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Riddellinfinity: fixed I hope ^09:56
infinityRiddell: Looks more reasonable to me.09:56
flexiondotorginfinity, If possible I'd like to squeeze a package update in for the Alpha1.10:06
flexiondotorginfinity, If I prepare the debdiff and tarball could your sponsor it?10:06
flexiondotorginfinity, Fixes a bug raised in the ISO tracker.10:07
flexiondotorgstgraber, See the above I message. Looks like you might be the right person to ask.10:09
infinityflexiondotorg: I'm not really here, it's 4am for me.  Might want to find another sponsor who's slightly more awake (maybe Riddell can help you out).10:10
flexiondotorginfinity, Sorry. Sleep well :-)10:10
flexiondotorgRiddell, stgraber If submit the debdiff would you sponsor the upload so I can rebuild the Ubuntu MATE images?10:11
Riddellflexiondotorg: ok10:16
flexiondotorgRiddell, Many thanks. I'll ping you the LP in a bit. Just making the debdiff and testing.10:16
flexiondotorgRiddell, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-artwork/+bug/146872510:36
ubot93Launchpad bug 1468725 in ubuntu-mate-artwork (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-mate-artwork 0.4.10 ISO tracker bugfix [debdiff attached]" [Undecided,New]10:36
flexiondotorgRiddell, Thanks for helping, much appreciated.10:36
Riddellhang on I haven't done it yet :)10:37
flexiondotorgRiddell, Payment in advance ;-)10:38
Riddellflexiondotorg: did you put your change into bzr?10:42
flexiondotorgRiddell, Opps. One sec.10:42
flexiondotorgRiddell, Pushed.10:43
Riddellflexiondotorg: uploaded!10:53
flexiondotorgRiddell, Thanks again. Will this go directly to the archive it will it have to be approved?10:53
RiddellI guess there's a block on so it'll need to be unblocked10:54
Riddellhmm no there's no block on10:55
Riddellso it'll go in10:55
flexiondotorgRiddell, Excellent.10:55
utlemmingCloud Images are back on track...I'm running the tests through now.11:03
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flexiondotorgstgraber, Any idea when ubuntu-mate-artwork in wily-proposed will graduate to release?12:01
flexiondotorgstgraber, I need to kick off a rebuild of the iso image with that package included.12:02
infinityflexiondotorg: Should be all published to release now.13:05
flexiondotorginfinity, Just checking....13:08
flexiondotorginfinity, Yep, just dist-upgrade on my test box. Thanks.13:13
flexiondotorgRiddell, Thanks for your help earlier. The one really obvious bug in Ubuntu MATE 15.10 Alpha 1 is fixed :-)13:17
flexiondotorginfinity, I've requested rebuilds of Ubuntu MATE.13:18
coreycbinfinity, can you promote python3-warlock to main?13:59
infinitycoreycb: I can indeed.14:04
coreycbinfinity, thanks14:04
flexiondotorginfinity, I requested rebuilds but haven't seen anything to indicate that something is happening. Is Ubuntu MATE building?14:06
infinityflexiondotorg: It was last I looked.14:11
flexiondotorginfinity, Yes, I've found the build logs. It's whirring :-)14:12
infinityflexiondotorg: I still see livefs builds going at https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/wily/ubuntu-mate14:13
flexiondotorgThanks infinity .14:13
infinityflexiondotorg: Guessing that brownie doesn't have the fastest disk...14:14
flexiondotorginfinity, I'd never seen that page before. Very useful. Thanks.14:14
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infinitywxl, Riddell, flexiondotorg: How are things looking from your end?  Looks like I'm taking over from stgraber today, as he's out sick.15:17
flexiondotorginfinity, I'm just smoke testing the rebuilt isos.15:17
flexiondotorginfinity, So far looks good.15:17
flexiondotorginfinity, When do you want to release?15:18
infinityflexiondotorg: When everyone's ready, ideally. :P15:18
infinityflexiondotorg: But, the earlier, the better, cause I've been up all night.  Whee.15:18
Riddellinfinity: I've had 3 testers say it's good so I've marked as ready (1 is yet to put it on iso.qa)15:19
infinityRiddell: Awesome, thanks.15:20
Riddellinfinity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Alpha1/Kubuntu release page15:20
infinityRiddell: Less fussed about people filling out pretty paperwork for alphas, but since you went to the trouble, I'll link it. ;)15:20
