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dholbachgood morning06:53
* conyoo error parsing serv.dat07:59
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Mailman^WPostal Worker Day! 😃08:27
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rvrmardy: Good morning09:43
mardyrvr: hi!09:43
rvrmardy: Do you have a test case for cookie sharing?09:43
mardyrvr: you mean an automated one?09:44
rvrmardy: Nope, how to test it :)09:44
mardyrvr: yes, but currently it doesn't work09:44
mardyrvr: we need to fix the apparmor stuff09:45
rvrmardy: No problem, we want to add the test to the regression suite. Can you add it to the wiki, if not already?09:45
mardyrvr: we'll add it when the silo is ready to land, now it's all a bit unclear09:46
rvrmardy: Ok09:46
rvrmardy: Is there a design spec for cookie sharing?09:51
mardyrvr: nope09:54
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sturmflut2Ha, didrocks has won a Samsung Galaxy from the VisionMobile survey ;)10:21
sturmflut2Are we sure that thermal management on arale works correctly? Because I used the webbrowser on 3G yesterday, and the top of the device heated up way beyond 40°C. It was almost too hot to touch.10:28
sturmflut2A process running amok on a single core can heat the whole device up to a temperature that I would consider to be dangerous.10:29
FyxiCan I get help with building? How to build .zip file instead of .img? I want to make it flashable for samsung ;)10:33
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jrbtUh.. on http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/devices it is really "The all new BQ Aquaris E5 HD"?10:57
jrbtBq e5 HD -> HD sure?10:58
sturmflut2jrbt: There is a "HD" and an "FHD" model of the E5, the Ubuntu Edition is the "HD" one10:58
sturmflut2Hence the codename "vegetahd"10:58
jrbtOh ok.10:59
ogra_it does 720p ... so yes, HD :)10:59
sturmflut2This really confused me the first time I looked at it10:59
Stskeeps(qHD, HD and FHD are typical er, marketing .. terms.. indeed)11:00
sturmflut2john-mcaleely, ogra_ : Any comments to arale getting very hot?11:00
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jrbtOk thanks! so the 4G (android) version is the FHD, ok.11:01
john-mcaleelysturmflut2, I know some of the guys in taipei have been looking at it11:01
john-mcaleelyI've not followed closely the last few days11:02
ogra_sturmflut2, only that you should wait til winter comes :P11:02
ogra_its a nice pocket oven11:02
jrbtuh, my Nexus 4 has better performance but ubuntu touch is more fast/optimized on this Bq?11:02
ogra_jrbt, yes11:02
sturmflut2ogra_: You mean the nuclear winter you and Snappy Skynet are going to cause?11:02
john-mcaleelyLOL11:02
jrbtOk, and ram is very useful on Ubuntu Touch?11:03
ogra_sturmflut2, nah, not nuclear ... we'll just have enough fridges taking over the world11:03
ogra_if they all open their doors the same time ...11:03
sturmflut2ogra_: Sorry, it's "nucular"11:03
jrbtI don't care about the CPU, just ram, I preload all my app for fast open11:03
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jrbtUh, there are no dev channel for the e5? (https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/)11:12
tsdgeossil2100: do you know if Mirv is on holiday?11:26
ogra_jrbt, that looks like an oversight ... there is also none for arale (MX4) ...11:28
ogra_john-mcaleely, ^^11:28
ogra_(no ubuntu-developer images for vegeta and arale ? )11:28
sil2100tsdgeos: yes :)11:29
sil2100tsdgeos: IIRC he should be back for a week next week11:30
tsdgeosoki11:30
Fyxihello, how to build zip instead of img using ubuntu touch porting guide?11:32
ogra_Fyxi, why would you want that ?11:36
ogra_Fyxi, just flash boot.img and recovery.img ...11:37
Fyxii am trying to give a try of porting ubuntu touch to my device (there is port but it's kinda outdated and old)11:37
Fyxiyeah but it's samsung - i must use odin/heimdall to flash it11:37
ogra_right11:37
Fyxijust interested11:38
Fyxii was asking because this older port was using .zip files for flashing.11:42
FyxiAnd it was not my port so i don't know how he/she did it11:42
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morphisogra_: do you know if there is any documentation in the wiki about the boot process?12:22
