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| murthy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1468192 | 05:46 |
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| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1468192 in muon (Ubuntu) "Muon does not show the change log for any package instead displays this text "The list of changes is not yet available. Please use instead."" [Undecided,New] | 05:46 |
| === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward | ||
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:05 |
| soee | hiho lordievader | 08:05 |
| lordievader | Hey soee, how are you doing? | 08:06 |
| soee | lordievader: cool, thanks ;) you ? | 08:10 |
| lordievader | Doing good here :) | 08:10 |
| soee | if anyone plan to watch Jurassic World please don't :) | 08:11 |
| soee | waste of time and money -.- | 08:11 |
| mgraesslin | soee: thanks | 08:48 |
| soee | now i wonder if Terminator Genesis would similar crap ;) | 08:54 |
| lordievader | That still has the Govinator in it ;) | 08:55 |
| * Riddell reads http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ | 09:57 | |
| Riddell | wow now I know the geographical location of my network card | 09:58 |
| lordievader | Is (K)Ubuntu finally getting that? | 09:59 |
| Riddell | wily seems to have it now | 10:00 |
| lordievader | Ah, cool :D | 10:00 |
| Riddell | that brilliantly systemd, it's a competant solution that makes things much more complex and kills off some basic assumptions for what is I guess an important problem in some cases but not many | 10:05 |
| clivejo | how does it know that Riddell? | 10:07 |
| Riddell | clivejo: the geographical location? with a map and compas and some qualified cub scouts I assume | 10:08 |
| clivejo | LOL | 10:08 |
| lordievader | And he maps it before there is a network connection :P | 10:09 |
| Riddell | systemd should be renamed Akela | 10:10 |
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| Riddell | https://www.flickr.com/photos/zentyal/18438810273/in/album-72157652591863934/ caption competition! | 10:22 |
| Riddell | clivejo: yay your kamoso package works on my mostly clean wily install | 10:31 |
| Riddell | so I'll copy it to beta PPA and put it into a git archive | 10:31 |
| clivejo | any other testers? | 10:31 |
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| clivejo | Riddell: got 595 missing files in calligra! | 10:42 |
| Riddell | clivejo: uh oh! | 10:42 |
| Riddell | clivejo: I think almost all will be developer files we deliberately don't package | 10:42 |
| Riddell | clivejo: if you can copy them into paste.kde.org and I'll take a look | 10:43 |
| clivejo | .h files? | 10:43 |
| clivejo | headers? | 10:43 |
| Riddell | right, we don't want those cos nothing builds against calligra | 10:43 |
| Riddell | there should be a debian/not-installed to list them | 10:43 |
| clivejo | ah, that will knock off a lot | 10:43 |
| Riddell | also /usr/lib/foo.so files which are dev only but you have to watch for plugins which are /usr/lib/kde4/foo.so files that we do want | 10:44 |
| clivejo | so usr/include/calligra/*.h ? | 10:45 |
| clivejo | dont need them | 10:45 |
| Riddell | clivejo: right | 10:51 |
| Riddell | clivejo: you started with the version in the wily archive right? | 10:51 |
| clivejo | hummm, I copied all the missing files to kate, then tried to copy 486 lines back into not-installed and it crashed konsole :/ | 10:51 |
| clivejo | more hung it | 10:52 |
| clivejo | http://www.picpaste.com/pics/Konsole-hUVzK2wC.1435143189.jpg | 10:53 |
| Riddell | clivejo: why are you trying to edit not-installed yet? just check the output of dh_install --list-missing for files not in not-installed | 10:56 |
| clivejo | I have | 10:56 |
| clivejo | there are 595 missing files | 10:57 |
| clivejo | 486 are .h files | 10:57 |
| clivejo | which I was adding to not-installed | 10:58 |
| clivejo | there are 62 usr/lib/*.so files that look important | 11:00 |
| Riddell | clivejo: usr/lib/*.so aren't important | 11:03 |
| clivejo | so add them to not-installed too? | 11:03 |
| clivejo | ok down to 48 | 11:05 |
| clivejo | Ill pastebin these | 11:05 |
| clivejo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/11767150/ | 11:05 |
| clivejo | those calligraactive ones go in calligraactive.install? | 11:06 |
| Riddell | clivejo: don't you have an existing not-installed file? | 11:07 |
