[00:00] <ahoneybun> darn I don't have power to do it
[00:01] <ahoneybun> not the promote one
[00:01] <ahoneybun> but the main one
[00:01] <clivejo> only Lord Riddell?
[00:01] <ahoneybun> did you use your IRC nick?
[00:01] <ahoneybun> as the username?
[00:02] <clivejo> yup
[00:02] <ahoneybun> I added you to this: https://trello.com/b/knlSk3FO/15-10
[00:03] <clivejo> ah yes
[00:03] <ahoneybun> I would think the KC have admin access to the other other
[00:03] <ahoneybun> *other one
[00:03] <ahoneybun> https://trello.com/b/3Fo1KXoN/kubuntu-promotion
[00:04] <clivejo> so how does this work?
[00:06] <ahoneybun> make comments on cards, makes cards for tasks
[00:07] <ahoneybun> put yourself on those tasks :)
[00:11] <clivejo> Id like more details on this one - https://trello.com/c/m1dNlX6a/28-make-builds-of-kdepim-for-kolab-dudes
[00:11] <kubotu> [15.10 :: To Do :: make builds of kdepim for kolab dudes ++ ]
[00:11] <clivejo> but it seems to be a debian request
[00:15] <clivejo> sgclark: does dh_install throw not installed errors even when you include the file in not-installed?
[00:15] <sgclark> clivejo: if done correctly it shouldn't, however, I have seen it not behave
[00:16] <clivejo> Im watching a build on LP and its throwing not installed errors, but there are in my local not-installed file
[00:17] <sgclark> so that is my very unhelpful response
[00:18] <clivejo> fingers crossed its just LP being noisy
[00:18] <sgclark> clivejo: and you put ./ in front? not-installed has a bit different format than install files
[00:18] <clivejo> yeah
[00:19] <sgclark> ok
[00:19] <clivejo> that was a hard lesson that baffled mew for ages
[00:28] <clivejo> yippeee
[00:28] <clivejo> anyone on wily wanna test calligra 2.9.5?
[05:15] <ahoneybun> Riddell: do you have a progress reports of our interns?
[05:54] <ovidiu-florin> kubotu: ping clivejo
[05:54] <kubotu> incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help ping'
[05:55] <ovidiu-florin> can I get kubotu to let me know when someone comes online?
[05:55] <ovidiu-florin> kubotu: le me know when clivejo is online
[05:56]  * ovidiu-florin hopes kubotu has super cow powers
[06:00] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: use memoserv
[06:01] <ovidiu-florin> kubotu: help memoserv
[06:01] <kubotu> no help for topic memoserv
[06:02] <sitter> ovidiu-florin: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#memoserv
[06:03] <ahoneybun> IRC clients can do that as well
[06:04] <ovidiu-florin> sitter: thank you
[07:18] <Riddell> ahoneybun: interns?
[07:49] <valorie> perhaps he means gsoc
[07:56] <ovidiu-florin> yes, that's what he meant
[09:02] <sick_rimmit> Anyone know why Kmail won't show my Inbox contents, but does show all the sub folders ? it's an IMAP connnection. The same on every one of my Kubuntu machines
[09:03] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:04] <sick_rimmit> Morning lordievader
[09:07] <lordievader> Hey sick_rimmit, how are you?
[09:27] <clivejo> Riddell: calligra 2.9,5 in in my PPA, would you test it for me?
[09:34] <Riddell> clivejo: ooh lovely
[09:35] <clivejo> my problem was symlinks
[09:35] <clivejo> I had installed the two symlinks, but didnt install the actual files
[09:36] <clivejo> liblibglobal.so.14-->liblibglobal.so.14.0.0
[09:36] <clivejo> Riddell: why is this done?
[09:37] <Riddell> libraries have faffy rules which keeps them stable for the applications which use them
[09:38] <clivejo> I changed the watch file in this one too
[09:38] <Riddell> so they get an soversion to say this is an ABI which is not going to have stuff removed
[09:39] <Riddell> the actual library file will be so.14.0.0 but the applications will look for the .so.14 symlink
[09:39] <Riddell> and a newer version which still has all the old symbols in it can be .so.14.0.1
[09:40] <clivejo> Riddell: I have signed up with trello, will you add me?
[09:40] <clivejo> also, have you more details on this card - https://trello.com/c/m1dNlX6a/28-make-builds-of-kdepim-for-kolab-dudes
[09:40] <kubotu> [15.10 :: To Do :: make builds of kdepim for kolab dudes ++ ]
[09:47] <Riddell> clivejo: you're in!
