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diddledanhere we go00:00
diddledanhas the world ended?00:00
shaunoyes00:00
diddledanwell it seems to have killed monsterkiller00:04
diddledanit's a good job I'm not known as honeymonster in here :-p00:05
diddledanlooks like it might have killed irc.mozilla.org00:07
diddledanI've been disconnected and can't reconnect00:07
diddledanok it's back00:07
shaunoseriously?00:08
diddledanyes, serials!00:09
diddledanand now my itunes is beachballing. oh the woe!00:14
zmoylan-pihow many tb of media is in your itunes library?00:14
diddledan0.03?00:15
diddledanI'm assuming you meant TB rather than Tb00:15
zmoylan-piwhen i used mac i found itunes was ok as long as you only had a few gigs of media.  once you went over a tb it got iffy and crashed a lot more00:17
diddledanyeah I've only got 0.03TB tho00:18
zmoylan-piso maybe itunes just really sucks now :-)00:18
shaunomine's somewhere around 35,000 songs00:19
shaunobut yes, itunes has always sucked.  and consistently got worse.  it's trying to do far too many jobs.00:21
zmoylan-piand itunes on windows seems to have had a higher level of suckage00:21
shaunoheh, to put it mildly00:21
diddledanspeaking of apple - the steve bobs movie is due in octember apparently?00:22
* diddledan adds it to his "I might watch at some point. surprise me by magically appearing in my plex media server"00:23
shaunono idea00:23
shaunoI haven't even thought about november yet.  I have way too much going on this summer00:23
zmoylan-pibut it's so close to christmas!! :-D http://www.xmasclock.com/00:42
shaunooh don't get me started :|00:42
shaunowe're having a mess at work because I want to go away for christmas.  I've worked the last 9 in a row.  but no-one else wants to take it00:43
diddledanshauno: they got too used to you doing it that they assumed you would again?00:45
zmoylan-piput santa down on the roster for christmas00:46
diddledan"Update 2 5:35 p.m. Pacific Time: It appears the Beats 1 radio station is currently experiencing an outage and is unavailable for some listeners. Attempting to play the station results in an unknown error. "00:46
zmoylan-pidamn leap second?00:47
diddledanlets blame that00:47
shaunohm.  it's not unknown here.  says Cannot Parse: This data is damaged, incomplete or incompatible00:47
diddledanmozilla's irc is bouncy00:49
zmoylan-pimy pi abides :-)00:49
shaunoget mozilla.org to host their irc on your pi?00:49
diddledanshauno: you're right about itunes with apple music being a UI/UX-trainwreck00:56
zmoylan-piif it forces them to drop some of the cruft from various mozilla projects it might not be a bad idea00:56
diddledanthere's no obvious reason why the "itunes store" is separate from the "new" tab (what does "new" actually mean anyway?)00:56
diddledanI can't see why there's no way to add items to your library from the store tab using your subscription00:57
diddledanI do like the new windows background image tho (unrelated, but meh)00:59
daftykinsdiddledan: o001:04
diddledandaftykins: scrollback reveals all, but new build 1015901:04
daftykinsja i have an away log01:06
daftykinstbh i installed then had to go out XD so i've not seen anything01:06
diddledanif you don't want to look for the blog, it's at http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/30/whoa-another-pc-build/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter01:06
daftykinslooks like i checked at the wrong time01:08
zmoylan-pibeuller.... beuller.... beuller....02:31
diddledanI posted a feature request: https://windows.uservoice.com/forums/265757-windows-feature-suggestions/suggestions/8655949-custom-boot-logo-animation02:44
* zmoylan-pi makes note to add suggestion for a completely new ui with no similarity to previous oses... :-P03:07
diddledanzmoylan-pi: isn't that Ubuntu-Touch's remit?03:08
zmoylan-pinah windows has the patent on random changes that annoy everyone03:08
diddledanwin10 is actually really nice03:13
zmoylan-pithat's just the stockholm effect kicking in after all the years of unity on ubuntu :-D03:14
diddledanso itunes on my mac is busted completely03:17
zmoylan-piit's apple's way of telling you that you need a shiny new computer03:25
diddledanapple aren't going to catch me that way :-p03:32
zmoylan-pinot after the last 5 times? :-)03:39
diddledan5 times bitten, twice shy03:45
mappsuh oh05:16
mappsalnost sleep time05:16
mappsand its hot as usual05:17
