[02:06] Hello i am using hybryde os === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [04:55] guys, why does okteta freeze on the open file dialog [05:30] anyone? [05:36] glenn_: have you tried launching the application from the commandline, to see if there is anything interesting in the output? [05:39] valorie, It works fine when i run 'sudo okteta' [05:39] although the form is a bit uglier.. [05:39] but works nonetheless [05:39] oh gosh, NEVER run applications as root [05:40] if you have done that, that might make the problem you are having [05:40] and if you *do* have to run as root in a gui app, use `kdesudo` [05:40] no only reason i ran it as root, is because i was getting freezing on the open dialog! [05:41] :( [05:41] why is running gui apps as root bad? [05:41] oh wait, root owning all the files it makes? [05:41] hmm [05:41] not sure how to fix that beyond fixing your whole $HOME [05:41] it changes permissions in your home to root [05:42] this may take many minutes, depending on how big your home is, but you can run `chown -R username folder/` [05:43] which version of kubuntu are you using, glenn_? [05:43] ill give it a whirl, cheers [05:43] 15.04 [05:43] ok, so run that on just ~/.config [05:43] and ~/.local [05:43] that will save a lot of time [05:44] hmm, ‘/home/glenn/.config/QtProject.conf’ is spitting the dummy [05:44] is that something i want to force? [05:45] huh [05:45] sudo $USER:USER chown? [05:45] for starters, ~/ is short for "/home/glenn/" [05:45] I've never used it with sudo [05:46] !chown [05:46] An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [05:46] !info okteta [05:46] okteta (source: okteta): hexadecimal editor for binary files. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:14.12.3-0ubuntu4 (vivid), package size 82 kB, installed size 436 kB [05:46] that isn't much info [05:47] hmm [05:47] I would look in launchpad for recent bugs filed against okteta [05:47] since the chown stuff won't help with your original problem [05:48] !sudo [05:48] sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo [05:48] pkexec? hmmm, I've not seen that [05:48] !pkexec [05:48] pkexec is a PolicyKit tool that allows an authorized user to run (graphical) applications as another user, similar to !gksu. [05:48] here is the bash output of me runnign okteta from terminal [05:48] http://pastebin.com/ZjHRGW8G [05:49] (and open dialog - to freeze) [05:49] there are some interesting lines [05:50] so do you think that you have ever run sudo when you should not have? [05:50] because finding ksycoca5 mentioned is rather suspicious [05:51] most likely.. haha [05:51] but not from memory [05:51] you might try `chown -R me:me .cache/ksycoca5` [05:51] too [05:53] well, glenn:glenn [05:53] not me:me [05:55] hmm, issue persists [05:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okteta/+bug/1455586 [05:57] Ubuntu bug 1455586 in okular (Ubuntu) "Kickoff doesn't Respond, KDE Applications don't Open" [Undecided,New] [05:57] and one more open bug [06:01] sorry valerie, kubuntu froze when i clicked the link.. [06:01] its beign down that alot latley [06:01] random freezes the require reboots [06:01] hmmm [06:01] I'm also running 15.04, + backports [06:01] no freezes, no crashes [06:02] almost boring [06:02] xfce with xubuntu was so stable for me - but kde is so pretty! [06:02] but so unstable for me :/ [06:02] my hardware is more than enough to handle aswell [06:02] might be a wonky driver? [06:03] not sure - when i install nvidia drivers the OS wont boot [06:03] and i have to go into root terminal and purge the drivers === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward === nick is now known as LakeShow === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [08:00] Good Morning === Guest32690 is now known as thelionroars === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === Suomi is now known as jubo2 [08:52] Good morning. === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === adrien_ is now known as Guest51081 [10:34] Hi folks [10:49] Hi, when I try to start HDR luminance or digiKam I get this error /usr/bin/digikam: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libIlmThread.so.6: invalid ELF header .. I tried googling around but can't find anything that would lead