| clivejo | yes | 11:07 |
| Riddell | clivejo: calligraactive is dead, except upstream haven't listened to themselves so they still install bits, but we don't package it so you can ignore them too | 11:07 |
| Riddell | those 4 /usr/bin at the start are testing and will be in not-installed | 11:08 |
| Riddell | and krita gemini and sketch is dead too as I remember, replaced by calligra gemini | 11:09 |
| Riddell | but checkout in #calligra if unsure | 11:09 |
| Riddell | so aye they're all good for not-installed | 11:09 |
| clivejo | Ill put the active files into the active package, just to keep it right | 11:11 |
| clivejo | there is a package defined calligraactive.install | 11:11 |
| Riddell | clivejo: calligraactive.install is still around but it's not listed in debian/control so the result will be just the same (nothing happens with them) | 11:11 |
| Riddell | probably neater to get rid of calligraactive.install | 11:12 |
| Riddell | clivejo: kamoso in git and in beta PPA, when apol appear we can ask him if he wants it in the archive or just in a PPA | 11:12 |
| clivejo | ok Ill do that | 11:12 |
| clivejo | remove it and put the entries in not-installed | 11:13 |
| Riddell | groovy | 11:13 |
| clivejo | should it be ./usr or usr? | 11:14 |
| Riddell | good news is calligra is about the biggest packages get so if you can handle it you can handle a lot :) | 11:14 |
| Riddell | not-installed should be ./usr I think | 11:14 |
| Riddell | that's what our kubuntu-automation scripts expect when checking it | 11:14 |
| Riddell | for some reason | 11:14 |
| clivejo | ah | 11:15 |
| clivejo | dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: can't extract name and version from library name 'libkdeinit4_karbon.so' | 11:18 |
| clivejo | anything important? | 11:19 |
| Riddell | clivejo: that's fine to ignore, those libkdeinit libs are just subs to load the application as a library rather than a whole new process which speeds up load a bit | 11:19 |
| Riddell | so they're not real libraries and the magic shlibs which finds the libraries an app wants gets confused | 11:20 |
| clivejo | oh a problem : dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library liblibglobal.so.14 needed by debian/kexi-xbase-driver/usr/lib/kde4/kritadefaultdockers.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '') | 11:20 |
| Riddell | hmm | 11:21 |
| clivejo | 10 errors like that so far | 11:22 |
| Riddell | hi prth, how's summer of code going? | 11:22 |
| prth | hi Riddell, great :) | 11:23 |
| Riddell | clivejo: hang on, kexi package installing krita plugin looks wrong | 11:24 |
| Riddell | (oh make sure kritalutdocker.so and krita_lutdocker.desktop are in not-installed, they're installed specially in debian/rules) | 11:26 |
| Riddell | clivejo: what's in kexi-xbase-driver.install ? | 11:26 |
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| santa_ | clivejo: may I suggest you a couple of things for kamoso? | 12:43 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:47 |
| clivejo | kexi-xbase-driver.install: usr/lib/kde4/*.so | 13:20 |
| clivejo | usr/share/kde4/services/calligra/*.desktop | 13:20 |
| clivejo | sure santa_, I was away from keyboard, looking for a 3/4inch thread die! | 13:22 |
| clivejo | just go easy, Im new to this all | 13:22 |
| santa_ | ok | 13:22 |
| santa_ | 1. fix the watch file | 13:22 |
| santa_ | 2. set the package version as 3.0.0~alpha | 13:23 |
| clivejo | how do I do that? | 13:23 |
| santa_ | clivejo: man uscan + inspect the watch file of krecipes as a source of inspiration | 13:24 |
| santa_ | after that uscan and uscan --force-download should work properly ;) | 13:25 |
| santa_ | try to figure it out on your own, but if you can't just ask me later | 13:25 |
| Riddell | santa_: I merged in some changes to kamoso into the debian git archive | 13:26 |
| clivejo | do I fix it to be unstable? | 13:27 |
| Riddell | including a change to the watch file | 13:27 |
| clivejo | http://download.kde.org/unstable/kamoso/kamoso-3.0-alpha.tar.xz ? | 13:27 |
| Riddell | clivejo: ooh did you do that to debian/kexi-xbase-driver.install ? that should be reverted | 13:27 |
| clivejo | Riddell: no, I didnt touch that | 13:28 |
| santa_ | clivejo: you can have both stable and unstable, see the watch file of oher packages | 13:28 |
| Riddell | clivejo: should be like this https://paste.kde.org/pexttfozw | 13:28 |
