[00:11] <diddledan> emergency. kittens. https://twitter.com/EmrgencyKittens/status/615662321642414080/photo/1 !!!
[01:00] <daftykins> diddledan: Connection reset by purr - https://i.imgur.com/x6iQ1RD.jpg
[01:00] <diddledan> naww
[01:00] <diddledan> that's sooo koot
[01:01] <daftykins> hmm activated the new SIM for the guy who dropped his phone in a harbour, phone still doesn't join a network
[01:02] <daftykins> granted O2 said 24hrs but wat
[01:43] <diddledan> https://instagram.com/p/4iQXgdj2a2/
[01:43] <diddledan> lol
[01:45] <daftykins> :)
[03:23] <mapps> yo
[04:15] <mapps> :4iant wait for the USSR  again
[04:15] <mapps> :)
[06:58] <popey> morning
[07:48] <MooDoo> morning popey
[08:07] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Meteor Watch Day! 😃
[08:14] <knightwise> mornin
[08:17] <awilkins> Office365 mail seems to have failed. Woe is me.
[08:18] <knightwise> auw
[08:29] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:33] <foobarry> leap second tonight
[08:33] <foobarry> broke stuff last time
[08:35] <awilkins> What, so the leap second is breaking things so hard that the effects are rippling back into the past ;-)
[08:36] <foobarry> 485.3 MiB +  77.9 MiB = 563.2 MiB	chrome (11)
[08:36] <foobarry> 690.5 MiB +   2.8 MiB = 693.3 MiB	firefox
[08:36] <foobarry> fierefox has 2 windows and 12 tabs. chrome has 1 tab :|
[08:36] <foobarry> it is an OS in a browser though
[08:40] <zmoylan-pi> and government spy platform
[08:41] <JamesTait> "OK Google. Send all my browsing information to GCHQ."
[08:41] <zmoylan-pi> what again? :-)
[08:46] <foobarry> face it, the pipes have sniffers on anyway. using midori and duckduckgo aint gonna change that
[08:47] <zmoylan-pi> it's only defeat if you accept it
[08:47] <popey> foobarry: does your machine only have 1GB RAM or something?
[08:47] <foobarry> 8GB
[08:47] <foobarry> its an i5 desktop
[08:48] <foobarry> as we discussed yesterday, in normal use chrome is using 6gb for a few tabs
[08:48] <foobarry> its shot up lately
[08:50] <popey> erk
[08:55] <foobarry> after a full disk, apt-get install -f doesn't work, complaining of no space on device, even thoguh there now is
[08:55] <foobarry> don eautoclean and autoremove...
[08:56] <bashrc_> morning
[09:00] <foobarry> ah, dpkg --configure -a
[09:02] <mapps> SHEESH
[09:10] <foobarry> aaaaah inodes
[09:10] <foobarry> ran out of inodes
[09:17] <davmor2> JamesTait: that doesn't sound like a happy day at all ;)
[09:18] <JamesTait> davmor2, more of a happy night, I suppose. 😉
[09:20] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:20] <davmor2> JamesTait: also you didn't say good morning infront of it so who are you and what have you done with the real JamesTait ??????
[09:21] <JamesTait> 2015-06-30T09:07:01+0100 < JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Meteor Watch Day! 😃
[09:21] <JamesTait> davmor2, you need to read further back. 😝
[09:22] <davmor2> JamesTait: what the hell were you doing up so twirly
[09:23] <foobarry> now autoremove is not removing old kernels :(
[09:23] <zmoylan-pi> problem with happy meteor watching day is that some asteroid will use it as cover... :-P
[09:24] <zmoylan-pi> oooooh that's a big ****BOOOMMMMMM****
[09:25] <JamesTait> davmor2, it does happen occasionally. Today's excuse is... I don't really have an excuse, but I will be out for a large-ish part of tomorrow afternoon, so I suppose this is partially making up that time.
[09:25] <davmor2> JamesTait: ah fair enough
[09:26] <zmoylan-pi> so... tomorrow will be national non JamesTait day?.... :-)
[09:27] <JamesTait> davmor2, I think today I just decided to get straight into work instead of tinkering beforehand. ☺
[09:27] <JamesTait> zmoylan-pi, if that asteroid hits me, yes!
[09:28] <JamesTait> But I suspect, if that were to happen, a missing JamesTait would be the least of everyone's worries.
