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mazalMore oom05:58
Kiloshi mazal  barrydk  inetpro  MaNI  Squirm  and others05:59
mazalHow goes ?05:59
Kilosgood ty and you?05:59
mazalOkish05:59
Kilosis the lappy fixed?05:59
mazalYeah it connected straight away this morning , so don't know what was it's problem yesterday06:00
Kiloslol06:00
mazalOnly thing I did before I left yesterday was to remove and retype the password in the config. Maybe there was a typo there yesterday06:00
mazalWith my spelling and typing it is highly likely06:01
Kilosaha06:01
Kilosi try copy paste everything ,especially if peeps give links or commands06:01
Kilosand you blamed me and my kde06:02
Kilossies man06:02
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:05
MaNImorning06:05
mazalIs your kde Kilos !!06:06
mazalMust be lol06:06
mazalmorning ThatGraemeGuy , MaNI06:07
Kiloslol06:07
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy  06:07
mazalThatGraemeGuy agrees :)06:07
Kiloshaha06:07
Kilosoh ami ThatGraemeGuy  does the little guy sleep on his back?06:08
ThatGraemeGuyhe sleeps wherever he likes06:08
ThatGraemeGuysome mornings i find him curled up in a ball at the foot of the bed, blankets and pillow piled in the opposite corner06:09
ThatGraemeGuyhe's very strange06:09
ThatGraemeGuylike his mommy06:09
ThatGraemeGuy:-D06:09
Kiloslol06:09
ThatGraemeGuybut yeah, mostly he does sleep on his back or on his side06:10
Kilosi was thinking if he slept on his back then the coughing at that early hour could be from post nasal drip06:11
Kilosthen you gotta cough your lungs clear06:11
Kiloshappens to me06:12
mazalI sound like a tractor every morning , but I know why06:12
ThatGraemeGuyit pretty much is, if i prop him up and he's still sleepy enough then he'll go back to sleep and it stops in 5 minutes06:12
Kilosbut if you sleep on your side then you can delay the coughing till wake up time06:12
mazalKilos: Just one thing left to figure out06:13
Kilosyes mazal  ?06:13
mazalWhy my prntscrn doesn't activate the snapshot app06:13
Kilosdid you got to that 20 things to do after installing kubuntu 14.0406:14
mazalProblem is not the FN function , the rest works ( screen brightness etc. that is also working with that key )06:14
Kiloss/got/go06:14
mazalThe one you gave me ?06:15
mazalThat is all done06:15
Kilosok06:15
mazalExcept the ones I don't want like skype for ex06:15
Kilosthere is a place you can see and change keyboard shortcuts06:15
Kilosin settings06:16
Kiloslike i use ctrl+t to open konsoles06:16
mazalYou mean I must map print screen to another key ?06:17
Kilosmost likely or even map it to the print screen key06:17
mazalI know how to map apps to keys , but how do you map a command like print screen ?06:18
Kilosi dont know about kde but ubuntu has a slightly different iso for lappies and desktops06:18
ThatGraemeGuysince when? :-o06:18
mazalReally ?06:18
ThatGraemeGuyno, not really, he's confused06:19
mazalWhat app can I test webcam with ?06:19
ThatGraemeGuysudo apt-get install cheese06:20
Kiloswhen i got an iso from the toaster back in 10.10 i think it was the fresh install looked different from the desktop download06:20
ThatGraemeGuyyou realise that was 5 years ago06:20
ThatGraemeGuywhich is 57 years in Internet time06:20
Kilosoh my06:20
mazalInstalling cheese06:21
Kilosso there is no diffs?06:21
mazalAnd for some reason now lus for a toasted cheese sandwich :P06:21
ThatGraemeGuylol06:21
Kiloswbb06:23
mazalAg nee , a system restart is required06:24
Kiloshaha06:27
Kilosnice fast reboot06:30
mazalNah , is slow06:30
mazalLaptops can't come close to desktop pc's performance06:30
Kilosnormally konversation takes a while to see peeps06:30
Kilosspecs?06:31
mazali706:31
Kilossjoe lekker06:31
Kilosram?06:31
mazalpc was much faster though , always is06:31
