[07:00] <dholbach> good morning
[07:44] <davidcalle> Morning all o/
[11:02] <popey> Hm, Can apps prevent shell rotation, or request that they not be rotatable?
[11:02] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/sudoku-app/+bug/1465453 for example.
[11:02] <Elleo> popey: yeah, they need to set it in their .desktop file
[11:02] <popey> Thinking this app should stay portrait only
[11:02] <popey> oh, excellent.
[11:02] <popey> is this documented somewhere
[11:02] <popey> ?
[11:03] <Elleo> popey: X-Ubuntu-Supported-Orientations=portrait
[11:03] <popey> sweet, thanks
[11:03] <Elleo> no problem
[13:00] <karni> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this example shouldn't say in both PageHeadState's "head: searchPage.head", should it?
[13:00] <karni> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04/Ubuntu.Components.PageHeadState/
[13:46] <nik90> karni: it should
[13:47] <nik90> karni: the head property is used to indicate which page head it belongs to. I have had some failures when not declaring that.
[13:47] <karni> nik90: yes, thank you (managed to arrive at that conclusion :) )
[13:47] <nik90> :)
[13:47] <karni> the example also says "Click the icon", and there's none :D? and id: headerState (whereas the default one has no id, and is also sort of header state)
[13:48] <karni> oh, the search icon, nvm :) coolio.
[13:48] <nik90> yeah the header button icon ;)
[14:47] <balloons> mhall119, I need to review https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/developer-ubuntu-com/add-autopilot-scopes-docs/+merge/262859 yes?
[14:51] <mhall119> balloons: I think dholbach is reviewing it already
[14:53] <dpm> balloons, did the question about clock tests failing in trunk get resolved?
[14:55] <balloons> dpm, no, good point. I should ping nik90 again
[14:55] <balloons> mhall119, perfect, I'll leave it
[14:55] <nik90> balloons, dpm: I'm here
[14:55] <balloons> I'd like to get that up today so I can unleash the docs and posts
[14:56] <nik90> balloons, dpm: I still to need to read up on the email about the clock app test. Sry, been busy with weather app this week.
[14:57] <dpm> balloons, also, thanks to bartosz, Calculator now uploads correctly to the daily PPA
[14:57] <dpm> np, thanks nik90!
[15:00] <balloons> ahh yes, the ppa uploads
[15:22] <nik90> oh yeah ... https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-weather-app/finish-listitem-migration/+merge/263136   ..... around 700 lines of code removed..always love these kind of MPs ;)
[15:50] <davmor2> popey: whats the magic ppa to install the coreapps please
[15:50] <davmor2> on desktop
[15:50] <popey> google core apps ppa daily
[15:50] <popey> you'll find it :)
[15:50] <davmor2> popey: ta
[16:36] <davmor2> popey: so music-app works but reminders-app and calendar-app both fail to open :(
[16:37] <davmor2> popey: Music does look lovely though :)
[16:41] <popey> davmor2: on what desktop?
[16:41] <davmor2> popey: yeap
[16:41] <popey> no, thats not an answer
[16:41] <popey> what desktop?
[16:41] <popey> unity7 1504, unity8.. click.. snappy?
[16:41] <davmor2> popey: amd64 vivid
[16:42] <popey> any errors in ~/.cache/upstart/usual place?
[16:42] <popey> might need a bug filing so we can track it.
[16:42] <popey> thanks for testing
[16:43] <popey> hey mihir
[16:43] <davmor2> not testing I had no calendar app on my laptop so thought oh there is that ppa to install the phone app I'll grab that :)
[16:43] <mihir> hey popey
[16:44] <popey> oh, you left a comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1466667/+merge/262763 ...
[16:45] <mihir> yeah, anyway I'll chuck mine and accept his :) doesn't make much difference
[16:45] <popey> hehe
[16:46] <popey> be good to land it
[16:49] <davmor2> popey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11779423/ trying from the terminal I get this no errors in the .cache though
[16:52] <popey> is this a clean install of vivid?
[16:53] <davmor2> popey: it was when vivid was released yes
[17:41] <mihir> popey: done
[17:42]  * popey hugs mihir 
[17:42] <popey> thanks mihir !
[17:42] <mihir> :D
[17:56] <nik90> popey: did media-hub playlist support land?
[17:56] <nik90> I just read the community update email by dpm
[17:56] <popey> nik90: initial version is in silo 38
[17:59] <davmor2> popey: how old is the dekko in that ppa?