[09:28] <zmoylan-pi> could you visit ukip hq tomorrow? 2 birds one gianomorous rock... :-P
[09:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: we don't need to know about your toilet habits before you start work :P
[09:29] <JamesTait> davmor2, only you could turn "tinkering" into something toilet-related. 😉
[09:31] <davmor2> JamesTait: well it would either be me or popey but he is probably in the garden sun bathing while pretending to work, so not really reading the chat on irc unless he nick is pinged ;)
[09:31] <JamesTait> Yeah, davmor2, but who would ping popey? 😝
[09:32] <popey> well
[09:32] <popey> I did pop to the shop to get some milk
[09:32] <popey> but no, too hot to sit in the garden
[09:32] <zmoylan-pi> we could order lawn darts off ebay and throw them at him in his garden? :-P
[09:32] <foobarry> i love this weather so much
[09:33] <foobarry> looks shady on your webcam
[09:33] <davmor2> popey: hahaha :)
[09:45] <mapps> hm
[09:45] <mapps> i need o quit smoking
[09:46] <mapps> i went for a 5k run and it killed me
[09:46] <zmoylan-pi> apply lubricant first...
[09:46] <mapps> and i think im in good shape
[09:46] <mapps> il prob never quit ;)
[09:46] <mapps> but i can try;p
[09:46] <foobarry> smoking reduces lung capacity
[09:47] <zmoylan-pi> smoking reduces money...
[09:47] <foobarry> and life capacity
[09:47] <diplo> Hi all, keep having my network dropping on my 15.04 box randomly
[09:48] <mapps> im on about 25-30/day
[09:48] <diplo> Any pointers where to look, all other machines on lan are fine, will try a cable but think it's software related as I'm sure I did some updates  Friday before shutting down
[09:48] <diplo> Started yesterday when i booted PC up back at work
[09:49] <mapps> i think im in trouble
[09:49] <mapps> 25-30 for 18 years
[09:49] <foobarry> switch to ecig?
[09:49] <foobarry> or champix
[09:49] <mapps> nah
[09:50] <diplo> nah, don't do e-cigs, my sister and a few other people I know are addicted to them now
[09:50] <mapps> because i also have a drink problem remember;p
[09:50] <diplo> :)
[09:50] <mapps> lol
[09:50] <foobarry> a friend quit on champix
[09:50] <diplo> Just go cold turkey! That's how I did it
[09:50] <diplo> 60 a day to nothing
[09:50] <foobarry> he was doing a study
[09:50] <foobarry> clinical trial type thing
[09:50] <foobarry> and he quit compeltely
[09:51] <mapps> im 25-30/day 10 pints /half a litre of vodka day
[09:51] <mapps> ;p
[09:51] <bashrc_> diplo: I remember I had a similar problem, but I don't think I fixed it
[09:51] <diplo> :(
[09:51] <bashrc_> i.e. wifi dropping out occasionally and not coming back
[09:51] <foobarry> being addicted to ecigs is more healthy
[09:51] <diplo> I'll try and dig out a cable
[09:51] <diplo> This is wired bashrc_
[09:51] <foobarry> bashrc_: i read that as wife popping out occasionally and not coming back
[09:51] <bashrc_> ok
[09:51] <diplo> Which makes it even odder
[09:51] <shauno> 'more' is still debatable.  it's trading known risks for unknown risks at this point.
[09:52] <bashrc_> foobarry: :)
[09:52] <diplo> +1 shauno
[09:52] <diplo> I started again after 15+ years of giving up
[09:52] <foobarry> oh
[09:52] <foobarry> that sucks
[09:52] <shauno> well that was silly
[09:52] <foobarry> life event?
[09:53] <bashrc_> recently I bought a load of wifi dongles from thinkpenguin, and they work well even on the most hardcore free software systems
[09:53] <diplo> It does, and yup
[09:53] <mapps> why cant i get help then;/
[09:53] <diplo> Wife left me and been in a lot of pain for 2-3 years ( still undiagnosed ) and I use it to take my mind off it
[09:54] <mapps> :((
[09:54] <mapps> that sucks diplo
[09:54] <diplo> mapps: You've got to want to give up, you've got to be in the mindset
[09:54] <mapps> but i dont want to
[09:54] <diplo> When I gave up I had decided that it would be £2.50 a pack of 20, or work stopped letting us smoke inside
[09:54] <diplo> Both things happened on the same day!
