[05:05] More almal [06:08] ha monkeyjoe [06:09] More oom [06:09] morning barrydk mazal inetpro [06:09] oh its Squish [06:10] hi MaNI [06:12] hi ThatGraemeGuy we hit a luck, that colf front went east below us so we went just under freezing point [06:13] cold front [06:14] oh no [06:14] lol [06:14] its ok we'll send another one up soon enough [06:14] :-D [06:14] :D [06:45] goeie more [06:45] more inetpro [07:12] morning Kilos, inetpro, ThatGraemeGuy, mazal, barrydk [07:12] mornsup [07:13] ai! [07:13] morning superfly [07:13] tab completes dont work with all words [07:46] morning all [07:46] hi pieter2627 [07:46] baie koud ne [07:48] morning Mr. Fly === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [08:16] nee, die koue kom mos nog [08:21] lol [08:21] hi Cryterion`hiding [08:21] dont help hiding in plain site [08:23] morning [08:24] hmm... [08:24] * Kilos thinks [08:24] or tries too anyway [08:25] wasnt it suggested that we get more involved with lugs, or them with us? === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion [08:43] lol, Hi === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [10:09] MaNI feeling clever? [10:09] not particularly, but I can try anyway [10:10] lol [10:10] ive forgotten the formula to work out what current limiting resistor is needed to supply 5v to a led [10:11] like i want to use the 5v from a usb port but dunno how to work out what resistor will stop the led blowing [10:13] I knew all this stuff once :( [10:13] lol me too but kinda long ago [10:13] http://ledcalc.com/ :p [10:13] ty [10:14] can't you select the voltage on USB as well, so the first question is what USB voltage [10:14] i just gotta curb browsing for some days [10:14] usb supplies 5v to charge cells etc [10:14] or is that only usb2 [10:15] I know the upcoming USB can go up to 18 or something [10:15] i dunno, any usb port [10:16] ahh yeah its only 5v for now, its the next one where you can select [10:16] 5/12/20 - thats going to be pretty cool [10:17] i just want to supply light to keyboard from usb [10:17] then i can tell pro how or make him one [10:18] USB-PD - the end of wall warts :p [10:18] USB 1/2 seem to be 5v 2.5W [10:19] ok now [10:19] you know the leds that show hdd working etc [10:19] those standard little ones yeah? [10:20] they take their power off the motherboard so the mobo most likely does the limiting for you [10:21] about 150 Ohm apparently [10:21] for a green one [10:21] now i want to try one or 2 that will light just enough to see a keyboard in the dark [10:21] oh i can measure one === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion [10:21] 250ohm's minimum [10:22] Normally led's can handle a max of 20mA with V = IR (Volts = Current * Resistance) 5 volts/0.02A = 250ohms Kilo's [10:23] ya but the current limiting thing took v in - v out and some other stuffs [10:24] lemme work at it and will let you know [10:24] they seem to factor voltage drop across the LED in somehow to get 150 for 20mA [10:24] but I'm so rusty on this stuff so don't take my word for it :p [10:24] Yes, the resistor is doing the current limiting, going for a 500ohm will only allow 10mA through to the LED, half it's brightness [10:24] lol [10:25] Maybe [10:25] I use a standard of a 1K resistor on my controllers, led's are still bright enough [10:26] when using what voltage and from where Cryterion [10:26] That being at 5V [10:27] 250 does seem a safe bet then [10:27] the usb port must be quite powerful because it can power up external drives [10:27] But that's via a v-reg onboard, I'd rather say put a 1k, then you only 25% of max rating of the led and port [10:28] only 900 mA on usb 3 :p [10:28] ill try that first ty guys [10:28] Though usb was lower [10:28] thought* [10:28] 500 mA on usb 1/2 [10:28] i dont have usb3 [10:28] ok [10:29] 5A on USB-PD - can't wait :p [10:29] Don't pop your led Kilos :) [10:29] ya lol [10:29] I've had them explode on me before [10:30] aw the white one i was hoping to use is popped already before i even get to try [10:31] you sure its not infared? :p [10:31] from an old p3 [10:31] hehe [10:32] murphy's law [10:32] as jy kan sukkel, sal jy [10:35] led about 1.8 ohms [10:36] ai! [10:38] 1k resistor is brown black brown right [10:38] bbroygbvgw [10:40] brown black red I think [10:41] brown black brown would be 100 [10:41] ah ty [10:44] w000t got one [10:44] It could also be brown black black brown (If 5 band resistors) [10:45] heavy work when you need reading glasses and a magnifying glass to see what you use to see without glasses [10:45] fluke says 991 ohms [10:45] close enough [10:45] normally a 5% accuracy [10:46] that's what the gold band would say [10:46] ya good enough [10:47] ya got a gold band too [10:49] im lucky to be surrounded by clever peeps [11:02] hi jrgns [11:02] hello [11:02] hello Kilos, all [11:14] elo === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [11:20] haha just woke up, konversation has a global away button up top [11:59] stupid white led makes a red glow [11:59] grrr [12:01] lol === SilverCodeZA is now known as SilverCode [12:20] hi SilverCode [12:36] l8tr everyone , have a nice afternoon === Neo31` is now known as Neo31 [15:46] hi nlsthzn hows neelsie? [15:47] and family? [15:47] fine thanks uncle Kilos ... we are under a bit of a strange flu at the moment but should be fine in a few days ... how about over there in sunny SA? [15:48] jus cold man otherwise good ty [16:13] Hi all [16:14] maaz tell Cryterion Please message mazal re Server Store [16:14] mazal: Got it, I'll tell Cryterion on freenode [16:15] wat nou mazal [16:15] Kilos, I needs to ask Cryterion