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flexiondotorginfinity, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Alpha1/UbuntuMATE15:32
infinitywxl: *nudge*15:34
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flexiondotorginfinity, All set :-)15:40
infinityflexiondotorg: Ta.15:41
infinitySo just waiting on lubuntu, then.15:41
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flexiondotorginfinity, Have the last vestiges of upstart been remove in 15.10?15:52
infinityflexiondotorg: It's still there for user sessions, but we don't use it on boot anymore, if that's what you mean.15:56
flexiondotorginfinity, User Sessions?15:58
flexiondotorginfinity, I realise the boot process moved the systemd in 15.04 but in my testing of 15.10 alpha 1, it is measurably faster than 15.04.15:58
infinityflexiondotorg: If it's faster, that could be some things moving from sysv init scripts to native units, or just general software improvements, who knows.15:59
flexiondotorginfinity, Well boot is faster. But system performance is improved generally.16:00
infinityflexiondotorg: As for user sessions, yes, some (many) desktop environments spawn an upstart --user that runs the DE and starts user services.  That should all be migrated in time too.16:00
flexiondotorginfinity, Ah, that explains it.16:00
flexiondotorginfinity, MATE uses systemd. Which is why I could find any trace of upstart in the boot/login trace.16:00
infinityutlemming: While I'm waiting on wxl to wake up and tell me about lubuntu, how's life in cloudy land?16:24
utlemminginfinity: the tracker is not updated yet...but we're good to pull the trigger. Cloud Images are a go16:25
infinityutlemming: Couldn't care less about the tracker, if you tell me they're good. :)16:25
utlemminginfinity: just tell when and I'll make Alpha-1 public16:27
utlemming(for cloud images)16:27
infinityutlemming: Kay.  Probably in a couple of hours, depending on lubuntu.16:28
davmor2infinity: well cloudly land is like fog only much higher up ;)16:29
utlemminginfinity: ack...I have a conflict later this afternoon, but  either rcj or gaughen can handle the level pulling.16:29
infinityutlemming: Or you can yank it early, if you don't care if it aligns with the announcement.  *shrug*16:30
wxlinfinity: good to go. marking them ready in 1m16:39
wxlinfinity: gotta get release notes together.16:39
infinitywxl: Kay.  My announce email will point at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Alpha1/Lubuntu for you.16:40
wxlsounds good infinity. thx16:40
infinitywxl: Are you tested on PPC too, or skipping those?16:40
wxlinfinity: skipping. i leave them open for people to test but we don't intent to release any ppc except lts16:41
infinitywxl: Check.16:41
wxlinfinity: dnoe16:46
tewardalpha one here we come XD17:03
infinityJust spinning up source ISOs and waiting for torrents to be happy, then we're good to go.17:07
wxlteward: well, depends on your vm17:08
wxloops wrong channel but yuou get the idea :)17:08
tewardwxl: i'll continue this in the right channel ;)17:09
wxlheheh k17:09
bdmurrayIn Launchpad is there a way to find the checksum for this package? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/armhf/isc-dhcp-server-dbg/4.3.1-5ubuntu2.117:22
infinitybdmurray: In the UI, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/204021070/isc-dhcp_4.3.1-5ubuntu2.1_armhf.changes (linked from the build)17:23
infinitybdmurray: But I'm sure the API knows too.17:23
bdmurrayinfinity: I've figured it out from the API, was just trying to find in the UI.17:23
infinitybdmurray: Right, from the UI, it's the "amhf build blah blah blah produced these files" link to get back to the build, then the .changes is there.17:26
infinitybdmurray: Could probably use an "oh god, this UI is awful" bug, given that we go out of our way to present source hashes in a nice table on the SPR pages, but do nothing pretty for binaries.17:27
wxlinfinity: isn't 4.0 kernel coming this cycle?17:29
infinitywxl: Yeah, it's in the kteam PPA, just ironing out a couple of last-minute wrinkles.  Should land early next week.17:29
wxlinfinity: thanks :)17:29
infinitywxl: We tried last week and hit a bump or two and reverted to 3.19. :P17:29
* wxl nods17:29
wxlunderstandable17:29
infinityThese source ISOs always take longer than I remember...17:33
* infinity twiddles his thumbs.17:33
