=== rusbus is now known as Russ_|Away === Guest57289 is now known as Webtricity [05:38] http://www.wired.com/2015/06/problem-putting-worlds-code-github/ [05:41] Morning barrydk [05:41] And mazal [05:45] mornings [05:50] Morning ThatGraemeGuy [05:57] Morning superfly , ThatGraemeGuy [05:59] Morning Kilos [05:59] morning superfly freezing here [05:59] Mmmm, much the same here [05:59] everything outside frizzed again [05:59] More oom [06:00] maaz define frizzed [06:00] mazal: Friz \Friz\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. {Frizzed}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Frizzing}.] [Cf. F. friser to curl, crisp, frizzle, to raise the nap (on certain stuffs); prob.akin to OFries. frisle hair of the head. Cf. {Frieze} kind of cloth.] [Written also {frizz}.] 1. To curl or form into small curls, as hair, with a crisping pin; to crisp. [1913 Webster] With her hair [06:00] frizzed short up to her ears. --Pepys. [1913 Webster] 2. To form into little burs, prominen… [06:00] Oh, yeah, it's not physically freezing here [06:00] hi mazal barrydk inetpro MaNI ThatGraemeGuy and other lurkers [06:00] But not too far off. 5 degrees. [06:00] eish [06:00] cold weather sucks [06:01] superfly: Where you again ? [06:01] hellos [06:01] mazal: Cape Town [06:01] Ah , ThatGraemeGuy also yes ? [06:01] eh [06:01] * ThatGraemeGuy reads [06:01] lol [06:01] CT [06:01] Yes. We actually used to work together [06:02] Don't you guys have freezing wind there atm ? [06:02] Something like that [06:02] no the wind is still coming [06:02] Don't send any more this way please :P [06:02] Hahahaha [06:03] any time from mid-July it starts properly [06:03] hahaha [06:03] its ThatGraemeGuy that does it to us [06:03] he doesnt like getting cold on his own [06:04] maaz coffee on [06:04] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [06:04] maaz huge [06:04] mazal: Sorry... [06:04] maaz large [06:04] In a beer mug just for you mazal [06:04] Ai, I don't understand these finger tapping people. Swiping to type is so much easier and faster [06:04] my mommy always taught me to share [06:05] hahaha [06:05] lol [06:05] superfly explain [06:05] Kilos: smartphone on-screen keyboards [06:06] ah [06:06] Kilos: on most Android phones these days you can just swipe your finger over the letters you want and the keyboard will figure out what you're typing [06:07] built in dictionary? [06:07] And yet everyone still uses one or two fingers and toes each letter individually [06:07] voice commands ftw [06:07] Haha [06:07] Types, not toes [06:07] OK Google, call the wife [06:07] lol [06:08] ThatGraemeGuy: not so easy in the train [06:08] ThatGraemeGuy what the kids say this morning [06:08] he coughed a bit but that was at 5 instead of 1 [06:08] Coffee's ready for mazal! [06:08] ah so it did make a change [06:08] maaz dankie [06:08] Groot plesier mazal my vriend [06:08] maaz botsnack [06:08] YAY someone cares about me too! [06:09] ThatGraemeGuy: maybe I should try that. Eldest has bad hay fever [06:10] superfly did you turn off your away goodie? [06:10] you showed active all day yesterday [06:10] http://www.russellhobbs.co.za/appliance/seasonal-winter/eco-extreme-fan-heater.aspx <-- i got that one, it has a nice analogue temperature adjustment [06:10] Kilos: hrm [06:10] I'll have to investigate [06:11] * mazal go gooi some dirt [06:11] i set it on eco mode, with the temp about 1/3 to max and with the door open a few inches that warms the room up nicely [06:11] not hot, just comfortable compared to the rest of the house [06:12] oh you got a bigger stand up one [06:12] its not that big, maybe 30cm high or less [06:13] oh i only know the ones that lie flat [06:13] similar thing though i think [06:17] Cape Town station. Work time. Later folks [06:17] enjoy [06:19] Have a good day superfly [06:45] Morning everyone [06:48] hi Squirm [06:52] * Squirm yawns [06:52] Maaz: Coffee on [06:52] * Maaz washes some mugs [06:52] `How are you Kilos? [06:52] good ty Squirm and you? [06:53] Maaz coffee please [06:53] Kilos: Alrighty [06:53] I'm good :) [06:53] :D [06:54] Webtricity you still alive? [06:56] Coffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos! [06:56] Maaz danke [06:56] Bitteschön [06:57] * Squirm dances [06:57] Kilos: what's happening these days? I feel like I've been gone for a while [06:58] shame on you Squirm you have been mia for a while [06:58] i thought you fell in love [06:58] But I did that almost 2 years ago :P [06:58] lol [06:59] normally new loves and divorces make peeps forget everything else [07:00] Have just been busy I suppose [07:00] ya that word covers lots, ian uses it even when he slept all day [07:00] Seems I must do a re-install. Might be away for a while [07:00] ok [07:01] why mazal [07:01] Now the million dollar question [07:01] whats not working [07:01] iso with remaster or this new thingy [07:01] wait man [07:01] whats wrong first [07:01] New pc [07:01] Kilos: True. But when you're busy, sleep is to counter the busy :D [07:01] ah [07:01] no choice :P [07:01] haha Squirm [07:02] l8tr guys , much l8tr , wish me luck [07:02] i did a remaster sys on another drive last week so now i have a good copy of this kde spare [07:02] good luck mazal [07:02] mazal: that sentence makes no sense ;) [07:03] Which one Squirm ? [07:03] "mazal: l8tr guys , much l8tr , wish me luck" [07:03] Just messing with you, cheers [07:03] lol [07:03] I rarely make any sence Squirm :P [07:03] wait mazal [07:03] ja ? [07:03] another one that makes no sense [07:04] if its for a new pc why would it be a reinstall [07:04] the one you on is still going right? [07:04] by re-install I mean with my iso [07:04] So let's call it iso install and data copy :) [07:05] ok good luck then [07:05] cheers for now guys [07:13] More almal [07:50] hi all [07:51] hi pieter2627 [07:54] oh Kilos, wanted to ask. Which car has such good mileage that a trip to dbn costs R6 - can't even find a choc with enough Kj to get me across the street :P [07:54] lol [07:55] tesla :p [07:55] lol [07:56] that was in my DKW in 1971 i think [07:59] but iirc i only earned R60 a month [08:02] 'only' - if a trip to dbn cost R6 then R60 is about R7 000+ today [08:03] i have no idea what such a trip costs today [08:03] and the deak wasnt very fuel efficient being a 2 stroke [08:03] cars were less efficient then - R6 probably = two tanks now [08:03] so need to double that :p [08:05] wow [08:06] 1 $ was 63 of our cents [08:06] cumulative inflation makes things crazy [08:07] I mean if I just look at how much say the price of a basic large pizza has changed in my lifetime [08:07] cumulative anything is crazy [08:08] i bouth a 3 bedroom house is toti for 25k [08:08] bought === Cryterion is now known as Cryterion`hiding [08:10] heh yeah, vacant land on the mountain side, not uncommon to see the title deeds previous price be like R15k and now it is selling for over a million [08:10] yeah [08:11] it makes the prospect of trying to save for a meaningful retirement somewhat scary [08:11] I mean what will everything cost in another 30 years [08:11] thats the thing [08:11] many peeps retirement funds are worthless by the time they retire [08:12] you need large savings as well [08:16] endownment funds and that kinda stuff [08:17] personally the only reasonable way I see is to have some kind of asset/income that increases with inflation - a rental property or company or something [08:18] otherwise the amount of funds you need to keep up is massive [08:24] property was always a good investmnt [08:25] but i dunno how safe that is today [08:26] speak to the peeps at sanlam [08:26] not for making a huge profit though, but rather it's a guaranteed income thats tied to inflation, I mean it is a rather safe bet that rent will continue to be more than food, so you can always live off a rental income :p [08:26] yeah [08:27] buying a house and renting it out is good and someone else pays your bond for you that way [09:00] Up and running again [09:44] better pc mazal ? [10:01] new tool or remastersys [10:05] Oom Kilos nope , on laptop now. Remastersys , I stay with what I know for now [10:12] good [10:37] does anyone know what this dir is for - /var/lib/apt/lists/partial? [10:39] it is taking up 2.5Gb of disk space [10:39] man apt-get [10:41] ty [11:15] Anybody know how to reset kwallet password ? If you don't know what it is ? [11:16] After I re-installed and copied back my home , kwallet password prompt keeps popping up , I have tried all my passwords but it won't go away === Cryterion`hiding is now known as Cryterion [11:18] http://askubuntu.com/questions/22154/how-to-reset-a-password-from-kwallet [11:20] Thanx Cryterion [11:21] What does kwallet do ? I never even used it [11:22] not sure, that came up on google [11:23] i think it remembers passwords or something [11:23] it is kdes attempt at something like keepassx [11:24] Checking out wiki page of it now. Seems to be a passwords and credentials store yes [11:36] good afternoon [11:37] hi magespawn [11:44] Lo magespawn [11:44] Oom Kilos , the only thing that doesn't work is my battery indicator [11:44] It was working , and after I copied back my home it is not working [11:44] mazal fix it [11:45] Just say no battery found [11:45] something not installed like a battery sensor thing [11:46] Why was it working then before home was copied back [11:46] IE , what in home data can break something like that [11:46] lol [11:46] That is a system app [11:47] where is your home from another laptop? [11:47] Was a pc , still have backup on stick [11:48] So when the home from pc was copied onto laptop , it broke the battery indicator. ??? [11:48] something