[00:01] <Elion> hi, i just installed an ubuntu 15.04 with this setup : /boot on local sda drive, / on distant iscsi drive, how can i get this to boot ?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> musclez: See: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/125380 . But I do have reservations as we do not have a kernel installed .
[00:02] <Elion> (i mean how to make grub mount the iscsi on boot)
[00:02] <ikonia> musclez: is there a reason you are ignoring the quick/easy solution here ?
[00:03] <beardman> did you have grub installation errors running the setup?
[00:04] <Elion> beardman: not at all, and grub is loading fine, but it doesn't load the kernel and give me a prompt with initram
[00:05] <allizom> also how is it that I can run startx from a tty and get a full-resolution desktop, only I can't see the top bar and the dash? Is that consistent with a video drivers issue?
[00:06] <Elion> beardman: when i boot, i get : gave up waiting for root device
[00:11] <Bashing-om> musclez: A hint of what is going on ' cat /etc/group | grep amavis ' Bet amavis is not in the group .
[00:15] <michael_p> hi
[00:17] <michael_p> is there away to restore my main menu
[00:19] <bazhang> michael_p, mintmenu?
[00:19] <michael_p> yeah in xubuntu
[00:19] <michael_p> the application menu
[00:19] <bazhang> michael_p, you mean reset the panels?
[00:20] <michael_p> yep back to default
[00:21] <bazhang> Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel  michael_p
[00:21] <michael_p> i deleted the app menu
[00:21] <michael_p> by mistake
[00:22] <michael_p> um start menu
[00:22] <xangua> right click, add, whisker menu
[00:24] <michael_p> great thanks
[00:28] <Elion> hi, i just installed an ubuntu 15.04 with this setup : /boot on local sda drive, / on distant iscsi drive, when i try to boot grub doesn t mount the iscsi drive so i get an error on boot : gave up waiting for root device
[00:29] <Elion> how can i make grub mount the iscsi disk first ?
[00:30] <mgolisch> did you add the needed ISCSI vars to the kernel cmdline?
[00:39] <Elion> mgolisch: can you give me those ?
[00:40] <michael_p> i suppose 15:10 is not far away and will they start working on 16
[00:41] <bnrf> michael_p: The model is online if you want to be accurate
[00:43] <testnick123> hey. I have a question. Did debian altered the tcp iip stack of linux?
[00:43] <testnick123> with new releases
[00:44] <xangua> ask #debian ¿
[00:45] <west536457640> evening all, you know when your screen goes dark after a period of inactivity (cos of power management or screensaver or whatever causes it)
[00:46] <west536457640> is there a log file somewhere that records which program/setting/daemon or whatever triggered it
[00:47] <west536457640> because on ubuntu 14.04 running lxde it is ignoring all my attempts to set it up so i think something must be overriding it
[00:49] <allizom> Elion: maybe you need the rootdelay option? you can try setting rootdelay=90 in the GRUB menu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#Key_Points_About_Terminal_Menu_Editing:
[00:49] <west536457640> or is there a master setting someplace cos it is driving me nuts to have my laptop screen go dark every 5 minutes and not being able to change it
[00:54] <michael_p>  why not call 16:04 human friendship
[00:54] <michael_p> or human friends
[00:55] <Elion> allizom: it's not a wait pb, it's due to the grub not mounting iscsi target at all
[00:57] <allizom> Elion: I would try before drawing conclusions, that said, do as you want. It's not a permanent change anyway
[00:57] <bnrf> Elion: Not something I've done, however fstab is part of this.
[00:58] <bnrf> not seen mantion is all
[00:58] <bnrf> e*
[00:58] <xfburn> здравейте можете ли да ми помогнете имам убунту 14.04 но когато пускам клипчета с програмата  webcamstudio презз сайт с флаш плеър има картина но който гледа не чува звука а при мен има звук ?
[00:58] <bazhang> !ru | xfburn
[00:59] <xfburn> thanksss
[01:11] <Bray90820> why would file print not work from a pdf but "lpr file.pdf" works
[01:15] <bodhi_zazen> Bray90820, what are you using to view / print the .pdf ?
[01:15] <bodhi_zazen> some pdf viewers seem to have bugs
[01:16] <Bray90820> Adobe reader
[01:18] <ki7rw> i'm unable to execute dpkg which is preventing me from upgrading packages with synaptic or apt-get - i've unable to reinstall dpkg and it doesn't seem to exist on my system - unless someone has a better idea i'm going to do a fresh install of 14.01
[01:20] <bodhi_zazen> ki7rw, unless you can tell us what you did to get this problem -> reinstall
[01:21] <cubensys> hey guys got a problem
[01:21] <bodhi_zazen> change system permissions ? Not using sudo ? removed something ?
[01:21] <ki7rw> i have no idea what caused this - maybe the xorg-edgers ppa?
[01:21] <bodhi_zazen> cubensys, state your question
[01:21] <cubensys> some time ago my machine quit on life during a sotware update
[01:21] <cubensys> now I have 5 or 6 system problem errors on startup
[01:22] <cubensys> but everything seems fine in every other regard
[01:22] <bodhi_zazen> ki7rw, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit
[01:22] <cubensys> what do I do to solve the system problem errors
[01:22] <bodhi_zazen> cubensys, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -f | pastebinit
[01:23] <ki7rw> http://pastebin.com/qpKdhaTt
[01:23] <cubensys> what does the -f do?
[01:23] <bodhi_zazen> fix
[01:24] <bodhi_zazen> see man apt-get ;)
[01:24] <cubensys> thanks man, stay equanimous!
[01:26] <bodhi_zazen> ki7rw, try sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/dpkg
[01:26] <allizom> Bray90820: that software has been discontinued for GNU/Linux, you could try to use evince, okular, or another pdf reader and see how it goes
[01:26] <bodhi_zazen> IME evince prints best
[01:27] <bodhi_zazen> at least with my printer
[01:27] <ki7rw> already tried that: http://pastebin.com/GT9Gwdx1
[01:28] <kostkon> !info acroread
[01:28] <Guest86360> any tip on fish auto exchange key on xchat or konversation
[01:28] <bodhi_zazen> Guest86360, use bash =)
[01:29] <Guest86360> seems only irssi has it :S
[01:29] <Guest86360> bash.. ?
[01:29] <redstar> Hello I am having trouble getting Wifi working on Ubuntu 15.04.
[01:29] <bodhi_zazen> bash -c irissi
[01:29] <redstar> It won't let me connect to any wifi network. :(
[01:30] <redstar> And under the network manager it was Wireless Networks: disconnected.
[01:30] <bodhi_zazen> redstar, simply stating it is not working does not help use help you - start with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[01:30] <nomic> redstar you need to right click then edit wireless then put in your wep key
[01:31] <nomic> wireless manager
[01:31] <Pazooza> WEP? Should be WPA.
[01:31] <Guest86360> Uploading bash output within IRSSI
[01:31] <redstar> I have tried that, and when I try "connect" it simply shows it trying to connect and then it stops, never working.
[01:31] <Guest86360> humm not sure to understand hehehe
[01:31] <redstar> And it's WPA2.
[01:31] <nomic> ok
[01:31] <nomic> have you put in your wap key
[01:32] <nomic> at any point
[01:32] <redstar> Yes.
[01:32] <redstar> I have a feeling it's a problem with my drivers.
[01:32] <nomic> why r u here lol
[01:32] <Pazooza> Try "connect to a hidden netrwork" then select wlan0 if it's already set up.
[01:32] <redstar> I am on a wired connection -- there's an unsightly wire running up my stairs and down my hallway.
[01:32] <nomic> if the pc sees the wireless it should be connecting -- if it sees all your local links
[01:33] <redstar> It doesn't list the available wifi networks or anything, I just tried "connect to a hidden network".
[01:33] <nomic> so you don' tsee any network ids in the list
[01:33] <redstar> Correct.
[01:33] <nomic> so your wireless card disn't connecting
[01:33] <nomic> your pc wireless isn;t working at all
[01:34] <redstar> It seems that way.
[01:34] <nomic> you have incompatible pc wireless with your pc .. is it a laptop or a pc
[01:34] <redstar> PC.
[01:35] <redstar> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0034] (rev 01)
[01:35] <nomic> you maybe do not have wireless hardware at all (possibility) - I have (for instance) on pcs a wireless usb key
[01:35] <nomic> pcs are not supplied with wireless
[01:35] <nomic> laptops are
[01:35] <redstar> My motherboard has wifi on the chipset.
[01:35] <Pazooza> If you have any wireless security cameras in the area turn them off, they interfere with wifi.
[01:36] <redstar> Wifi works fine from my laptop and my mobile phone.
[01:37] <linuxuz3r> hi
[01:38] <pitiye_> guys i have a special requirement ,  i hope many of you have seen tutorial videos on youtube where , tutor types text on a text editor in large fonts to present and elaborate the tutorial,  is there any way to render this into the video screen rather than typing on text editor ?
[01:38] <nomic> you maybe need http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61S5gwCI6BS._SL1400_.jpg
[01:38] <Pazooza> Delete your wlan0 configuration and do it again.
[01:38] <linuxuz3r> just wondering how to get the opengl version supported on my ubuntu install
[01:38] <nomic> http://s3.amazonaws.com/wootsaleimages/Netgear_54Mbps_Wireless_USB_2.0_Adapterpo5Detail.jpg
[01:38] <nomic> usb wireless adaptor - instant connection thru any pc
[01:38] <redstar> There must be a way to get the onboard WiFi working.
[01:39] <pitiye> guys i have a special requirement ,  i hope many of you have seen tutorial videos on youtube where , tutor types text on a text editor in large fonts to present and elaborate the tutorial,  is there any way to render this into the video screen rather than typing on text editor ?
[01:39] <nomic> if you do not have that -"onboard wireless" less likely to work - that ^ 100% worky, every time
[01:39] <redstar> I don't have time to wait for one of those, my roomate almost tripped to death over my ethernet cable.
[01:39] <n0m_> does partedmagic zero out free space?
[01:39] <nomic> usb wireless confirmed - netgear wsg511
[01:39] <nomic> thos things are handy
[01:39] <n0m_> i dont want to erase my os, but i do want to completely wipe the free space
[01:40] <nomic> harder to get some obscure wireless working on a pc (apart from a laptop) .. diagnose
[01:40] <redstar> Why so hard?
[01:41] <nomic> put the cable next to the skirting board away from where people walk until your netgear wsg511 key arrives (ebay v cheap)
[01:41] <nomic> is hard life is hard life involves many difficult things
[01:41] <redstar> No
[01:41] <redstar> It must work!
[01:42] <nomic> ok you sit here and wait for specialists to diagnose your specific PC / wireless hardware problem.
[01:42] <nomic> do not panic - you are online
[01:43] <allizom> pitiye: please be clearer, what does render into the video screen mean?
[01:43] <pitiye> allizom:  have you seen subtitles in a movie ?  i am looking for a similar effect
[01:44] <pitiye> allizom:  i just dont want to edit video, or write text on a text editor when recording the screen ,  just want to embed text while recording the screen.
[01:45] <redstar> nomic: roger that
[01:46] <redstar> nomic: I think I need the compat-wireless-pc package.
[01:46] <redstar> But it's not in repositories it needs to be built.
[01:46] <allizom> pitiye: when will you be typing the text, during or after the recording?
[01:48] <pitiye> allizom:  its impossible to type text during or after recording , i can edit the video and insert text with kdenlive after recording , which i dont want to do that.   i would have prepared text in a file before recording and use a tool which prints and embeds those text on the screen,  i am looking for such tool.
[01:51] <ging> does anyone know anything about old kernal images not being picked up by apt auto remove on 12.04 ?
[01:52] <leo34> hello is there a way
[01:53] <Bashing-om> ging: 'autoreove' apt was rewritten after the release of 12.04 . So in 12.04 that ability of autoremove does not exist .
[01:53] <leo34> to tell testdisk  where to start the search for a partition
[01:53] <ging> ah
[01:53] <ging> that would explain it
[01:55] <ging> the amount of guides which were meant to by for 12.04 which have simply said do apt get auto remove has been quite a pain then
[01:56] <ging> i have been searching and searching for broken dependancies which never existed
[01:57] <Bashing-om> ging: Yeah, "autoremove" exist in 12.04, but the ability to delete old kernels is not supported (or at least the last I was aware, maybe with HWE it is ?) .
[01:59] <Bashing-om> ging: 'sudo apt-get -f install ' will list (and try and fix) any dependency issues . Also 'sudo fpkg -C ' for an audit of the package management system .
[02:00] <ging> there were no issues
[02:00] <ging> i just thought maybe there were packages which depended on kernals they didn't actually need to
[02:01] <pitiye> allizom:  Hello
[02:01] <ging> which would stop autoremove being able to remove them
[02:04] <ging> if i have a full boot partion of kernels, all newer than the current one in use, would it be ok to remove all except the current and the 2 latest ones?
[02:04] <ging> i don't want to reboot it till i've fixed the full boot partion
[02:05] <pitiye> allizom: xosd is what going to save me :D
[02:07] <allizom> you found one? glad to hear, sorry but I didn't know any
[02:07] <allizom> I was searching for osd though :)
[02:10] <Bashing-om> ging: In 12.04 apt-get and dpkg are the tools to use to remove the old imagea and headers .
[02:10] <hypernova> hey guys how do you fix packet loss?>
[02:19] <ging> Bashing-om: but how do i know which ones are really needed?
[02:20] <bodhi_zazen> hypernova, depends on the cause, fix your network
[02:20] <bodhi_zazen> If it is outside your network, call your ISP
[02:20] <ging> or is the no real chance any specific ones are needed
[02:20] <hypernova> k
[02:20] <bodhi_zazen> ging, you only really need 1 kernel, the one you are currently running
[02:21] <Bashing-om> ging: 'uname -r ' tells you the current booting kernel. That should be the latest one, and also keep the one under it as a backup, all others can be removed .
[02:21] <bodhi_zazen> I like to keep one old kernel "just in case"
[02:21] <ging> i don't want to remove the wrong one and it eat half my packages
[02:21] <bodhi_zazen> ging, so use the -s flag
[02:21] <bodhi_zazen> sudo apt-get -s remove foo
[02:23] <Bashing-om> ging: ^ +1 .. the -s is "simulate" - safety net . will tell you what it is going to do but does not do it .
[02:23] <ging> bodhi_zazen: the problem is i can't use apt untill i have removed a few, i need to delete some manually as apt is failing to do anything due to a full boot partition and a partly installed kernel
[02:23] <ging> will not let me add or remove
[02:24] <ging> or do anything infact
[02:24] <bodhi_zazen> dpkg -r kernel
[02:24] <Bashing-om> ging: In that case try 'dpkg' it works at a lower level and you might have enough overhead room for 'dpkg' to work .
[02:24] <ghost_> hii guys., ?
[02:24] <bodhi_zazen> ging, and make /boot bigger, lol
[02:25] <ghost_> please help.,
[02:25] <ghost_> E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/id.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_universe_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[02:25] <bodhi_zazen> mv /boot/some_kernel /root (kernels are vmlinuz) , then move it back to remove it with apt-get
[02:26] <bodhi_zazen> ghost_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/30072/how-do-i-fix-a-problem-with-mergelist-or-status-file-could-not-be-parsed-err
[02:26] <bodhi_zazen> ghost_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[02:27] <Bashing-om> ghost_: Maybe corrrupted control files. Try : ' sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade ' .
[02:27] <bodhi_zazen> ging, did I mention, make /boot larger
[02:28] <ghost_> thanks guys., bashing-om
[02:29] <ghost_> I'm try
[02:29] <ging> bodhi_zazen: i wish i could but it's an odd storage setup and i have no access to the hypervisor
[02:30] <bodhi_zazen> don't use odd storage setups =)
[02:31] <Bashing-om> ghost_: :)
[02:42] <O_Andrew> Hello there, i can't use my webcam! It shows in lsusb but not in dmesg! Where should i look next?
[02:43] <O_Andrew> actually it shows in kern.log! -> uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device WebCam (064e:d101)
[02:44] <bodhi_zazen> and what happens when you run cheese or try to use it ?
[02:45] <O_Andrew> Well cheese says it cannot connect to it, VLC says open of `v4l2:///dev/video0' failed
[02:45] <O_Andrew> By the way im don't even know if really is video0, its the only 'video' device i got though
[02:45] <O_Andrew> if it really is *
[02:46] <O_Andrew> Cheese says: "There was an error playing video from the webcam"
[02:51] <bodhi_zazen> version of ubuntu ?
[02:52] <threesixes> O_Andrew, what does lsusb say?  some old webcams dont work good, new uvc ones are pretty good about that...
[02:52] <Bashing-om> ging: How ya doing ? Making progress ?
[02:52] <jmadero> hi all - I'm trying to make an m3u playlist from a script - I need to loop through a find command, anyone around who might be able to help?
[02:53] <O_Andrew> threesixes: Bus 002 Device 020: ID 064e:d101 Suyin Corp. Acer CrystalEye Webcam
[02:57] <mangolion> do you guys know any novel-writting app for linux like nimble writer and yWriter5 for Windows?
[02:59] <jmadero> mangolion: writer's cafe maybe
[02:59] <threesixes> O_Andrew, upstream reports uvc + cheese works with your webcam, ie modprobe the uvc module and try webcam software of choice
[02:59] <manuel> Installer failed to encrypt "logical partition already in use", forcing me to delete and partitionate without any encryption. Should I reboot the installer and encrypt the partition now?
[03:01] <mangolion> jmadero: its a website, not a program
[03:01] <O_Andrew> threesixes: I know it should work normally. It just doesn't :o. lsmod shows uvcvideo loaded and used by videodev, media, videobuf2_vmalloc and videobuf2_core
[03:03] <mangolion> oh sorry jmadero
[03:04] <jmadero> mangolion: for what?
[03:04] <threesixes> does uvcview work O_Andrew
[03:04] <threesixes> someone was saying to use a bison driver for that webcam
[03:05] <O_Andrew> No command 'uvcview' found, did you mean: guvcview
[03:07] <mangolion> jmadero: I thought it was just a website for writers, turns out its an actual program
[03:07] <jmadero> mangolion: yeah I've used it a couple times
[03:07] <jmadero> it's okay - I prefer just using LIbreOffice
[03:07] <jmadero> but to each their own
[03:07] <bodhi_zazen> manuel, if you need encryption, then yes you need to re-install
[03:08] <jmadero> only if you want the entire partition encrypted - you could just easily encrypt particular folders...
[03:08] <jmadero> without a complete reinstall
[03:08] <bodhi_zazen> true that
[03:11] <O_Andrew> guvcview spammed "V4L2_CORE: (get_v4l2_frame) video stream must be started first" in my terminal
[03:15] <lickalott> gents, anyone here familiar with duplicity?  i have a folder FULL of backups incremental and differential and I would like to remove some of them, but I can't find any documentation that defines which files are which (to include if the manifest needs to be kept)
[03:17] <dadis> i just had the experience of a dry vaporizer ecig hit
[03:17] <dadis> and it was not pleaseant. make sure you are well lubricated
[03:19] <Remoboth_> .
[03:19] <StormRoof> I commend Dylann Storm Roof for his actions, and Emmanuel AME Church will forever be a shrine for those of us who are sick of the feral negrow beast.   Your church will now become a place where those of us will come by and join you in prayer to honor what happened.
[03:20] <jmadero> please boot StormRoof
[03:20] <jmadero> mods anywhere
[03:20] <le_pig> well..
[03:21] <StormRoof> Emanuel AME Church will be a tourist attraction
[03:21] <StormRoof> for those of us who want to commemorate the event
[03:21] <StormRoof> they are going to see more mexicans, asians, and whites than usual
[03:21] <StormRoof> praying with them
[03:21] <StormRoof> but little will they know that they will all be niggerhaters
[03:21] <StormRoof> who are converting their church into a shrine
[03:21] <jmadero> mods in this room need perms so we can easily identify them :)
[03:22] <StormRoof> jmadero  what a newb
[03:22] <StormRoof> you have to paste spam into #freenode
[03:22] <StormRoof> to make a report
[03:23] <StormRoof> tengo ganas de darte un vergazo en tu cara
[03:23] <StormRoof> sé que lo quieres puto
[03:23] <kloeri> StormRoof: drop it
[03:24] <jmadero> kloeri: best just not to reply - you'll just egg him on
[03:24] <jmadero> a moderator will be around sooner or later and he'll be banned
[03:24] <kloeri> I am a moderator and I'm raound now
[03:24] <jmadero> kloeri: ah - mind booting him?
[03:24] <jmadero> pretty offensive stuff
[03:24] <kloeri> if he continues, sure
[03:24] <jmadero> thanks :)
[03:24] <Hobbet1> swearing in spanish seems rather rude
[03:25] <jmadero> the other stuff was quite a bit more offensive than his passive aggressive swearing at me
[03:25] <StormRoof> hobbet1  te gusta la venosa?
[03:25] <jmadero> thanks kloeri for dealing with him
[03:26] <mariorz> hi. I need some help upgrading an10.04 lts box. do-release-upgrade is unable to calculate the upgrade.
[03:26] <jmadero> mariorz: wow from 10.04....I'd highly suggest a fresh install
[03:27] <jmadero> that's 2 major releases . . . pretty likely things will go wrong
[03:27] <mariorz> grepping for Broken on apt.log returns "Broken libdb5.1:i386 PreDepends on multiarch-support [ i386 ] < none -> 2.15-0ubuntu10.12 > ( libs )"
[03:27] <jmadero> 10.04 has been EOL for a long time
[03:27] <mariorz> no
[03:27] <mariorz> it's 10.04 lts
[03:27] <mariorz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[03:27] <Remoboth_> WHy does irc.ubuntu.com keep redirecting me to Freenode?
[03:28] <mariorz> it has not reached EOL yet
[03:28] <jmadero> mariorz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[03:28] <jmadero> looks like it has to me
[03:28] <mariorz> LTS
[03:28] <jmadero> yes I know
[03:28] <jmadero> 10.04 IS LTS
[03:28] <jmadero> there is no "non LTS 10.04)
[03:28] <mariorz> fine a couple of months EOL
[03:28] <jmadero> Desktop EOL was May 9, 2013, Server was April 30, 2015
[03:28] <mariorz> you're not really being helpful
[03:28] <Remoboth_> Is there a good free app to adjust screen brightness?
[03:29] <threesixes> 064e:d101 stream must be started first ala google O_Andrew
[03:29] <mariorz> nd of course there was 10.04 non lts
[03:29] <kloeri> Remoboth_: irc.ubuntu.com is an alias for chat.freenode.net
[03:30] <Remoboth_> kloeri-  Oh.
[03:30] <Remoboth_> WEll.
[03:30] <Remoboth_> Damn.
[03:30] <Remoboth_> Brb.
[03:31] <mariorz> sigh
[03:31] <Remoboth> O.k.
[03:31] <Remoboth> So does anyone know of a good brightness app?
[03:32] <jmadero> mariorz: google search came up with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/127727/broken-dependencies-due-to-libjackd
[03:32] <jmadero> no clue if that'll help
[03:32] <tr3y> Hey guys I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 64 bit on a Lenovo G580 laptop. I'm having a weird WiFi issue. It usually works fine but when I close the lid and leave it over night, I wake it up and can't connect to the WiFi without resetting the router. Any ideas?
[03:32] <mariorz> no, I can use google
[03:32] <jmadero> mariorz: nevermind I'll stop wasting my time - good luck
[03:32] <mariorz> and would obviously do so before coming here
[03:32] <mariorz> jmadero: please
[03:32] <threesixes> tr3y, what router make and model number?
[03:33] <jmadero> anyone know how to output one line of find at a time through a loop in a bash script? trying to automate this stupid m3u creation that I have going :)
[03:33] <tr3y> threesixes, ill go check.
[03:35] <tr3y> threesixes,  TP LINK TLWR720N
[03:36] <mariorz> can someone help me understand this line from the apt.log? Broken libdb5.1:i386 PreDepends on multiarch-support [ i386 ] < none -> 2.15-0ubuntu10.12 > ( libs )
[03:37] <bodhi_zazen> Remoboth, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9047/cant-adjust-brightness-on-my-laptop
[03:37] <Remoboth> bodhi_zazen-  Thanks.
