[00:07] <mparillo_> Probably Kubuntu wire which feeds Planet KDE and Planet Ubuntu.
[02:30] <ahoneybun> damn it KCM
[08:00] <sick_rimmit> Good Morning
[08:04] <Riddell> hola
[08:27] <Tm_T> Riddell: testers factoid updated
[08:27] <Riddell> thanks Tm_T
[08:52] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:05] <Riddell> hola chicos
[09:09] <clivejo> :( I hate Windows, its been installing all night and still only at Installing update 126 of 206
[09:10] <clivejo> thats me put in a bad mood for the day
[09:17] <Riddell> ooh that's bad, I tried to upgrade to windows 8.1 when I got fed up for it telling me too and it took all night and in the morning it said "upgrade failed, will now downgrade" and it took another day to get back to 8.0
[09:17] <soee_> Riddell: looks like ksysguard issue has been fixed
[09:18] <Riddell> soee_: yep it finally transitioned, still waiting on plasma-desktop
[09:18] <soee_> atleast it doesn twant to remove plasma-dekstop  anymore :)
[09:19] <clivejo> I really want to format it and put Kubuntu on it
[09:21] <soee_> nd done :) no errors 
[09:26] <clivejo> is wayland already in wily?
[09:27] <Riddell> clivejo: you know you want to
[09:27] <Riddell> clivejo: there's some wayland bits around but nothing uses it yet, you need the latest kwin from git to do that
[09:27] <clivejo> not my machine though!  It was full of virus'ssssss
[09:36] <clivejo> will wily be based on wayland?
[10:34] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:39] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[10:39] <BluesKaj> hi clivejo
[12:27] <mparillo> ximion: You willing to be the subject of a Kubuntu Wire Post? Do you have any sites you might want mentioned (other than the kubuntu membership application)? If you have a G+ Identity, I can also post a link to that via the Kubuntu G+ account.
[12:29] <ximion> mparillo: you could mention my blog (blog.tenstral.net), on G+ I am +MatthiasKlumpp
[12:42] <soee_> upgraded my development server (web dev) from debian 7 to debian 8 and it works much better i must say :)
[12:49] <soee_> Riddell: each nvidia driver version needs some special configuration to work in sddm >
[12:49] <soee_> *with sddm
[12:56] <ximion> Debian 8 is a gorgeous release :)
[13:44] <BluesKaj> quote, "The Kubuntu team are committed to releasing 15.10 in October. Updates, bug fixes and future releases are currently uncertain." Who wrote tha on the Wily alpha release page.  Seems irresponsible, it's creating speculation and rumours already about Kubuntu's demise.
[14:56] <palasso> BluesKaj: I think Riddell wrote it according to history: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Alpha1/Kubuntu?action=diff&rev2=45&rev1=44
[14:56] <palasso> It's already reported on phoronix
[14:57] <BluesKaj> palasso, yes, thanks for that, I realized that after I posted my remarks
[17:36] <ahoneybun> this link will still be active right? http://kubuntu.org/community
[18:08] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:08] <_Groo_> Riddell: sooo, what is this stuff phoronix is talking about, about kubuntu future?
[18:14] <ahoneybun> hey Etriaph
[18:14] <Etriaph> Hey man
[18:14] <Etriaph> How goes it?
[18:17] <ahoneybun> http://i.imgur.com/QlrYf6D.png
[18:17] <ahoneybun> what do you think Etriaph
[18:18] <Etriaph> Is it a DVD insert?
[18:19] <Etriaph> "Know someone who does not now about Kubuntu?" <-- should be "not know about"
[18:21] <Etriaph> Where it says "Try it. Love it, Share it!" could maybe read "Try it. Love it? Share it!" ?
[18:22] <ahoneybun> opps lol
[18:23] <Etriaph> It's visually appealing, I would suggest (other than the typos) is not using the Ubuntu font for anything but the Kubuntu trademark.  Oxygen Sans is the default KDE font, that would be the choice I'd make to keep the typography distinct between brand and content.
[18:23] <ahoneybun> yes Etriaph it is a DVD
[18:24] <ahoneybun> true, I was thinking about that
[18:25] <Etriaph> Also maybe swap the Kubuntu with the text on the bottom of the two coloured pages so it reads: Kubuntu before the version number, same on the other side with the "Try it. Love it? Share it!"
[18:26] <Etriaph> People tend to put brand names before any other particulars or slogans.
[18:28] <ahoneybun> other then those though, looks good Etriaph?
[18:28] <Etriaph> Yes, sorry if that seems like a list :D
[18:28] <ahoneybun> done. uploading
[18:28] <Etriaph> I've worked with a lot of designers and learned to put their hats on when I needed to.  :D
[18:29] <ahoneybun> nice, Etriaph http://i.imgur.com/gG8mtzP.png
[18:30] <Etriaph> That looks excellent Aaron.
[18:30] <Etriaph> Now to start burning ISOs :D
[18:30] <ahoneybun> thanks
[18:30] <ahoneybun> I just need to make sure of the artwork is being used right
[18:30] <ahoneybun> if I need to put some names on there
[18:31] <ahoneybun> like "Artwork done by KDE Artwork Team" or something
[18:31] <Etriaph> Well, I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to figure out who created the wallpaper for Plasma 5.
