[10:56] <mzanetti> ltinkl, hey ho
[10:56] <mzanetti> ltinkl, what's the status on the QScreenSaver thing?
[11:00] <ltinkl> mzanetti, hi
[11:00] <ltinkl> mzanetti, I added a comment to the BR with a suggestion how this might be fixed (in mir); so far no reply :/
[11:01] <ltinkl> mzanetti, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1462489/comments/20
[11:03] <mzanetti> ltinkl, I think we rather adjust the QPA to use mir specifics, instead of cluttering Mir with X11 cruft
[11:03] <mzanetti> hmm... ok, this isn't in the QPA, but rather directly in the QtSystemInfo code
[11:03] <ltinkl> mzanetti, hmm, I didn't mean this, I think we should patch (provide an implementation) directly in qscreensaver
[11:03] <ltinkl> mzanetti, ye
[11:04] <mzanetti> yep
[11:04] <ltinkl> mzanetti, so far it has one only for X11
[11:04] <mzanetti> ltinkl, ok. thanks a lot for digging this out. I'll take it to Pat to figure who will do this
[11:05] <ltinkl> mzanetti, no prob; I think this is best suited for someone from the mir team
[11:05] <ltinkl> mzanetti, shouldn't be that hard for them imo
[12:38] <dandrader> greyback, fyi: will start reviewing https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/qtmir/polite-close/+merge/262188 now.
[12:38] <greyback> dandrader: thanks. Was about to ask you actually
[12:39] <dandrader> didn't know it was up for review for so long already. thought it was WIP
[13:35] <cimi> pstolowski, hey pawel
[13:36] <cimi> pstolowski, I am working on the social comments, do you have any preferences for the widgetData properties for them?
[13:36] <cimi> widgetData["source"], "author", "date", "comment" ?
[13:52] <pstolowski> cimi, hey,
[13:53] <pstolowski> cimi, do you have the notes about that from tsdgeos?
[13:55] <pstolowski> cimi, ah, nvm, i confused this with some other functionality I discussed before with tsdgeos
[13:57] <pstolowski> cimi, so - no, i haven't really thought about social comments, so no preferences. just propose something
[14:02] <greyback>  libconnectivity-qt1-dev:armhf : Depends: libconnectivity-qt1:armhf (= 0.5.1+15.04.20150618.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[14:02] <greyback> grrrr
[14:39] <seb128> hey there
[14:39] <seb128> did the desktop lock screen changed on purpose between vivid and wily?
[14:39] <seb128> it's using the phone now
[14:39] <seb128> before it had one with a text input rather than the artwork and edge slide
[14:41] <greyback> seb128: not intentionally. Sounds like a bug
[14:41] <seb128> hey greyback, wb!
[14:41] <greyback> seb128: hey! Thanks :)
[14:41] <seb128> I was looking for you previous week ;-)
[14:42] <greyback> you would have found me outside in the sun. Why didn't you look there? ;)
[14:42] <seb128> haha
[14:42] <seb128> good place to hide for a geek ;-)
[14:43] <seb128> anyway, I was/am hitting issue to get unity8 session to work on the snappy personal and I though it might be an issue on the components only you know
[14:44] <seb128> unity8.log was failing to start with ""ERROR: QMirServer - Mir failed to start"" in the log bug no details
[14:44] <seb128> but turns out it's probably not your fault
[14:45] <seb128> after some days of trying to figure out what's going and nagging Mir/unity8 channels I got enough help to figure out that unity8 does work
[14:45] <seb128> it's only that lightdm starts u-s-c on vt8 but fail to switch to there, and vt7 go back to the greeter
[14:45] <seb128> so it looks like session start failed
[14:45] <seb128> if you manually go to vt8 unity8 does start
[14:46] <seb128> now I'm nagging robert_ancell trying to understand why the vt switch is not working
[14:55] <greyback> seb128: hmm, quite an adventure.
[14:55] <greyback> sounds like something to robustify. I'm surprised unity8 didn't print an error explaining why mir failed to start
[14:55] <seb128> greyback, yeah, not easy to debug/have info about QMirServer not starting
[14:56] <seb128> I'm not even sure why Mir fails to start still
[14:56] <seb128> usc is on "pause"
[14:56] <seb128> shouldn't the rendering on vt8 work even if that's not the active vt?
[14:59] <greyback> seb128: I've no idea. I would expect it to, but that's Mir's domain
[14:59] <seb128> k
[15:05] <attente> hi. is anyone looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1417655?