me in direction of fixing this. Any ideas ? === juboxi is now known as jubo2 === jose__ is now known as xdm === xdm is now known as ljose [12:13] I have a problem with my dancepad, is it the right place to seek help ? [12:17] Alex__, dancepad? [12:19] It's a FutureMax dancepad [12:19] what Operating System does it run on ? [12:21] Kubuntu [12:21] It works on Windows 7 [12:22] and it worked so far on Kubuntu until the latest update. [12:25] is it software or a device/hardware ? [12:26] It's a device [12:30] i ssume it's connected via usb, so does lsusb show it? [12:31] Yes [12:31] Nonetheless jstest has a strange behaviour, it was not the case before. http://pastebin.com/dvvUy9Qc === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [13:13] hmmmmm, what's going to happen with Kubuntu? -> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Kubuntu-15.10-Worrying-State === thelionroars_ is now known as thelionroars === thelionroars is now known as Guest17832 === Guest17832 is now known as thelionroars === roland is now known as Guest50352 [13:36] hyper_ch, that's just speculation based on Jonathan's departure as the Kubuntu dev leader for one year. He's still active as a developer for Kubuntu. We thnk Kubuntu will carry on past 15.10, That article is just one kid's opinion :-) [13:37] BluesKaj: however 15.10 alpha release notes do mention "The Kubuntu team are committed to releasing 15.10 in October. Updates, bug fixes and future releases are currently uncertain. " [13:39] Esdouzewa, uncertain in who's opinion , the writer's or the developer's? [13:39] until any official statements, just ignore ll this :) [13:40] BluesKaj: that's what I'm seeing in the kubuntu 15.10 alpha 1 download page [13:41] soee, hard to ignore rumours tho, we just have to put up with it [13:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/Alpha1/Kubuntu <- this one [13:59] BluesKaj: but his opinion seems to be rather prominent when he voices it ;) [14:00] * hyper_ch wonders if he should upgrade to wily just have a newer systemd version [14:00] prominent ? only if you think so [14:02] BluesKaj: top 20k visites pages worldwide :) [14:03] interestingly, my most trafficed site ranks 350k worldwide and 163k in india... [14:03] hyper_ch: there is not any performance boost with new systemd if ou think about it [14:03] but the system works just fine [14:03] soee: no, it's regardng openvpn [14:03] * soee is on Wily [14:04] they introduced a feature in 220 which allows to umount network drives before the connection is closed... [14:04] nice for him, but I spend a lot of time with the devs...does he and do the those who visit his site? I don't think so.. He's just speculating based on a mistake on a web page. [14:04] because right now I face a 180 second timeout when powering off [14:05] hyper_ch: ah that is thing i'm not familiar with [14:05] before, I could use the downroot plugin in openvpn but that doesn't seem to work properly anymore with systemd [14:08] my openvpn servers connect fine to this pc which has systemd, but that's not the same as your setup I'm sure [14:08] BluesKaj: no, I mount cifs over the vpn [14:08] and systemd shuts down the vpn connection [14:08] right [14:08] and then tries to umount the cifs [14:08] which it can't because it becomes unresponsive [14:09] but as said, they added new stuff in 220 which should fix that but 15.04 is just 219 [14:09] 220? [14:09] systemd v220 [14:10] oh [14:10] but this weekend I'll have a deeper look at btrfs... setup my homeserver anew last weekend with btrfs.... now I need to learn how to make snapshots and stuff and how to back those up efficiently [14:11] all my rsync-ssh-hardlink-fu will need adjustment :) [14:11] this is my first encounter with systemd, there's lots of controversy, but i works ok so far [14:11] it works [14:11] I still hate it ;) [14:11] sysV was just so simple and beautiful :) [14:12] there must be a good reason for the change [14:13] it's more modern and you can start things in parallel which should speed up things and stuff... [14:13] but I'm set in my old ways ;) [14:14] hmmm, for some strange reason kmail won't update my inbox anymore [14:14] My main gripe is binary logs via journald by default, unless you disable that and install syslog-ng