[02:04] <jeeves_moss_mobi> has anyone else noticed that SSH hangs when trying to connect to a server on a different subnet?
[02:04] <teward> jeeves_moss_mobi: never run into that on my networks, and i have 12 subnets (VLAN'd out the wazoo) all going through my pfSense appliance on my network
[02:04] <teward> define 'SSH Hangs'
[02:06] <jeeves_moss_mobi> well, I have a Cisco VPN between locations.  I just did a fresh install of 14.04LTS on a box at my house, when I try to do a simple SSH, the connection stops at "debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent"
[02:07] <jeeves_moss_mobi> and the other "test" server we built up at another spoke location does the sae thing.  if you're on the local subnet, everything works, but if you're connecting from another subnet, you can't connect
[02:08] <jeeves_moss_mobi> teward, are you using VPN connections?
[02:09] <teward> jeeves_moss_mobi: typically yes, but I think my rule changes today broke my net xD
[02:09] <teward> one moment
[02:09] <jeeves_moss_mobi> teward, ok.  I'm going to guess it's something stupid
[02:10] <teward> oh duh my apartment lost power yesterday and the box isn't on xD
[02:10] <jeeves_moss_mobi> lol.  damn it.
[02:11] <teward> jeeves_moss_mobi: but yes, i'm over an OpenVPN connection
[02:11] <jeeves_moss_mobi> any other ideas?
[02:11] <jeeves_moss_mobi> ahhh, these are hardware Cisco connections.  It's only the fresh installs that are causing issues.  All of the other systems in the datacenter have no issues
[02:13] <teward> jeeves_moss_mobi: so you pass over a VPN tunnel?
[02:13] <jeeves_moss_mobi> teward, yes.
[02:13] <teward> rather than software->hardware IPSec connections?
[02:13] <jeeves_moss_mobi> if I connect locally (ie. same subnet), everything works
[02:13] <teward> i didn't ask same subnet
[02:13] <jeeves_moss_mobi> the VPN is transparent.  it's deticated hardware
[02:14] <teward> i asked if it's going from an ASA on one net through an ASA on the other net, THEN to the network connection
[02:14] <teward> (or similar hardware, not necessarily ASAs on both sides)
[02:14] <jeeves_moss_mobi> teward, it's setup like this.   LAN-->1841--->internet-->2811-->LAN
[02:15]  * teward points at Cisco EOL Hardware
[02:15] <Patrickdk> jeeves_moss_mobi, sounds like you created an pmtu issue
[02:15] <jeeves_moss_mobi> and if we connect to older servers in the datacenter, it works.  So, it's an issue with the latest ISO image
[02:15] <jeeves_moss_mobi> Patrickdk, PMTU?
[02:15] <Patrickdk> vpn's are not transparent
[02:15] <teward> ^ that
[02:16] <Patrickdk> they make the mtu smaller
[02:16] <Patrickdk> if ping works, but http/ssh/... has issues
[02:16] <Patrickdk> likely pmtu issue
[02:16] <jeeves_moss_mobi> I could see that being an issue if all SSH sessions had issues, but it's only these 2 brand new installs
[02:16] <Patrickdk> for me, normally ssh works
[02:16] <jeeves_moss_mobi> everything BUT ssh currentl works
[02:16] <Patrickdk> till I do something like sftp/scp/ls
[02:17] <Patrickdk> if you have a key on your side and attempt to send it, that can easily cause an ssh login issue
[02:17] <jeeves_moss_mobi> was there an update/change in the latest version?
[02:17] <Patrickdk> if the pmtu issue is from you to the other side, then http will likely work
[02:18] <Patrickdk> latest version of what?
[02:18] <jeeves_moss_mobi> sshd
[02:18] <jeeves_moss_mobi> ok, so how do I fix this pmtu issue?
[02:18] <Patrickdk> google?
[02:18] <Patrickdk> it's easy to test
[02:18] <Patrickdk> run the test from both sides
[02:19] <jeeves_moss_mobi> ok, thanks guys.  I'm going to hit the pub, grab a beer, and work on this.
