still going to add the section to the site [19:32] <inetpro> sounds like a fun idea? [19:32] <pieter2627> No planning has started on it yet, which is why I raised the issue [19:33] <inetpro> Maaz: idea keep a list of Ubuntu in the Wild to share with others [19:33] <Maaz> Idea recorded: keep a list of Ubuntu in the Wild to share with others [19:33] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [19:33] <Maaz> Current Topic: Miscellaneous [19:33] <andrewlsd> I saw that Danie noted that Protea Hotels are using Linux Mint, which is ~almost~ Ubuntu [19:33] <Kilos> pieter2627 get some ideas together and mail our list with the proposal [19:33] <Kilos> im sure others will add more ideas [19:34] <superfly> pieter2627: nikola supports galleries, as easy as dropping files into a folder. let's use that [19:34] <andrewlsd> suggestion wiki page: that pieter2627 can then use as the basis for a proper page [19:35] <amanica> pieter2627 you can probably add it to the web page https://ubuntu-za.org/getting-involved.html https://ubuntu-za.org/bazaar-tutorial.html [19:35] <andrewlsd> .. or even trello ? [19:35] <pieter2627> superfly: with captions maybe [19:36] <magespawn> andrewlsd: that is interesting, because they have recently been bought my marroits international [19:37] <inetpro> Maaz: agreed create a wiki page or use tello as the basis for a proper page for Ubuntu in the Wild [19:37] <Maaz> Agreed: create a wiki page or use tello as the basis for a proper page for Ubuntu in the Wild [19:37] <magespawn> but the protea hotels are not all owned by the same company, protea is also a managment company [19:37] <inetpro> time to close the meeting [19:37] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:37] <Maaz> Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:37] * Kilos votes inetpro [19:38] <inetpro> Kilos: this was all done via GPRS... lights are still out... guess it can be done [19:38] <inetpro> anyone else want to try the hot seat? [19:38] <Kilos> yeah well done [19:39] <Kilos> Maaz inetpro ++ [19:39] * andrewlsd also votes inetpro [19:39] <Kilos> come man do the agreed [19:40] * inetpro won't be upset if anyone else does it :-) [19:40] <amanica> yeah +! [19:40] * andrewlsd agreed [19:40] <amanica> +! [19:40] <amanica> +1 [19:40] <inetpro> Maaz: accepted inetpro to chair the next meeting [19:40] <Maaz> Accepted: inetpro to chair the next meeting [19:40] <inetpro> thanks guys [19:40] <inetpro> Maaz: topic Next meeting: 28 July 2015 [19:40] <Maaz> Current Topic: Next meeting: 28 July 2015 [19:40] <Kilos> thatnk you inetpro everything went nice and smooth [19:40] <Kilos> thank [19:40] <andrewlsd> Cool, g'nite all. [19:40] <inetpro> just a bit over the time limts [19:40] <amanica> bye [19:40] <Kilos> night andrewlsd [19:40] <inetpro> thaks everyone [19:40] <Kilos> night amanica [19:41] <inetpro> Maaz: end meeting [19:41] <Maaz> Meeting Ended [19:41] <Maaz> Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-06-23-18-33-15.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-06-23-18-33-15.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-06-23-18-33-15.html [19:41] <Kilos> ty for attending [19:41] <Kilos> oh [19:41] <andrewlsd> ty all. [19:41] <inetpro> ai!... thanks* [19:41] <pieter2627> lol [19:41] <andrewlsd> whoa. Kilos how are you changing from green to red in my display? [19:41] <Kilos> we forgot to give them cake [19:41] <Kilos> magic [19:41] <andrewlsd> Maaz: cake please [19:41] <Maaz> andrewlsd: Huh? [19:41] <inetpro> Kilos? [19:42] <Kilos> Maaz and cake [19:42] <Maaz> Here is a large cake for the birthday boy. [19:42] * Kilos shares the cake [19:42] * pieter2627 leaves before he gets stuffed :p [19:42] <Kilos> lol [19:42] <inetpro> oh my goodness! We forgot? [19:42] <inetpro> Kilos: your birthday today? [19:42] <pieter2627> night all, and enjoy the rest of the day oom Kilos [19:43] <Kilos> ty pieter2627 [19:43] <Kilos> sleep tight [19:43] <andrewlsd> cheerio all. [19:43] <pieter2627> s/day/birthday/ [19:43] <Kilos> ya inetpro another one [19:43] * andrewlsd goes to climb into his warm bed, coz it's pouring with rain in the Cape [19:43] <andrewlsd> Hey