[06:53] <dholbach> good morning
[07:59]  * conyoo error parsing serv.dat
[08:27] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Mailman^WPostal Worker Day! 😃
[09:43] <rvr> mardy: Good morning
[09:43] <mardy> rvr: hi!
[09:43] <rvr> mardy: Do you have a test case for cookie sharing?
[09:44] <mardy> rvr: you mean an automated one?
[09:44] <rvr> mardy: Nope, how to test it :)
[09:44] <mardy> rvr: yes, but currently it doesn't work
[09:45] <mardy> rvr: we need to fix the apparmor stuff
[09:45] <rvr> mardy: No problem, we want to add the test to the regression suite. Can you add it to the wiki, if not already?
[09:46] <mardy> rvr: we'll add it when the silo is ready to land, now it's all a bit unclear
[09:46] <rvr> mardy: Ok
[09:51] <rvr> mardy: Is there a design spec for cookie sharing?
[09:54] <mardy> rvr: nope
[10:21] <sturmflut2> Ha, didrocks has won a Samsung Galaxy from the VisionMobile survey ;)
[10:28] <sturmflut2> Are we sure that thermal management on arale works correctly? Because I used the webbrowser on 3G yesterday, and the top of the device heated up way beyond 40°C. It was almost too hot to touch.
[10:29] <sturmflut2> A process running amok on a single core can heat the whole device up to a temperature that I would consider to be dangerous.
[10:33] <Fyxi> Can I get help with building? How to build .zip file instead of .img? I want to make it flashable for samsung ;)
[10:57] <jrbt> Uh.. on http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/devices it is really "The all new BQ Aquaris E5 HD"?
[10:58] <jrbt> Bq e5 HD -> HD sure?
[10:58] <sturmflut2> jrbt: There is a "HD" and an "FHD" model of the E5, the Ubuntu Edition is the "HD" one
[10:58] <sturmflut2> Hence the codename "vegetahd"
[10:59] <jrbt> Oh ok.
[10:59] <ogra_> it does 720p ... so yes, HD :)
[10:59] <sturmflut2> This really confused me the first time I looked at it
[11:00] <Stskeeps> (qHD, HD and FHD are typical er, marketing .. terms.. indeed)
[11:00] <sturmflut2> john-mcaleely, ogra_ : Any comments to arale getting very hot?
[11:01] <jrbt> Ok thanks! so the 4G (android) version is the FHD, ok.
[11:01] <john-mcaleely> sturmflut2, I know some of the guys in taipei have been looking at it
[11:02] <john-mcaleely> I've not followed closely the last few days
[11:02] <ogra_> sturmflut2, only that you should wait til winter comes :P
[11:02] <ogra_> its a nice pocket oven
[11:02] <jrbt> uh, my Nexus 4 has better performance but ubuntu touch is more fast/optimized on this Bq?
[11:02] <ogra_> jrbt, yes
[11:02] <sturmflut2> ogra_: You mean the nuclear winter you and Snappy Skynet are going to cause?
[11:02] <john-mcaleely> LOL
[11:03] <jrbt> Ok, and ram is very useful on Ubuntu Touch?
[11:03] <ogra_> sturmflut2, nah, not nuclear ... we'll just have enough fridges taking over the world
[11:03] <ogra_> if they all open their doors the same time ...
[11:03] <sturmflut2> ogra_: Sorry, it's "nucular"
[11:03] <jrbt> I don't care about the CPU, just ram, I preload all my app for fast open
[11:12] <jrbt> Uh, there are no dev channel for the e5? (https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/)
[11:26] <tsdgeos> sil2100: do you know if Mirv is on holiday?
[11:28] <ogra_> jrbt, that looks like an oversight ... there is also none for arale (MX4) ...
[11:28] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, ^^
[11:28] <ogra_> (no ubuntu-developer images for vegeta and arale ? )
[11:29] <sil2100> tsdgeos: yes :)
[11:30] <sil2100> tsdgeos: IIRC he should be back for a week next week
[11:30] <tsdgeos> oki
[11:32] <Fyxi> hello, how to build zip instead of img using ubuntu touch porting guide?