* mazal tries to find the system info06:32
mazal4gig ram , I wanted to see the gen of the cpu , but system info don't show it06:33
mazalI suspect 3rd gen06:34
Kilosi forget all those commands06:34
Kiloslshw06:34
ThatGraemeGuylol06:38
ThatGraemeGuythere are plenty of quick laptops06:38
Kilosim waiting for ian to come visit, he says he has an i5 i can use for loadshedding 06:39
Kilosneed to buy a battery though06:40
ThatGraemeGuyand don't forget an SSD06:40
ThatGraemeGuybattery life++06:40
ThatGraemeGuyI can use my laptop 5-6 hours easy06:40
ThatGraemeGuyand its nearly 2 years old already06:41
Kilosonce i have a working lappy then i can saved for a ssd06:41
Kiloswow06:41
ThatGraemeGuyspinning rust HDDs are massive power hogs06:41
Kiloslol they dont rust inside man06:43
Kilosthey spotless inside\06:43
ThatGraemeGuy(not meant literally, duh)06:44
Kiloslol06:44
Kilosmoving parts are hogs though ya06:45
Kilosshh is same like ram right06:45
Kilosssd06:45
MaNIsimilar but keeps data when powered off and not as fast :p06:46
ThatGraemeGuylol06:46
Kilosah is ram actually faster06:47
ThatGraemeGuyi.e. similar except completely different06:47
ThatGraemeGuyexponentially faster06:47
Kilossjoe06:47
ThatGraemeGuyram is your first upgrade when you're going "waaaahhh! my PC is slow"06:47
MaNIsadly yes, or else we could all just have giant ssd swap partitions and go crazy :)06:47
ThatGraemeGuysecond is put in an SSD06:47
ThatGraemeGuythird, there is no third, that's all you need06:47
Kiloslol06:47
ThatGraemeGuyand no, you don't need a new CPU06:48
ThatGraemeGuywe've been through that, the case is closed06:48
MaNIbigger CPU cache never hurts :)06:48
* ThatGraemeGuy leaves06:48
Kilosi have other things eating cash before i get faster pc stuff06:48
Kiloslike soldering station06:48
Kilosthen battery for lappy06:49
barrydkMorning everyone06:59
mazalOom Kilos , do you have a volume control on you bar at the bottom ?07:01
mazalI don't find one07:01
Kilosya07:01
Kilosopens when you click it07:01
Kiloskmix i think it is07:01
mazalThere is no icon , and there is no widget I can add07:01
mazalThis is strange07:02
Kilosai!07:02
Kilosthere must be a way07:02
mazalGot it07:02
Kiloshaha07:02
mazalI think I checked and tested everything for now07:03
Kilosgood then just use it , dont look for things to break07:04
mazalOnly thing still not working is the multimedia buttons07:04
mazalOr shortcut buttons I should say07:04
mazalVolume up and down works. Email and internet doesn't07:05
Kiloswhat internet?07:05
Kiloshow can email work anyway without internet07:06
mazalThe sortcut buttons. This laptop has buttons at the top with shortcut to different things07:06
Kilosai!07:06
mazalemail , internet , wi-fi , mute , volume up , volume down , calculator07:06
Kilosoh actually i am using a genius keyboard that has some extra buttons too07:07
mazalThe 3 that must launch apps ( email , internet and calculator ) doesn't work07:07
Kiloswww is one of them07:07
pieter2627morning all07:30
Kilossorry, ran out of data07:55
grembleGood morning08:32
Kiloshi gremble  Cryterion  08:32
CryterionMorning08:49
Kiloshi kulelu88  08:50
kulelu88Hello08:51
LangjanHi Kilos 09:53
Kiloshi Langjan  hoe gaan dit ?09:54
LangjanAls wel dankie en met jou?09:54
Kilosgoed dankie09:54
LangjanMooi so! Help asb...09:54
Kiloswat het jy gebreek?09:54
Kiloshaha09:54
Langjanniks nie, lmga09:54
Kilosvra maar laat ons sien 09:55
LangjanHow do I configure Libre Office to do special characters via keyboard? 09:55
Kilossjoe09:55
Kilosdoesnt your compose key work there09:56
Langjanek dog jy weet...?09:56
Kilosek weet als behalwe wat ek vergeet het09:56
LangjanMine woks via right alt but I cant remember how I got there09:56
Langjanworks09:56
grembleI think that it is supposed to work by default09:56