mapps1.9/10 maybe il avoid this film05:33
knightwisemorning peeps06:05
diddledanallo06:05
knightwisehey diddledan ; how are ya today06:06
diddledanI'm good ta06:07
shaunowhat on earth are you still doing awake?06:07
diddledan:-p06:07
diddledanyou're still awake, too06:07
* knightwise just got up06:08
mappsyo06:12
mapps;]06:12
diddledan"black work" is tantalising06:21
diddledanjust finished watching last sunday's episode06:21
diddledansheridan smith is wow06:22
diddledan<306:22
diddledanoh dear. it's mailman day06:22
diddledanfirst one has arrived for hampshire@mainman.lug.org.uk06:23
diddledanmailman**06:23
diddledanpopey: you like crowdfunding, right?07:07
SuperMattso does Greece, aparently07:07
diddledancraziest campaign of the week goes to: "Greek Bailout Fund" on indiegogo07:09
diddledanyeah, SuperMatt , you beat me07:09
diddledanunfortunately indiegogo appears to be overwhelmed right now07:09
SuperMattyeah, I was just checking it myself and was about to ask if anyone else saw it as down07:10
diddledanhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/greek-bailout-fund07:10
diddledanpeople laughed at ubuntuphone's 32million target. that's a far cry from this campaign's target of 1.6beeleon07:11
diddledanthey've raised 575,459euro in 2 days07:11
SuperMattI think it's tongue in cheek, but damn, they're doing quite well for a joke07:11
diddledanI'll laugh if they reach their target07:15
diddledanbut audacity sometimes works07:16
SuperMattwell I'd laugh too because of all those silly rewards that they'd be beholden to07:16
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shaunoI found the other day that there's a donation page for the US deficit too.  except that one's on an actual .gov, which makes it less funny and more o_O07:21
knightwiseanybody ever used links ?07:22
diddledanknightwise: as in the text-mode web browser? I have if so07:22
knightwisedo you have any idea how to copy a url ?07:22
diddledanerm07:23
diddledanno07:23
shaunocontext?07:23
shaunoohh, the console browser?  on mine I have to hold alt while I'm mousing07:23
knightwiseSay i have a link to the torrent file that i would like to copy over to transmission-cli07:23
knightwiseah found it07:26
shaunoI think I'd just turn the status bar on07:27
knightwiseyou can select the torrent client in setup07:27
shaunoI use elinks, not sure how similar it is, but I set up a protocol-handler for magnet:07:29
shaunomakes the whole thing near-invisible07:29
MooDoohowdy all07:52
diddledanm0007:54
SuperMattsup?07:54
diddledanhmm soup sounds like a good idea07:58
knightwisehot spicy chicken soup07:59
diddledanooh now you're talking!07:59
davmor2Morning all08:20
MooDoomorning davmor208:21
davmor2MooDoo: I'm worried Deeply dippy is the song stuck in my head this morning08:25
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Mailman^WPostal Worker Day! 😃08:27
davmor2It's definitely Mailman day08:29
davmor2I had my email to prove it08:29
bashrc_deeply dippy about deeply dippy?08:33
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MooDoolol09:00
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:06
diddledanallo09:07
brobostigonmorning diddledan09:14
JamesTaitBlimey, the jet engine in the server has kicked in early this morning.09:19
MooDooJamesTait: yeah the ones i have are bloody loud at the moment glad they are outside in the garage09:20
JamesTaitMooDoo, so is mine. Right behind me. 😉09:21
diddledanJamesTait: heatwave issues?09:24
diddledanit's wimbledon fortnight. where's the rain?!09:24
shaunoover here :(09:24
diddledansomeone ordered the wrong weather!09:24
diddledanI blame michael fish09:25
diplodiddledan: Just had a few drops of it here, although it's still swelteringly hot!09:29
* diplo forecasts a thunderstorm soon09:29
JamesTaitShowers here tomorrow, according to the Today Scope. ☺09:30
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:35
bigcalmdavmor2: VM had pushed new firmware to my superhub which reset it to be a wifi hub not modem only.09:35
diddledanbigcalm: sucky09:36
davmor2bigcalm: nice09:36
bigcalmYeah. At least it's good to know why something is not working rather than have to complain to VM that they are broken09:36
bigcalmWhy is this called a socket? I would have thought it's a plug: http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/6a-side-entry-euro-socket-jp19v09:38
bigcalmIs it based upon the metal pins rather than the plastic casing?09:38