manually. Text logs are critical when trying to fix badly broken systems [14:15] this is bad IMHO [14:15] on KDE 5, some font rendering is really jagged [14:15] nvidia and chrome show them off the best, anyhow know how to fix it? [14:15] otherwise fonts are overall smooth [14:17] TJ-: normal text logs are great... binary logs.... weird [14:17] however if sysd is running it allows you get to nicely the logs for the service yuo want === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [14:19] hyper_ch: The systems I trouble-shoot are mostly dead and I'm working with forensic copies that aren't exectued [14:21] hyper_ch: with binary logs being the default, and needing to work with images containing binary log files with potential corruption/lost data in those files, makes life 10x more difficult [14:21] I agree... as said, displaying logs within systemd is really nice [14:22] how can I access akonadi gui in 15.04? [14:41] anyone know why some fonts in KDE 5 are jagged? it appears they have no aliasing whatsoever whereas fonts overall are smooth? [14:43] which font do you use , vbgunz? [14:44] and check your dpi setting [14:54] hello [14:55] sometimes my desktop/display goes bonkers, such as if plugging/unplugging a second HDMI monitor, or other unpolished scenarios [14:55] what are the definite list of commands to restart KDE / restart X / restart plasma etc ? [14:55] *definitive [15:01] regedit: Well I just took a look at systemctl -a [15:01] which lists a bunch of stuff, might be worth a grep / look through them see if anything looks like its suits [15:02] ricktimmis: ok thanks, will check that [15:12] BluesKaj: pm? [15:13] murthy, ok === Malsasa_ is now known as Malsasa [16:02] halp! my graphical desktop is not loading, which were the files i need to double-check are not owned to root? and where is the sddm config file with like auto-login settings please? [16:04] regedit, can you get to a TTY/VT ? If so run systemctl enable sddm [16:05] BluesKaj: yep i do (that's how i'm on IRC now, via weechat-curses!) [16:05] trying... [16:07] BluesKaj: i am being prompted for my password, and here's something interesting in the output: [16:08] BluesKaj: insserv: fopen(.depend.stop) Permission Denied [16:09] BluesKaj: do i need to do that as sudo? [16:09] oops , probly [16:09] is sudo service sddm restart the same thing? i may have executed that at some point [16:10] regedit, not if you're on 15.04 with systemd [16:11] the command is systemctl instead of service [16:11] BluesKaj: is it bad to do the service version? does it cause unwanted side effects? [16:12] dunno if it will work [16:12] BluesKaj: sudo systemctl restart/enable sddm seems to result in the same effect: all i get is the "starting version 219" steady black screen [16:13] just run sudo systemctl enable sddm [16:13] did, le'me try again... [16:14] BluesKaj: ok it seems to have executed some stuff and showing what seems like successful output [16:15] Synchronizing state for ............ [16:15] Executing ...... sddm defaults [16:15] Executing ...... sddm enable [16:16] you might want to update and upgrade too [16:16] k doing that... [16:17] BluesKaj: done [16:17] there were no updates, if that matters [16:18] upgrades? [16:18] sorry yes no upgrades [16:18] did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [16:19] ok try a reboot [16:19] BluesKaj: k thanks, will BRB if still trouble, thanks! [16:21] BluesKaj: no bacon :( [16:22] no desktop or no sddm ? [16:22] BluesKaj: no desktop, how do i tell about sddm? [16:23] BluesKaj: i had a similar situation the other day and it was because i tried restarting plasma desktop with sudo which made some configs chowned to root [16:24] sddm is your login page [16:24] BluesKaj: i'm pretty sure that's not necessarily the issue this time, but it might be worth double-checking those files to be sure. What configu files are those? [16:24] BluesKaj: the login screen does not show up [16:25] which kubuntu 15.04 or 15.10? [16:25] i think .04... leme check again [16:26] BluesKaj: 15.04 according to cat /etc/*release [16:26] didnt know 15.10 exists [16:27] 15.10 is development. [16:28] ah [16:28] I don't fool with config files unless it's grub or sources.list , the obvious ones that one can edit safely [16:28] where is