[03:38] <threesixes> tr3y, if you leave the lid open over night does it require reset?
[03:38] <tr3y> threesixes, I don't believe so. I just left the lid open from about 11am to 11pm and it kept the connection.
[03:39] <Guest86360> any tip on fish/blowkey  auto exchange when queries on xchat or konversation
[03:40] <bodhi_zazen> Remoboth, xrandr will work too
[03:40] <threesixes> next round try reloading the network manager service, if that doesnt work its probably uhhh the wifi low power link disabling prog
[03:40] <Guest86360> didnt quit understand you.. use bash lol
[03:41] <threesixes> Guest86360, blowfish & 2 fish was deprecated in favor of openssl & plain text
[03:41] <bodhi_zazen> Remoboth, echo $brightness > /sys/class/backlight/radeon_bl0/brightness , you have to find the path for your video card and brightness can be 0-10 or 0-255, dpenends
[03:41] <Remoboth> Jeez.
[03:41] <Remoboth> Fixed it.
[03:41] <Remoboth> THank you.
[03:41] <Remoboth> WHoo.
[03:41] <fotografisto> my fan in my laptop stopped working
[03:42] <fotografisto> but my laptop is not hot
[03:42] <fotografisto> and I left it on
[03:42] <fotografisto> did I blow out my fan?
[03:42] <fotografisto> I mean I left the laptop on plugged in
[03:42] <O_Andrew> it's probably the fan driver turning it off
[03:43] <fotografisto> because it isn't hot?
[03:43] <Guest86360> yes ok but chan wiht blowkey and to encrypt pm message .. :S
[03:43] <tr3y> threesixes, you know of a good website that could walk me through those things? I will google it if not. I really appreciate the help.
[03:43] <Guest86360> yes i use OpenSSL 1.0.2c for fp secure connection and transfer
[03:43] <Guest86360> *ftp
[03:44] <fotografisto> O_Andrew so is it safe?
[03:44] <fotografisto> I guess I just wait for it to get hot
[03:44] <O_Andrew> fotografisto: you can try rebooting the laptop, the fan's should run full speed on the POST, and turn off when ubuntu loads
[03:45] <fotografisto> okay
[03:45] <O_Andrew> You could also install lm-sensors and run 'sensors' to find out more about your computer's sensor capabilities
[03:45] <fotografisto> I will try that
[03:45] <threesixes> tr3y, im running funtoo with openrc, i haven't used ubuntu in years...  its just the systemd service file to restart networkmanager, and if that fails its that prog..  it's name is escaping me at the moment...  RFKILL
[03:46] <gunfus> I need some help with VSFTPD
[03:46] <threesixes> i think rfkill's not being processed correctly from hibernation/suspend O_Andrew
[03:46] <gunfus> I am getting a very .very odd problem.
[03:46] <ninguno> hola
[03:46] <threesixes> gunfus, use sftp or http =)
[03:46] <ninguno> hello
[03:47] <Guest86360> nah GL :P
[03:47] <gunfus> i can login from the O/S FTP client but when doing remotly it doesn't work
[03:47] <shibu_> hlo there...
[03:47] <gunfus> #threesixes I am forced to used FTP
[03:47] <gunfus> @threesixes I am forced to used FTP
[03:47] <threesixes> probably need to enable promiscuous mode gunfus
[03:47] <shibu_> Is there any way to remove a write protection from the pendrive using ubunut
[03:47] <ninguno> i am problem with Ubuntu 12.04
[03:47] <tr3y> threesixes, thank you.
[03:47] <shibu_> Please help me....
[03:47] <ninguno> help me please?
[03:48] <threesixes> shibu_, man chattr ala console/terminal
[03:48] <gunfus> @threesixes what is promiscous mode? I think the problem might also  be related to the messages.. I can see in the LOG for VSFTPD the mesg printing OKAY, but in the console of the client, the messages are delayed
[03:49] <gunfus> can I do a screenshot?
[03:49] <gunfus> somewhere?
[03:49] <threesixes> https://security.appspot.com/vsftpd/vsftpd_conf.html gunfus
[03:50] <threesixes> i already know the behavior its passive or promiscuous need flipping of the current setting....
[03:50] <al_nz1> HI peoples
[03:50] <kotomi> :shibu_ does it get wrong ? or just couldn't work on Ubuntu?
[03:50] <al_nz1> I need some help please with a sound problem. I get sound in VLC etc - but no sound in any browser.
[03:51] <shibu_> Sorry i don't understand what you told to me
[03:51] <al_nz1> So no sound in youtube tec
[03:51] <shibu_> Yep pendrive is working but not format..
[03:51] <shibu_> Is there any way to format my pendirve
[03:51] <shibu_> Is there any way to  format my pendrive
[03:51] <threesixes> shibu_, gparted
[03:52] <threesixes> al_nz1, you need to set your alsa configurations or pulse audio default device, and reconfigure vlc to use pulse audio
[03:52] <kotomi> perhaps you need to sudo chmod -R a+r+w * ?
[03:52] <shibu_> I use gparted but not worked...
[03:52] <shibu_> Is there another disk editor program ..
[03:53] <azamrod> e
[03:53] <kotomi> Can you read files in pen drive?
[03:53] <al_nz1> threesixes: it was going until recently ..... but ok - where do I look for this alsa config?
[03:53] <threesixes> you need to change the drive attributes to allow read write on the drive shibu_ ie chattr
[03:53] <gunfus> @threesixes
[03:53] <threesixes> its asoundrc, id just go with the pulse configurations, at least i think ubuntu uses pulse still
[03:54] <gunfus> threesixes: maybe this will help show the problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11786311/
[03:54] <shibu_> Ok how to change drive attributes
[03:54] <azamrod> eee
[03:54] <shibu_> Is there any way from ubuntu
[03:54] <james623> how do I uninstall wine1.7
[03:54] <threesixes> shibu_, im telling you to google for the manual for the command chattr
[03:54] <threesixes> =D
[03:54] <gunfus> threesixes: look at the seuqence of the msg.. it doesn't add up. The log says it let me in, but the client says it didn't. If I do the same locally it works
[03:54] <threesixes> you run the chattr to unlock the drive, then back to gparted
[03:54] <gunfus> threesixes: What catches my attention is always msg for VSFTP are off
[03:54] <azamrod> hola
[03:55] <Trinity> I accidentally 'rm'ed my X11 directory
[03:55] <Trinity> what should I do?
[03:55] <notaeon> james623: how did you install it?
[03:55] <gunfus> Trinity: remove X11 and reinstall it
[03:55] <bodhi_zazen> Just reinstall
[03:55] <gunfus> Trinity: sudo apt-get remove X11
[03:55] <james623> sudo apt-get install wine1.7
[03:55] <shibu_> Ok thanks
[03:55] <notaeon> james623: then 'sudo apt-get remove wine1.7' then
[03:56] <james623> I dont think you get me
[03:56] <notaeon> james623: installs through apt can be removed by apt
[03:56] <gunfus> threesixes: Did you take a look at the pastebin?
[03:56] <azamrod> tengo un problema con ubuntu 12.04
[03:56] <Trinity> gunfus, no such file X11
[03:56] <O_Andrew> I am getting closer to the problem: i enabled uvcvideo verbose dmesg logging. And it says this: No fast enough alt setting for requested bandwidth.
[03:56] <notaeon> james623: ok, explain more
[03:56] <azamrod> in spanish please
[03:56] <O_Andrew> !es
[03:56] <threesixes> yeah, sure did...  gunfus local login works fine too right?
[03:57] <azamrod> como hago eso ubottu?
[03:57] <bodhi_zazen> Trinity, apt-get --reinstall ....
[03:57] <gunfus> Trinity: threesixes  yes
[03:57] <Ranger15> Anyone around to help me with making the  /dev /hidraw0   to a ttyUSB0 device..  Trying to get a serial port but I get directly connect to hidraw0
[03:57] <bodhi_zazen> Trinity, if in doubt you can reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <gunfus> threesixes: hang on.. like as in from the console?
[03:57] <Trinity> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:57] <Trinity> bash: /usr/bin/sudo: No such file or directory
[03:57] <gunfus> threesixes: This user dahuacam does't have a shell
[03:57] <threesixes> right loopback
[03:58] <gunfus> yes
[03:58] <gunfus> threesixes: yes
[03:58] <threesixes> even external ip may work, but external remote server wont work
[03:58] <threesixes> yeah its that pasiv garbage....
[03:58] <Trinity> how fucked am i
[03:58] <threesixes> uhhh not very Trinity
[03:58] <gunfus> threesixes: I tried the pasv promiscious and restart hte server
[03:58] <gunfus> threesixes: no difference
[03:58] <bodhi_zazen> Trinity, apt-get --reinstall x11-common will probably work
[03:58] <threesixes> ie boot rescue media, and insert sudo via external means
[03:59] <gunfus> threesixes: the ODD ODD thing is that even in local FTP login I see "login failed", but I am actually connected, and so says the server log
[03:59] <Trinity> bodhi_zazen, drake@blue-thunder:~$ apt-get --reinstall x11-common
[03:59] <Trinity> bash: /usr/lib/command-not-found: /usr/bin/python3: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[03:59] <threesixes> gunfus, there's also a port passive setting that may need flipping
[03:59] <bodhi_zazen> Trinity, you can try to boot to recovery mode, but looks like a larger problem
[04:00] <gunfus> threesixes: the max min ports?
[04:00] <threesixes> gunfus, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Very_Secure_FTP_Daemon  break out the big guns...  arch wiki
[04:00] <gunfus> I have tried.. but let me double check
[04:01] <Trinity> bodhi_zazen, any ideas?
[04:01] <Trinity> im scared if i reboot
[04:01] <Trinity> i can tget back to gu
[04:01] <Trinity> gui
[04:01] <Trinity> or
[04:01] <Trinity> something
[04:01] <azamrod> thank you ubottu
[04:01] <bodhi_zazen> Trinity, you do not have much an option as you can not get root otherwise
[04:02] <threesixes> gunfus, did you disable your firewall, or enable ports for ftp?
[04:02] <azamrod> never answer in ubuntu-es
[04:02] <Trinity> bodhi_zazen, I still have a terminal open
[04:02] <bodhi_zazen> Looks like a larger problem, so you are likely looking at reinstall
[04:02] <Trinity> i cant open anymore terminals though
[04:02] <gunfus> threesixes: This is all in a local network
[04:02] <bodhi_zazen> root terminal ?
[04:02] <azamrod> yes yes
[04:02] <Trinity> + f1?
[04:02] <Trinity> ctrl + f1?
[04:02] <threesixes> right a firewall will block lan traffic too gunfus
[04:02] <moses> how do you get flash to work in ubuntu?
[04:02] <azamrod> yes
[04:02] <bodhi_zazen> Trinity, you need root access
[04:03] <Trinity> okay, ill try backing up
[04:03] <Trinity> but if i get to root
[04:03] <gunfus> threesixes: no firewall
[04:03] <Trinity> what then?
[04:03] <azamrod> this a root acces very very important
[04:03] <NegativeFlare> !flash | moses
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> moses: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:03] <azamrod> yes
[04:04] <azamrod> sudo apt get install guadalinexedu-meta
[04:04] <moses> is it dangerous to use flash?
[04:04] <azamrod> guadalinex edu
[04:04] <azamrod> is very important
[04:04] <NegativeFlare> moses: no?
[04:04] <threesixes> gunfus, double check that nftables iptables ufw and firewalld are not running
[04:04] <azamrod> yes
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> moses: security is a very wide topic..its reccomended to always keep your eyes open
[04:05] <azamrod> install guadalinex edu, distribution desarrolled by CGA
[04:05] <gunfus> threesixes: take a look at this while I go look the iptables
[04:05] <gunfus> threesixes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11786340/
[04:05] <threesixes> the best security is to not have anything important in the first place
[04:05] <azamrod> in Andalucia ,Spain
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> threesixes: +1
[04:06] <azamrod> close the window
[04:06] <azamrod> Windows is software libre
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> moses: if a flash banner rizes while your pc banking, and you click on it...who knows what can happen
[04:06] <azamrod> is 100% free
[04:06] <azamrod> sorry, me referia a Ubuntu
[04:06] <azamrod> ok?
[04:07] <gunfus> threesixes: no iptables
[04:07] <gunfus> threesixes: no iptables setup
[04:07] <azamrod> how do say spanish?
[04:07] <gunfus> azamrod: how do you say spanish for what?
[04:08] <gunfus> threesixes: can't find anything about nftables
[04:08] <gunfus> threesixes: only the headers
[04:08] <azamrod> spanish
[04:08] <gunfus> threesixes: any other thoughts?
[04:09] <threesixes> yeah past that tcp wrappers may block the connection i think that its set to whitelist hosts that connect
[04:09] <gunfus> threesixes: I also tried to remove the package and reinstall it
[04:09] <threesixes> i hate vsftpd and ftp in general, i switched to sftp because ssh is better anyways
[04:09] <gunfus> threesixes: I so agree with you
[04:09] <threesixes> windows clients use scp to connect to sftp
[04:10] <gunfus> but this cam requires FTP
[04:10] <threesixes> i upgraded out of that old old old technology
[04:10] <threesixes> ouch
[04:10] <azamrod> ubuntuuu
[04:10] <azamrod> sdfgd
[04:10] <azamrod> frgcdf
[04:10] <azamrod> gsdfgs
[04:10] <azamrod> dfg
[04:10] <azamrod> df g
[04:10] <azamrod> sdfcg
[04:10] <threesixes> i remember proftpd was a touch easier to deal with gunfus
[04:11] <gunfus> threesixes: I can do NAS uploads too.. WHICH WHO KNOWS what that is..
[04:11] <gunfus> threesixes: is that still in the reps?
[04:11]  * threesixes shrugs, probably
[04:11] <gunfus> threesixes: Yes, I just saw it
[04:11] <threesixes> i run funtoo gunfus =D
[04:11] <azamrod> ubuntu 92.04 is avaliable on the software center
[04:12] <threesixes> i love ubuntu, it's how i install funtoo =D
[04:12] <gunfus> threesixes: Funtoo, what the!?
[04:12] <threesixes> yeah lol, ubuntu's my rescue media
[04:12] <azamrod> ubuntu 92.04 avaliable!!!!
[04:12] <azamrod> what the time?
[04:13] <gunfus> threesixes: okay,, well thanks for the help anyhow.. by ebye VSFTP
[04:13] <bodhi_zazen> Funtoo - for those afraid of Gentoo -(
[04:14] <threesixes> http://www.funtoo.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Threesixes&offset=&limit=500&target=Threesixes
[04:14] <threesixes> 700+ wiki commits XD
[04:14] <azamrod> WHAT THE TIME?
[04:14] <threesixes> im not afraid of gentoo, i just dont like the devs....
[04:16] <azamrod> guadalinex
[04:16] <azamrod> tengo un problema con el
[04:16] <gunfus> threesixes: LOL! i love the intro video
[04:17] <gunfus> threesixes: "JUST DO IT!!"
[04:17] <azamrod> eat
[04:17] <gunfus> threesixes:  one mor equestion
[04:17] <gunfus> threesixes: Do you know what this could be?
[04:18] <O_Andrew> threesixes: uvcvideo: No fast enough alt setting for requested bandwidth. <-- Thats the last error i could find, i can't do anything else i googled, i tried setting the quirks, but to no avail ;o
[04:18] <gunfus> threesixes: no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[04:18] <gunfus> threesixes: Other than leaking memory.. :P
[04:18] <threesixes> O_Andrew, log the rest to the forums i guess
[04:18] <gunfus> threesixes: I get this problem when ever on teh console in between prompts
[04:19] <m0r0n> Hello. Can someone help me debug vsftp? Here is my config http://pastebin.com/FLrfsuWx  I'm getting a bad/user password when I use my desktop credentials. This didn't happen until I added lines 161-168. I did so because I've been following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293
[04:21] <O_Andrew> threesixes: okay, will do.
[04:23] <azamrod> hello
[04:29] <owen1> ubuntu 15.04. how to permanently switch caps lock to be esc from the terminal? is xmodmap still the way to do that?
[04:36] <O_Andrew> threesixes: Thanks for the help, i moved my issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2284237
[04:36] <O_Andrew> if you could take a look and see if i should add anything else, i'd be really thankful
[04:40] <chaotix> hey
[04:41] <chaotix> i am trying to figure out how to change the window buttons in the mate desktop environment...  if i open dconf-editor or gconf-editor, what is the way to get to the window buttons
[04:55] <lickalott> hey guys, what do you recommend (best tool) to check to see if a hard drive is degrading?
[04:55] <Koyaanis> your ear
[04:56] <notaeon> s.m.a.r.t
[04:57] <bodhi_zazen> lickalott, same answer you got in #fedora =)
[04:57] <lickalott> ouch!
[04:57]  * lickalott is embarrassed now
[04:57] <notaeon> we gotta cross poster here get 'em
[04:58] <__nemo__> lickalott: check out smartmontools. its part of the repositories.
[04:59] <lickalott> thanks __nemo__
[05:04] <DrPc> hi all!
[05:05] <DrPc> how to remove yxo.warmportrait.com maleware
[05:05] <DrPc> ?
[05:06] <notaeon> you tell me doc
[05:06] <__nemo__> DrPc: What have you tried?
[05:06] <notaeon> btw that doesn;t sound like a ubuntu problem
[05:08] <DrPc> __nemo__: just block this link in chrome!
[05:09] <__nemo__> DrPc: You tried blocking the link in chrome?
[05:10] <DrPc> __nemo__: yes!
[05:11] <DrPc> __nemo__: block pup-ops!
[05:12] <__nemo__> DrPc: btw. exclamation marks makes you sound angry...
[05:13] <DrPc> __nemo__:na
[05:13] <DrPc> no
[05:34] <masgushi> hello :)
[05:34] <masgushi> i am getting acpi pcc probe error
[05:35] <masgushi> in ubuntu 15.04
[05:35] <masgushi> it appeared yesterday onwards
[05:36] <masgushi> just few days back the kernel got updated to 3.19.0-21  via ubuntu software updater
[05:38] <masgushi> the acpi pcc probe error appears at start always now
[05:38] <masgushi> and then it displays some more messages about error
[05:39] <masgushi> i read in some forums that it
[05:39] <masgushi> 's not a harmful error
[05:39] <masgushi> it doesn't let to boot into ubuntu directly
[05:39] <masgushi> i have a dual booted system alongwith windows 7
[05:43] <masgushi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11786525/
[05:45] <masgushi> to go into ubuntu....after the error message have to type "systemctl default"
[05:46] <masgushi> updated paste:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/11786535/
[05:58] <sulit> hello, everyone
[05:58] <sulit> can you help me resolve the program?
[05:59] <sulit> http://p3.lxd.cc/uploads/2015/06/apt_get.png
[06:00] <sulit> i don't install git in debian amd64
[06:00] <sulit> it show me the deb size mismatch
[06:01] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | sulit
[06:02] <ubuntu510> sulit: From debian?
[06:02] <sulit> ubuntu510: yes
[06:02] <SchrodingersScat> !support | maybe !support is more appropriate.
[06:02] <ubuntu510> sulit: why
[06:02] <sulit> ubuntu510: deb size dismatch
[06:03] <ubuntu510> ?
[06:03] <sulit> ubuntu510: http://p3.lxd.cc/uploads/2015/06/apt_get.png
[06:03] <sulit> ubuntu510: i think ubuntu apt-get same as debian
[06:03] <ubuntu510> sulit: What OS is this?
[06:04] <masgushi> i am getting acpi pcc probe error in ubuntu 15.04..from yesterday onwards
[06:04] <sulit> ubuntu510: Linux sulitpc 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:04] <masgushi> can't get into ubuntu without typing "systemctl default" everytime after it shows the error message
[06:05] <ubuntu510> !debian | sulit
[06:05] <Harris> hello
[06:05] <sulit> ubottu: Ok, thanks
[06:11] <deffrag> I am upgrading system from 14.04 to 14.10 and it crossed 75% of the overall upgrade progress when I last checked the screen. But now when I checked it, it is stuck at "Downloading Dropbox ... 3%". It is not continuing the process.  Should I go into recovery mode and fix broken packages?
[06:12] <ObrienDave> why, oh why, do people insist on "upgrading packages while installing"?
[06:13] <masgushi> bye :)
[06:13] <deffrag> ObrienDave: I have no idea why it was downloading Dropbox when all the important packages were completed downloading
[06:14] <ObrienDave> *sighs*
[06:15] <deffrag> What do you suggest?
[06:15] <deffrag> Can recovery mode help?
[06:15] <ObrienDave> never used it, couldn't tell you
[06:17] <deffrag> Then what do you suggest?
[06:17] <ObrienDave> don't use "upgrade packages while installing" ;P
[06:21] <deffrag> I did do-release-upgrade and there was no option for what you said
[06:41] <glitch> forgive me if i am in the wrong room but i am having a display issue
[06:41] <glitch> i am running dual monitors and one is reading the wrong phical size is there a way i can fix that
[06:42] <glitch>  sorry about spelling  tired
[06:44] <ObrienDave> as long as it reads the proper resolution, what difference does it make about the physical size?
[06:45] <DBoyz_> Hi, Qualcomm's Atheros QCA9377 doesn't seem to be supported by the linux kernel yet. Can someone confirm this?
[06:45] <glitch> its reading as 7 inch and it  is a 32  every thing on it  is huge
[06:46] <ObrienDave> change the resolution
[06:47] <glitch> haveit at max resolution as it is
[06:47] <boodllebat> Hello
[06:48] <redstar> Hi guys I really need some help getting the onboard wifi working on my PC.  It's an ath9k chipset, and in my network manager it doesn't list available wifi networks, and when I try to connect to a wifi network it just hangs then does nothing.
[06:48] <boodllebat> I've made a small plugin how can i add it to apt package manager so that users can download it ?
[06:48] <redstar> I'm running a fresh install of 15.04.
[06:48] <DBoyz_> Aha another qualcomm atheros
[06:49] <redstar> ;(
[06:49] <DBoyz_> Mine's QCA9377 though
[06:49] <DBoyz_> not sure which chipset it belongs to
[06:49] <redstar> AR9462 here
[06:49] <DBoyz_> hence I need help :/
[06:49] <redstar> Did you have any luck getting it working?
[06:50] <DBoyz_> redstar: there are a few tutorial that I found
[06:50] <redstar> ath9k.conf in modprobe directory? I tried it without luck ;(
[06:50] <auronandace> boodllebat: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[06:51] <redstar> Might try compat-wireless package next if I can find one for my kernel.
[06:51] <redstar> Which is 3.19.0-21-generic by the way.
[06:52] <DBoyz_> redstar: ah found it. http://askubuntu.com/questions/215498/how-to-install-qualcomm-atheros-ar9565-wireless-drivers
[06:52] <DBoyz_> but that's for 12.04 :/
[06:53] <redstar> Yeah that's from 2012 do you think it's still relevant?
[06:53] <DBoyz_> I have no idea. The method should be similar
[06:53] <SysAdmin7> Did you install the ath9k drivers from ubuntu.
[06:53] <redstar> I didn't know there were specific drivers. I installed build-essentials and linux-headers-generic though as recommended by some posts I seen.
[06:54] <DBoyz_> Apparently there are. I've just discovered it out today.
[06:54] <SysAdmin7> Try modinfo ath9k
[06:54] <redstar> Are we talking about the compat-wireless packages or what?
[06:55] <SysAdmin7> What's your output from that command?
[06:56] <DBoyz_> I think you better direct the question to SysAdmin7. I have very little knowledge to help, sorry.
[06:56] <DBoyz_> I'm actually here trying to fix a wifi issue too lol.
[06:56] <SysAdmin7> What's ur problem
[06:57] <DBoyz_> SysAdmin7: Similar to redstar's but I'm using QCA9377. I'm not sure which chipset it belongs to
[06:57] <DBoyz_> Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 to be exact.