[11:36] <ogra_> Fyxi, why would you want that ?
[11:37] <ogra_> Fyxi, just flash boot.img and recovery.img ...
[11:37] <Fyxi> i am trying to give a try of porting ubuntu touch to my device (there is port but it's kinda outdated and old)
[11:37] <Fyxi> yeah but it's samsung - i must use odin/heimdall to flash it
[11:37] <ogra_> right
[11:38] <Fyxi> just interested
[11:42] <Fyxi> i was asking because this older port was using .zip files for flashing.
[11:42] <Fyxi> And it was not my port so i don't know how he/she did it
[12:22] <morphis> ogra_: do you know if there is any documentation in the wiki about the boot process?
[12:22] <morphis> like the different configurations, the involvement of the recovery etc.
[12:22] <morphis> or anyone else maybe?
[12:23] <ogra_> there are some bits, but not everything is documented
[12:23] <ogra_> i once wrote https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ContainerArchitecture ... a little outdated though
[12:24] <morphis> hm, ok
[12:24] <ogra_> recovery isnt involved in the boot process
[12:24] <ogra_> only in installation and upgrades
[12:25] <morphis> yes, I am looking into LP 1419928 and try to get those bits sorted
[12:25] <ogra_> the main part of the boot is done via the initrd
[12:25] <ogra_> ah
[12:25] <ogra_> yeah, for that you want to look at the system-image script in recovery indeed
[12:25] <morphis> yeah
[12:26] <morphis> I am thinking about how to manage that the best way with the different configurations we have
[12:26] <ogra_> https://code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb?p=CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery.git;a=blob;f=system-image-upgrader;h=cd2e5039f9a300c2e74cbb9d5b8bfab275da1909;hb=518dd4d01b35998dd921a1562b253963bbd860bc
[12:26] <morphis> yeah
[12:26] <ogra_> that used to be sergiusens' domain in the past
[12:27] <morphis> basically for the format part we have to differentiate the different configuration if I am write .. those where we can format the partition and those where we have to use rm to keep the .img files
[12:27] <morphis> ogra_: :)
[12:27] <ogra_> (most of the options there also need an equivalent in ubuntu-device-flash)
[12:27] <ogra_> well, essentially you only need to proplery wipe the userdata partition
[12:28] <ogra_> (i would simply format it ... and if you want offer an advanced option that also zeroes it (with a warning that this takes long))
[12:29] <ogra_> the readonly partition doesnt really need anything here ... and img files should live in /cache which i wouldnt touch
[12:29] <john-mcaleely> jrbt, ogra_ vegeta is in the same channel as krillin:
[12:29] <john-mcaleely> http://system-image.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu-developer/
[12:29] <morphis> ogra_: that would be simple but for the N4 for example the img files seem to live in /data
[12:30] <jrbt> john-mcaleely, Oh ok.
[12:30] <morphis> rather than /cache
[12:30] <jrbt> thanks!
[12:30] <morphis> so simple format doesn't seem to work
[12:30] <ogra_> john-mcaleely, ah, just no -proosed image then, k
[12:30] <ogra_> *proposed
[12:30] <john-mcaleely> ogra_, yeah, that might be an oversight. sil2100 ^ ?
[12:30] <ogra_> morphis, oh, yeah, the N4 still uses loop mounted images, i forgot about that
[12:30] <john-mcaleely> and no, none for arale, I think. I'll ask if that's a todo item
[12:30] <ogra_> that will be very tricky
[12:31] <morphis> ogra_: so N4 is the only one using loop mounted images?
[12:31] <morphis> and does it mount to ubuntu rootfs also through loop?
