| ovidiu-florin | hello friends | 07:20 |
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| ovidiu-florin | good morning | 07:20 |
| soee | hiho | 07:24 |
| Tm_T | moin | 07:26 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:15 |
| clivejo | Riddell: when building in pbuilder, is the environment destroyed after? | 09:33 |
| Riddell | clivejo: yes | 09:33 |
| Riddell | it's why I only use pbuilder for a final check | 09:33 |
| Riddell | and normally build either on my local system if I think it's close enough to where I want to put the package or in a manual chroot | 09:33 |
| clivejo | there was a few missing files in the pbuild I run last night | 09:34 |
| clivejo | took a few hours :/ | 09:34 |
| clivejo | so quilt is used more for host OS changes to CMAKE files | 09:35 |
| clivejo | ie for debian | 09:36 |
| Riddell | any patch we want to apply, maybe we want to put unicorns in the default kword template | 09:38 |
| Riddell | but in kubuntu at least we have a policy against unicorns (sorry sitter) because they should be applied upstream in KDE | 09:38 |
| sitter | :O | 09:38 |
| Riddell | otherwise it becomes impossible to maintain and the quality drops, as you discovered by just trying to update a few patches here | 09:38 |
| Riddell | so patches are only added when something is really needed in kubuntu and not needed upstream in KDE which is rare, or maybe a fix from upstream KDE we take that isn't in the released tar | 09:39 |
| Riddell | debian have their own rules of course, and we take from debian so lots of our patches (managed by quilt) are from them | 09:39 |
| clivejo | can you give an example of a Kubuntu patch applied by us? | 09:39 |
| Riddell | debian/patches/kubuntu_qtquick-plugin-directory.diff for example | 09:40 |
| Riddell | in calligra | 09:40 |
| Riddell | which we need because we use funky multiarch paths to allow i386 and amd64 stuff to be co-installable | 09:40 |
| sitter | judging from the name it is a patch that shouldn't be there :P | 09:41 |
| Riddell | so ${CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR} isn't what upstream expects it to be | 09:41 |
| sitter | description confirms | 09:41 |
| Riddell | so we change it | 09:41 |
| Riddell | but as sitter says, maybe there's a better way I didn't think of at the time where it could be fixed upstream for everyone | 09:41 |
| Riddell | to be fair I did ask boud from calligra when I wrote that and he said it was the right thing to do | 09:41 |
| sitter | http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=phonon.git&a=blob&h=3ec9d2f5b5e8768ea160fb33d7128e863b8edfff&hb=f9a268d386f0dcaece6232bf5c9e4b87ebc37cef&f=CMakeLists.txt#l127 | 09:42 |
| === tazz_ is now known as tazz | ||
| sitter | Riddell: patch becomes obsolete with kf5 port since ECM implements what phonon had 5 years ago in a more generic manner :P | 09:44 |
| Riddell | :) | 09:44 |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| clivejo | why is there a policy against unicorns? | 10:09 |
| Riddell | clivejo: unicorns are fine if upstream adds them, but unicorns added only in kubuntu could become unsustainable, we don't have the stables or vet skills needed | 10:18 |
| Riddell | and where would we supply all the fairy dust needed from? | 10:19 |
| Riddell | and if they died because we didn't have enough fairy dust think of the bad publicity | 10:19 |
| clivejo | discrimation! | 10:20 |
| clivejo | discrimination :P | 10:21 |
| sitter | well, we don't accept ponies either | 10:21 |
| Riddell | sgclark: I'm moving about the qa.kubuntu build status pages, which one are you using? | 10:22 |
| clivejo | thei debuild is so long!! | 10:23 |
| clivejo | really is a winter activity | 10:23 |
| sitter | search for ccache and icecream/icecc and eatmydata and check debuild's -nc option | 10:25 |
| sitter | also | 10:25 |
| sitter | Riddell: didn't I have a hook for pbuilder to drop to terminal? | 10:25 |
| sitter | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto#Using_the_Kubuntu_pbuilder_hooks look, I am famous | 10:25 |
| sitter | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks/view/head:/C10shell | 10:25 |
| sitter | there, most useful hook ever | 10:26 |
| sitter | someone really needs to rewrite pbuilder on top of lxc | 10:26 |