[06:58] <redstar> DBoyz_, please let tonight be our night of solving this god forsaken issue!
[06:58] <glitch>  redstar found  three threads about your wi-fi device and linux     general census is  get a cheep usb dongle that works and wait for the driver
[06:59] <redstar> glitch, I googled pretty heavily and never seen any of those recommendations, can you link?
[06:59] <redstar> Also I need bluetooth too and I think it's tied to this same issue.  Ugh!
[06:59] <DBoyz_> redstar: I'm sure yours would be a relatively easier fix.
[06:59] <SysAdmin7>   Dboyz: Bluetooth?
[06:59] <threesixes> wna1100 6 bucks ath9k_htc =D
[06:59] <DBoyz_> SysAdmin7: sorry. wifi
[06:59] <glitch> redstar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2281584 the rest referance back to it
[07:00] <redstar> DBoyz_, why would mine be easier?
[07:00] <SysAdmin7> Dboyz: kk
[07:01] <redstar> Anyone wanna see my wireless_script output? :)
[07:01] <DBoyz_> redstar: because your ath9k chipset has been around for a few years and has been supported by the community unlike mine
[07:02] <redstar> Yours is 9k too though...
[07:02] <redstar> A9377
[07:02] <DBoyz_> are you sure?
[07:03] <redstar> The number 9377 is in the 9k range no?
[07:03] <SysAdmin7> Redstar: did you try creating a file /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf with contents: options ath9k nohwcrypt=1
[07:03] <redstar> Yes
[07:03] <DBoyz_> but the model name starts with QCA. yours starts with A<something> right?
[07:03] <redstar> And I've confirmed that param is loaded.
[07:03] <SysAdmin7> Kk, did u install compat drivers
[07:04] <redstar> No compat drivers yet, but I haven't come across relevant package for my kernel and afaik compat packages are for installing software from newer versions of the distro, which isn't the case given I'm on 15.04.
[07:06] <SysAdmin7> Have you installed backports?
[07:07] <redstar> That's just the newer rendition of compat no?
[07:07] <SysAdmin7> Yep
[07:07] <redstar> No I haven't done that, but like I said, it doesn't seem like the right solution.
[07:08] <SysAdmin7> Well, you might as well try it...
[07:08] <redstar> Do you know where I can get the right package for kernel 3.19.0-21-generic?
[07:09] <SysAdmin7>  http://drvbp1.linux-foundation.org/~mcgrof/rel-html/backports/
[07:09] <SysAdmin7> Grab the 3.19 download
[07:10] <Lewoco> I created a new X session by connecting to an xRDP but all I get it the default black-and-white X background. How do I start unity?
[07:10] <redstar> I am a bit of a newb with building from source, do you have some guide for me? :)
[07:10] <SysAdmin7> Unzip the Tarbell
[07:10] <SysAdmin7> Pp
[07:10] <DBoyz_> SysAdmin7: can I use ath9k driver for my chipset too?
[07:10] <SysAdmin7> Autocorrect...
[07:11] <SysAdmin7> Tar -xzvf ....
[07:11] <redstar> Done..
[07:11] <glitch> ok which chat would my best bet be to  handle dual screen resolution issues
[07:11] <SysAdmin7> Cd into the new directory
[07:11] <auronandace> !checkinstall | redstar
[07:17] <jaden> hello
[07:27] <jaden> hi
[08:02] <DBoyz_> meh
[08:02] <DBoyz_> I shall ask again
[08:02] <O_Andrew> ?
[08:03] <O_Andrew> Ask what?
[08:03] <DBoyz_> Need help to get my Qualcomm's Atheros QCA9377 wifi to work
[08:03] <O_Andrew> Does it show in lspci?
[08:05] <DBoyz_> 03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev 30)
[08:05] <O_Andrew> good, now do 'lspci -v'
[08:05] <O_Andrew> find that line again
[08:05] <O_Andrew> and tell me what driver it currently uses
[08:06] <O_Andrew> (it probably uses 'wl' but i wanna make sure)
[08:07] <DBoyz_> O_Andrew: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11786871/
[08:09] <DBoyz_> There's no "Kernel driver in use" stuff
[08:09] <O_Andrew> Yep, there is no driver loaded for it
[08:09] <O_Andrew> Can you connect with an ethernet cable>
[08:09] <O_Andrew> ?
[08:09] <DBoyz_> Yup. Connected now
[08:10] <O_Andrew> open up the application search tool and search for "Additional Drivers"
[08:10] <DBoyz_> No additional drivers available.
[08:10] <O_Andrew> Damn it.
[08:10] <O_Andrew> Gimme one sec.
[08:11] <DBoyz_> okay
[08:12] <DBoyz_> which is weird because it doesn't detect nvidia drivers as well
[08:15] <popey> DBoyz_: its in "Software & Updates" -> Additional Driverss
[08:15] <O_Andrew> Yeah, he has the qca9377 which is quite new as i see
[08:15] <DBoyz_> popey: yeah. that's the exact stuff i'm looking at.
[08:15] <O_Andrew> Im trying to see if there's any driver available
[08:16] <popey> looks like it's not well supported yet
[08:22] <O_Andrew> i looked around quite a bit
[08:22] <O_Andrew> and i couldn't find a compatible driver
[08:22] <O_Andrew> :/
[08:23] <O_Andrew> There are some threads with people having the same issue, and most just bought a usb-wifi-dongle
[08:24] <O_Andrew> I used to have the same problem with another Atheros device last year, and after a few months the driver got released so i switched back to linux.
[08:26] <DBoyz_> oh okay
[08:26] <DBoyz_> thanks O_Andrew
[08:35] <slayer> test
[08:37] <neurot> slayer working
[08:41] <Wimmel> hoeren
[08:52] <azureuser> who am i
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> azureuser: can we help you?
[08:52] <azureuser> just checking out irssi :)
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> !test | azureuser
[09:14] <tintedwindows> ubuntu is the best
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | tintedwindows
[09:17] <meandrain> is there a better/newer way (than using fdisk) to create partitions?  I am thinking of GPT partitions
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> meandrain: maybe gparted can help you?
[09:19] <meandrain> lotuspsychje: I'll try gparted
[09:19] <meandrain> or maybe parted
[09:19] <al2o3-cr> meandrain: cgdisk?
[09:20] <al2o3-cr> like cfdisk but for gpt
[09:20] <ding> hello every one
[09:20] <EriC^^> meandrain: cgdisk is great
[09:20] <ding> have chinese people
[09:21] <meandrain> thank you guys, I'll play with parted and cgdisk
[09:21] <ding> why not fdisk
[09:23] <meandrain> I've used only fdisk so I was thinking maybe it's time to learn something new
[09:28] <Pentester_CodeXp> Hi
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> Pentester_CodeXp: welcome how can we help you?
[09:28] <Pentester_CodeXp> I dont know :D
[09:28] <Pentester_CodeXp> What ever bye :D
[09:29]  * al2o3-cr just why?
[09:29] <TJ-> meandrain: For GPT 'gdisk' is the correct command-line tool, equivalent to 'fdisk' with MBR
[09:29] <meandrain> TJ-: thanx
[09:30] <al2o3-cr> TJ-: whats wrong with cgdisk?
[09:30] <TJ-> meandrain: 'cgdisk' and 'sgdisk' are close cousins of 'gdisk' but are targeted at scripted or  text-based curses windowing mode
[09:30] <TJ-> al2o3-cr: Nothing at all, it's a curses wrapper around gdisk
[09:30] <al2o3-cr> :P
[09:31] <TJ-> Those tools are all from the 'gdisk' package
[09:31] <meandrain> yep
[09:32] <TJ-> meandrain: For power users, 'parted' falls down especially if you need to manage MBR/GPT hybrid configurations
[09:33] <meandrain> I've used parted once, it was ok (easy to use)
[09:54] <shomon> hi, I have a non standard usb dongle so I mounted it with ndiswrapper. How do I get this to happen each boot?
[09:54] <shomon> atm I have to type "modprobe ndiswrapper" and restart networking...
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> shomon: what kind of chipset is your dongle?
[09:55] <shomon> bcmn43xx32
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> !broadcom | shomon
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> shomon: you might wanna try that b43 firmware
[09:57] <owen1> how to make capslock act as esc? xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = Escape NoSymbol Escape" doesn't do anything (ubuntu 15.04)
[09:58] <EriC^^> owen1: type xmodmap -pke | grep 66
[10:00] <owen1> EriC^^: keycode  66 = Escape NoSymbol Escape
[10:03] <EriC^^> odd doesn
[10:03] <EriC^^> doesn't work here either
[10:03] <EriC^^> try xbindkeys maybe owen1
[10:04] <owen1> will do!
[10:06] <shomon> lotuspsychje, so I need to reinstall everything and start again? I followed that page a while back and somehow got this dongle working
[10:07] <shomon> I don't really want to mess with it. Just to be able to not have to start it manually each time I boot
[10:07] <shomon> so to rephrase the question
[10:07] <shomon> how do you get a module to load at boot?
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> shomon: why would you load ndiswrapper, when you need a broadcom driver?
[10:08] <shomon> I'm connected to the internet already, and via ndiswrapper
[10:08] <shomon> it's just a wrapper for windows dirvers
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: greetings mate
[10:09] <shomon> the broadcom driver installs within ndiswrapper. so that's fine.
[10:09] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, heydiho!
[10:09] <shomon> what I need to do is get ndiswrapper to load at each boot
[10:09] <Johnny_Linux> you need the driver, not wrapper
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> shomon: if you find the correct linux broadcom driver, it will load automaticly on boot
[10:10] <shomon> aah... well I just upgraded to 14.. maybe now that will work
[10:10] <shomon> I tried it before but I had to go for the other route.. thanks
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> Johnny_Linux: wanna join us in #ubuntu-discuss ?
[10:15] <al2o3-cr> owen1: this works for me: setxkbmap -option caps:swapescape
[10:15] <owen1> al2o3-cr: works here too!
[10:16] <al2o3-cr> :)
[10:16] <owen1> should i just put this is a script that runs when i login?
[10:16] <al2o3-cr> owen1: puts in your .xinitrc
[10:17] <al2o3-cr> scratch that what version of ubuntu?
[10:17] <owen1> al2o3-cr: i don't have this file. my session is i3
[10:18] <al2o3-cr> owen1: putting it in rc.local should do it
[10:18] <owen1> al2o3-cr: i think i can do something like this in my i3 config file; exec_always --no-startup-id ~/restart.sh
[10:18] <al2o3-cr> owen1: ah, yep you can
[10:19] <al2o3-cr> i can never get xmodmap to work for me :(
[10:19] <owen1> al2o3-cr: the problem with your command is that now my esc is capslocking...
[10:20] <owen1> i don't want to touch esc
[10:20] <owen1> i don't need capslock in my life (;
[10:21] <al2o3-cr> one sec let me look through them again
[10:24] <al2o3-cr> let me reboot one sec
[10:27] <allizom> Hi, a friend has a computer running 14.04 desktop 32 bits. Recently, it started showing a black screen whenever you log in, for every user. The default greeter shows fine at full resolution. He told me the last thing he did was installing updates. The text ttys are working. The video card is a Nvidia Geforce 7300 LE, but I tend to think it is not a drivers issue. What else could it be? Where should I be looking at?
[10:28] <al2o3-cr> owen1: just tested this works: setxkbmap -option caps:escape (had to reboot to make sure)
[10:28] <al2o3-cr> this just makes caps as escape
[10:28] <owen1> al2o3-cr: i love you
[10:29] <al2o3-cr> owen1: love you too :P
[10:29] <lotuspsychje> allizom: try a recoverymode from grub perhaps?
[10:30] <allizom> lotuspsychje: I tried that, and also booting in an older kernel. No luck
[10:30] <EriC^^> allizom: try booting an older kernel, or changing the graphics driver
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> allizom: what about recoverymode/fix broken packages?
[10:31] <EriC^^> allizom: did you try booting with nomodeset? worth a shot
[10:31] <PengunCSC> oud
[10:33] <allizom> EriC^^: I tried switching to nouveau, I'm not sure I did it correctly, so I reinstalled nvidia-current. However I don't think it's a video driver issue, because with startx I can get a working desktop at full resolution (but the dash and the top bar are not shown)
[10:34] <allizom> EriC^^: I will try that
[10:36] <EriC^^> allizom: oh
[10:36] <EriC^^> that's odd
[10:38] <pwp> Hi, I want to shutdown my computer from a bash-script without having to give a password. After searching the internet I changed my /etc/sudoers file. Here is the new file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11787359/ But sudo shutdown -h now sill asks for a password. What am I missing?
[10:38] <EriC^^> you don't need to add anything to sudoers
[10:38] <EriC^^> TJ-: what was that command to shutdown without sudo? systemctl something ?
[10:39] <cyberalex4life> hello guys! I want an advice: is there some way for updating my Sony Xperia E1 by installing the update software in wine (as much as hard it can be)
[10:40] <cfhowlett> cyberalex4life, is the experia running ubuntu?
[10:40] <bazhang> !appdb | cyberalex4life
[10:40] <EriC^^> pwp: the sudoers isn't working cause you need to add /sbin/shutdown
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> cyberalex4life  i have exactly the same phone, but how is your question ubuntu related?
[10:40] <EriC^^> pwp: you could use poweroff if you want
[10:40] <bazhang>  /join #winehq cyberalex4life
[10:41] <TJ-> EriC^^: not sure; is systemctl a systemd thing?
[10:41] <cyberalex4life> cyberalex4life, no, but could I make it to run ubuntu instead of android?
[10:41] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah, but it works on 14.04 as well
[10:41] <EriC^^> you mentioned it a while ago
[10:41] <bazhang> !touch | cyberalex4life
[10:41] <EriC^^> TJ-: initctl maybe?
[10:41] <cfhowlett> !touch *possibly*.  read the touch wiki
[10:41] <pwp> EriC^^: you're right. I'll add shutdown!!
[10:41] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-touch cyberalex4life
[10:41] <TJ-> EriC^^: I'm not getting anything for "which systemctl" ... I've been to sleep since then though!
[10:43] <cyberalex4life> thank yout bazhang
[10:43] <bazhang> welcome
[10:49] <noob> hi all
[10:50] <noob> i cant play any videos in ubuntu, i have installed vlc and all required codec as well as smplayer
[10:50] <noob> only audioplays
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> noob: is your grafix card driver installed correctly?
[10:51] <EriC^^> noob: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[10:51] <noob> shahalam@Linux-Inspiron-5558 ~/Desktop $ sudo lshw -C video [sudo] password for shahalam:    *-display                       description: VGA compatible controller        product: Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics        vendor: Intel Corporation        physical id: 2        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0        version: 09        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: msi pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom        confi
[10:51] <noob> ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> noob  next time, use a pastebin for multiple lines
[10:51] <noob> sorry my first time here i will remember that
[10:52] <EriC^^> noob: are you sure the video isn't corrupted?
[10:52] <noob> here is the compleate log
[10:52] <noob> http://pastebin.com/vfFYauq9
[10:53] <noob> the videos works fine in windows
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> noob: your nvidia says unclaimed
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> noob: check your additional drivers section
[10:54] <noob> how do i claim it !
[10:54] <noob> its empty
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> noob: wich nvidia card do you have exactly?
[10:55] <noob> errrrhow do i check that
[10:55] <noob> i dont want to reboot to windows
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> noob: check the official webpage for your dell inspiron model
[10:57] <noob> ok
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> noob: wich ubuntu version did you have?
[10:58] <noob> 14.04
[10:58] <noob> nVIDIA GeForce 820M/920M Graphics Driver
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> noob: your card has optimus technology
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | noob install this mate
[10:59] <owen1> (ubuntu 15.04) - After hibernation (pm-hibernate or close the lid) my cursur is invisibe and i can't see what i type. any ideas?
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> noob: after that enable your nvidia card in nvidia-setting to 'performance mode'
[11:00] <noob> installing.......
[11:02] <noob> no nvidia-setting
[11:02] <HarrySacks> !ops
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> noob: nvidia-settings sorry
[11:03] <noob> thanks
[11:05] <rimdeker> Are there any decent command line password managers out there that aren't pass?
[11:05] <noob> it cant detect my nvidia card
[11:05] <noob> http://pastebin.com/T8HUQJHk
[11:05] <EriC^^> rimdeker: you could make your own file with passes and use gpg
[11:05] <noob> lotuspsychje it still cannot detect my nvidia card
[11:06] <noob> http://pastebin.com/T8HUQJHk
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> noob: are you sure no drivers are listed in 'additional drivers'?
[11:06] <noob> nope
[11:06] <noob> absolutly sure
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> noob: are you up to date?
[11:06] <HarrySacks> Did justin bieber see selena gomez naked?
[11:06] <noob> yes
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> !ot | HarrySacks
[11:06] <Guest94248> Hi! I want to resize (shrink) my home partition, and have booted using a live disk (xubuntu) to do so. But for some reason, gparted gets stuck when reading the partition tables, of the other disks in my machine. It just shows <reading partition table of /dev/sdb> or similar
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> noob: is your nvidia card enabled in bios?
[11:07] <Guest94248> How to debug/analyse that?
[11:07] <noob> it works perfectly fine in windows 8!
[11:07] <rimdeker> EriC^^: Hmmm, I guess. I love pass and would  like something like it. The only thing that bothers me is that it saves passwords in a file with clearname. People mightn't get to my passwords but they sure as hell can see what I got passwords for
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> noob: in ubuntu optimus cards need nvidia-prime to enable performance mode
[11:08] <noob> i installed it
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> noob: but you need to install driver also
[11:08] <noob> oh ok
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> noob: maybe try nvidia-current
[11:08] <HarrySacks> !ops | harrysacks
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> HarrySacks: stop triggering random things in channels
[11:09] <EasyRul3z> yo
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> EasyRul3z: welcome, what can we do you for?
[11:10] <HarrySacks> !ops | harrysacks
[11:11] <noob> http://pastebin.com/WkmLVBcp
[11:11] <noob> lotuspsychje
[11:11] <noob> do i need to reboot now ?
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> noob: try to see if you can enter nvidia-settings now
[11:12] <noob> saw nothing in it
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> noob: ok reboot then
[11:12] <noob> see you in a minut
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> goodluck
[11:12] <wsherwen> Having issues with my synaptic touchpad on my dell. Just simply won't work. Device detected, works in windows, had it working in 14.10 untill some updates applied then reinstalled 15.04 and wont work
[11:16] <HarrySacks> why would wal greens fire me for being drunk on the job?
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> !ops | HarrySacks
[11:17] <HarrySacks> lotuspsychje, dude i am a well known troll
[11:17] <HarrySacks> !ops | yes HFSPLUS is back
[11:18] <HarrySacks> !ops | why did HFSPLUS get fired from his job for being drunk
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  summertime... more bored teens online
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> seems like it :p
[11:20] <noob1> xserver fails to load i had to sudo apt-get remove nvidia-*
[11:21] <noob1> lotuspsychje
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> noob1: did you install ubuntu with cable/updates enabled?
[11:23] <noob1> yes
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> noob1: not sure then, your card should be discovering drivers..
[11:25] <noob1> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-('uname -r') can you correct this for me please
[11:26] <noob1> let me try to compile nvidia from source
[11:27] <boodllebat> Hello i was trying to make a Plugin for users so where should i place my binary (in user's system so that they can access it from anywhere ) ?
[11:27] <vfw> !compile | noob1
[11:28] <noob1> relax guys i have already don it afew times
[11:28] <vfw> !nvidia | noob1
[11:28] <noob1> but on opensuse
[11:28] <Ben64> noob1: that is likely to cause problems
[11:30] <vfw> noob1: Try the binary driver first.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:30] <noob1> ok
[11:31] <vfw> noob1: "Usually you will see a notification and/or an icon in the top panel, reminding you that restricted drivers are available."
[11:31] <ufk> hello
[11:31] <noob1> vfw idont see it
[11:32] <ufk> i want to configure an email server. to use postfix or... is there something new ?
[11:32] <bekks> ufk: Just use postfix :)
[11:32] <ufk> cool. now is there a way to configure in postfix that a specific user can send emails only to a specific destination ?
[11:33] <bekks> ufk: Is there?
[11:33] <ufk> i'll google and let ya know :)
[11:33] <vfw> noob1: lspci | grep VGA
[11:33] <vfw> noob1: What does ^ say?
[11:34] <noob1> one minut
[11:34] <vfw> noob1: (Which chip is it?)
[11:34] <noob1> says intel
[11:34] <vfw> noob1: Is it a laptop?
[11:35] <noob1> yes
[11:35] <noob1> but this shows nvidia
[11:35] <noob1> sudo lshw -C video
[11:35] <allizom> thanks to all, I managed to get a working graphical login with nouveau and nomodeset. With nomodeset, only nouveau works. Without it, neither nouveau nor nvidia do work
[11:35] <EriC^^> noob1: type sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:36] <noob1> ok
[11:36] <vfw> noob1: lsb_release -a   #Tell us what that says.
[11:36] <vfw> noob1: If it is a new install, I would first recommend updates:
[11:37] <vfw> noob1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:37] <bekks> vfs use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade.
[11:37] <bekks> vfw ^ :)
[11:38] <He4tman> Hi, is there any dedicated channel to Elementary OS?
[11:38] <EriC^^> !elementary | He4tman
[11:39] <vfw> noob1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:39] <vfw> beeps: Right?
[11:39] <vfw> bekks:
[11:39] <bekks> vfw: yeah :)
[11:40] <vfw> Thank you.
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> and apt without -get is also possible
[11:40] <vfw> sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade ?
[11:41] <noob3> GUYS thats a lot i got it to work!
[11:41] <vfw> noob3: Ok.  Good.
[11:41] <noob3> nvidia 340 drivers worked
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> !yay | noob3
[11:41] <vfw> fine business
[11:41] <noob3> thanks all
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> vfw  yes, works
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> noob3: dont forget to activate performance mode in nvidia-settings
[11:42] <vfw> MonkeyDust: Thanks
[11:42] <noob3> lotus thanks a lot
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> np mate
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> noob3: you did it yourself
[11:47] <vfw> MonkeyDust: as-of 14.04 ?
[11:47] <vfw> MonkeyDust: (I
[11:47] <vfw> MonkeyDust: (I'm in the rocking-chair)  (12.04)
[11:53] <roberto> hello
[11:59] <ufk> i'm having problems configure postfix to be a simple smtp server
[12:00] <SCHAAP137> ufk: try #postfix
[12:00] <ufk> i did apt-get install postfix! and i can telnet port 25.. but i think that i get incorrect username and password. doesn't it fetch it from the user db?
[12:00] <ufk> #postfix is asleep.. :)
[12:00] <SCHAAP137> depends on how you configure it i think
[12:00] <SCHAAP137> postfix does nothing by default after install, it needs quite some configuration
[12:07] <bekks> ufk: if you want postfix to use a database for the user authentication, you need to configure it.
[12:07] <ufk> i don't want it to use a database, i just want it to use the users in the system
[12:07] <never2far> hello, can someone guide me on how can i install grub on a new raid5 ? from rescue disk i have tried to use update-grub but i see that it shows me this: # update-grub
[12:07] <never2far> Generating grub configuration file ...
[12:07] <never2far> Found linux image: /boot/bzImage-3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64
[12:07] <never2far>   No volume groups found
[12:07] <never2far> Found Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS (14.04) on /dev/sdc2
[12:07] <never2far> done
[12:08] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[12:08] <Dreaman> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.1.0-040100-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[12:08] <Dreaman>            Desktop: Unity 7.3.2  Distro: Ubuntu 15.04 vivid
[12:08] <Dreaman> :)
[12:09] <vfw> never2far: What exactly are you trying to do?  (Or what problem are you trying to solve?)
[12:09] <never2far> vfw, i'll explain in the following lines:
[12:10] <nappy> how come i am unable to listen sound from my earphone on ubuntu
[12:10] <TJ-> never2far: is the RAID-5 a hardware RAID or software RAID - and if software, using md (Linux RAID) or dm (fake-RAID) ?