[02:19] <Patrickdk> but that is the first place I would look
[02:19] <Patrickdk> after that heh, there was a change lately to openssl
[02:19] <Patrickdk> but that change is not in ubuntu
[02:19] <Patrickdk> so you should not be affected
[02:20] <Patrickdk> stupid openssl people causing api incompatability in minor releases
[03:00] <neonixcoder> Good day team..
[03:01] <neonixcoder>  I am using 14.04 server and my rc*.d folder contain just 5 services but when I am booting a ubuntu I see all crap which I dont least bothered. You can find the services which are started here http://pastebin.com/i7n1tmfi. I dont know what are those service till 54 line.
[03:01] <neonixcoder> Any suggestions on this?
[03:03] <sarnold> neonixcoder: 14.04 LTS uses the upstart service management system and init; check out /etc/init.d/ and http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ for details
[03:30] <neonixcoder> sarnold: thanks for the link.. its a big doc..
[03:34] <sarnold> heh, yeah :)
[03:41] <neonixcoder> sarnold: So, after upstart is done my scripts in /etc/rc*.d folder are executed?
[03:41] <sarnold> neonixcoder: more or less, yes
[03:42] <sarnold> they're started _during_ the boot, but my eyes glaze over every time I read about the exact order :)
[03:42] <neonixcoder> how can I know which services are important and which are not? My requirement is to minimise the soft wares/services I use..
[03:43] <sarnold> neonixcoder: there isn't much in your pastebin that I would recommend removing
[03:43] <neonixcoder> I am redhat guy and upstrat is very much new to me, when I see a message like "Stopping userspace bootsplash" I did not understand what it is..
[03:44] <sarnold> neonixcoder: _maybe_ the thermald and the userspace bootsplash thing; but hopefully thermald doesn't take much cpu time during run, and goes to some effort to give you the best power / performance / heat combination.. -- and the bootsplash probably dosn't really matter, since it should be done in ten seconds anyway and never used again.
[03:44] <neonixcoder> sarnold: Ok, I am trying to understand couple of services which are started/stoped by upstart..
[03:45] <sarnold> neonixcoder: it looks like you're running both monit and nagios-nrpe, is that correct?
[03:45] <neonixcoder> sarnold: After 54 line, I require all services and most of them are run through init..
[03:45] <neonixcoder> Yes, monit and nagios are required by me..
[03:46] <sarnold> neonixcoder: how about postfix?
[03:46] <neonixcoder> postfix is required..
[03:47] <sarnold> neonixcoder: the bootsplash is probably plymouth. try apt-get purge plymouth and see if it complains at you or not.
[03:47] <neonixcoder> sarnold:Sure..
[03:47] <sarnold> I can't recall if anything useful actually requires plymouth or not..
[03:49] <neonixcoder> sarnold: when I do that it is asking me to remove required packages as well "accountsservice* cron* dbus* friendly-recovery* language-selector-common*
[03:49] <neonixcoder>   libpam-systemd* logrotate* mountall* plymouth* policykit-1* rabbitmq-server*
[03:49] <neonixcoder>   systemd-services* upstart* ureadahead*".
[03:49] <sarnold> neonixcoder: ugh. then leave it alone :/
[03:49] <neonixcoder> In this cron, logrotate, rabbitmq-server are required as per my knowledge..
[03:49] <neonixcoder> ok..
[03:50] <neonixcoder> Then better keep all the stuff..
[03:50] <sarnold> I wonder about rabbitmq-server; that seems like an oddity, there. (I don't have it installed on my 14.04 laptop, for example)
[03:51] <neonixcoder> sarnold:It is required by my application..
[03:51] <sarnold> neonixcoder: ah! okay. :)
[03:52] <sarnold> It seemed unlikely to be needed by a deffault install,  which is why it surprised me ..
[03:52] <neonixcoder> yes..