[09:48] <clivejo> thanks Lord Riddell ;)
[09:48] <BluesKaj> 'Morning  all
[09:48] <clivejo> morning BluesKaj
[09:49] <BluesKaj> hey clivejo
[09:49] <clivejo> BluesKaj: fancy testing calligra 2.9.5 on wily for me?
[09:51] <BluesKaj> I'll have to reboot , on debian
[09:51] <BluesKaj> atm
[09:51] <clivejo> no worries
[09:52] <BluesKaj> enjoying the de\sktop the way I like it on kde 4.1 
[09:53] <BluesKaj> Idon't use office suites much anyway
[09:54] <soee> just orderd ssd for my laptop :-)
[09:54] <soee> as a workaround for a slow booting time after switch to systemd -.-
[09:56] <BluesKaj> soee, what capacity?
[09:57] <BluesKaj> thinking of doing the dame
[09:57] <BluesKaj> same
[09:57] <soee> BluesKaj: 128 GB, i need it only for mys system
[09:57] <clivejo> LOL @ work around
[09:57] <soee> *system  + main apps
[09:58] <BluesKaj> 128 is plenty for an OS plus apps
[10:01] <soee> BluesKaj: http://www.x-kom.pl/p/179652-dysk-ssd-crucial-128gb-2-5-sata-ssd-m550.html
[10:04] <BluesKaj> ok and for our english readers http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148790
[10:05] <vip> soee: try mx200
[10:05] <vip> m550 is bugged
[10:07] <BluesKaj> those are Canadain dollars btw, so it would be around 20% less in the states
[10:08] <BluesKaj> vip. bugged ?
[10:08] <BluesKaj> or buggy
[10:21] <soee> vip: what is wrong with them ?
[10:21] <soee> friend of mine is using it some time already and doesn'y have any problems
[10:21] <soee> anyway it has 3years warranty
[11:00] <ovidiu-florin> sick_rimmit: still around?
[11:00] <ovidiu-florin> have you solved the KMail issue?
[11:01] <ovidiu-florin> if not, right click the Inbox folder, and check both local and server subscriptions, make sure that inbox is checked in both
[12:21] <Riddell> clivejo: do you remember why you removed libwps-0.4.diff from calligra?
[12:22] <vip> soee: i don't know exactly, friend of mine said so 
[12:22] <vip> soee: if you're unsure, try o google for bugs for that drive
[12:30] <clivejo> Riddell: I think it was cause the build didnt appear to be building the required files
[12:31] <clivejo> but I noticed there was still data files for wps stuff
[12:31] <clivejo> icons etc
[12:36] <clivejo> Im guessing thats an important import/export library !
[12:38] <clivejo> I guess I assumed it had been moved to a common package
[12:41] <yossarianuk> hi - is the PPA for 15.04 going to include plasma 5.3.2 ?
[12:41] <soee> vip: to late, it is ordered :)
[12:42] <soee> yossarianuk: after it is released for WIly it will be probably backported if some dev finds time to do it :)
[12:42] <yossarianuk> cool - there are not too many changes anyway by looks of things.
[12:43] <soee> shutdown fixed :)_
[12:48] <yossarianuk> hmm - i usually just use sudo poweroff....
[12:48] <yossarianuk> plasma5 is better in more or less every way  - its not quite as stable 'yet' as 4.x 
[12:54] <vip> soee: hope it will be fine
[13:12] <yossarianuk> What is the end result regarding Riddell BTW - he is still working on Kubuntu I assume?
[13:27] <Riddell> yossarianuk: sure I'm still here
[13:30] <BluesKaj> still not plasma 5/KF5 fan . too many of ny favourite features have been dumped ...taking a long look ar debian, again at least plasma5 is still optional and not defualt 
[13:30] <soee> :)
[13:30] <yossarianuk> Riddell: good stuff ! is all that now 'blown over' ?
[13:31] <soee> Plasma 5.4 = activities fixed, privacy settings fixed etc. etc. what more we want ? :D
[13:31] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: like what ? The main thing missing for me is the weather......
