| barrydk | More almal | 05:05 |
|---|---|---|
| Kilos | ha monkeyjoe | 06:08 |
| mazal | More oom | 06:09 |
| Kilos | morning barrydk mazal inetpro | 06:09 |
| Kilos | oh its Squish | 06:09 |
| Kilos | hi MaNI | 06:10 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy we hit a luck, that colf front went east below us so we went just under freezing point | 06:12 |
| Kilos | cold front | 06:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh no | 06:14 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:14 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | its ok we'll send another one up soon enough | 06:14 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | :-D | 06:14 |
| Kilos | :D | 06:14 |
| inetpro | goeie more | 06:45 |
| Kilos | more inetpro | 06:45 |
| superfly | morning Kilos, inetpro, ThatGraemeGuy, mazal, barrydk | 07:12 |
| Kilos | mornsup | 07:12 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:13 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 07:13 |
| Kilos | tab completes dont work with all words | 07:13 |
| pieter2627 | morning all | 07:46 |
| Kilos | hi pieter2627 | 07:46 |
| Kilos | baie koud ne | 07:46 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning Mr. Fly | 07:48 |
| === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding | ||
| pieter2627 | nee, die koue kom mos nog | 08:16 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:21 |
| Kilos | hi Cryterion`hiding | 08:21 |
| Kilos | dont help hiding in plain site | 08:21 |
| MaNI | morning | 08:23 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 08:24 |
| * Kilos thinks | 08:24 | |
| Kilos | or tries too anyway | 08:24 |
| Kilos | wasnt it suggested that we get more involved with lugs, or them with us? | 08:25 |
| === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion | ||
| Cryterion | lol, Hi | 08:43 |
| === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding | ||
| === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion | ||
| === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding | ||
| Kilos | MaNI feeling clever? | 10:09 |
| MaNI | not particularly, but I can try anyway | 10:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:10 |
| Kilos | ive forgotten the formula to work out what current limiting resistor is needed to supply 5v to a led | 10:10 |
| Kilos | like i want to use the 5v from a usb port but dunno how to work out what resistor will stop the led blowing | 10:11 |
| MaNI | I knew all this stuff once :( | 10:13 |
| Kilos | lol me too but kinda long ago | 10:13 |
| MaNI | http://ledcalc.com/ :p | 10:13 |
| Kilos | ty | 10:13 |
| MaNI | can't you select the voltage on USB as well, so the first question is what USB voltage | 10:14 |
| Kilos | i just gotta curb browsing for some days | 10:14 |
| Kilos | usb supplies 5v to charge cells etc | 10:14 |
| MaNI | or is that only usb2 | 10:14 |
| MaNI | I know the upcoming USB can go up to 18 or something | 10:15 |
| Kilos | i dunno, any usb port | 10:15 |
| MaNI | ahh yeah its only 5v for now, its the next one where you can select | 10:16 |
| MaNI | 5/12/20 - thats going to be pretty cool | 10:16 |
| Kilos | i just want to supply light to keyboard from usb | 10:17 |
| Kilos | then i can tell pro how or make him one | 10:17 |
| MaNI | USB-PD - the end of wall warts :p | 10:18 |
| MaNI | USB 1/2 seem to be 5v 2.5W | 10:18 |
| Kilos | ok now | 10:19 |
| Kilos | you know the leds that show hdd working etc | 10:19 |
| MaNI | those standard little ones yeah? | 10:19 |
| Kilos | they take their power off the motherboard so the mobo most likely does the limiting for you | 10:20 |
| MaNI | about 150 Ohm apparently | 10:21 |
| MaNI | for a green one | 10:21 |
| Kilos | now i want to try one or 2 that will light just enough to see a keyboard in the dark | 10:21 |
| Kilos | oh i can measure one | 10:21 |
| === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion | ||