something [16:16] oh you didnt break something [16:16] Re our minetest world [16:16] oh ya [16:16] Nope , didn't break anything [16:16] good [16:16] But the night is young [16:16] hahaha [16:17] BTW , ordered an internal drive for server for that backups thing , so might break my server soon :P [16:17] aha, no man dont break it [16:17] things must just work [16:18] Is linux , so it should [16:18] nono [16:18] that old motto must die now [16:18] What one ? [16:19] its linux so it must break [16:19] I was answering the " things must work " [16:19] IE it's linux , so it must just work [16:20] lol ok [16:20] thats why many stayed away from linux because things broke [16:21] and you needed to be a serious geek to fix it [16:21] Ignorance is also a big reason hey [16:22] yeah i broke things often [16:22] There are tons of users who still think " Linux is for server , it doesn't have apps for desktop pc's " [16:22] but over 1 year now on 14.04 kd [16:22] e [16:22] They simply don't know what it has these days [16:23] i cant remember if cryterion comes on at night [16:23] he was here all day , why didnt you ask him [16:23] I wasn't here [16:23] Only came in from the sites late [16:23] ah [16:23] ok [16:24] And didn't know what I needed then anyway [16:24] Just realized it :P [16:24] lol [16:24] Ok , I go watch some F1 , l8tr [16:24] ok === spinza_ is now known as spinza [17:30] good evening [17:34] hi magespawn [17:37] haha you becoming a good swimmer hey spinza [17:42] hi superfly inetpro [17:47] in a DB board is the rail that the breakers on usually earthed? [17:49] whats a DB board [17:49] no but it should also not be live [17:50] the distribution board, like in you rhouse [17:50] house too [17:50] oh [17:50] ours is on a eskom pole [17:51] oh wait [17:51] where your earth leakage is :p [17:51] yaya i caught on [17:51] that is your main breaker, there has to be one in the house [17:52] so if something really bad happened like a breaker somehow melted that rail would be hot then? [17:52] the rail that the breakers clip on is not connected to anything [17:52] separate bars feed live neutral and earth [17:53] is there plastic spacers or something behind it isolating it from the box then? [17:54] not that i remember [17:54] the whole box is not connected to anything [17:54] is the box also not earthed? [17:55] I presumed the box would be :/ [17:55] but i can strip this one tomorrow and look for you [17:55] thinking about it having the box earthed is good for safety purposes [17:56] why you ask MaNI what happened [17:56] the wires coming should be fully insulated [17:57] lol nothing happened just curious, busy looking at plastic ones (for a solar combiner box), and was wondering about the rail, and then my mind went to the metal ones [17:57] just curious :p [17:57] if a breaker has melted then something is seriously wrong in the first place, so all bets are off [17:57] ahh right [17:57] lol [17:57] I did have a circuit breaker melt in my house once [17:58] actually our entire mains/earth fused [17:58] overloaded [17:58] something went wrong with the sub in our street [17:58] eish [17:58] we had like 2k volts coming in [17:58] switched the lights on an the bulb vaporised :p [17:58] eish they bypassed the transformer [17:59] heh it was a failure of some kind scary stuff [17:59] sjoe [17:59] can't recall if it was as high as 2k but it was high :p [18:07] magespawn does the name carin sound familiar [18:11] http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI [18:11] just something funny [18:12] mazal ^^ [18:27] Kilos: yes, why? [18:28] twitter just mailed me with peeps it thinks i should follow and i saw the name [18:29] i normally just delete them [18:29] i dunno how it decides who one should follow [18:30] but i dont follow for the fun of following or being able to brag how many followers ive got [18:30] facebook does the same thing [18:30] grrr [18:33] carin is my wifes name [18:34] i wonder how twitter decided i should follow her [18:37] do you follow me? [18:37] i dont know [18:38] okay then [18:38] i tried to only follow ubuntu peeps and eskom and telkom [18:38] it usually suggests follows based on who you follow, etc etc [18:38] fb has hundreds waiting to become friends [18:39] oh maybe i follow you then and thats where it found a connection [18:41] i would find that likely [18:41] i only use twitter to fight with isps [18:51] i wonder where inetpro is [18:51] scared he has to work so just lurks [18:51] Kilos: +1 [18:51] lol [18:52] naand boetie [18:52] makes two of us [18:52] * inetpro got lost in the ether [18:52] haha [18:53] i had a big fight this avy [18:54] nearly broke my nose [18:55] ram charged me so i skopped him on the nose [18:55] that made him crosser [18:56] second charge i sidestepped and grabbed his head and jumped on his back [18:56] bye :) [18:56] good night Kilos [18:56] and instead of lying down he ran with me [18:56] night smile [18:56] sleep tight [18:56] :D thanks [18:57] so i reached around his body and grabbed a front leg so he fell [18:57] then he hit head backwards onto my nose [18:58] but he fell anyway so i sat on him and bled on him and slapped him silly [18:58] nou weet hy wie is baas [19:09] indeed [19:09] lol [19:10] very sore nose though [19:20] night all, sleep tight [19:20] i go rest the aching bones [19:24] Night everyone , sleep well === cryterion_ is now known as cryterion`hiding [21:40] Slaapwel :) [22:18] * cryterion`hiding wonders who he is here === cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion [22:21] That's better === monkeyjoe is now known as squish102