[17:59] <nik90> popey: oh wow .. can't believe I missed that ;)
[18:02] <nik90> Elleo: this might just be it ;) ^^^ media-hub playlist support
[18:04] <Elleo> nik90: awesome :)
[18:15] <Elleo> anyone know anything about push notifications? I'm setting both the "actions" parameter and the "persist" parameter but neither seem to have any effect
[18:16] <popey> Elleo: DanChapman does I think
[18:17] <Elleo> popey: okay, thanks
[18:18] <popey> davmor2: very old
[18:18] <popey> DanChapman: also, do you have a more up to date ppa for dekko?
[18:23] <DanChapman> Elleo are you setting the "actions" parameter as an array? That one caught me out.
[18:23] <DanChapman> popey: no i don't have an up to date ppa. might be worth sorting that out again at some point
[18:23] <Elleo> DanChapman: yeah
[18:24] <Elleo> DanChapman: this is what I'm sending: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11779882/
[18:24] <Elleo> DanChapman: I'm especially surprised that persist doesn't work, since that'd seem pretty unambigious
[18:24] <Elleo> instead I just get a transitory pop-up and nothing else
[18:25] <Elleo> emblems also don't work either when set, but I'm less concerned about that
[18:28] <DanChapman> hmm strange that looks ok to me. Although i don't think i managed to get appid:// to work for the action, and instead went with a custom handler dekko://
[18:29] <DanChapman> Elleo, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpniel/dekko/devel/view/head:/src/app/Notifications/PostalServiceWorker.cpp is where I create the push message in dekko if that's of any help.
[18:29] <Elleo> DanChapman: thanks, will take a look
[18:37] <Elleo> DanChapman: sorted it :) both problems were caused by me having the wrong appid, it should have been com.mikeasoft.podbird_Podbird not com.mikeasoft.podbird_podbird (capital P)
[18:39] <Elleo> and that was also the cause of the emblem counter not showing up
[18:39] <DanChapman> Elleo \o/ awesome
[18:39] <DanChapman> I'm yet to get sound to work though
[18:40] <Elleo> DanChapman: are you supplying the mp3 with your app? that'd be my guess, I haven't tried using that though (don't really want sounds for this)
[18:40] <popey> ahayzen: hide! nik90 and Elleo want to steal your lovely playlist goodness!
[18:40] <Elleo> heh
[18:41] <ahayzen> hahahha good luck!
[18:41]  * ahayzen pretends that that audio side works perfectly :-)
[18:41] <popey> Ruh Roh
[18:42] <ahayzen> but the UI side is all working really nicely :-) so far
[18:43] <davmor2> ahayzen: don't make out like it doesn't or I'll set jhodapp on you ;)
[18:43] <DanChapman> Elleo, i've tried supplying it and just setting "sound": true which the docs say should play a default sound. I need to check the source to see if it wants the file in a specific standard path or something
[18:43] <Elleo> DanChapman: also, double check you're not in silent mode :P
[18:43] <Elleo> DanChapman: beyond that I have no idea I'm afraid
[18:43] <jhodapp> davmor2, lol
[18:44] <Elleo> nik90, popey: http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/notification-test.png http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/emblem-test.png \o/ (just a pre-constructed test update from the server so far, still need to get it parsing all the podcast feeds to generate genuine updates)
[18:45] <davmor2> jhodapp: man don't laugh people won't take me seriously when I threaten them with you ;)
[18:45] <davmor2> jhodapp: is silo38 building?
[18:45] <ahayzen> davmor2, hehe
[18:46] <nik90> Elleo: awesome..btw we will need a monochrome icon of Podbird to show in the indicator-messages
[18:46]  * ahayzen senses many evenings of testing ahead
[18:46] <davmor2> ahayzen: haha :P
[18:46] <ahayzen> we are only changing the actual part the plays audio of a music-app you know nothing important :-)
[18:47] <nik90> Elleo: btw is this all server code or client code?
[18:47] <jhodapp> davmor2, haha, it is already built
[18:47] <davmor2> ahayzen: I repeat "HAHA"
[18:47] <Elleo> nik90: yeah, no idea how to specify a different app icon, but I expect karni will know from telegram
[18:47] <nik90> jhodapp: can we expect your silo 38 for vivid ... in other words for OTA-5?
[18:47] <davmor2> jhodapp: Silo ready to build
[18:48] <jhodapp> nik90, trying for it
[18:48] <Elleo> nik90: bit of both, some client code to let the server know what its notification token is and register it with a specific user, and a little notification helper; then most of the actual json generation happens on the server and gets sent off to the push server
[18:48] <jhodapp> davmor2, it was built once by Mirv...I haven't changed it since then
[18:49] <davmor2> jhodapp: oh no wonder it's a wily silo
[18:49] <jhodapp> yeah
[18:49] <nik90> davmor2: look at you nicely mocking up for all the testing that needs to be done...may be we should get the QA to do it for us :PPPPP
[18:49] <nik90> s/up/us
[18:50] <davmor2> nik90: No we get it afterwards :P
[18:50] <nik90> davmor2: hmm true
[18:51] <nik90> Elleo: I will ask kevin for that icon and send it to you .. should be quite easy to make it.