[03:52] <neonixcoder> I will update to my manager we can not remove default services..
[03:52] <neonixcoder> I have some other packages which I not sure if I can remove or not..
[03:52] <sarnold> another item on the todo list checked off :)
[03:53] <sarnold> neonixcoder: check out the 'orphaner' package; it can help you find left-over or no-longer-needed packages
[03:53] <sarnold> it might not be useful ona brand-new install, but after a machine has been in use for eight to twelve years, it's really convenient :)
[03:53] <neonixcoder> sure..
[03:54] <neonixcoder> sarnold:this is brand new one :)
[03:54] <neonixcoder> I have "dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size} ${Package}\n' | sort -nr | less" to see what packages are installed with size sorted out..
[03:55] <neonixcoder> Can I remove binutils?
[03:55] <sarnold> wow I have a lot of kernel packages installed..
[03:55] <sarnold> neonixcoder: you might be able to remove binutils if you iwll never compile software on the system again
[03:55] <sarnold> neonixcoder: I'd leave it. it's just too useful.
[03:55] <neonixcoder> ok..
[03:56] <neonixcoder> We normally install trough apt-get and pip(for python)..
[03:56] <neonixcoder> so I feel it should be.. but taking your suggestion I will keep it..
[03:56] <neonixcoder> How about locales?
[03:57] <sarnold> iirc, pip _might_ compile C/python modules at install time..
[03:57] <neonixcoder> ok..
[03:57] <neonixcoder> how about memtest86+?
[03:58] <sarnold> hmmmm, locales might be alright to remove. your application might assume that it can get e.g. en_US.UTF8 sort order or something similar..
[03:58] <neonixcoder> cool..
[03:59] <sarnold> memtest86+ installs a grub config entry and a tiny little OS onto the filesystem somewhere; it's probably best to keep it, it is fantastic for helping troubleshoot unexpected errors
[03:59] <sarnold> it should be tiny
[03:59] <neonixcoder> And I can even remove ntfs-3g with out any issue..
[03:59] <neonixcoder> I will keep memtest86+
[04:00] <sarnold> oh, check if you have zfs-fuse installed; I think that might be a default install..
[04:00] <sarnold> or at least I found it installed once when I didn't expect it.
[04:01] <neonixcoder> sure..
[04:01] <neonixcoder> its not installed..
[04:01] <sarnold> good..
[04:02] <neonixcoder> I hear systemd is not by default installed in 14.04
[04:02] <sarnold> right
[04:02] <neonixcoder> but I see systemd-services pacakge.. any idea on this sarnold?
[04:03] <sarnold> neonixcoder: that provides some different implementations of some systemd APIs that are required by other services and programs; they should be small and mostly things you need
[04:04] <neonixcoder> sarnold:Thanks for all your inputs.. able to remove couple of unwanted stuff..
[04:04] <sarnold> neonixcoder: nice :) have fun!
[04:04] <neonixcoder> sarnold:Do I really require /usr/src folder content?
[04:05] <neonixcoder> I have linux-headers-3.19.0-21  linux-headers-3.19.0-21-generic which is the present kernel running on the system..
[04:05] <sarnold> neonixcoder: I'd leave the headers there, some program sneed them to compile
[04:06] <sarnold> neonixcoder: if you have the kernel source packages installed, though, those can probably be removed.
[04:06] <neonixcoder> sarnold: I dont have kernel source package(I removed it long time back to save some space). We use 2GB SD card to install our ubuntu machine.
[04:07] <sarnold> neonixcoder: 2gb?? no wonder..
[04:07] <neonixcoder> Right now I can see 1.2gb used and I want to shrink it more..
[04:07] <sarnold> neonixcoder: hmm. then you're probably not compiling on this, are you? :)
[04:07] <sarnold> maybe it wouldn't be so bad to remove binutils and the kernel header packages
[04:07] <neonixcoder> hmmm
[04:07] <neonixcoder> if I remove them, will there be any boot related problems?
