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seb128good morning desktopers07:12
larsuanyone know what /usr/lib/icon-naming-utils/icon-name-mapping is from?07:21
larsuor even what it is supposed to do?07:21
larsuwow. this is old.07:23
seb128larsu, dpkg -S tell you "what ... is from"07:24
larsuseb128: it wasn't installed07:24
seb128it is now?07:24
larsuit is used in the rules file of humanity07:24
seb128larsu, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ replies to that question07:24
larsubut has no dep...07:24
seb128larsu, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=icon-name-mapping&mode=exactfilename&suite=trusty&arch=any07:25
larsuah cool07:25
seb128larsu, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/humanity/release/view/head:/debian/control07:27
seb128larsu, it does build-depends on  icon-naming-utils07:27
larsuseb128: s/control/rules. I should learn to speak debian more fluently :P07:27
seb128but depends/build-depends are in control07:28
seb128not rules07:28
larsuseb128: I always get those two files mixed up07:28
seb128ah, I see07:28
larsuseb128: icon-name-mapping is used in rules, but there's no dep on icon-naming-utils07:29
seb128larsu, there is a buil-depends07:29
seb128depends are runtime things07:29
seb128buil-depends are build-time ones07:29
seb128rules is package build = build-time = build-depends07:30
larsuoh right, thanks seb12807:30
larsuI was looking in proper depends because I thought dh_install is called then07:30
larsubut thinking about that, it doesn't make a lot of sense :)07:31
* larsu still thinks that call is not necessary07:31
seb128larsu, we can drop it if not needed07:37
larsufinding that out right now07:38
pittibonjour mes amis !07:39
* pitti waves to larsu and seb12807:39
seb128hey pitti! ça va bien ?07:39
larsuah bonjour pitti!07:39
pittiseb128: oui, je vais bien, merci ! j'aime l'été !07:40
pittij'ai vu "Spamalot" à Munich samedi, c'était drôle !07:41
seb128ah, ça me rappelle des souvenirs :-)07:41
pittiseb128: oui, nous avons le vu à Londrès, il y a quelques ans07:42
pittiavec tous l'équpipe de platform07:42
seb128pitti, moi aussi j'aime l'été mais pas quand il est trop chaud, ils ont prévu > 30°C aujourd'hui, c'est trop pour travailler07:42
pittiseb128: ah, il fait encore bien dans ma chambre07:43
seb128ici aussi ça va le matin, mais il fait trop chaud l'après-midi07:43
* seb128 bets that larsu wishes that he had took french classes instead of spanish ones :p07:43
* larsu understands most of that07:44
pittiseb128: I usually close the windows around 10 when it's getting warm, and put down the shades on the south side, that helps quite a lot07:46
seb128yeah, trying to do the same ;-)07:47
seb128pitti, btw do you take summer holidays?07:48
larsuhm, humanity seems to be the only icon theme that has <context>/<size> directories instead of <size>/<context>07:48
pittiseb128: oui, 3ème semaine de julliet; nous allons vélo à la riviére "Lech"07:50
seb128larsu, is that what is creating the issue? or are you trying to make it more standard now?07:50
pittiseb128: nous encore avons des vacances en mars, alors nous pouvons prendre seulment une semaine cet été07:50
pittiseb128: "avons eu" (non?)07:51
seb128pitti, "avons eu" oui07:51
larsuune semaine n'est pas enough!07:51
seb128pitti, amusez vous bien quand même pendant cette semaine :-)07:51
pittilarsu: mais oui, ça suffit pour moi07:51
larsuseb128: it's not causing the issue, no. It just makes it harder to rearrange stuff07:52
larsumaybe I should just continue hacking index.theme07:52
seb128yeah, we don't have major issues, if another hack is enough to get us going let's do that07:53
larsuseb128: I'm afraid it pop up again some time ... but then, changing a lot of stuff might also break things07:54
seb128yeah, let's see next time it bites us07:55
seb128we might have the convergence/new theme by then07:55
seb128we didn't have issues with humanity for years07:55
seb128until GTK decided to do non backward compatible changes, which hopefully doesn't happen every cycle...07:56
larsuthere's a spec for a reason - gtk is simply following it now07:57
seb128I object, it's still breaking backward compat but let's agree to disagree on that07:59