| Cryterion | 250ohm's minimum | 10:21 |
| Cryterion | Normally led's can handle a max of 20mA with V = IR (Volts = Current * Resistance) 5 volts/0.02A = 250ohms Kilo's | 10:22 |
| Kilos | ya but the current limiting thing took v in - v out and some other stuffs | 10:23 |
| Kilos | lemme work at it and will let you know | 10:24 |
| MaNI | they seem to factor voltage drop across the LED in somehow to get 150 for 20mA | 10:24 |
| MaNI | but I'm so rusty on this stuff so don't take my word for it :p | 10:24 |
| Cryterion | Yes, the resistor is doing the current limiting, going for a 500ohm will only allow 10mA through to the LED, half it's brightness | 10:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 10:24 |
| Cryterion | Maybe | 10:25 |
| Cryterion | I use a standard of a 1K resistor on my controllers, led's are still bright enough | 10:25 |
| Kilos | when using what voltage and from where Cryterion | 10:26 |
| Cryterion | That being at 5V | 10:26 |
| MaNI | 250 does seem a safe bet then | 10:27 |
| Kilos | the usb port must be quite powerful because it can power up external drives | 10:27 |
| Cryterion | But that's via a v-reg onboard, I'd rather say put a 1k, then you only 25% of max rating of the led and port | 10:27 |
| MaNI | only 900 mA on usb 3 :p | 10:28 |
| Kilos | ill try that first ty guys | 10:28 |
| Cryterion | Though usb was lower | 10:28 |
| Cryterion | thought* | 10:28 |
| MaNI | 500 mA on usb 1/2 | 10:28 |
| Kilos | i dont have usb3 | 10:28 |
| Cryterion | ok | 10:28 |
| MaNI | 5A on USB-PD - can't wait :p | 10:29 |
| Cryterion | Don't pop your led Kilos :) | 10:29 |
| Kilos | ya lol | 10:29 |
| Cryterion | I've had them explode on me before | 10:29 |
| Kilos | aw the white one i was hoping to use is popped already before i even get to try | 10:30 |
| MaNI | you sure its not infared? :p | 10:31 |
| Kilos | from an old p3 | 10:31 |
| MaNI | hehe | 10:31 |
| Kilos | murphy's law | 10:32 |
| Kilos | as jy kan sukkel, sal jy | 10:32 |
| Kilos | led about 1.8 ohms | 10:35 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:36 |
| Kilos | 1k resistor is brown black brown right | 10:38 |
| Kilos | bbroygbvgw | 10:38 |
| MaNI | brown black red I think | 10:40 |
| MaNI | brown black brown would be 100 | 10:41 |
| Kilos | ah ty | 10:41 |
| Kilos | w000t got one | 10:44 |
| Cryterion | It could also be brown black black brown (If 5 band resistors) | 10:44 |
| Kilos | heavy work when you need reading glasses and a magnifying glass to see what you use to see without glasses | 10:45 |
| Kilos | fluke says 991 ohms | 10:45 |
| Cryterion | close enough | 10:45 |
| Cryterion | normally a 5% accuracy | 10:45 |
| Cryterion | that's what the gold band would say | 10:46 |
| Kilos | ya good enough | 10:46 |
| Kilos | ya got a gold band too | 10:47 |
| Kilos | im lucky to be surrounded by clever peeps | 10:49 |
| Kilos | hi jrgns | 11:02 |
| jrgns | hello | 11:02 |
| jrgns | hello Kilos, all | 11:02 |
| mazal | elo | 11:14 |
| === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding | ||
| Kilos | haha just woke up, konversation has a global away button up top | 11:20 |
| Kilos | stupid white led makes a red glow | 11:59 |
| Kilos | grrr | 11:59 |
| MaNI | lol | 12:01 |
| === SilverCodeZA is now known as SilverCode | ||
| Kilos | hi SilverCode | 12:20 |
| mazal | l8tr everyone , have a nice afternoon | 12:36 |
| === Neo31` is now known as Neo31 | ||
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn hows neelsie? | 15:46 |
| Kilos | and family? | 15:47 |
| nlsthzn | fine thanks uncle Kilos ... we are under a bit of a strange flu at the moment but should be fine in a few days ... how about over there in sunny SA? | 15:47 |
| Kilos | jus cold man otherwise good ty | 15:48 |
| mazal | Hi all | 16:13 |
| mazal | maaz tell Cryterion Please message mazal re Server Store | 16:14 |