[12:10] <never2far> vfw,  because the host did not let me use raid5 from the begging of the installation ...i had to follow their install and use RAID1 with 3 disks ...then I have tried to remove 2 members from the array and create a new raid5
[12:11] <never2far> i had tried this guide but somehow it did not work - http://blog.scott.wallace.sh/2007/04/converting-raid1-to-raid5-with-no-data.html
[12:11] <never2far> regarding RAID ...it's software raid but i don't know how to tell if it's Linux RAID ( i suppose this is ) or dm (fake raid)
[12:12] <linuxd> bubblemon shows a memory usage of 59%(9.8/16.4GB)isn't it sort of  a high rate?
[12:12] <never2far> now ...i had created RAID5 ...with sda2 and sdb2 , i did chroot from the rescue and synced data from the third disk ...the only problem is that i can't manage to fix grub ...it still see ubuntu as being installed on sdc2 and not on /dev/md2
[12:12] <TJ-> never2far: If you used mdadm then it's Linux RAID
[12:13] <never2far> TJ-, it's Linux RAID then
[12:13] <never2far> thank you
[12:13] <TJ-> never2far: Is there some reason you chose RAID-5? There are very few scenarios where it is recommended, and especially *not* with 3 disks
[12:14] <never2far> TJ-, that's the request from the one who owns the server
[12:14] <never2far> TJ, why it's not recommended with 3 disks ? ...it's the minimum
[12:15] <never2far> and as far as I know if one drive fails raid is still functional
[12:15] <TJ-> never2far: might be worth referring them to http://www.smbitjournal.com/2012/11/choosing-a-raid-level-by-drive-count/
[12:15] <never2far> TJ-, thank you for the link ...i'll read about it
[12:15] <TJ-> never2far: in the footnotes: "RAID 5 never appears because there is no time on spindle hard drives today that it should be used, as RAID 5 is an enhancement of RAID 4, it too does not appear on the list."
[12:16] <TJ-> never2far: if the limit is 3 disks then I'd go with RAID-1 mirror with a hot spare
[12:17] <anddam> are launchpad.net questions in topic here?
[12:17] <linuxd> anddam: no
[12:17] <anddam> I'm trying to recover the password from my long time not-used account, I request the password change, I receive the confirmation code, put it in the form and when I submit the password change it says "bad bot go away"
[12:17] <anddam> oh, too late^
[12:17] <never2far> TJ-,  unfortunately it's not my decision so I'll need to find a way and use RAID-5 for the moment ...can you help me with the grub part ?
[12:17] <anddam> linuxd: ^
[12:18] <anddam> linuxd: I was typing and didn't read
[12:18] <anddam> linuxd: what's an appropriate channel for it?
[12:18] <TJ-> never2far: Is the RAID applied to partitions or to the entire physical drives?
[12:18] <anddam> I ask as the domain is launchpad.net but the pages say "Ubuntu One"
[12:18] <linuxd> anddam: ##linux , maybe?
[12:18] <never2far> TJ-, i'll create a pastebin link with all the info you need
[12:19] <TJ-> never2far: Ahhh! I see your issue
[12:19] <TJ-> never2far: You'll have a /dev/mdX device representing the RAID device
[12:19] <anddam> linuxd: how's that more appropriate for Ubuntu One?
[12:19] <never2far> yup
[12:20] <TJ-> never2far: is /dev/mdX a container for a file-system or does it contain a partition table?
[12:21] <Bozza> never2far: have you tried switching it off and on again?
[12:21] <linuxd> anddam: try #debian-next
[12:21] <never2far> TJ-,  here is the pastebin  - http://paste.ubuntu.com/11787727/
[12:21] <anddam> linuxd: are you for real?
[12:21] <linuxd> anddam: no
[12:21] <nappy> how do i set my system inorder to listen from my ear piece
[12:22] <never2far> TJ-, Bozza , /dev/md2 contains the file-system and i can mount it ...but after reboot ...grub won't boot from it
[12:22] <anddam> linuxd: I figured
[12:22] <never2far> somehow (if u have read the other link) ...md2 was before the changes a raid-1 array with all 3 members ...
[12:23] <TJ-> never2far: Are you using 'chroot' on /dev/md2 's mounted file-system to run update-grub ?
[12:23] <never2far> yup
[12:23] <linuxd> and sorry.just kidding you. so,what ia your problem?
[12:23] <TJ-> never2far: Have you also mounted /sys /dev /dev/pts /proc /run before entering the chroot?
[12:24] <linuxd> anddam:  sorry.just kidding you. so,what is your problem?
[12:24] <never2far> not all ...just /sys, dev and proc
[12:24] <never2far> ok i'll mount /run also ...did not know i'll need it
[12:24] <TJ-> never2far: /dev/pts can be more important
[12:25] <never2far> i did mount --bind /dev /new-disk/dev ...should not pts be included in this mount  ?
[12:25] <TJ-> never2far: Then I'd check whether grub has create itself a drivemap in /boot/grub/ that is pointing to the physical devices
[12:25] <musclez> hello beautiful ubuntites
[12:25] <never2far> TJ-, monted all
[12:25] <TJ-> never2far: no, because --bind doesn't cross file-systems. (/dev/pts) is a separate file system
[12:26] <never2far> TJ-, thx for the info ...i have monted all
[12:26] <never2far> did not know that :(
[12:26] <TJ-> never2far: I discovered that after banging my head a bit ... a long time ago now
[12:26] <TJ-> never2far: check out GRUB's drivemap now
[12:27] <never2far> can you please help me with this ? ...i don't know how ...if you give me some minutes i'll try to find it on the web
[12:27] <TJ-> never2far: sorry, 'device.map' ... the internal command is drivemap :)
[12:28] <TJ-> never2far: GRUB can install an optional alias file "/boot/grub/device.map" that maps physical system device names (/dev/sdX) to GRUB internal names (hdX)
[12:29] <never2far> TJ-, drivemap -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11787755/
[12:29] <TJ-> never2far: info: see https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Device-map.html
[12:30] <never2far> TJ-,  i don't have /boot/grub/device.map ...and thank you for your help again ! :)
[12:30] <TJ-> never2far: OK, so that's not causing an issue then
[12:31] <tokam> Hi, how can I overwrite the $USER variable for some IDEs using Ubuntu with startup parameters?
[12:34] <TJ-> never2far: are you able to do "pastebinit <(grub-mkconfig)" ?
[12:34] <tokam> Why do I have two such environment variables
[12:34] <tokam> USER=tokam
[12:34] <tokam> USERNAME=tokam
[12:34] <never2far> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11787772/
[12:36] <TJ-> never2far: That looks OK... now you should do "update-initramfs -u -k all" to ensure the MD drivers and hooks are installed correctly in the initrd
[12:37] <never2far> root@rescue:/boot/grub# update-initramfs -u -k all
[12:37] <never2far> root@rescue:/boot/grub# echo $?
[12:37] <never2far> 0
[12:37] <never2far> should I use mdadm --zero-superblock on /dev/sdc2 before reboot ?
[12:38] <never2far> yesterday the os booted from that disk somehow :(
[12:38] <never2far> but after zero ...it did not boot anymore
[12:38] <TJ-> never2far: That might help, depends on which metadata version is in use
[12:39] <never2far> ok i'll do a reboot hopefully it will wok :)
[12:39] <TJ-> never2far: Then you need to re-install the grub boot-loader: "grub-install /dev/sda"
[12:45] <TJ-> never2far: I've assumed, but not asked, if you ensured the hypervisor/BIOS is configured to boot from sda. it might just be a boot-order issue
[12:50] <DexterF> hi
[12:51] <DexterF> can the dmraid ("fakeraid") in 14.04 boot a degraded array?
[12:52] <TJ-> DexterF: what symptoms are you seeing? Has the array booted correctly previously?
[12:53] <DexterF> TJ-: oh, I don't have any problems at all, it's just that https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installing_with_Fake_RAID says "currently dmraid cannot boot a degraded array"
[12:54] <ioria> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Boot_from_Degraded_Disk
[12:54] <DexterF> and what good is a RAID that won't let me boot when only degraded
[12:54] <bekks> DexterF: Hopefully none.
[12:55] <DexterF> ioria: that's mdadm, not dmraid
[12:55] <ioria> ops
[12:55] <bekks> DexterF: Whats the actual issue behind your question?
[12:56] <DexterF> bekks: if in a raid1 one mirror fails, the machine won't boot if what the Arch wiki says is still true
[12:56] <bekks> DexterF: Thats not true :)
[12:57] <DexterF> I'll just pull one disk and see whats true and whats not...
[12:58] <never2far> TJ-, it worked ...thank you so much for all your help !
[12:59] <musclez> TJ- if you have time and ur not working with anyone else, can i get some of that primo primo support :D you already know aobut what
[13:00] <TJ-> musclez: You might not believe it but I can't remember the issue, my brain is immersed in other things! Let me pull up my logs to refresh my memory... and get myself a strong coffee
[13:01] <musclez> ...you may need the strongest coffee
[13:01] <musclez> my sitch is still horrible
[13:03] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:07] <musclez> is there anyway i can pull up the logs on this as well?
[13:09] <bazhang> !1984 | musclez
[13:10] <TJ-> musclez: which logs? The chat logs? my chat client keeps them so I filter on them. I sohuld have remembered your issue since I kept all your pastebins open
[13:10] <TJ-> musclez: Going to get the coffee now
[13:10] <SCHAAP137> did someone say, coffee
[13:10] <musclez> lolol, ok
[13:11] <TJ-> musclez: what state is the victim PC in right now? Ready in the chroot?
[13:12] <musclez> TJ-: i was in the middle of making a new installaiton of ubuntu on another disk but the isntaller crashed.. i can get in chroot in 2 mins
[13:13] <TJ-> musclez: hang on!
[13:13] <TJ-> musclez: If the installer crashed on the same hardware I'm going to be talking about a hardware fault yet again! Describe how the installer failed, please
[13:14] <musclez> im installign it thoug a usb cable i think i bumped it
[13:15] <musclez> its a usb3 sata connection on my desk and i move the disk
[13:15] <m82labs> It's been a while, but I seem to remember a way to set a directory up in such a way that any file created there will take on the uid and gid of the directory, not the user that created the file. Am I crazy?
[13:15] <ikonia> musclez: can you not just backup your data, and re-install normally ?
[13:15] <ikonia> rather than using external disks for installs
[13:15] <ikonia> you'll find it a lot quicker, easier and cleaner
[13:20] <musclez> i am in chroot
[13:20] <ikonia> musclez: what is it you're currently trying to do
[13:20] <ikonia> getting a summary would probably help
[13:22] <TJ-> ikonia: This was the one with disk corruption
[13:23] <ikonia> TJ-: yes, and various other things
[13:23] <ikonia> it was going on all last night
[13:23] <ikonia> hence why I'm curious what todays attempt is trying to achieve / plan
[13:23] <TJ-> likely caused by the corruption ... I suspect bad RAM introducing corruption into the file-systems
[13:24] <ikonia> I'm not convinced by that personally, but I'd like to know more / dig deeper
[13:24] <ikonia> be nice to put this to bed, once and for all
[13:25] <TJ-> ikonia: unexplained crashes, segfaults, behaviour in general, across the board
[13:26] <ikonia> TJ-: not unexplained
[13:26] <TJ-> musclez: where did it get left, was it with Eric^^ yesterday wanting to reinstall the kernel images into /boot/ and my wanting to fund out why grub couldn't find the root file-system
[13:26] <ikonia> user had removed/conflicted packages
[13:26] <ikonia> I'd like to see a simple data backup, and clean install using the internal disk - no external usb's etc etc
[13:26] <ikonia> run it - then put the data back on once happy it's stable
[13:26] <ikonia> but for some reason this seems to be being ignored, not even acknowledged by musclez despite being on day 3 of a non-working computer
[13:27] <musclez> Tj-: i backed up my statoverride and deleted any user that was not root, apt-get and dpkg still do not work
[13:27] <Alebin> I just wiped out win8.1 and installed ubuntu. I have some internal and some external drives, all ntfs. I have some media files (videos) on an external drive that gets auto-mounted in ubuntu and a mirror backup of those are on an internal drive that doesn't get automounted. I noticed there are at least 3 of those media files now missing, that I'm viewing the drive(s) in ubuntu. I haven't written anything to the drives, for fear of damagi
[13:28] <TJ-> musclez: ikonia: I agree, a clean install to prove/disprove hardware issues is vital
[13:28] <ikonia> musclez: why are you not even looking at the possibility of a full clean install ?
[13:28] <ikonia> I've been stating this to you for over 24 hours now, and you seem to ignore it and just continue down a path of no reward
[13:29] <TJ-> i14:13:00 <musclez>       TJ-: i was in the middle of making a new installaiton of ubuntu on another disk but the isntaller crashed
[13:29] <ikonia> "on another disk"
[13:29] <musclez> tj-: eveything was working fine until i messed with the kernels... i lost complete connectivity when i ran the boot-repair
[13:29] <ikonia> musclez: is there a reason you are purposefully (it seems) ignoring my advice ?
[13:30] <arex\home> I have the "mongodb" (2.4.9) package installed from the built-in repo, and I would like to upgrade to "mongodb-org" (2.6.10) from the mongodb.org repo. How do I do this with causing problems?
[13:30] <TJ-> musclez: Then you should ensure you have a  backup and then do a fresh clean install, and then reconfigure the trusted clean installed with your bakcup data
[13:30] <musclez> tj-: i can easily compensate for why it crashed... its also a differnt hard drive
[13:31] <musclez> TJ-: i was doing that, and then the crash... i'd still prefer to ressurct this disk as there was noting wrong with it until i removed kernels
[13:31] <ikonia> musclez: you can re-use the disk
[13:31] <ikonia> musclez: use a clean install on the same disk
[13:31] <ikonia> then just restore the data
[13:32] <ikonia> use the clean install for a period of time first, to gain confidence in the data
[13:32] <ikonia> sorry gain confidence in the new install
[13:34] <TJ-> musclez: the PC has a VG with 255GB - from the rescue boot you could shrink the file-systems and LVs in that VG if they are currently using all the VG's extents, then do a manual partitioning install using the same VG but with new LVs in the same VG
[13:35] <ikonia> please - just do a full clean install
[13:35] <Alebin> Anybody a clue as to why those files aren't showing up in ubuntu?
[13:35] <ikonia> no volume groups, new file system - lets get some confidence in the install
[13:35] <ikonia> sorry "new" volume groups
[13:35] <ikonia> I'd really advise you not to use encyprtion too - unless you %101 need it
[13:35] <ikonia> keep it simple and do a nice clean install
[13:35] <ikonia> get some confidence in the install/hardware, then put your data on
[13:35] <ikonia> it will take 20 minutes + backup/restore time
[13:36] <ikonia> 3 days v's 20 minutes
[13:36] <dhrosa> oh, WOW
[13:37] <dhrosa> that was confusing... I was running a VNC server on my remote machine, yet when I used the VNC client on my desktop I kept getting connected to the desktop itself, even though the desktop doesn't havwe a vnc server
[13:37] <dhrosa> I was running the vnc server on the remote machine byy sshing into it... with X forwarding
[13:37] <dhrosa> I'm surprised that worked
[13:39] <musclez> TJ-: if the hardware is faulty i cannot trust that method
[13:39] <ikonia> musclez: doing a clean install is a great way to test the hardware
[13:39] <musclez> Tj-: its not, but using the same disk to to check what you are talking aobut doesnt really make sense
[13:39] <ikonia> musclez: removing all doubt of the legacy install that you screwed up
[13:40] <ikonia> musclez: do you want to fix this now - yes/no ?
[13:41] <TJ-> musclez: you can use that method for a side-by-side install to make porting over the previous install and reclaiming the space it uses. I use that method for release-upgrades and other-distro installs (I break out various parts of the directory hierarchy into separate LVs)
[13:42] <ikonia> TJ-: I'd much rather he kept this simple
[13:42] <TJ-> musclez: It also allows me to boot other installs in virtual machines for testing.
[13:42] <ikonia> TJ-: he struggled with mkdir commands - I don't think this is a good approach
[13:42] <ikonia> a clean install with data only backup seems the best method
[13:42] <ikonia> if possible removing encryption
[13:43] <ikonia> and any other complexity not needed
[13:43] <musclez> its not really helping the issue, i can back up the data and resotre it.. im trying to avoid have to reconfigure the entire server
[13:43] <ikonia> musclez: you've already done that
[13:43] <TJ-> ikonia: I agree, I'm just pointing out 1 way to maintain the existing data on the disk rather than swapping out disks or doing a backup to external disk (since the history with not upsetting external disks is not good!)
[13:43] <ikonia> musclez: you've already re-configured the whole server for 3 days !
[13:43] <ikonia> TJ-: this is getting a bit old now - he either needs to get on board with this (ignoring this discussion is getting pretty rude)
[13:44] <ikonia> he has a usb disk
[13:44] <ikonia> backup
[13:44] <ikonia> clean install
[13:44] <ikonia> restore
[13:44] <TJ-> The problem with backing up the data is, if there is intermittent hardware-induced corruption then it may infect the backup, too
[13:44] <ikonia> thats why you take "data"
[13:44] <ikonia> rather than OS/app stuff
[13:44] <ikonia> so the whole new install, new VG's, new file system, no encyption etc etc, run it safely for X period of time, then restore user data
[13:44] <TJ-> Whilst I suspect hardware issues I always swap out the disk for a new one to avoid any possibility of making matters worse
[13:45] <musclez> TJ-: theoretically, any transfer of that data will not be "safe" if the hardware is "faulty".. another reason why i would like to ensure that the disk is unsalvagable before dismissing it as a hardware issue
[13:45] <ikonia> I don't think there is a hardware issue, (but I know why you are saying this) his corruption in my opinion was caused by all the messing with the disks he did
[13:45] <musclez> tj-: yes i think i am agreeing with you then
[13:45] <ikonia> musclez: best way to do it then is to backup now, remove any disk
[13:45] <ikonia> any warning / risk on the disk
[13:45] <ikonia> clean install on the same disk, run it, you'll be confident it works then
[13:46] <ikonia> once you're confident it works, put your user data back on it
[13:46] <TJ-> musclez: The disk is fine based on the SMART report; I suspect RAM or disk controller I/O issues, or just the after-effects of previous (bot not ongoing) file-system corruption. We already have evidence that the file-system on /dev/sda2 for /boot/ was heavily corrupted
[13:46] <musclez> Tj: i beleive the curruption occured when i ran boot-repair or possible when we changed the UUID
[13:47] <ikonia> I believe the corruption happened when you messed with the disk inside/outside the chroot at the same time
[13:47] <musclez> TJ-: there were no issues finding drives when the UUID was in its orriginal state
[13:47] <TJ-> musclez: The corruption we witnessed doesn't happen inadvertently ... something sprayed the file-system with random data
[13:47] <ikonia> so a clean install will remove that doubt
[13:47] <TJ-> musclez: do you have the option of swapping out the disk?
[13:47] <ikonia> TJ-: he was trying to solve his encyption, and wrote directly to the /dev device
[13:48] <ikonia> I suspect thats where his mess came in
[13:48] <ikonia> (could be wrong though)
[13:48] <musclez> TJ-: physiscally?
[13:48] <TJ-> ikonia: hmmm, yes, I can imagine that might not help, although I'm not sure how that would happen whilst still retaining the the majority of the file-system meta-data intact.
[13:48] <TJ-> musclez: Yes, physically!
[13:49] <ikonia> TJ-: hence my "not sure"
[13:49] <Alebin> I just wiped out win8.1 and installed ubuntu. I have some internal and some external drives, all ntfs. I have some media files (videos) on an external drive that gets auto-mounted in ubuntu and a mirror backup of those are on an internal drive that doesn't get automounted. I noticed there are at least 3 of those media files now missing, that I'm viewing the drive(s) in ubuntu. I haven't written anything to the drives, for fear of damagi
[13:49] <musclez> tj-: yeah but i was just doing it over usb cuz im lazy
[13:49] <ikonia> musclez: backup your data to the usb
[13:49] <ikonia> musclez: do a clean install on the existing drive
[13:49] <ikonia> it takes 20 minutes and you will have confidence
[13:49] <TJ-> musclez: If not, and you *have* to do a backup to an external device, you'll have to calculate a hash on the existing disk images and the backups to ensure they images are identical
[13:49] <ikonia> do you understand why I'm saying this over and over to you ?
[13:50] <musclez> tj-: the server is sitting in front of me
[13:50] <TJ-> musclez: 'lazy' has cost you several days of headaches so far
[13:50] <musclez> tj-: swappign my disk out doesnt solve the issue of my missing boot drive
[13:50] <ikonia> musclez: can you please acklowedge this
[13:50] <ikonia> musclez: why will you not do a clean install on your existing disk
[13:51] <ikonia> what is stopping you ?
[13:51] <TJ-> musclez: swap-out, test install as ikonia recommends, run for a while to be sure, then decide whether to import the configuration and data from the backup, or do something more complicated
[13:51] <musclez> tj-: my laziness is a euphimesm for the lack of documentation of the issue, please dont get it twitsted
[13:52] <musclez> tj-: i ran live usb over night... what exactly are we testing here?
[13:52] <MACscr> is there really not a simple way to limit the number of kernels that ubuntu keeps? Im getting inconsistent results from apt-get automremove. Both systems were created using the same pxe image, but autoremove seems to remove old kernels on one system and not on the other. Any suggestions?
[13:52] <TJ-> musclez: I used your own words; I have no idea you're using a euphemism
[13:52] <TJ-> musclez: That the SATA I/O controller isn't corrupting data
[13:53] <musclez> tj-: the drive, the sata port? my motherboard? psu?
[13:53] <musclez> ok
[13:53] <azamrod> hello
[13:53] <ikonia> TJ-: I'd be quiet intersted to know if it did
[13:53] <ikonia> re-install onto the same disk so it's a fair test
[13:53] <ikonia> save time on the swap out, just backup the data,
[13:53] <musclez> Tj-: so if i just swap to a differnt sata port, that will be alright iwth you?
[13:53] <TJ-> musclez: You can test everything else with the Live USB, but that's the one channel (plus the disk itself of course) where hardware issues could still be present.
[13:53] <ikonia> =mno
[13:54] <azamrod> ubuntu spain
[13:54] <ikonia> !es | ashleyis
[13:54] <azamrod> in spanish please
[13:54] <musclez> tj-, its not hardware.. my disk would be unmounting every 3 seoncds if that were the case
[13:55] <ikonia> musclez: no it would not
[13:55] <ikonia> a mount is not a valid test
[13:55] <TJ-> musclez: I think we've made it more than clear the best approaches and what they're intended to achieve. From now on it's up to you.
[13:55] <ikonia> musclez: do you want to fix this and get a clear understandign of the problem yes/no ?
[13:55] <azamrod> no
[13:56] <TJ-> musclez: No... I've worked on several very pernicious hardware bugs where the disk controller, or a marginally faulty cable, would introduce bit-flipping errors that didn't result in outright I/O command errors
[13:56] <musclez> tj- there is no kernel on the drive right now.. what do i do after the sata port is switch
[13:57] <musclez> TJ-: can you please control ikonia, i have him ignored for a reason
[13:58] <azamrod> hardware chumascado
[13:58] <never2far>  TJ-  it seems i still ned your help :( ...after mdadm --zero-superblock on the third disk (sdc2) ...server can't boot ...even if now sdc2 is a raid member ...i've booted back to the rescue cd but now this is hte error on update-gub: grub-probe: error: disk `mduuid/1329e75eeece5302a4d2adc226fd5302' not found  (that ID is equal to sda2)
[13:58] <never2far> do you have any idea ?
[13:59] <never2far> and is the same with what I get if i'm using: mdadm --detail /dev/md2
[14:00] <linux> ok
[14:02] <linux> usr/share/applications
[14:06] <linux> bye bye
[14:11] <TJ-> never2far: did you miss my last suggestion to you?
[14:11] <never2far> it's possible ..let me scroll back
[14:11] <TJ-> never2far: I've assumed, but not asked, if you ensured the hypervisor/BIOS is configured to boot from sda. it might just be a boot-order issue
[14:11] <Alebin> sudo ls -al would list hidden files, correct?
