[13:43] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: ping
[15:52] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: pong me when you're around, I have DVD artwork/examples for you
[17:06] <ahoneybun> hello
[17:06] <ahoneybun> pong mhall119
[17:06] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: try this link, see if it downloads a .zip https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/593daaf28e858d408453ca315288dda420150625113440/78136ef8ed702526ea9a14efeda98be920150625113440/774420
[17:06] <ahoneybun> I thought I was CC'd
[17:07] <mhall119> they're PDFs, so I don't know how easy/useful they will be, but it's what Canonical uses to print
[17:08] <ahoneybun> I see
[17:08] <ahoneybun> downloading now
[17:08] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: if you need more than that, let me know
[17:09] <ahoneybun> thanks michael
[17:10] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: I'm trying to get price estimates now, to see if we should just pre-print a whole bunch and give them out on request, or print them on a per-request basis
[17:10] <ahoneybun> awesomeness
[17:11] <ahoneybun> I would like to have some for akademy but I know with the timeslot left it might be a pipe dream
[17:17] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: good point, I'll ask about lead-time on printing them too
[17:19] <ahoneybun> why no svgs...
[17:19] <ahoneybun> and sizes
[17:19] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to design around their red marks
[17:49] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: I think as long as your proportions are correct and it's a high enough resolution, we'll be fine
[17:50] <mhall119> the design team are mac-addicts, so I might be able to get you PSD files, but not SVG
[17:52] <ahoneybun> Mac's really?
[17:52] <ahoneybun> what th
[17:52] <ahoneybun> very similar to business cards then
[17:56] <mhall119> ahoneybun_: yeah, they were trained on macs, had all their experience on macs, and they were hired to make designs not specifically to use FOSS tools
[18:00] <Nothing_Much> psd files?
[18:00] <ahoneybun> mhall119:  I have a sample
[18:01] <Nothing_Much> agh, photoshop
[18:01] <ahoneybun> mhall119: http://imgur.com/QlrYf6D
[18:03] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun, Every argument that I hear is that FOSS tools aren't up to par with proprietary tools like Adobe garbage
[18:03] <ahoneybun> Nothing_Much: I made that with GIMP so I beg to differ :)
[18:03] <mhall119> Nothing_Much: I doubt that's true, it's more likely that the tools you are familiar with *feel* more capable than new ones
[18:04] <Nothing_Much> People hate change I guess, and since GIMP has a reputation of "not being as good as Photoshop"... too many crazies in software.
[18:04] <mhall119> ahoneybun: looks good, do you need to get these designs approved by the rest of Kubuntu before we get them printed?
[18:04] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to get options
[18:04] <ahoneybun> opinion
[18:05] <Nothing_Much> Phoronix says that Kubuntu 15.10 might be the end of the line for Kubuntu or something..
[18:05] <ahoneybun> riddell tells me that we can use the artwork from KDE Design team
[18:06] <ahoneybun> mhall119: might want to put a tag saying about the team that did the artwork
[18:06] <ahoneybun> Nothing_Much: link please
[18:06] <Nothing_Much> http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Kubuntu-15.10-Worrying-State man hexchat's annoying
[18:07] <mhall119> ahoneybun: it's up to you guys how close you want to be to KDE design and how much you want to use your own branding
[18:07] <ahoneybun> mhall119: I know but their artwork is amazing :_
[18:07] <ahoneybun> :)
[18:08] <Nothing_Much> Anything that resembles the Ubuntu circle of friends icon is amazing
[18:08] <Nothing_Much> logo*
[18:08] <mhall119> ahoneybun: I know, but if other distros are using it too, it might not be obvious at a glance (say, walking by a booth at a conference) that it's a Kubuntu DVD
[18:08] <ahoneybun> it has the Logo and wordmark on it
[18:08] <mhall119> if nobody else is using it, and KDE is okay with Kubuntu using it (not sure how they feel about their trademarks used this way)
[18:08] <mhall119> then it would be okay
[18:09] <ahoneybun> mhall119: I'll ask around
[18:09] <mhall119> ahoneybun: sounds good, as long as KDE and Kubuntu are happy with it, so am I
[18:09] <ahoneybun> awesome, I'll grab some opinions and legal advise before hand
[18:10] <mhall119> ahoneybun: also need to decide if you guys want DVDs for the latest release, or just the latest LTS
[18:10] <ahoneybun> well that design has the latest on it, and the artwork is from Plasma5 so
[18:10] <ahoneybun> let me talk to them first
[18:10] <mhall119> for now you probably want the latest, since it has Plasma 5, but at 16.04 it might make sense to just print a lot more of those
[18:11] <ahoneybun> yea a LTS of course
[18:11] <ahoneybun> but we'll see once we get to 15.10
[18:11] <mhall119> yup
[19:39] <ahoneybun> mhall119: http://imgur.com/a/axpzW
[19:44] <mhall119> ahoneybun: looks good, remember you can put something inside the sleeve too if you want (IIRC, the Ubuntu DVDs put the animal logo inside)
[19:45] <ahoneybun> yea but the vivid one is not the best
[19:45] <mhall119> ahoneybun: you can always put a big Kubuntu logo inside
[19:45] <ahoneybun> right
[19:49] <ahoneybun> I've sent a email to the -devel ML about it and waiting for replys
[19:49] <ahoneybun> should have a decision by the end of the day mhall119
[19:49] <mhall119> ahoneybun: cool, it'll probably take me longer than that to get cost estimates
[19:50] <ahoneybun> of course
[19:50] <ahoneybun> but the design is the longest part
[19:50] <ahoneybun> btw this was all made in GIMP mhall119 :)
[19:50] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/a/axpzW
[19:50] <ahoneybun> new back
[20:54] <ahoneybun> mhall119: can I get the DVD label art as well?
[21:00] <mhall119> ahoneybun: wasn't that in there?
[21:01] <ahoneybun> correct sorry
[21:27] <ahoneybun> mhall119: think it would be possiable to get a few (like 10) in another language?
[21:41] <mhall119> ahoneybun: small runs will be more expensive, I don't think less than 100 of anything will be worth it
[21:42] <ahoneybun> maybe 150 english ones and we'll put the source files on the Kubuntu website for users in LoCo to easily translate
[21:42] <ahoneybun> or ask Canonical to make them later
[22:02] <mhall119> ahoneybun: definitely put the source files online, that way people could even just print their own