[09:54] <mapps> i enjoy drinking
[09:54] <diplo> So I stopped there and then
[09:55] <mapps> geez
[09:55] <shauno> and then came back when it got to e10/pack?
[09:55] <diplo> Well you're never going to give up if you don't want to, for me it was my kids as well
[09:55] <mapps> £2.50 how old are you;p
[09:55] <diplo> Rollies shauno :)
[09:55] <diplo> 39
[09:55] <mapps> its like  8.10 a pack now
[09:55] <mapps> ;p
[09:55] <diplo> Smoked from when I was 12 till I was 22
[09:55] <mapps> ive smoked since i was 18 ..31 now
[09:56] <foobarry> are you planning on giving up again?
[09:56] <diplo> Yeah
[09:56] <foobarry> today!
[09:56] <mapps> its so cheap here i smoke more
[09:56] <mapps> £2.20 20 marlboro
[09:56] <diplo> I sometimes go a day or two without one, then I get in real pain and I want a ciggie, so defo easy to do
[09:56] <mapps> £5 litre of stoli vodka
[09:57] <diplo> Just started a new exercise regime to try and fix myself as docs are failing, I think that more than anything will make me quit as I'm so short of breath atm
[09:57] <mapps> i can smoke/drink myself to death for £10
[09:57] <mapps> diplo
[09:58] <mapps> i ran 5k yesterday it killed me
[09:58] <mapps> jesus
[09:58] <mapps> i felt awful
[09:58] <diplo> I do about 2 miles, can just about handle that, whats that 4k?
[09:58] <diplo> But I cycle for 10-20 miles most weekends
[10:00] <shauno> cycling and smoking are a pretty horrid combination
[10:00] <mapps> nah
[10:00] <shauno> if nothing else, it's really difficult to light with that much wind
[10:00] <mapps> cycling is easy
[10:00] <mapps> its running that kills us;p
[10:02] <mapps> im sitting here smoking lol
[10:02] <shauno> poor computer :(
[10:03] <mapps> smoking kills.fact
[10:03] <mapps> idiots game
[10:04] <brobostigon> most things could kill you under the wrong circumstances, even taking a bath.
[10:04] <mapps> it killed my mum .so that says it all
[10:05] <brobostigon> it killed my gf's gradnmother as well.
[10:05] <mapps> she smoked herself to death
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> which is natures way of saying don't smoke
[10:07] <mapps> yep;p
[10:07] <mapps> my mum would be alive if she hadnt smoked
[10:07] <mapps> died at 42:(
[10:10] <bashrc_> :(
[10:11]  * bashrc_ doesn't smoke
[10:11] <directhex> smoking is entirely natural.
[10:11]  * mapps does
[10:11] <directhex> if you're a very dry tree.
[10:12] <mapps> il prob die from drink
[10:12] <mapps> before smoking
[10:13] <foobarry> its your choice
[10:14] <mapps> nah
[10:14] <foobarry> oh but it is
[10:15] <mapps> yes and no
[10:17] <mapps> i didnt ask for any of this;p mum dying my irlfriend cheating on me
[10:17] <mapps> didnt ask for it:P
[10:19] <shauno> the crutch is, however, entirely your own doing
[10:31] <diplo> See my grandad smoked from 16 -> 86
[10:34] <SuperMatt> tune in to court 3 for a plucky Brit taking on a Ukranian fellow
[11:04] <awilkins> Someone recommend good hosting
[11:05] <popey> hetzner
[11:05] <ujjain> peeing standing up on a toilet and not putting the toilet seat up is a horrible thing to do, right?
[11:07] <awilkins> Smoking : yes, there is an element of personal responsibility involved, but for many years the tobacco companies pretended that it was harmless or even good for your and they have a large culpability
[11:08] <awilkins> Esp. for knowingly increasing nicotine levels and deliberately including chemicals that improve nicotine absorption so as to maximise addictive effects
[11:10] <daftykins> diddledan: win10 10158 \o/
[11:10] <shauno> ujjain: varies.  if it's a public toilet, not touching the seat is probably a good thing.  if you're sharing a house with a woman, it's a capital offense.  common sense & good judgement is up to you :)
[11:12] <zmoylan-pi> of course if it's a toilet with systemd installed you don't want to touch that one at all so accidents can be expected... :-)
[11:13] <daftykins> oh my how topical!