diddledanbigcalm: sockets are always female09:39
diddledanI suppose that's an odd case09:39
diddledanthe unit itself is a plug but the pins are socketed09:40
diddledanit's a safety thing that it's made that way tho09:40
diddledanside-entry sounds sooo ohmyy09:41
bigcalm:D09:41
bigcalmYes09:41
diddledanso the greek bailout fund is up to 712k09:43
diddledanonly another 1.5993billion to go09:54
diddledanshauno: have you heard about xhyve yet?09:57
bashrc_:)09:57
diddledanshauno: https://github.com/mist64/xhyve09:57
foobarryanyone on talktalk got a good deal off them lately??10:03
sebsebsebbhi10:21
sebsebsebbanyone around?10:21
popeyof course10:21
sebsebsebbok :)10:21
sebsebsebbso my Meizu Ubuntu Phone just came a little while ago10:21
sebsebsebb,but10:21
sebsebsebbinvoice says it's the Gold one as it's meant to be,  but the box says it's the silver one on the label10:21
sebsebsebbso it seems they sent wrong one10:22
popeyhave you contacted them?10:22
sebsebsebbI tried to phone just now, but that wouedn't go through, I'll email soon10:22
bigcalmSounds like a supplier issue, not an Ubuntu one10:22
sebsebsebbbigcalm: yes indeed10:22
sebsebsebb,but just saying here really10:22
sebsebsebbpopey: Silver one10:23
sebsebsebbwill look nice to10:23
sebsebsebbmaybe better in a way really,  but  still wanted Gold10:23
popeyisnt it just a plastic cover?10:23
sebsebsebbpopey: is it best to keep the box shut  with hte plastic still on?  I guess so if  going to maybe send it back10:23
popeydunno10:23
popeynever sent a phone back10:24
popeyask meizu10:24
sebsebsebbpopey: no me either and I probably won't with this one to   now, but it's still wrong colour if10:24
sebsebsebbpopey: yeah it's just mainly a colour I guess like your saying,  and  easy enough mistake to make if both are near I guess to send other one.10:25
* sebsebsebb should go back to trying to prepare his speech more properly10:26
* sebsebsebb is probablly doing a speech tommorow10:26
sebsebsebbpopey:   did you order a Meizu?10:27
popeynot yet10:27
popeyi already have one10:27
sebsebsebboh you got one free from Canonical?10:27
popeywell, it's Canonical's not mine10:27
popeyi ordered a bq e4.510:28
diddledane45 is a beauty cream :-p10:28
sebsebsebbyeah  I know you got a e4.510:28
diddledanso owning an e45 phone makes you pretty?10:28
popeyYes.10:28
diddledan:-p10:28
zmoylan-pimethinks you're overestimating the ability of a moisturiser... :-P10:29
diddledanzmoylan-pi: so the phone just gives you soft skin?10:29
diddledanit's all those radiations I guess10:30
sebsebsebbpopey: that Canonical Meizu you'll probably get to keep it though?10:30
zmoylan-pino superpowers whatsoever10:30
popeydunno10:31
popeyI might pick up an e5 at some point10:31
* sebsebsebb might be a e5 soon since....10:31
sebsebsebbbuy above10:31
* sebsebsebb might buy a Windows 10 convergence phone to, (no joking)10:32
sebsebsebboh and let's get a Iphone to whilst at it, no I have no interest in having a iphone10:33
foobarrythe sun's gone behind cloud!11:44
foobarryi want my money back!11:44
zmoylan-pibut if the cloud goes away so does all your data!!11:46
* popey turns the air con off for a bit11:57
Laneyooh, big boom12:11
Laneycould we be getting a storm?12:11
LaneyOHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHH12:17
knightwisehey Laney12:17
knightwisehow's your touchpad treating you ?12:18
knightwise(on your XPS13) .. (cuz otherwise that sounds just plain creepy)12:18
Laneydoesn't have palm detection12:18
Laneyso a bit annoying until you get used to avoiding touching it12:18
Laneythe space repeating issue is far worse for me12:18
knightwiseLaney: i got that fixed with the bios update and a patch12:18
LaneyI'm on A0412:19
Laneywhat patch?12:19
knightwiseask the guys over at #xps13 .. they know which patch (its a dell patch)12:19
Laneydon't you have the link?12:19
knightwisenot with me unfortunately12:19
Laneyok12:19
bigcalmNetwork switch still does not fit, despite using a right angled mains lead. Bother12:35
diddledanbigcalm: anglegrinder12:35
bigcalmTempting to see if we can cut a chunk out of the back of the network cabinet12:37
bigcalmI even put the ears on backwards12:44
bigcalmMaybe I can move the vertical struts forwards12:45
zmoylan-piyou could make your own lead with bits from maplins.  might give you more flexibility?12:45
TwistedLucidityRemember to arrange the mortgage before going to Maplins12:45