* wxl moves this convo over to #lubuntu-devel17:33
infinityutlemming: Okay, source is publishing now, torrents look good, I'll blat the announcement out in ~10m17:39
infinitygaughen: ^17:39
gaughenahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh17:39
infinitywxl, Riddell, flexiondotorg: ^17:39
wxlinfinity: almost done with release notes anyways17:40
infinitygaughen: If you need more than 10m, let me know. :P17:40
flexiondotorginfinity, Thanks!17:40
utlemminginfinity: CPC is sprinting, 10 minutes is fine17:40
infinityutlemming: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/wily/alpha-1/ seems 404ish.17:50
utlemminginfinity: yeah, it hasn't finished up yet. API calls to AWS are taking a bit longer today17:53
infinityutlemming: Mmkay.  I can wait. :)17:53
infinityutlemming: Ooo, I see (some) content.18:10
utlemminginfinity: yeah, just finished....you're good to send the email. rsync will catch up shortly18:10
utlemminginfinity: job is confirmed as complete18:10
infinityutlemming: I can wait for rsync to finish, I'm not THAT impatient. :P18:11
flexiondotorginfinity, Thanks for your help today.18:12
infinityutlemming: Although, you seem to be rsyncing to sawo via some sort of bendy straw.18:15
utlemminginfinity: it would appear so...this is unsually slow18:16
infinityutlemming: And you can't even blame the distro, lamont yanked ports off sawo just for you!18:17
lamont"is yanking"18:17
infinityWell, true.18:17
infinitylamont: WHY SAWO SO SLOW18:17
lamontwaiting on a TTL expiry in china18:17
infinitylamont: It appeard to be rsyncing utlemming's images at the speed of distracted toddler.18:18
lamontnot sure18:18
infinitys/appeard/appears/18:18
utlemminglamont: did jerff get its TOS rules adjusted recently?18:18
lamontutlemming: I just pasted you a ps output that is likely relevant to your issue18:21
utlemminglamont: yup, thanks18:21
bdmurrayslangasek: docker (SRU bug 1454719) was never added to the MicroReleaseExceptions page, it had 2 +1 so should be fine correct? Additionally, that SRU includes lots of build depends. Are those okay?18:23
ubot93bug 1454719 in docker.io (Ubuntu Vivid) "docker.io update to 1.6.2" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145471918:23
Odd_Blokeinfinity: ISTR some nonsense around libnettle; we have libnettle4 on our images but it's not (AFAICT) in the archive for wily.  Should that be the case, or did we build our image at an inopportune moment (where 4 and 6 were both around)?18:33
Odd_Blokeinfinity: (We do also have libnettle6 on there)18:33
utlemminginfinity: it looks good now18:33
infinityOdd_Bloke: Try to remove it and see if anything goes with it?18:35
infinityutlemming: Thanks, pushing the announcement.18:35
Odd_Blokeinfinity: libhogweed2, but we have libhogweed4.18:35
infinityOdd_Bloke: Nothing else, though?18:36
Odd_Blokeinfinity: Nothing else.18:36
infinityOdd_Bloke: If so, I have no idea how it ended up on your image unless you installed it explicitly.18:36
Odd_BlokeHarumph.18:37
infinityOdd_Bloke: Either way, it's gone now, so the next build can't pick it up, no matter how hard it tries.18:37
Odd_BlokeHmm, I can probably just ignore it then.18:39
infinityOdd_Bloke: Oh, before it was removed, it might have been pulled in via a task, if you install with tasks.18:39
infinityOdd_Bloke: But yeah, gone is gone, and it's been gone for a couple of hours, so whatever.  Life moves on.18:40
Odd_BlokeOur testing picked up that it wasn't installable, so we'll catch it if it continues to be a problem. \o/18:40
Odd_Bloke(Or if this happens with something else)18:40
Odd_BlokeI think we do use tasks, but my memory of that part of our build process is currently swapped out to tape.18:41
infinityOdd_Bloke: You kids today and your high speed storage.  Real men swap to paper.18:41
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infinityOdd_Bloke: That was the implication, yes.18:47
Odd_Blokeinfinity: Did you have to Google for that Oscar Wilde quote, or do you just know them off the top of your head?18:53
infinityOdd_Bloke: I'm a walking uncyclopedia.18:54
slangasekbdmurray: docker was IIRC not a microrelease exception; but it should be documented somewhere, yes.  As for addition of build-deps, as long as those new build-deps are met in trusty...19:23

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