[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[06:49] <Tm_T> how is dholbach on this fine monday morning?
[06:50] <dholbach> he's doing well - already did a bit of yoga in the morning - how about you? how's life over there?
[06:57] <Tm_T> excellent except the sun, it doesn't remember to stay below horizon much nowadays
[06:59] <dholbach> :)
[07:02]  * Tm_T thinks the old fella has alzheimer
[07:06] <davidcalle> Morning all o/
[07:07] <dholbach> salut davidcalle
[07:08] <dholbach> hola dpm, hola ara
[07:10] <dpm> morning dholbach
[07:10] <ara> hey dholbach!
[07:10] <ara> hola dpm :)
[07:11] <dpm> hey ara :)
[07:11] <dholbach> how are you two doing? :)
[07:20] <davidcalle> dholbach, great! This week-end was Tristan's first birthday, we had a lot of fun :-)
[07:20] <davidcalle> dholbach, what about you?
[07:33] <dholbach> davidcalle, very nice :-)
[07:34] <dholbach> davidcalle, I went to a birthday party of friends on Friday which was very nice, did a bit of a shopping trip across Berlin on Saturday and drove out into the countryside yesterday - it was more of a relaxed weekend this time :)
[07:35] <davidcalle> dholbach, sounds nice, indeed :)
[07:53]  * dholbach relocates, brb
[07:53] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:05] <popey> Wheeee!
[08:11] <czajkowski> it's hot out there!
[08:12] <Tm_T> czajkowski: where?
[08:13] <Tm_T> ah, UK
[08:15] <czajkowski> yup
[08:16] <czajkowski> https://twitter.com/Czajkowski/status/615425215632416768/photo/1
[08:23] <nigelb> lol
[08:23] <nigelb> We have "Feels like 40C"
[08:24] <dholbach> mhall119, can you comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/store-data/+merge/262684 please?
[12:10] <balloons> welcome to monday everyone :-)
[12:32] <dholbach> hey balloons, hey daker
[12:35] <balloons> hey dholbach. So I was filing some doc bugs on friday after everyone left on snappy.
[12:35] <dholbach> cool
[12:35]  * balloons is trying to remember where he ended up
[12:36] <dholbach> https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 right?
[12:37] <balloons> hehe, I meant with snappy, but sure. davidcalle already fixed one of the bugs I filed. rock star that he is
[12:39]  * davidcalle hopes that nobody notices he only fixes easy ones!
[12:41] <dholbach> ah cool
[12:41]  * dholbach hugs davidcalle
[12:43] <davidcalle> balloons, on https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/1469298, you seem to be using the edge channel as opposed to the stable one used for the tour, are you sure webdm is not by default in stable?
[12:43] <davidcalle> dholbach :)
[12:45] <balloons> davidcalle, I don't know. Simply that I was confused by the verbiage used in the tutorial. It also didn't match what I was seeing, but I was running edge
[12:45] <balloons> It *seems* like the tutorial was written from a custom image perspective
[12:49] <davidcalle> balloons, oh right, I see what you mean by confused. I'm tempted to completely remove webdm from every terminal output in there.
[12:50] <balloons> davidcalle, right. It's not used, and at times the author writing the tutorial doesn't even mention it's existence, or pretends it's not there
[12:51] <balloons> so the output indeed doesn't match the narrative
[12:51] <davidcalle> balloons, snippets have probably been updated just to match the new snappy version, without noticing there was webdm on the image
[12:51] <davidcalle> balloons, ok, let's kill that :)
[12:55] <davidcalle> The tutorial should work for all snappy images, there is already the beaglbone details, which make sense from a "how is hardware dealt with?" pov, let's not add something more that could cause confusion.
[13:20] <balloons> davidcalle, thanks for the updates. Much better!
[13:37] <mhall119> dholbach: I have a concern about your MP
[13:37] <mhall119> line 65 of the diff
[13:37] <dholbach> sure, let me take a look
[13:38] <dholbach> mhall119, ok - what is it?
