[05:58] More oom [05:59] hi mazal barrydk inetpro MaNI Squirm and others [05:59] How goes ? [05:59] good ty and you? [05:59] Okish [05:59] is the lappy fixed? [06:00] Yeah it connected straight away this morning , so don't know what was it's problem yesterday [06:00] lol [06:00] Only thing I did before I left yesterday was to remove and retype the password in the config. Maybe there was a typo there yesterday [06:01] With my spelling and typing it is highly likely [06:01] aha [06:01] i try copy paste everything ,especially if peeps give links or commands [06:02] and you blamed me and my kde [06:02] sies man [06:05] mornings [06:05] morning [06:06] Is your kde Kilos !! [06:06] Must be lol [06:07] morning ThatGraemeGuy , MaNI [06:07] lol [06:07] hi ThatGraemeGuy [06:07] ThatGraemeGuy agrees :) [06:07] haha [06:08] oh ami ThatGraemeGuy does the little guy sleep on his back? [06:08] he sleeps wherever he likes [06:09] some mornings i find him curled up in a ball at the foot of the bed, blankets and pillow piled in the opposite corner [06:09] he's very strange [06:09] like his mommy [06:09] :-D [06:09] lol [06:10] but yeah, mostly he does sleep on his back or on his side [06:11] i was thinking if he slept on his back then the coughing at that early hour could be from post nasal drip [06:11] then you gotta cough your lungs clear [06:12] happens to me [06:12] I sound like a tractor every morning , but I know why [06:12] it pretty much is, if i prop him up and he's still sleepy enough then he'll go back to sleep and it stops in 5 minutes [06:12] but if you sleep on your side then you can delay the coughing till wake up time [06:13] Kilos: Just one thing left to figure out [06:13] yes mazal ? [06:13] Why my prntscrn doesn't activate the snapshot app [06:14] did you got to that 20 things to do after installing kubuntu 14.04 [06:14] Problem is not the FN function , the rest works ( screen brightness etc. that is also working with that key ) [06:14] s/got/go [06:15] The one you gave me ? [06:15] That is all done [06:15] ok [06:15] Except the ones I don't want like skype for ex [06:15] there is a place you can see and change keyboard shortcuts [06:16] in settings [06:16] like i use ctrl+t to open konsoles [06:17] You mean I must map print screen to another key ? [06:17] most likely or even map it to the print screen key [06:18] I know how to map apps to keys , but how do you map a command like print screen ? [06:18] i dont know about kde but ubuntu has a slightly different iso for lappies and desktops [06:18] since when? :-o [06:18] Really ? [06:19] no, not really, he's confused [06:19] What app can I test webcam with ? [06:20] sudo apt-get install cheese [06:20] when i got an iso from the toaster back in 10.10 i think it was the fresh install looked different from the desktop download [06:20] you realise that was 5 years ago [06:20] which is 57 years in Internet time [06:20] oh my [06:21] Installing cheese [06:21] so there is no diffs? [06:21] And for some reason now lus for a toasted cheese sandwich :P [06:21] lol [06:23] wbb [06:24] Ag nee , a system restart is required [06:27] haha [06:30] nice fast reboot [06:30] Nah , is slow [06:30] Laptops can't come close to desktop pc's performance [06:30] normally konversation takes a while to see peeps [06:31] specs? [06:31] i7 [06:31] sjoe lekker [06:31] ram? [06:31] pc was much faster though , always is [06:32] * mazal tries to find the system info [06:33] 4gig ram , I wanted to see the gen of the cpu , but system info don't show it [06:34] I suspect 3rd gen [06:34] i forget all those commands [06:34] lshw [06:38] lol [06:38] there are plenty of quick laptops [06:39] im waiting for ian to come visit, he says he has an i5 i can use for loadshedding [06:40] need to buy a battery though [06:40] and don't forget an SSD [06:40] battery life++ [06:40] I can use my laptop 5-6 hours easy [06:41] and its nearly 2 years old already [06:41] once i have a working lappy then i can saved for a ssd [06:41] wow [06:41] spinning rust HDDs are massive power hogs [06:43] lol they dont rust inside man [06:43] they spotless inside\ [06:44] (not meant literally, duh) [06:44] lol [06:45] moving parts are hogs though ya [06:45] shh is