[14:12] <bekks> Alebin: No need for sudo
[14:12] <never2far> TJ-,  i get the same error even if i try grub-install /dev/sda
[14:12] <never2far> on every device i get the same
[14:12] <TJ-> never2far: at what stage does the boot cycle fail?
[14:12] <Alebin> bekks: yeah, but I'm being crazy desperate at this point
[14:13] <bekks> Alebin: Despair is no reason for using sudo.
[14:13] <bekks> Alebin: Whats the actual issue you are trying to solve?
[14:13] <Alebin> I just wiped out win8.1 and installed ubuntu. I have some internal and some external drives dedicated to storage, all ntfs. I have some media files (videos) on an external drive that gets auto-mounted in ubuntu and a mirror backup of those are on an internal drive that doesn't get automounted. I noticed there are at least 3 of those media files now missing, now that I'm viewing the drive(s) in ubuntu. I haven't written anything to the d
[14:13] <never2far> TJ-, i'm not at the console anymore (booted in rescue) but  ...i think it stops when it needs to find the mduuid
[14:13] <Alebin> ^ data
[14:14] <never2far> root@rescue:~# grub-install /dev/sda
[14:14] <never2far> Installing for i386-pc platform.
[14:14] <never2far> grub-install: error: disk `mduuid/1329e75eeece5302a4d2adc226fd5302' not found.
[14:14] <bekks> Alebin: So your backup does not contain all your files.
[14:14] <never2far> # blkid /dev/sda2
[14:14] <never2far> /dev/sda2: UUID="1329e75e-eece-5302-a4d2-adc226fd5302" TYPE="linux_raid_member"
[14:14] <linux> grub not found
[14:14] <TJ-> never2far: I mean, has the BIOS/firmware handed over to GRUB, does GRUB display the boot menu? All these things will tell us at what stage the boot is failing
[14:14] <bekks> Alebin: How do you create your backup?
[14:15] <never2far> yes it's at the grub display
[14:15] <TJ-> never2far: check the symlinks under /dev/disk/by-uud are there
[14:15] <Alebin> bekks: original nor backup contains the files, the only thing i changed was repartitioned the win8.1 drive and installed ubuntu 15.04 where that was.. i didn't touch the ntfs storage drives in question and all the files were there before the ubuntu install
[14:16] <linux> bios is the basic input optup system
[14:16] <TJ-> never2far: If this were just happening at boot-time I'd think that GRUB hasn't included the raid modules in its core.img
[14:16] <bekks> Alebin: So whats the actuall issue now?
[14:16] <bekks> *actual
[14:16] <Alebin> bekks: well the files went missing when i installed ubuntu
[14:16] <bekks> Alebin: I strongly doubt that.
[14:16] <linux> españoll
[14:16] <Alebin> bekks: but i haven't written anything to those drives.. haven't really touched them at all; not even opened any files
[14:17] <bekks> Alebin: Ubuntu cannot be installed on NTFS, so it doesnt touch it.
[14:17] <never2far> TJ-, i think you are right ...but i have a question also ... error: disk `mduuid/ .... mduuid should be equal to what i obtain by using blkid /dev/md2 ?
[14:17] <never2far> because it's not equal :(
[14:17] <Alebin> bekks: yeah, i got rid of win8.1; it was installed on another drive all together... an ssd and partitioned ext4 and installed ubuntu there
[14:17] <linux> spanish
[14:17] <bekks> Alebin: And if the files arent in your backup anymore, it must have been quita a time they got deleted.
[14:17] <bekks> !es | linux
[14:18] <never2far> is there any way i can force grub to recheck and reinstall all ? ...grub-install trows me the same error
[14:18] <Alebin> bekks: they were in the backup and original ntfs storage drives the very moment before i reset out of win8.1 and put the ubuntu installation media in
[14:18] <TJ-> never2far: grub-probe failing to find that ID is what makes be think there's something more to this, although grub-probe tries to use the same grub modules for discovery as it uses at boot time
[14:19] <Alebin> bekks: i checked all my backups to be sure they were up to date before i did that
[14:19] <bekks> Alebin: I doubt even more that Ubuntu deletes files in your original place AND in your backup.
[14:20] <TJ-> Alebin: Was the system using the SSD as a hybrid caching front-end a.k.a the Intel 'Smart Response' caching?
[14:20] <Alebin> bekks: i know right.. but that's what it seems like happened. The only other thing i found was some ntfs-3g bug about locales, but that apparently was fixed in 2009
[14:20] <bekks> Alebin: I still believe you deleted your files some time ago, accidentially.
[14:20] <Alebin> TJ-: no, the ssd was dedicated to win8.1 solely
[14:20] <linux> beeks
[14:20] <linux> estas usando el traductor??
[14:21] <bekks> linux: ne habla espanol.
[14:21] <linux> que?
[14:21] <EriC^^> !es | linux
[14:21] <Alebin> bekks: nope, like i said i was watching one of the videos shortly before the repartition/install for ubuntu and would never delete the files.... i would never delete anything from the folder that the files were in
[14:21] <TJ-> Alebin: Are you saying *all* files have gone missing from these NTFS file-systems, or just a small sub-set?
[14:21] <bekks> linux: No hablo español.
[14:22] <linux> yo hablo algo de ingles
[14:22] <Alebin> TJ-: well right now, i know of 3
[14:22] <Alebin> TJ-: by eyeballing the size of the directory, i have a feeling there's more
[14:22] <Alebin> TJ-:  but haven't verified that yet
[14:24] <TJ-> Alebin: So the internal/external drives contain NTFS file-systems containing these files. What tool is responsible for maintaining the backup state and what triggers it to be executed?
[14:24] <linux> hello bekks
[14:25] <Alebin> TJ-: it was a windows tool, create synchronicity; that was set to never modify the source of the backup, only synchronize it to the destination on a nightly basis.
[14:26] <Alebin> Alebin: the source drive is also relatively new (about 4 months or so i guess) and i've had no other problems out of it; while the backup drive is old, probably 5+ years; but no problems out of it either
[14:27] <Alebin> TJ-: it really looks like there's something maybe the ntfs-3g doesn't like about those video files.. that's why i was checking to see if they were hidden or anything
[14:28] <TJ-> Alebin: If one of those file-systems hasn't been mounted then ntfs-3g can't have done anything
[14:28] <TJ-> Alebin: Are you sure those 'missing' files aren't simply stored in alternate NTFS streams?
[14:28] <Alebin> TJ-: well i, probably stupidly, manually mounted the source storage drive to check it
[14:29] <Alebin> TJ-: alternate ntfs streams?
[14:30] <TJ-> Alebin: sure an NTFS file can contain multiple separate streams of data; usually only the default is used, but if the data were in an alternate stream I'm not sure ntfs-3g is stream-aware
[14:31] <TJ-> Alebin: to rule that out, refer to this: http://www.tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-manual/#5
[14:32] <Alebin> TJ-: yeah, that's a new one on me; i'm looking into it
[14:32] <TJ-> Alebin: I'm doubting it... but I have seen this fox users on rare occasions
[14:35] <linux>  español
[14:35] <linux> necesito ayuda en spanish
[14:35] <bekks> !es | linux
[14:36] <TJ-> Alebin: The other issue to consider is if the filename are in Win32 namespace they are legally allowed to contain a zero (0x00) byte. On Linux by default ntfs-3g will use the POSIX namespace which treats the 0x00 as the End-Of-String (EOS) character (as in C-strings).
[14:37] <TJ-> Alebin: are you able to attach the external drive to another Windows PC and check whether the files appear there? That'd be a quick way to analyse this
[14:38] <Alebin> TJ-: nope, no other windows pcs around
[14:41] <Alebin> TJ-: nope, not seeing them with the streams interface set
[14:43] <TJ-> Alebin: the only other 'hiding' possibility is the POSIX namespace issue, on that page I linked you to it shows also how to activate the windows_names namespace
[14:43] <TJ-> Alebin: I can't imagine how ntfs-3g would randomly remove the directory entries for those files, even if you tried to read the data from the files
[14:45] <DexterF> is there a "bleeding edge spanking new kernel" repository? I'd like to have 4.2 in a 15.04 machine as soon as it becomes released, any options here without compiling myself?
[14:45] <TJ-> Alebin: The only thing in that regard I could think of is if when you finally shutdown you didn't do a full poweroff shutdown (avoiding a 'faststart' hibernate shutdown), in which case the NTFS journal log may not have been flushed into the file-system.
[14:45] <TJ-> !mainline | DexterF
[14:46] <Alebin> TJ-: nope, windows_names doesn't seem to do the trick either
[14:47] <m1chael> i used dd to make a copy of a hard disk. the file ended up being exactly 250gb. the drive isn't full at all. i guess this is expected. how do programs like clonezilla and redo backup do this to produce smaller disk images (that only contain the actual data) for snapshot-like images of a hard disk?
[14:47] <TJ-> Alebin: I'm out of ideas then. Do you know the exact names of the missing files? I'm wondering if they could somehow have been cross-linked in which case a "find /path/to/ntfs/mountpoint -type f -iname '*pattern*' " might reveal them elsewhere
[14:48] <TJ-> m1chael: They recognise unused blocks and store metadata in their file-format about them
[14:48] <tomreyn> m1chael: they actually copy the file system in addition to the partition table
[14:49] <TJ-> m1chael: If I have a 1GB file-system and only 100MB is in use, I can simply store a table of unused block numbers and not copy those into the saved image
[14:49] <Alebin> TJ-: nope, find didn't return anything on them
[14:49] <TJ-> m1chael: The resulting backup will then be 100MB + my file format meta-data overhead
[14:49] <m1chael> TJ- i like that
[14:50] <TJ-> Alebin: I'm out of ideas then. If only a few files seem to not be there it's not like the file-systems have been reformatted
[14:50] <MACscr> anyone else had issues with their vlan's being renamed to renme9@bond0, etc?
[14:50] <MACscr> its really annoying and screwing up my network configs
[14:51] <TJ-> MACscr: sounds like a udevd race issue
[14:51] <MACscr> TJ-: probably. I am renaming my hardware network interfaces in general
[14:51] <MACscr> any suggestions?
[14:51] <MACscr> i need to rename them
[14:53] <TJ-> MACscr: deal with udevd - sounds like a persistent-net.rules issue
[14:54] <MACscr> TJ-: deal with it how? i have 70-persistent-net.rules setup to rename my physical network interfaces, which is working. Those obviously would rename before any actual networking is done, right? I mean, i wouldnt make sense for them not to.
[14:54] <MACscr> it*
[14:56] <TJ-> MACscr: If you've got vlan interfaces being renamed on top of other interfaces then udevd must be starting the interface renaming process and getting 'stuck' in the midst of the operation and leaving the interface in the 'rename' state
[14:56] <linux> ee
[14:57] <MACscr> im not renaming any of the vlans
[14:57] <MACscr> only the physical nics
[14:58] <TJ-> MACscr: "/lib/udev/write_net_rules" is supposed to avoid VLAN and Bridge interfaces
[14:58] <TJ-> MACscr:  that @bond0 suggests you're using Link Aggregation, is that so?
[14:59] <MACscr> yes
[14:59] <linux> I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin
[14:59] <MACscr> TJ-: full info http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2284121&p=13311712
[14:59] <TJ-> MACscr: so I'm guessing you've discovered a hole in udevd's renaming policy
[14:59] <linux> I need help
[15:00] <MACscr> linux: then ask an actual question
[15:01] <masgushi> i am getting APCI PCC probe failed message whenever i try o boot ubuntu 15.04
[15:01] <linux> battery applet appears in English in Ubuntu 12.04
[15:02] <linux> using the Spanish language with classic desktop environment gnome
[15:02] <TJ-> MACscr: OK ... this is a guess but ... your "70-persistent-net.rules" is matching on MAC address. Do any of those MACs get reused by the bond interfaces? if so, I can see how this might happen
[15:02] <Alebin> TJ-: well thanks for the help; i posted on the ubuntu forums, maybe someone there has another suggestion. It's a pretty weird occurence though
[15:02] <masgushi> then it goes into and says "file disk checking" or similar..and irrespective of whether i let it run or cancel it
[15:02] <TJ-> Alebin: agreed, intriguing :)
[15:03] <masgushi> it gives option of systemctl boot , systemctl default and journal ctl something
[15:03] <TJ-> linux: maybe the applet doesn't have a Spanish translation?
[15:03] <masgushi> only way to boot into ubuntu is by choosing systemctl default
[15:03] <MACscr> isnt Unity the only official one that is supported anyway?
[15:04] <MACscr> officially
[15:04] <masgushi> i read about it in forums..most say that it is harmless
[15:05] <MACscr> TJ-: when I look at ifconfig -a output, im seeing that bond0, br1, mlx1, rename9, rename10 all use the same mac address that is assigned to mlx1
[15:06] <linux> It can be, but if Unity shown in Spanish , goes classic gnome
[15:07] <TJ-> MACscr: of course, the vlans will use the same MAC address as the parent interface, which if is using one of the MAC addresses in your "70-persistent-net.rules" is going to try to be renamed but fail since an interface already exists with the target name. I think you just need to but a guard condition in there that jumps out of the file if the interface type is VLAN
[15:08] <TJ-> MACscr: maybe jumps out if the interface is a bond, too
[15:09] <MACscr> TJ-: i have no idea how that is done. any suggestions?
[15:09] <masgushi> please see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11788388/
[15:11] <random-user> Hey, I have a question concerning repositories and having up-to-date packages.
[15:12] <random-user> I'm on 14.04 and I've installed a few programming languages, namely Haskell.
[15:13] <random-user> The installed Haskell is 7.6, whereas the newest release is 7.8. I tried adding a PPA with the newest Haskell version but upon apt-get update and upgrade I was not given the option to update.
[15:13] <random-user> Same with Python 3, I'm on 3.4.0 and there's already a 3.4.2 out.
[15:13] <TJ-> MACscr: I'd think something like first line: " KERNEL=="vlan*" GOTO="end"   "    and last line: " LABEL="end"    "
[15:14] <cfhowlett> random-user, takes time for packages to be added to the mainstream repos and they often lag as you have noted.  options: 1. be patient  2. install from source
[15:14] <TJ-> MACscr: I'm not 100% sure the KERNEL name will be vlan* you'd need to check that with udevadm monitor whilst bringing up a vlan interface
[15:15] <random-user> cfhowlett: If I install from source, will I need to install from source again or is whatever's installed updated when I apt-get upgrade?
[15:16] <cfhowlett> random-user, installing from source bypasses apt management as I understand it. pretty sure you'd forced to manually take care of things
[15:18] <random-user> Ah, shit. Thanks for your help!
[15:18] <TJ-> random-user: re: the PPAs with updated versions. It may be the packages have the new version in their name to prevent conflicts with the archive packages, in which case an upgrade isn't going to install them - you'd need to install them explicitly
[15:20] <random-user> If they're labeled major.minor.patch are they labeled just with {{major}}?
[15:24] <masgushi> acpi pcc error ..anything that should be done about it?
[15:26] <TJ-> random-user: Looking at Herbery Riedel's PPA, you'd need to do "apt-get install ghc-7.8.4" to install latest stable 7.8 packages
[15:27] <random-user> If Xmonad depends on ghc will it be using the GHC that came with it or the one from the PPA?
[15:27] <TJ-> masgushi: No, it's simply reporting that the ACPI core probed for the new PCC service in the motherboard's firmware but didn't find one
[15:28] <TJ-> random-user: If the packages are correctly designed I'd think they'll make use of the 'alternatives' system to enable the user to choose which version is the default. "man update-alternatives" provides more information
[15:29] <masgushi> TJ-: ok...i am not able to boot normally and have to go through those sequence steps....  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11788388/
[15:29] <masgushi> i read on forums that it is harmless and also what you just said
[15:30] <masgushi> TJ-: is this message/error likely to get fixed by any future update or kernel upgrade ?
[15:30] <TJ-> masgushi: Your problem sounds more like something badly configured in the initial RAM disk (initrd), possibly due to the kernel update
[15:31] <TJ-> masgushi: That probe report is put there deliberately... it is informational only.
[15:31] <masgushi> ok
[15:31] <masgushi> what should be done now
[15:32] <masgushi> "badly configured in the initial RAM disk (initrd), possibly due to the kernel update"
[15:32] <masgushi> ^^is it harmful
[15:32] <masgushi> sorry i am absolute noob
[15:34] <TJ-> masgushi: I'm suggesting the update hooks that  are triggered when a new kernel is installed have somehow changed the initrd scripts and caused this, but it's hard to be sure of anything without being in front of a system in this condition. The fact you can manually cause it to start suggests that though, its not a hard-failure
[15:34] <MACscr> TJ-: sweet. Thanks for help. All i had to do was add DRIVERS=="?*" to my rules
[15:35] <masgushi> TJ-: thanks fir the help :).. could you suggest me some steps that i should take if necessary ?
[15:37] <TJ-> masgushi: the "file disk checking" suggests a file-system integrity check is in operation, and should be allowed to complete. Does the PC have large disks that might take some time to check?
[15:38] <adrmr> what is there to do here
[15:38] <masgushi> TJ-: it is a single 500GB HDD..and the file disk checking automatically aborts at 8% and goes to a black screen with those systemctl and journal options
[15:38] <TJ-> masgushi: does that not suggest that something serious might be wrong with the file-systems, or disk?
[15:39] <TJ-> masgushi: I'd suggest running the file-system checks manually before continuing the boot process. If there is an issue, you should then see more useful reports at the terminal
[15:39] <masgushi> ok :)
[15:40] <masgushi> could you tell me the commands TJ- :)
[15:40] <bodhi_zazen> Or run them from a live usb
[15:40] <TJ-> masgushi: You'd need to identify the device names containing the file-system(s), and then use "fsck /dev/sdXY" where X and Y are specific to your installation
[15:40] <masgushi> ok
[15:41] <TJ-> masgushi: As bodhi_zazen says, you'd probably be more comfortable booting a Live ISO image since you can run those commands and have access to many more powerful tools, and the Internet, at the same time
[15:42] <masgushi> TJ-: ok
[15:43] <masgushi> TJ-: i have 14.04.2 iso..should i go with that or get a more recent one like 15.04
[15:43] <adrmr> 14.04
[15:43] <masgushi> ok
[15:43] <adrmr> 15.04 still has bugs
[15:43] <TJ-> masgushi: No, that is perfect if its a Live Desktop image (not server)
[15:44] <masgushi> ok
[15:50] <Dreaman> nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ inxi -F
[15:50] <Dreaman> System:    Host: ubuntu-ivan Kernel: 4.1.0-040100-generic x86_64 (64 bit)
[15:50] <Dreaman>            Desktop: Unity 7.3.2  Distro: Ubuntu 15.04 vivid  bugs but work :)
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> !paste | Dreaman
[15:54] <Dreaman> ok
[16:04] <lesther> alguien aca??
[16:06] <TJ-> !es | lesther
[16:06] <lesther> como funciona esto??
[16:15] <Remoboth> Is there any way to check if the kernels I just blacklisted have been actually blacklisted?
[16:29] <bodhi_zazen> Remoboth, how do you blacklist a kernel ?
[16:30] <bodhi_zazen> you asking about kernel modules ?
[16:30] <Remoboth> YEs.
[16:30] <Remoboth> SOrry.
[16:30] <cemg> hello guys , i installed drop down terminal extension of gnome. but i cant create multiple tabs. CTRL+SHIFT+T doesnt work, do you guys use it ?
[16:30] <bodhi_zazen> reboot
[16:30] <Remoboth> bodhi_zazen-  Can I Check in the terminal?
[16:30] <bodhi_zazen> if they are blacklisted they will not load when you boot
[16:31] <bodhi_zazen> well, blacklisting implies preventing them from loading automatically when you boot ; so I know of no way other then to reboot
[16:31] <bekks> Unload the module.
[16:31] <bekks> No need to reboot.
[16:31] <bodhi_zazen> bekks, that is not testing blacklisting, lol
[16:32] <bekks> That is "producing the same result2.
[16:32] <azamrod> español
[16:32] <bekks> :)
[16:32] <azamrod> necesito ayuda in spanish
[16:32] <bodhi_zazen> yes, but that is not the question
[16:32] <SchrodingersScat> !es | azamrod
[16:32] <bekks> !es | azamrod
[16:33] <bodhi_zazen> bekks, "<Remoboth> Is there any way to check if the kernels I just blacklisted have been actually blacklisted?"
[16:33] <cemg> hello guys , i installed drop down terminal extension of gnome. but i cant create multiple tabs. CTRL+SHIFT+T doesnt work, do you guys use it ?
[16:34] <Remoboth> O.k.
[16:34] <bekks> bodhi_zazen: The answer to that question is "lsmod", not "reboot".
[16:34] <Remoboth> I guess the second thing yu guys told me to do last week...
[16:34] <Remoboth> Was to change the file path of the kernel modules.
[16:34] <Remoboth> FOr the firewire.
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> cemg  is that tilda or guake or so?
[16:34] <cemg> no
[16:35] <cemg> its native gnome extension
[16:35] <bekks> Remoboth: "change the filepath of a kernel module"?
[16:35] <cemg> tilda doesnt work with vte 2.91 so i cant use it :(
[16:35] <Remoboth> Yes, if I remember correctly.
[16:35] <bekks> Remoboth: I am wondering how that is accomplished :)
[16:36] <masgushi> TJ-: am on live disk..i ran fsck and got some response in terminal...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11788779/
[16:36] <cemg> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/442/drop-down-terminal/
[16:36] <Remoboth> O.k.
[16:36] <Remoboth> Maybe I misinterpreted...
[16:36] <Remoboth> Moving onto the next issue..
[16:37] <masgushi> TJ-: i noted down some part of the error after it aborted file disk checking at 13.2% and went into black screen..  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11788771/
[16:37] <masgushi> becoz of that i chose sda6
[16:39] <TJ-> masgushi: As I thought.... you've got a major disk failure issue there
[16:39] <masgushi> oh ok
[16:40] <masgushi> so i should probably back up data..and get a new disk? or is there something else that can be done :)
[16:42] <masgushi> "Superblock last mount time is in the future. 	(by less than a day, probably due to the hardware clock being incorrectly set)  Fix<y>?
[16:42] <masgushi> ^is it some small issue?
[16:43] <jacek> Hello everyone. Got problem with my laptop hp Comapq nc6320 running on ubuntu. I do hold the system and after that I cannot bring it back. I have to hard reset. What's it problem??
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> masgushi  I had a failing external USB disk, this saved my day... it deleted some (unimportant) files and repaired the disk in doing so... careful, backup if you're not sure... sudo fsck -TV /dev/blah
[16:45] <masgushi> ok
[16:45] <tomreyn> masgushi: it's most likely a minor issue
[16:45] <tomreyn> but backups are always good to have for sure
[16:45] <masgushi> ok thanks
[16:45] <masgushi> MonkeyDust: what does " sudo fsck -TV /dev/blah " do
[16:46] <tomreyn> masgushi: install an ntp client such as the "ntp" package provides when you'Re done
[16:46] <masgushi> ok tomreyn
[16:46] <tomreyn> an ntp client makes sure your computers' time stays in sync, so it should prevent this issue from reoccurring.
[16:47] <masgushi> oh ok
[16:47] <tomreyn> that's unless you also use a different OS on this computer which does not keep it in sync
[16:47] <masgushi> i have a windows 7 in the same disk
[16:47] <Hakatoah> Heyo :P
[16:47] <masgushi> it's dual booted
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> masgushi  what I described: it deleted a corrupt file (some harmless music files in my case) and repaired the disk in doing so
[16:48] <masgushi> ok
[16:48] <Hakatoah> Which is the "best" (do you see the quote, right :D) for Web development between MacOSX or Ubuntu (Dell xps..)?
[16:48] <tomreyn> so setup windows to sync to a time server (you can do so with elevated permissions in the time preferences, acessible by clicking on the time in the main windows panel) and make it use utc for the hardware clock, or make linux use the local time for the hardware clock.