[13:38] <dholbach> ah... I can see a problem already
[13:38] <mhall119> dholbach: the way get_or_create works, if it doesn't find a record matching *all* of the fields,it will create a new one
[13:38] <dholbach> it would always create new objects
[13:38] <dholbach> yes, agreed
[13:39] <dholbach> if I drop the last_udpate requirement that'll make it more likely
[13:39] <dholbach> to match
[13:39] <mhall119> dholbach: you should only use fields whos value won't change
[13:40] <dholbach> right
[13:40] <mhall119> anything that can change (last_updated, price, rating average, etc) should go into the defaults={} parameter
[13:41] <mhall119> or, more correctly, only call get_or_create on non-changing fields, then update the others afterwards and save it again
[13:41] <dholbach> right
[13:41] <dholbach> I'll need to change the model then
[13:41] <dholbach> and allow a few fields to be empty
[13:41] <dholbach> but yeah
[13:41] <dholbach> good point
[13:42] <dholbach> I'll get back to you once I'm done with it
[13:42] <mhall119> dholbach: thanks :)
[13:51] <dholbach> mhall119, better now? :)
[13:52] <mhall119> dholbach: defaults are only used if it's being created, it won't update those fields if the record already exists
[13:53] <dholbach> aha
[13:53] <dholbach> then I misunderstood how it works
[13:53] <dholbach> that's easy to fix though
[13:53] <dholbach> and there's a spurious print
[13:54] <mhall119> I was going to mention that too :)
[13:55] <mhall119> dpm: to you remember what we were waiting on for https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/developer-ubuntu-com/generic-steps-style/+merge/253029
[13:57] <dholbach> mhall119, fixed :)
[13:59] <dholbach> mhall119, I top-approved lp:~mhall119/developer-ubuntu-com/add-autopilot-scopes-docs - not sure if I was expected to merge and land it?
[13:59] <mhall119> dholbach: I'll do that when I prepare the RT
[14:00] <dholbach> ok
[14:01] <popey> dpm: http://imgur.com/6uudmQj
[14:03] <dholbach> I think dpm burnt a whole through his laptop
[14:04] <dholbach> dpm, burnt a whole through your laptop?
[14:05] <popey> heh
[14:05] <dpm> dholbach, crap
[14:05] <popey> ✔ - Sitting in the sun
[14:05] <popey> ✔ - Using google hangouts
[14:05] <dpm> dholbach, yeah, summer is over, back to my room
[14:05] <dpm> BOOM!
[14:05] <popey> ✗ - Legs burned
[14:05] <dholbach> bah
[14:05] <dholbach> brief summer
[14:06] <czajkowski> dholbach: HEATWAVE!!
[14:06] <dpm> dholbach, just a sec, bringing over everything to my desktop PC, will be just a min
[14:06] <dholbach> I'm not complaining
[14:06] <czajkowski> working in the garden wit hens on hangouts
[14:06] <czajkowski> poor folks in the US don't know what's happening :)
[14:30] <dpm> mhall119, will be 2 minutes
[14:32] <dpm> ok, all set
[14:32] <dholbach> mhall119, davidcalle: I'll schedule another quick call with us and dpm so we can take some time to note down a bit more specific work items for the snappy internal doc import? I realised that I didn't manage to write down proper work items last time - and maybe we can figure out the open questions as well
[14:34] <davidcalle> dholbach, good idea!
[14:54] <dholbach> mhall119, can https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/store-data/+merge/262684 now be approved and merged? I'd like to propose another branch soon basing on this :)
[15:01] <mhall119> dholbach: it doesn't do anything currently, is there a benefit in merging it before it's fully functional?
[15:18] <dholbach> pushed the cronjob thing too
[15:32] <jose> balloons: hey, you pinged me a couple days ago?
[15:33] <balloons> jose, hey yes I did. dholbach and I would like to schedule an on-air hangout at 1400 UTC on July 7th
[15:34] <balloons> is the timeslot open? It would be for the snappy open house
[15:34] <jose> let me check
[15:34] <jose> slot open :)
[15:39] <dholbach> \o/
[15:39] <jose> balloons: can you please check that the show is scheduled with the right info?
[15:40] <balloons> jose, yo lo veo, es bueno. gracias!
[15:41] <jose> np!
[15:41] <jose> looks like someone's been working on his spanish :P
[15:41] <balloons> :p
[15:52] <dholbach> mhall119, I'll push the actual cms plugin parts to https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/developer-ubuntu-com/store-data/+merge/262684 too - I just marked it as WIP
[15:53] <mhall119> dholbach: works for me,thanks
[15:55] <dholbach> all right
[15:56] <dholbach> I call it a day
[15:56] <dholbach> have a good one everyone! see you tomorrow!
[17:33] <jcastro> hey popey
[17:33] <popey> never
[17:34] <jcastro> https://theappendix.net/blog/2013/2/getting-drunk-in-colonial-america
[17:34] <jcastro> Thinking of you
[17:34] <popey> oh, not mx4 question. okay
[17:34] <jcastro> heh
[17:34] <jcastro> so ... mx4?