[00:07] <pigeon-> trying to read msdos floppy disk - can this be done with xubuntu ?
[09:33] <askan> hi
[09:34] <knome> hello
[09:35] <askan> how remove trash icon on desktop in xubuntu
[09:35] <askan> ?
[09:36] <knome> go the desktop settings (via right-clicking the desktop or from the settings manager), tab icons
[12:53] <knob> Guys... I have a problem that's becoming a nuisance.  Something happened on my Xubuntu 15.x laptop.  Everytime I boot her up, she goes into the command line and I have to type    systemctl default    for her to go into the Window Manager (X?)
[12:53] <knob> Any idea how to fix it?
[14:11] <Lovich> Would it be worth switching to xubuntu for someone who is running ubuntu with xfce desktop?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Lovich, wouldn't be much different
[14:12] <Lovich> That was my thinking as well
[14:13] <GridCube> you would get support on this channel P:
[14:13] <Lovich> Heheheh
[14:13] <GridCube> and default theming and stuff like that that is pretty cool
[14:14] <Lovich> Yeah been playing around with different environments this morning and xfce is pretty solidly my favorite
[14:15] <GridCube> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop :D
[14:35] <pigeon-> good morning to all !    I have no problem to watch movies with VLC from the external hard drive.  These are divX which I have downloaded (torrent).   However, I can not play an original DVD.  any suggestion?
[14:39] <pigeon-> I have the xubuntu-restricted-extras installed, as well as libdvdread4 and libdvdnav4
[14:41] <GridCube> pigeon-: how do you "play" the dvds?
[14:41] <GridCube> if i remember correctly, theres a different "open" on vlc just for disks
[14:42] <pigeon-> I've tried two ways to lauch the DVD.   First by double-clic on film,   and I also try to lauch the VLC media player first,  then go to    media - open file,  and select the movie
[14:42] <pigeon-> yes, u are rite, thee is in fact   'open'  in media,  to open the movie
[14:42] <GridCube> yeah, but inst there like "media > open disk" or something like that
[14:43] <GridCube> :) try that option
[14:43] <pigeon-> okee, will try it now,,,,,,
[15:18] <pigeon-> hi GridCube
[15:19] <GridCube> oi pigeon-
[15:19] <pigeon-> okee, the way you suggested is the RIGHT way to do it
[15:19] <pigeon-> however,
[15:19] <pigeon-> I've tried 6 different DVD (original ones)
[15:20] <pigeon-> and some work fine, however, some don't want to play
[15:20] <GridCube> region issues?
[15:20] <pigeon-> hummm
[15:20] <pigeon-> all my DVD are North American
[15:20] <GridCube> no idea anyway
[15:20] <GridCube> i have only played a dvd once
[15:21] <pigeon-> okee, thanks for your help
[15:21] <GridCube> maybe the dvds are scratched?
[15:21] <pigeon-> open disc is the proper way to go
[15:21] <GridCube> or the reader is not clean?
[15:21] <GridCube> or maybe the format is unusual? or maybe vlc cant properly reproduce it?
[15:21] <GridCube> no idea
[15:21] <pigeon-> ok
[15:22] <pigeon-> thanks
[15:22] <GridCube> have you tried xine?
[15:22] <pigeon-> is xine a media player?
[15:22] <cfhowlett> if VCL isn't reading it, you might be SOL
[15:22] <knome> i would run vlc from the command line and see what the output says
[15:23] <knome> "$x doesn't play dvd's" doesn't help at all with debugging
[15:23] <GridCube> !info xine | pigeon-
[15:23] <GridCube> o:
[15:23] <GridCube> it doesnt exists
[15:24] <GridCube> !info gxine
[15:25] <GridCube> but as knome said, try to figure out whats wrong first
[15:25] <knome> pigeon-, what's the command line output for vlc when you insert a dvd and try to play it?
[15:25] <pigeon-> I see that   xine video player is availabe from the ubuntu-software-center
[15:28] <pigeon-> hi knome....  i did not try to lauch VLC from the terminal...    When I first inserted the DVD in dvdrum,  the    parole media player tried to play the dvd, but many times, parole media player is not good, so I simply x out
[15:28] <pigeon-> then i lauch VLC
[15:28] <knome> pigeon-, then try to launch vlc from the terminal, please
[15:28] <knome> "$player doesn't play dvd's" is unhelpful
[15:28] <pigeon-> okeee, can u tell me what is the COMMAND to lauch vlc from terminal?
[15:29] <knome> vlc
[15:29] <pigeon-> ok,  minute plz
[15:31] <pigeon-> it did lauch my VLC.
[15:31] <knome> ok, now try playing a dvd.
[15:32] <pigeon-> okeee,   u mean one that did not work before?  ok will do
[15:32] <knome> yes.
[15:34] <pigeon-> no,,,  not working
[15:34] <pigeon-> :(
[15:34] <knome> so, as i asked before... please pay attention:
[15:34] <knome> what is the command line output for vlc?
[15:34] <knome> !pastebin | pigeon-
[15:34] <pigeon-> i will copy/paste one line at a time
[15:35] <knome> no, please pastebin
[15:35] <pigeon-> from what i see in my teminla
 pigeon-, then try to launch vlc from the terminal, please
 "$player doesn't play dvd's" is unhelpful
 okeee, can u tell me what is the COMMAND to lauch vlc from
[15:37] <pigeon-> VLC media player 2.1.6 Rincewind (revision 2.1.6-0-gea01d28)
[15:38] <knome> pigeon-, please use a pastebin
[15:38] <pigeon-> [0x884b928] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to u
[15:38] <pigeon-> se vlc without interface.
[15:38] <pigeon-> this is waht i see on my terminal...
