[05:38] <superfly> http://www.wired.com/2015/06/problem-putting-worlds-code-github/
[05:41] <superfly> Morning barrydk 
[05:41] <superfly> And mazal
[05:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[05:50] <superfly> Morning ThatGraemeGuy 
[05:57] <mazal> Morning superfly , ThatGraemeGuy
[05:59] <superfly> Morning Kilos 
[05:59] <Kilos> morning superfly  freezing here
[05:59] <superfly> Mmmm, much the same here 
[05:59] <Kilos> everything outside frizzed again
[05:59] <mazal> More oom
[06:00] <mazal> maaz define frizzed
[06:00] <Maaz> mazal: Friz \Friz\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Frizzed}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Frizzing}.] [Cf. F. friser to curl, crisp, frizzle, to raise the nap (on certain stuffs); prob.akin to OFries. frisle hair of the head. Cf. {Frieze} kind of cloth.] [Written also {frizz}.] 1. To curl or form into small curls, as hair, with a crisping pin; to crisp. [1913 Webster]  With her hair
[06:00] <Maaz> frizzed short up to her ears. --Pepys. [1913 Webster]  2. To form into little burs, prominen…
[06:00] <superfly> Oh, yeah, it's not physically freezing here
[06:00] <Kilos> hi mazal  barrydk  inetpro  MaNI  ThatGraemeGuy  and other lurkers
[06:00] <superfly> But not too far off. 5 degrees. 
[06:00] <Kilos> eish
[06:00] <Kilos> cold weather sucks
[06:01] <mazal> superfly: Where you again ?
[06:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> hellos
[06:01] <superfly> mazal: Cape Town 
[06:01] <mazal> Ah , ThatGraemeGuy also yes ?
[06:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh
[06:01]  * ThatGraemeGuy reads
[06:01] <Kilos> lol
[06:01] <mazal> CT
[06:01] <superfly> Yes. We actually used to work together 
[06:02] <mazal> Don't you guys have freezing wind there atm ?
[06:02] <superfly> Something like that 
[06:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> no the wind is still coming
[06:02] <mazal> Don't send any more this way please :P
[06:02] <superfly> Hahahaha
[06:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> any time from mid-July it starts properly
[06:03] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:03] <Kilos> its ThatGraemeGuy  that does it to us
[06:03] <Kilos> he doesnt like getting cold on his own
[06:04] <mazal> maaz coffee on
[06:04]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[06:04] <mazal> maaz huge
[06:04] <Maaz> mazal: Sorry...
[06:04] <mazal> maaz large
[06:04] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you mazal
[06:04] <superfly> Ai, I don't understand these finger tapping people. Swiping to type is so much easier and faster 
[06:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> my mommy always taught me to share
[06:05] <Kilos> hahaha
[06:05] <mazal> lol
[06:05] <Kilos> superfly  explain
[06:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: smartphone on-screen keyboards
[06:06] <Kilos> ah
[06:06] <superfly> Kilos: on most Android phones these days you can just swipe your finger over the letters you want and the keyboard will figure out what you're typing 
[06:07] <Kilos> built in dictionary?
[06:07] <superfly> And yet everyone still uses one or two fingers and toes each letter individually 
[06:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> voice commands ftw
[06:07] <superfly> Haha
[06:07] <superfly> Types, not toes
[06:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> OK Google, call the wife
[06:07] <Kilos> lol
[06:08] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: not so easy in the train 
[06:08] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy  what the kids say this morning
[06:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> he coughed a bit but that was at 5 instead of 1
[06:08] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for mazal!
[06:08] <Kilos> ah so it did make a change
[06:08] <mazal> maaz dankie
[06:08] <Maaz> Groot plesier mazal my vriend
[06:08] <mazal> maaz botsnack
[06:08] <Maaz> YAY someone cares about me too!
[06:09] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: maybe I should try that. Eldest has bad hay fever 
[06:10] <Kilos> superfly  did you turn off your away goodie? 