[12:31] <ogra_> well, it is the variant we used to recommend for ports
[12:31] <ogra_> so you dont need to re-partition the device and can easily go back to android
[12:31] <ogra_> none of the official phones use that setup since it eats system performance
[12:31] <john-mcaleely> I assume flo, manta and others also loopmount
[12:31] <ogra_> yeah
[12:32] <morphis> ogra_: so for non-ports its recommended to have an additional partition for the ubuntu rootfs?
[12:32] <ogra_> all nexus devicess
[12:32] <john-mcaleely> it's also just one more twist, and we don't need it on production phones
[12:32] <ogra_> not additional ...
[12:32] <morphis> john-mcaleely: right
[12:32] <john-mcaleely> I guess it will always be used by devices that wish to dual boot, and have android as the first os they use
[12:32] <ogra_> we re-use /system and resize system and data
[12:32] <ogra_> it is more a resizing thing than a re-partitining one
[12:33] <morphis> ogra_: so on N4 /system isn't touched at all? It still contains the Android image which was there before flashing ubuntu to the device?
[12:33] <ogra_> for the official phones you really should format or zero the partition ... for the others you need to find some other way i fear
[12:33] <ogra_> yeah
[12:36] <morphis> hm
[12:36] <morphis> ogra_: from what I see in the system-image-upgrader we should be able to differentiate this through the USE_SYSTEM_PARTITION switch
[12:38] <ogra_> morphis, yep, i think that should work
[12:41] <morphis> ogra_: lets see
[12:42] <sil2100> john-mcaleely: what's up?
[12:42] <john-mcaleely> sil2100, looks like there is no rc-proposed/ubuntu-developer vegetahd image
[12:43] <john-mcaleely> which is probably a small bug
[12:43] <sil2100> Ah, that channel is not operational right now
[12:43] <john-mcaleely> it's not one I use
[12:43] <sil2100> I wanted that, but then slangasek convinced me it would be unnecessary additional work for everyone
[12:43] <john-mcaleely> but it lacks symmetry at the moment - there is a krillin image there
[12:43] <sil2100> So we don't have any daily-builds for ubuntu-developer
[12:44] <john-mcaleely> fair enough
[12:44] <john-mcaleely> sounds fine to me
[12:44] <sil2100> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/ubuntu-for-devices/image-channels/ <- this should always have the list of valid channels
[12:47] <davmor2> john-mcaleely, sil2100: is it not just that the krillin channel on devel-proposed should be bq-aquaris.en not krillin.en to match rc-proposed?
[12:48] <john-mcaleely> there's that as well
[12:48] <john-mcaleely> a minor glitch in the matrix
[12:48] <sil2100> davmor2: well, yeah... slangasek wanted to wait a bit before he changes that
[12:48] <sil2100> Right now it's not consistent
[12:49] <sil2100> Since it's an old channel before we decided on the bq-aquaris.en name?
[12:49] <davmor2> indeed that's why I said it :)
[12:49] <sil2100> ...questionmark at the end was added by accident
[13:42] <peat-psuwit> My phone seems to have symptom of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/dialer-app/+bug/1442962
[13:43] <peat-psuwit> And I see that telepathy-ofono-ril-mc-plugin isn't installed on my device. Should it be installed? Or there's other reason?
[13:44] <kenvandine> Elleo, can you review my branch?  https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/events_type/+merge/263243
[13:44] <Elleo> kenvandine: sure thing
[13:44] <kenvandine> thx
[13:46] <Elleo> kenvandine: any test app that can send/receive events?
[13:47] <kenvandine> nope
[13:48] <Elleo> kenvandine: okay, added one quick comment about the code
[13:48] <kenvandine> thx
[13:49] <kenvandine> fixed :)
[13:49] <Elleo> great
[14:07] <peat-psuwit> why isn't telepathy-ofono-ril-mc-plugin in ubuntu touch image?