the sddm config file located? the one with the auto-login settings and such [16:28] ah i hear [16:28] regedit: /etc/sddm.conf [16:28] i'll just have a peek, i won't touch i pwomise! :p [16:29] Was this an oem install? [16:29] That one has trouble removing the oem autologin. [16:29] nope manual from ISO install [16:29] Or is X simply broken? [16:29] well , thjat's your call, but i'm thinking you need to remove lightdm if you still have it installed, there might be a conflict [16:30] worked fine up until earlier where i messed with some of the System Settings > User login stuff (forgot what that control panel icon is called) [16:30] startup & shutdown? [16:31] hm that file looks rather unpopulated compared to how i remember it before i changed settings [16:31] BluesKaj: yes rings a bell [16:31] how does the netcat 9999 thing work again? [16:31] regedit: What is in the sddm log? [16:31] lordievader: where would that be? [16:31] regedit: /var/log/sddm.log or something. [16:32] i see a file ~/.xsession_errors , is that interesting for now? [16:32] hey guys why plasma is not smooth on kubuntu, when I press k button , it show start menu, but escape or click it left with menu [16:32] regedit: Not if you never get the login screen. [16:34] well i'm seeing a bunch of output there, mostly normal/success info but maybe some errors/warnings are hidden in there. How can i paste for you guys the last several hundred lines of it? [16:35] regedit: tail -n 100 |pastebinit [16:35] there was this pipe to nc 9999 something to some paste website [16:35] ah ok [16:35] Pastebinit does all of that for you. [16:35] k thanks [16:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/11779363/ [16:37] last 200 lines of /var/log/sddm.log [16:38] Do you have an /etc/sddm.conf? [16:38] yup http://paste.ubuntu.com/11779371/ [16:38] rather bare, i seem to remember it had more settings in there when i last checked it before i messed with System Settings > Startup & Shutdown [16:39] regedit: Stop sddm, rename that file, start sddm. [16:40] sudo systemctl stop sddm <- like that? [16:40] Yes. [16:40] disable [16:40] oh? [16:40] No need to disable it. [16:40] Just stop it. [16:43] lordievader: i was switched to the F7 session where the last messages are "Starting Terminate Plymouth Boot Screen..." and "Starting wait for Plymouth boot screen to quit..." [16:43] regedit: Err, run the commands from tty 1 or something. [16:44] not sure if it's still hanging there, or successfully complated all operations and simply not rendering anything more to the F7 screen [16:44] lordievader: i did [16:44] regedit: Ok, did sddm start correctly? [16:44] i'm running this weechat-curses from F1 and executing commands in F2 [16:44] start? i was stopping it, i thought... [16:45] 26-18:39 < lordievader> regedit: Stop sddm, rename that file, start sddm. [16:45] didn't proceed with renaming the file yet, i wanted to check whether it's OK based on the last lines of output ^ [16:45] That is not output from your systemctl stop sddm [16:46] though after i executed that command i was switched over to the F7 session and was shown a bunch of startup/shutdown looking outputs with [ OK ] lines etc the last 2 of which were ^^ [16:47] Yeah, doesn't matter. [16:47] ok renaming file now... [16:47] i'm guessing sudo systemctl (re)start sddm [16:48] Just start, yes. [16:48] ok doing... [16:49] lordievader: i'm just landing at that same startup-messages screen with the plymouth stuff (i guess it was just leftover messages from initial bootup or something) [16:52] and i'm not finding *any* /etc/sddm.conf now, was it supposed to create a default one? [16:53] i only see my renamed file there [16:57] regedit: That is okay. Usually there ain't one. But did it start correctly? [16:58] lordievader: what do you mean did it start correctly? i don't have my graphical desktop / login screen if that's what you mean [16:58] i'm still in tty / text land, graphical desktop has yet to show itself [16:59] Yes, that is what I mean. [16:59] regedit: Can you start X manually? [16:59] lordievader: what might be the command for that please [17:00] lordievader: what about starting plasmashell, would that be helpful at this point? [17:00] regedit: Stop X/sddm first, then /usr/bin/X [17:00] Plasmashell