[06:10] <Kilos> you showed active all day yesterday
[06:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> http://www.russellhobbs.co.za/appliance/seasonal-winter/eco-extreme-fan-heater.aspx <-- i got that one, it has a nice analogue temperature adjustment
[06:10] <superfly> Kilos: hrm
[06:10] <superfly> I'll have to investigate 
[06:11]  * mazal go gooi some dirt
[06:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> i set it on eco mode, with the temp about 1/3 to max and with the door open a few inches that warms the room up nicely
[06:11] <ThatGraemeGuy> not hot, just comfortable compared to the rest of the house
[06:12] <Kilos> oh you got a bigger stand up one
[06:12] <ThatGraemeGuy> its not that big, maybe 30cm high or less
[06:13] <Kilos> oh i only know the ones that lie flat
[06:13] <Kilos> similar thing though i think
[06:17] <superfly> Cape Town station. Work time. Later folks 
[06:17] <Kilos> enjoy
[06:19] <mazal> Have a good day superfly
[06:45] <Squirm> Morning everyone
[06:48] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[06:52]  * Squirm yawns
[06:52] <Squirm> Maaz: Coffee on
[06:52]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[06:52] <Squirm> `How are you Kilos?
[06:52] <Kilos> good ty Squirm  and you?
[06:53] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[06:53] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[06:53] <Squirm> I'm good :)
[06:53] <Kilos> :D
[06:54] <Kilos> Webtricity  you still alive?
[06:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!
[06:56] <Kilos> Maaz  danke
[06:56] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[06:57]  * Squirm dances
[06:57] <Squirm> Kilos: what's happening these days? I feel like I've been gone for a while
[06:58] <Kilos> shame on you Squirm  you have been mia for a while
[06:58] <Kilos> i thought you fell in love
[06:58] <Squirm> But I did that almost 2 years ago :P
[06:58] <Kilos> lol
[06:59] <Kilos> normally new loves and divorces make peeps forget everything else
[07:00] <Squirm> Have just been busy I suppose
[07:00] <Kilos> ya that word covers lots, ian uses it even when he slept all day
[07:00] <mazal> Seems I must do a re-install. Might be away for a while
[07:00] <Kilos> ok
[07:01] <Kilos> why mazal  
[07:01] <mazal> Now the million dollar question
[07:01] <Kilos> whats not working
[07:01] <mazal> iso with remaster or this new thingy
[07:01] <Kilos> wait man
[07:01] <Kilos> whats wrong first
[07:01] <mazal> New pc
[07:01] <Squirm> Kilos: True. But when you're busy, sleep is to counter the busy :D
[07:01] <Kilos> ah
[07:01] <mazal> no choice :P
[07:01] <Kilos> haha Squirm  
[07:02] <mazal> l8tr guys , much l8tr , wish me luck
[07:02] <Kilos> i did a remaster sys on another drive last week so now i have a good copy of this kde spare
[07:02] <Kilos> good luck mazal  
[07:02] <Squirm> mazal: that sentence makes no sense ;)
[07:03] <mazal> Which one Squirm ?
[07:03] <Squirm> "mazal: l8tr guys , much l8tr , wish me luck"
[07:03] <Squirm> Just messing with you, cheers
[07:03] <Kilos> lol
[07:03] <mazal> I rarely make any sence Squirm :P
[07:03] <Kilos> wait mazal  
[07:03] <mazal> ja ?
[07:03] <Kilos> another one that makes no sense
[07:04] <Kilos> if its for a new pc why would it be a reinstall
[07:04] <Kilos> the one you on is still going right?