| santa_ | I don't remember a concrete one | 13:28 |
| clivejo | Riddell: where did you get that from? or you make it yourself from the README? | 13:29 |
| Riddell | clivejo: I got it from the existing package in the archive I got with apt-get source calligra | 13:31 |
| clivejo | hummmm, thats the one I took :/ | 13:32 |
| clivejo | there was two | 13:32 |
| Riddell | it's also in bzr here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/calligra/files/head:/debian/ | 13:32 |
| Riddell | bzr on launchpad is the older place we keep our packaging in revision control, most of it has moved to debian git pkg-kde team now | 13:33 |
| clivejo | I still dont understand bzr | 13:33 |
| Riddell | clivejo: you don't have to as we're moving to git, do you understand git? | 13:36 |
| Mamarok | git is easy to learn, you only ever will use 10 commands or so for everyday use | 13:36 |
| Mamarok | I guess I never used more than 6 | 13:36 |
| Mamarok | and there have been a lot of blog posts about git on planetkde in the last few years | 13:37 |
| clivejo | I know a little bit, but still lot more powerful than I know | 13:37 |
| Riddell | git is more powerful than anyone can know | 13:38 |
| Riddell | it's why I was reluctant to learn it for a long time | 13:38 |
| Mamarok | well, you don't have to learn all of git, I guess that not even Linus knows on the top of his head | 13:39 |
| Mamarok | just because there are a bazillion of options dosen't mean you need all of them, or are you reluctant to use ls on a command line because there are like 50 options to it? | 13:39 |
| clivejo | but surely if I can push and pull code thats all I need to know :P | 13:39 |
| Mamarok | clivejo: you need clone, push, pull, rebase, status, and a few more, that's pretty much all you will ever need | 13:40 |
| Mamarok | and have your initial settings right, the techbase.kde.org wiki has a nice list on how to do a basic configuration | 13:41 |
| santa_ | when dealing with rebase I suggest to use "qgit --all" to inspect the results | 13:49 |
| santa_ | that helped me to understand how rebase works | 13:49 |
| santa_ | and same for merges | 13:49 |
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| Riddell | ximion: membership 20:00UTC tomorrow (22:00 central europe) | 14:02 |
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| mparillo | I see http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/342/builds is out for Alpha 1. Is it really ready for installation testing (I have been applying updates to Wily for a month now)? | 14:25 |
| * Riddell looks | 14:37 | |
| Mamarok | Riddell: I should be around for the meeting tomorrow evening | 14:38 |
| Riddell | mparillo: they're a couple of days old and there has been a bunch of stuff transitioned since then so I've asked for a rebuild and it should be good to test in an hour or so | 14:38 |
| mparillo | Thanks. I will look for a testers call then. | 14:40 |
| Riddell | mparillo: it'll be quietly announced on this channel | 14:41 |
| mparillo | Hmm, I did not think of it as quietly announced, but more the standard protocol to announce it here with the bang testers. | 14:43 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, what's to be tested ,...was disconnected for a few mins so I din't see any info | 14:44 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: alpha 1 candidates when they're build, should be done in an hour or so http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/342/builds | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, ok thanks , I'll be around | 14:46 |
| BluesKaj | but I have another desktop freeze so gotta reboot again | 14:47 |
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| Riddell | new images are in | 15:12 |
| Riddell | !testers | go test iso alpha 1 candidates | 15:12 |
| ubottu | go test iso alpha 1 candidates: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se, mamarley, alket, SourBlues, sgclark, neo31, vip for information | 15:12 |
| Riddell | hmm no mparillo on that | 15:12 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: could you fix ^^ | 15:12 |
| * Riddell out | 15:12 | |
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| santa_ | murthy: https://launchpad.net/~panfaust/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-kf5-experiments | 18:31 |
| santa_ | patched ark | 18:32 |