| Maaz | mazal: Got it, I'll tell Cryterion on freenode | 16:14 |
| Kilos | wat nou mazal | 16:15 |
| mazal | Kilos, I needs to ask Cryterion something | 16:15 |
| Kilos | oh you didnt break something | 16:16 |
| mazal | Re our minetest world | 16:16 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 16:16 |
| mazal | Nope , didn't break anything | 16:16 |
| Kilos | good | 16:16 |
| mazal | But the night is young | 16:16 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 16:16 |
| mazal | BTW , ordered an internal drive for server for that backups thing , so might break my server soon :P | 16:17 |
| Kilos | aha, no man dont break it | 16:17 |
| Kilos | things must just work | 16:17 |
| mazal | Is linux , so it should | 16:18 |
| Kilos | nono | 16:18 |
| Kilos | that old motto must die now | 16:18 |
| mazal | What one ? | 16:18 |
| Kilos | its linux so it must break | 16:19 |
| mazal | I was answering the " things must work " | 16:19 |
| mazal | IE it's linux , so it must just work | 16:19 |
| Kilos | lol ok | 16:20 |
| Kilos | thats why many stayed away from linux because things broke | 16:20 |
| Kilos | and you needed to be a serious geek to fix it | 16:21 |
| mazal | Ignorance is also a big reason hey | 16:21 |
| Kilos | yeah i broke things often | 16:22 |
| mazal | There are tons of users who still think " Linux is for server , it doesn't have apps for desktop pc's " | 16:22 |
| Kilos | but over 1 year now on 14.04 kd | 16:22 |
| Kilos | e | 16:22 |
| mazal | They simply don't know what it has these days | 16:22 |
| Kilos | i cant remember if cryterion comes on at night | 16:23 |
| Kilos | he was here all day , why didnt you ask him | 16:23 |
| mazal | I wasn't here | 16:23 |
| mazal | Only came in from the sites late | 16:23 |
| Kilos | ah | 16:23 |
| Kilos | ok | 16:23 |
| mazal | And didn't know what I needed then anyway | 16:24 |
| mazal | Just realized it :P | 16:24 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:24 |
| mazal | Ok , I go watch some F1 , l8tr | 16:24 |
| Kilos | ok | 16:24 |
| === spinza_ is now known as spinza | ||
| magespawn | good evening | 17:30 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:34 |
| Kilos | haha you becoming a good swimmer hey spinza | 17:37 |
| Kilos | hi superfly inetpro | 17:42 |
| MaNI | in a DB board is the rail that the breakers on usually earthed? | 17:47 |
| Kilos | whats a DB board | 17:49 |
| magespawn | no but it should also not be live | 17:49 |
| magespawn | the distribution board, like in you rhouse | 17:50 |
| magespawn | house too | 17:50 |
| Kilos | oh | 17:50 |
| Kilos | ours is on a eskom pole | 17:50 |
| Kilos | oh wait | 17:51 |
| MaNI | where your earth leakage is :p | 17:51 |
| Kilos | yaya i caught on | 17:51 |
| magespawn | that is your main breaker, there has to be one in the house | 17:51 |
| MaNI | so if something really bad happened like a breaker somehow melted that rail would be hot then? | 17:52 |
| Kilos | the rail that the breakers clip on is not connected to anything | 17:52 |
| Kilos | separate bars feed live neutral and earth | 17:52 |
| MaNI | is there plastic spacers or something behind it isolating it from the box then? | 17:53 |
| Kilos | not that i remember | 17:54 |
| Kilos | the whole box is not connected to anything | 17:54 |
| MaNI | is the box also not earthed? | 17:54 |
| MaNI | I presumed the box would be :/ | 17:55 |
| Kilos | but i can strip this one tomorrow and look for you | 17:55 |
| Kilos | thinking about it having the box earthed is good for safety purposes | 17:55 |
| Kilos | why you ask MaNI what happened | 17:56 |
| magespawn | the wires coming should be fully insulated | 17:56 |
| MaNI | lol nothing happened just curious, busy looking at plastic ones (for a solar combiner box), and was wondering about the rail, and then my mind went to the metal ones | 17:57 |
| MaNI | just curious :p | 17:57 |