larsuit is, I agree, and it's frustrating08:00
seb128every backward incompatible change is removing credibility to the platform08:00
seb128the appdevs hate having their apps start to bug when they didn't change anything08:01
larsuhumanity isn't the only icon theme out there, though08:01
larsuprobably this change was made for some other theme that did things according to spec08:01
larsuyo Laney08:03
Laneyit is hot!08:04
* Laney has been out watering the plants08:04
Laneyhow's it going?08:04
larsusitting in a cafe enjoying the sun08:04
seb128hey Laney08:04
larsuand not enjoying reading icon theme spec08:04
larsuwhat's the reason for having a separate package for humanity icons but not for mono/mobile/suru?08:14
seb128larsu, license/copyright owners08:14
seb128humanity is a community theme08:14
seb128the other ones are Canonical work08:15
Sweet5hark1sweetmorn everyone!08:17
pittihey Sweet5hark1, wie gehts?08:17
larsuhi Sweet5hark108:18
* Sweet5hark1 has #achievementunlocked: finally seemed to have untrained myself from typing apt-get instead of just plain apt ...08:18
Sweet5hark1pitti, larsu: heya, finally great weather here in the north too ;)08:18
Laneyapt build-dep # nooooo!08:20
seb128hey Sweet5hark108:20
Sweet5hark1Laney: hrhr08:21
* Laney eyes udev postinst08:55
Laneyoh, there08:56
Laneyit took ~60s (both in lxc and on bare metal)08:56
Laneyah, "systemd-udevd.service: Watchdog timeout (limit 1min)!"08:57
darkxsthey seb128 Laney, any thoughts on what to do with the schemas that moved from g-s-d into gsettings-desktop-schemas? reverting them will break the migration code for GNOME. port u-s-d to use the new ones?  Not entirely sure its an exactly 1:1 mapping though09:03
ubot5Launchpad bug 1468943 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Update to 3.16" [Wishlist,Triaged]09:04
seb128not really sorry09:04
larsubah. gsettings schemas are API :/09:04
darkxstlarsu, mutter uses them directly for wayland/libinput I think09:06
Laneydarkxst: can we cherry-pick the new stuff into usd/ucc?09:06
larsudarkxst: my point was that settings keys shouldn't be moved in minor releases09:07
darkxstlarsu, this is 3.14->3.1609:07
darkxstg-s-d has not been updated yet09:07
larsuwhich is a minor release....09:08
darkxstLaney, probably not directly, the new stuff is accomadation the changes in mutter, that now handles input settings09:08
Laneythen you could move them to a com.ubuntu name and do a migration in usd09:08
Laneyif you want09:08
darkxstlarsu, keys get added every cycles09:09
seb128having key addes is fine09:09
seb128having them removed/moved/renamed is not09:09
darkxstthey were only added in gsettings09:11
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darkxstand if it wasnt for the migration code, code just revert them back as usual in g-s-d09:11
mdeslaurLaney: why did you mark the ca-certificates bug as invalid?11:14
Laneymdeslaur: I filed it twice due to a timeout, that's not the one you were assigned to11:16
ubot5Launchpad bug 1469803 in ca-certificates (Ubuntu) "Connecting to some sites via glib-networking is broken due to removed certificates" [Undecided,New]11:17
mdeslauroh! I see11:17
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* seb128 indicates bug #1453549 to Laney12:03
ubot5bug 1453549 in shotwell (Ubuntu) "Cannot publish to Facebook" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/145354912:03
Laneyare you referring to my comment on the wk2 bug?12:04
Laneyokey dokey12:04
seb128yorba needs to update their facebook key/settings12:04
seb128but they seem to be mia on shotwell12:04
seb128like that topic got emails on the upstream list and several active bzg bugs12:05
seb128but nobody is responding12:05
Laneyif there is a fix in their thing on facebook there's not a lot we can do12:06
Laneylemme make a note to check on it in a couple of weeks12:07
Laneycan maybe pull some strings to get someone active on it12:07
seb128I'm checking weekly, but if you have people you can ping please do that ;-)12:08
Laneynot really, probably larsu does more12:08
Laneyright I'm doing a lunchtime sun ride to the cafe then going to find a park/library to work in12:13
seb128Laney, enjoy!12:15