zmoylan-piyou can get the bits cheaper else where but sometimes having them right there is easiest12:46
bigcalmzmoylan-pi: did that so that I could do a right angle plug12:46
bigcalmWe have a Maplin 2 min walk from the office in town, quite handy12:46
davmor2bigcalm: use some plastic tubing an longer screws ;)12:48
bigcalmo.O12:49
zmoylan-pican you mount unit in tack diagonally?12:49
bigcalmEven wondering if I can relocate the mains socket on the switch12:49
zmoylan-pi*rack12:49
bigcalmBut that might be a touch odd12:49
bigcalmzmoylan-pi: not sure my boss would go with that idea12:50
zmoylan-pior your boss can splash out on new rack? :-D12:50
bigcalmYeah, I have mentioned that and he said no12:50
bigcalmWhich is irritating12:50
zmoylan-pidiagonal it is :-P12:50
davmor2bigcalm: http://www.rackmountsolutions.net/standoff_rack_extender.asp12:51
bigcalmdavmor2: nice idea. The door wouldn't close on the cabinet though12:52
davmor2bigcalm: that the expensive version of my idea of a bit of plastic pipe and longer screws :)12:53
zmoylan-piput switch on roof of rack and cover with camoflage net... :-)12:54
bigcalmThere are lots of options. But to get what the boss really wants means spending monies on a new switch. But I don't know if there is even a switch that does what we want at such a shallow depth12:54
davmor2bigcalm: what's actually stopping it from going back far enough?12:54
bigcalmdavmor2: the back of the network cabinet12:55
bigcalmAnd then the wall that it's mounted to12:55
davmor2bigcalm: how much addition room do you need?12:55
diddledanI just reminded myself of "I'm so ronery": https://youtu.be/UEaKX9YYHiQ12:56
diddledangreek bailout is over 800k13:01
knightwiseoh boy13:19
knightwisehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuqkrFurek013:19
knightwisei was looking for some star trek fan fic but .. this is bad13:19
diddledanknightwise: it looks like it was recorded on vhs13:23
zmoylan-pivhs covered up a multitude of sins... :-)13:24
zmoylan-piand wires13:24
diddledanyeah that really is terrible13:25
diddledanI can't watch any more13:26
knightwiseand there are others out there that are realy realy good..13:26
knightwisenot this one unfortunately13:26
diddledanlol13:26
knightwiseStar trek Continues for example is quite good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJf2ovQtI6w13:32
knightwisethe guy who plays scotty is in fact james doohans sun13:36
knightwiseson13:36
zmoylan-pican't we just name a sun after james doohan?13:37
knightwisezmoylan-pi: that would also be appropriate13:37
zmoylan-piand a 1000 years from now the scotty empire will rise... :-)13:37
* bashrc_ likes Star trek Continues13:56
knightwisecool bashrc_ , the first and second episode is awesome14:04
knightwisethey even have lou ferringo14:04
knightwiseas a guest star14:04
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knightwisehmmm... anyone know a good command line bittorrent client ?14:59
knightwisei'm looking at transmission-cli but its kinda hard to spot the differences between transmission cli and transmission remote cli15:00
bigcalmknightwise: any reason why it needs to be cli? Transmissiond is the one I use with a web interface15:02
knightwiseThen i have to open up a port from the outside. I was thinking of doing it over ssh from the command line15:06
knightwisemy synology has a web based torrent client15:06
diddledanknightwise: transmissiond with transmission-remote on the same system using loopback15:07
diddledanknightwise: the difference between transmissiond+transmission-remote vs transmission-cli is that the -cli doesn't go into the background when your terminal disappears15:08
knightwiseah ok  , but that is not a problem. I leave the terminal window open via byobu15:10
diddledanand even bigcalm's suggestion of webinterface would work over ssh - just forward the port from your local system when you ssh into the server and you'll be able to access the webinterface without exposing it to the network15:10
knightwisediddledan: true;15:10
diddledanyour JSON is malformed :-p15:10
knightwisebut sometimes I like to do it the geeky way :) + then i can use it off my phone should i need to .15:10
diddledanit should be { diddledan: true }15:11
diddledaneven better would be to quote the "diddledan" :-p15:11
shaunodiddledan.slap()15:11
diddledanso that would be { "diddledan": true }15:11
knightwisethere are no limits to your nerdism15:12
knightwise:)15:12