[18:32] <Etriaph> And though it's likely released under the CC license, it would be nice of you to acknowledge them
[18:35] <ahoneybun> I do want to acknowledge them
[18:35] <ahoneybun> and don't want people to think for even a second that it is my work
[18:36] <ahoneybun> ScottK: I need some legal advise on this: http://i.imgur.com/gG8mtzP.png
[18:36] <ScottK> Legal advice comes from lawyers.
[18:37] <ScottK> I would replace the word legal with free.
[18:38] <Etriaph> ScottK: Good point.
[18:38] <ahoneybun> free advise then?
[18:38] <ScottK> ahoneybun: You can also link to http://www.kubuntu.org/legal if you want.
[18:39] <ahoneybun> I just want credits to be in the right place
[18:40] <ScottK> OK.  I'd replace legal with free and then add a link to the legal page.
[18:44] <ahoneybun> new version: http://i.imgur.com/URNOW0H.png
[18:52] <ahoneybun> ScottK: is that clear enought for a printing and making of DVD's?
[18:53] <ScottK> Except /legal is more than copyright.
[18:54] <ScottK> I would change legal to free and then just say something like, "For details see [link]."
[18:55] <ahoneybun> oh right
[18:58] <ahoneybun> ScottK: better? http://i.imgur.com/yvisXHN.png
[18:59] <ScottK> Better.  I was thinking about putting the for details bit immediately after free to copy and share.
[18:59] <ScottK> Not at the bottom.
[19:00] <ScottK> Then it's clear what it refers to
[19:00] <ahoneybun> maybe a * to link down to it
[19:03] <ScottK> I would just do it as <a href="http://www.kubuntu.org/legal">details</a>. and not worry about it.
[19:03] <ScottK> No need to actually display the URL.
[19:04] <ahoneybun> this is a dvd cover
[19:04] <ahoneybun> http://i.imgur.com/Met3BdZ.png
[19:13] <ScottK> That works.
[19:13] <ScottK> Didn't realize it was for printed material.
[19:14] <ScottK> Burying the hyperlink works rather less well in print.
[19:31] <ahoneybun> lol
[19:31] <ahoneybun> working on the back now
[19:31] <ahoneybun> ScottK: so it is all good free wise then?
[19:31] <ScottK> I think so.
[19:31] <ScottK> (IANAL and all)
[19:32] <ahoneybun> awesome
[19:33] <ahoneybun> ScottK: I'll bring this up to the rest of the KC then
[19:33] <ScottK> No.  I don't think it's needed.
[19:33] <ahoneybun> oh?
[19:33] <ScottK> The KC is really for resolving disputes and making high level policy decisions.
[19:33] <ScottK> The KC doesn't need to review DVD jacket designs.
[19:34] <ahoneybun> oh ok but is it really just up for me to make the decision?
[19:34] <ScottK> Send a mail to kubuntu-devel and see if anyone objects.
[19:34] <ScottK> Then JFDI.
[19:34] <ahoneybun> jfdi?
[19:34] <ScottK> Just "really" Do It.
[19:35] <ahoneybun> I'm thinking the F stands for something else lol
[19:35] <ScottK> Thus the quotes.
[19:35] <ahoneybun> XD
[19:37] <ahoneybun> snet
[19:37] <ahoneybun> *sent
[20:05] <clivejo> 24hours later and windows 7 is STILL updating!
[20:28] <sgclark> ahoneybun: stick to 15.04 CDs no one at akademy will want kde4
[20:28] <ahoneybun> I saw that
[20:29] <ahoneybun> sgclark: every nonLTS release gets 9months of suppot
[20:29] <ahoneybun> *support 
[20:29] <ahoneybun> not 18 anymore
[20:29] <sgclark> oof ok
[20:29] <ahoneybun> so once 15.10 comes out, users and wait 3 months to move from 15.04
[20:30] <ahoneybun> *can
[20:30] <sgclark> not much we can do, plasma5 will not be backported to trusty. qt5 got to be too much of a hassel.
[20:30] <ahoneybun> oh I see
[20:30] <sgclark> of course 16.04 we will be golden
[20:31] <ahoneybun> that will be a great and awesome releae
[20:31] <ahoneybun> *release
[20:31] <sgclark> yep
[20:34] <ahoneybun> valorie: new DVD artwork: http://imgur.com/a/axpzW
[20:38] <valorie> very nice!
[20:38] <clivejo> ahoneybun: are you putting these on the website for download?  
[20:38] <clivejo> also, why dont you put the url on there too
[20:39] <valorie> clivejo: my sympathies about windows
[20:39] <ahoneybun> clivejo: what what?