[11:19] <bujji> hello
[11:21] <daftykins> oh not you again :P
[11:23] <bujji> :))
[11:26] <daftykins> hurrah at a second Samsung Galaxy S3 repaired
[11:26] <daftykins> diplo: it's totally easy :P
[11:27] <diplo> Oh really? It was more the price of screens that put me off
[11:27] <diplo> Cheapest I found at the time was £85~
[11:27] <daftykins> oh i see, i got these for £48 each
[11:28] <daftykins> depends on the colour of model you want
[11:28] <diplo> Incl Digi ?
[11:28] <diplo> Ones white, ones granite grey
[11:28] <daftykins> entire LCD, digitiser, glass and main frame assembly
[11:28] <diplo> I never found it for that price!?!?!?!?!?
[11:28] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/222k7jecohmd13b/AABqemkMg4icFEf0Jzjbaj2Ta?dl=0
[11:28] <diplo> That was maybe Pre November
[11:28] <diplo> Came to the conclusion it was too dear
[11:28] <daftykins> basically get that entire asembly, so you just transfer over a few components and job's a good-un
[11:29] <diplo> Can you link me to where you bought yours ?
[11:29] <daftykins> sure, was just tracking it down
[11:29] <diplo> ta fanx :)
[11:30] <daftykins> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-For-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-I9300-LCD-Display-Digitizer-Touch-Screen-Frame-/231052287479
[11:30] <daftykins> there we are, i got both from the same seller
[11:30] <daftykins> i didn't use the little toolkit as i had my own, but the spudger could come in handy for some perhaps
[11:31] <daftykins> they come with some grease smeared over the samsung logo as they must've had their wrists slapped, but it's easily removed :D
[11:33] <diplo> nice thanks, will have to get one
[11:33] <diplo> :)
[11:33] <bujji> daftykins:how much will you charge
[11:33] <daftykins> ^_^ np
[11:33] <daftykins> bujji: for what
[11:34] <bujji> daftykins:you said s3 repaired
[11:35] <daftykins> was just doing it for fun, i don't operate a suspicious looking shop to do this kinda thing paid :>
[11:35] <daftykins> diplo: one thing i've noticed is to not be too easy on sharing your success with the original owners, they may end up wanting them back at cost ;)
[11:35] <daftykins> mate didn't care about his one, now he wants to loan it to his mum
[11:35] <daftykins> ugh
[11:37] <bujji> okey
[11:37] <daftykins> (as in, i think mobile phone repairs require a dodgy shop :D )
[11:38] <bujji> :(?
[11:38] <diplo> Well ones my sisters and the other is the sister in laws
[11:38] <diplo> I guess I'll tell them I dumped them
[11:38] <diplo> :)
[11:39] <daftykins> XD
[11:45] <bujji> daftykins:xd ?
[11:45] <daftykins> this isn't your place for learning everything, bujji
[11:45] <popey> There's a nice little phone repair shop near me, it has so many flashing LEDs in the place it makes me freakout when inside :)
[11:46] <bujji> :))
[11:46] <daftykins> bah these cheap cases i bought don't fit
[11:47] <daftykins> aww Microsoft stopped the run dialogue entry 'wuapp' from working as a shortcut to windows update
[11:48] <bujji> daftykins:XD-->lol
[11:49] <daftykins> congratulations you have achieved: using a search engine
[11:49] <daftykins> lunch time
[11:49] <bujji> daftykins:urbandictionary xd
[11:51] <bujji> daftykins:bonappetit
[11:58] <bujji> daftykins:what should i do for blue screen error while installing windows 7.
[12:01] <popey> install linux
[12:04] <davmor2> bujji: put on a biohazzard suit, take the highly contagious device and place it in a biohazzard bin and never worry about it again?
[12:05] <bujji> davmor2:XD
[12:16] <shauno> kinda want a biohazard suit.  so many pranks.
[12:21] <bujji> shauno:have to pay))
[12:21] <shauno> yeah.  that's where most my evil plans go wrong
[12:23] <bujji> lol
[12:31] <davmor2> shauno: You need loads if you have evil plans those in volcano bases don't make themselves you know ;)
[12:32] <zmoylan-pi> i'd have thought volcano bases did most of the making themselves
[12:32] <bujji> bye o/
[12:33] <shauno> wait, loads of biohazard suits or loads of money?