in desktop home doesnt see lappy battery [11:48] But what is the question [11:49] I can't even find setting or config on that indicator [11:50] look in synaptic for indicators [11:51] This is a panel widget [11:51] right click panel and see options [11:51] There isn't any , it only loads the power saving options. But no config for the indicator itself [11:52] wait till one of the lappy peeps answer or google lots [11:52] i know niks about lappies [11:52] Maybe reboot is required [11:53] have you done update etc [11:53] Yeah , but already updated as it was my newest iso [11:53] No updates available [11:53] ai! [11:53] I go ask google [11:54] Maaz google ubuntu desktop /home disables battery indicator on laptop [11:54] Kilos: "indicator - No battery status icon - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/68445/no-battery-status-icon :: "How to disable mouse power status in indicator-power? - Ask Ubuntu" http://askubuntu.com/questions/361022/how-to-disable-mouse-power-status-in-indicator-power :: "Battery indicator missing, ubuntu 12.04 - Ask Ubuntu" [11:54] http://askubuntu.com/questions/148971/battery-indicator-missing-ubuntu-12-04 :: "Tips to extend battery life for lapto… [11:54] hmm... [11:56] ditch KDE, use XFCE [11:56] marvel at how much faster your PC is suddenly [11:56] * ThatGraemeGuy runs away [11:58] hmm , XFCE you say. Kilos will kill me !! lol [11:59] Just gonna try a reboot and see if all feathers shakes itself in order [12:04] Ok that fixed it [12:04] Now I have a different problem [12:04] the problem is still the same... KDE [12:04] * ThatGraemeGuy runs again [12:05] How do I get the wireless to connect automatically without having to put the password in everytime the machine starts up ? [12:05] I did slect " connect automatically " and the wi-fi password is in the connection settings [12:05] configure it to auto-connect, it's a property of the connection somewhere [12:05] oh, then i don't know :-/ [12:06] Even with that set , it still asks for password on boot ?? [12:06] Oom Kilos , die KDE van jou ! [12:06] try to delete the wi-fi connection and re-add it [12:07] K lemme try that [12:07] this is why we don't keep old homedirs with new installations [12:08] re-installing to fix your problem is a very Windows thing to do anyway, it's never the answer with any distro that's even half-decent [12:08] There goes his wi-fi I guess [12:09] Uhm ok dumb question , how do I delete it ? Can't find a delete option on the current connection [12:09] screenshot? [12:09] I haven't done the KDE thing in quite a while [12:10] There is all the configs , and disconnect and connect , but no delete [12:10] a picture is worth a thousand words :) [12:11] Doing pic....... [12:12] What app can I paste in KDE ? [12:12] KILOS !!!!!!!!! [12:12] what? [12:12] http://pasteboard.co [12:12] No [12:12] What app can I paste print screens to ? [12:12] open that and drag drop the pic [12:12] That can also crop [12:13] PrtScn key might be mapped to a screenshot app [12:13] Nope printscreen does nothing [12:13] it puts a copy in home methinks [12:13] How ? [12:13] With what app ? [12:14] after you push prntscreen [12:14] nope [12:15] And ksnapshot useless cos I have to click on system tray to get wi-fi screen open , then it disapears [12:15] lol [12:16] sudo apt-get install shutter [12:16] When I click on snapshot to get that back then wi-fi system tray gone again [12:16] i only see gnome-screenshot [12:16] take a photo with your phone [12:16] lol [12:16] poor man's screenshot [12:16] my prntscrn button works [12:16] lol [12:16] ksnapshot has timer functionality [12:17] amongst other things [12:17] and should grab on printscreen as well [12:17] Kubuntu probably don't work on this laptop's fn keys :( [12:17] It's print screen key is a FN combo [12:17] just use the 'snapshot delay' field then [12:17] eish [12:17] all these hoops, thanks KDE [12:19] hardly kdes fault if his keys aren't set up right, that it has an extra feature that can help him anyway seems great not a hoop :p [12:19] look in settings keyboard there might be something to find the screenshot button [12:19] Linux drivers problem that the FN key don't work [12:20] funny, my DE has a nice shortcut on PrtScn, I didn't even need to do anything [12:20] so yes, thanks KDE! [12:20] ThatGraemeGuy, so does kde. [12:20] Doesn't work [12:20] printscreen opens ksnapshot with the current screen grabbed (except in this case because there is some keyboard issue) [12:21] I did that delay now , it takes snapshot , but system tray popup is not showed in snapshot [12:21] what capture mode? [12:21] sounds like derp mode [12:22] must recompile KDE with the correct config options [12:22] works for me [12:22] try --derp-by-default=NoThanks and --try-to-be-cleverer-than-the-user=NEVER [12:23] There's