is later, unless you skip the sddm problem. But I wouldn't be surprised if they are related. [17:01] lordievader: just run /usr/bin/X ? with trailing ampersand to run on its own? with/out sudo? [17:02] Failed to stop X.service: Unit X.service not loaded. [17:02] No, in the foreground. Only use sudo if you get a permission denied. [17:02] soee: how happy are you with wily? [17:04] hyper_ch: same as i was with Vivid :) [17:04] soee: how many hairs left? [17:04] lordievader: getting a black screen with a single steady underscore [17:05] :) [17:05] lordievader: this one doesnt even seem to be the F7 session...unless i just dont understand how this all works [17:05] hyper_ch: it works just fine :) [17:05] soee: hmmm, I wonder, with btrfs snapshotting... shouldn't you be able to upgrade to wily... and if you don't like it just restore the snapshot? [17:06] that i dont know [17:06] regedit: That is good, it means X works ;) [17:06] soee: I'm just dabbling with btrfs a bit [17:06] looks good except for apt usage [17:06] regedit: Under root, or as a user? [17:07] lordievader: as my user [17:07] soee: can you check which systemd version you've got? [17:07] hyper_ch: i never used it :) [17:07] soee: systemd --version [17:07] regedit: Allright. Run in in the background and see if you can start kde (simply run 'startkde'). [17:08] lordievader: $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server [17:08] lordievader: holy crap i have something to say about that [17:09] lordievader: in my last yet-working session (before i rebooted and no desktop worked) i was testing/trying out some things [17:09] regedit: DISPLAY=:0 startkde [17:09] ;) [17:10] lordievader: one of the things that i tried (based on a askubuntu answer) was something like: DISPLAY=:0 kwin --replace [17:10] the command failed though [17:10] but maybe it had some permanent side effect? [17:10] lordievader: ok trying that.. [17:12] lordievader: ok the output seems to indicate success of some sort, but where is the session? i can't see the desktop, it's not at F7 either [17:14] regedit: It should be, if that is where X:0 is running. [17:14] lordievader: it seems to still be just showing those startup messages, no graphic desktop yet... [17:14] lordievader: shall i reboot? have i fixed the issue(s)? [17:15] Hmm... Perhaps. [17:15] ok trying, brb... [17:15] should i un-rename /etc/sddm.conf ? [17:16] regedit: No, leave that as is. [17:16] ok rebooting... [17:18] lordievader: no bacon yet.. [17:18] regedit: What is the output of 'lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA'? [17:19] (sure wish i knew how to do Copy/Paste in here...) ok trying [17:20] regedit: Pastebinit or tmux ;) [17:20] Or screen ;) [17:21] paste.ubuntu.com/11779585 i was referring to copying the commands from weechat-curses to tty [17:21] ah tmux was the other paste site i was referring to (the one with port 9999 or something) [17:21] Tmux is a paste site? [17:22] Tmux is a terminal multiplexer. [17:22] or something no? doesnt it produce a URL? [17:22] oh nevermind then, they might both begin with a T and i'm remembering wrong [17:22] Oeh, two graphics cards -.- [17:22] Do you have that prime stuff installed? [17:22] nvidia? i think [17:23] the funny thing is - this was all working just fine for days now, up until few hrs ago... [17:23] So what did you do? [17:23] when i messed with kwin commands and suto-login settings and such [17:23] *auto-login [17:23] regedit: discreite gpu? [17:24] i was tryin to learn various commands for restarting graphics in case things go bad (which happens a bunch for example if i plug/unplug my external HDMI monitor) [17:24] sithlord48: i have both intel embedded and GeForce 610M [17:24] nvidia properitay driver? [17:25] sithlord48: Yes, see his latest paste. [17:25] i have the ubuntu 346-updates version selected [17:25] Ubuntu bug 346 in conglomerate (Ubuntu) "Does not contain a .desktop file" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346 [17:25] your hotswap display issues are mostly likley releated to the properitary driver. [17:25] i hear [17:26] you should use in your /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup your xrandr command if your having issues w display [17:26] use nvidia-settings when you remove or