morphislike the different configurations, the involvement of the recovery etc.12:22
morphisor anyone else maybe?12:22
ogra_there are some bits, but not everything is documented12:23
ogra_i once wrote https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ContainerArchitecture ... a little outdated though12:23
morphishm, ok12:24
ogra_recovery isnt involved in the boot process12:24
ogra_only in installation and upgrades12:24
morphisyes, I am looking into LP 1419928 and try to get those bits sorted12:25
ubot5Launchpad bug 1419928 in android (Ubuntu) "phone reset does not clear all user data" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/141992812:25
ogra_the main part of the boot is done via the initrd12:25
ogra_ah12:25
ogra_yeah, for that you want to look at the system-image script in recovery indeed12:25
morphisyeah12:25
morphisI am thinking about how to manage that the best way with the different configurations we have12:26
ogra_https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery.git;a=blob;f=system-image-upgrader;h=cd2e5039f9a300c2e74cbb9d5b8bfab275da1909;hb=518dd4d01b35998dd921a1562b253963bbd860bc12:26
morphisyeah12:26
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ogra_that used to be sergiusens' domain in the past12:26
morphisbasically for the format part we have to differentiate the different configuration if I am write .. those where we can format the partition and those where we have to use rm to keep the .img files12:27
morphisogra_: :)12:27
ogra_(most of the options there also need an equivalent in ubuntu-device-flash)12:27
ogra_well, essentially you only need to proplery wipe the userdata partition12:27
ogra_(i would simply format it ... and if you want offer an advanced option that also zeroes it (with a warning that this takes long))12:28
ogra_the readonly partition doesnt really need anything here ... and img files should live in /cache which i wouldnt touch12:29
john-mcaleelyjrbt, ogra_ vegeta is in the same channel as krillin:12:29
john-mcaleelyhttp://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu-developer/12:29
morphisogra_: that would be simple but for the N4 for example the img files seem to live in /data12:29
jrbtjohn-mcaleely, Oh ok.12:30
morphisrather than /cache12:30
jrbtthanks!12:30
morphisso simple format doesn't seem to work12:30
ogra_john-mcaleely, ah, just no -proosed image then, k12:30
ogra_*proposed12:30
john-mcaleelyogra_, yeah, that might be an oversight. sil2100 ^ ?12:30
ogra_morphis, oh, yeah, the N4 still uses loop mounted images, i forgot about that12:30
john-mcaleelyand no, none for arale, I think. I'll ask if that's a todo item12:30
ogra_that will be very tricky12:30
morphisogra_: so N4 is the only one using loop mounted images?12:31
morphisand does it mount to ubuntu rootfs also through loop?12:31
ogra_well, it is the variant we used to recommend for ports12:31
ogra_so you dont need to re-partition the device and can easily go back to android12:31
ogra_none of the official phones use that setup since it eats system performance12:31
john-mcaleelyI assume flo, manta and others also loopmount12:31
ogra_yeah12:31
morphisogra_: so for non-ports its recommended to have an additional partition for the ubuntu rootfs?12:32
ogra_all nexus devicess12:32
john-mcaleelyit's also just one more twist, and we don't need it on production phones12:32
ogra_not additional ...12:32
morphisjohn-mcaleely: right12:32
john-mcaleelyI guess it will always be used by devices that wish to dual boot, and have android as the first os they use12:32
ogra_we re-use /system and resize system and data12:32
ogra_it is more a resizing thing than a re-partitining one12:32
morphisogra_: so on N4 /system isn't touched at all? It still contains the Android image which was there before flashing ubuntu to the device?12:33
ogra_for the official phones you really should format or zero the partition ... for the others you need to find some other way i fear12:33
ogra_yeah12:33
morphishm12:36
morphisogra_: from what I see in the system-image-upgrader we should be able to differentiate this through the USE_SYSTEM_PARTITION switch12:36
