[03:37] <jrbt> sorry to insist but an idea?
[06:53] <dholbach> good morning
[10:40] <jrbt> Hey! Problem solved :)
[10:40] <jrbt> It is because my home was encrypted
[10:40] <jrbt> Now, apps run well on my phone :)
[15:46] <Matlin> Help alla someone know how tocqueville manage sockets in ubuntu sdk?
[15:46] <Raven67854> Hello
[15:46] <Matlin> hi
[15:47] <Matlin> Does someone say how to manage sockets in ubuntu sdk?
[15:47] <Raven67854> So I'm still somewhat new to Ubuntu development. Whenever I make a simple QML app the "import Ubuntu.Components 1.1" line is red underlined. and it errors whenever I go to build
[15:47] <Raven67854> anybody know whats with that?
[15:48] <Matlin> no
[15:48] <Raven67854> Bummer
[15:50] <davidcalle> Raven67854, are you using the SDK PPA? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/
[15:50] <joc_> does anyone know how to declare a string in QML that contains a emoji character from the emoticon set - i.e. 1F601 or higher?
[15:54] <mcphail> joc_: I haven't tried, but does adding the character directly into the string not work?
[15:55] <joc_> mcphail: i can add a char that is four hex digits long using \u123A for example - but doesnt work for 4 digits i think
[15:55] <joc_> sorry doesnt work for 5 digits
[15:57] <MrsButterWorps> hi!  Is there a faq or something somewhere explaining the process for submitting a code change to a package managed by the ubuntu development team?
[15:58] <mcphail> joc_: and if you paste the character directly into the string, does that work?
[16:01] <joc_> mcphail: good idea, and rather obvious now i think about it ;)
[16:02] <mcphail> joc_: :)
[16:03] <joc_> mcphail: yep, copying out of a browser list does do the trick 😁
[16:03] <mcphail> joc_: iirc, Qt does all kinds of messing about with utf-8 and different charsets. A bit of a mess. But I assume a QML textfield will simply accept whatever you paste
[16:05] <mcphail> (now, if I could get PuTTY, screen and irssi to show high characters correctly, I might be able to see what you sent instead of an empy box :)
[16:07] <joc_> mcphail: thanks (seemed to show up ok in my combination of gnome-term, tmux, irrsi)
[16:22] <joachimhs> Is there a release schedule published for Ubuntu Phone?
[16:27] <ogra_> joachimhs, every 6 weeks
[16:27] <ogra_> (there is no fixed schedule since it can vary if QA finds bugs etc)
[16:31] <joachimhs> ogra_: OK. Is the features planned/released published anywhere?
[16:31] <joachimhs> ogra_: And will the phone list new updates as they become available=
[16:31] <joachimhs> ?
[16:32] <ogra_> there are bug lists (dont ask me where :P ... looks for canonical-system-image on launchpad)
[16:32] <ogra_> the phone notifies you if there is a new OTA available
[16:32] <ogra_> and sil2100 usually sends a mail about the changes to the ubuntu-phone mailing list afterwards
[16:33] <joachimhs> ok
[16:33] <joachimhs> Just got my Aquaris E5 today
[16:33] <ogra_> cool !
[16:33] <joachimhs> It takes a but getting used to, coming from the iPhone
[16:34] <ogra_> well, once you are used to it it is also hard to go back :)
[16:34] <ogra_> you always swipe from the sides and wonder why nothing happens ... at least me :)
[16:34] <joachimhs> :)
[16:34] <mcphail> +1
[16:34] <joachimhs> The whole "no back button" is very different
[16:35] <joachimhs> But I suppose ill get used to it
[16:35] <ogra_> you will
[16:35] <ogra_> takes a bit :)
[16:35] <ogra_> and well ... there are back buttons in apps ... at the top left
[16:36] <joachimhs> I am really hoping that both Ubuntu Phone and FirefoxOS can make a huge OSS dent on iPhone and Andrioid!
[16:36] <mcphail> switching between apps on Android is a real chore these days, particularly as I've now added a "swipe from the right and notice nothing happening" step
[16:36] <joachimhs> True... But there is no button to press to "exit this app"
[16:37] <mcphail> joachimhs: swipe open the carousel then swipe away the app
[16:37] <ogra_> well, exiting via swiping it away from the app spread will quickly go into your finger memory :)
[16:37] <ogra_> you can just swipe them up/down to close them
[16:38] <joachimhs> I guess. But there's still the "no button to exit the carousel" :) But Im sure Ill get used to it. Just a different concept i think
[16:39] <joachimhs> Also, There should be a "ask for PIN code after X hours", like the iPhone has. Means that the phone is "relatively safe" if lost, but also that I don't have to type the pin code all the time
[16:40] <ogra_> that sounds like a suggestion to make in a whishlist bug for the designers
[16:40] <ogra_> (there shoudl be a ubuntu-ux product in launchpad you can file it against)
[16:40] <joachimhs> ok
[16:41] <ogra_> (not sure what the security team would say about it though :) )
[16:45] <joachimhs> Is this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux used to report things for the Ubuntu Phone too?