larsutedg: was just asked about libappindicator reviews. Who's maintaining that these days?12:46
* larsu hopes it's not larsu 12:46
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mitya57tedg: I would like to get reviews on two libappindicator MPs by albertsmuktupavels13:12
mitya57While I have rights to merge/upload it myself, it would be nice to get it reviewed by someone else13:12
mitya57tedg: corrected: two by albertsmuktupavels and one by /me :)13:19
* Laney has found a shady place13:28
tedgmitya57, Let me look13:39
Laneyspiky tree is spiky13:47
Laneystupid nature13:47
larsuLaney: this is why we make chairs out of them before sitting on them :P13:48
qenghoLaney: In my co-working group, in the park a few weeks ago, Nature waited until we were complacent and busy and then deployed the swarm of caterpillars. It was super effective. Beware.13:51
LaneyI am using my powers of reasoning to fashion a pillow out of a jumper13:51
LaneyAh crap. Blowtorch?13:51
qenghoRetreat and showers.13:52
anpok_Laney: i made a new patch that incorporates most of the gtk+3.16 changes14:04
anpok_but not the ones related to a gl context..14:05
anpok_do you know a good way to test that package on a wily system?14:05
Laneyhi anpok_14:05
Laneypatch for what?14:05
Laneygtk 3.14?14:05
Laneyjust install it and downgrade your gtk, taking out any apps that require the new one14:06
Laneymir hackers are hardcore folk14:06
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Laneyor fix mir to work in VMs :) :) :)14:08
* Laney runs14:08
seb128Laney, it does work in vm14:08
* seb128 has unity8 session working on ubuntu personal with virt-manager14:08
Laneythen try it in a vm?14:08
seb128trying what?14:09
seb128I lack context14:09
LaneyI don't know  why you would ask about running it on wily otherwise14:09
Laneymir backend update for 3.1414:09
seb128did we mix versions there?14:09
seb128anpok_, did you mean trunk to 3.16?14:10
Laneythat is already done14:10
Laneyit i s for the overlay ppa14:10
seb128why not for distro?14:10
Laneyare they SRUing the new mir?14:11
seb128ok, I'm confused14:11
seb128if we speak trunk to 3.16 it's not SRU but wily?14:11
LaneyAPI break in overlay ppa14:11
Laney->  need to update gtk14:11
seb128ah ok14:11
Laneysame for wily but that is done already and for a different gtk series14:12
seb128that's the context I was missing ;-)14:12
Laneyanpok_: why not use a VM?14:12
seb128I'm still interested to see a gtk-mir backend update in wily14:12
seb128Laney, vm for what?14:12
Laneyyour dreams have come true14:12
Laneyfor testing the overlay ppa update...14:12
seb128Laney, vivid-overlay is the base for our current devices and the pocket pc work14:12
seb128so I guess we need to update gtk with mir there14:13
seb128or the gtk-mir backend14:13
LaneyI know...14:13
LaneyI'm saying why not use a VM to check it works14:13
Laneyinstead of downgrading a wily system14:13
seb128ah, I see14:13
seb128Laney, thanks for the gtk update in that ppa ;-)14:14
Laneyattente did it really14:14
Laneybut thanks for the thanks :P14:14
* Laney screams at deleting double spaces all the time14:14
seb128is that issue specific to your xps? could be an hardware issue?14:15
seb128I didn't see others complain about that14:15
Laneyit's bios14:15
seb128but maybe not many people got the newest revision14:15
anpok_Laney: sure .. vm it will be..14:15
Laneycheck the thread i linked to in that mail14:15
* Laney has emailed superm1, waiting to hear back again14:16
LaneyI prepared my meeting notes a whole hour early by mistake!14:42
seb128Laney, it's the sun getting to you!14:55
seb128Trevinho, hey, you typoed a "t" at the start of the modline on https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity-settings-daemon/automount-monitor-lockscreen/+merge/259514 , can you fix?15:15
Trevinhoouch, sure15:15
Trevinhoseb128: done, overwritten though15:16
seb128Trevinho, that's ok, thanks15:16
larsu*cough* *cough*15:30
seb128oh it's meeting time15:30
seb128attente, desrt(?), dgadomski, FJKong, happyaron, Laney, larsu, qengho, Sweet5hark, tkamppeter, hey15:31
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Jun 30 15:31:36 2015 UTC.  The chair is seb128. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:31