ogra_morphis, yep, i think that should work12:38
morphisogra_: lets see12:41
sil2100john-mcaleely: what's up?12:42
john-mcaleelysil2100, looks like there is no rc-proposed/ubuntu-developer vegetahd image12:42
john-mcaleelywhich is probably a small bug12:43
sil2100Ah, that channel is not operational right now12:43
john-mcaleelyit's not one I use12:43
sil2100I wanted that, but then slangasek convinced me it would be unnecessary additional work for everyone12:43
john-mcaleelybut it lacks symmetry at the moment - there is a krillin image there12:43
sil2100So we don't have any daily-builds for ubuntu-developer12:43
john-mcaleelyfair enough12:44
john-mcaleelysounds fine to me12:44
sil2100https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ <- this should always have the list of valid channels12:44
davmor2john-mcaleely, sil2100: is it not just that the krillin channel on devel-proposed should be bq-aquaris.en not krillin.en to match rc-proposed?12:47
john-mcaleelythere's that as well12:48
john-mcaleelya minor glitch in the matrix12:48
sil2100davmor2: well, yeah... slangasek wanted to wait a bit before he changes that12:48
sil2100Right now it's not consistent12:48
sil2100Since it's an old channel before we decided on the bq-aquaris.en name?12:49
davmor2indeed that's why I said it :)12:49
sil2100...questionmark at the end was added by accident12:49
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peat-psuwitMy phone seems to have symptom of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/dialer-app/+bug/144296213:42
ubot5Launchpad bug 1442962 in telepathy-ofono (Ubuntu Vivid) "Dialer app reports "No network" even though cellular is connected" [Critical,In progress]13:42
peat-psuwitAnd I see that telepathy-ofono-ril-mc-plugin isn't installed on my device. Should it be installed? Or there's other reason?13:43
kenvandineElleo, can you review my branch?  https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/events_type/+merge/26324313:44
Elleokenvandine: sure thing13:44
kenvandinethx13:44
Elleokenvandine: any test app that can send/receive events?13:46
kenvandinenope13:47
Elleokenvandine: okay, added one quick comment about the code13:48
kenvandinethx13:48
kenvandinefixed :)13:49
Elleogreat13:49
peat-psuwitwhy isn't telepathy-ofono-ril-mc-plugin in ubuntu touch image?14:07
kenvandinejgdx, i freed silo 47 and reconfigured silo 22 with the other branches14:26
kenvandinejgdx, but i'll wait to rebuild it until silo 40 lands14:26
jgdxkenvandine, thanks14:26
jgdxkenvandine, if something fails, we just skip connection type fixdesign14:27
kenvandinesure14:27
jgdxdefer it to later14:27
kenvandinei threw in my AP test fix too14:27
jgdxnice! OTA5 will be juicy for USS14:27
kenvandineindeed14:28
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kenvandinejgdx, have you done any manual testing of my libqofono update?14:50
kenvandinei'm building it for vivid in the PPA now, going to test the call waiting issue with that14:50
kenvandinejgdx, watching monitor-ofono, toggling call waiting isn't doing anything14:51
jrbtUh.. The nearby scope is not available for Nexus 4?14:51
kenvandinei'm wondering if that might be something fixed upstream14:51
jrbtOr it is "Today"?14:51
kenvandinejrbt, that's different14:51
kenvandinei thought all those scopes were in the store now14:51
kenvandinebut maybe not14:52
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jgdxkenvandine, haven't had a chance yet. Would love to tomorrow though.15:02
* jgdx bbl15:02
mhall119sergiusens: ping15:03
charlespopey, ping15:07
charlespopey, I'm starting to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/unity-notifications/+bug/147003115:07
ubot5Launchpad bug 1470031 in unity-notifications "Phone won't stop vibrating on calendar notification" [Critical,Confirmed]15:07
sergiusensmhall119: pong15:08
charlespopey, is syncing with Google a necessary step for triggering this? does the problem not trigger for you if you just create a new event from the calendar?15:08
mhall119sergiusens: seb128 tells me that there's a snappy PPA where I can get tools to create snappy desktop images, can you tell me which one that is?15:08