[15:07] <greyback> attente: yep, it's slowly appearing. It involves adding non-trivial window management code, so is taking time
[15:08] <attente> greyback: cool, thanks
[15:23] <seb128> hum, the desktop greeter regressed in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/8.10+15.10.20150616.1-0ubuntu1
[15:24] <seb128> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/209311403/unity8_8.10%2B15.10.20150612-0ubuntu2_8.10%2B15.10.20150616.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[15:26] <seb128> could be https://code.launchpad.net/~josharenson/unity8/greeter_mode/+merge/256385
[15:30] <greyback> seb128: strange thing is, I'm using today's desktop on my laptop, and greeter looks fine.
[15:30] <seb128> "fine"?
[15:30] <seb128> does it have a password entry?
[15:30] <greyback> seb128: i.e. the way it always has, password entry box to left of infographic
[15:30] <seb128> or the artwork in the middle and need to slide to display the "enter password"?
[15:30] <seb128> hum
[15:31] <seb128> weird, I get the phone Ui on my wily and on the snappy personal daily image
[15:31] <greyback> seb128: is GRID_UNIT_PX set to a high value?
[15:31] <seb128> dpkg -l | grep unity8?
[15:31] <greyback> seb128: I'm on vivid+overlay
[15:32] <seb128> ah
[15:32] <seb128> that doesn't have the landing I mentioned
[15:32] <greyback> 8.10+15.04.20150618-0ubuntu1
[15:33] <greyback> ok
[15:33] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+sourcepub/5157494/+listing-archive-extra
[15:33] <seb128> yeah, that doesn't have "  * Implement bare-bones shellMode=greeter and shellMode=shell"
[15:33] <seb128> e.g https://code.launchpad.net/~josharenson/unity8/greeter_mode/+merge/256385
[15:33] <greyback> yeah.
[15:34] <seb128> reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1469761
[15:34] <greyback> looks likely that's the problem
[15:34] <greyback> seb128: thanks
[15:34] <seb128> yw!
[15:34] <greyback> seb128: i'm guessing apps work for you on unity8 on desktop then
[15:34] <seb128> starting them?
[15:35] <seb128> yes
[15:35] <greyback> seb128: heh, ok I've screwed something up somewhere
[15:35] <seb128> if not, make sure cgmanager is started
[15:35] <seb128> it doesn't do for some vivid unstable upgraders
[15:35] <seb128> systemctl start cgmanager
[15:35] <greyback> seb128: would this be useful fix, it helps unity8-dash and maliit start on my machine: https://code.launchpad.net/~gerboland/unity8/set-qpa-env-for-clients/+merge/263253
[15:36] <seb128> greyback, thanks ... and weird, dash starts fine for me
[15:36] <greyback> seb128: bingo, that fixes apps for me
[15:36] <seb128> great
[15:37] <seb128> you need to locally fix your systemd job, upgrades from that buggy unstable version are not automatically handled
[15:37] <greyback> seb128: hmm, I am interested in what sets QT_QPA_PLATFORM for dash & maliit then
[15:37] <greyback> yay, i get to learn systemd now
[15:38] <seb128> QT_QPA_PLATFORM = ubuntumirclient
[15:39] <greyback> seb128: yeah, but *what* sets that for apps
[15:39] <seb128> ah
[15:39] <seb128> no idea...
[15:39] <greyback> nor I. Anyway, stuff works for me now, thank you
[15:39] <seb128> oh
[15:40] <seb128> /usr/bin/lightdm-unity8-session does
[18:46] <dandrader> mzanetti, ping
[18:46] <mzanetti> dandrader, pong
[18:48] <dandrader> mzanetti, just did "sudo apt-get build-dep unity8" in vivid+overlay_ppa and it didn't pull libandroid-properties-dev. Any idea what might be missing or outdated?
[18:48] <dandrader> mzanetti, that was in a chroot in my mako, right after a "apt-get update"
[18:49] <mzanetti> should be there. that dep came with shellRotation, which is in the ppa
[18:50] <mzanetti> dandrader, apt-cache policy unity8
[18:50] <dandrader> mzanetti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11794738/
[18:51] <dandrader> looks correct...