[16:45] <popey> depends what type of report
[16:45] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers is the canonical (heu) list
[16:45] <joachimhs> hm
[16:45] <popey> ubuntu-ux is for design things, so we usually file bugs against specific apps, then add a task for ubuntu-uk
[16:46] <popey> let me know if you need help there.
[16:46] <popey> (I have filed a few bugs in my time)
[16:46] <joachimhs> popey: I would like to file the suggestion from above: "ask for PIN code after X hours"
[16:47] <joachimhs> "Data on lock screen" ?
[16:47] <popey> no
[16:47] <popey> that would hit quite a few things
[16:47] <popey> you want to lock the phone but _not_ have it ask for pin?
[16:47] <popey> that seems insecure
[16:48] <joachimhs> Well.. I want it to ask for a pin if the phone has been on the lock screen for "X amount of minutes/hours"
[16:48] <ogra_> he wants it to lock after a few hours of not having been on i guess
[16:48] <joachimhs> Which is somewhere in-between "no pin" and "ask every time"
[16:48] <popey> still sounds insecure :)
[16:49] <ogra_> well, more secure than no pin at all
[16:49] <popey> but sure, file it... uhm.
[16:49] <popey> ish
[16:49] <ogra_> (and it would eb optional, you would explicitly select that feature)
[16:49] <popey> I'd file it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image and let us have the bug number
[16:50] <joachimhs> popey: Well.. on my laptop I can choose to walk away from it without locking it, or I can choose to lock it. Since the phone will "lock automatically to save power on inactivity", something in between is nice
[16:50] <popey> sure.
[16:58] <joachimhs> https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1470586
[16:59] <joachimhs> Ah.. I beat the bot ;)
[16:59] <joachimhs> It was filed as a bug, but its more of a feature I suppose
[17:03] <mcphail> joachimhs: on Ubuntu, bugs _are_ features :)
[17:03] <joachimhs> :)
[17:05] <popey> thanks joachimhs
[17:06] <joachimhs> popey: no worries
[17:06] <popey> tagged ubuntu-ux
[17:06] <joachimhs> i guess I should even take a stab at implementing it :)
[17:07] <joachimhs> The "The Meizu MX4" looks quite nice
[17:08] <ogra_> the screen and camera are quite awesome
[17:08] <joachimhs> Good quality Hardware is one of the major driving force in high-end markets like Europe and the US
[17:09] <ogra_> well,. it has its drawbacks ... single SIM, no SD and for now only available with 16G with ubuntu
[17:09] <joachimhs> I guess but at €299 it still pretty sweet
[17:09] <ogra_> so it is sadly not all shiny
[17:09] <ogra_> yeah, thats true
[17:10] <joachimhs> One of my main arguments against the iPhone is its extremely high price point, combined with fragile screens
[17:10] <Raven67854> davidcalle, I'm on 15.04 and I installed straight from the software center
[17:32] <joachimhs> Is there an easy way to control the music from the lock-screen?
[17:33] <ahayzen> not yet...'soon' ;-)
[17:33] <ogra_> nope ... there is control support from the volume indicator in the works though
[17:33] <ahayzen> specifically from the sound-menu indicator
[17:33] <ogra_> like you have on ubuntu desktop
[17:33] <joachimhs> OK
[17:33] <joachimhs> "Swipe from bottom" in lock screen should work :)
[17:33] <joachimhs> Kind of iPhone-ish
[17:34] <ogra_> what would that do ?
[17:34] <ogra_> the bottom is reserved for creativity of app developers ;)
[17:34] <joachimhs> OK
[17:34] <ogra_> so it is excluded from the system gestures
[17:35] <joachimhs> ok. swipe from top could also work. Add a "note" icon at the top-hand bar to bring down audio controls
[17:35] <ogra_> yes, that is what i described above :)
[17:36] <ogra_> you swipe from top and go to the volume control ... there you have play/ppause and back/forward
[17:38] <joachimhs> ogra_: ah :)
[18:09] <joachimhs> Does the Ubuntu Phone support apps on the sim-card?
[21:25] <akiva-thinkpad> bzoltan_: zbenjamin thanks for the merge. I'm getting a bit burned out on the project, so I'd just like to know what you would like for a final push? Will we be trying to get this merged into qtcreator?  If i'm not online, send me a message. I want to make sure this goes over well because I will need to use this in a portfolio for finding a job.