[14:26] <kenvandine> jgdx, i freed silo 47 and reconfigured silo 22 with the other branches
[14:26] <kenvandine> jgdx, but i'll wait to rebuild it until silo 40 lands
[14:26] <jgdx> kenvandine, thanks
[14:27] <jgdx> kenvandine, if something fails, we just skip connection type fixdesign
[14:27] <kenvandine> sure
[14:27] <jgdx> defer it to later
[14:27] <kenvandine> i threw in my AP test fix too
[14:27] <jgdx> nice! OTA5 will be juicy for USS
[14:28] <kenvandine> indeed
[14:50] <kenvandine> jgdx, have you done any manual testing of my libqofono update?
[14:50] <kenvandine> i'm building it for vivid in the PPA now, going to test the call waiting issue with that
[14:51] <kenvandine> jgdx, watching monitor-ofono, toggling call waiting isn't doing anything
[14:51] <jrbt> Uh.. The nearby scope is not available for Nexus 4?
[14:51] <kenvandine> i'm wondering if that might be something fixed upstream
[14:51] <jrbt> Or it is "Today"?
[14:51] <kenvandine> jrbt, that's different
[14:51] <kenvandine> i thought all those scopes were in the store now
[14:52] <kenvandine> but maybe not
[15:02] <jgdx> kenvandine, haven't had a chance yet. Would love to tomorrow though.
[15:02]  * jgdx bbl
[15:03] <mhall119> sergiusens: ping
[15:07] <charles> popey, ping
[15:07] <charles> popey, I'm starting to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rtm/+source/unity-notifications/+bug/1470031
[15:08] <sergiusens> mhall119: pong
[15:08] <charles> popey, is syncing with Google a necessary step for triggering this? does the problem not trigger for you if you just create a new event from the calendar?
[15:08] <mhall119> sergiusens: seb128 tells me that there's a snappy PPA where I can get tools to create snappy desktop images, can you tell me which one that is?
[15:09] <sergiusens> mhall119: I haven't synced packages yet, so you would need to wget ubuntu-device-flash from wily and dpkg -i it and also add ppa:snappy-dev/tools
[15:09] <seb128> mhall119, I didn't say that, I said the snappy ppa might have that version but I'm unsure
[15:09] <sergiusens> it will only be released next week
[15:09] <seb128> but what sergiusens said
[15:10] <sergiusens> we release the tools and stable image updates at the same time
[15:12] <Elleo> kenvandine: I'm testing that branch on the latest wily image and I'm getting a crash in the gmail app when attempting to attach a contact (attaching images works fine), is that working for you?
[15:13] <kenvandine> it did a couple days ago
[15:13] <Elleo> kenvandine: I'm just about to reflash to see if it happens on a clean image
[15:13] <kenvandine> oh wait...
[15:13] <kenvandine> i think that's a bug in the browser
[15:13] <kenvandine> i seem to recall QA running into that
[15:13] <Elleo> oh?
[15:13] <kenvandine> but i wasn't getting the same crash
[15:13] <factor> Has anyone loaded ubuntu on a HP stream 8 tablet?
[15:13] <kenvandine> during the last landing
[15:14] <Elleo> curious that it'd happen with contacts and not images
[15:14] <kenvandine> yeah
[15:14] <mhall119> sergiusens: from the wily archives or the PPA?
[15:14] <kenvandine> let me see if i can find the bug #
[15:14] <Elleo> okay, thanks
[15:14] <kenvandine> Elleo, also curious that it wasn't crashing for me
[15:14] <Elleo> yeah
[15:15] <sergiusens> mhall119: ppa works for trusty, vivid and wily; but you need the archive ubuntu-device-flash from wily
[15:15] <kenvandine> qa tested without my silo and reproduced the same thing and traced it back to a known bug
[15:16] <factor> Where is a list of supported tablets and chipsets?
[15:17] <SturmFlut> factor: Only some Nexus tablets are "supported"
[15:17] <kenvandine> Elleo, bug 1466892
[15:17] <SturmFlut> factor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Working_with_ubuntu-device-flash
[15:19] <factor> Hp stream is suppose to work , jsut did not know how well its a atom chipset not arm
[15:21] <mhall119> sergiusens: ubuntu-device-flash_0.25-0ubuntu1_i386 ?