| Riddell | lxc? isn't it all docker these days? | 10:26 |
| sitter | same tech, different frontends | 10:27 |
| sitter | OTOH docker has a proper ruby api gem, so there's that xD | 10:28 |
| === sebas_ is now known as sebas | ||
| * seaLne pokes people coming to akademy to register https://akademy.kde.org/2015/register | 11:05 | |
| sebas | seaLne: is BoF registration already open? | 11:45 |
| seaLne | it will be the same as previous years, not sure if anyone has created the wiki pages yet. biab | 11:49 |
| sgclark | Riddell: I am not using any status pages yet. No where close to that point yet. | 12:23 |
| Riddell | :( | 12:24 |
| sgclark | makes me really come to appreciate our scripts haha | 12:24 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:57 |
| === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward | ||
| soee | oh shutdown fixed in Plasma 5.3.2 :D | 13:51 |
| * soee happy | 13:51 | |
| clivejo | Riddell: still getting this error - dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library liblibglobal.so.14 needed by debian/krita/usr/lib/kde4/kritalutdocker.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '') | 14:55 |
| Riddell | clivejo: ignore that one, it's installed specially in debian/rules | 14:56 |
| Riddell | because it doesn't exist in arm | 14:56 |
| Riddell | ah, can't ignore it, it's an shlibs error | 14:59 |
| Riddell | pastebin debian/krita/usr/lib/kde4/kritalutdocker.so ? | 15:00 |
| === Guest69756 is now known as thelionroars | ||
| Riddell | clivejo: looks like libglobal is indeed a new library, just add it to krita.install | 15:05 |
| Riddell | it's probably in debian/tmp/usr/lib/liblibglobal.so.1234 | 15:05 |
| clivejo | there are 3 | 15:08 |
| clivejo | ./usr/lib/liblibglobal.so.14.0.0, liblibglobal.so, liblibglobal.so.14 | 15:08 |
| clivejo | so just use the so.14 one? | 15:09 |
| clivejo | I added it to krita.install, but stil getting the error - dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library liblibglobal.so.14 needed by debian/krita/usr/lib/kde4/kritatooltransform.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '') | 15:14 |
| clivejo | this is where I got stuck last time | 15:14 |
| clivejo | ah | 15:16 |
| clivejo | not-installed must override *.install | 15:17 |
| clivejo | still complaining about it! | 15:22 |
| clivejo | Riddell: any ideas? | 15:28 |
| clivejo | maybe Im putting them in wrong package, should I try calligra-libs instead of krita? | 15:36 |
| clivejo | the readme me doesnt mention anything about liblibglobal :/ | 15:40 |
| seaLne | sebas: we will be announcing the BoFs shortly | 16:13 |
| ahoneybun | please please get 5.3.2 out fast as it has a fix for shutting down! | 16:57 |
| ahoneybun | oohhhh: http://www.phoronix.com/image-viewer.php?id=kde-vdg-design&image=kde_vdg_muon_lrg | 17:23 |
| lordievader | That looks quite slick, actually :) | 18:17 |
| Lumby_ | Is it normal for kscreen to not be included in kde-plasma-desktop? | 18:50 |
| === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away | ||
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: the Ubuntu phone Telegram client uses libqtelegram (https://launchpad.net/libqtelegram) which as far as I know isn't a Telepathy plugin | 19:20 |
| ahoneybun | there was/is work from a GSOC | 19:20 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: ^ | 19:20 |
| ahoneybun | https://akulichalexandr.wordpress.com/2014/05/26/telegram-connection-manager-gsoc-2014-task-overview/ | 19:21 |
| ahoneybun | https://akulichalexandr.wordpress.com/2015/03/24/telegram-connection-manager-the-first-release-is-going-on/ | 19:22 |
| mhall119 | thanks ahoneybun, I'll pass that on to the ubuntu client devs, I think they wanted to make it use Telepathy eventually | 19:22 |
| ahoneybun | cool | 19:23 |
| mhall119 | ahoneybun: you can join #ubuntu-telegram too if you're interested in that client | 19:29 |
| ahoneybun | mhall119: I've been using Cutegram as it is Qt based and nice | 19:32 |
| clivejo | does anyone know where the file liblibglobal.so.14 shoud go in calligra? | 19:48 |
| clivejo | I cant get past this error - dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library liblibglobal.so.14 needed by debian/krita/usr/lib/kde4/kritatooltransform.so (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '') | 19:49 |
