=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:37] sorry to insist but an idea? === salem_ is now known as _salem [06:53] good morning === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [10:40] Hey! Problem solved :) [10:40] It is because my home was encrypted [10:40] Now, apps run well on my phone :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === alex-abreu is now known as alex-abreu|off === _salem is now known as salem_ === flexiondotorg_ is now known as flexiondotorg === Noskcaj_ is now known as Noskcaj === jedidiah_ is now known as jedidiah === ogra_` is now known as ogra_ === alecu_ is now known as alecu === Ionic is now known as Guest47490 === sephiap_ is now known as sephiap === Guest47490 is now known as Ionic [15:46] Help alla someone know how tocqueville manage sockets in ubuntu sdk? [15:46] Hello [15:46] hi [15:47] Does someone say how to manage sockets in ubuntu sdk? [15:47] So I'm still somewhat new to Ubuntu development. Whenever I make a simple QML app the "import Ubuntu.Components 1.1" line is red underlined. and it errors whenever I go to build [15:47] anybody know whats with that? [15:48] no [15:48] Bummer [15:50] Raven67854, are you using the SDK PPA? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/ [15:50] does anyone know how to declare a string in QML that contains a emoji character from the emoticon set - i.e. 1F601 or higher? [15:54] joc_: I haven't tried, but does adding the character directly into the string not work? [15:55] mcphail: i can add a char that is four hex digits long using \u123A for example - but doesnt work for 4 digits i think [15:55] sorry doesnt work for 5 digits [15:57] hi! Is there a faq or something somewhere explaining the process for submitting a code change to a package managed by the ubuntu development team? [15:58] joc_: and if you paste the character directly into the string, does that work? [16:01] mcphail: good idea, and rather obvious now i think about it ;) [16:02] joc_: :) [16:03] mcphail: yep, copying out of a browser list does do the trick 😁 [16:03] joc_: iirc, Qt does all kinds of messing about with utf-8 and different charsets. A bit of a mess. But I assume a QML textfield will simply accept whatever you paste [16:05] (now, if I could get PuTTY, screen and irssi to show high characters correctly, I might be able to see what you sent instead of an empy box :) [16:07] mcphail: thanks (seemed to show up ok in my combination of gnome-term, tmux, irrsi) === dpm is now known as dpm-afk [16:22] Is there a release schedule published for Ubuntu Phone? [16:27] joachimhs, every 6 weeks [16:27] (there is no fixed schedule since it can vary if QA finds bugs etc) [16:31] ogra_: OK. Is the features planned/released published anywhere? [16:31] ogra_: And will the phone list new updates as they become available= [16:31] ? [16:32] there are bug lists (dont ask me where :P ... looks for canonical-system-image on launchpad) [16:32] the phone notifies you if there is a new OTA available [16:32] and sil2100 usually sends a mail about the changes to the ubuntu-phone mailing list afterwards [16:33] ok [16:33] Just got my Aquaris E5 today [16:33] cool ! [16:33] It takes a but getting used to, coming from the iPhone [16:34] well, once you are used to it it is also hard to go back :) [16:34] you always swipe from the sides and wonder why nothing happens ... at least me :) [16:34] :) [16:34] +1 [16:34] The whole "no back button" is very different [16:35] But I suppose ill get used to it [16:35] you will [16:35] takes a bit :) [16:35] and well ... there are back buttons in apps ... at the top left [16:36] I am really hoping that both Ubuntu Phone and FirefoxOS can make a huge OSS dent on iPhone and Andrioid! [16:36] switching between apps on Android is a real chore these days, particularly as I've now added a "swipe from the right and notice nothing happening" step [16:36] True... But there is no button to press to "exit this app" [16:37] joachimhs: swipe open the carousel then swipe away the app [16:37] well, exiting via swiping it away from the app spread will quickly go into your finger memory :) [16:37] you can just swipe them up/down to close them [16:38] I guess. But there's still the "no button to exit the carousel" :) But Im sure Ill get used to it. Just a different concept i think [16:39] Also, There should be a "ask for PIN code after X hours", like the