no mode setting I can find on ksnapshot [12:23] what version of kde are you on? [12:23] * ThatGraemeGuy hopes nobody is taking him seriously [12:23] 14.04.1 [12:24] lol @ ThatGraemeGuy [12:24] ksnapshot itself is 0.8.2 [12:24] okay, well can't explain that it should grab the full screen by default and that would include any popups [12:25] mine is also 0.8.2 [12:26] if capture mode is set to 'window under cursor' that could do it, but if you don't see a capture mode setting I don't know why that would be [12:27] Hang on , I found that [12:27] Is full screen currently === Cryterion_ is now known as Cryterion [12:34] Finally , got 2 snapshots that worked [12:36] Pic 1 - system icon - config and disconnect. No delete [12:36] http://picpaste.com/1-p3voXfkL.png [12:38] Pic 2 - config setting - no delete options [12:38] http://picpaste.com/4-XDb3ufST.png [12:39] mazal are you trying to delete the wireless connection? [12:40] magespawn: The original problem is that it doesn't want to keep the password. Even though it is in , I must put password in every time the laptop boots [12:40] So wanted to try and delete the connection and re-create [12:40] ahh right [12:40] Got to run guys sorry [12:41] l8tr [12:41] no worries been a while since i used kde [12:43] Maaz tell mazal http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html [12:43] magespawn: Sure, I'll tell mazal on freenode [13:09] magespawn, still around ? [13:11] maaz tell magespawn I get "url not found" on that link [13:11] mazal: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode [13:12] ai! mazal it works here [13:16] maaz tell magespawn Never mind , I found a typo in the link [13:16] mazal: Okay, I'll tell magespawn on freenode [13:17] But will have to wait for tomorrow , I'm at home now [13:17] ok [13:18] Don't have permission for removal for that laptop yet [13:18] lol [13:18] I don't think I will get anyway [13:27] o/ [13:27] o/ [13:49] 'lo [13:49] superfly: Hey [13:50] hi [13:50] ah, Kilos [13:50] I didn't notice Quassel running here... no wonder I'm "active" [13:51] yup mazal ley me check again [13:51] magespawn: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell magespawn I get "url not found" on that link" 39 minutes and 31 seconds ago [13:51] magespawn: By the way, mazal on freenode told me "tell magespawn Never mind , I found a typo in the link" 34 minutes and 19 seconds ago [13:51] lol [13:52] For the next 4 weeks I don't even have to put on pants in the morning. Sometimes being a student isn't all that bad [13:54] lol [13:55] thats good superfly at least nothing is broken [14:06] homw timw chat later [14:07] home time too [14:17] superfly: check your pm when you have a gap ^^ [14:19] good mornings [14:19] hi inetpro [14:20] oh hi oom Kilos as well [14:20] hahaha [14:20] after thought [14:20] i dont nag enough [14:23] nag or nap? [14:23] nag [14:23] I don't think there is something like "enough" naps [14:23] when i nag him lots he even greets in the real morning [14:23] Haha [14:23] now he says morning in the avy to make us think he didnt forget [15:53] * inetpro surprised to see no loadshedding today [15:53] yet [15:54] maybe they'll start it before 20:00 just to spite me again [15:54] lol [16:01] they have to have a few days without so that people can't claim they are doing it "because they didn't get the increase" :p [16:04] lol [16:15] They're a bunch of knobs [16:15] aw grumbles i saw a link to some chicks thats a maths wiz somewhere [16:16] might have even been twitter [16:16] Sounds like fun [16:16] i dont often go there but if i see it again ill tell you [16:17] you two could xyz each other [16:18] Haha that does sound like fun [16:18] :P [16:18] hehe [16:39] Are you guys all ready for the leap second? [16:39] I'm hoping it brings about a new world order [16:39] ai! [17:34] ohi Symmetria where you been? [17:41] i see the cd mirror for ubuntu i submitted, quietly went 'official' [17:42] cool beans CuttingEdge [17:42] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.mirror.neology.co.za-release [18:01] good evening [18:07] hey magespawn [18:07] hi gremble [18:08] hi magespawn [18:09] hey hey [18:11] just bought my first shoe polish in about 20 years [18:11] Are you going to teach your kids how to shine your shoes for you? [18:12] lol [18:12] might not be a bad idea [18:12] they do not really were shoes at the moment though [18:12] wear [18:12] That is why I said your shoes. Not theirs [18:14] indeed, it will be needed next year when my son goes to high school [18:14] ty Kilos [18:14] for? [18:14] oh [18:14] yw [18:14] In my first week of high school we had to shine the matrics' shoes almost daily [18:15] fly too busy [18:15] The people that build django are very clever [18:16] built [18:17] that is a python framework, right? [18:17] Yup [18:18]