[06:54] <agent47> Hi.
[06:55] <agent47> How can I build unity 7 from source on ubuntu desktop 15.04?
[06:56] <agent47> I followed the intructions on the web page but when I do make install it gives me an error "cannot create directory /pam.d"
[06:57] <agent47> if I do sudo make install it works fine, but when I test it I cannot login to my desktop any more until I delete ~.compiz-1 folder.
[08:03] <tsdgeos> cimi: mzanetti: why textarea instead of textfield on https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/previewcommentinput/+merge/262959 ?
[08:12] <mzanetti> no clue... I had a textfield and cimi wanted to change it
[08:13] <mzanetti> cimi, did Paty say it needs to be multi-line?
[08:25] <tsdgeos> ok, done with https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/previewcommentinput/+merge/262959
[08:25] <tsdgeos> lots of nit-picking, sorry :D
[08:46] <mzanetti> MacSlow, moin moin
[08:46] <MacSlow> mzanetti, greetings
[08:46] <mzanetti> https://code.launchpad.net/~macslow/unity8/launcher-icon-wobble/+merge/262355/comments/660374
[08:46] <MacSlow> mzanetti, looking into it
[08:49] <cimi> mzanetti, yes
[08:49] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, ^
[08:49] <tsdgeos> me?
[08:49] <mzanetti> that's why it is a TextArea
[08:50] <mzanetti> it needs to expand to multiple lines
[08:50] <tsdgeos> ah
[08:50] <tsdgeos> that yes was a bit disconnected from my brain
[09:07] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: is date on the "social-comment" widget mandatory?
[09:11] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, dunno. i'd say make it optional
[09:11] <tsdgeos> cimi: mzanetti: ↑ ?
[09:12] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, nb, the spec says it's a subtitle that displays date&time
[09:12] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, so it should be a generic 'subtitle'
[09:13] <tsdgeos> sure, my main question is if it should be optinal or not
[09:13] <tsdgeos> and if it's not there the comment should move up
[09:13] <tsdgeos> or just leave empty space
[09:14] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, not sure, patriciadavila may want to answer that?
[09:15] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, how is it going with inline music playback? is the new qml component that supports playlists available yet?
[09:15] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: the code is done, but there's no backend, so yes/no
[09:15] <tsdgeos> and obviously the code is done over some assumptions on the api work as i think it works
[09:16] <tsdgeos> needs testing
[09:16] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, what backend?
[09:16] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: qtmultimedia
[09:16] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, ah, ok.. who is working on it?
[09:16] <mzanetti> optional works for me... I guess it's paty's call in the end
[09:16] <tsdgeos> jhodapp
[09:16] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: ↑
[09:17] <patriciadavila> pstolowski, tsdgeos: subtitle is optional - in this particular case is used for displaying date and time due to the nature of the content (for a social comment, that info is relevant), now, if scope author decide not to include a subtitle, can we move the 'summary' bit up rather than leaving empty space?
[09:17] <MacSlow> mzanetti, wrt unity9-launcher-icon-wobble... the reason CI failed is because "libunity-api-dev (>= 7.98)" can't be satisfied yet, as lp:~macslow/unity-api/launcher-icon-wobble (is top approved) is not yet merged to lp:unity-api.
[09:18] <tsdgeos> patriciadavila: we can move it up yes, is that want we/you want?
[09:19] <mzanetti> MacSlow, no
[09:19] <mzanetti> MacSlow, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210350312/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.unity8_8.10%2B15.04.20150630.1-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:19] <mzanetti> MacSlow, come on, please fix it, I'd like to move on with this silo
[09:19] <mzanetti> it's blocked for a week already because of this branch
[09:20] <patriciadavila> tsdgeos: if there's not subtitle (date & time info) available, yes, we shall move it up :)
[09:20] <tsdgeos> patriciadavila: ok, thanks for the confirmation :)
[09:20] <patriciadavila> tsdgeos: great, thank you!
[09:21] <MacSlow> mzanetti, ah... ok
[09:30] <cimi> tsdgeos, I will tweak the branch then
[09:31] <cimi> tsdgeos, and rename it to subtitle
[09:31] <tsdgeos> oki
[09:31] <cimi> tsdgeos, also, shall we keep social-comment or call it comment?
[09:32] <tsdgeos> cimi: if scopes call it social-comment we call i tsocial comment :)
[09:32] <cimi> tsdgeos, how do they call it? :D
[09:33] <tsdgeos>  case "social-comment": return "PreviewSocialComment.qml";
[09:33] <cimi> tsdgeos, they don't have a name yet
[09:33] <cimi> tsdgeos, I wrote that :D
[09:33] <tsdgeos> well it's a name right there, no?