Kiloshmm... you on unity09:57
grembleIt is standard behaviour for text editors and wordprocessors09:57
Kilosi have set mine as the left windows key09:57
KilosLangjan  http://askubuntu.com/questions/70784/how-can-i-enable-compose-key09:58
LangjanOk thka let me go there. QWill get back if dont come right09:58
grembleWelp. Apparently I was mistaken09:58
Kilosanytime sir09:58
Kilosgremble  i can almost call him oom09:59
kulelu88oom and oupa09:59
Kiloshaha he is 8 years and 2 months older than me10:00
Kilosif i leave off the 2 months he jumps on me10:00
grembleYou've mentioned that Kilos haha10:03
LangjanOk Kilos many thanks, its sorted. And you're a star as always, dankie baie van Oompie, ek het my vriend daarmee gehelp. 10:03
LangjanThks also gremble 10:04
Langjantake care you guys10:04
grembleHaha I didn't do anything except say dumb things :P10:04
grembleTake care Langjan 10:04
Kiloshaha he is doing a great job spreading ubuntu amongst the ballies10:06
Kiloshi drussell  hows davey?10:06
kulelu88We're still waiting on gremble and the tuxlug10:06
Kiloskulelu88  you are with the jozilug peeps right?10:07
kulelu88not formally, but I try to hulp hulle10:07
kulelu88remember hulp and help in school in afrikaans. That was like a killer-feature of afrikaans10:08
grembleYou used it incorrectly though :P10:08
Kiloswe discussed in a meeting that we need to work closer with lugs10:08
gremblehulp is the noun and help is the verb10:08
gremblekulelu88: I forgot about that :x I'll get on it next semester10:09
drussellKilos: yoyo :o) good thanks, you?10:09
grembleIt'll go on my to-do board10:09
Kilosgood ty drussell  10:09
kulelu88next semester ... said every student ever!!!10:09
grembleHaha10:09
Kilosmaybe i should make some smileys for all the times i forget10:10
Kilos:) :D10:11
gremble8-|10:11
kulelu88omg, Kilos is using emotes. #nolook10:11
kulelu88say hellooo to my leeetttllle friend: (⌐■_■)--︻╦╤─ - - - (╥﹏╥) 10:12
kulelu88pew pew pew10:12
grembleMy grandmother has started using whatsapp. Whenever she sends me a message it is with a nonsensical emote10:12
gremblehaha10:12
kulelu88whatsapp is basically the facebook of this decade. Everyone has it 10:12
Kiloshaha10:13
gremble#telegram4lyfe10:14
grembleI really like telegram actually10:14
grembleI especially like that fact that it is has a native PC client10:15
kulelu88You do know you can't trust telegram either right?10:15
grembleCan't trust shit10:15
grembleBut I am not going to write my own messaging app and I need to communicate with people10:16
kulelu88try an app called blackphone or something similar10:16
grembleI know of blackphone, but thats not an app iirc. It's an entire environment10:17
kulelu88leme find the name of it for you10:17
grembleBlackphone is an entire phone10:17
grembleI also know that the first one was compromised on def con10:17
kulelu88gremble: https://whispersystems.org/10:18
grembleAn enhanced privacy feature is the fact that if I use that to communicate, I would have no one to communicate with10:20
grembleIt does look nice though10:20
kulelu88hahahaha. exactly. always the problem with mass-scale10:22
inetprogood mornings10:22
grembleHey inetpro 10:23
grembleOdd that you are awake kulelu88. I thought you only came out late at night. I was starting to suspect that you were a wearwolf or wanpire10:24
kulelu88gremble: I am suffering from time-adjustment issues. I slept at 10pm last night and awake since 6am this morning10:25
grembleHaha10:25
grembleIt is always a pain that if you go to sleep at a reasonable time, you tend to wake up at such a time10:25
kulelu88yeah and this weather is not conducive for bowel-relief, at any time of day10:26
grembleYou should take a blanket with to keep your legs warm10:30