Kilos, it's yo birthday, we gonna party like it's yo birthday [19:43] <inetpro> Kilos: congratulations sir! [19:44] <Kilos> tyty 64 and 20 to go [19:45] * inetpro suddenly has lights [19:45] <andrewlsd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nONOuNEhhE (just the first 30 seconds) [19:45] <Kilos> last few ubuntu years have been lekker [19:45] <magespawn> congrats Kilos [19:45] <Kilos> ty magespawn [19:46] <andrewlsd> RLMAO: just found that video remixed with Thomas the Tank engine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6dpVZwVwD8 [19:46] <amanica> yeah happy birthday. thanks andrewlsd yo yo yo [19:46] <magespawn> what i meant about protea earlier on is that the software is unlikely to standard across all protea hotels [19:46] <andrewlsd> magespawn: you're probably right. [19:47] <amanica> lol [19:48] <magespawn> when i did support for the hluhluwe protea they were firmly in ms territory [19:48] <andrewlsd> Kilos: A special message for you: http://goo.gl/pTje5K [19:49] <Kilos> aw ty andrewlsd [19:50] <Kilos> there you go inetpro , didnt you enjoy that? [19:50] <Kilos> the chair i mean === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [19:52] <andrewlsd> nite all. [19:52] <Kilos> night andrewlsd [19:52] <Kilos> sleep warm [19:52] <andrewlsd> Kilos: if I measure you would that be called a Kilometer? [19:52] <inetpro> Kilos: ? [19:53] <andrewlsd> lekker slaap [19:53] <Kilos> yessir [19:53] <inetpro> good night andrewlsd [19:53] <inetpro> thanks for joining [19:53] <andrewlsd> ciao inetpro magespawn amanica pieter(he's gone) [19:53] <andrewlsd> and Cryterion`hiding [19:53] <Kilos> lol [19:53] <inetpro> :-) [19:58] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight [19:58] <Kilos> ty inetpro [19:59] <magespawn> bedtime for me too, good night all [19:59] <inetpro> you're welcome Kilos [19:59] * inetpro just preparing the minutes [19:59] <Kilos> ah [19:59] <inetpro> good night magespawn [20:02] <Vince-0> G*night [20:07] <inetpro> done... === smile is now known as smile|night === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-za to: Ubuntu South Africa https://ubuntu-za.org | pastebin: http://bin.snyman.info | picpaste: http://pasteboard.co | Logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Next Meeting: Tue, 28 July 20:30, Agenda: http://bit.ly/1BKJavq [20:45] <gremble> o/ [20:46] <inetpro> wb gremble [20:46] <inetpro> you missed another meeting [20:48] <inetpro> Maaz: tell Kilos Just for interest sake: My GPRS connection from before the meeting until after used a whopping 8MB of data [20:48] <Maaz> inetpro: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [21:13] <smile|night> Slaapwel :) === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding

[03:46] maaz tell kilos happy b-day uncle kilos [03:46] nlsthzn: Righto, I'll tell Kilos on freenode [04:30] maaz tell superfly Thanx [04:30] mazal: Righto, I'll tell superfly on freenode [06:08] morning all. ty nlsthzn [06:11] morning pieter2627 inetpro and others [06:13] morning Kilos, all and others :p [06:24] sjoe ! winter in afrika [06:25] . [06:25] superfly: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell superfly Thanx" 1 hour, 55 minutes and 7 seconds ago [06:25] mazal: you're welcome [06:25] morning Kilos, pieter2627 [06:25] morning superfly [06:25] happy birthday, oom! [06:26] Hi superfly [06:26] ty very much superfly [06:27] wow, congrats on another age of wisdom oom Kilos [06:28] superfly: before the meeting tonight. Will ubuntu-in-the-wild page still be created (or maybe discussed tonight)? [06:28] lol ty [06:30] Kilos: it is a saying that my youth group created for bdays some time ago [06:32] its a good saying pieter2627 [06:33] but i dont seem to get wiser, just colder [06:33] haha [06:39] mornings [06:41] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:42] Morning [06:47] good mornings [06:48] hi inetpro [06:49] who can comment on axxess mobile [06:49] they have 2g for R98 [06:50] MTN network, so judge based on your MTN signal more than anything else [06:50] I use it [06:50] second sim in my phone [06:50] yes but is that contract