[09:33] <tsdgeos> you wrote that without coordinating with pstolowski?
[09:33] <cimi> tsdgeos, he said, propose something
[09:33] <cimi> tsdgeos, the branch is up to discussion
[09:33] <cimi> tsdgeos, I linked to him to to review
[09:34] <tsdgeos> ok, i don't have an opinion tbh
[09:34] <tsdgeos> anything works :D
[09:37] <pstolowski> i'd keep it as generic as possible, so maybe just 'comment'?
[09:40] <cimi> ok
[11:07] <mzanetti> seb128, hey, the new OOBE spec: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pZ-Ro--2eaRzjZKNRoYAeDvQHMkCuyvVuPFWFQfPW4s/edit#
[11:07] <mzanetti> seb128, could you please have a look at page 48 and comment on that?
[11:07] <mzanetti> I'm not sure we can do this
[11:07] <seb128> mzanetti, about to go for lunch but doing that after, sure
[11:08] <mzanetti> seb128, sure, no rush
[11:08] <mzanetti> ltinkl, fyi ^
[11:14] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: so no need to change anything for the 40-50 on the BQ?
[11:14] <tsdgeos> or still need the 21?
[11:14] <tsdgeos> a bit confused by the text
[11:14] <mzanetti> I see
[11:14] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, I don't think you need to change anything for krillin
[11:14] <mzanetti> I'll update the text
[11:14] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: oki
[11:16] <tsdgeos> sigh
[11:17] <mzanetti> that doesn't sound good
[11:17] <tsdgeos> deb packages unusable
[11:17] <tsdgeos> because they're for wily
[11:17] <tsdgeos> :/
[11:17] <mzanetti> yeah... figured that too
[11:19] <tsdgeos> let's manually copy the files over...
[11:19] <tsdgeos> tooling \o/
[11:29] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: can't seem to pull the greeter from right?
[11:29] <mzanetti> uh oh
[11:29]  * mzanetti tries
[11:30] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, indeed. will fix
[11:30] <mzanetti> greyback, hey, approved revision disappeared: https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity-api/app-state-handling/+merge/258643
[11:31] <greyback> mzanetti: yeah he rebased, which confused LP. I re-approved after that
[12:52] <jhodapp> pstolowski, trying to wrap background playlist support up by next week
[13:20] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i asked a few questions on https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/autopkgtests/+merge/258027 but i guess it's better if we do it live :D
[13:23] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, yes... but don't have the time for this right now...need to land some other things first
[13:24] <tsdgeos> ok
[13:24] <tsdgeos> no worries
[13:24] <tsdgeos> that branch is usless anyway probably since all the tests fail anyway :D
[13:24] <tsdgeos> now that we decided not to run them on CI
[13:25] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, ci will come back beginning of next week, at least that's what I've been told
[13:25] <tsdgeos> :)
[13:25] <pstolowski> jhodapp, ack, thanks. will we make it for the upcoming ota freeze?
[13:25] <jhodapp> pstolowski, trying to make it
[13:26] <jhodapp> pstolowski, if it's stable enough it will make it
[13:28] <pstolowski> jhodapp, k, thanks
[13:28] <pstolowski> mzanetti, tsdgeos ^
[13:28] <pstolowski> mzanetti, tsdgeos do you have a moment for HO?
[13:28] <tsdgeos> i do
[13:28] <mzanetti> yes
[13:30] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, mzanetti https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gvkczj7rdc2jj6ltws7vqf43wea?authuser=1&hl=en
[14:53] <mzanetti> greyback, will you land daniel's branches that involve qtmir?
[14:53] <greyback> mzanetti: yeah. But i'm waiting for a mir landing first
[14:54] <mzanetti> greyback, ack, also please let me do the current unity8 landing first
[14:54] <greyback> mzanetti: ok
[15:14] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ping
[15:35] <mzanetti> tsdgeos, pong
[15:35] <mzanetti> sorry, have been in a hangout
[15:35] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: don't worry i actually figured out what i needed :D
[15:35] <mzanetti> cool
[15:44] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: give https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/40-50-90-dash/+merge/263536 a try?
[15:45] <mzanetti> trying
[16:33] <dandrader> mzanetti, is https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/40-50-90/+merge/263488 meant for merging or just for putting in a silo for testing?