[16:49] <hypernova_> hurm
[16:49] <Hakatoah> Which is the "best" (do you see the quote, right :D) for Web development between MacOSX or Ubuntu (Dell xps..)?
[16:49] <Hakatoah> ops
[16:50] <DJones> !best | Hakatoah
[16:50] <tomreyn> masgushi: read this on how to get a permanent fix for the file system issues https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Multiple_Boot_Systems_Time_Conflicts
[16:50] <DJones> Hakatoah: It depends on your use, you need to make the deicision
[16:50] <Hakatoah> DJones: what? I know "best" is subjective
[16:51] <usuario_> windows
[16:51] <usuario_> microsoft windows
[16:51] <masgushi> tomreyn: yes..reading thanks
[16:51] <tomreyn> welcome :)
[16:51] <tomreyn> !br | usuario_
[16:52] <tomreyn> whoops i mean to say:
[16:52] <tomreyn> !es | usuario_
[16:54] <usuario_> i am probleming with ubuntu precise pangolin
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> usuario_  let's hear it
[16:56] <ashab> Hello
[16:56] <bazhang> !precise
[17:02] <Dumle29> I seem to be having some issues with chromium when using gnome. Drop down menus in chrome open, but they are full of white (nothing) and clicking in the dropdown menu does nothing, however using my arrow keys allow me to go through the dropdown list.
[17:06] <hypernova> hello testing testin
[17:06] <hypernova> mabye my network card is now working?
[17:07] <Dumle29> seems like it
[17:07] <hypernova> hurm
[17:12] <masgushi> MonkeyDust: i actually forgot to note down the command...but i proceeded with yes in the terminal of live disk(since i had already all the back ups)
[17:12] <masgushi> could you tell me that command again :)
[17:13] <Dumle29> masgushi: How far back was it? I can check my backlog
[17:13] <masgushi> TJ-: after i proceeded with live disk and did yes to that one..i am no longer getting the file disk checking ..even though i still get the acpi pcc probe error
[17:14] <masgushi> Dumle29: would be in between 25 minutes by my guess :)
[17:14] <TJ->  masgushi: take precautions about those disk I/O errors... that suggests the drive and/or the controller have problems
[17:14] <Dumle29> masgushi: was it: 'MonkeyDust: what does " sudo fsck -TV /dev/blah " do '
[17:14] <masgushi> ok thanks Dumle29
[17:14] <masgushi> TJ-: ok
[17:14] <Dumle29> was that it?
[17:15] <masgushi> yes Dumle29
[17:15] <Dumle29> Cool :)
[17:15] <masgushi> btw i am wondering is it actually "blah"
[17:15] <Dumle29> masgushi: I think blah would be the disc you want to check
[17:15] <masgushi> yeah :)
[17:16] <Dumle29> masgushi: Something like sda, sdb, sdc, sdd, sde etc etc
[17:16] <masgushi> yes Dumle29..got it :)
[17:16] <Dumle29> I highly doubt you have anything in /dev/blah that fsck will read ;p
[17:17] <TJ-> masgushi: keep watching the kernel logs for other I/O disk errors... the disk is probably failing
[17:17] <TJ-> masgushi: you run the risk of losing all data if you don't have 100% backups
[17:18] <masgushi> ok TJ- it's been 3 years old now..i had it ubuntu 12.04 and win7 then
[17:18] <masgushi> i will take up more back ups
[17:18] <Dumle29> 3-4 years is where drive failure becomes a real concern if it's regularly used
[17:18] <masgushi> yeah..it's regularly used
[17:19] <scar> i upgraded to 14.04 LTS and the window manager is different and i'd like to switch back to the one i was using, but not sure what it was called...  i could place my mouse in the upper left corner and i would get to see all the windows i had open and switch between apps, anyone know what manager that is?
[17:19] <tertiary> I am installing Ubuntu 14.04 Server with a RAID1 (following: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/advanced-installation.html), but I cannot set the bootable flag to on. Anyone have any idea why this is happening?
[17:19] <masgushi> TJ-:  i noted down some part of the initial acpi pcc probe error at the start.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11788990/
[17:19] <Dumle29> scar: That's gnome
[17:20] <gfodranoel> Hi friends
[17:20] <Dumle29> scar: If you like gnome, there's a specific ubuntu distro using that, ubuntu gnome
[17:20] <scar> Dumle29, i tried switching to gnome but it was classic version with the applications menu at the top and window list at the bottom, so it wasn't exactly that...
[17:20] <masgushi> TJ-: could not get  "error: /dev/sdb : no medium found"
[17:21] <TJ-> tertiary: bootable flag where? In an MBR partition table?
[17:21] <Dumle29> scar: I believe it's gnome 3
[17:21] <TJ-> masgushi: not sure about that; looks like something expects to find a device on /dev/sdb
[17:21] <masgushi> hmm..ok
[17:22] <scar> Dumle29, ok, well the package "gnome" isn't installed so i'll try that
[17:22] <tertiary> Yes
[17:22] <bonhoeffer> after i run visudo and change settings, ubuntu prompts me to save to a .tmp is this the correct way to go?
[17:22] <Dumle29> scar: I'm running GNOME Shell 3.14.4
[17:22] <tonyyarusso> bonhoeffer: yes
[17:22] <bonhoeffer> how does that work tonyyarusso ?
[17:23] <bonhoeffer> and how would i use emacs?
[17:23] <tmotomm> Hey y'all. I'm trying to move /home to a new partition. I am following the ubuntu guide but I ran into the problem of dir already exists when i tried to create a new directory
[17:23] <Dumle29> scar: Try sudo apt-cache policy gnome-shell
[17:23] <scar> Dumle29, not installed
[17:23] <Dumle29> and it's 3.14.4 thats available?
[17:23] <tonyyarusso> bonhoeffer: visudo is a wrapper that makes sure you know what you're doing so you don't lock yourself out.  It saves to a temp file, then runs syntax checks against that to make sure it's still valid before moving it into the real file location.
[17:24] <bonhoeffer> tonyyarusso: oops -- so i overwrote sudoers
[17:24] <bonhoeffer> like a fool . . . (why is it asking for temp . .  )
[17:24] <bonhoeffer> but it doesn't look like the right change took -- is there a service to restart?
[17:24] <scar> Dumle29, i see gnome-shell:i386 3.10.4-0ubuntu5.2 available, but im using 14.04 LTS
[17:25] <tonyyarusso> bonhoeffer: If the change was for a user currently logged in, they'd have to log out and back in again I believe.
[17:25] <Dumle29> scar: Ah, I'm using 15.04. I'm not entirely sure if it's as simple as "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" You'd have to ask the others in here :)
[17:25] <bonhoeffer> hmm . . . tonyyarusso -- it is for an ssh login
[17:25] <bonhoeffer> so that should be working
[17:26] <scar> Dumle29, i'm installing "gnome" right now so we'll see if that does it....
[17:26] <Dumle29> I don't believe I have that installed
[17:26] <Dumle29> nope. I don't
[17:26] <flk> what's time
[17:27] <Dumle29> flk: One definition could be: the system of those sequential relations that any event has to any other, as past, present, or future; indefinite and continuous duration regarded as that in which events succeed one another.
[17:28] <Dumle29> scar: http://itsfoss.com/how-to-install-gnome-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[17:28] <Dumle29> scar: It looks like sudo apt-get install gnome-shell is the best way to go, as it's easily reverseable
[17:29] <scar> Dumle29, thanks i'll try that
[17:30] <Dumle29> scar: Might I recomend flat studio dark for gnome? http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/?content=154296
[17:31] <scar> Dumle29, yeah i like dark themes.... how do i install that?
[17:32] <Dumle29> You put the folder in ~.themes/
[17:32] <masgushi> TJ-: how could i view kernel logs? any commands or anything
[17:32] <Dumle29> sorry ~/.themes/
[17:33] <TJ-> masgushi: from a terminal: "ls -latr /var/log/" will list the logs files most-recently-updated last. "less /var/log/<filename>" will let you view and scroll through it (see "man less"). For kernel issues, see "/var/log/dmesg" for just the boot-time messages, and "/var/log/kern.log" for ongoing kernel messages
[17:34] <masgushi> ok..thanks
[17:35] <noob56kbps> hello i have a problem the pc doesnt want to do apt-get steam it s send an error
[17:35] <bonhoeffer> what do i need to do if i want to make it so a user doesn't need to type their password to sudo
[17:35] <Dumle29> noob56kbps: what error?
[17:35] <bonhoeffer> tim ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL in sudoers seems wrong
[17:36] <masgushi> thanks for all the help TJ- Dumle29 bodhi_zazen MonkeyDust Termana and others :)
[17:36] <BluesKaj_> bonhoeffer, it works
[17:36] <noob56kbps> Dumle29, http://pastebin.com/UB9iC8sv
[17:36] <scar> Dumle29, thanks, gnome-shell looks good!
[17:37] <Dumle29> scar: yay :D
[17:37] <joshh20> Does this make sense to anyone else? My SSH key isn't letting me log in - http://hastebin.com/icopibinuf.sm
[17:37] <bonhoeffer> BluesKaj_: ok
[17:37] <bonhoeffer> anyone know how to decode: spawn meteor ENOENT
[17:38] <azamrod> español
[17:38] <azamrod> necesito el irc de ubuntu españa
[17:38] <bazhang> !es
[17:39] <azamrod> español
[17:39] <azamrod> spanish
[17:39] <IdleOne> azamrod: /join #ubuntu-es
[17:39] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-es
[17:39] <BluesKaj_> !es | azamrod
[17:40] <azamrod> in spanish please
[17:40] <nacho123> hi
[17:40] <bazhang> azamrod, we just told you three times
[17:40]  * BluesKaj_ wonders if he finally got the message :-)
[17:41] <Spiderman> hi All, from a new ubuntu-user :)
[17:41] <rypervenche> Spiderman: Welcome :)
[17:42] <tomreyn> joshh20: according to this output you don't seem to have a dsa private / secret key in the default search location
[17:42] <joshh20> tomreyn, hmm, I am using RSA though
[17:42] <tomreyn> joshh20: you probably want to use rsa or ecdsa, too
[17:42] <tomreyn> joshh20: your client isn't configured to try thos,e though
[17:42] <Spiderman> Thank you, ryper.
[17:42] <joshh20> My client is OS X 10.10.3
[17:43] <joshh20> I think I made a config change
[17:43] <joshh20> tomreyn, for some reason I am able to SSH with keys into other servers, but not this one
[17:44] <azamrod> bazhang: que quieres decir?
[17:44] <tomreyn> joshh20: so which key do you expect it to use to authenticate? does the file exist, does it have the right permissions set on it?
[17:45] <Dumle29> !es | azamrod
[17:45] <azamrod> Dumle29: what's wrong with me
[17:45] <joshh20> tomreyn, I only have an RSA key on mu local machine, I am wondering if I messed something up on my server my changing file permissions
[17:46] <Dumle29> That's for spanish, if you can get help in english you are more than welcome here :)
[17:46] <BluesKaj_> Dumle29, it's been tried several times already , he doen't undertsand spanish I guess
[17:46] <Dumle29> Oh well
[17:46] <tomreyn> joshh20: are you using SSH profiles in ~/.ssh/config maybe?
[17:46] <tomreyn> joshh20: ...like for the other servers which you can connect to.
[17:47] <joshh20> tomreyn, I had one set on my local machine, but I just now deleted it and restarted the SSH service
[17:47] <joshh20> tomreyn, It doesnt seem to have changed anything
[17:47] <rypervenche> Spiderman: If you need any help with anything, please let us know :)
[17:48] <azamrod> Dumle29: Thank you
[17:48] <tomreyn> joshh20: you don't need to restart (or even start) the ssh service on your ssh client (i assume that's what you refer to as the local machine) to apply changes to the ssh client.
[17:48] <azamrod> Dumle29:
[17:48] <azamrod> but no one who speaks Spanish
[17:48] <tomreyn> joshh20: the ssh service is only for accepting inbound connections TO a system
[17:49] <joshh20> tomreyn, Ah ok, I wasnt aware of that, on the remote machine that I am connecting to, I just have these files in the .ssh folder "authorized_keys  id_ed25519  id_ed25519.pub  known_hosts"
[17:50] <Spiderman> well, thanks, I am pretty new to all of this :) I'll keep it in mind!
[17:50] <tomreyn> joshh20: authorized_keys is the file which should contain your ssh client's ssh public key.
[17:50] <joshh20> tomreyn, I checked, and authorized_keys does have my public key on the very first line
[17:51] <tomreyn> joshh20: the format is 1 key per line, make sure you don't have accidnetial wraps.
[17:51] <joshh20> tomreyn, Ok I'll clear the file and re add it
[17:52] <azamrod> Edu Guadalinex you tried ?
[17:52] <joshh20> tomreyn, Something is definitely off, when I try to add the key to the remote host, I get permission denied: http://hastebin.com/docipacuni.hs
[17:53] <snub23> Hi, would this be the right place to go if you are looking for help in the search for software?
[17:53] <snub23> yes, i have google
[17:54] <azamrod> What country are we talking about ?
[17:54] <OerHeks> snub23, for ubuntu, yes
[17:54] <SchrodingersScat> snub23: apt-cache search is also very helpful
[17:54] <snub23> cant find what Im looking for
[17:54] <tomreyn> joshh20: this command line may not work since you'll need to login using a password before the key is installed.
[17:54] <tomreyn> joshh20: do it manually
[17:55] <tomreyn> or use ssh-copy-id if that's available
[17:55] <snub23> I would like a sandbox where I can open a file and see the changes it makes
[17:55] <snub23> Like getting a log from an install but for hidden changes
[17:56] <azamrod> What country are we talking about ?
[17:56] <joshh20> tomreyn, on the remote host, when I try to cd into the .ssh folder, I get permission denied
[17:56] <stony2> Can anybody help me find my log files and maybe analyze why my ubuntu server keeps crashing a particular service?
[17:57] <tomreyn> joshh20: so you lack permissions to do so. are you root on this system? "ls -l ~/.ssh" (without quotes) shoudl show who owns the directory.
[17:58] <OerHeks> azamrod, this channel is ubuntu support in english only.
[17:58] <tomreyn> joshh20: it's also pssible that you have permissions but got them wrong earlier, and forgot to set the x flad on the .ssh directory
[17:58] <tomreyn> *flag
[17:58] <tomreyn> you'll need that flag set to allow changing into a directory.
[17:58] <zykotick9> tomreyn: s/changing/entering/
[17:58] <SchrodingersScat> snub23: I know docker.io has docker diff [container] which should show file changes.
[17:59] <azamrod> OerHeks: ok , but since the country is supposed to talk ?
[17:59] <tomreyn> zykotick9: thanks
[18:00] <joshh20> tomreyn, I just added the +x flag to the files, and now 'ls -l ~/.ssh" shows this: http://hastebin.com/mudibulaye.avrasm
[18:00] <snub23> SchrodingersScat, Thanks, will check it out!
[18:00] <tomreyn> joshh20: i said the .ssh *directory*, not to the *files*. files with +x are executable, you don't want that.
[18:01] <OerHeks> !ssh
[18:01] <tomreyn> joshh20: do this instead "ls -la ~/.ssh" and look at the "." entry, this is the very .ssh directory.
[18:02] <tomreyn> joshh20: but it's probably better start start from scratch now if you won't loose other configurations that way.
[18:02] <OerHeks> you'll need root access on the remote host to add ssh keys
[18:02] <zykotick9> tomreyn: ahh, i think you need -d for that to work.  like "ls -ad ~/.ssh"
[18:02] <joshh20> tomreyn, Ok yea I mean starting from scratch is fine, here is what the output shows: http://hastebin.com/uzefipafev.hs
[18:02] <zykotick9> tomreyn: oops, not -ad but -ld
[18:03] <tomreyn> right zykotick9
[18:04] <masgushi> tomreyn: my win7 is already set to utc..with time sync from time.windows.com..so now i should do as on that page to set hardware time on windows and then set ubuntu to a manual time? that seems alright?
[18:04] <joshh20> 'ls -ld ~/.ssh' gives me this 'drwx--x--x 2 backups backups 4096 Jun 28 13:58 /home/backups/.ssh'
[18:05] <tomreyn> zykotick9: so whoever "mc" is has write access to your home directroy. that's intended? other than that you seem to have repaired things fine.
[18:05] <tomreyn> joshh20: ultimately OerHeks is right, though. Unless the server has a default configuration and you don't need to debug things by inspecting the server logs, you'll need root access there.
[18:05] <zykotick9> tomreyn: sorry, i'm not following, "mc" <- ??  NOTE: i'm only seeing your side of this conversation
[18:06] <qu4nt1n> !s john oliver
[18:06] <joshh20> tomreyn, that was a mistake I made when trying to allow different users to view each others files, I tried removing the 'mc' user from the group, but didn't do it correctly... I also do have root access here
[18:06] <tomreyn> joshh20: line 4 of http://hastebin.com/uzefipafev.hs
[18:06] <NobCat> anyone fancy helping me out with a LVM2 partition?
[18:07] <zykotick9> tomreyn: ahh, .. is the directory above, so from ~/.ssh it's talking about ~ so that would typically be the user account
[18:07] <rypervenche> NobCat: What do you need help with? :)
[18:07] <tomreyn> joshh20: on the server, run this to prevent access by 'mc': chown :backup ~
[18:08] <NobCat> hi rypervenche, trying to mount it and i keep getting a "wrong FS type" message
[18:08] <NobCat> the fs type is "lvm2_member"
[18:08] <rypervenche> NobCat: Can you share what comands you have run with us please?
[18:08] <joshh20> tomreyn, wow I think that fixed it
[18:09] <joshh20> tomreyn, I am able to SSH into it now with the key
[18:09] <tomreyn> joshh20: good. it does some sanity checks before allowing you in there
[18:09] <TJ-> NobCat: You cannot mount an LVM physical disk
[18:09] <NobCat> rypervenche, sure. gimmie a few mins to paste bin it
[18:09] <joshh20> tomreyn, Ok, I read that somewhere, but my log wasn't very verbose, so I was uncertain the true cause of the problem
[18:09] <tomreyn> joshh20: if you reviewed /var/log/auth.log on the server you'd probably find a hint on that
[18:10] <NobCat> rypervenche, TJ-, to mount it the command i am using is "mount /dev/vg1/lv1 /mnt"
[18:10] <snub23> SchrodingersScat, Hmm, I provided no details, sorry, I need this to work for any kind of file. Lets say I open a .mp3 that has been tampered with, if so I want to see what it does
[18:10] <nszceta> how can I create an automatic installation configuration?
[18:10] <tomreyn> joshh20: that'S the server denying the client access, so you'd need to review the servers' logs, not hte clients'
[18:10] <NobCat> i have run "lvchange -ay" to make it active
[18:10] <nszceta> I set up one computer the way I want and I want to clone this config
[18:10] <SchrodingersScat> k, not sure what the difference would be
[18:10] <rypervenche> NobCat: That is fine, but either you didn't add a file system to it, or you are trying to mount the incorrect one.
[18:10] <TJ-> NobCat: First, you need to bring up the Volume Group with "vgchange -ay" which *should* discover the VG that owns the PV, then you can do "lvdisplay <VG-name>" to display the Logical Volumes, and *then* you can mount them using something like "mount /dev/mapper/<VGname>-<LVname> /path/to/mountpoint"
[18:11] <joshh20> tomreyn, I did check, I think my logging level isn't 'noisy' enough
[18:11] <NobCat> TJ-, done all that
[18:11] <joshh20> tomreyn, Anyways, thank you very much for the help, you saved me from having to do an OS reinstall :D
[18:11] <NobCat> the filesystem is listed as being "type=lvm2_member"
[18:11] <TJ-> NobCat: For /dev/vg1/lv1 ? in that case it sounds like you have a VG inside a VG!
[18:12] <tomreyn> joshh20: glad we worked it out. :) good luck. try using ssh-copy-id in the future where possible. it can prevent a lot of common pitfalls of doing it manually.
[18:12] <joshh20> tomreyn, I would, but unfortunately, Mac OS X still doesn't have that, I use it on my Ubuntu servers though
[18:12] <zykotick9> !cookie | tomreyn
[18:12] <joshh20> Yes he does!
[18:13] <NobCat> brb
[18:13] <tomreyn> that'll blend in well with my earl grey
[18:14] <TJ-> NobCat: alternatively, could 'lv1' be part of an LVM RAID device?
[18:15] <TJ-> NobCat: Try "file -s /dev/vg1/lv1" it might give more useful description
[18:15] <snub23> SchrodingersScat, I tried to read again and yes, this seems to be just what I was looking for. Not sure what happened. Thanks again!
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> tomreyn  earl grey... "très jean-luc picard"...
[18:20] <intuxicated> I'm trying to start mongod service, but "service mongod start" return nothing, any idea how i can debug this ? or fix this ? [I'm inside docker with ubuntu 12.04.5 official image]
[18:22] <OerHeks> service mongodb start maybe?
[18:23] <redstar> Hi guys I'm having a heck of a time getting my wifi working.  It's a PC and the WiFi is onboard my Asus Z87 pro motherboard. The wifi chipset is qualcomm atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter, and I've tried everything!
[18:23] <redstar> On the network manager menu it just says WiFi Networks: Disconnected
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> !atheros | redstar start here
[18:29] <allizom> Hi, I asked before about a computer that would not pass the login screen when using the nvidia proprietary driver. I've got it working with nouveau but the machine owner would prefer to use the screen at full resolution, something that nouveau won't do. I've done the following 1) put the nomodeset option in /etc/grub and ran update-grub 2) booted into an older kernel which I believe has worked before with the nvidia dri
[18:29] <redstar> MonkeyDust, I've tried all the suggestions there sadly. :(
[18:29] <bekks> allizom: How did you install the nvidia driver?
[18:30] <allizom> bekks: from the repos. 14.04 32 bits
[18:30] <Remoboth> FUckkk.
[18:30] <Remoboth> I can't get Ubuntu to create thumbnails for .cbz files in Thunar.
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> Remoboth  no such words here
[18:30] <redstar> BRB rebooting
[18:31] <bennypr0fane> Hi I have a strange situation: Wlan stopped working on my laptop. It used to work perfectly, I have no idea what happened. proprietary sta driver is in use for Broadcom chip. When I installed Xubuntu 14.04, the STA driver was loaded automatically and it worked out of the box
[18:35] <allizom> then I rebooted into the same older kernel (with nomodeset) but the issue is still there. bekks: I installed it with sudo apt-get install nvidia-current from tty1
[18:35] <buzz_> benny i assume you don't have an ethernet cable connected?
[18:40] <bennypr0fane> buzz_, I do, otherwise I couldn't be online right now
[18:40] <bennypr0fane> why you asking?
[18:40] <bennypr0fane> wifi wasn't working before I connected the ethernet, if that's what you mean
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> bennypr0fane  maybe you were online with another pc, using the cable...
[18:47] <bennypr0fane> MonkeyDust, I understand. How would that affect the wlan functionality of this pc?
[18:48] <bennypr0fane> MonkeyDust, * I DON'T understand, sorry
[18:49] <bennypr0fane> Is it generally possible that a new kernel version would break the wifi even though the proprietary driver was in use?
[18:50] <bennypr0fane> need to reboot, brb
[18:50] <geirha> yes, and you can test that theory by booting the previous kernel
[18:52] <tomreyn> i guess his reboot got in the way there
[18:52] <tomreyn> maybe he predicted your answer, though
[18:55] <allizom> Here's my Xorg.0.log in case it is useful. http://paste.ubuntu.com/11789452/
[18:56] <geirha> bennypr0fane: you rebooted to try the previous kernel?
[18:56] <bennypr0fane> ok, my wlan came back on
[18:56] <bennypr0fane> geirha, no, to finish updating the system
[18:57] <bennypr0fane> it seems the update actually fixed it
[18:57] <bennypr0fane> it came back on while installing packages
[18:57] <apb1963> My printer won't print anymore.  It leaves job in the pending state.  Any ideas?  Ubuntu 14.04 with KDE
[18:58] <bennypr0fane> apb1963,  are you managing it with cups?