[07:04] <mazal> by re-install I mean with my iso
[07:04] <mazal> So let's call it iso install and data copy :)
[07:05] <Kilos> ok good luck then
[07:05] <mazal> cheers for now guys
[07:13] <barrydk> More almal
[07:50] <pieter2627> hi all
[07:51] <Kilos> hi pieter2627  
[07:54] <pieter2627> oh Kilos, wanted to ask. Which car has such good mileage that a trip to dbn costs R6 - can't even find a choc with enough Kj to get me across the street :P
[07:54] <Kilos> lol
[07:55] <MaNI> tesla :p
[07:55] <pieter2627> lol
[07:56] <Kilos> that was in my DKW in 1971 i think
[07:59] <Kilos> but iirc i only earned R60 a month
[08:02] <pieter2627> 'only' - if a trip to dbn cost R6 then R60 is about R7 000+ today
[08:03] <Kilos> i have no idea what such a trip costs today
[08:03] <Kilos> and the deak wasnt very fuel efficient being a 2 stroke
[08:03] <MaNI> cars were less efficient then - R6 probably = two tanks now
[08:03] <MaNI> so need to double that :p
[08:05] <pieter2627> wow
[08:06] <Kilos> 1 $ was 63 of our cents
[08:06] <MaNI> cumulative inflation makes things crazy
[08:07] <MaNI> I mean if I just look at how much say the price of a basic large pizza has changed in my lifetime
[08:07] <pieter2627> cumulative anything is crazy
[08:08] <Kilos> i bouth a 3 bedroom house is toti for 25k
[08:08] <Kilos> bought
[08:10] <MaNI> heh yeah, vacant land on the mountain side, not uncommon to see the title deeds previous price be like R15k and now it is selling for over a million
[08:10] <Kilos> yeah
[08:11] <MaNI> it makes the prospect of trying to save for a meaningful retirement somewhat scary
[08:11] <MaNI> I mean what will everything cost in another 30 years
[08:11] <Kilos> thats the thing
[08:11] <Kilos> many peeps retirement funds are worthless by the time they retire
[08:12] <Kilos> you need large savings as well
[08:16] <Kilos> endownment funds and that kinda stuff
[08:17] <MaNI> personally the only reasonable way I see is to have some kind of asset/income that increases with inflation - a rental property or company or something
[08:18] <MaNI> otherwise the amount of funds you need to keep up is massive
[08:24] <Kilos> property was always a good investmnt
[08:25] <Kilos> but i dunno how safe that is today
[08:26] <Kilos> speak to the peeps at sanlam
[08:26] <MaNI> not for making a huge profit though, but rather it's a guaranteed income thats tied to inflation, I mean it is a rather safe bet that rent will continue to be more than food, so you can always live off a rental income :p
[08:26] <Kilos> yeah
[08:27] <Kilos> buying a house and renting it out is good and someone else pays your bond for you that way
[09:00] <mazal> Up and running again
[09:44] <Kilos> better pc mazal  ?
[10:01] <Kilos> new tool or remastersys
[10:05] <mazal> Oom Kilos nope , on laptop now. Remastersys , I stay with what I know for now
[10:12] <Kilos> good
[10:37] <pieter2627> does anyone know what this dir is for - /var/lib/apt/lists/partial?
[10:39] <pieter2627> it is taking up 2.5Gb of disk space
[10:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> man apt-get
[10:41] <pieter2627> ty
[11:15] <mazal> Anybody know how to reset kwallet password ? If you don't know what it is ?
[11:16] <mazal> After I re-installed and copied back my home , kwallet password prompt keeps popping up , I have tried all my passwords but it won't go away
[11:18] <Cryterion> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22154/how-to-reset-a-password-from-kwallet
[11:20] <mazal> Thanx Cryterion
[11:21] <mazal> What does kwallet do ? I never even used it
[11:22] <Cryterion> not sure, that came up on google
[11:23] <Kilos> i think it remembers passwords or something
[11:23] <MaNI> it is kdes attempt at something like keepassx
[11:24] <mazal> Checking out wiki page of it now. Seems to be a passwords and credentials store yes
[11:36] <magespawn> good afternoon
[11:37] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[11:44] <mazal> Lo magespawn
[11:44] <mazal> Oom Kilos , the only thing that doesn't work is my battery indicator
[11:44] <mazal> It was working , and after I copied back my home it is not working
[11:44] <Kilos> mazal  fix it
[11:45] <mazal> Just say no battery found
[11:45] <Kilos> something not installed like a battery sensor thing
[11:46] <mazal> Why was it working then before home was copied back
[11:46] <mazal> IE , what in home data can break something like that
[11:46] <Kilos> lol
[11:46] <mazal> That is a system app
[11:47] <Kilos> where is your home from another laptop?
[11:47] <mazal> Was a pc , still have backup on stick
[11:48] <mazal> So when the home from pc was copied onto laptop , it broke the battery indicator. ???
