[19:44] zequence: I forgot to mention. Generally many of our users end up trying to build an application they have downloaded from somewhere. The biggest stumbling block I have seen is that they need the Jackd includes, but trying to install the most obvious package, libjack-dev, tries to uninstall all the jack reliant packages. I think it makes sense to just include libjack-jackd2-dev as part of the distro. [19:45] zequence: it may even make sense (if debian maintainers are willing) to just include the dev stuff as part of the main package. [19:46] zequence: The other problem I am starting to see, is that jackd2 seems to have stopped development and all the new stuff is getting added to jackd1. Not sure where to go with this one.