diddledanteehee15:12
shauno(I do -daemon and -remote too)15:12
diddledanshauno: you didn't define a slap() function on the object diddledan15:12
shaunooh trust me, it's documented.15:13
diddledanlol15:13
shaunoI'm not the first one that's needed that one :)15:13
diddledanbe honest, you wrote the spec15:13
knightwisebasically I can do transmission-cli .. and when i'm done I just close the window (and make sure that the uploads stop)15:13
diddledanhttps://youtu.be/aEr6K1bwIVs15:17
shaunoI mostly prefer -remote because I fire it from elinks.  This way I can return to the page before the download is finished15:17
knightwiseah , shauno , that i can understand15:25
diddledanthe greece bailout is nearly at 1meeleon15:33
daftykinsugh :P15:36
diddledanmorning daftykins15:36
daftykinshallo!15:36
diddledansorry, I don't understand german15:36
shaunowell, there's some sense of scale.  the payment they missed was e1.5bn15:36
diddledanhallo == german for something15:36
daftykinsthen how did you know it was German?15:36
daftykins:O15:36
daftykinsoy at my bedroom being 80F / 28C overnight15:37
diddledanouch15:37
diddledantis hot indeed15:37
diddledancortana says it's 31C here15:38
diddledanright now15:38
daftykinsO_O in the outdoors?15:38
diddledanthat'll be in the shade15:39
zmoylan-piin cortanas server room, in your country, in your city, in your gchq monitoring station?15:39
knightwiseah :) Star trek Continues episode 4 :)15:39
diddledanhttps://www.bing.com/search?q=Weather&ts=1435765172122&nclid=eYGtqq56IvybpVMajJPw3Q==15:39
shaunothey don't need monitoring stations on islands.  they just have two little old ladies who know everyone's business.15:39
daftykinsi don't know about you guys but i make a point of not using any voice recognition tech15:40
shaunoI want to, but I haven't found anything that can grok my accent15:41
zmoylan-pivoice recognition and irish accent is a swing and a hiss15:42
shaunoluckily that's one accent I don't have :)15:42
daftykinsXD15:42
daftykinsmmm-mmm, peshwari naan left over from last night's curry, for a late late late lunch15:43
zmoylan-piand as someone who uses public transport i don't want to have to beat some gobdaw who's talking to their phone the entire trip15:43
daftykinstoo true15:43
shaunowell, I wouldn't use it in public anyway.  there's a wrong place for almost every tech, doesn't mean discounting the whole thing15:44
zmoylan-piprobably a god send for disabled but apart from a few places like kiosks and receptions it should not be used in public15:45
zmoylan-pior office cubicles15:45
daftykinsjust noticed they called me Deve on last nights curry order15:48
daftykinsclose enough15:48
diddledandeve?15:48
diddledanthat's a random15:48
shaunodevekins15:48
daftykins:>15:49
zmoylan-pipoor devekins didn't get their curry last night...15:49
shaunoI usually use John for things like that.  I'll usually respond to it, and most countries in europe can figure it out15:49
diddledanI like bert15:49
daftykinswhat if someone else has that idea? :)15:49
diddledanI think the best one to use is cholmondely15:50
zmoylan-pigiving the name psycho makes deliveries faster :-P15:50
daftykinsdiddledan: Mr. Warner?15:51
diddledanindeed15:51
diddledanwould love to hear what "random call centre" pronounces that as15:52
daftykinsi had no idea what he was saying for so long15:52
ChunkzZhas ALL of the uk got a heatwave?16:31
ChunkzZI'm burnt!16:31
zmoylan-piscotland?16:32
daftykins:D16:32
ChunkzZnah, west midlands. I look like a lobster!16:59
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diddledanChunkzZ: lightly browned or burnt to a cinder?20:04
diddledangreek bailout now stands at ~1.3meeleon20:17
diddledanerr20:17
diddledanlet me type that again20:17
diddledangreek bailout now stands at 1.13meeleon20:17
foobarryhttp://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Vulcan-Bomber-photobombs-happy-couple-s-wedding/story-26816218-detail/story.html20:18
diddledanI think that's photoshopped :-p20:23
* diddledan mutters something about parallax20:24
diddledan<-- clever ol' stick!20:24
diddledanparallax mutterings prove my cleverness20:24
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
daftykinshey guys, just been network cabling...22:51
daftykinsMY FRIDGE22:51
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ewxsl3e2t1na6m/AABRwvabCWsS_03wGG2h81R-a?dl=022:51
daftykinsXD22:51

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