[11:48] <Kilos> something in desktop home doesnt see lappy battery
[11:48] <mazal> But what is the question
[11:49] <mazal> I can't even find setting or config on that indicator
[11:50] <Kilos> look in synaptic for indicators
[11:51] <mazal> This is a panel widget
[11:51] <Kilos> right click panel and see options
[11:51] <mazal> There isn't any , it only loads the power saving options. But no config for the indicator itself
[11:52] <Kilos> wait till one of the lappy peeps answer or google lots
[11:52] <Kilos> i know niks about lappies
[11:52] <mazal> Maybe reboot is required
[11:53] <Kilos> have you done update etc
[11:53] <mazal> Yeah , but already updated as it was my newest iso
[11:53] <mazal> No updates available
[11:53] <Kilos> ai!
[11:53] <mazal> I go ask google
[11:54] <Kilos> Maaz  google ubuntu desktop /home disables battery indicator on laptop
[11:54] <Maaz> Kilos: "indicator - No battery status icon - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/68445/no-battery-status-icon :: "How to disable mouse power status in indicator-power? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/361022/how-to-disable-mouse-power-status-in-indicator-power :: "Battery indicator missing, ubuntu 12.04 - Ask Ubuntu"
[11:54] <Maaz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/148971/battery-indicator-missing-ubuntu-12-04 :: "Tips to extend battery life for lapto…
[11:54] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> ditch KDE, use XFCE
[11:56] <ThatGraemeGuy> marvel at how much faster your PC is suddenly
[11:56]  * ThatGraemeGuy runs away
[11:58] <mazal> hmm , XFCE you say. Kilos will kill me !! lol
[11:59] <mazal> Just gonna try a reboot and see if all feathers shakes itself in order
[12:04] <mazal> Ok that fixed it
[12:04] <mazal> Now I have a different problem
[12:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> the problem is still the same... KDE
[12:04]  * ThatGraemeGuy runs again
[12:05] <mazal> How do I get the wireless to connect automatically without having to put the password in everytime the machine starts up ?
[12:05] <mazal> I did slect " connect automatically " and the wi-fi password is in the connection settings
[12:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> configure it to auto-connect, it's a property of the connection somewhere
[12:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh, then i don't know :-/
[12:06] <mazal> Even with that set , it still asks for password on boot ??
[12:06] <mazal> Oom Kilos , die KDE van jou !
[12:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> try to delete the wi-fi connection and re-add it
[12:07] <mazal> K lemme try that
[12:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> this is why we don't keep old homedirs with new installations
[12:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> re-installing to fix your problem is a very Windows thing to do anyway, it's never the answer with any distro that's even half-decent
[12:08] <Cryterion> There goes his wi-fi I guess
[12:09] <mazal> Uhm ok dumb question , how do I delete it ? Can't find a delete option on the current connection
[12:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> screenshot?
[12:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> I haven't done the KDE thing in quite a while
[12:10] <mazal> There is all the configs , and disconnect and connect , but no delete
[12:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> a picture is worth a thousand words :)
[12:11] <mazal> Doing pic.......
[12:12] <mazal> What app can I paste in KDE ?
[12:12] <mazal> KILOS !!!!!!!!!
[12:12] <Kilos> what?
[12:12] <Kilos> http://pasteboard.co
[12:12] <mazal> No
[12:12] <mazal> What app can I paste print screens to ?
[12:12] <Kilos> open that and drag drop the pic
[12:12] <mazal> That can also crop
[12:13] <ThatGraemeGuy> PrtScn key might be mapped to a screenshot app
[12:13] <mazal> Nope printscreen does nothing
[12:13] <Kilos> it puts a copy in home methinks
[12:13] <mazal> How ?
[12:13] <mazal> With what app ?