[13:31] <Riddell> not really, the CC still throw occasional insults at me, team morale is very low
[13:32] <Riddell> the CC have given us no reason to want to continue working on the project
[13:32] <yossarianuk> Riddell: but you are to stay as leader (in a non leader way)
[13:32] <BluesKaj> no history in krunner, no separate wallpapers for VDs amongst other things , yossarianuk
[13:33] <soee> BluesKaj: VD wallpapers are gone for good you have to live with it :)
[13:33] <soee> just use Activities :)
[13:34] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: What do you mean VD desktops ? you can have different backgrounds on different displays/workspaces ?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> soee, why , i'll just stay with debian or kubuntu 14.10 
[13:34] <soee> :-)
[13:34] <yossarianuk> kubuntu 14.10 - EOL very soon
[13:35] <Riddell> yossarianuk: I can't stop people following me, I'm amazed the CC thinks this is how community works
[13:35] <BluesKaj> activities is pita , it's clunky and it doesn't do what I want
[13:37] <soee> doesn't do what ?
[13:41] <yossarianuk> riddell: I guess I just wanted to hear you were still working on the project... Glad you are - ' dont let the buggers drag you down.'
[13:41] <Riddell> I'll get wily out at least
[13:41] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: krunner history seems to work (at least on 5.3.1)
[13:42] <yossarianuk> e.g - ALT + F2 - type something - it finds a document with string in.
[13:43] <yossarianuk> Riddell: Glad to hear - after you will still work on KDE ?  Im sure debian would love to have you (although that may be slightly more conservative..)
[16:02] <Riddell> clivejo!
[16:02] <Riddell> did you survive?
[16:20] <ahoneybun> hey all
[16:20] <ahoneybun> Riddell: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HnooSpzP9p9cvql8GEQe7J-A1rNLq8qpRs_cH_gaZIk/edit?pli=1#gid=0
[16:25] <Riddell> ahoneybun: ooh CDs :)
[16:25] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I don't understand that spreadsheet
[16:25] <ahoneybun> DVDs
[16:25] <ahoneybun> I know
[16:29] <mhall119> ovidiu-florin: it's price estimates, from the printer that does the official Ubuntu DVDs
[16:29] <mhall119> broken down for different options and quantities
[16:32] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: are the romanian version DVDs in tehre or not?
[16:32] <ahoneybun> they said that it would be too much to make a small batch
[16:33] <clivejo> LOL no, didnt survive!
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> too much what?
[16:33] <ahoneybun> money?
[16:33] <clivejo> I had no window controls
[16:33] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: hello, have you received my memo?
[16:33] <Riddell> clivejo: install kwin-x11
[16:33] <Riddell> that package was renamed
[16:33] <Riddell> I think I'll add a transitional
[16:33] <Riddell> cos that's a dangerous rename
[16:33] <clivejo> ah
[16:34] <clivejo> I had to revert
[16:34] <clivejo> will I try again and install kwin-x11?
[16:35] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: your memo?
[16:36] <Riddell> clivejo: yeah, works for me
[16:37] <clivejo> for some reason quassel openned half in and half off my screen
[16:37] <clivejo> and I couldnt move it so I could see what you were typing
[16:37] <Riddell> :(
[16:37] <Riddell> testing is a risky game
[16:38] <clivejo> helps if you know how to fix it ;)
[16:39] <Riddell> !testers | plasma 5.3.2 on wily
[16:39] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/plasma/build_status_5.3.2_wily.html
[16:42] <clivejo> ok lets try that again!
[16:44] <clivejo> thats better
[16:44] <clivejo> are fonts fuzzier on this build?
[16:44] <Riddell> they look the same to me
[16:45] <mamarley> Subpixel rendering on elements that have a translucent background has been broken for a *long* time.
[16:45] <clivejo> my kdeconnect widget looks fuzzy
[16:51] <clivejo> fonts definitaly are fuzzy in this, Kontact emails look fuzzy too
[16:51] <Riddell> clivejo: got oxygen-fonts installed?
[16:56] <clivejo> weird : E: Unable to locate package oxygen-fonts
[16:58] <Riddell> fonts-oxygen it is clivejo
[16:58] <clivejo> newest version
[17:00] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: can you please edit your trello account and add your real name there?
[17:05] <clivejo> ovidiu-florin: done
[17:13] <ovidiu-florin> clivejo: thank you
[17:19] <mparillo_> which ppa for 5.3.2?
[18:02] <ovidiu-florin> mparillo_: can you give me access to the Kubuntu Google+ page?
[18:13] <mparillo> ovidiu-florin: Who are you on G+?