kulelu88ehh I'll get an anxiety attack carrying a blanket in the pot10:32
grembleScared you'll poop on it?10:33
kulelu88it just doesn't feel natural10:34
kulelu88blanket in the loo10:34
grembleYou say that10:38
grembleBut I don't think you've ever tried that10:38
mazalkulelu88: Not everyone , I removed whatsapp long ago already10:43
kulelu88my nokia doesn't support any modern apps, so I'm stuck with whatsapp :P10:44
mazalI am still old school , cheap old fone that can call and sms and that's it10:44
kulelu88only problem is that, that is expensive10:45
mazalI only use it when it's neccesary , don't even go over R60 per month. I am not like others glued to the phone all day10:45
mazalIf I wonna chat I do it with pc.10:46
mazalAnd if I wonna have a conversation I go visit my friends and actually have contact with them10:47
kulelu88You use R60 a month??? :O I use R15 :D :D :D10:47
kulelu88campus teaches you to be a miser!!!10:47
mazalThis so called social media is actually anti-social media. People don't even visit each other as much anymore10:48
mazalA family sits at the table and each one is busy on his fone. Nobody even talk to each other10:48
kulelu88mazal: sometimes I think people don't like other people coming to their house also. cause entertaining is hard these days. gotta make so much food/variety/etc10:48
grembleFamilies have been ignoring eachother for much longer than cellphones have been around10:49
kulelu88:D :D10:49
Kiloslol10:49
mazalYou don't need to "entertain". My nicest longest chats with friends was over just cookies and coffee10:49
kulelu88You know what was really fun though. Was a code-retreat I went for. Loads of coffee and pair-programming10:50
MaNIprogrammer coffee stereotype makes me cringe :(11:14
gremblebleh11:15
grembleIf I didn't know better I would say my bandwidth is being throttled11:15
magespawngood afternoon11:21
grembleHey magespawn 11:32
Kiloshi magespawn  11:34
grembleDid you get complements on your fantastically shined shoes?11:35
Kilosrofl11:35
SquirmGood day people12:05
grembleHey Squirm 12:13
Kiloshi Squirm  12:13
magespawngremble not that kind of leather12:18
magespawnbut they are looking a lot nicer12:18
gremble"1936 - Alonzo Church also invents every language that will ever be but does it better. His lambda calculus is ignored because it is insufficiently C-like. This criticism occurs in spite of the fact that C has not been invented."12:19
grembleLol12:19
gremble"1972 - Dennis Ritchie invents a powerful gun that shoots both fowarwad and backward simultaneously. Not satisfied with the number of deaths and permanent maimings from that invention he invents C and Unix."12:22
gremblejames-iry.blogspot.nl/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-mostly-wrong.html12:28
magespawngremble: how would they compare it? os is there something i am missing12:28
magespawns/os/or12:29
gremblemagespawn: it is a joke12:29
gremblefrom the above blog12:29
grembleabout programming languages12:29
mazalBye everyone12:40
barrydkLekker slaap almal12:41
magespawngremble i see from the comments that i am not the only on that did not get it was a joke intially13:11
grembleHaha perhaps I'm just very easily entertained13:13
gremble:P13:13
magespawnit is quite funny 13:15
magespawnchat later home time bye14:03
Kilosoh my , and there is who_da_fly  14:45
Kilosbbl14:45
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Kiloshmm...16:20
Kilosmani guesting us16:21
=== Guest80390 is now known as MaNI
MaNImeh16:31
Kiloslol16:31
MaNIdon't know why it takes so long for my nick to auto release16:32
MaNII wonder if its to do with the 300+ failed attempts to steal my nick I get every day :/16:32
Kiloswow16:32
Kilosyou have registered it hey?16:33
MaNIof course16:33
Kilosthen go to #freenode and ask staff to cloak you16:33