sergiusensmhall119: I haven't synced packages yet, so you would need to wget ubuntu-device-flash from wily and dpkg -i it and also add ppa:snappy-dev/tools15:09
seb128mhall119, I didn't say that, I said the snappy ppa might have that version but I'm unsure15:09
sergiusensit will only be released next week15:09
seb128but what sergiusens said15:09
sergiusenswe release the tools and stable image updates at the same time15:10
Elleokenvandine: I'm testing that branch on the latest wily image and I'm getting a crash in the gmail app when attempting to attach a contact (attaching images works fine), is that working for you?15:12
kenvandineit did a couple days ago15:13
Elleokenvandine: I'm just about to reflash to see if it happens on a clean image15:13
kenvandineoh wait...15:13
kenvandinei think that's a bug in the browser15:13
kenvandinei seem to recall QA running into that15:13
Elleooh?15:13
kenvandinebut i wasn't getting the same crash15:13
factorHas anyone loaded ubuntu on a HP stream 8 tablet?15:13
kenvandineduring the last landing15:13
Elleocurious that it'd happen with contacts and not images15:14
kenvandineyeah15:14
mhall119sergiusens: from the wily archives or the PPA?15:14
kenvandinelet me see if i can find the bug #15:14
Elleookay, thanks15:14
kenvandineElleo, also curious that it wasn't crashing for me15:14
Elleoyeah15:14
sergiusensmhall119: ppa works for trusty, vivid and wily; but you need the archive ubuntu-device-flash from wily15:15
kenvandineqa tested without my silo and reproduced the same thing and traced it back to a known bug15:15
factorWhere is a list of supported tablets and chipsets?15:16
SturmFlutfactor: Only some Nexus tablets are "supported"15:17
kenvandineElleo, bug 146689215:17
ubot5bug 1466892 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "gmail webapp crashes when attaching a contact to a new message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146689215:17
SturmFlutfactor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working_with_ubuntu-device-flash15:17
factorHp stream is suppose to work , jsut did not know how well its a atom chipset not arm15:19
mhall119sergiusens: ubuntu-device-flash_0.25-0ubuntu1_i386 ?15:21
sergiusensmhall119: if you are on i386 if not amd6415:23
factoryes atom is a i38615:23
factorBut does use the touch drivers etc..15:24
Elleokenvandine: thanks15:24
kenvandineElleo, still doesn't make sense that i don't get that crash :/15:24
Elleokenvandine: yeah :/15:27
Elleokenvandine: how many contacts do you have?15:28
kenvandinenot sure, 500 or so?15:28
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kenvandinebut that would be in address-book-app anyway15:28
Elleokenvandine: just wondering if the fact I have a lot of contacts all with pictures causes contacts to take up more memory than it does for you and maybe causes the oxide render process to get oom killed15:28
Elleoprobably not that then, I have a lot less than 50015:29
mhall119sergiusens: seb128: okay, I have the wily ubuntu-device-flash installed, how do I make a personal image?15:38
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Elleokenvandine: approved that branch16:04
kenvandineElleo, thx16:08
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popeycharles: sorry, was afk - do you have what you need?16:16
cwayne_oooh, soon you can write ios apps in go, I wonder if go+qml would work, and then you could have a similar codebase for an ubuntu touch + ios app16:17
popeycharles: just created an event for 3 mins time to see16:17
mcphailcwayne_: I haven't used go yet. Do you find it better than C++ for a backend?16:19
popeycharles: oh, hang on, I can't reproduce it because it was reverted :)16:20
cwayne_mcphail, i like it, but i don't really know c++16:20
mcphailcwayne_: does qmake support it directly or do you need to hack around?16:22
cwayne_mcphail, i've hacked around with cmake, havent looked at qmake16:26
mcphailcwayne_: learning go _and_ cmake would probably be beyond me :)16:28
cwayne_mcphail, if I could do it, so could you :)16:28
mcphailcwayne_: I'm an autotools boy. I'm using that for my builds. It is the wrong tool for the job, but at least I know it16:29