[12:33] <bujji> loads of biohazard suits ==loads of money
[12:39] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: the cave yes but I said base, the cave is cheap the base bit isn't :P
[12:40] <shauno> I'm now picturing a volcano base decked out in ikea for budgettary reasons
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> all those lava tubes are ready made cable conduits
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> wicker furniture snaffled from a skip
[12:50] <davmor2> yeah see not so evil if you have soft furnishings from ikea
[12:51] <shauno> where there's a will there's a way :)
[12:52] <davmor2> shauno: no it's where there's a will there a bunch of vultures you used to call family ;)
[12:56] <diplo> Thought my network issues had gone :(
[12:58] <davmor2> diplo: Foolish Mortal........Your soul is mine, yours sincerely your ISP
[12:58] <zmoylan-pi> and your little dog too....
[12:59] <diplo> davmor2: Local... :/
[12:59] <diplo> Network keeps dropping just on the ubuntu box :(
[12:59] <davmor2> diplo: is this wifi or wired
[13:00] <diplo> Wired
[13:00] <diplo> Changed cables / ports etc already
[13:00] <diplo> So either software or hardware
[13:00] <davmor2> diplo: is the driver alx?
[13:01] <diplo> Guessing software as had an update friday, shut it down and started monday and that's when the issues started
[13:01] <diplo> Not sure
[13:01] <diplo> Easiest way to check network cards mod used ?
[13:02] <davmor2> diplo: lsmod and look for alx
[13:02] <diplo> No alx in there
[13:03] <davmor2> diplo: that rules out the problem I had then sorry :)  Have a look for your lan/module on google and see if there are known issues that what I did with my alx issue
[13:05] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[13:05] <bigcalm> Home VirginMedia connection has been down since last night. That's the main reason to go to the office :S
[13:06] <davmor2> bigcalm: no that is the reason you moan at virgin and they give you a week worth of internet off your next bill :)
[13:07] <bigcalm> I'll moan at them when I get home this evening
[13:07] <diplo> Disconnected again sorry
[13:08] <bigcalm> davmor2: do you have the scroll back to see when I left IRC last night?
[13:08] <davmor2> diplo: that rules out the problem I had then sorry :)  Have a look for your lan/module on google and see if there are known issues that what I did with my alx issue
[13:12] <davmor2> bigcalm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11799003/ looks like your connection is just up and down all night
[13:12] <bigcalm> davmor2: most interesting, thanks
[13:12] <davmor2> bigcalm: welcome
[13:13] <bigcalm> I wonder if VM pushed a new firmware to the superhub and messed up
[13:13] <davmor2> bigcalm: please tell me you don't actually use it in hub mode
[13:14] <bigcalm> Of course I don't
[13:14] <davmor2> bigcalm: few
[13:14] <bigcalm> Haven't used it as a hub for years
[13:15] <bigcalm> Recently put a dual port nic into my proliant microserver so that I could even move all services away from dumb switches
[13:16]  * davmor2 just never used it as a hub for more than 10 minutes, the guy fitted it tried to use it, failed switched it to modem only mode
[13:16] <popey> bigcalm: happy birthday!
[13:16] <bigcalm> popey: thank you fella :)
[13:17] <davmor2> bigcalm: oh yeah hippo birdy dude
[13:17] <bigcalm> davmor2: thanks very much
[13:39] <davmor2> popey: no irssi.org anymore
[13:39] <popey> wat?
[13:40] <foobarry> did the future arrive?
[13:40] <foobarry> http://scripts.irssi.org/
[13:40] <popey> probably under attack
[13:40] <popey> they're using cloudflare
[13:41] <davmor2> phew
[14:02] <foobarry> so firefox smooth scrolling is not smooth at all
[14:05] <daftykins> ugh the case of the hosted exchange setup where calendar entries from last year are missing
[14:05] <daftykins> how awkward
[14:41] <shauno> I think I fixed my electrics in the kitchen.  I feel so freaking manly right now
[14:42] <shauno> however, I am stood here with a fire extinguisher staring at it.  just in case
[14:44] <davmor2> foobarry: just use dillo
[14:45] <daftykins> shauno: what was up?