Kilosyour ip shows still16:33
MaNII'm not worried about my ip showing16:33
Kilosi think they offer the cloak for a good reason16:34
Kilosmaybe makes it harder to get to you16:34
MaNII'm sure they do, but I'm still not worried, my computer security levels are above paranoid :p16:35
Kiloslol16:35
MaNIthe nick stealing thing is just an annoyance16:35
Kilosi got a double cloak i think16:35
MaNI -SaslServ- <sasl> failed to login to MaNI.  There have been 62 failed login attempts since your last successful login. <- I get 100s of those every day16:35
MaNIthere is no way they will ever succeed I'm using a really long keepass password16:36
Kiloswow how do you find that info?16:36
MaNIwish I could tell the person to stop trying :p16:36
Kilosis it the same guy all the time16:36
MaNIno idea how to query it - saslserv just tells me about it as it happens, so I get those messages showing up all over in my chat window :p16:36
Kiloswow16:37
MaNIwell sasl is basically a 'tor' log in service, its anonymous so there is no way of knowing16:37
MaNII mean I assume its some guy running an automated script to try get this nick but I don't know for sure :p16:37
Kilosmaybe freenode staff can find him and blacklist him16:38
Kilosit might be a bot too16:38
MaNIheh, I asked them before, they just told me to make sure I have a secure password :/16:38
Kiloslol16:38
MaNInot really a big issue just a bit annoying to see it come up all the time16:38
Kilosyeah16:39
MaNIit would take literally forever to brute force the password at this speed16:39
Kilossjoe16:39
MaNII mean it could just be some irc client on a server somewhere stuck in a loop even, same wrong password each time, who knows :p16:40
Kilosi would be able to sleep till i found it16:40
Kiloswouldnt16:40
MaNIOCD :P16:41
Kiloswhen i first joined here my nick was stolen in 2 days because i didnt know about registering even16:41
* Squirm lewks around16:42
Kiloshi Squirm  16:42
Squirmhaaai16:42
MaNIRegistered : Aug 24 00:19:08 2004 (10y 44w 5d ago) - I'd be pretty miffed if I lost it now :p16:43
Kiloswow16:43
Kilosyou been in the game a long time hey16:43
SquirmRegistered : Sep 26 21:43:41 2009 (5y 39w 5d ago)16:44
Kilosi didnt even have a pc yet16:44
SquirmYou win16:44
Kiloshow do you get that info16:44
Squirmmsg nickserv info16:44
Squirmthe a / at the beginnigh16:44
Kilosim a baby here16:45
Kilos Registered : Nov 09 21:22:49 2009 (5y 33w 3d ago)16:45
SquirmRegistered : Nov 09 21:22:49 2009 (5y 33w 3d ago)16:45
SquirmI beat you!16:45
SquirmBy 3 weeks :D16:45
Kiloshehe16:45
Kilosyou remember how i battled to get mxit going in pidgin16:46
SquirmHow could i forget ;)16:46
Kiloshaha16:46
Squirmwas that 5 years ago??16:46
Kilosyou have all been good to me16:46
Kilosyeah16:46
Kilostime flies16:46
SquirmWow16:46
Kilosyou were still in school16:47
SquirmI've only been on IRC for about 10 years now16:47
Squirm2005/200616:47
Kilossjoe16:48
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Kiloshmm...17:41
Kilosthe fly be gone17:41
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KilosMaNI  are you a ballie already too?17:50
MaNIdepends who you ask, I'm only 31 :p17:51
Kiloslol18:00
Kilosok i just wondered because you been on irc so long18:00
MaNIheh, my freenode nick is realtively new, I've been on irc since the 90s :p18:02
Kiloswhew18:02
Kilosyou were still a baby then18:03
MaNI-NickServ-   Time registered: Jan 03 11:34:40 2003 UTC <- thats my shadowfire nick18:03
MaNIbut my original registration there dropped at some point, so thats a second registration18:03
Kilossjoe18:04
Kilosyou were born a geek18:04
MaNIyeah I was born using computers :p18:04
Kiloslucky you18:04
inetproGuten Abend18:04
inetprooh and hi Kilos as well18:05