[18:14] <ovidiu-florin> mparillo_: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+OvidiuFlorinBogdan/posts
[18:14] <ovidiu-florin> mparillo: ^
[18:14] <mparillo> https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/107577785796696065138/+OvidiuFlorinBogdan/posts 
[18:14] <mparillo> Oh, never mind. Let me try now.
[18:16] <mparillo> Alas, I can see the managers, but I do not see how I can add any.
[19:03] <ovidiu-florin> http://youtu.be/JInlEO8RMXo
[19:03] <ahoneybun>  Showtime People!
[19:15] <sgclark> ahoneybun: is there some sort of chat for this?
[19:16] <ahoneybun> irc: #kubuntu-podcast
[19:16] <ahoneybun> sgclark: ^
[20:22] <soee> Riddell: only breeze left to build in 5.3.2  ?
[20:22] <Riddell> It's built no?
[20:24] <soee> ah failed for vivd
[20:24] <soee> so can i test it on wily ?
[20:36] <soee> uh i was disconnected
[20:36] <soee> Riddell: so it is ready for tests ? :)
[20:40] <soee> seems like they are not ready :)
[20:41] <soee> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11806722/ kubuntu-desktop and plasma-desktop are marked to be removed
[20:43] <Riddell> Hmm that's not gooe
[20:51] <clivejo> Riddell: calligra failed on LP
[20:51] <clivejo> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210448180/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.calligra_1%3A2.9.5-0ubuntu~unbuntu15.10~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz
[20:53] <shadeslayer> who needs plasma-desktop anyway :p
[20:53] <clivejo> cp: cannot stat 'debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/calligra_filter_wps2odt.so': No such file or directory
[20:54] <soee> :-)
[20:59] <Riddell> Ok I'll look in the morning
[20:59] <shadeslayer> ENOENT
[21:01] <ahoneybun> Rick_Timmis: ovidiu-florin UserBase and Github are updated about Special Keys
[21:04] <ahoneybun> thanks mparillo
[21:18] <mparillo_> Thanks to the Kubuntu Podcast team for giving me something I felt like sharing.
[21:21] <mparillo_> Not sharing grumpiness, only {{{hugs}}} (when explicit consent is given in advance for each, of course)
[21:36] <blizzz> heyo. KDE keeps me locked out with my normal user. after suspend (and reboot) login goes only so far, then display stuff dies. kscreen_backend, ksplashqm, and others segfault. i can login with another user though. so looks like user config. happy about ideas. i removed alread kscreen config without luck.
[21:57] <soee> el capitan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eefh2Nif-is :)
[21:59] <blizzz>  solution: removing ~/.local/share/kscreen
[22:25] <ahoneybun> sgclark: so 5.3.2 is up for testing?
[22:26] <sgclark> ahoneybun: as of right now I have not touched wily sorry. I am still working on trusty/utopic backports.
[22:27] <ahoneybun> I see
[22:27] <ahoneybun> no love for vivid
[22:27] <sgclark> ahoneybun: lots of love for vivid, I am using it lol
[22:27] <sgclark> just only one person hun.
[22:28] <ahoneybun> yea but 5.3.2 fixes a shutdown bug
[22:28] <ahoneybun> :(
[22:28] <sgclark> hmm. do you know if it was run?
[22:28] <sgclark> Riddell: ^^ was vivid run?
[22:29] <Riddell> It's only got packages for wily
[22:30] <sgclark> ahh ok, I will run the backports tomorrow then.
[22:30] <sgclark> ahoneybun: ^
[22:31] <Riddell> Thanks :)
[22:31] <ahoneybun> for 5.3.2 on vivid?
[22:31] <ahoneybun> sgclark: 6
[22:31] <ahoneybun> ^
[22:31] <Riddell> Me snoozes
[22:31] <sgclark> ahoneybun: yeah
[22:31] <sgclark> night Riddell
[22:31] <ahoneybun>  {{{hugs}}} sgclark :)
[22:37] <sgclark> Weee I am an official KDE E.v memeber!
[22:37] <sgclark> err member
[22:46] <clivejo> what does E v mean
[22:48] <clivejo> not doubt is an Electron Volt 
[22:50] <sgclark> heh not sure, valorie ^ ?
[22:50] <mparillo_> The German version of Inc. or Ltd.
[22:50] <sgclark> thanks
[22:55] <mparillo_> YW and congrats.
[22:57] <sgclark> ty