[04:08] <sarnold> I doubt it, but I can't promise that..
[04:10] <neonixcoder> sure.. I can take backup of present image..
[04:10] <neonixcoder> let me try that
[04:11] <neonixcoder> thanks for your time sarnold
[04:11] <sarnold> you're welcome neonixcoder :)
[08:19] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:22] <pezus1> hi. how can i set a persistant default gw route to debian? the "tricky" part is that i don't want to specify the ip of the gateway but the device name
[08:23] <Stony2> Hi guys, is anybody running ARK dedicated server?
[08:25] <Stony2> I'm experiencing a few weird things, it crashes randomly, after hours of running fine - you cannot see rain
[12:38] <jamespage> zul, coreycb: keystone, nova and designate are done - cinder, glance and swift all blocked still
[12:38] <zul> ack
[12:39] <zul> oh yeah liberty-1 is out
[12:39] <jamespage> zul, having packaged os-testr - i then realized we don't need it for the packaging :-)
[12:39] <jamespage> oooppps
[12:39] <zul> jamespage,  well if its needed...its there
[12:40] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks, want me to take the ones you didn't mention?
[12:40] <jamespage> coreycb, feel free to pick - remember the git repos we've got now
[12:40] <coreycb> jamespage, ok sounds good
[12:40] <jamespage> coreycb, not sure how proposing a pull against multiple branches works - so I may have to do the gbp import-orig bit for you
[12:40] <jamespage> coreycb, oh yes - we're not doing the fetch-upstream-remote thing
[12:41] <jamespage> use uscan and then gbp import-orig
[12:41] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[12:43] <zul> jamespage: can you write something up for me so i can hit the ground running once im done here
[12:43] <jamespage> zul, yeah - will do
[12:43] <zul> jamespage: a public wiki page would do
[12:43] <jamespage> that's what I was thinking of
[12:55] <jamespage> coreycb, zul: I've wedged temp version of dh-python into liberty-staging to unwedge the backport-o-matci
[12:55] <zul> ack
[12:55] <jamespage> its the same version as waiting for SRU team review in trusty proposed - fixes a problem with dh-python and argparse for python3 stuff
[12:55] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks
[13:02] <jamespage> coreycb, oh - btw - the assertRaisesRegex fixes can be dropped - we have a good enough version of testtools now to not need that
[13:03] <coreycb> jamespage, cool
[15:16] <zul> jamespage: keystonemiddleware ftbfs in the CA
[15:16] <zul> jamespage: for juno
[15:16] <jamespage> zul, oh
[15:23] <coreycb> jamespage, zul, any thoughts as to why tests aren't running for this?  https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/+archive/ubuntu/juno/+build/7573015
[15:23] <coreycb> I just ran a local build ok on trusty with the juno cloud archive enabled
[15:23] <coreycb> jamespage, zul ah you were just talking about it
[15:26] <zul> coreycb: no i don
[15:36] <jamespage> zul, amd64 vs i386?
[15:36] <zul> possibly its complaining about memcache
[15:39] <coreycb> jamespage, did you also use 'gbp import-orig' on the upstream branch?
[15:39] <jamespage> coreycb, you run that in the master branch - it shoves stuff in upstream and pristine-tar
[15:40] <coreycb> jamespage, got it, I see that now
[15:40] <coreycb> I had already run it in master
[15:40] <coreycb> and pristine-tar is updated too, nice
[15:40] <jamespage> coreycb, it should import to upstream, generate the pristine-tar and merge into master
[15:40] <jamespage> all automagic
[15:40] <coreycb> :D
[15:40] <jamespage> coreycb, https://wiki.debian.org/PackagingWithGit
[15:41] <coreycb> jamespage, thanks
[16:14] <coreycb> jamespage, should we be dropping debian/po files?  that's all debconf iiuc.
[16:20] <jamespage> coreycb, one sec
[16:40] <jak2015>  hi friends, how to check WHY my server crash? in wich log file i see?