[18:52] <nik90> ahayzen: I did have a look at your branch but its too many changes for me to make out anything ;) .. . I will have to resort to checking the Qt Multimedia documentation for it
[18:52] <ahayzen> nik90, and its not finished/working :-) ... and pre-victor QA
[18:52] <karni> nik90: anything I can help with?
[18:53] <nik90> karni: Elleo and I would like to know how to show a monochrome icon in the messaging indicator when you get a push notification.
[18:53] <karni> oh, indicator message
[18:53] <karni> 1 sec
[18:53] <nik90> karni: Elleo is adding push notification support for Podbird!
[18:54] <nik90> ahayzen: ah yes the victor QA ;)
[18:54] <karni> I have this in cmakelists:
[18:54] <karni> CMakeLists.txt:set(APP_SYMBOLIC_ICON "images/telegram_symbolic.svg")
[18:54] <karni> I also see this:
[18:54] <karni> telegram.desktop.in:X-Ubuntu-SymbolicIcon=./images/telegram_symbolic.svg
[18:54] <Elleo> nik90: cool, thanks
[18:54] <Elleo> karni: awesome, thanks
[18:54] <nik90> Elleo: ^^
[18:54] <karni> yw :)
[18:54] <nik90> karni: thnx
[19:09] <popey> Elleo: oooh
[19:09] <popey> Elleo: so is that "there are new episodes available"?
[19:09] <popey> oh man, you could also do "You liked, this, here's other shows you might like"
[19:09] <popey> probably
[19:09] <Elleo> popey: yeah, that's also planned; I based the server  on the GNU FM code specifically so I could easily reuse the recommendation engine I wrote for that :)
[19:09] <popey> Sweet!
[19:11] <Elleo> popey: and then I can use my powers for evil by getting it to always suggest my own podcasts to everyone ;)
[19:35] <SturmFlut> Is anybody here using OSMScout?
[19:44] <bogdan_> Is there any way to use the `Design` tab of `Qt Creator` when developing Ubuntu Phone applications?
[19:47] <bogdan_> All I'm seeing in the `Design` tab is a bunch of errors: `Errors while reading typeinfo files:` ...
[19:48] <bogdan_> do you folks usually use that feature of the IDE?
[19:53] <SturmFlut> bogdan_: No, the "Design" tab is even supposed to be disabled when developing for Ubuntu
[19:53] <SturmFlut> popey: Ping
[19:53] <popey> pong
[19:53] <SturmFlut> popey: Didn't somebody take one of Simon Tatham's games and port it for Ubuntu?
[19:54] <SturmFlut> popey: Or was that my imagination
[19:54] <popey> Robert Ancell looked at them
[19:54] <popey> dunno if he ported any
[19:54] <bogdan_> SturmFlut: thanks
[19:54] <bogdan_> SturmFlut: I wish I had aked this yesterday
[19:55] <bogdan_> *asked
[19:57] <SturmFlut> popey: I remember a screenshot I think, but I don't see anything in the store
[20:00] <popey> SturmFlut: https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.developer.robert-ancell.mines
[20:05] <SturmFlut> popey: That was already on the last list
[20:05] <popey> ah
[20:57] <mcphail> Can anyone running vivid+overlay test a .click for me to see if it runs in landscape mode?
[21:01] <nik90> mcphail: sure
[21:02] <mcphail> nik90: thanks - http://themcphails.uk/pong.njmcphail_0.1_armhf.click
[21:02] <mcphail> nik90: the game isn't functional, but just want to see if rotation works
[21:04] <SturmFlut> My understanding is that the Ubuntu messaging framework is based on Telepathy, which means that all the existing instant messaging services (like XMPP or ICQ) could be easily used as backends on the device. Is that correct?
[21:04] <SturmFlut> popey: ^^
[21:08] <nik90> mcphail: https://imgur.com/a/VulTh#2
[21:09] <nik90> mcphail: it does force the phone to go to landscape mode
[21:10] <mcphail> nik90: but doesn't get past splash screen?
[21:10] <nik90> mcphail: it does, but the whole background is transparent...I barely see the ball and the slider moving
[21:11] <nik90> mcphail: if you look at https://imgur.com/a/VulTh#1, you will see your app running
[21:12] <mcphail> aah - some progress at least. Cheers!
[21:13] <nik90> ;)
[21:18] <mcphail> wonder if this is another manifestation of bug 1460149 ?
[22:05] <SturmFlut> Update time! http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/2015/06/27/ubuntu-app-scope-wishlist-june-2015/