[12:14] <Kilos> after you push prntscreen
[12:14] <mazal> nope
[12:15] <mazal> And ksnapshot useless cos I have to click on system tray to get wi-fi screen open , then it disapears
[12:15] <Kilos> lol
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> sudo apt-get install shutter
[12:16] <mazal> When I click on snapshot to get that back then wi-fi system tray gone again
[12:16] <Kilos> i only see gnome-screenshot
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> take a photo with your phone
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> lol
[12:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> poor man's screenshot
[12:16] <Kilos> my prntscrn button works
[12:16] <Kilos> lol
[12:16] <MaNI> ksnapshot has timer functionality
[12:17] <MaNI> amongst other things
[12:17] <MaNI> and should grab on printscreen as well
[12:17] <mazal> Kubuntu probably don't work on this laptop's fn keys :(
[12:17] <mazal> It's print screen key is a FN combo
[12:17] <MaNI> just use the 'snapshot delay' field then
[12:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> eish
[12:17] <ThatGraemeGuy> all these hoops, thanks KDE
[12:19] <MaNI> hardly kdes fault if his keys aren't set up right, that it has an extra feature that can help him anyway seems great not a hoop :p
[12:19] <Kilos> look in settings keyboard there might be something to find the screenshot button
[12:19] <mazal> Linux drivers problem that the FN key don't work
[12:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> funny, my DE has a nice shortcut on PrtScn, I didn't even need to do anything
[12:20] <ThatGraemeGuy> so yes, thanks KDE!
[12:20] <MaNI> ThatGraemeGuy, so does kde.
[12:20] <mazal> Doesn't work
[12:20] <MaNI> printscreen opens ksnapshot with the current screen grabbed (except in this case because there is some keyboard issue)
[12:21] <mazal> I did that delay now , it takes snapshot , but system tray popup is not showed in snapshot
[12:21] <MaNI> what capture mode?
[12:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> sounds like derp mode
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> must recompile KDE with the correct config options
[12:22] <MaNI> works for me
[12:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> try --derp-by-default=NoThanks and --try-to-be-cleverer-than-the-user=NEVER
[12:23] <mazal> There's no mode setting I can find on ksnapshot
[12:23] <MaNI> what version of kde are you on?
[12:23]  * ThatGraemeGuy hopes nobody is taking him seriously
[12:23] <mazal> 14.04.1
[12:24] <magespawn> lol @ ThatGraemeGuy 
[12:24] <mazal> ksnapshot itself is 0.8.2
[12:24] <MaNI> okay, well can't explain that it should grab the full screen by default and that would include any popups
[12:25] <MaNI> mine is also 0.8.2
[12:26] <MaNI> if capture mode is set to 'window under cursor' that could do it, but if you don't see a capture mode setting I don't know why that would be
[12:27] <mazal> Hang on , I found that
[12:27] <mazal> Is full screen currently
[12:34] <mazal> Finally , got  2 snapshots that worked
[12:36] <mazal> Pic 1 - system icon - config and disconnect. No delete
[12:36] <mazal> http://picpaste.com/1-p3voXfkL.png
[12:38] <mazal> Pic 2 - config setting - no delete options
[12:38] <mazal> http://picpaste.com/4-XDb3ufST.png
[12:39] <magespawn> mazal are you trying to delete the wireless connection?
[12:40] <mazal> magespawn: The original problem is that it doesn't want to keep the password. Even though it is in , I must put password in every time the laptop boots
[12:40] <mazal> So wanted to try and delete the connection and re-create
[12:40] <magespawn> ahh right
[12:40] <mazal> Got to run guys sorry
[12:41] <mazal> l8tr
[12:41] <magespawn> no worries been a while since i used kde
[12:43] <magespawn> Maaz tell mazal http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[12:43] <Maaz> magespawn: Sure, I'll tell mazal on freenode
[13:09] <mazal> magespawn, still around ?
[13:11] <mazal> maaz tell magespawn I get "url not found" on that link
[13:11] <Maaz> mazal: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[13:12] <Kilos> ai! mazal  it works here
[13:16] <mazal> maaz tell magespawn Never mind , I found a typo in the link
[13:16] <Maaz> mazal: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode
[13:17] <mazal> But will have to wait for tomorrow , I'm at home now
[13:17] <Kilos> ok
[13:18] <mazal> Don't have permission for removal for that laptop yet
[13:18] <Kilos> lol
[13:18] <mazal> I don't think I will get anyway
[13:27] <gremble> o/
[13:27] <Kilos> o/
[13:49] <Squirm> 'lo
[13:49] <Squirm> superfly: Hey
[13:50] <superfly> hi
[13:50] <superfly> ah, Kilos
[13:50] <superfly> I didn't notice Quassel running here... no wonder I'm "active"
[13:51] <magespawn> yup mazal ley me check again
[13:51] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell magespawn I get "url not found" on that link" 39 minutes and 31 seconds ago
[13:51] <Maaz> magespawn: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell magespawn Never mind , I found a typo in the link" 34 minutes and 19 seconds ago
[13:51] <magespawn> lol
[13:52] <gremble> For the next 4 weeks I don't even have to put on pants in the morning. Sometimes being a student isn't all that bad
[13:54] <Kilos> lol
[13:55] <Kilos> thats good superfly  at least nothing is broken
[14:06] <magespawn> homw timw chat later
[14:07] <magespawn> home time too
[14:17] <Squirm> superfly: check your pm when you have a gap ^^
[14:19] <inetpro> good mornings
[14:19] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[14:20] <inetpro> oh hi oom Kilos as well
[14:20] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:20] <Kilos> after thought
[14:20] <Kilos> i dont nag enough
[14:23] <gremble> nag or nap?