[18:58] <apb1963> bennypr0fane: yes
[19:01] <bennypr0fane> apb1963, ok, then you're already doing what I would have advised...
[19:01] <quants> hi guys, is it possible to get windows 8 running on my ubuntu machine? ie having the option of switching to windows sometimes to run sertain software????
[19:02] <bekks> !dualboot | quants
[19:02] <quants> yes duelboot
[19:03] <k1l_> quants: see wine if you want to run windows software
[19:03] <k1l_> !wine | quants
[19:03] <quants> thanks guys,  i have a boot disk ?
[19:04] <bekks> quants: We dont know.
[19:05] <quants> bekks sorry yes i doo, ill give it a go
[19:07] <bodhi_zazen> Or run windows in a VM, such as KVM
[19:09] <vlt> Hello. How do I trigger "re-compiling" of a -dkms package I have installed on Ubuntu?  My asterisk server in Ubuntu 12.04 is unable to find the DAHDI pseudo device.
[19:20] <bodhi_zazen> sudo dkms build -m package_name
[19:20] <bodhi_zazen> sudo dkms install -m package_name
[19:22] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Thank you.
[19:22] <bodhi_zazen> np
[19:23] <vlt> # dkms build -m dahdi-dkms
[19:23] <vlt> Error! Invalid number of arguments passed.
[19:24] <vlt> bodhi_zazen: Any idea?
[19:25] <bodhi_zazen> sudo dkms build -m package_name -v version_number
[19:25] <bodhi_zazen> sudo dkms build -m example -v 1.1
[19:26] <bodhi_zazen> man dkms from there ;)
[19:27] <TJ-> If you use "sudo dkms install -m $PACKAGE -v $PACKAGE_VERSION -k all" it'll build and install for all installed kernel versions at one go
[19:27] <ioria> !info dahdi-dkms precise
[19:28] <vlt> TJ-: So what is $PACKAGE_VERSION here?
[19:29] <TJ-> vlt: when a dkms source package is installed it goes to /usr/src/${PACKAGE}-${PACKAGE_VERSION}/
[19:29] <TJ-> vlt: So in case there are different versions of the same package dkms needs to know which version of the package (sorry, module) to use
[19:30] <TJ-> vlt: I mixed my terms... in dkms -m $MODULE -v $MODULE_VERSION    replace those at will :)
[19:30] <vlt> TJ-: Ok, there's a .version file in there. Thank you.
[19:30] <TJ-> vlt: I hve my Debian packaging head on right now :)
[19:37] <bodhi_zazen> what TJ- said =)
[20:00] <ai6pg> holmesivonline.com
[20:00] <darkelfjuggalo> my RAM is maxing out with little running in the foreground, how can i end everything in the background?
[20:00] <dadis> i feel like an idiot can someone help me forward a port
[20:00] <dadis> i only have options to forward to ipv6 addresses
[20:01] <bodhi_zazen> darkelfjuggalo, top
[20:01] <bodhi_zazen> dadis, depends on your router
[20:02] <dadis> bodhi_zazen, its an Airport Extreme
[20:02] <darkelfjuggalo> bodhi_zazen, pardon?
[20:02] <dadis> i have really good internet so maybe the ISP doesn't masquerade and i don't need forwarding?
[20:02] <bodhi_zazen> darkelfjuggalo, run top in a termina;
[20:02] <dadis> im lost
[20:03] <darkelfjuggalo> Bodhi_zazen, done... do you want the output
[20:04] <darkelfjuggalo> nvm it keeps changing
[20:04] <bodhi_zazen> dadis, http://www.rainmachine.com/support/portforwarding/Port-Forwarding-Apple-AirPortExtreme-Router-for-HTTPS.pdf
[20:04] <bodhi_zazen> darkelfjuggalo, top will show you what is using your ram
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> or htop
[20:05] <darkelfjuggalo> but i cant read it to kill what i need to kill
[20:06] <bodhi_zazen> why not
[20:10] <nicolo> ciao
[20:10] <nicolo> !list
[20:21] <darkelfjuggalo> ok so, im confused by what is in my 'top'... it doesn't appear that my ram is maxxed out, but my fan is working overtime, only when im logged into the desktop... if i am on the login screen, it's calm and quiet...any idea what would cause it to rev that high?
[20:22] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: that doesnt have to do aynthing with ram usage.
[20:22] <k1l_> !ram | darkelfjuggalo
[20:22] <bodhi_zazen> darkelfjuggalo, what makes you think your fan is related to ram, more likely related to cpu or gpu use
[20:22] <bodhi_zazen> free -m | pastebinit
[20:23] <darkelfjuggalo> I know what ram is, but my experience has always shown the more that is running the higher my fan revs to compensate for the extra heat being generated
[20:24] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: ram doesnt make that much heat. its about the cpu and gpu that make the heat so the fan will spin
[20:24] <bodhi_zazen> +1
[20:24] <EriC^^> darkelfjuggalo: i think the fan rev would be a function of cpu load
[20:24] <bekks> darkelfjuggalo: "the more is running" means a higher CPU load, which leads to a higher temperature, which leads to your fans rotating faster. RAM is irrelevant at that opint.
[20:24] <bekks> *point
[20:24] <Koyaanis> I just broke linux
[20:24] <Koyaanis> well
[20:25] <bodhi_zazen> Koyaanis, best think about opensource, when you break it you get to keep both pieces
[20:25] <Nytram> darkelfjuggalo, If you have less than 4gb RAM try increasing your SWAP
[20:25] <bekks> Nytram: which will not help in lowering the fan rotation at all.
[20:26] <darkelfjuggalo> how do i increase the swap? will the swap increase stop the fact that everything keeps greying out and non responsive
[20:26] <bodhi_zazen> +1 bekks
[20:26] <Nytram> It did for me
[20:26] <bekks> Nytram: It technically cant.
[20:26] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: what machine is that? what cpu? how much ram? what does "free -m show (put in a pastebin please)? what ubuntu is it? what desktop?
[20:27] <Nytram> OK! Stay there. I did it. Not prepared to explain further. It just worked.
[20:27] <zykotick9> darkelfjuggalo: in top, it shows load in the top right corner, what is the first number?
[20:27] <yuciyuar> hi. with nautilus, when u right click to i.e sd card, there is an option, format, if u unmount card first. when click format, it asks for how to format, but when select format options and click ok, it doesnt do anything, any solution for this? ubuntu 14.04
[20:27] <darkelfjuggalo> Load average is ranging 0.49-0.65
[20:27] <bodhi_zazen> unmount it first =O0
[20:28] <nurfee> yuciyuar: Coulple of gui aps and the terminal.
[20:28] <zykotick9> darkelfjuggalo: that would indicate your CPU/IO is NOT particularly high!
 darkelfjuggalo: what machine is that? what cpu? how much ram? what does "free -m show (put in a pastebin please)? what ubuntu is it? what
[20:29] <darkelfjuggalo> k1l_ im woring on that
[20:29] <yuciyuar> nurfee,  cant we do this as simple as windows os, which seems there already a format button on nautilus file manager
[20:29] <yuciyuar> ?
[20:29] <Jakethepython> waht is teh benefit of a domain over a workgroup? and visa versa?
[20:30] <yuciyuar> but doesnt work
[20:30] <bekks> Jakethepython: Thats a particular windows question.
[20:30] <darkelfjuggalo> where do i find the CPU and RAM? i thought details, but no
[20:30] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: "lshw"
[20:30] <Jakethepython> yes...i am setting up a network that must have windows and linux machines...
[20:30] <nurfee> yuciyuar: I would just install gparted, it is very similar to the windows partition manager.
[20:31] <Jakethepython> and i knwo that they are completely differne things
[20:31] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: is it a laptop?
[20:31] <Jakethepython> i am just trying to figure out which one i should set up
[20:31] <bekks> Jakethepython: And "domain" and "workgroup" are windows issues :)
[20:31] <bodhi_zazen> for memory use free -m
[20:31] <zykotick9> for cpu you can use "lscpu"
[20:31] <Jakethepython> ok...what are they called in linux ::)
[20:31] <bekks> Jakethepython: There are no such things in Linux.
[20:31] <nurfee> yuciyuar: Not exactly what you want, others may have that answer is all, I don't, sorry.
[20:32] <yuciyuar> i was curious about nautilus option, but seems dont know anyone here, thnx anyway nurfee
[20:33] <nurfee> yuciyuar: No problem, personally I want more control than the right click make a partition, I have a habit of making new partiotion tables a s well.
[20:33] <bodhi_zazen> cpu load : top -bn1 | grep "Cpu(s)" |            sed "s/.*, *\([0-9.]*\)%* id.*/\1/" |            awk '{print 100 - $1"%"}'
[20:33] <bodhi_zazen> 8.7%
[20:34] <darkelfjuggalo> k1l_ all answers here: http://pastebin.com/dPAamm3b
[20:35] <nurfee> Jakethepython: Curious, is this a educational project?
[20:35] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: ok, you already have a swap. but its not used because you only use ~1GB of your 8GB ram.
[20:36] <Jakethepython> not really..what i am doing is i have a storage server running ubuntu..and i want to set up partitions so that all of my computers map to this..but only allow certain permissions to vertain computers/users
[20:36] <k1l_> darkelfjuggalo: its a i7 cpu in a toshiba laptop. so that might be the reason for the fan to spin often
[20:36] <DX099> kirkland: hi. I'm trying to recover an ubuntu encrypted home from an Arch system. I'm using the ecryptfs-recover-private utility. It finds the encrypted home, I provide the good passphrase, but the mounting fails : "ERROR: Failed to mount private data at [/tmp/ecryptfs.whateverrandom]."
[20:36] <DX099> could you help me,
[20:36] <DX099> s/,/?
[20:36] <darkelfjuggalo> can i fix it internally or is it a hardware issue?
[20:37] <zykotick9> DX099: unhelpful-sidenote-for-future, I'd strongly suggest using LUKS over "encrypted home" in future... YMMV.  good luck.
[20:38] <bodhi_zazen> DX099, probably nothing you can do to recover
[20:38] <bodhi_zazen> +1 to LUKS
[20:39] <DX099> zykotick9, bodhi_zazen, I have the good passphrase and the data are there
[20:39] <bodhi_zazen> I am sure the data is there, the problem is it is encrypted
[20:39] <DX099> I have both the LOGIN and the unwrapped passphrase
[20:39] <bodhi_zazen> I would try decryting from ubuntu in the unlikely event there is some difference with the arch packages
[20:40] <zykotick9> DX099: sorry, i have close to zero experience with "encrypted home" i'm NO help.  (/me just knows it breaks hibernation by default, so he doesn't use it)  good luck.
[20:40] <DX099> bodhi_zazen: in fact, the Ubuntu install is still there and works perfectly
[20:40] <DX099> I would like to be able to mount the encrypted home from Arch without having to move all the files
[20:41] <TJ-> DX099: It sounds more like an issue with the /tmp/ filesystem where the mountpoint is being created
[20:41] <DX099> TJ-: yes it could be... Space ?
[20:41] <EriC^^> DX099: try with sudo maybe as a test
[20:41] <DX099> EriC^^: that utility won't run unless with sudo anyway
[20:41] <bodhi_zazen> File a bug with arch ?
[20:41] <bodhi_zazen> =)
[20:41] <EriC^^> DX099: can you choose where to mount it?
[20:42] <darkelfjuggalo> I've been working on installing lubuntu to a netbook, but the usb loads console not the installer[windows desktop reads the thumb drive as lubuntu installer] i have asked lubuntu channel and gotten no where
[20:42] <DX099> EriC^^: If I tweak the script of the utility, certainly
[20:42] <bodhi_zazen> I would use LUKS rather then ecrpytfs for this DX099
[20:42] <bijan_> Just did an apt-get install mysql-server-5.6 and it quits with this error: invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.6 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:43] <nurfee> darkelfjuggalo: What usb loader was used?
[20:43] <TJ-> DX099: I've dealt with ecryptfs recovery many times, and you sound like you've done everything correctly. It's unwrapping so it's found /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.ecryptfs/ and the user's wrapped-passphrase
[20:43] <DX099> bodhi_zazen: yeah I know, but when considering the options, I recall having a problem with LUKS about partition
[20:43] <bijan_> On a fresh box!
[20:43] <DX099> TJ-: Yeah, the problem looks like it's typîcally a mount failure "ERROR: Failed to mount private data at [/tmp/ecryptfs.xxx]."
[20:43] <bijan_> shouldn't mysql run out of the box without problems on an LTS version?
[20:44] <TJ-> DX099: If you know the tool, I'd be tempted to run the script under strace, with "strace -f -e trace=file ecryptfs-recover-private" and see if it reveals the cause of the mount failure
[20:44] <darkelfjuggalo> nurfee; i dont know can you explain where to find the usb loader information?
[20:44] <EriC^^> DX099: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering_Your_Data_Manually
[20:45] <nurfee> darkelfjuggalo: So, we can assume you are not familiar with loading an iso to a usb, per a gui app or the terminal?
[20:46] <darkelfjuggalo> i used unetbootin, sorry
[20:46] <DX099> TJ-: I've done EXACTLY that, no usefull intel came out. But I'll try with -f
[20:46] <darkelfjuggalo> unetbootin is what i have always used
[20:46] <TJ-> DX099: "-f' follows any child processes, which you'll need when executing a script
[20:46] <DX099> EriC^^: I'm reading that, that's where I found out those commands to begin wit but thanks
[20:46] <nurfee> darkelfjuggalo: Ah, thought so it has this issue, use another there are handfuls to choose from. What OS are you doing the usb load in?
[20:47]  * zykotick9 thinks unetbootin should _ONLY_ be used, as a last resort... <- with hybrid ISOs like ubuntu/debian
[20:47] <DX099> TJ-: yes, since mount is being called by the script, it makes sense
[20:47] <darkelfjuggalo> win 8, i was trying on my ubuntu 14.04, but unetbootin's inux version was still downloading as an exe
[20:48] <nurfee> darkelfjuggalo: Two mistakes, never use unetbootins downloads, or anything more than a last resort, as another commented thay have not really kept up with the hybrid iso's
[20:50] <darkelfjuggalo> ok so what should I use? is there no whay to tell the console to run the installer from the initramfs command line available?
[20:50] <nurfee> darkelfjuggalo: Few choices here, try another, check the md5sum in there two, and be sure your up on UEFI if it is there. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[20:50] <mac33> hi to everyone
[20:50] <Jo5h-> Doh I think I answered my own question
[20:50] <Jo5h-> I need your advise here
[20:50] <mac33> Has somebody had a problem with firefox 38 (running with ubuntu 15.04) while listenig sounds (flash plug-in).....I cannot hear any sounds (es. web radio, google traslator)
[20:51] <nurfee> darkelfjuggalo: People have gotten past the error, however personally I just find tools that plug and work.
[20:51] <zykotick9> darkelfjuggalo: fyi, from gnu/linux (and with ubuntu/debian ISOs) you can use "sudo cp foo.iso /dev/sdX" <- where sdX is sdb,sdc,etc and WITHOUT a partition number!  then run "sudo sync" after it finishes.
[20:51] <TJ-> DX099: the command that fails and issues that error is: "mount -i -t ecryptfs -o "$mount_opts" "$d" "$tmpdir"   "
[20:52] <Jo5h-> I have a few Windows XP era machines I am fixing.... Need new OS... I originally thought to put XP on them... then thought, no, Win2k is rock solid and I loved it.. THOUGH, the nI thought about Ubuntu?? 12.04 specifically... drivers may be an issue and they would be used as fileservers/dev web servers / cron server rsync crap ....
[20:52] <nurfee> mac33: You get the flash update lately, most like so.
[20:52] <Jo5h-> also I can terminal into the machines :) What would you guys do??
[20:52] <DX099> TJ-: tsk, I can see where mount is failing with F, but I can't get the reason
[20:52] <Fyxi> http://s3.postimg.org/vbmjbumvn/wat.png
[20:52] <Fyxi> how this icon and gui is called?
[20:52] <Jo5h-> Use the XP era machines as ubuntu servers maybe desktop? Would desktop ubuntu slug it down??
[20:53] <rulezneon> En verdad hay gente para chatear aquí?
[20:53] <DX099> TJ-: the temporary directory is being created without problem
[20:53] <rulezneon> ¡Es un milagro!
[20:53] <rulezneon> jajajajaja
[20:53] <rulezneon> ciao
[20:53] <mac33> nurfee: I did but seems no works
[20:53] <DX099> TJ-: but I can't see which directory mount is looking that it doesn't find
[20:53] <TJ-> DX099: does the recovery system have the ecryptfs kernel module loaded?
[20:53] <nurfee> Jo5h-: Tons of tiny linux and server setups, do the research, hardware there is the key.
[20:54] <DX099> TJ-: yes, it's loaded
[20:54] <tarari> mujeres todas a mi
[20:54] <TJ-> DX099: don't be fooled by the failure being a missing mountpoint - any failure by mount will show that issue. Does the strace show in detail what mount is doing when it fails? mayve you could pastebin the last 50 lines of the strace?
[20:54] <nurfee> mac33: Sound works everywhere else? I doubt I can really help, just wondering.
[20:54] <TJ-> DX099: do you have the /sbin/mount.ecryptfs
[20:55] <azamrod> tarari hablas español?
[20:55] <bekks> !es | azamrod
[20:56] <azamrod> /sbin/mount/.ecryptfs archive not found in ubuntu
[20:56] <azamrod> bekkss
[20:56] <azamrod> helo¡¡
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Jo5h-: As a General rule, old hardware equals (L)ubuntu. on the desktop 12.04 in the sisters was supported for 3 years and the desktop now is out of support, install 14.04 (l)ubuntu .
[20:57] <DX099> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11789990/
[20:57] <mac33> nurfee: sound system is OK. But with an update from firefox 37 to 38 I cannot hear any sounds with some website (like web radios or google sound traslator)
[20:57] <DX099> TJ-: the mount utility is being found. You can see the mount process starting in the log
[20:58] <TJ-> DX099: line 33
[20:58] <nurfee> mac33: Any errors you could share? you have flash running if needed, no filtering? Have you ran firefox with all addons off?
[20:59] <TJ-> DX099: The only thing I see there that makes me wonder, is that you're running the command from the .Private directory... have you tried running it from the parent directory instead?
[21:00] <mac33> this is strange...... cause I don't get any error but no sounds.....and I also tried to switch off any other add-os or plug-in but flash
[21:00] <zykotick9> mac33: do you have more then one audio device on your system?  "cat /proc/asound/cards" is card0 the one you want to be using with firefox?  <- i've personally run into an issue if my desired audio device is NOT card0 with firefox.  best of luck.
[21:00] <mac33> nurfee: this is strange...... cause I don't get any error but no sounds.....and I also tried to switch off any other add-os or plug-in but flash
[21:00] <DX099> TJ-: I will but this is disingenuous as the script looks for the .ecryptfs dir in ../ . This makes me want to be in .Private so that I can unwrapp with LOGIN
[21:01] <azamrod> ubuntu mate
[21:01] <azamrod> is a new distribution of Ubuntu. Download of www.ubuntumate.org
[21:01] <mac33> nurfee: I googled my problem but it seems unknown
[21:02] <DX099> TJ-: same result anyway
[21:02] <nurfee> azamrod: Take that somewhere else.
[21:03] <nurfee> that is bounds for being not led on the channel a redirect to a sell
[21:03] <nurfee> let*
[21:03] <DX099> TJ-: but yeah, maybe it's a path problem. will try with $PD
[21:03] <DX099> s/$PD/$PWD
[21:03] <mac33> zykotick9: ok let me check
[21:03] <TJ-> DX099: Hmmm, that's a good point. It was the only thing I could see. OK do the strace -f once more but don't add "-e trace=file" - capture *everything* and you'd best feed it to a log-file!!! "strace -f  ecryptfs-recover-private |& tee /tmp/ecryptfs.log"
[21:04] <darkelfjuggalo> so while i am working on that, can anyone tell me what would periodically  freeze my applications from start up.. so freeze and crash, some freeze and come back... this chat does it every 2 to 3 minutes
[21:05] <DX099> TJ-: still fails. I'll try adding -v flag in the utility script :/
[21:05] <nurfee> darkelfjuggalo: number of reason swapping would my first thought
[21:05] <bodhi_zazen> darkelfjuggalo, crappy graphics or wireless drivers
[21:05] <AceKing> I just completed a manual install of Ubuntu 15.04 64 bit onto my PC. I have it dual booting with Windows 7. For some reason I cannot boot into the grub menu. It will only boot into Windows 7. I can boot into Ubuntu if I use "Super Grub Disk" and find any OS. I tried running sudo grub-install /dev/sda  but still cannot boot into grub. Any help is much appreciated
[21:06] <darkelfjuggalo> how can i check the driver versions  and/or update them?
[21:06] <nurfee> AceKing: You in ubuntu now?
[21:06] <bodhi_zazen> AceKing, secect which os to boot in your bios
[21:06] <azamrod> nurfee
[21:06] <AceKing> nurfee: yes
[21:07] <nurfee> AceKing: Cool, you have good help, carry on.
[21:07] <AceKing> bodhi_zazen: I tried that. Old BIOS, doesn't have that option
[21:08] <MrNiceGuyKB> hi. I'm running windows 7 and ubuntu 14.04. I want to install windows 8. is there anything I should do before running the win 8 install?
[21:08] <bodhi_zazen> MrNiceGuyKB, back up your data
[21:08] <nurfee> MrNiceGuyKB: This a msdos W7 setup?
[21:08] <AceKing> nurfee: did you have any ideas other than the BIOS?
[21:08] <lixunero> windows is a better operating system
[21:09] <MrNiceGuyKB> yeah, backup is done.
[21:09] <MrNiceGuyKB> nurfee, I don't understand
[21:09] <Guest90976> just formatted a 1tb drive that had debian 8 jessie and replaced it with Xubuntu (which loads great) now grub goes to grub rescue, but I have windows 10 and elementary os on two other drives, how can I get back into either of the two oses
[21:09] <nurfee> AceKing: pastebin sudo fdisk -l  helps to see HD info
[21:10] <MrNiceGuyKB> I just want to make sure win8 won't completely ruin my ubuntu install
[21:11] <nurfee> MrNiceGuyKB: Ah, msdos is the standard set up (windows) till we got to UEFI and gpt with W8. W8 will install in the standard setup with no issues.
[21:11] <AceKing> nurfee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11790055/
[21:11] <MrNiceGuyKB> nurfee, so windows 8 installer shouldn't damage anything, right?
[21:12] <Grubthumped> i am downloading grub repair iso and going to burn to cd to try to repair the boot loader
[21:12] <Grubthumped> is that the best thing to do?
[21:12] <nurfee> AceKing: Try putting grub in the linux HD shows as sdb here and boot with the HD, unless this is a slave issue.
[21:12] <OerHeks> MrNiceGuyKB, sure windows 8 installer ruins your mbr, you have to fix that later
[21:13] <nurfee> MrNiceGuyKB: Your asking for confirmation no one can truly  make, back it all up no matter what always. To many varibles bro.
[21:13] <MrNiceGuyKB> yeah I know. well, I'm  going to give ti a try. thanks anyway! :)
[21:14] <AceKing> nurfee: OK, so I would just use this command sudo grub-install /dev/sdb am I right.. Just want to make sure before I do it
[21:14] <allizom> could anybody take a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/11789452/ (Xorg.0.log) and see whether there is anything that could prevent starting a graphical login? I see a black screen after logging in, for all users. Using nvidia-current driver
[21:14] <nurfee> AceKing: One thing first, you have 4 linux partitons can you lay out whats there.
[21:14] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: Single hard drive, not a problem with boot-repair, multi-disks, then if not carful grub gets installed on all drives, may not be what you want ?
[21:15] <Grubthumped> bashing-om I have 5 drives, one has windows 10, one has elementary, one had debian 8
[21:16] <Grubthumped> unplugged other drives except the debian and installed Xubuntu, which loads fine, but if I choose the regular drive where grub loaded from it goes to grub rescue
[21:16] <AceKing> nurfee:  sda1 is my Windows partition, and sda2 is my Ubuntu partition
[21:16] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: Boot-repair -> advanced options . and be careful ! ( I am the more comfortable manually installing grub where it is required ) .