add a display or manually edit your xorg.conf [17:27] i have never yet touched any xorg.conf (knowingly anyway) [17:27] unforutnately the nvidia driver doesn't play to nice with xrandr because its using xorg mostly [17:27] if you have the nvidia driver it makes one for you [17:27] i see [17:28] so as i was saying, i was trying to get familiar with commands such as systemctl restart sddm (or as some other website put it; service sddm restart, which may not have been the best way of doing it?) [17:28] all that is going todo is restart sddm [17:28] it willnot change your xsettings [17:29] and then i tried this DISPLAY=:0 kwin --replace, which resulted in an error about no 'kwin' command or something [17:29] what version are you using > ? it might be kwin_x11 now [17:29] then i messed with some System Settings > startup & shutdown stuff, like auto login and perhaps something else [17:29] after reboot, no graphical desktop :( [17:30] well what did you mess with ? [17:30] sithlord48: yes i do see a kwin_x11 command [17:30] this will get your window manager running.. [17:30] regedit, using nvidia-prime ? [17:30] sithlord48: don't remember by heart... some stuff in that control panel related to session log in and startup/shutdown... [17:31] ah something about saving open windows or restarting a new session each time [17:31] not gonna break your login..] [17:31] do u just get a black screen when you log in ? can you see a cursor? [17:31] BluesKaj: i might have a package like that installed, not sure if i am "using" it though [17:31] are you using plasma5? [17:31] sithlord48: yes plasma5 [17:32] try rm -r ~/.cache [17:32] NOT AS ROOT [17:32] it seems that the F7 session screen just hangs or something. If i try to switch to alt + F7 now, i just keep seeing my current tty screen except unresponsive [17:32] sithlord48: ok trying that... [17:32] regedit, you have a hybrid gpu system with 2 gpus , correct ? [17:32] ummm is kubunt not starting on tty1? as systemd likes? [17:33] BluesKaj: not sure what you mean by "hybrid" in this case [17:33] BluesKaj: yes he has a intel and Nvida card [17:33] one gpu runs on lighter loads and switches to the nvidia for heavier usage like videos and games [17:34] sithlord48: not sure how that would express itself, i would usually see the splash screen and then start seeing the desktop logon screen and finally reach desktop. now i see splash, then "starting version 219" forever black screen [17:34] ah interesting [17:34] so you get a crash of X after you log in ? not a black desktop w/ a cursor? [17:35] i'm not sure it's necessarily after log in, in fact the last thing i did was diable auto login [17:35] do you see the login screen? [17:35] nope, nothing graphical (other than initial splash screen) succeeds to render at all, everything remains in text land [17:36] the one that says "kubuntu" [17:36] seems that X doesn't choose a gpu after login if X isn't runniong [17:36] WAIT WTFFF [17:36] i just switched to F7 just now, it's there!! [17:37] i need to reboot to see this again for myself... [17:37] so X is running after all :-) [17:37] so do u get a log or your desktop on tty7? [17:37] * login * [17:37] i saw the graphical log in screen, logged in, and reached my desktop [17:38] after removing your .cache? [17:38] i wanna reboot to make sure this is now working as expected [17:38] no i didnt even do that [17:38] odd [17:38] very [17:38] i switched to F7 countless times earlier... [17:38] seemed just frozen / hanging, but now it's suddenly there [17:39] rebooting, brb... thanks a lot guys! [17:41] herm [17:41] same situation after reboot... [17:42] it's like, graphical desktop takes 15 minutes to start up successfully, or something... [17:42] right now (Ctrl +) Alt + F7 is back to hanging [17:44] if you start and stop sddm what happens? [17:44] trying.. [17:44] wait what - in that order? [17:44] well stop it first if its running [17:44] how do i know if it's running [17:45] well you can ps -A | grep sddm [17:45] yep i see 3 entries there [17:45] sddm sddm-helper sddm-greeter [17:46] so your login screen is up then on tty7? [17:47] theoretically perhaps, but when i switch to it - i get nothing. i just keep seeing what i see at tty1 (where i am right now) except frozen/hanging [17:47]