MaNImy father was a prof. eletrical engineering specializing in control engineering (which is as close to programming as you get in that sort of thing I guess)18:05
Kilosguten abend inetpro  18:05
Kiloszehr gut?18:05
inetproKilos: time is right?18:05
Kilosi forget how to spell that18:05
* inetpro coming right again18:05
Kilosyay18:05
inetpro:-)18:06
MaNIso we had computer gadgets in the house always and I was introduced to logo really young as my first 'programming language' :p18:06
Kilosyou really lucky MaNI  18:06
MaNIback then computer access was pretty rare I think18:06
MaNII mean very few of my friends has at least18:06
MaNI*had18:06
MaNImost of our stuff was 'on loan' from the uni, like occasionally we would get a cga monitor for a few days instead of a monochrome and this was an amazing thing18:07
MaNIgood times :p18:07
Kiloslol18:07
Kilosinetpro  did you chase that other guest?18:09
Kilosi was gonna ask for admin so i could kick him18:09
Kilosher/it18:09
inetproKilos: no18:11
Kilosah then hopefully all my pings chased him18:11
inetproKilos: shame!18:15
inetprowho knows, maybe he's just very shy18:16
Kilosnono peeps must have the decency to at least greet18:16
Kilosi greeted for a month18:16
inetproI don't18:16
Kilosyou dont what?18:16
inetproI don't always greet18:17
Kilosyeah man but you are part of the furniture here18:17
inetproai!18:17
Kilosand you dont ignore for a month at a time18:18
Kilosthats so rude18:18
Kilosflys server giving probs18:18
Kilosor quassel18:19
MaNIKilos, the early internet was a lot different though, a sort of naive utopia almost, so it was okay for young kids to be on the loose, I'd be a lot more nervous if I were a parent now than what my parents were probably18:20
Kiloslol18:20
MaNIit probably sounds a bit elitist or something, but most the people on it at first were in some way linked to a university or whatever, I mean as an example there weren't things like spam or captchas at first18:21
Kilosinetpro  check africa channel please18:21
inetproKilos: why?18:22
Kilosim not sure what that guywants18:23
MaNIICQ had a random chat feature which would pair you with a random partner, and people would actually talk and be interesting etc. stuff like that doesn't work anymore because its all just spam and pedos and stuff, so the popularity brought a lot of change both good and bad :p18:23
Kilosai!18:23
inetproKilos: and you want me to magically know the answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe, and Everything else?18:25
MaNImy icq list had literally hundreds of random people I met and not one of them was a pedo or spam bot or anything weird, anyway can't bring the past back so enough of that :p18:25
inetproKilos: lucky for you I do know the answer to that18:25
Kilosyes inetpro  or work your way to full enlightenment18:25
inetproit's 4218:25
ThatGraemeGuyI still remember my icq number :-o18:25
MaNImine as well, not one of my contacts still exists though :p18:26
Kilosinetpro  i dunno what he means by the portal18:27
inetproKilos: ask18:27
Kilosnono man i am not allowed to be stupid to newcomers18:27
inetproai!18:27
Kilosthat would chase potential customers18:28
Kiloswb MaNI  18:30
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Kilosuh oh18:30
Kiloswooo 12 out of the 18 african countries now18:40
Guest56118thanks, not sure whats up with my net today :/19:01
=== Guest56118 is now known as MaNI
Kiloslol19:06
Kiloswhy does it call you guest not  MaNI- or something19:07
mazalNight all19:08
inetprogood night19:23
Kilosnight inetpro  sleep tight19:23
Kilosrest well19:23
Kiloshi alphad  19:26
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:37
CryterionNight Everyone20:40
grembleGetting a database set up is surprisingly complex21:59

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