[14:45] <davmor2> daftykins: well the ceiling was up till the place caught fire now it's more of a carpet
[14:50] <shauno> nah, it wasn't that bad.  I got a lot of water in the electric cooker
[14:50] <shauno> but instead of the breaker tripping, the switch on the wall melted
[14:51] <shauno> so after a year of pre-made salads & microwave meals (and dominos. so much dominos) I've replaced the switch
[14:52] <shauno> tried that soylent stuff for a while too, but it takes too long to arrive
[14:54] <davmor2> shauno: well it takes a while to turn a person into green
[14:55] <shauno> on the plus side, I now own a fire extinguisher, so I can have many more adventures :)
[14:55] <daftykins> XD
[14:55] <daftykins> adventures \o/
[14:55] <daftykins> boo to cheap aluminium frame phone cases off ebay that don't fit =|
[15:08] <diddledan> shauno: that's probably a bad decision, owning a fire extinguisher, 'cos it'll encourage you to be less thoughful
[15:09] <diddledan> "who cares if it goes pearshaped. I gots firesquirter!"
[15:10] <davmor2> diddledan: why would you want to squirt fire, surely you want to squirt something that puts out the fire ;)
[15:10] <diddledan> :-p
[15:10] <diddledan> insurance purposes?
[15:14] <shauno> diddledan: wanna go to southampton next month?
[15:14] <diddledan> you over?
[15:14] <davmor2> http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/watch-brilliant-star-wars-prank-5699692 :)
[15:14] <shauno> I'll be passing through in august.  and I think you'd be a funny drunk  lol
[15:15] <diddledan> lol
[15:15] <shauno> I think it's august.  or october.  whichever's sooner
[15:16] <shauno> hm, ignore me, I had it right the first time
[15:18] <TwistedLucidity> davmor2: That's dreadful
[15:19] <davmor2> I'd be pressing the button wondering where my lightsaber was :D
[15:20] <TwistedLucidity> The stormtroopers are of no concern, they never hit anything
[15:20] <TwistedLucidity> Darth is the threat.
[15:30] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/sN1TedV.png
[15:30] <foobarry> what do you see in this pic? SFW
[15:33] <shauno> a really dirty window?
[15:34] <foobarry> not a dancing man?
[15:34] <foobarry> its on the wall, high up
[15:35] <TwistedLucidity> A wall. Stained or cracked plaster?
[15:35] <TwistedLucidity> Maybe where a bracket came off?
[15:35] <TwistedLucidity> But yes, perhaps a dancing man
[15:36] <shauno> being high up would be a pretty good argument against a dancing man
[15:40] <foobarry> its clearer in the shade
[15:40] <foobarry> sunshine is on it today
[15:40] <foobarry> its far away from brackets or anything
[15:44] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Congrats, you have a stain. Call it "Gerald"
[15:45] <foobarry> paddy dolia
[15:55] <intrbiz> I think it's customary to assume it's jesus
[16:02]  * daftykins lights up the 'emergency, religious topics' lightbulb
[16:02] <shauno> aw maaaan  *buckles laptbelt*
 What is it?
[16:04]  * bashrc_ retreats to the bunker
[16:04]  * popey turns up the voltage on the lamp
[16:06]  * popey hmms at http://www.fleetdrive-electric.com/blog/vehicle/volkswagen-golf-gte-plug-in-hybrid/
[16:07] <bigcalm> What's wrong with the Volvo?
[16:08] <popey> failed mot
[16:08] <popey> pondering whether to throw money at it or not
[16:09] <daftykins> bring it down here, no MOT ;)
[16:10] <bigcalm> popey: isn't it getting on a bit now?
[16:10] <bigcalm> Time for a fresh face
[16:14] <davmor2> popey: I can recommend a Skoda Superb as an excellent family car if that helps at all?
[16:42] <diddledan> davmor2: I tend not to trust things that try to tell you how great they are in it's name
[16:43] <diddledan> "this new skoda? it's superb!" <-- like that
[16:44] <davmor2> diddledan: but it is, it is a passat running gear and engine with a Skoda top that is almost certainly imported from the vw plant with a skoda price tag instead of a vw one what isn't there to love :)
[16:47] <diddledan> https://twitter.com/old_sound/status/615793768005042176/photo/1
[16:48] <davmor2> diddledan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIYs7oBUO3w
[16:52] <bujji> hello o/
[16:53] <davmor2> bujji: hello
[16:55] <bujji> davmor2:check pm
[18:09] <daftykins> http://news.softpedia.com/news/eu-the-end-of-roaming-charges-slated-for-june-2017-485688.shtml
[18:09] <daftykins> o0
[18:13] <mapps> great..powercut
[18:14] <mapps> sing my phones 3g;[
[18:16] <daftykins> nice
[18:16] <mapps> not really;p
[18:16] <mapps> cant even go to mcdonalds
[18:17] <daftykins> wat?