same like ram right [06:45] ssd [06:46] similar but keeps data when powered off and not as fast :p [06:46] lol [06:47] ah is ram actually faster [06:47] i.e. similar except completely different [06:47] exponentially faster [06:47] sjoe [06:47] ram is your first upgrade when you're going "waaaahhh! my PC is slow" [06:47] sadly yes, or else we could all just have giant ssd swap partitions and go crazy :) [06:47] second is put in an SSD [06:47] third, there is no third, that's all you need [06:47] lol [06:48] and no, you don't need a new CPU [06:48] we've been through that, the case is closed [06:48] bigger CPU cache never hurts :) [06:48] * ThatGraemeGuy leaves [06:48] i have other things eating cash before i get faster pc stuff [06:48] like soldering station [06:49] then battery for lappy [06:59] Morning everyone [07:01] Oom Kilos , do you have a volume control on you bar at the bottom ? [07:01] I don't find one [07:01] ya [07:01] opens when you click it [07:01] kmix i think it is [07:01] There is no icon , and there is no widget I can add [07:02] This is strange [07:02] ai! [07:02] there must be a way [07:02] Got it [07:02] haha [07:03] I think I checked and tested everything for now [07:04] good then just use it , dont look for things to break [07:04] Only thing still not working is the multimedia buttons [07:04] Or shortcut buttons I should say [07:05] Volume up and down works. Email and internet doesn't [07:05] what internet? [07:06] how can email work anyway without internet [07:06] The sortcut buttons. This laptop has buttons at the top with shortcut to different things [07:06] ai! [07:06] email , internet , wi-fi , mute , volume up , volume down , calculator [07:07] oh actually i am using a genius keyboard that has some extra buttons too [07:07] The 3 that must launch apps ( email , internet and calculator ) doesn't work [07:07] www is one of them [07:30] morning all [07:55] sorry, ran out of data [08:32] Good morning [08:32] hi gremble Cryterion [08:49] Morning [08:50] hi kulelu88 [08:51] Hello [09:53] Hi Kilos [09:54] hi Langjan hoe gaan dit ? [09:54] Als wel dankie en met jou? [09:54] goed dankie [09:54] Mooi so! Help asb... [09:54] wat het jy gebreek? [09:54] haha [09:54] niks nie, lmga [09:55] vra maar laat ons sien [09:55] How do I configure Libre Office to do special characters via keyboard? [09:55] sjoe [09:56] doesnt your compose key work there [09:56] ek dog jy weet...? [09:56] ek weet als behalwe wat ek vergeet het [09:56] Mine woks via right alt but I cant remember how I got there [09:56] works [09:56] I think that it is supposed to work by default [09:57] hmm... you on unity [09:57] It is standard behaviour for text editors and wordprocessors [09:57] i have set mine as the left windows key [09:58] Langjan http://askubuntu.com/questions/70784/how-can-i-enable-compose-key [09:58] Ok thka let me go there. QWill get back if dont come right [09:58] Welp. Apparently I was mistaken [09:58] anytime sir [09:59] gremble i can almost call him oom [09:59] oom and oupa [10:00] haha he is 8 years and 2 months older than me [10:00] if i leave off the 2 months he jumps on me [10:03] You've mentioned that Kilos haha [10:03] Ok Kilos many thanks, its sorted. And you're a star as always, dankie baie van Oompie, ek het my vriend daarmee gehelp. [10:04] Thks also gremble [10:04] take care you guys [10:04] Haha I didn't do anything except say dumb things :P [10:04] Take care Langjan [10:06] haha he is doing a great job spreading ubuntu amongst the ballies [10:06] hi drussell hows davey? [10:06] We're still waiting on gremble and the tuxlug [10:07] kulelu88 you are with the jozilug peeps right? [10:07] not formally, but I try to hulp hulle [10:08] remember hulp and help in school in afrikaans. That was like a killer-feature of afrikaans [10:08] You used it incorrectly though :P [10:08] we discussed in a meeting that we need to work closer with lugs [10:08] hulp is the noun and help is the verb [10:09] kulelu88: I forgot about that :x I'll get on it next semester [10:09] Kilos: yoyo :o) good thanks, you? [10:09] It'll go on my to-do board [10:09] good ty drussell [10:09] next semester ... said every student ever!!! [10:09] Haha [10:10] maybe i should make