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seb128ok, let's get started15:33
seb128#topic attente15:33
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seb128attente, hey15:33
attenterevisions to apparmor kernel patch for dconf again, waiting for review15:34
attentemerge the gtk-mir wip branch into upstream master and backport those patches to the ubuntu gtk package15:34
attentedebugging a weird issue where the backend is sending mouse release events immediately after mouse press events, only affects our package15:34
seb128thanks for updating our gtk versions/backporting the fixes from trunk!15:35
attentenp! but this mouse event bug is pretty bad...15:36
seb128yeah, I guess it's next to debug?15:36
attenteyeah. it's basically making it impossible to click anything other than the menus15:36
seb128attente, thanks15:37
seb128I guess no desrt (I think he said he was off monday/tuesday)15:37
seb128#topic dgadomski15:37
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seb128dgadomski, hey15:37
dgadomskiThere were no desktop issues reported to me lately, so this week I was busy with non-desktop stuff.15:37
dgadomskiThat's it, thanks.15:38
seb128dgadomski, thanks15:38
seb128#topic FJKong15:38
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Laneywe fixed all the bugs \m/15:38
seb128FJKong, hey15:38
FJKong1 continue working on fixing lacking status bar image15:38
FJKong2 add input tip to sogou Shuang Pin Im15:38
FJKong3 get feek back from community: sometimes input window shows abnormal15:38
FJKong4 one day holiday15:38
seb128FJKong, thanks15:39
seb128#topic happyaron15:39
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seb128happyaron, hey15:39
seb128no happyaron?15:40
seb128#topic Laney15:40
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seb128Laney, hey15:40
Laney• Worked  more on e-d-s and gstreamer transitions, these are both (still?) blocked on Canonical people helping me out :)15:41
ubot5Launchpad bug 1469208 in qtorganizer5-eds (Ubuntu) "Recurrence test fails with e-d-s 3.16" [Undecided,New]15:41
Laney∘ email with jhodapp about updating gst-bad, says he will get it scheduled15:41
Laney• Start looking at webkitgtk2 transition for main15:41
Laney∘ Ported shotwell15:41
Laney∘ Ported apturl (simple)15:41
Laney∘ Look at evolution (argh)15:41
Laney∘ Some other apps have WIP ports upstream15:41
Laney• Update glib2.0 (in progress, gio/tests/appmonitor fails, desrtttttt)15:41
Laney• Check/upload gtk3.16 mir backend refresh15:41
Laney• Work with seb128 to get poppler/wps/proj migrated & do some final updates15:41
Laney• Fix chromium autopkgtest & sikuli to get this migrated and unblock glib -> gtk which were waiting on it15:41
Laneyactually I take it all back15:42
Laney4e7d22e268a4e06beb1c09585a48288c31004da5 is the first bad commit15:42
Laneycommit 4e7d22e268a4e06beb1c09585a48288c31004da515:42
LaneyAuthor: Matthias Clasen <mclasen@redhat.com>15:42
qenghoThanks laney!15:43
seb128Laney, thanks15:43
qenghoThat sikuli thing is bothering me. There has to be a way to detect the require jar files at package time, instead of keeping them in a script.15:43
seb128unsure what the commits are about15:43
qenghoIt will break again.15:43
Laneythe one that broke glib's test15:44
seb128oh, the failed appmonitor test15:44
seb128Laney, thanks15:44
seb128#topic larsu15:44
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larsuey that's me15:44
seb128larsu, hey15:44
larsuhad a very short week due to two days off15:44
larsuworked on those 1000 little theming and icon bugs that people pinged me with in the last couple of weeks15:45
larsuexpect big MRs this week (maybe I should separate them a bit?)15:45
seb128yeah, regular landing of small bits seems better than batching a big stack15:45
larsulots of very small bits though15:46
larsubut I agree15:46
larsuwill do that15:46
larsuotherwise the usual: Bugs.15:46
seb128larsu, thanks15:46
seb128#topic qengho15:46
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seb128qengho, hey15:46
qengho* Commercial PES/OEM support.15:47
qengho* Getting chromium-browser widevine plugin supported if installed manually or Google Chrome installed.15:47
qengho* Reviewed NaCl patches for contributor. Might get that working, and packaged before 15.10!15:47