iPhone has. Means that the phone is "relatively safe" if lost, but also that I don't have to type the pin code all the time [16:40] that sounds like a suggestion to make in a whishlist bug for the designers [16:40] (there shoudl be a ubuntu-ux product in launchpad you can file it against) [16:40] ok [16:41] (not sure what the security team would say about it though :) ) [16:45] Is this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux used to report things for the Ubuntu Phone too? [16:45] depends what type of report [16:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers is the canonical (heu) list [16:45] hm [16:45] ubuntu-ux is for design things, so we usually file bugs against specific apps, then add a task for ubuntu-uk [16:46] let me know if you need help there. [16:46] (I have filed a few bugs in my time) [16:46] popey: I would like to file the suggestion from above: "ask for PIN code after X hours" [16:47] "Data on lock screen" ? [16:47] no [16:47] that would hit quite a few things [16:47] you want to lock the phone but _not_ have it ask for pin? [16:47] that seems insecure [16:48] Well.. I want it to ask for a pin if the phone has been on the lock screen for "X amount of minutes/hours" [16:48] he wants it to lock after a few hours of not having been on i guess [16:48] Which is somewhere in-between "no pin" and "ask every time" [16:48] still sounds insecure :) [16:49] well, more secure than no pin at all [16:49] but sure, file it... uhm. [16:49] ish [16:49] (and it would eb optional, you would explicitly select that feature) [16:49] I'd file it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image and let us have the bug number [16:50] popey: Well.. on my laptop I can choose to walk away from it without locking it, or I can choose to lock it. Since the phone will "lock automatically to save power on inactivity", something in between is nice [16:50] sure. [16:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1470586 [16:58] Launchpad bug 1470586 in Canonical System Image "Lock screen: Ask for PIN after x amount of minutes/hours" [Undecided,New] [16:59] Ah.. I beat the bot ;) [16:59] It was filed as a bug, but its more of a feature I suppose [17:03] joachimhs: on Ubuntu, bugs _are_ features :) [17:03] :) [17:05] thanks joachimhs [17:06] popey: no worries [17:06] tagged ubuntu-ux === faenil_ is now known as faenil [17:06] i guess I should even take a stab at implementing it :) [17:07] The "The Meizu MX4" looks quite nice [17:08] the screen and camera are quite awesome [17:08] Good quality Hardware is one of the major driving force in high-end markets like Europe and the US [17:09] well,. it has its drawbacks ... single SIM, no SD and for now only available with 16G with ubuntu [17:09] I guess but at €299 it still pretty sweet [17:09] so it is sadly not all shiny [17:09] yeah, thats true [17:10] One of my main arguments against the iPhone is its extremely high price point, combined with fragile screens [17:10] davidcalle, I'm on 15.04 and I installed straight from the software center === dpm-afk is now known as dpm [17:32] Is there an easy way to control the music from the lock-screen? [17:33] not yet...'soon' ;-) [17:33] nope ... there is control support from the volume indicator in the works though [17:33] specifically from the sound-menu indicator [17:33] like you have on ubuntu desktop [17:33] OK [17:33] "Swipe from bottom" in lock screen should work :) [17:33] Kind of iPhone-ish [17:34] what would that do ? [17:34] the bottom is reserved for creativity of app developers ;) [17:34] OK [17:34] so it is excluded from the system gestures [17:35] ok. swipe from top could also work. Add a "note" icon at the top-hand bar to bring down audio controls [17:35] yes, that is what i described above :) [17:36] you swipe from top and go to the volume control ... there you have play/ppause and back/forward [17:38] ogra_: ah :) [18:09] Does the Ubuntu Phone support apps on the sim-card? === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:25] bzoltan_: zbenjamin thanks for the merge. I'm getting a bit burned out on the project, so I'd just like to know what you would like for a final push? Will we be trying to get this merged into qtcreator? If i'm not online, send me a message. I want to make sure this goes over well because I will need to use this in a portfolio for finding a job. === _salem is now known as salem_