[15:23] <sergiusens> mhall119: if you are on i386 if not amd64
[15:23] <factor> yes atom is a i386
[15:24] <factor> But does use the touch drivers etc..
[15:24] <Elleo> kenvandine: thanks
[15:24] <kenvandine> Elleo, still doesn't make sense that i don't get that crash :/
[15:27] <Elleo> kenvandine: yeah :/
[15:28] <Elleo> kenvandine: how many contacts do you have?
[15:28] <kenvandine> not sure, 500 or so?
[15:28] <kenvandine> but that would be in address-book-app anyway
[15:28] <Elleo> kenvandine: just wondering if the fact I have a lot of contacts all with pictures causes contacts to take up more memory than it does for you and maybe causes the oxide render process to get oom killed
[15:29] <Elleo> probably not that then, I have a lot less than 500
[15:38] <mhall119> sergiusens: seb128: okay, I have the wily ubuntu-device-flash installed, how do I make a personal image?
[16:04] <Elleo> kenvandine: approved that branch
[16:08] <kenvandine> Elleo, thx
[16:16] <popey> charles: sorry, was afk - do you have what you need?
[16:17] <cwayne_> oooh, soon you can write ios apps in go, I wonder if go+qml would work, and then you could have a similar codebase for an ubuntu touch + ios app
[16:17] <popey> charles: just created an event for 3 mins time to see
[16:19] <mcphail> cwayne_: I haven't used go yet. Do you find it better than C++ for a backend?
[16:20] <popey> charles: oh, hang on, I can't reproduce it because it was reverted :)
[16:20] <cwayne_> mcphail, i like it, but i don't really know c++
[16:22] <mcphail> cwayne_: does qmake support it directly or do you need to hack around?
[16:26] <cwayne_> mcphail, i've hacked around with cmake, havent looked at qmake
[16:28] <mcphail> cwayne_: learning go _and_ cmake would probably be beyond me :)
[16:28] <cwayne_> mcphail, if I could do it, so could you :)
[16:29] <mcphail> cwayne_: I'm an autotools boy. I'm using that for my builds. It is the wrong tool for the job, but at least I know it
[16:29] <cwayne_> lol
[16:30] <mcphail> what's the quote? - "When all you have is a hammer..."
[16:37] <popey> charles: however, I may have found another new and interesting bug for you
[16:53] <popey> charles: bug 1470583  (if anyone fancies trying to reproduce :)
[16:53] <charles> popey, back
[16:53] <popey> o/
[16:53] <charles> popey, I think that's a calendar-app bug, not a unity-notifications one
[16:54]  * popey adds a task
[16:54] <charles> popey, if it's just got that one event in it, can you pastebin your ~/.local/share/evolution/calendar/system/calendar.ics
[16:55] <mcphail> popey: can you set an event with no notification at all. I had to stop using the calendar app because I was getting notifications at midnight for every all-day event
[16:55] <popey> REPEAT:3
[16:55] <popey> charles: that?
[16:55] <charles> popey, yep
[16:55] <popey> gotcha
[16:56] <popey> thanks charles
[16:57] <charles> popey, nb: "This property defines the number of time the alarm should be repeated, after the initial trigger."
[16:57] <charles> popey, so if you want it to go off once, repeat should be omitted or set to zero
[16:57] <popey> makes sense
[16:58] <charles> hm, what would be the Right Thing for mcphail's bug about all-day events ringing at midnight
[16:59] <charles> what do other calendars, e.g. google, do with all-day events like that?
[16:59] <mcphail> charles: I gave up trying to debug it, as my events kept waking up my wife and she threatened to kill me
[16:59] <charles> :-)
[17:00] <charles> oh, I suspect the problem is straightforward enough, calendar-app is probably creating the reminder to go off shortly before the event's begin time, which is midnight for all-day events
[17:00] <charles> I'm just not sure what the Right Thing would be to do instead
[17:00] <mcphail> charles: yes - but it still plays even if you try to remove the reminder
[17:00] <charles> popey: ^ dyk?