cwayne_lol16:29
mcphailwhat's the quote? - "When all you have is a hammer..."16:30
popeycharles: however, I may have found another new and interesting bug for you16:37
popeycharles: bug 1470583  (if anyone fancies trying to reproduce :)16:53
ubot5bug 1470583 in unity-notifications (Ubuntu RTM) "Phone won't stop reminding me of calendar events" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147058316:53
charlespopey, back16:53
popeyo/16:53
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charlespopey, I think that's a calendar-app bug, not a unity-notifications one16:53
* popey adds a task16:54
charlespopey, if it's just got that one event in it, can you pastebin your ~/.local/share/evolution/calendar/system/calendar.ics16:54
mcphailpopey: can you set an event with no notification at all. I had to stop using the calendar app because I was getting notifications at midnight for every all-day event16:55
popeyREPEAT:316:55
popeycharles: that?16:55
charlespopey, yep16:55
popeygotcha16:55
popeythanks charles16:56
charlespopey, nb: "This property defines the number of time the alarm should be repeated, after the initial trigger."16:57
charlespopey, so if you want it to go off once, repeat should be omitted or set to zero16:57
popeymakes sense16:57
charleshm, what would be the Right Thing for mcphail's bug about all-day events ringing at midnight16:58
charleswhat do other calendars, e.g. google, do with all-day events like that?16:59
mcphailcharles: I gave up trying to debug it, as my events kept waking up my wife and she threatened to kill me16:59
charles:-)16:59
charlesoh, I suspect the problem is straightforward enough, calendar-app is probably creating the reminder to go off shortly before the event's begin time, which is midnight for all-day events17:00
charlesI'm just not sure what the Right Thing would be to do instead17:00
mcphailcharles: yes - but it still plays even if you try to remove the reminder17:00
charlespopey: ^ dyk?17:00
popeyI don't know what android / ios do17:01
charlesmcphail, did you file a bug for calendar-app?17:01
mcphailcharles: (these are events synced with my Google calendar, if that is important. Don't know if it still happens on vivid as I have deleted all my all-day events)17:01
mcphailcharles: If I get a wife-free spell I'll file it. Need to work out exactly what steps reproduce it17:02
mcphailcharles: That's why I was wondering if anyone else had noticed it17:02
charlesmcphail, if you can reproduce it, might want to add indicator-datetime to that ticket too. I guess calendar-app wouldn't be to blame for events that get imported from other calendars...17:03
mcphailcharles: will do17:03
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kenvandinejgdx, if i only have 1 sim in my krillin, should i see 2 sims in settings?17:32
kenvandinei thought we chose the single sim UI if the sim wasn't present17:32
jgdxkenvandine, nope.. new libq?17:33
jgdxwe did17:33
kenvandineright now i do have the new libqofono17:33
kenvandineand i'm seeing stuff for SIM 217:34
kenvandinein phone and celluar17:34
jgdxwe check the present flag, maybe check that?17:34
kenvandinewithout a SIM inserted17:34
kenvandinewhat's interesting is with just one sim in it, we do toggle voiceCallForwarding properly17:34
kenvandinebut it doesn't when 2 sims are present17:34
kenvandinePresent = 017:35
kenvandinefor ril_117:35
kenvandinebut the UI is stull showing both sims17:36
jgdxui code might need a revisit17:36
kenvandineyeah...17:36
kenvandineit's not just under phone17:36
kenvandinecellular too17:36
kenvandinei'm sure this worked before!17:36
* kenvandine downgrades libqofono to verify this bug is only with 2 sims17:37
jgdxwith .70 it does17:37
kenvandinejgdx, does what?17:37
jgdxwork :)17:37
kenvandineyou mean only show the single sim ui?17:37
jgdxi use krillin with 1 sim all the time17:37
kenvandinei was talking about the call waiting bug :)17:38
jgdxoh17:38
kenvandinebut still17:38
kenvandineinteresting...17:38
kenvandinei see Present = 017:38
kenvandinefor ril_117:38
jgdxhm17:38
kenvandineand Present = 1 for ril_017:38
kenvandinebut still see the dual sim UI17:38