[16:34] <mzanetti> dandrader, I'm afraid we're gonna have to land it, temporarily at least
[16:35] <mzanetti> dandrader, do you disagree with it? or just asking if you should review it?
[16:36] <dandrader> mzanetti, because if we're going to land it, it will need a thorough review and all
[16:36] <dandrader> mzanetti, and Alberts branch sounded like it was just meant for tests
[16:36] <dandrader> s/tests/testing
[16:36] <mzanetti> dandrader, I always have to touch stages, launcher and greeter
[16:36] <dandrader> "trying it out"
[16:37] <mzanetti> dandrader, because the edgedragareas need to reach the physical edge
[16:37] <dandrader> mzanetti, oh, this sucks
[16:38] <dandrader> :(
[16:38] <mzanetti> dandrader, and maybe we even need to dynamically change it. i.e. if the gallery app displays a fullscreen picture, it would get real fullscreen
[16:39] <dandrader> mzanetti, hmmm crazy
[16:39] <dandrader> mzanetti, so maybe the borders would belong to ApplicationWindow instead of the whole shell?
[16:39] <dandrader> mzanetti, like laucnher would come from the actual corner whereas dash would have those black margins
[16:42] <mzanetti> dandrader, wouldn't that leave empty space between the launcher and the app?
[16:43] <mzanetti> seems even weirder
[16:44] <dandrader> mzanetti, it would, if the gap is wider than launcher itself
[16:44] <mzanetti> dandrader,and the panel?
[16:45] <mzanetti> either the launcher and the panel wouldn't align, or the panel and the app
[16:45] <mzanetti> that wouldn't work out I think
[16:45] <dandrader> mzanetti, well, the whole "black borders" idea is crazy anyway. hard to find a sane compromise
[16:46] <mzanetti> indeed
[17:02] <seb128> mzanetti, that googledoc, page 48, on which point do you want me to comment? the encryption from a settings/oobe perspective?
[17:02] <mzanetti> seb128, that, but more the "set up a password but then still do autologin and ask the password when installing an app"
[17:02] <mzanetti> seems to me that doesn't really fit into what we have right now
[17:04] <seb128> mzanetti, I guess that would be changing the polkit auth but then we need some auth UI for touch
[17:04] <mzanetti> yeah. and support in settings to do the same thing I guess
[17:38] <mzanetti> dandrader, I wonder why we don't have an arale deviceconfiguration
[17:40] <dandrader> mzanetti, because it didn't exist by the time shellRotation was started :)
[17:40] <mzanetti> haha
[17:40] <mzanetti> dandrader, how is it set?
[17:40] <dandrader> mzanetti, what do you mean?
[17:41] <mzanetti> if I would add one for arale now, where do I specify that it picks that on arale?
[17:41] <mzanetti> ah that comes from libandroid-props
[17:41] <mzanetti> I remember now
[19:31] <olli> bschaefer, if I wanted to experiment with a legacy app on touch, what would be the best route to do that?
[19:31] <olli> can I just add a ppa to the phone, install packages and pray?
[19:31] <olli> ;)
[19:54] <ChrisTownsend> olli: Hey, I've been working on that stuff.  Seems the Xmir & Mir interaction is broken right now, so I think you won't get very far.
[20:01] <olli> ChrisTownsend, is that in 15.04 or 15.10?
[20:01] <olli> I'd be happy w/ 15.04 ;)
[20:02] <ChrisTownsend> olli: 15.10.  I have a PPA that *might* work for 15.04.
[20:03] <ChrisTownsend> olli: I'm trying to find it.
[20:04] <olli> ChrisTownsend, ok
[20:05] <ChrisTownsend> olli: Hmm, yeah, so I have https://launchpad.net/~unity8-desktop-session-team/+archive/ubuntu/legacy-x-apps-demo and the xorg-server in there has the XMir support.
[20:07] <ChrisTownsend> olli: Hmm, you said touch which is arm, right?
[20:07]  * bschaefer sees ChrisTownsend handled the question
[20:07]  * bschaefer was eating lunch
[20:08] <ChrisTownsend> bschaefer: :)
[20:08] <bschaefer> i was about to say ChrisTownsend would know more :)
[20:11] <olli> ChrisTownsend, so how would I get that running on my phone, in u8 of course ;)
[20:13] <ChrisTownsend> olli: Yeah, it won't run.  I suggest you talk to willcooke about doing that since he did that stuff for MWC.
[20:13] <olli> ok