qengho* Un-blacklisting all GPU in chromium, but setting the preference to default to Off. Might need to get apport pattern if errors.u.c spikes again.15:47
qengho* chromium-browser release tomorrow, with ^fixes.15:47
seb128qengho, at the meeting a week ago you said "I'll ask you to sponsor today." about the new version, what happened to that?15:48
qenghoLaney fixed the test problem, and commercial folks wanted widevine support included.15:49
seb128he did fixed it some days after since you didn't give news about your upload and didn't respond to ping15:50
seb128oh, well15:50
seb128qengho, thanks15:50
seb128#topic seb12815:50
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seb128ok, my turn ;-)15:50
seb128• snappy fun still ongoing15:50
seb128∘ debugging unity8/mir not starting, after 2 days trying to figure out what's going between lightdm/usc/unity8 (and trying to get help from people knowing those component better) figured out that usc is waiting on vt8 and that lightdm doesn't do the switch, when doing it manually unity8 starts!15:50
seb128∘ noticed then that unity8 regressed in wily and that the desktop session shows the phone greeter now, tracked down the issue to a recent landing and reported bug/pinged unity team15:50
seb128∘ updated livecd-rootfs to write a /e/d/locales config on desktop-next15:50
seb128• reviewed some u-s-s and u-s-d merge requests15:50
seb128• some NEW reviews & archive admin commands for Laney15:50
seb128mostly still trying to get snappy personal working, but getting there15:50
seb128#topic Sweet5hark115:50
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Laneymy favourite script runner15:50
seb128Sweet5hark1, hey15:50
Sweet5hark1- bumped prereleases ppa from 5.0~rc1 to ~rc215:51
Sweet5hark1- merged from Debian (ongoing)15:51
Sweet5hark1- discussed/provided support for LibreOfficeKit on Ubuntu touch15:51
Sweet5hark1- some upstream refactoring/test adding (finally blogged on that: https://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/i-would-kill-500-lines-and-i-would-kill-500-more/ )15:51
Sweet5hark1- bumped LibreOffice fresh ppa to 4.4.4 (rc2 and rc3, which is final)15:51
Sweet5hark1- some LTS patch backporting15:51
Sweet5hark1- some GSOC mentoring15:51
Sweet5hark1- usual foundation and ESC tasks: some conf orga, major release prep, grants and budgeting15:51
Sweet5hark1- most importantly: made the LibreOffice build system default to colored output on an interactive shell *cough*15:51
seb128Sweet5hark1, thanks15:51
seb128#topic tkamppeter15:51
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seb128tkamppeter, hey15:51
tkamppeter- Made ippusbxd (IPP-over-USB daemon) getting started and keep running in systemd environment.15:51
tkamppeter- Worked on finding out how to reliably stop ippusbxd when the printer is turned off or disconnected.15:51
tkamppeter- Added functionality to try always to use the same port for ippusbxd and change only if the desired port is already taken by something else.15:51
tkamppeter- Bugs.15:51
seb128tkamppeter, thanks15:51
seb128#topic robert_ancell15:51
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seb128- Updated version tracker to current wily package versions.15:51
seb128- Made a GNOME version page (http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/gnome.html). This makes it easier to see a similar / simpler set of packages to update (the other lists have too many packages).15:51
seb128- Open bugs for all GNOME packages we have yet to update to 3.16 (particularly so we can note why we haven't updated them in the case of difficult transitions)15:51
seb128- Updated various wily packages to latest stable versions.15:51
pittitkamppeter: stop stuff when printer is turned off> udev rules?15:52
seb128#topic other topics15:52
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seb128did I forget anyone? do we have other topics?15:52
Laneyhelp welcome on wk2 ;-)15:52
Laneynot sure we will get there this cycle15:53
seb128is debian doing that transition as well?15:53
seb128do we have any insensitive to go ahead with that now?15:53
Laneynot actively15:53
Laneythe old version doesn't get updates any more15:53