kenvandinejgdx, also... fwiw... i have silo 22 with your call forwarding branch installed17:39
kenvandinejgdx, ok, confirmed with libqofono 0.70 i see the single sim UI17:40
kenvandinemaybe a race condition with 0.7917:40
kenvandinevoiceCallWaiting changing works fine with 0.70 too with just 1 sim17:41
kenvandineit's only busted with 2 sims17:41
kenvandinejgdx, well crap... switched back to 0.79 and now i see the single sim UI again17:43
kenvandinemaybe the one time i saw the dual sim UI was a race of some sort17:43
SturmFlutogra_, ondra, john-mca` : Do we have pre-built android boot images with debugging kernels for our production devices?17:43
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kenvandinejgdx, do you know if there is a way to enable more verbose debug output from libqofono?17:45
kenvandineor do i need to rebuild it with some debug output added?17:45
ogra_SturmFlut, no17:45
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SturmFlutogra_: Damn, then I have to build and boot my own kernel, which didn't work last time17:56
kalikianahmmm how would I get into the bootloader for the purposes of flashing these days?18:20
kalikianaI bricked my device and can't boot normally anymore18:20
kalikianaI can't seem to get in there18:20
kalikianahmmm fastboot seems to be doing something18:22
peat-psuwitCan something in android container set system time?18:24
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kalikiana"yay", failed to enter recovery...18:58
SturmFlutogra_, ondra: Is there a full list of steps needed to build a working kernel from https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5.git and get it booted? I built the kernel and updated boot.img, but it won't boot on the device.19:00
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VincentInPChello, anyone can tell me if succeed in sync of contacts from Owncloud? I've a self signed certificate and it seems impossible!19:10
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kalikianahmmm19:30
kalikianaafter 5 times still stuck19:30
kalikianano idea if that image ever was successfully flashed19:30
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ondraSturmFlut public krillin kernel repo has all you need, kernel code, how to build and how to create boot image20:00
ondraSturmFlut it should have all you need20:00
SturmFlutondra: You mean https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5 ?20:02
anpok_hm really?20:02
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SturmFlutBecause that one has no instructions on how to build the boot image, and it's the one I can't get booted20:03
ondraSturmFlut yeah, choose ubuntu master20:04
ondraSturmFlut check ubuntu master branch20:04
SturmFlutDamn those branches ;)20:06
VincentInPCNo one succeed in syncing contacts ?!20:07
VincentInPCI've deleted all mines, help me please :X20:08
VincentInPCany name, any mail address to contact?20:08
SturmFlutVincentInPC: I think there are some guys on the ubuntu-phone mailing list20:10
VincentInPCdo you know them or do I need to subscribe it?20:11
SturmFlutVincentInPC: It's most likely better to subscribe20:14
SturmFlutStupid Internet takes ages to pull stuff from github today :/20:15
VincentInPCSturmFlut: is it this one ?  mail ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net20:23
ondraSturmFlut :)20:23
SturmFlutVincentInPC: Yes20:25
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VincentInPC" Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list. "20:32
VincentInPCwhat doest it mean ?20:32
VincentInPCSturmFlut: *20:32
pmcgowanVincentInPC, you can just add yourself to the team and mailing list20:34
SturmFlutVincentInPC: Oh, really? I never noticed20:34
VincentInPCOh ok I've suscribed from launchpad.net20:34
VincentInPCthank you guys =)20:34
pmcgowanVincentInPC, and regarding contacts, I sync mine with google fine, was that what you were trying to do?20:35
VincentInPCyes but with my own owncloud server, meaning I'm using a selff signed certificate20:36
VincentInPCand as always all developers make me shit with that20:37
pmcgowanah ok20:37