only ThatGraemeGuy [06:50] https://www.axxess.co.za/mobile-data [06:51] used to get EDGE on a good day at home, but I see MTN have thrown some upgrades our way and I now get HSDPA+ most of the time [06:51] i dont see contract or prepaid [06:51] it's not contract, it's month-to-month [06:51] great [06:51] ty [06:53] https://www.mtn.co.za/pages/coverage-map.aspx [06:53] ty [07:04] Morning everyone [07:05] * mazal takes a break and a coke === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [07:19] ai! how do you convert modern gps co-ords to the old way === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion [07:20] https://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/degrees-minutes-seconds-tofrom-decimal-degrees [07:20] hopefully [07:24] grrr [07:24] that sucks NaN° NaN' NaN" [07:33] okydokey , up to date for now === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [08:06] good morning all [08:07] morning magespawn [08:13] hi magespawn hows you? === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion [08:37] hey mazal, Kilos, good and you? [08:42] Good thanx [08:42] good ty [08:43] trying to work my through facebook posts whew [08:43] hi MaNI [08:44] and your clone MaNL [08:44] morning [08:59] Kilos: busy doing a release upgrade on one laptop, checking my asterisk on this machine and installing vnc on the win laptop [09:00] release upgrade to? [09:00] mostly automated once you have started everything [09:00] 15.04 [09:00] sounds like i am busy hey? [09:00] yeah [09:00] lol [09:01] oh ja, the vnc is to access another machine so that i can run its updates too [09:02] now i can watch all that and tidy up the office a bit [09:02] sjoe === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [09:12] Oom Kilosdoing facebook ? No wonder it is so cold :) [09:12] i just went to thank peeps [09:13] now no more for months [09:14] i see superfly is becoming quite a chef [09:14] Slow down , I'm already hungry enough [09:15] lol [09:15] maaz what's for lunch ? [09:15] mazal: I prefer St Elmo's... but Scooters' deep pan pizza is also very yummy [09:15] also saw all americans will be micro chiiped within 3 years [09:15] End times is near [09:15] It must happen [09:15] yip [09:16] maaz order a pizza for us [09:16] mazal: Sorry... [09:17] maaz you lazy bot [09:17] mazal: Excuse me? [09:17] * mazal thinks it's time for coffee [09:17] Only had 1 yet and that is a low for this time of year :P [09:40] MaNL have you found dc connectors yet? [09:40] no I gave up [09:40] lemme mail you [09:41] I'm going to hack a DIY connector and then import from overseas [09:41] well unless you have a good link :P [09:41] I tried like 20 places and nobody had [09:41] i just got a thing from my supplier with all connectors in [09:41] pm me your email addy [09:45] www.instructables.com/id/Barrel-Jack-Hack/ thats my current plan :p [09:46] hehe [09:47] look at that link in that image in that mail [09:47] will do thanks [09:48] first pic dc connector for R3 [09:50] not sure if something went wrong with email, no image :p [09:52] oh my [09:55] oh wait i got the image [09:56] http://pasteboard.co/1qXZMS87.jpg [09:58] MaNL you see that? [09:59] yeah [10:00] is that first one what you are looking for? [10:01] yes, except at a specific size [10:01] no size there so can only guess [10:02] lemme look more [10:02] the ones available here seem to stop at about 5.5 diameter [10:02] I need a 6.5 and a 7.4 === MaNL is now known as MaNI [10:03] oh my [10:03] 6.5 outside dimeter [10:04] should have been more careful and done my homework on that first, I somewhat naively assumed that sort of component was easy to get here [10:04] communica sell 6.5, but they are out of stock and have no idea when they will order again [10:04] you can get that size from chargers [10:04] nobody seems to have the 7.4 except if I buy it attached to an existing charger [10:05] collect everyones scrap chargers [10:05] hehe [10:05] yeah could do [10:05] i have a 6.5 that came with the charger for a switch [10:05] or I'll just order it in from china and do a temporary hack while I wait [10:06] should take about