| clivejo | Ive tried putting it in krita and calligra-libs | 19:50 |
| Mamarok | clivejo: at some point, they used to have good build isntructions in the wiki, did you check there? | 19:51 |
| Mamarok | but such a library should be in /usr/lib/, noramlly, since it is a global one | 19:55 |
| Mamarok | normally* | 19:55 |
| clivejo | there are 3 with simular names tmp/usr/lib/liblibglobal.so.14.0.0, liblibglobal.so, liblibglobal.so.14 | 19:56 |
| Mamarok | why tmp/usr/lib/? | 19:57 |
| clivejo | but the error message seems to suggesst it needs the liblibglobal.so.14 file, so I added it to the krita.install | 19:57 |
| clivejo | thats where the build puts them? | 19:58 |
| clivejo | debian/tmp? | 19:58 |
| Mamarok | I would assume those all belong to /usr/lib/, and isn't that all the same file? | 19:58 |
| clivejo | no, there are 3 separate files | 19:58 |
| Mamarok | weird | 19:58 |
| Mamarok | how about asking in #calligra? | 19:59 |
| clivejo | I have just done that | 19:59 |
| clivejo | how do I verify that the file is actually being installed into krita.deb? | 20:00 |
| clivejo | is adding it to krita.install enough, or is there somewhere else? | 20:00 |
| clivejo | in rpm pacakges it seems to be installed into calligra-krita-libs-2.9.5-1.fc23 | 20:02 |
| clivejo | but debian dont seem to have that package | 20:02 |
| clivejo | also that file doesnt seem to be mentioned in the README.PACKAGER file either :/ | 20:04 |
| clivejo | Mamarok: if I change a *.install file to include a new file in the package, do I have to do a clean debuild? | 20:30 |
| Riddell | clivejo: no run Dh_install | 20:31 |
| clivejo | does debuild -nc not do that? | 20:31 |
| ahoneybun | damn ovidiu-florin | 20:34 |
| clivejo | regarding the User map, could I suggest you use OSM? | 20:35 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: if someone will do it, they are free to do so | 20:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | currently it's abandoned | 20:37 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: seems we can edit files on github | 20:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | ahoneybun: yes we can | 20:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | but please don't | 20:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | let's just edit on the test site | 20:40 |
| ovidiu-florin | so we can confirm our edits | 20:40 |
| ahoneybun | d.k.org? | 20:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | what? | 20:41 |
| ahoneybun | docs.kubuntu.org | 20:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | I wasn't talking about that | 20:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | so, here it goes: | 20:41 |
| ahoneybun | k | 20:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | Current site: http://www.kubuntu.org/ Test site (only for development of the site): http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/ New site (ready to go in production?): https://www-new.kubuntu.org/ | 20:42 |
| ahoneybun | once we/you get a theme up for the d.k.org domain, I'll move over everything there | 20:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | let's launch the site first, and then work on that. ahoneybun do you agree? | 20:46 |
| ahoneybun | of course | 20:46 |
| ahoneybun | let's get your baby out the door first | 20:46 |
| clivejo | ok liblibglobal.so.14 is a sym link to liblibglobal.so.14.0.0 | 20:50 |
| clivejo | what on earth is that in aid of? | 20:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm off to bed | 20:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | good night | 20:55 |
| sick_rimmit | I would very much like to be part of the Team, if that would be possible | 20:56 |
| sick_rimmit | ovidiu-florin: nite nite see you tomorrow | 20:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | sick_rimmit: the website team? | 20:58 |
| sick_rimmit | No, sorry I saw your emails on that, thank you | 20:59 |
| sick_rimmit | No I meant on the Kubuntu Team page | 20:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | aaaa, I have nothing against it | 20:59 |
| ovidiu-florin | HUMANS: you on board with this ^ | 21:00 |
| * ovidiu-florin ZZZZZzzzz..... | 21:00 | |
| * clivejo nods | 21:01 | |