[17:01] <popey> I don't know what android / ios do
[17:01] <charles> mcphail, did you file a bug for calendar-app?
[17:01] <mcphail> charles: (these are events synced with my Google calendar, if that is important. Don't know if it still happens on vivid as I have deleted all my all-day events)
[17:02] <mcphail> charles: If I get a wife-free spell I'll file it. Need to work out exactly what steps reproduce it
[17:02] <mcphail> charles: That's why I was wondering if anyone else had noticed it
[17:03] <charles> mcphail, if you can reproduce it, might want to add indicator-datetime to that ticket too. I guess calendar-app wouldn't be to blame for events that get imported from other calendars...
[17:03] <mcphail> charles: will do
[17:32] <kenvandine> jgdx, if i only have 1 sim in my krillin, should i see 2 sims in settings?
[17:32] <kenvandine> i thought we chose the single sim UI if the sim wasn't present
[17:33] <jgdx> kenvandine, nope.. new libq?
[17:33] <jgdx> we did
[17:33] <kenvandine> right now i do have the new libqofono
[17:34] <kenvandine> and i'm seeing stuff for SIM 2
[17:34] <kenvandine> in phone and celluar
[17:34] <jgdx> we check the present flag, maybe check that?
[17:34] <kenvandine> without a SIM inserted
[17:34] <kenvandine> what's interesting is with just one sim in it, we do toggle voiceCallForwarding properly
[17:34] <kenvandine> but it doesn't when 2 sims are present
[17:35] <kenvandine> Present = 0
[17:35] <kenvandine> for ril_1
[17:36] <kenvandine> but the UI is stull showing both sims
[17:36] <jgdx> ui code might need a revisit
[17:36] <kenvandine> yeah...
[17:36] <kenvandine> it's not just under phone
[17:36] <kenvandine> cellular too
[17:36] <kenvandine> i'm sure this worked before!
[17:37]  * kenvandine downgrades libqofono to verify this bug is only with 2 sims
[17:37] <jgdx> with .70 it does
[17:37] <kenvandine> jgdx, does what?
[17:37] <jgdx> work :)
[17:37] <kenvandine> you mean only show the single sim ui?
[17:37] <jgdx> i use krillin with 1 sim all the time
[17:38] <kenvandine> i was talking about the call waiting bug :)
[17:38] <jgdx> oh
[17:38] <kenvandine> but still
[17:38] <kenvandine> interesting...
[17:38] <kenvandine> i see Present = 0
[17:38] <kenvandine> for ril_1
[17:38] <jgdx> hm
[17:38] <kenvandine> and Present = 1 for ril_0
[17:38] <kenvandine> but still see the dual sim UI
[17:39] <kenvandine> jgdx, also... fwiw... i have silo 22 with your call forwarding branch installed
[17:40] <kenvandine> jgdx, ok, confirmed with libqofono 0.70 i see the single sim UI
[17:40] <kenvandine> maybe a race condition with 0.79
[17:41] <kenvandine> voiceCallWaiting changing works fine with 0.70 too with just 1 sim
[17:41] <kenvandine> it's only busted with 2 sims
[17:43] <kenvandine> jgdx, well crap... switched back to 0.79 and now i see the single sim UI again
[17:43] <kenvandine> maybe the one time i saw the dual sim UI was a race of some sort
[17:43] <SturmFlut> ogra_, ondra, john-mca` : Do we have pre-built android boot images with debugging kernels for our production devices?
[17:45] <kenvandine> jgdx, do you know if there is a way to enable more verbose debug output from libqofono?
[17:45] <kenvandine> or do i need to rebuild it with some debug output added?