a month for it to arrive [10:06] whew [10:06] it must be nice being able to source parts as easily as they can that side [10:07] yeah [10:07] check what sixe laptop chargers use [10:08] the 7.4 is same size as a hp/compaq [10:08] but all the laptop repair places are ignoring me :p [10:08] someone must have a blown charger [10:09] I could trawl the local dump I guess [10:10] even then though it means a spliced cable which isn't ideal, better to just get a proper solder on connector [10:11] na man you just solder the wires together with shrink sleave over [10:11] even with strip connectors [10:11] yeah, can neaten it up but still :p [10:12] I'm actually quite keen to try the hack now anyway [10:13] lol [10:13] id be going bonkers with a new toy a cant use while i wait for parts [10:14] hehe yeah its tough [10:14] I've got some solar panels sitting in my lounge as of yesterday, and I can't hook them up yet because I still need some other things, getting load shedded with panels sitting in my lounge is going to drive me crazy [10:15] ai! [10:28] oh MaNI check as well you could but a kinda adapter that had 3 or 4 different size connectors on them [10:28] s/but/buy [10:30] MaNI: have you tried electronics123 (if you are in pretoria) [10:35] I did [10:35] ouch [10:35] I'm in the cape but I've tried all over the show :p [10:36] it seems we just don't like big plugs here [10:40] hehe i would have opened the thing by now and connected my wires directly inside [10:41] it actually is open so I could do that temporarily as well [10:41] just need to figure out the polarity [10:41] well you have a weller so use it [10:42] back is covered so can't see which point on top of the circuit board is pos and which is neg [10:42] well the inside of the plug is normally the + [10:43] yeah but I can't trace that to top of board :p [10:43] I can just plug my HP charger into it and trace it like that [10:43] did you get a circuit diamgram with it [10:43] nope no circuit diagram [10:43] ai! [10:44] it's obvious where the power comes in though, so I just need to measure to be sure [10:44] do you guys down there have chinese electronics shops [10:44] they keep weird and wonderful things [10:44] yeah but they are mostly in CT itself [10:45] ah [10:45] next time I'm out there maybe [10:45] not much happens in Gordons Bay :p [10:45] haha i was there once [10:45] stayed in the hotel === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion [10:46] had a long days footups in steelies then went from the hotel to beach and froxe before i was knee deep in the water [10:46] my main focus now is figuring out how I'm going to attach these panels to the roof in a way that they stay put :p [10:47] the panels are a lot more intimidating now that I have them [10:47] press stick for test purposes [10:48] what do the manufacturers supply [10:48] z shaped clamps? [10:53] the panel people don't supply anything, panels just have an aluminum frame with 6 spots to mount onto something. There are a bunch of 'official systems' involved clamps and rails and stuff but the pricing is absurd [10:54] there seems to be some sort of, standard clamp R20, solar clamp R500 policy going on :p [11:01] sjoe [11:02] so I'll probably just bolt it straight onto a frame of some kind instead [11:02] planks tied to roofing nails then wire holding panel to planks [11:03] nothing is ever as easy as one thinks [11:03] something like that, though I'm considering aluminum tubing rather [11:04] ya thats better but more costly [11:11] don't want to spend a lot but don't want the panels to fly away either :P [11:15] another problem with all the 'off the shelf' solutions for mounting is that they all have these badly scanned very vague drawings so it isn't even clear how they are meant to work === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [11:41] lol === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion [12:02] ThatGraemeGuy where does one buy axxess sims? [12:02] i see they say free sim delivery but then i have to be able to pay online and i cant [12:07] you can only buy it from their site === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [12:19] l8tr everyone [12:19] Have a nice afternoon [12:23] ty [12:33] aluminum is actually possibly cheaper than timber, structural timber pricey these days :p [12:33] yay [12:34] okay maybe not cheaper but competitive [12:34] its better anyway because it lasts [12:35] timber does too I guess, but only if you nanny it :p [12:35] yeah [12:35] also the coastal air is not kind to external timber [12:35] correct [12:36] every single one of my tools is rusted :/ [12:36] yip, even here in ptown, but here its from pollution and acid rain [12:36] heh [12:36] spanners that didnt rust in durbs rust here [12:38] impressive [12:39] 3, 2, 1! [12:39] hi nuvolari [12:39] still adjusting to it, in JHB things used to be decades old and still good :p [12:39] meeting tonight [12:40] yeah i grew up in ptown and nothing rusted [12:40] * nuvolari sings: Happy Birthday tooo you, Happy Birthday tooooo yoooouuu, Happy Biiiirthdaaaay oom Kiiiiloooos, Haaappyy Birthdaaay, toooo yoooouuu! :D [12:40] came back after 40 years and its worse than durbs [12:40] lol dankie nuvolari [12:40] oom moet 'n lekker dag hê! [12:40] wel, ek hoop die begin van oom se dag was lekker! [12:40] dankie baie [12:41] net koud maar kde werk hele tyd [12:41] vra maar min vir hulp deesdae [12:43] :D [13:25] Hi Kilos . Happy Birthday [13:25] hi andrewlsd ty very much [13:25] meeing tonight hey [13:25] i saw that, yip [13:31] hi dlPhreak [13:32] welcome to ubuntu-za [13:32] am reading the IRC logs to see what's scheduled for tonight at: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/23/%23ubuntu-za.txt [13:32] btw, regarding "ubuntu-in-the-wild" I saw Ubuntu in the TV series "forever" [13:33] oh isnt it in the agenda andrewlsd [13:33] i havent looked at the agenda inna long time [13:33] where is the agenda Kilos [13:33] in the topic bar [13:34] http://bit.ly/1Gjg7kb === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [13:52] @Kilos: can I add item: update on Khayelitsha Bandwidth Barn Installfest [13:52] yes [13:52] dont ask, just do and if it isnt relevant the pro can moan tonigh [13:53] t [13:53] hehe [13:57] in events i think andrewlsd [13:58] lol [13:58] ty === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion === MaNL is now known as MaNI [14:07] home time, meeting tonight, later all [14:07] later magespawn [14:07] hi Cantide [14:08] hey Kilos :D [14:08] did you have a good birthday? ^^ [14:09] yeah lekker ty [14:09] :D [14:09] spent lots of time in the sun [14:09] haha [14:09] nice :D [14:09] :D [14:09] are you solar powered? :D [14:10] well, i dunno but seems like my heating system is [14:10] hehe [14:10] :p [14:10] i got these stupid thermal underwear things but i think they are meant to keep you cool in summer not warm in winter [14:23] weird :D [14:24] i thought they were simply to keep you warm in winter [14:24] to keep cool in summer, take them off :p [14:27] lol [14:27] i find 2 tracksuits warmer than thermals with same 2 tracksuits over [14:27] Kilos: where is "ptown" [14:28] pretoria [14:28] oe. [14:28] lol [14:28] oh! [14:29] i got a new coworker here [14:29] a lady... from... ladysmith :D [14:29] cool i worked there too [14:29] nou kan ek afrikaans praat by my werk :D [14:29] in Korea nogal :D [14:29] se sy moet hier kom kuier [14:29] oh wow [14:33] :p [14:34] well lucky you [14:34] we have a lot of fun [14:34] seeing as no one else can understand us [14:34] so far from home as well [14:34] yeah [14:34] haha [14:34] pretty coincidental [14:34] very [14:35] Cantide: nice name "sudo wrestler" [14:35] :D [14:36] thanks '-';;; [14:36] haha [14:36] what time are you in, ie: GMT + what. [14:37] +9 [14:37] oh ya andrewlsd you were on your long missing period when he was still in durbs i think [14:37] oh [14:38] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7ELp44NOc this is where i am now... that was monday night cycling :p [14:38] so it's 1am for Cantide [14:38] it's 23:38 here now [14:38] I like your other MTB vides. [14:38] ya but he has an easy life, just teaches koreans to speak english [14:39] :p [14:39] meh, sorry Cantide , it wasn't _yours_, you