| * clivejo needs a cold shower | 21:03 | |
| valorie | everybody who helps out here should be on the team page | 21:54 |
| clivejo | has Nxt Stage 2 been disabled? | 23:16 |
| clivejo | humm seems so | 23:18 |
| sgclark | valorie: It is not suppose to be this HOT up here!!! | 23:30 |
| valorie | indeed | 23:30 |
| valorie | although I was able to work outside for 15-20 mins | 23:30 |
| valorie | but sheesh | 23:30 |
| valorie | and it is predicted to go on...... | 23:31 |
| sgclark | yeah been out in it, yucky :( | 23:31 |
| valorie | poor people, poor plants, poor forests! | 23:31 |
| sgclark | yeah, no relief in sight is the weather report, ugh | 23:31 |
| sgclark | I know, my poor flowers are crying | 23:31 |
| valorie | I get to go up to the cabin this weekend where it's nice and cool | 23:31 |
| valorie | at least in the cabin | 23:31 |
| sgclark | oh nice! | 23:32 |
| clivejo | how do I make a comment on Trello? | 23:32 |
| valorie | yes, watering the flowers and other plants that need it take like an hour | 23:32 |
| valorie | clivejo: do you have an account? | 23:32 |
| clivejo | just signed up | 23:32 |
| valorie | ok | 23:32 |
| sgclark | clivejo: Riddell will have to invite you to board | 23:33 |
| clivejo | Im interested in this card - https://trello.com/c/1KfVhhjf/2-kubuntu-users-map | 23:33 |
| kubotu | [Kubuntu Promotion :: Ideas :: Kubuntu Users Map ++ SI] | 23:33 |
| valorie | I might have admin powerz, checking | 23:33 |
| clivejo | and to use OpenStreetMap instead of GoogleMaps | 23:33 |
| valorie | clivejo: did you join the kubuntu group? | 23:34 |
| valorie | I don't see you on the list of members | 23:34 |
| valorie | sgclark: do you have good a/c in your place? | 23:35 |
| valorie | mine is a life-saver | 23:35 |
| valorie | my next-door neighbor opted not to get a heat pump, and they are so regretting it this summer | 23:35 |
| clivejo | silly question, but how do a join a board!?! | 23:36 |
| valorie | oh, it's called subscribe | 23:36 |
| valorie | there is a menu button up on the right top | 23:36 |
| clivejo | I must be blind | 23:38 |
| clivejo | cant see subscribe or join board anywhere | 23:38 |
| clivejo | Ive starred the board | 23:38 |
| valorie | can you give me a screenie of what you are seeing? | 23:39 |
| sgclark | valorie: yes, funny enough we decided to get a full A/C unit this year, best decision we ever made lol | 23:40 |
| valorie | sure, but that just puts it in your most view stuff, clivejo | 23:41 |
| valorie | sgclark: oh, good | 23:41 |
| clivejo | http://s8.postimg.org/91bmj0qph/trello.jpg | 23:41 |
| valorie | not as good as cooler weather, but at least you live though a heat wave | 23:41 |
| === alket_ is now known as alket | ||
| valorie | clivejo: see the menu button on the top-right? | 23:42 |
| valorie | click that and a menu will come down | 23:42 |
| clivejo | yup | 23:42 |
| clivejo | but no subscribe in there | 23:42 |
| valorie | :( | 23:42 |
| valorie | no join or ? | 23:42 |
| clivejo | Profile, Cards, Settings, Help, Apps, Shortcuts, Share Trello, Getting started guide,trello blog, change language, log out | 23:44 |
| valorie | pfff | 23:44 |
| valorie | well, perhaps Riddell has to invite you | 23:44 |
| valorie | I don't see a way to do that | 23:44 |
| valorie | as sgclark says | 23:44 |
| clivejo | must have to be added | 23:46 |
| valorie | oh gosh, already time to make dinner | 23:48 |
| clivejo | valorie: are you on wily? | 23:48 |
| valorie | not yet | 23:48 |
| valorie | I'm thinking about trying to upgrade the other laptop, but since networking is dead on it, sort of hard to do that | 23:49 |
| valorie | for now I'm stuck on this old slow one | 23:49 |
| clivejo | how did it die? | 23:49 |
| valorie | seems like the card itself flickered for awhile like a guttering candle | 23:50 |
| valorie | then died altogether | 23:50 |
| valorie | I tried a USB wireless thing but nothing | 23:50 |
| clivejo | is the card being recognised? | 23:50 |
| clivejo | BluesKaj: will you be around in a free hours? | 23:54 |
| clivejo | few | 23:54 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo: do you have a trello account? | 23:57 |
| clivejo | ahoneybun: yes, just created one | 23:58 |
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