[21:17] <nurfee> AceKing: Really it may be that sdb is being read first and has the widows boot, have we been able to choose from either HD to boot first, seems not?
[21:17] <Grubthumped> what is the best suggestion If I have all 3 oses?
[21:17] <Grubthumped> Elementary OS, Windows 10, and now Xubuntu
[21:17] <Grubthumped> all on different drives
[21:18] <Grubthumped> and 2 other storage drives, which for some reason Xubuntu don't see :-(
[21:18] <Grubthumped> brb
[21:18] <AceKing> nurfee: It's kind of odd, because I only have one other HD attached, and it's just a storage drive. I just looked at it to make sure that it wasn't overwritten. It only has one partition.
[21:19] <nurfee> AceKing: unplug it and run the fdisk -l command again and try a boot as well.
[21:20] <nurfee> AceKing: I don't think loading a boot at this point is needed, just getting to the HD to boot it.
[21:20] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: From a liveDVD of ubuntu ; ' sudo parted -l ; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt /dev/sda ; sudo umount /mnt ' // where sda is the target, change as required . reboot, change bios to boot the correct drive .
[21:20] <AceKing> nurfee: OK, I will give it a shot... Thank you
[21:22] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: Wait ^^ Windows 10 is EFI . The above is for a MBR install .. hang on .
[21:22] <tomreyn> allizom: your kernel is a little out of date. but other than that - nothing obviously wrong
[21:23] <allizom> tomreyn: I tried an older kernel on purpose, to check whether there was an incompatibility with the latest one
[21:23] <tomreyn> allizom: check Xorg.*.log, too - the problem could be with a different display
[21:23] <TJ-> DX099: I've tested here and I can mount an ecryptfs manually quite easily in 2 steps
[21:23] <DX099> TJ-: ok, must be something specific, I'll try manually
[21:24] <tomreyn> allizom: so you did not make any changes to your video stack and the problem started just due to installing updates?
[21:24] <allizom> tomreyn: thanks for the suggestion, I will collect them all
[21:24] <allizom> It's not my computer, they told me so though
[21:24] <TJ-> DX099: "sudo ecryptfs --fnek" ... and capture the second token's 'sig'
[21:25] <nurfee> allizom: Have you tried running the drivers bfrom the additional drivers, rather tha propietary, which are not supported here?
[21:25] <DX099> TJ-: I don't have the "ecryptfs" command
[21:26] <TJ-> DX099: then "sudo mount  -t ecryptfs /path/to/.Private /path/to/mountpoint" ... and accept default answers except for encrypted filenames, which should be YES, then provide the captured sig when asked, don't worry about the mount warnings (answer yes), don't cache the sig (answer no)
[21:26] <DX099> TJ-: ok
[21:26] <allizom> nurfee: I don't understand what you mean, I installed the nvidia driver from the official repositories
[21:26] <TJ-> DX099: "sudo ecryptfs-add-passphrase --fnek" ... and capture the second token's 'sig' --- sorry about the typo
[21:26] <DX099> TJ-: that I have ^^
[21:27] <nurfee> allizom: Ah, you have been saying propietery is all, as if from nvidia is all.
[21:27] <OerHeks> allizom, what nvidia videocard is that? lspci | grep VGA
[21:27] <tomreyn> nurfee: this statement is misleading since those available on the "additional drivers" UI can be proprietary as well.
[21:27] <DX099> TJ-: so this is the 32 chars alphanumerical passphrase?
[21:28] <allizom> OerHeks: it's a Geforce 7300 LE
[21:28] <nurfee> tomreyn: Yes, it seems that detail is generally left out.
[21:28] <lixunero> what?
[21:28] <TJ-> DX099: no, it's a 16 hex chars (8 bytes) sig value reported by ecryptfs-add-passphrase
[21:29] <DX099> TJ-: OK, but the passphrase I had to enter was indeed the 32 hex char unwrapped passphrase
[21:30] <nurfee> tomreyn: You're not the first to help this is 24 hrs at the least in time spent.
[21:31] <moonlander> do the 850 evo drives still have issues with the firmware on linux? thinking about getting one
[21:31] <moonlander> oops wrong channel
[21:31] <tomreyn> nurfee: sorry for phrasing this in a aggressive way, i didn't mean to.
[21:33] <nurfee> tomreyn: I knew what you meant overall, It can be difficult to be exact everywhere, as hard as you try to phish the users. )
[21:34] <nurfee> we do have the greek chorus of the regular IT users however
[21:34] <AceKing> nurfee: Just wanted to come back to say thank you!
[21:35] <DX099> TJ-: it worked :)
[21:35] <DX099> TJ-: thanks a lot
[21:35] <TJ-> DX099: nice one :)
[21:35] <nurfee> AceKing: Cool, that got you booting sounds like.
[21:35] <perra> (From a newbie). Does anyone think its possible to take advantage of machine learning for the process scheduler in Linux?
[21:35] <AceKing> nurfee: It sure did. You ROCK my friend!
[21:36] <nurfee> AceKing: Probably, just run a sudo update-grub without the external, as well.
[21:45] <eXistenZe> hey guys... what's the best way to install wine? apt-get?
[21:46] <adam__> eXistenZe, yes
[21:48] <sixunhuit> Hi guys! I got frequent freezes (1 every 2 days) and problems when rebooting. I don't know where to start to troubleshoot. Any ideas?
[21:49] <nurfee> sixunhuit: You done any hard shutdown?
[21:49] <OerHeks> run memtest86 from grubmenu
[21:49] <kostkon> eXistenZe, there is also the wine ppa (click download on winehq) and the bleeding wine-staging compholio ppa http://www.webupd8.org/2015/06/get-new-wine-features-faster-with-wine.html
[21:50] <sixunhuit> yep.
[21:50] <sixunhuit> No problem on that side.
[21:50] <nurfee> sixunhuit: Please use nicks and be exact in what your answering.
[21:51] <meisth0th> hello, i am getting this message when I try apt-get update: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[21:51] <meisth0th> I tried switching mirrors but result didn't change
[21:53] <sixunhuit> nurfee: Yes I did the hard shutdown and booted with no problems. But sudo restart result in problems 70% of the time.
[21:54] <OerHeks> meisth0th, that can happen sometimes, bad package during update, fix > http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-packages-list-due-to-a-hash-sum-mismatch-error
[21:54] <meisth0th> OerHeks: i tried that as well, still no luck.
[21:54] <eXistenZe> thanls kostkon
[21:55] <kostkon> eXistenZe, np
[21:55] <eXistenZe> which one do you recomend kostkon?
[21:56] <kostkon> eXistenZe, well, compholio's bleeding edge but the wine ppa always offers the latest version and should be good enough in most use cases
[21:56] <eXistenZe> the staging ppa?
[21:56] <nurfee> sixunhuit: I would be sure that is the correct command, if you have a desktop try using the standard reboot. Know the REISUB command for a soft restart. Any hard shutdown can be an issue, not often but it does happen.
[21:58] <kostkon> eXistenZe, by wine ppa i mean the official ppa from winehq
[21:58] <sixunhuit> nurfee: Sorry, typo, Meant to say I use $sudo reboot and the reboot icon. They both cause the same problem (70% of time).
[21:58] <eXistenZe> can't find it... just the deb packages
[21:59] <eXistenZe> winehq.org has tons of 404s
[21:59] <kostkon> eXistenZe, well the alternative command line instructions on this page https://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[22:00] <kostkon> eXistenZe, tell you hwo to add the ppa
[22:00] <nurfee> sixunhuit: Not sure where to start either, better help here than I here for sure.
[22:00] <eXistenZe> oh... it works now... strang
[22:00] <sixunhuit> nurfee: ty for your time.
[22:00] <nurfee> np
[22:01] <eXistenZe> jesus... 162 dependencies...
[22:01] <eXistenZe> 704mb
[22:02] <kostkon> eXistenZe, :/  i'm guessing some are i386 packages
[22:02] <eXistenZe> yep
[22:04] <NobCat> TJ-, still floating about dude?
[22:12] <NobCat> anyone fancy helping me out with a LVM2 partition?
[22:13] <lixunero> hello nobcat
[22:13] <NobCat> hey lixunero
[22:13] <NobCat> this is what im struggling with
[22:13] <lixunero> welcome a the comunity!
[22:13] <NobCat> http://pastebin.com/B7RVyVQr
[22:17] <lixunero> NobCat: what is your question or problem ?
[22:17] <NobCat> im trying to mount this LVM
[22:18] <NobCat> keep getting "wrong fs type"
[22:18] <elfeck> hey, if I try to clone a git-repo from github I timeout the connection although iptables allow port http https and git. Any suggestions?
[22:18] <NobCat> the fs is "lvm2_member"
[22:18] <nicekiwi_away> how do I access another users directories? I've added my user to the same group as the user that owns the directory, but I still cant access it
[22:19] <lixunero> What version of ubuntu you want to mount the partition ?
[22:20] <NobCat> 14.04
[22:20] <eXistenZe> is there any way to name the partition mounts without using some tool like gparted on a usb drive?
[22:21] <TJ-> nicekiwi: after changing group membership your user needs to log-in again to have those effective
[22:22] <nicekiwi> TJ-, i have tried that.. I think.
[22:22] <Houss56> hello all :)
[22:23] <Bashing-om> eXistenZe: tune2fs ? perhaps will address ?
[22:23] <tomreyn> NobCat: mount /dev/mapper/vg1-lv1 instead
[22:23] <Houss56> i have an easy question :)
[22:25] <TJ-> NobCat: are you using Ubuntu to try to mount the LVM?
[22:30] <eXistenZe> nice Bashing-om it can label mounted partitions
[22:30] <NobCat> TJ- yes i am
[22:30] <eXistenZe> now, can I label a nfs share mounted in fstab?
[22:32] <Bashing-om> eXistenZe: Yepper, linux been around a while, if you can think of it, someone sometime has done it :)
[22:32] <owen1> (ubuntu 15.04) - After hibernation (pm-hibernate or close the lid) my cursur is invisibe and i can't see what i type. any ideas?
[22:32] <TJ-> NobCat: what does "sudo pvs" report as the "VG" name for that device?
[22:33] <NobCat> TJ- vg1
[22:33] <eXistenZe> Bashing-om: what about a cortana assistant with some nice animations around a pole?
[22:33] <Bashing-om> eXistenZe: labrl 'nas' in the mount. nope, that is not the function of the file system table .
[22:33] <elfeck>  hey, if I try to clone a git-repo from github I timeout the connection although iptables allow port dns http https and git. Any suggestions?
[22:33] <TJ-> NobCat: OK, have you done "sudo vgchange -ay vg1"
[22:34] <Bashing-om> eXistenZe: Yeah "you" can do that .. gimp to the resue .
[22:34] <NobCat> TJ- yes
[22:34] <TJ-> NobCat: Does "sudo lvscan" show that device as ACTIVE ?
[22:35] <NobCat> TJ- yes
[22:35] <TJ-> NobCat: by 'that device' I mean /dev/vg1/lv1
[22:35] <NobCat> TJ- yup
[22:35] <lixunero> NobCat , sorry for not being able to help , but do not understand much English and I have to be with the translator. forgiveness
[22:36] <TJ-> NobCat: what does "blkid /dev/pv1/lv1" report?
[22:36] <NobCat> TJ-, pv1/lv1 or vg1/lv1 ?
[22:36] <Houss56> exit
[22:37] <TJ-> NobCat: sorry! "blkid /dev/vg1/lv1"
[22:37] <NobCat> TJ-, nothing
[22:37] <NobCat> back to prompt
[22:37] <TJ-> NobCat: OK, so there's no file-system in there to mount
[22:37] <TJ-> NobCat: redo it with 'sudo ' in case you're restricted with the current user, to be sure, but that's what it looks like
[22:37] <NobCat> running as root
[22:38] <NobCat> TJ-, have a looksee at this
[22:38] <NobCat> http://pastebin.com/B7RVyVQr
[22:38] <TJ-> NobCat: no file-system in there then... did you encrypt it with something?
[22:40] <TJ-> NobCat: OK, so it's a GPT partitioning (you should use 'gdisk /dev/sda" for that, not 'fdisk'), and 'lv1' has no file-system inside it. What were you expecting to find?
[22:40] <NobCat> TJ-, its a drive pulled from a seagate nas that was passed to me to try and pull the data from
[22:41] <NobCat> the unit it toast, but the drive is good
[22:41] <NobCat> i know there is stuff on the 3.6TB partition
[22:42] <TJ-> NobCat: Are you using a 64-bit OS to read it ?
[22:42] <NobCat> no
[22:43] <TJ-> NobCat: you need to look at the data in the LV to see if you can recognise any header
[22:44] <NobCat> ok, how would i do that?
[22:44] <TJ-> Nobcat: "sudo dd if=/dev/vg1/lv1 bs=4096 count=48 | hexdump -C | less " will let you browse the 1st 48 physical 4KB sectors
[22:44] <NobCat> kk
[22:45] <TJ-> NobCat: If you want to pastebin that output I can help you out; I've been doing forensics recovery for amost 30 years
[22:46] <NobCat> TJ-, nice one. gimmie a sec
[22:48] <bodhi_zazen> 30 years ;p
[22:50] <Grubthumped> unplugged other drives except the debian and installed Xubuntu, which loads fine, but if I choose the regular drive where grub loaded from it goes to grub rescue
[22:50] <Grubthumped> what is the best suggestion If I have all 3 oses?
[22:50] <Grubthumped> i burned the grub 2 repair iso to cd
[22:50] <Grubthumped> should I just use that?
[22:51] <Grubthumped> will it fix all mbr's? or grubs
[22:52]  * ki7rw wishes he had never encrypted his hard drive with ecryptfs - nothing but trouble
[22:52] <TJ-> bodhi_zazen: yeah... once upon a time I could rebuild broken FAT file systems by hand, byte-by-byte. Ahhh, those were the days when 40MB was a massive disk :)
[22:53] <TJ-> Grubthumped: that just sounds like you installed the GRUB boot-strap loader to the wrong drive
[22:53] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: Win10 is an EFI install, and GPT is the partitioning . DID you also install xubuntu as EFI ?
[22:55] <cordyceps> FYI: if trying to start firefox fails with error: "/usr/lib/firefox/libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: Timer expired Couldn't load XPCOM" AND you have Sophos installed, try disabling it like this "sudo /opt/sophos-av/bin/savdctl disable"
[22:56] <NobCat> TJ- this is encypted :/
[22:57] <NobCat> bad times
[22:58] <TJ-> NobCat: if so, and blkid didn't report it as a LUKS volume it may be LUKS with a detached header, or it could be plain dm-crypt, or something else entirely. Do you have access to that info?
[22:59] <NobCat> no
[22:59] <Grubthumped> no, just installed windows 10 first
[22:59] <Grubthumped> then installed elementary os later, then I installed debian 8
[22:59] <Grubthumped> the grub2 bootloader was all on the same drive as elementary
[23:00] <Grubthumped> it came up with a menu that I could go to any of the 3 oses
[23:00] <Grubthumped> but I unplugged all the drives but the debian drive hoping that it would not mess with grub and it did...LOL
[23:00] <mojtaba> Do you know how can I backup and zip my home directory using rsync?  mean zip it on the fly and back it up using rsync. I just want to keep one version of the home directory
[23:00] <Grubthumped> and I installed Xubuntu on the debian drive
[23:00] <MACscr> what do you guys typically set your console resolution to? 640x480 is just to low which i think is default
[23:01] <TJ-> NobCat: Try "sudo cryptsetup -v isLuks /dev/vg1/lv1" ... if its LUKs you'll get "Command succesful.", if not, "...  is not a valid LUKS device."
[23:02] <TJ-> Grubthumped: With UEFI there is only one boot loader partition, the EFI System partition, where boot-loaders for all OSes reside. Sounds like you've removed that
[23:03] <Lord-Arhemadan> Howdy! Anyone have experience with an ASUS g75vx? This UEFI stuff is driving me crazy >_<
[23:03] <TJ-> MACscr: which console, the VTs?
[23:04] <Grubthumped> how can i fix it...??
[23:04] <NobCat> k
[23:04] <Grubthumped> I am on an older motherboard, no EUFI
[23:04] <chuks> Hello buddies
[23:05] <Grubthumped> its an 2007 gigabyte Q6600 quad
[23:05] <NobCat> TJ- not a valid LUKS
[23:05] <TJ-> NobCat: not much you can do
[23:05] <Grubthumped> should I try the boot repair disk I made
[23:06] <Grubthumped> its from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:06] <Grubthumped> should I keep all drives connected or unplug this drive?
[23:06] <tomreyn> mojtaba: rsync doesn't compress / archive, it just copies / syncs from one location to another.
[23:07] <mojtaba> tomreyn: Is there anyway to pipe files to zip command before rsync? or sth like that?
[23:07] <tomreyn> mojtaba: you could create a tar archive, compressed or not, or stick with rsync if you don'tmind recreating the same directory structure eleswehre
[23:08] <TJ-> Grubthumped: I can't say I've not been following your issue closely enough. I thought I saw Bashing-om say it was a UEFI/GTP install
[23:08] <Grubthumped> uh, sorry, not its win 10, elementary, and debian, and all worked great
[23:08] <tomreyn> mojtaba: what's your prupose in compressing the files.
[23:08] <tomreyn> ?
[23:09] <mojtaba> tomreyn: I just want to save space
[23:09] <Grubthumped> then I unplugged all drives but the debian drive and installed Xubuntu (erased debian completely) and then tried to boot from the same drive that grub used to work from and it drops me at the grub rescue prompt  :-)
[23:09] <tomreyn> mojtaba: and you're happy to spend time and cpu cycles instead? then compressed tar would be the way to go.
[23:10] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: TJ- Probable I jumped the conclusion when I was aware that Win 10 was in this picture . MBR install on all drives ?
[23:10] <OerHeks> mojtaba, http://askubuntu.com/questions/550735/lossless-compression-using-rsync
[23:10] <Grubthumped> should I try the boot-repair disk?
[23:11] <Grubthumped> will that put a grub2 section back on the elementary drive..?
[23:11] <tomreyn> OerHeks: this (-z) just compresses during transfer, thouzgh, i don't think that's what mojtaba is looking for
[23:14] <MACscr> TJ-: yes
[23:15] <Bashing-om> grubles: Yes, boot-repair will install grub to all/any drive. It is a wonderful tool, but like any others can cause problems when miss applied .
[23:15] <TJ-> MACscr: mine are at 1920x1200 ... btw... did you solve your udevd net if rename issue?
[23:16] <MACscr> TJ-: yep, i thought i told ya what it was
[23:16] <MACscr> i had to specify driver="*?"
[23:16] <MACscr> or somethign like that
[23:17] <TJ-> MACscr: I mised it, was probably away. Yeah, that makes sense, that stops rules touching devices that have already been configured
[23:21] <n-iCe> Hi guys
[23:22] <sergio-br2> what's the problem with fonts-droid package?
[23:22] <sergio-br2> it's missing the thai font
[23:22] <sergio-br2> in vivid
[23:26] <Guest23104> Anyone get this bug while using VLC where it raises the whole system volume?
[23:27] <Grubthumped> Thank you guys so much, the Boot-Repair disc totally re-installed Grub 2 on this main drive and I can now boot into all my OSes
[23:27] <azamrod> which it is the codemane 14.04,14.10 and Ubuntu 15.04 ?
[23:27] <Grubthumped> Thank you, thank you
[23:27] <Grubthumped> :-)
[23:28] <azamrod> hello bollullera
[23:28] <Bashing-om> grubles: :) yannubuntu gets this cookie .
[23:29] <bollullera> hello azamrod
[23:29] <bollullera> hola lixunero
[23:30] <n-iCe> hola
[23:30] <Grubthumped> Learning more and more about Linux everyday and loving it :-)
[23:30] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: ^^ If you have not already done so, boot to what is your primary linux install and ' sudo update-grub ' .
[23:30] <lixunero> bollullera, how do you say spanish?
[23:31] <bollullera> aro, de tó la vida
[23:31] <lixunero> que bien, no tendré que usar el traductor
[23:32] <Grubthumped> thanks so much bashing, totally fixed the grub 2 issue
[23:32] <Grubthumped> :-)
[23:32] <Grubthumped> I can now also see all my drives in Xubuntu, that rocks!
[23:33] <Grubthumped> Xubuntu is really fast...
[23:34] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: Great, just keep in mind what OS you want as the 'primary' only one operating system per hard drive controls the boot process .
[23:34] <Grubthumped> I really like the customizabiltiy
[23:34] <lixunero> y una cosa bollullera, si hablas español, te recomendaria que entrases en " /just #ubuntu-es " (sin las comillas) para entrar en el soporte de ubuntu o en  /just #ubuntu-es-cafe para hablar con la comunidad
[23:34] <lixunero> hola Rodrigo10az
[23:34] <leafy> Dummy Output, please help
[23:34] <Grubthumped> Bashing-om  thanks, that sounds great
[23:35] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: Agreed I do like xfce as the Desktop Environment .
[23:35] <Grubthumped> yes, its way awesome
[23:35] <jmadero> how do I have a bash script prompt for a password during ssh sync when it's being run as a daily cron job
[23:35] <leafy> no sound, please help
[23:35] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: Last system kernel/grub update, that system grabs boot control !
[23:35] <Grubthumped> I have went through 5 distros looking for one that I really wanted to use as a daily driver.... finally landed on Xubuntu
[23:36] <lixunero> bollullera
[23:37] <mtn_> leafy, you should tell folks you already spent several hours on linuxmint-help getting help with your problem
[23:37] <KNF> How to create service in ubuntu and to can control it with (sudo service serviceName start / stop )
[23:37] <KNF> ?
[23:38] <Grubthumped> Bashing-om  thanks so much
[23:39] <Grubthumped> I tried to install the Kaos off the live cd, but the install button did not do anything
[23:39] <Grubthumped> it would not start the install process
[23:39] <leafy> got no sound, please help
[23:39] <Grubthumped> so looking at distrowatch, I found Xubuntu... and wow
[23:40] <nomic> is a solid distribution
[23:40] <illuminated> what is /etc/apt/sources.list.d for?
[23:41] <illuminated> are these for 'added' repositories not included in the base repo list?
[23:41] <lixunero> Ubuntu is good distribution!!
[23:41] <Bashing-om> Grubthumped: Getting away from support .. for discussion /join #ubuntu-offtopic .
[23:41] <lixunero> based in software libre
[23:41] <Grubthumped> oh, thanks Bashing-om, thanks for all your help :-)
[23:42] <Bashing-om> illuminated: Correct, you have the right of it ; 3rd party software generally .
[23:42] <JPRude> Hey gang!  I have a quick question if anyone has the time for me. I'm trying to install ubuntu besides windows 7. I had a previous install that stopped mounting so I deleted the partition and merged it with the windows partition again. Now when I try to install it again, it defaults to trying to install it to the recovery partition. I'm having trou
[23:42] <JPRude> ble using the partition manager to install it to the C drive alongside windows. Does anyone have any experience with this? Thanks so much in advance for any help that comes my way.
[23:43] <illuminated> Bashing-om, ok thanks.  I'm rtfming and it mentions that directory but it was empty for me.  So I was wondering if this was for 3rd party repos not contained within the base list.
[23:43] <Bashing-om> JPRude: MBR partition scheme can only have 4 primary partitions to the hard drive. How many partitions does Windows now utilize ?
[23:43] <mtn_> JPRude, shrink your windows partition using windows, then install linux to the free space
[23:44] <Bashing-om> illuminated: :) Reading is GooD .
[23:44] <JPRude> currently have 3 partitions. The main one, recovery and the 100mb boot partition
[23:45] <JPRude> will try that mtn_ thanks for the tip
[23:49] <grubles> Bashing-om ???? i think you got my nick mixed up
[23:49] <Bashing-om> grubles: Yeah, sorry about that inadverdant highlight . apologies .
[23:54] <jaden> hey