liked it. [14:39] which MTB videos? [14:39] aha [14:39] I did do MTB in SA though [14:39] didn't make vids then though :'( what a waste [14:40] I haven't ridden much this winter. [14:40] I have turned into a fair-weather rider. [14:40] #fail! [14:40] I realized I just tried to add 9 hours onto SA time, instead of +9 -2 [14:43] yup [14:43] winter here is a bit tooooo cold [14:43] haha old age [14:43] when it hits below minus 5 i'm not going out :p [14:43] but i have cycled in the snow a few times [14:43] i think winter is only lekker in the tropics [14:43] lol [14:44] SA winter is awesome [14:44] Cantide: you a Seol Brother? [14:44] Seoul, yip [14:44] #meh. typo. kinda makes it less awesome :-( [14:44] :S [14:44] 서울 [14:44] there ya go [14:44] so, are you there for some Seoul searching? [14:44] haha [14:45] perhaps [14:45] maybe just some Seoul food [14:45] As long as you are not an Our-Se.... [14:45] that's my Seoul purpose actually [14:45] hahahaha [14:46] Seoul-long, and thanks for all the fish. [14:48] Korea opportunities. [14:48] * andrewlsd stops [15:06] haha [15:06] i saw this a bit late .-. [15:48] afternoon all, or should I say evening... [15:48] evening [15:48] Evening Cryterion [15:51] has anybody noticed that on the net after reading any news article or blog about anything South Africa the comments below the article seem to always evolve into racism and the race blame game... SAD I must say [15:52] yep [15:52] yes, though to be fair if you read the average overseas things its not much better [15:53] youtube comments is enough to reduce a person to tears :p [15:53] *are [15:53] i don't even bother reading the comments anymore [15:55] probably better that way [15:55] yeah, oh well, it explains why the world is almost not moving "forward" [15:55] hehe [15:56] I tried explaining to somebody once why open source is better the were adamant MS is best and have good things to come [15:56] LOL [15:56] hi Private_User [15:56] ww3 is imminent now anyway [15:56] hi Kilos [16:00] some people are just stuck in the way of thinking they were thought and will always see the world through the eyes of the person who thought them to think that way without actually see what is actually in front of them [16:00] welcome back spinza [16:01] have you dried off? [16:01] lol [16:02] (6:07:46 PM) spinza left the room (quit: Excess Flood). [16:02] lol [16:02] get that sometimes not sure why [16:05] whats new Kilos [16:05] nothing much lad [16:06] chatting to boet in dubai on pidgin atm [16:06] cool [16:10] and konversation is going nuts with ubuntu dev meetinggs [16:11] #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou) [16:11] that kinda stuff [16:16] wb Cryterion [16:23] inetpro you got no power again? [17:30] good evening [17:30] hi inetpro [17:30] Kilos: loadshedding here is only happening at 20:00 [17:30] eish [17:30] and area 10? [17:38] Kilos: ai! [17:38] ai! what? [17:39] we not going off oday [17:39] why ask the same thing every time? [17:39] take a screenshot of the schedule and save it on your desktop [17:39] so that you dont forget to check for me as well [17:40] someone has to keep you on your toes [17:41] * inetpro is tired [17:41] been yet another busy day [17:41] sorry oom [17:42] aw sorry for aggraving you sir [17:42] forgot how to spell that [17:43] aggravate [17:43] aggrevate [17:43] am on GPRS now to get see whether I can stay connected with this stupid Vodacom [17:43] did you try your daughters mtn [17:43] Kilos: not yet... not airtime [17:43] gprs can only do irc and pidgin, [17:44] no* [17:44] i am tempted to try axxess [17:44] no man, gprs can do most everything, just slow === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [17:45] lag is good [17:45] at 0.4s this should be workable for the meeting [17:48] hmm... am I talking to myself? [17:49] no [17:49] again!? [17:49] oh [17:49] :-) [17:49] but i didnt think that remark required an answer [17:49] lol [17:49] hehe im feeling naughty [17:49] Kilos: what did I miss today? [17:50] um [17:50] not much serious stuff [17:51] but cantide has an afrikaans girl with him now in korea [17:51]