[17:45] <ogra_> SturmFlut, no
[17:56] <SturmFlut> ogra_: Damn, then I have to build and boot my own kernel, which didn't work last time
[18:20] <kalikiana> hmmm how would I get into the bootloader for the purposes of flashing these days?
[18:20] <kalikiana> I bricked my device and can't boot normally anymore
[18:20] <kalikiana> I can't seem to get in there
[18:22] <kalikiana> hmmm fastboot seems to be doing something
[18:24] <peat-psuwit> Can something in android container set system time?
[18:58] <kalikiana> "yay", failed to enter recovery...
[19:00] <SturmFlut> ogra_, ondra: Is there a full list of steps needed to build a working kernel from https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5.git and get it booted? I built the kernel and updated boot.img, but it won't boot on the device.
[19:10] <VincentInPC> hello, anyone can tell me if succeed in sync of contacts from Owncloud? I've a self signed certificate and it seems impossible!
[19:30] <kalikiana> hmmm
[19:30] <kalikiana> after 5 times still stuck
[19:30] <kalikiana> no idea if that image ever was successfully flashed
[20:00] <ondra> SturmFlut public krillin kernel repo has all you need, kernel code, how to build and how to create boot image
[20:00] <ondra> SturmFlut it should have all you need
[20:02] <SturmFlut> ondra: You mean https://github.com/bq/aquaris-E4.5 ?
[20:02] <anpok_> hm really?
[20:03] <SturmFlut> Because that one has no instructions on how to build the boot image, and it's the one I can't get booted
[20:04] <ondra> SturmFlut yeah, choose ubuntu master
[20:04] <ondra> SturmFlut check ubuntu master branch
[20:06] <SturmFlut> Damn those branches ;)
[20:07] <VincentInPC> No one succeed in syncing contacts ?!
[20:08] <VincentInPC> I've deleted all mines, help me please :X
[20:08] <VincentInPC> any name, any mail address to contact?
[20:10] <SturmFlut> VincentInPC: I think there are some guys on the ubuntu-phone mailing list
[20:11] <VincentInPC> do you know them or do I need to subscribe it?
[20:14] <SturmFlut> VincentInPC: It's most likely better to subscribe
[20:15] <SturmFlut> Stupid Internet takes ages to pull stuff from github today :/
[20:23] <VincentInPC> SturmFlut: is it this one ?  mail ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net
[20:23] <ondra> SturmFlut :)
[20:25] <SturmFlut> VincentInPC: Yes
[20:32] <VincentInPC> " Policy: You must be a team member to subscribe to the team mailing list. "
[20:32] <VincentInPC> what doest it mean ?
[20:32] <VincentInPC> SturmFlut: *
[20:34] <pmcgowan> VincentInPC, you can just add yourself to the team and mailing list
[20:34] <SturmFlut> VincentInPC: Oh, really? I never noticed
[20:34] <VincentInPC> Oh ok I've suscribed from launchpad.net
[20:34] <VincentInPC> thank you guys =)
[20:35] <pmcgowan> VincentInPC, and regarding contacts, I sync mine with google fine, was that what you were trying to do?
[20:36] <VincentInPC> yes but with my own owncloud server, meaning I'm using a selff signed certificate
[20:37] <VincentInPC> and as always all developers make me shit with that
[20:37] <pmcgowan> ah ok
[20:37] <VincentInPC> (I always don't understand the problem with self signed certificates while I'm warned of what I'm doing, because no HTTPS is very very bad than that !=
[20:38] <VincentInPC> anyway
[20:39] <SturmFlut> ondra: Thank you SO much. Booted immediately.
[20:40] <SturmFlut> Now to enable all the interesting things!
[21:04] <SturmFlut> mzanetti: Ping
[21:17] <popey> alecu: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/web/ubuntu-webapps-guide/ the wording for --store-session-cookies looks wrong to me
[21:17] <popey> alecu: "When enabled, the session is kept active until the phone reboots."
[21:17] <popey> is that right?