[20:39] <valorie> I have to use windows to pay bills, and it is a Major Pain
[20:39] <clivejo> for help, support or a chat visit www.kubuntu.org
[20:39] <clivejo> same here valorie
[20:40] <clivejo> I fix them
[20:40] <clivejo> and all I want to do is put linux on them
[20:40] <valorie> well, this is my husband's computer
[20:40] <clivejo> Im so sick to death of Windows is Updating
[20:40] <valorie> and I don't want to be his computer support
[20:41] <valorie> and if I turn our bill paying stuff into linux, guess who will get stuck paying the bills forever?
[20:41] <valorie> no thanks, he can deal
[20:41] <ahoneybun> valorie: I moved my dad to Kubuntu and I stopped being his support after he left Windows lol
[20:42] <clivejo> Id move my mum to Kubuntu, but I know that the printer doesnt work and thats a big deal for her
[20:42] <ahoneybun> also notice on new artwork that I talk about Muon Discover not the Ubuntu Software Center thing lol
[20:42] <ahoneybun> clivejo: Printer/Scanner/Fax worked for me
[20:42] <clivejo> ahoneybun: so people can download the artwork from kubuntu.org
[20:43] <ahoneybun> clivejo: for the dvd?
[20:43] <clivejo> yes
[20:43] <ahoneybun> not a bad idea really
[20:43] <sgclark> it is the default wallpaper
[20:43] <clivejo> and put the website on the artwork
[20:43] <clivejo> maybe beside the downland iso ?
[20:45] <clivejo> while its downloading, you could be printing the cover :)
[20:45] <sgclark> good idea, for folks that go to conventions unprepared like me!
[20:46] <ahoneybun> lol
[20:46] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: I know your awake
[20:46] <ahoneybun> XD
[20:46]  * ahoneybun pushes that idea to ovidiu-florin and puts it on the trello board
[20:47] <clivejo> wow, windows is finally updated. Two days later after a recover!
[20:47] <ahoneybun> damn
[20:47] <clivejo> 4Gb of updates!
[20:47] <ahoneybun> what...
[20:48] <sgclark> heh, they need point releases lol. Unfortunately you get one CD (if your lucky) and that is it, hense the brutal reinstalls
[20:49] <clivejo> I have a huge upload to mapillary to do, my ISP is gonna love me!
[20:50] <ahoneybun> there you go clivejo
[20:50] <clivejo> thanks ahoneybun
[20:50] <clivejo> is there DVD label art?
[20:50] <ahoneybun> np
[20:51] <ahoneybun> I've yet to do that
[20:51] <ahoneybun> was wondering if I should
[20:51] <ahoneybun> I don't have the design to work with from the Design team
[20:52] <ahoneybun> I would think the DVD cost would go up a lt
[20:52] <ahoneybun> *lot
[20:54] <ahoneybun> clivejo: I'll try to get the template
[20:54] <clivejo> more a personal thing
[20:54] <ahoneybun> true but it would be nice
[20:54] <clivejo> I like to print out labels
[20:55] <ahoneybun> cool
[20:57] <clivejo> whats the best M$ Office alt on Windows?
[20:57] <clivejo> LibreOffice?
[20:57] <ahoneybun> LibreOffice
[20:58] <clivejo> Ill intall that on it ;)
[20:58] <ahoneybun> nice
[20:59] <clivejo> what is the difference between still and fresh?
[20:59] <ahoneybun> I think Still: LTS;  Fresh: non-LTS
[20:59] <ahoneybun> 4.4.3 is a great release
[20:59] <clivejo> thats the fresh one?
[20:59] <clivejo> whats on wily?
[21:00] <clivejo> 4.4.2
[21:02] <ahoneybun> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/libreoffice
[21:02] <ahoneybun> yep
[21:02] <ahoneybun> might need to be repackaged
[21:02] <clivejo> *hides*
[21:06] <valorie> that is one beast to package, that I know
[21:06] <clivejo> I can imagine
[21:08] <clivejo> does Nixie Pixel use Kubuntu?
[21:09] <valorie> I don't follow her often, but I've never seen that
[21:13] <ahoneybun> see often talks about Ubuntu
[21:48] <ahoneybun> valorie: sgclark clivejo http://i.imgur.com/Xa8zBAy.png
[21:48] <clivejo> could you but the colours as a background?
[21:49] <ahoneybun> that is imgur
[21:49] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/a/axpzW
[21:56] <valorie> nice
[21:56] <ahoneybun> :)
[22:00] <clivejo> ahoneybun: I meant something with the colours, like this - http://postimg.org/image/9kq9s9rgh/
[22:00] <clivejo> but away from the blue as its clashing with the gear logo
[22:01] <clivejo> the gear logo around the dvd hole is a nice touch, I likes it a lot
[22:02] <valorie> me too
[22:02] <sgclark> oh neat
[22:03] <clivejo> maybe put the Kubuntu logo at the top, with the full codename in a different font?
[22:18] <clivejo> ahoneybun: something like this? http://s18.postimg.org/ad67q1lyh/Colour_DVD_Label2.png
[22:20] <ahoneybun> I just like one color
[22:20] <ahoneybun> I'll work on some designs for it to look cooler
[23:29] <valorie> perhaps the colors in the background could be dimmed out, or blurred
[23:29]  * valorie needs to go afk again