[15:43] <Roguehorse> switched 'back' from Debian 7 to Kubuntu 14.04........I'm happier
[15:43] <ianorlin> I haven't used kde much it has too many desktop effects on out of the box for me
[15:45] <nhaines> I'm much happier with Unity.
[16:19] <Roguehorse> I like Unity and have a desire to use it but the experience I got from trying to use it via VM turned me off to full deployment.......I try to cut back on a lot of the KDE eye candy stuff
[16:20] <akk> Early versions of unity managed to have eye candy graphics card requirements without the actual eye candy. May be different now.
[16:23] <nhaines> Unity works fine in a VM with the virtual extensions.  But it does require 3D acceleration.
[16:30] <ianorlin> I only use kvm for vms and found unity ok in a vm but that is probably because this desktop is beefy
[16:31] <ianorlin> even though it is not full 3d accelartion but a new desktop i5 will run it well enough but most people don't have something that good
[17:53] <Roguehorse> I have an older i5 (Lynnfield architecture) but I'm thinking my problem may have been neuvau related
[17:54] <akk> I always had trouble getting it to work under virtualbox, but that might have been the 127 different packages virtualbox is split into, I might have been missing the crucial one.
[17:54] <ianorlin> ah yeah although running vms without hardware virtualization is like night and day difference to having it
[17:55] <ianorlin> lxde doesn't really care about gpu accelaration
[17:55] <akk> Right, that's one reason I prefer openbox.
[17:56] <akk> Nice to have it when I run google earth or tuxracer, but that's a small part of my computing.