[18:51] <mzanetti> dandrader, odd, you have 20150618. That is current trunk
[18:52] <dandrader> mzanetti, and same happens on the phone but outside the chroot
[18:52] <mzanetti> yeah, just saw it
[18:52] <dandrader> I've no idea where "apt-get build-dep" gets his info from though
[18:53] <mzanetti> from the source package afaik
[18:53] <mzanetti> which should have the debian/control
[18:53] <mzanetti> and it is in there
[19:02] <tedg> So I just installed the U8 desktop session. But it doesn't seem to be taking mouse input.
[19:02] <tedg> Is there a way to make it do that?
[19:12] <robin-hero> ey all! I set Terminal to maximum size on Unity8 (Desktop Next), and now I can't resize it to the original size, because there are no control buttons on the title. How can I fix it?
[19:19] <mzanetti> dandrader, hey, ltinkl just left some comments here. https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity8/fixOrientedShellTests/+merge/262490
[19:19] <mzanetti> dandrader, in case you wanna fix, the silo still needs building and I can't build atm
[19:19] <mzanetti> so feel free to still change the branch
[19:23] <dandrader> mzanetti, replied
[19:24] <mzanetti> dandrader, hmm, this is news to me... interesting
[19:24] <mzanetti> have some readings related to this?
[19:24] <dandrader> mzanetti, nothing readily available. let me google it
[19:26] <dandrader> mzanetti, this is one http://www.cprogramming.com/c++11/rvalue-references-and-move-semantics-in-c++11.html
[19:26] <dandrader> mzanetti, let me find a Qt announcement on the support
[19:29] <dandrader> mzanetti, yeah, just checked the code. QString has a move constructor: QString(QString && other)
[19:30] <dandrader> mzanetti, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11795003/
[19:35] <tedg> Hmm, so I still can't get through the lock screen with -mousetouch
[19:41] <dandrader> tedg, maybe unity8 is not getting any input at all
[19:54] <tedg> dandrader, No, I can make the launcher move, just not the lock screen.
[19:54] <dandrader> tedg, if you just click on the indicators bar. does it open?
[19:55] <dandrader> tedg, without -mousetouch, that is.
[19:55] <tedg> dandrader, No
[19:55] <tedg> dandrader, I doesn't either way
[19:55] <tedg> I think I remember bregma mentioning something like this.
[19:56] <dandrader> tedg, bad sign. the indicator bar is supposed to show  the indicators panel when it gets a mouse click
[19:56] <tedg> I just don't remember if there's a solution.
[19:56] <dandrader> tedg, also the launcher should show itself when the mouse pointer reaches the left edge of the screen. No "pushing against the edge" needed, like in unity7
[19:57] <dandrader> tedg, that, again, without -mousetouch
[19:57] <tedg> dandrader, Yeah, so the launcher appears and I can move the icons on it.
[19:59] <dandrader> tedg, and are you getting the "tablet" or the phone lockscreen?
[19:59] <tedg> dandrader, I don't know the difference.
[20:00] <tedg> There's no user selector
[20:00] <tedg> And it's in the user session.
[20:01] <dandrader> tedg, the tablet (or the wide, multi-user) one is the one that shows the user name on the left (or a scrollable list of users) with the round infographics on the right side
[20:01] <dandrader> tedg, you dismiss it by tapping on the user name (if it doesn't have a password)
[20:01] <tedg> Yeah, so I think it's phone.
[20:01] <tedg> I've got a centered infographic
[20:02] <tedg> Can I disable the lock screen? How does this work for cases of lightdm doing the session managment?
[20:02] <dandrader> tedg, so that's another problem. desktop should be getting the tablet/wide/multi-user greeter
[20:02] <dandrader> tedg, until we get a design for the desktop case (if it turns out to be different from tablet)
[20:03] <dandrader> tedg, josh should know, but he's not on IRC atm.
[20:03] <dandrader> tedg, or mterry
[20:04] <dandrader> tedg, lightdm will run "unity8 ---greeteronly" or something like that
[20:05] <dandrader> tedg, ie, it will run an instance of unity8 having only the Greeter+Lockscreen
[20:05] <dandrader> tedg, until it's split into a separate binary again
[20:05] <dandrader> tedg, not sure what's the current status of this though
[20:15] <tedg> dandrader, it seems to be -mode shell
[20:15] <dandrader> tedg, yeah, I thinkg that's the command line argument for that
[20:17] <dandrader> tedg, it shouldn't load the Greeter
[20:17] <dandrader> tedg, did it work for you?
[20:18] <tedg> dandrader, Yeah, now I need to get a terminal :-)