[21:19] <alecu> popey: looks wrong to my untrained eyes, so I think we should ask somebody on dbarth's team to check it :-)
[21:20] <alecu> I think it should read: "the session is kept active *even after* the phone reboots"
[21:21] <popey> oh yeah, duh, sorry.
[21:21] <popey> I keep pinging you incorrectly
[21:33] <dobey> alecu: i think the intent is that "while user phablet is logged in" is the "session" there. so session cookies resetting on reboot makes sense in that respect
[21:33] <mcphail> Heh - you can't download the Open App Store directly from the phone browser. Rather ironic
[21:34] <popey> well either way, it doesn't actually seem to work for html5 apps
[21:34] <popey> using webapp-container
[21:35] <dobey> popey: ah, no idea how it's actually implemented :)
[21:35] <popey> saves to an sqlite db called cookies
[21:35] <popey> it seems
[21:35] <dobey> mcphail: eh, it's a modicum of protection between installing a random app package from the internet, and totally breaking your phone :)
[21:35] <popey> or rather, doesn't
[21:35] <dobey> heh
[21:37] <jpastore> hi! I was considering installing ubuntu touch on my phone. 1 wiki said the note 2 was not really operational naother said it seemed to work fine. Anyone have experience with a note 2?
[22:20] <kalikiana> for the benefit of anyone else possibly running into this.. it's worth double-checking the recovery.img used for flashing... the fact that "unable to enter recovery" is both a valid and a meaningless error at different times doesnn't help realizing if that file is erroneous
[22:20] <kalikiana> (I got a new copy from http://sturmflut.github.io/ubuntu/touch/2015/05/05/hacking-ubuntu-touch-part-1-ubuntu-device-flash/)
[22:22] <SturmFlut> Yay, another customer served!
[22:22] <tathhu> Maaybe it's time to jump in to Ubuntu-boat
[22:22] <tathhu> Jolla HW </3
[22:23] <SturmFlut> New post: "Mediatek details: SoC startup", http://sturmflut.github.io/mediatek/2015/07/02/mediatek-details-soc-startup/
[22:25] <kalikiana> SturmFlut: indeed, your blog came in incredibly handy. one reason for that seems to be that the wiki doesn't even list krillin... although in fairness you don't try to cover dozens of funky devices so maybe different audiences
[22:26] <SturmFlut> kalikiana: I only write about things I can test on my own devices, which are krillin and arale at the moment
[22:26] <tathhu> Anyone ordered bq lately?
[22:26] <SturmFlut> kalikiana: But most things should work on all devices
[22:27]  * SturmFlut currently has eight unfinished articles in the pipeline :/
[22:27] <k1l> SturmFlut: that is the spirit of OSS :p
[22:28] <kalikiana> SturmFlut: yeah. I think actually the other reason is it's more pragmatic, pick your topic, look for what you need, less about cataloguing things
[22:30] <kalikiana> hmmm
[22:30] <kalikiana> now this is kinda lame, it looks like even tho I didn't use swipe it killed all my data....
[22:30] <kalikiana> slightly concerned now about all the pictures I had on there....
[22:31] <tathhu> äh...
[22:31] <kalikiana> unless that's the fault of the recovery tool - there was a "clear cache" option which I tried before I re-flashed
[22:32] <tathhu> so hard.. 4.5 or 5..
[22:32] <tathhu> !battle
[22:32] <tathhu> damn
[22:32] <kalikiana> great, it really was wiped clean
[22:34] <kalikiana> great, all texts also gone
[22:49] <tathhu> äh, there's no more "flip case with hole" for e4.5?
[22:49] <tathhu> damn
[23:03] <kalikiana> tathhu: I believe it was meant to be an exclusive item for the first buyers
[23:04] <tathhu> :-(
[23:05] <tathhu> would like to buy one but what if no one buys my jolla.. :D
[23:05] <tathhu> damn
[23:06] <kalikiana> hmmm I don't get to be lazy, phablet-network doesn't like my vpn