seb128I would rather postpone the work if it's not really needed15:53
Laneynot even the webkit level of security support15:54
Laneystaying on an ancient version forever doesn't seem great15:54
seb128yeah, I'm not saying forever, but we could let others do the heavy lifting by postponing by one cycle15:54
seb128well, if we have the spare resources to do it and people want to work on it I'm not against it either15:55
Laneyya I was doing stuff which nobody started on15:55
seb128if anybody feels like helping on that please do ;-)15:56
Laneyand I think I will not do evolution, that looks hadrd15:56
seb128anything else?15:56
Laney-> probably not make 15.1015:56
seb128it means transition in a lts cycle though :-/15:56
seb128k, I guess we can wrap the meeting15:57
seb128thanks everyone15:57
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Breaking your systems: GTK 3.16 - file bugs with tag "gtk316"
meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jun 30 15:58:11 2015 UTC.15:58
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2015/ubuntu-desktop.2015-06-30-15.31.moin.txt15:58
* Laney fixed the test15:58
seb128does anyone know how to upload a refresh from lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.wily to the archive?16:03
seb128I'm having issues building that and need to go for some erands before shop closed16:03
seb128if somebody can do that for me while I'm away I might be able to retry a desktop-next build when I'm back16:03
seb128otherwise no worry, it's going to be for tomorrow16:03
* seb128 bbiab16:03
Laneyseb128: what's the issue?16:04
seb128Laney, I think me not knowing how those stuff works anymore :p16:05
Laneyget ubuntu-touch-meta, run ./update, build pkg & upload16:06
Laneythis wifi tethering is destroying my battery16:06
seb128ah ok, I tried to get the package from the archive and apply the diff I commited16:06
* Laney should have brought a cable16:06
* ogra_ pokes Laney 16:06
seb128ok, well maybe I've a look later but need to go now16:07
seb128maybe ogra_ can sponsor it for me, that's the drop from cloud-init :p16:07
Laneycan look anyway, let me file this testfix first16:07
ogra_"read the changelog and verify the changes very carefully before dput"16:07
seb128Laney, thanks16:07
Laneyogra_: HAHA you and your old ways16:07
Laneyif no bug report -> upload was fine16:07
ogra_yeah, phone kind of weaned me from cowboy style :P16:08
hallynunity on my wily system sudenly gives me a blank screen.  known problem?16:36
seb128hallyn, no16:56
seb128hallyn, anything interesting in the logs? does a guest session works?16:56
seb128Laney, thanks for the upload!16:57
seb128(crazy country where most shops close at 6pm and where you can get vegetable&co only until 7pm)16:57
hallynseb128: which logs?16:59
seb128hallyn, .xsession-errors ~/.cache/upstart/gnome-session*|unity*17:00
ogra_seb128, and you cant even phone the shop from your car anymore so they stay open longer for you now ...17:03
seb128ogra_, :-)17:13
hallynseb128: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/gnome-session-Unity.log.1.gz , though it seems old.  also http://paste.ubuntu.com/11800186/17:16
seb128hallyn, 1.gz has wrong permission and is a rotated log, can you delete ~/.xsession-errors and .cache/upstart and try to log in and see what logs you get?17:24
hallynseb128: http://people.canonical.com/~serge/unitylogs.tgz18:02
seb128hallyn, looks like unity plugin is not in your compiz config18:18
seb128hallyn, try to "dconf reset -f /org/compiz"18:19
* hallyn tries18:24
hallynnope, same thing :(18:27
hallynseb128: i should point out that whil i was using unity for the last two weeks until this morning, 'unity' seemed to have gotten uninstalled in my latest apt-get update18:35
hallyni had to apt-get install it.  is there something else i should perhaps be installing?18:35
hallyni don't see a 'unity-panel' command18:35
hallynmaybei should just take the chance to install unity818:35
hallynor will that mess up18:36
hallynmy x+lightdm s that i can no longer run other window managers if/when unity has a problem?18:36
EphraimMBCan you please show me a screenshot of what unity 8 looks like right now?18:39

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