[18:42] <awilkins> No power in maccy d, no payment
[18:42] <awilkins> Or maybe he's up a tall building with no UPS and an electric lift
[18:43] <daftykins> retail places can fall back to older tech :D
[18:43] <daftykins> unless they're poorly managed
[19:19] <knightwise> evening everyone
[19:19] <popey> heya
[19:20] <knightwise> hey popey , how are you tonight
[19:24] <popey> ticket boo
[19:25] <knightwise> Working on the podcast here .. putting together shownotes
[20:10] <MartijnVdS> \o/ getting my developer edition xps13 next week
[20:10] <knightwise> MartijnVdS: ! Welcome to the club ! ! ! :)
[20:10] <knightwise> if you need any help , let me know.
[20:10] <MartijnVdS> I kind of went all-in and went for the 3200x1800 / 512GB / i7 one
[20:11] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: they have some weird broadcom wifi right?
[20:11] <knightwise> 2  sudo apt-get install -f 3  sudo apt-get update 4  sudo apt-get upgrade 5  sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid
[20:11] <knightwise>  Those are the commands you need after bootup ..  then move to bios A04
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> knightwise: My initial plan is to install A04 first, then install Debian Jessie, the 4.0 kernel from sid, and Cinnamon 2.6 from sid
[20:14] <MartijnVdS> (if it doesn't come with a04, it's being built right now, according to the dell status page)
[20:20] <intrbiz> knightwise: what is the touchpad like on the new XPS?
[20:54] <diddledan> I hear thunder
[20:55] <mapps> nice 5hr powercut
[20:55] <diddledan> I guess my internettings will be disappearing soon :-p
[20:55] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: A Sound of Thunder?
[20:55] <mapps> cashpoints down...fresh aisles at morrisons closed etc
[20:55] <mapps> and no internet
[20:55] <mapps> powercuts suck
[21:37] <diddledan> daftykins: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/30/whoa-another-pc-build/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[21:38] <diddledan> oh yes! leap seconds soon!
[22:45] <diddledan> 1 hour till the apocalypse
[22:45] <diddledan> (+15 minutes)
[22:46] <diddledan> in other words "sweet ooga mooga"
[22:53] <intrbiz> t - 7 minutes
[22:56] <diddledan> intrbiz: gmt, another hour yet
[22:56] <intrbiz> diddledan: ah, of course
[22:57] <intrbiz> diddledan: damn these time zones
[22:57] <diddledan> "DAMN YOU. DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL"
[22:57] <zmoylan-pi> well you invented them!! :-P
[22:57] <popey> ARMAGEDDON!
[22:58] <zmoylan-pi> preferred deep impact
[23:00] <diddledan> odd how you often get two movies with similar plotlines appear simultaneaously
[23:00] <zmoylan-pi> hollywood doesnt steal ideas!!
[23:03] <popey> people tout their scripts around studios, they all know what eachother is making
[23:03] <diddledan> aye
[23:03] <intrbiz> diddledan: you mean like failsafe and dr strangelove
[23:03] <popey> What I find amusing is how everyone and his dog brings out $THING for $TOPIC of $CURRENT_MOVIE
[23:04] <diddledan> I don't think I know failsafe
[23:04] <zmoylan-pi> well one had peter sellers in multiple roles and one didn't
[23:04] <popey> where this time it was dinosaurs for archeology for jurassic park
[23:04] <zmoylan-pi> you can't fight here, this is the war room!
[23:05] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: classic!
[23:05] <zmoylan-pi> when you saw the sign in the simpsons 'no riding the bomb' you knew exactly what it was referring too
[23:06] <diddledan> I miss spoof-movies. nowadays a "spoof" isn't really an homage but more a "screw you"
[23:07] <diddledan> e.g. not another teen movie and the like
[23:07] <zmoylan-pi> they could never top naked gun movies
[23:07] <diddledan> indeed
[23:07] <diddledan> and the airplane
[23:07] <zmoylan-pi> blazing saddles
[23:07] <diddledan> heck yeah!
[23:07] <diddledan> blazing saddles was genius
[23:07] <zmoylan-pi> the beans scene...
[23:08] <zmoylan-pi> i cannot watch that scene without laughing out loud no matter how i swear this time i won't
[23:09] <zmoylan-pi> and it's one of the few movies hollywood would never be able to do a remake of
[23:10] <diddledan> yeah the racial stuff just wouldn't be kosher to make now
[23:10] <zmoylan-pi> the sherriff is a n__ *bong*
[23:11] <shauno> reminds me, I read they're making a sequel to Top Gun?