| magespawn | if a breaker has melted then something is seriously wrong in the first place, so all bets are off | 17:57 |
| magespawn | ahh right | 17:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:57 |
| MaNI | I did have a circuit breaker melt in my house once | 17:57 |
| MaNI | actually our entire mains/earth fused | 17:58 |
| Kilos | overloaded | 17:58 |
| MaNI | something went wrong with the sub in our street | 17:58 |
| Kilos | eish | 17:58 |
| MaNI | we had like 2k volts coming in | 17:58 |
| MaNI | switched the lights on an the bulb vaporised :p | 17:58 |
| Kilos | eish they bypassed the transformer | 17:58 |
| MaNI | heh it was a failure of some kind scary stuff | 17:59 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 17:59 |
| MaNI | can't recall if it was as high as 2k but it was high :p | 17:59 |
| Kilos | magespawn does the name carin sound familiar | 18:07 |
| Cryterion | http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI | 18:11 |
| Cryterion | just something funny | 18:11 |
| Kilos | mazal ^^ | 18:12 |
| magespawn | Kilos: yes, why? | 18:27 |
| Kilos | twitter just mailed me with peeps it thinks i should follow and i saw the name | 18:28 |
| Kilos | i normally just delete them | 18:29 |
| Kilos | i dunno how it decides who one should follow | 18:29 |
| Kilos | but i dont follow for the fun of following or being able to brag how many followers ive got | 18:30 |
| Kilos | facebook does the same thing | 18:30 |
| Kilos | grrr | 18:30 |
| magespawn | carin is my wifes name | 18:33 |
| Kilos | i wonder how twitter decided i should follow her | 18:34 |
| magespawn | do you follow me? | 18:37 |
| Kilos | i dont know | 18:37 |
| magespawn | okay then | 18:38 |
| Kilos | i tried to only follow ubuntu peeps and eskom and telkom | 18:38 |
| magespawn | it usually suggests follows based on who you follow, etc etc | 18:38 |
| Kilos | fb has hundreds waiting to become friends | 18:38 |
| Kilos | oh maybe i follow you then and thats where it found a connection | 18:39 |
| magespawn | i would find that likely | 18:41 |
| Kilos | i only use twitter to fight with isps | 18:41 |
| Kilos | i wonder where inetpro is | 18:51 |
| Kilos | scared he has to work so just lurks | 18:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: +1 | 18:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:51 |
| Kilos | naand boetie | 18:52 |
| inetpro | makes two of us | 18:52 |
| * inetpro got lost in the ether | 18:52 | |
| Kilos | haha | 18:52 |
| Kilos | i had a big fight this avy | 18:53 |
| Kilos | nearly broke my nose | 18:54 |
| Kilos | ram charged me so i skopped him on the nose | 18:55 |
| Kilos | that made him crosser | 18:55 |
| Kilos | second charge i sidestepped and grabbed his head and jumped on his back | 18:56 |
| smile | bye :) | 18:56 |
| smile | good night Kilos | 18:56 |
| Kilos | and instead of lying down he ran with me | 18:56 |
| Kilos | night smile | 18:56 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 18:56 |
| smile | :D thanks | 18:56 |
| Kilos | so i reached around his body and grabbed a front leg so he fell | 18:57 |
| Kilos | then he hit head backwards onto my nose | 18:57 |
| Kilos | but he fell anyway so i sat on him and bled on him and slapped him silly | 18:58 |
| Kilos | nou weet hy wie is baas | 18:58 |
| magespawn | indeed | 19:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:09 |
| Kilos | very sore nose though | 19:10 |
| Kilos | night all, sleep tight | 19:20 |
| Kilos | i go rest the aching bones | 19:20 |
| mazal | Night everyone , sleep well | 19:24 |
| === cryterion_ is now known as cryterion`hiding | ||
| smile | Slaapwel :) | 21:40 |
| * cryterion`hiding wonders who he is here | 22:18 | |
| === cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion | ||
| Cryterion | That's better | 22:21 |
| === monkeyjoe is now known as squish102 | ||
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