[16:41] <teward> jak2015: `dmesg` output, but also /var/log/syslog may shed insight
[16:41] <teward> but 'crashed' is a very broad category of failures
[16:42] <jak2015> ok
[16:44] <jak2015> teward: http://pastie.org/10258719
[16:44] <jak2015> strange not?
[16:45] <teward> jak2015: check the previous syslog files
[16:45] <teward> because they are on rotate :)
[16:45] <teward> syslog.1 probably
[16:48] <jak2015> ok
[16:48] <jak2015> right
[16:52] <jak2015> i see more information
[16:55] <jak2015> not see any 'rare' http://pastebin.com/FNMQDuZY
[16:56] <jak2015> the problem was so so, yesterday at 16:00  to 18:00
[16:57] <jak2015> the problem is in line 39 to 50?
[16:58] <teward> jak2015: well what actually do you mean by 'crash'?
[16:59] <jak2015> i have installed mysql
[17:00] <jak2015> and the systems connect to my server
[17:00] <jak2015> at 16 so so cant ocnnect
[17:00] <jak2015> i try access with putty and cant
[17:00] <jak2015> need restarted the server
[17:00] <jak2015> line 26 new boot?
[19:29] <coreycb> jamespage, did you hit this?   dh: unable to load addon systemd: Can't locate Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/systemd.pm in
[19:32] <jamespage_> coreycb, you need to add dh-systemd to the BD's
[19:32] <jamespage_> coreycb, don't drop the debconf stuff for now
[19:32] <coreycb> jamespage, k
[19:33] <coreycb> jamespage, hmm I have dh-systemd in the BD's
[19:34] <jamespage> coreycb, is this during the source package build?
[19:34] <coreycb> jamespage, yes
[21:32] <rosco_y> How do I start mysql on ubuntu 15.04 server?
[21:32] <rosco_y> (** NEWBIE ALERT**  ** NEWBIE ALERT**  ** NEWBIE ALERT**  )
[21:33] <rosco_y> I've tried /etc/init.d/mysql start, and sudo service start mysql--with no luck (obviously)
[21:35] <genii> rosco_y: Is the mysql-server package installed?
[21:36] <rosco_y> genii, thank you.  I was wondering about that.  I only installed mysql-client.  that's the problem right? (he asked, hopefully)
[21:37] <genii> Most likely :)
[21:37] <rosco_y> Thank You very much!
[21:37] <genii> rosco_y: After it's installed, should start by itself. If not, use the sudo service method, not the init.d
[21:37] <genii> Ah, gone already
[21:40] <jKaideN> Anyone have experience with SquirrelMail, dovecot and postfix ?
[21:40] <jKaideN> I currently have two problems.
[21:41] <jKaideN> #1 I can receive emails, but when i send email. the domain part of the email contains my FQDN...
[21:41] <jKaideN> so when you try to reply to that email it wont send.
[21:42] <jKaideN>  #2 I have setup an Apache Virtual Hosts, so in total i'm hosting for 2 domains.
[21:42] <jKaideN> and for some reason I can login and read emails through cross-domain ..?
[21:43] <jKaideN> something sent to test@domain1.com and be read when you access webmail on test@domain2.com
[21:43] <jKaideN> and when I try to send an email to domain2.com it won't work, I can only send it to domain1.com
[21:44] <jKaideN> anyone out there that can help me?
[21:54] <omfgtora> i was using this page to set a static IP, is the "broadcast" setting optional?
[21:54] <omfgtora> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[23:18] <Pici>  /46
[23:53] <adonaros> Howdy, - not server specific, what does this HP DL1000 4 node server mean? When it is maxed out, does the OS see it as one giant computer with many cpu etc?
[23:53] <adonaros> or do they function like 4 different machines?
[23:54] <adonaros> http://www.ebay.com/itm/231534867402
[23:55] <shauno> the nodes are pretty much stand-alone computers  (I think they share a psu)
[23:55] <sarnold> four different computers
[23:56] <adonaros> thank you much for your clarification.