[23:11] <diddledan> shauno: yup, and tom cruise is back
[23:11] <zmoylan-pi> with or without the f35 which can't dogfight? :-)
[23:11] <diddledan> pmsl: https://twitter.com/sharoorocks/status/615877478511431680/photo/1
[23:12] <diddledan> the rumour is that it's not about dogfighting
[23:14] <diddledan> this win10 upgrade is taking its sweet time - I set it going when I told daftykins about it with a link ^^^ (somewhere up there) and it's still not finished
[23:15] <diddledan> also. apple music is refusing to activate.
[23:15] <diddledan> (in itunes on my maccytosh)
[23:16] <diddledan> I think with those two lines I've seriously undermined my position in linux circles :-p
[23:16] <zmoylan-pi> maybe it'll be like pentagon wars about development of f35 :-) might be as funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXQ2lO3ieBA
[23:22] <intrbiz> diddledan: will you be using WiFi Sense in W10?
[23:28] <diddledan> lol @ the bradley
[23:28] <shauno> you're not missing much diddledan
[23:32] <zmoylan-pi> i highly recommend that movie
[23:36] <diddledan> shauno: oh?
[23:37] <shauno> it's ...
[23:37] <shauno> well, getting the UI right is usually apple's strong point.  except itunes.  what the hell itunes.
[23:38] <shauno> well, so far, 'apple music' has just made itunes' UI even more disjoint.
[23:39] <shauno> the actual service isn't bad.  but the UI is a trainwreck.  it seems to work best if you have no idea what you're looking for.  because if you're looking for something in particular, $DEITY help you
[23:40] <diddledan> hmm, I only have one $DEITY. maybe I should sign-up for a few more so that I can "$N * $DEITY help me"?
[23:41] <diddledan> surely more deities is the way to go, right?
[23:41] <shauno> more or less ;)
[23:42] <ali1234> so it's spotify then?
[23:42] <shauno> spotify still drive me nuts because they care what country I'm in
[23:42] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGkwkH-zu8c
[23:43] <diddledan> liek that ^^ :-D
[23:43] <shauno> unfortunately they think my office is in france, so I change countries several 6-10 times a week
[23:43] <diddledan> that's nuts
[23:44] <diddledan> georestrictions are so last millenia
[23:44] <shauno> oh it's not restrictions.  that's the best bit.  it works in france, it works in ireland, it just won't let you go from one to the other without kicking up a fuss
[23:45] <shauno> it has a limit to how many times you can change per month.  the limit is perfectly suitable for vacations, but not for geopip-fail
[23:46] <diddledan> how do you access when at work? i.e. via the corp net or via your cellular thingie
[23:46] <shauno> that's it, corp lan, which is proxied via the main office.  in paris.
[23:47] <diddledan> yeah that's what I thunked
[23:47] <diddledan> geo restrictions just don't seem to anticipate that people will use routes
[23:47] <diddledan> any routes.
[23:48] <shauno> my bank have got the hang of it, surprisingly enough
[23:48] <diddledan> the whole point of IP is that it isn't geographical
[23:48] <shauno> they used to freak out that I'd be buying things in france and ireland at the same time
[23:48] <diddledan> lol
[23:50] <diddledan> and with IP auctions now that there are none left for purchase means that routing tables are going to grow rather crazily and also mean that regional IP allocations are going to be impossible to quantify
[23:51] <diddledan> e.g. Virgin might sell a /24 to an american co but it's still assigned by RIPE meaning that it's still a UK/European address that just happens to route to americaland
[23:53] <diddledan> in unrelated news. Having a touchscreen on my surfacepro3 has broken me - I keep trying to touch my mbp's screen expecting it to do stuff
[23:54] <shauno> don't do that.  that's bad.
[23:54] <diddledan> how bad?
[23:55] <shauno> I'll cut your fingers off if you touch my screen
[23:55] <diddledan> "yeah, baby, touch my screen! you know you want to.."
[23:56] <diddledan> I could continue but that might risk me being kicked for non-family-friendly behaviour :-p
[23:56] <shauno> or your fingers cut off :)
[23:56] <diddledan> or that
[23:56] <diddledan> I'm not sure finger cutting is family friendly, either
[23:57] <shauno> touch my screen and we'll find out ;)