[04:51] <pitti> GOo dmorning
[04:51] <pitti> oh dear
[04:51] <pitti> Good morning
[05:46] <RAOF> And a goooooooo morning to you, too, pitti!
[05:46] <pitti> hey RAOF!
[05:48] <RAOF> Do you have any idea what's happening in the trusty neutron autopkgtests? http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-neutron/lastBuild/ARCH=amd64,label=adt/console is an example of the failure; something seems to be SIGTERMing something or other?
[05:49] <pitti> meh, what's wrong with firefox/vpn
[05:49] <RAOF> Oh, you're machine is also plagued by gremlins? Mine was having trouble seeing the ipv4 internet earlier.
[05:50] <pitti> $ host d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci
[05:50] <pitti> Host d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[05:50] <pitti> VPN itself works fine (I'm ssh'ed to IPs in prodstack), but apparently DNS broke
[05:51] <pitti> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-neutron/
[05:51] <pitti> looking at the job history it seems fairly consistent
[05:51] <pitti> RAOF: no idea from the log, I suppose that needs to be reproduced locally and investigated; the test isn't very verbose
[05:52] <RAOF> Yeah; seems like it hasn't passed since Trusty released.
[05:52] <RAOF> Fortunately there's a neutron SRU in -unapproved, so someone is going to get the lucky door prize soon!
[05:54] <pitti> well, a lot of the trusty autopkgtests are busted anyway
[05:54] <pitti> during trusty development we had a completely different autopkgtest environment
[08:06] <Laney> Hellooooooooooo
[08:07] <seb128> hey Laney, how is uk today?
[08:07] <Laney> hot!
[08:07] <Laney> how's fr/nl/wherever you are?
[08:11] <seb128> I'm in .fr, driving this afternoon though
[08:11] <seb128> weather is still a bit cold and wet here
[08:11] <seb128> where is summer?!
[08:12] <Laney> i'm keeping it safe for you
[08:12] <Laney> you can come visit one evening per month
[08:12] <seb128> lol
[08:42] <Laney> qengho: Looks like this is fixed in -11 in Debian maybe
[08:42] <Laney> testing that now
[08:43]  * Laney tries to remember how to poke an extra apt repo into adt
[10:25]  * Laney cries
[10:26] <seb128> chromium still making issues?
[10:26] <Laney> oh dunno about that, I just retried it
[10:27] <Laney> was looking at libreoffice/wps/poppler
[10:27] <Laney> it is involving another transition "mapnik" which isn't done in debian
[10:27] <Laney> can't find any relevant bugs
[10:37] <seb128> :-/
[10:37] <seb128> seems like a job for Sweet5hark1!
[10:38] <Laney> can we demote the mapnik stack to proposed?
[10:38]  * seb128 looks what is mapnik
[10:39] <Laney> wait, that wouldn't help
[10:39] <Laney> things are getting built against the new soname
[10:40] <Laney> no wait wait, it would
[10:40] <Laney> if we demote node-mapnik monav and their rdeps
[10:46] <Laney> qengho: hmm, still fails with -11 - can you quickly check if there's some difference which is missing please?
[10:52] <seb128> Laney, is mapnik&co the only thing blocking those transitions?
[10:54] <Laney> seb128: no, there is proj too...
[10:55] <Laney> if we believe https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=784160 then it should go right in
[11:00] <Laney> oh also mapnik has some NBS in proposed that needs cleaning up
[11:00] <Laney> should just be a matter of removing those packages from wily-proposed
[11:01] <seb128> I'm happy to run commands for you if you gave them to me ;-)
[11:01] <seb128> give*
[11:01] <seb128> but lunch first, bbiab
[11:03] <Laney> let me do the proj rebuilds first then see where we are
[11:08]  * Sweet5hark1 sneaks in.
[11:08]  * Sweet5hark1 googles wth mapnik is.
[11:13] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: presumably mapnik doesnt use libwps (I hope?). poppler I can imagine though ...
[11:14] <Laney> Sweet5hark1: it's just that all depending packages have to be ready together
[11:14] <Laney> which can then drag in other transitions you see
[11:14] <Sweet5hark1> Lab
[11:14] <Sweet5hark1> Laney: sure.
[11:14] <Laney> I think I see a path out
[11:18] <larsu> hey everyone
[11:47]  * desrt yawns
[12:17] <Laney> hey desrt!
[12:21] <desrt> hi laney
[12:21] <Laney> what's happening?
[12:22] <desrt> waiting.
[12:22] <desrt> i get the keys for the new place in 2 days
[12:22] <Laney> ah, this feeling of being on the cusp
[12:25] <desrt> ya...
[12:25] <desrt> enough to drive one mad :)
[12:26] <desrt> through various strange situations the date has shifted around a lot, and now, in fact, there are three separate dates for various different things
[12:38] <Laney> as long as "receive furniture" is after "gain possession"
[12:40] <Laney> qengho: I've fixed it, please pull chromium-browser so we don't lose the fixes
[12:43] <desrt> Laney: it is :)
[12:44] <pitti> hey larsu, how are you?
[12:44] <pitti> larsu: travelling?
[13:02] <larsu> pitti: hi! I'm great thanks. How are you?
[13:02] <larsu> not travelling, no
[13:24] <pitti> larsu: I'm great, thanks! having fun with cloud stuff
[15:49] <dpm> hi Sweet5hark1, quick question: how does the Android app manage to trim the LO app to 50MB?
[15:50] <Sweet5hark1> dpm: custom build. cutting out a bazillion things.
[15:52] <dpm> Sweet5hark1, could we also cut a bazillion things ourselves for the viewer?
[15:52] <Sweet5hark1> dpm: also, its a 50 MB installer (thus compressed), the size on the image might be larger.
[15:53] <Sweet5hark1> dpm: yes, its quite some work and we would also need a custom build too. but sure its possible,
[15:59] <Sweet5hark1> dpm: FWIW, just looking at /usr/lib/libreoffice is 250MB here, the biggest stuff is libmerged 52MB (all of core office), sw 14MB(Writer), sc 13MB (Calc), wpftwriter (12MB)
[16:01] <Sweet5hark1> dpm: as the production build on Ubuntu has ~everything in libmerged its not trivial to see how much of that we can cut. It will be a good bunch: e.g. there's a lot of UI dialogs and frontend stuff in there.
[16:03] <Sweet5hark1> dpm: the stuff to cut out would be UI (which we dont use), scripting interfaces (which we dont use), file format filters (e.g. reading word perfect files etc.)
[16:06] <dpm> thanks for looking into this Sweet5hark1
[16:09] <Sweet5hark1> dpm: (im not counting the stuff in /usr/share/libreoffice: themes, templates etc. -- we dont need most of that)
[16:09] <dpm> ack