VincentInPC(I always don't understand the problem with self signed certificates while I'm warned of what I'm doing, because no HTTPS is very very bad than that !=20:37
VincentInPCanyway20:38
SturmFlutondra: Thank you SO much. Booted immediately.20:39
SturmFlutNow to enable all the interesting things!20:40
SturmFlutmzanetti: Ping21:04
popeyalecu: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/web/ubuntu-webapps-guide/ the wording for --store-session-cookies looks wrong to me21:17
popeyalecu: "When enabled, the session is kept active until the phone reboots."21:17
popeyis that right?21:17
alecupopey: looks wrong to my untrained eyes, so I think we should ask somebody on dbarth's team to check it :-)21:19
alecuI think it should read: "the session is kept active *even after* the phone reboots"21:20
popeyoh yeah, duh, sorry.21:21
popeyI keep pinging you incorrectly21:21
dobeyalecu: i think the intent is that "while user phablet is logged in" is the "session" there. so session cookies resetting on reboot makes sense in that respect21:33
mcphailHeh - you can't download the Open App Store directly from the phone browser. Rather ironic21:33
popeywell either way, it doesn't actually seem to work for html5 apps21:34
popeyusing webapp-container21:34
dobeypopey: ah, no idea how it's actually implemented :)21:35
popeysaves to an sqlite db called cookies21:35
popeyit seems21:35
dobeymcphail: eh, it's a modicum of protection between installing a random app package from the internet, and totally breaking your phone :)21:35
popeyor rather, doesn't21:35
dobeyheh21:35
jpastorehi! I was considering installing ubuntu touch on my phone. 1 wiki said the note 2 was not really operational naother said it seemed to work fine. Anyone have experience with a note 2?21:37
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kalikianafor the benefit of anyone else possibly running into this.. it's worth double-checking the recovery.img used for flashing... the fact that "unable to enter recovery" is both a valid and a meaningless error at different times doesnn't help realizing if that file is erroneous22:20
kalikiana(I got a new copy from http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/05/hacking-ubuntu-touch-part-1-ubuntu-device-flash/)22:20
SturmFlutYay, another customer served!22:22
tathhuMaaybe it's time to jump in to Ubuntu-boat22:22
tathhuJolla HW </322:22
SturmFlutNew post: "Mediatek details: SoC startup", http://sturmflut.github.io/mediatek/2015/07/02/mediatek-details-soc-startup/22:23
kalikianaSturmFlut: indeed, your blog came in incredibly handy. one reason for that seems to be that the wiki doesn't even list krillin... although in fairness you don't try to cover dozens of funky devices so maybe different audiences22:25
SturmFlutkalikiana: I only write about things I can test on my own devices, which are krillin and arale at the moment22:26
tathhuAnyone ordered bq lately?22:26
SturmFlutkalikiana: But most things should work on all devices22:26
* SturmFlut currently has eight unfinished articles in the pipeline :/22:27
k1lSturmFlut: that is the spirit of OSS :p22:27
kalikianaSturmFlut: yeah. I think actually the other reason is it's more pragmatic, pick your topic, look for what you need, less about cataloguing things22:28
kalikianahmmm22:30
kalikiananow this is kinda lame, it looks like even tho I didn't use swipe it killed all my data....22:30
kalikianaslightly concerned now about all the pictures I had on there....22:30
tathhuäh...22:31
kalikianaunless that's the fault of the recovery tool - there was a "clear cache" option which I tried before I re-flashed22:31
tathhuso hard.. 4.5 or 5..22:32
tathhu!battle22:32
tathhudamn22:32
kalikianagreat, it really was wiped clean22:32
kalikianagreat, all texts also gone22:34
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tathhuäh, there's no more "flip case with hole" for e4.5?22:49
tathhudamn22:49
kalikianatathhu: I believe it was meant to be an exclusive item for the first buyers23:03
tathhu:-(23:04
tathhuwould like to buy one but what if no one buys my jolla.. :D23:05
tathhudamn23:05
kalikianahmmm I don't get to be lazy, phablet-network doesn't like my vpn23:06

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