| murthy | santa_: Tested Ark from the ppa you gave. It works, ark is able to extract the zip file properly. Tested the gui and also on command line. Thank you so much! | 20:39 |
| santa_ | murthy: ok, would be interesting to compress a file with the windows menu and non-ascii characters and see if it works | 20:41 |
| santa_ | but please note that the patch is going to be somewhat controversial | 20:41 |
| santa_ | non upstreameable, can't share with debian | 20:41 |
| santa_ | it depends on ubuntu's infozip & unzip :( | 20:42 |
| murthy | sure, ya I know. You guys discuss with the team members and ask team if they are ok with a downstream patch | 20:43 |
| BluesKaj | ok testing alpha wily-desktop image here, and so far so good after installing the roght graphics driver (nvidia-340). Nouveau wasn't working very well when switching between VDs | 20:45 |
| BluesKaj | Konversation is still slow to switch between chats, almost 2 secs | 20:47 |
| murthy | santa_: just tested ark for zipping, it works properly | 20:47 |
| santa_ | ok | 20:53 |
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| murthy | santa_: Windows menu is the dolphin's context menu right? I have no Idea of how to test with a non-ascii characters | 20:55 |
| murthy | santa_: Can I create a file with kate which contains non ascii chars | 20:55 |
| santa_ | murthy: in the filename | 20:57 |
| santa_ | the patch from debian was meant to solve that problem | 20:57 |
| murthy | santa_: "ஏன் இனிய தமிழ் மக்களே" Is this ok ? | 20:57 |
| santa_ | but it broke ark in other ways | 20:57 |
| santa_ | sure | 20:57 |
| santa_ | murthy: also would be nice if you could mail me the file | 20:59 |
| santa_ | I would like to inspect it with an hex editor | 20:59 |
| murthy | santa_: I tested the original and the extracted with kdiff and it says they are binary equal | 21:00 |
| murthy | santa_: extraction of files with non-ascii filenames is successfull | 21:00 |
| santa_ | great | 21:01 |
| murthy | santa_: so do you need the files? | 21:01 |
| santa_ | murthy: would be nice to have them, yes | 21:02 |
| santa_ | could you mail them? you have my mail address in a priv query | 21:03 |
| murthy | santa_: how can I give you and what are the files you want? some of the original and extracted, just the non-ascii filenamed files ? | 21:03 |
| santa_ | the zip file you created with windows | 21:04 |
| murthy | p******t@gmail.com? | 21:04 |
| santa_ | yeah | 21:04 |
| murthy | santa_: you mean dolphin? | 21:04 |
| santa_ | hmm, windows | 21:06 |
| santa_ | that's the only platform I haven't covered | 21:06 |
| santa_ | I already have one file created with macos, another in linux | 21:07 |
| santa_ | but I don't have one from windows | 21:07 |
| santa_ | wait, have you created the file with dolphin? | 21:07 |
| murthy | santa_: I don't have a kde installation on windows | 21:07 |
| murthy | santa_: ya | 21:07 |
| murthy | santa_: I cant test any kde stuff on Microsoft windows | 21:08 |
| BluesKaj | murthy, why not ? :-) | 21:08 |
| santa_ | ah, ok. | 21:08 |
| BluesKaj | KDE for windows | 21:08 |
| santa_ | murthy: what I meant was: 1. create a *.zip file in windows and 2. extract it with ark | 21:09 |
| murthy | BluesKaj: Last time I tested it, windows is degrading kde | 21:09 |
| murthy | santa_: I have pzip in linux, wont it work? | 21:09 |
| murthy | santa_: I have peazip in linux, wont it work? | 21:10 |
| BluesKaj | murthy, I was just kidding ..I tried KDE on windows and it's pretty clunky | 21:10 |
| murthy | I knew you :) | 21:10 |
| BluesKaj | Ok | 21:10 |
| BluesKaj | murthy, try unp , it will extract almost any compressed file | 21:11 |
| murthy | checking | 21:11 |
| BluesKaj | anyway , gotta go ..have fun , later | 21:14 |
| murthy | santa_: I will try compress a some files in windows using winrar on windows and extract it in linux using ark and compare it. I will send the compressed file from windows and the extracted files to your mail id | 21:14 |
| murthy | need to reboot, will be back soon | 21:15 |
| santa_ | murthy: whatver you do, must be a zip file, please let me know in the email how you created it | 21:16 |
| murthy | santa_: I have sent you the mails with the zips and original files | 21:58 |
| murthy | Its 3:30 am here, going to bed see you later | 21:59 |
| soee | we wont have non LTS nvidia drivers available in drivers manager ? | 22:00 |
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