[14:23] <Kilos> nag
[14:23] <gremble> I don't think there is something like "enough" naps
[14:23] <Kilos> when i nag him lots he even greets in the real morning
[14:23] <gremble> Haha
[14:23] <Kilos> now he says morning in the avy to make us think he didnt forget
[15:53]  * inetpro surprised to see no loadshedding today
[15:53] <inetpro> yet
[15:54] <inetpro> maybe they'll start it before 20:00 just to spite me again
[15:54] <Kilos> lol
[16:01] <MaNI> they have to have a few days without so that people can't claim they are doing it "because they didn't get the increase" :p
[16:04] <Kilos> lol
[16:15] <gremble> They're a bunch of knobs
[16:15] <Kilos> aw grumbles i saw a link to some chicks thats a maths wiz somewhere
[16:16] <Kilos> might have even been twitter
[16:16] <gremble> Sounds like fun
[16:16] <Kilos> i dont often go there but if i see it again ill tell you
[16:17] <Kilos> you two could xyz each other
[16:18] <gremble> Haha that does sound like fun
[16:18] <gremble> :P
[16:18] <Kilos> hehe
[16:39] <gremble> Are you guys all ready for the leap second?
[16:39] <gremble> I'm hoping it brings about a new world order
[16:39] <Kilos> ai!
[17:34] <Kilos> ohi Symmetria  where you been?
[17:41] <CuttingEdge> i see the cd mirror for ubuntu i submitted, quietly went 'official'
[17:42] <Kilos> cool beans CuttingEdge  
[17:42] <CuttingEdge> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za-release
[18:01] <magespawn> good evening
[18:07] <gremble> hey magespawn 
[18:07] <magespawn> hi gremble 
[18:08] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[18:09] <magespawn> hey hey
[18:11] <magespawn> just bought my first shoe polish in about 20 years
[18:11] <gremble> Are you going to teach your kids how to shine your shoes for you?
[18:12] <Kilos> lol
[18:12] <magespawn> might not be a bad idea
[18:12] <magespawn> they do not really were shoes at the moment though
[18:12] <Kilos> wear
[18:12] <gremble> That is why I said your shoes. Not theirs
[18:14] <magespawn> indeed, it will be needed next year when my son goes to high school
[18:14] <magespawn> ty Kilos 
[18:14] <Kilos> for?
[18:14] <Kilos> oh
[18:14] <Kilos> yw
[18:14] <gremble> In my first week of high school we had to shine the matrics' shoes almost daily
[18:15] <Kilos> fly too busy
[18:15] <gremble> The people that build django are very clever
[18:16] <gremble> built
[18:17] <magespawn> that is a python framework, right?
[18:17] <gremble> Yup
[18:18] <gremble> A friend of mine wants to build an app but he cannot code. So I am partnering up with him.
[18:18] <Kilos> lol says he who hated coding
[18:19] <Kilos> but you are good at it so carry on
[18:19] <gremble> I do dislike it quite a lot. But for some reason I am not too shit at it. So now I just go with it
[18:19] <Kilos> good
[18:20] <Kilos> the more you do the more you will like it
[18:20] <gremble> Besides, it feels nice to build something. I don't have the skills necessary or the place to build something with my hands, so I guess this is what I will make do
[18:20] <Kilos> good
[18:30] <magespawn> okay shoes polished
[18:30] <Kilos> lol
[18:30] <inetpro> CuttingEdge: well done!