[15:39] <knome> yes, please pastebin it all
[15:39] <knome> not to the channel, to a pastebin
[15:39] <knome> see:
[15:39] <knome> !pastebin | pigeon-
[15:39] <pigeon-> ~$ vlc
[15:39] <pigeon-> VLC media player 2.1.6 Rincewind (revision 2.1.6-0-gea01d28)
[15:39] <pigeon-> [0x884b928] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[15:39] <knome> no.
[15:39] <knome> STOP.
[15:40] <pigeon-> sorry I don't undersand whqt is meant by  pastebin
[15:40] <knome> see what ubottu told you before
[15:40] <knome> start paying attention
[15:45] <pigeon-> ok knome,,,,  i did go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and I have posted there
[15:45] <knome> ok, and what's the paste URL?
[15:47] <pigeon-> i think this is the past url
[15:47] <pigeon-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11773942/
[15:48] <knome> ok - so after launching vlc command line, did you try to play the dvd with the SAME vlc instance?
[15:48] <pigeon-> no,  but i can try it again.  plz wait
[15:51] <pigeon-> got some messages in my  terminal, which I will poste in http://paste.ubuntu.com for you to check out.... plz wait
[15:52] <pigeon-> here is the url link
[15:52] <pigeon-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11773973/
[15:53] <knome> ok, so you don't actually have the encrypted DVD support installed, as you can see
[15:53] <knome> run:
[15:53] <knome> sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[15:54] <pigeon-> yes, thank will try to install that
[15:56] <pigeon-> okee, it:s installed....  now I will do the same test to see if Vlc will play the dvd
[15:58] <pigeon-> okee, knome...   my DVD is working now, however that was lots of stuff appearing in my terminal.  Should you have a look at this?
[16:00] <knome> pigeon-, nope, that's normal
[16:00] <knome> pigeon-, you don't need to open vlc from the terminal, that was just for debugging purposes
[16:00] <pigeon-> okee,  I will do the same TESTS with three other original DVD that did not work before
[16:00] <pigeon-> Thank you for your help;  much appreciated
[16:01] <knome> you're welcome
[16:04] <pigeon-> somebody else, I think it was GridCube suggested something about  xine media player....  Do you see any advantage for me to install it now?  It is available on ubuntu-software-center
[16:04] <knome> pigeon-, no; you don't need to install xine
[16:04] <pigeon-> ok thanks
[16:04] <knome> and fwiw, parole should be able to play the DVDs now as well
[16:04] <pigeon-> ok
[16:09] <pigeon-> okee, Knome.... the DVD that did not work this morning, are working fine now....  Thank you for your help
[16:09] <knome> again, you're welcome
[18:23] <GridCube> how would i launch a secondary xserver from a tty? xstart -- :1 is not doing it :/
[18:52] <genii> GridCube: Use something like xephyr or xnest
[18:53] <GridCube> genii: that wound not open a second xserver on a different F#
[18:53] <GridCube> /s/wound/would
[18:58] <genii> GridCube: You can't launch another Xsession which uses the same monitors from another console. They are in use by the existing X session.
[18:58] <GridCube> thats new
[18:58] <GridCube> so
[19:07] <genii> GridCube: Sorry, actually use something like: sudo startx -- :1 vt1      (space between -- and :  also vt# is the console to try running it on ) .
[19:11] <GridCube> nope
[19:11] <GridCube> nevermind
[19:11] <GridCube> i'll figure later
[22:41] <Jesuwope> If I download an .apt file (such as with current versions of adobe flash), how would I go about installing that in Xubuntu?  Do I type sudo apt install filename, sudo install filename, or what
[22:41] <knome> have you tried installin the adobe flash player from the software repositories?
[22:41] <Jesuwope> I don't know where they are
[22:41] <Jesuwope> I just installed Xubuntu yesterday
[22:42] <knome> open ubuntu software center from the menu
[22:42] <drc> Jesuwope: "that graphical Xubuntu software install app" knows where to find them.
[22:42] <knome> Jesuwope, http://docs.xubuntu.org/1504/C/managing-applications.html
[22:42] <Jesuwope> ok
[22:44] <Jesuwope> I must say... I have used many distros over the years but I like Ubuntu the best
[22:44] <Jesuwope> It is really elite
[22:44] <Jesuwope> In addition... I was having a lot of trouble with this acer aspire computer in CentOS and Fedora, it wasn't working with my networking card
[22:45] <Jesuwope> I think it's the XFCE that works
[22:45] <Jesuwope> I had tried Manjaro
[22:45] <knome> xfce doesn't make hardware work or break, but i'm glad to hear xubuntu works for you
[22:45] <Jesuwope> It worked with my internet chipset but it had strange problems and it kept losing boot ability and would say "could not find login/splash screen"... was no good
[22:45] <Jesuwope> well I don't know if it was gnome or not
[22:45] <Jesuwope> that was doing it
[22:46] <Jesuwope> because there were alot of windowing problems too
[22:46] <Jesuwope> with gnome and connecting
[22:46] <Jesuwope> if it ISN'T the XFCE, then kudos again to Xubuntu
[22:46] <Jesuwope> thanks for the help
[22:46] <Jesuwope> I'm out
[22:46] <Jesuwope> have a nice day
[22:50] <Guido2> Hee, I have a problem with my WiFi settings. In one Netwwork the acces paswoord has to be changed from time to time on my laptop. If I open the settings of the network i can change it, but for some reason i can not save the changes. how can i solve this problem?
[23:59] <Jesuwope> I am having trouble with my power management settings.  I set all the variables to "Never", so that the screen won't blank and so that there wouldn't be any sleep or hibernate unless I close the computer lid and yet it still acts the same.  Can anyone help me to know why?