[18:32] <magespawn> like i said about the first time in almost 20 years
[18:32] <Kilos> well then you have had a good break magespawn  
[18:33] <magespawn> indeed
[18:33] <Kilos> so whats with the shoes that need polish now?
[18:33] <Kilos> peeps only wear them to church and interviews
[18:34] <Kilos> ohi superfly  it be fixed now
[18:34] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:35] <inetpro> launchpad buggy this evening?
[18:35] <Kilos> Maaz  hmm...
[18:35] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[18:35] <mazal> lol
[18:35] <Kilos> inetpro  im giving 3 weeks notice
[18:35] <inetpro> got message "Uh oh! Something has gone wrong..." 
[18:36] <Kilos> can you please arrange a date and time to chair an africa meeting
[18:36] <inetpro> Kilos: 3 weeks notice?
[18:36] <inetpro> ai!
[18:36] <Kilos> preferable a day you dont load shed
[18:36] <Kilos> no ai! me man , you a good chair
[18:37] <Kilos> superfly  can you also try make it to the first africa meet please
[18:37] <Kilos> you guys choose a date
[18:37] <Kilos> or a day that suits you that is then i can squeeze others to fall in
[18:38] <Kilos> inetpro  where did you get that message from?
[18:38] <superfly> almost any day, after 20:30 SAST
[18:39] <Kilos> great ty then we can follow pros choice
[18:39] <inetpro> Kilos: simply going to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:39] <Kilos> works fine inetpro  
[18:39] <Kilos> get a decent browser
[18:39] <inetpro> but it's intermittent 
[18:39] <Kilos> hee hee
[18:39] <Kilos> i been waiting to say that
[18:40] <Kilos> how intermittent
[18:40] <Kilos> im there first time with 2 browsers
[18:41] <inetpro> Kilos: don't worry about it
[18:41] <Kilos> haha
[18:42] <inetpro> works now... I'm not the only one who noticed it... others at #launchpad also got the error
[18:42] <magespawn> Kilos: i have only recently started wearing them
[18:42] <CuttingEdge> inetpro: i saw some random issue earlier too
[18:43] <Kilos> no man inetpro  dont find other excuses now
[18:43] <inetpro> Kilos: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/06/30/%23launchpad.html#t17:45
[18:44] <Kilos> hahaha 
[18:44] <Kilos> i was just trying to rag you about your fox man
[18:45] <inetpro> Kilos: the fox has very little to do with it
[18:45] <Kilos> oh yes it has
[18:45] <Kilos> same as my opera battles at times
[18:46] <Kilos> gotta blaim something
[18:46] <Kilos> blame
[18:46] <inetpro> Kilos: you want a screenshot of chromium with the error?
[18:46] <Kilos> nono
[18:46] <Kilos> you use chr4omium too
[18:46] <Kilos> sigh
[18:46] <gremble> Kilos: its blame
[18:46] <gremble> :P
[18:47] <gremble> Browsers are in such a shit place right now :(
[18:47] <Kilos> im using epiphany and midori quite a bit as well now
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: when something fails I try to find the cause through testing different scenarios
[18:47] <Kilos> and poor opera open daily to over 20 links
[18:48] <Kilos> yes thats why i always say inetpro  fixit
[18:48] <Kilos> i may be stupid but im not a fool
[18:55] <inetpro> Kilos: that doesn't mean that my tests are foolproof
[18:55] <Kilos> yes but you dont stop till its fixed
[18:56] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:57] <Kilos> im gonna try my first 3g telkom bundle in the morning
[19:04] <Squirm> Evening
[19:04] <Kilos> hi Squirm  
[19:06] <magespawn> Kilos: checking the speed?
[19:07] <Kilos> eeek slow tonight
[19:07] <Kilos> http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4471070500
[19:08] <Kilos> will tweet them again tomorrow
[19:08] <Kilos> haha
[19:09] <Kilos> oh inetpro  you made that launchpad africa thing lekker
[19:09] <Kilos> one can even add peeps
[19:09] <Kilos> havent found how to add them to the mailing list yet
[19:26] <mazal> Night all
[19:26] <Kilos> night all too from me
[19:26] <Kilos> sleep tight
[20:38] <magespawn> bedtime for me, good night all