some smileys for all the times i forget [10:11] :) :D [10:11] 8-| [10:11] omg, Kilos is using emotes. #nolook [10:12] say hellooo to my leeetttllle friend: (⌐■_■)--︻╦╤─ - - - (╥﹏╥) [10:12] pew pew pew [10:12] My grandmother has started using whatsapp. Whenever she sends me a message it is with a nonsensical emote [10:12] haha [10:12] whatsapp is basically the facebook of this decade. Everyone has it [10:13] haha [10:14] #telegram4lyfe [10:14] I really like telegram actually [10:15] I especially like that fact that it is has a native PC client [10:15] You do know you can't trust telegram either right? [10:15] Can't trust shit [10:16] But I am not going to write my own messaging app and I need to communicate with people [10:16] try an app called blackphone or something similar [10:17] I know of blackphone, but thats not an app iirc. It's an entire environment [10:17] leme find the name of it for you [10:17] Blackphone is an entire phone [10:17] I also know that the first one was compromised on def con [10:18] gremble: https://whispersystems.org/ [10:20] An enhanced privacy feature is the fact that if I use that to communicate, I would have no one to communicate with [10:20] It does look nice though [10:22] hahahaha. exactly. always the problem with mass-scale [10:22] good mornings [10:23] Hey inetpro [10:24] Odd that you are awake kulelu88. I thought you only came out late at night. I was starting to suspect that you were a wearwolf or wanpire [10:25] gremble: I am suffering from time-adjustment issues. I slept at 10pm last night and awake since 6am this morning [10:25] Haha [10:25] It is always a pain that if you go to sleep at a reasonable time, you tend to wake up at such a time [10:26] yeah and this weather is not conducive for bowel-relief, at any time of day [10:30] You should take a blanket with to keep your legs warm [10:32] ehh I'll get an anxiety attack carrying a blanket in the pot [10:33] Scared you'll poop on it? [10:34] it just doesn't feel natural [10:34] blanket in the loo [10:38] You say that [10:38] But I don't think you've ever tried that [10:43] kulelu88: Not everyone , I removed whatsapp long ago already [10:44] my nokia doesn't support any modern apps, so I'm stuck with whatsapp :P [10:44] I am still old school , cheap old fone that can call and sms and that's it [10:45] only problem is that, that is expensive [10:45] I only use it when it's neccesary , don't even go over R60 per month. I am not like others glued to the phone all day [10:46] If I wonna chat I do it with pc. [10:47] And if I wonna have a conversation I go visit my friends and actually have contact with them [10:47] You use R60 a month??? :O I use R15 :D :D :D [10:47] campus teaches you to be a miser!!! [10:48] This so called social media is actually anti-social media. People don't even visit each other as much anymore [10:48] A family sits at the table and each one is busy on his fone. Nobody even talk to each other [10:48] mazal: sometimes I think people don't like other people coming to their house also. cause entertaining is hard these days. gotta make so much food/variety/etc [10:49] Families have been ignoring eachother for much longer than cellphones have been around [10:49] :D :D [10:49] lol [10:49] You don't need to "entertain". My nicest longest chats with friends was over just cookies and coffee [10:50] You know what was really fun though. Was a code-retreat I went for. Loads of coffee and pair-programming [11:14] programmer coffee stereotype makes me cringe :( [11:15] bleh [11:15] If I didn't know better I would say my bandwidth is being throttled [11:21] good afternoon [11:32] Hey magespawn [11:34] hi magespawn [11:35] Did you get complements on your fantastically shined shoes? [11:35] rofl [12:05] Good day people [12:13] Hey Squirm [12:13] hi Squirm [12:18] gremble not that kind of leather [12:18] but they are looking a lot nicer [12:19] "1936 - Alonzo Church also invents every language that will ever be but does it better. His lambda calculus is ignored because it is insufficiently C-like. This criticism occurs in spite of the fact that C has not been invented." [12:19] Lol [12:22] "1972 - Dennis Ritchie invents a powerful gun that shoots both fowarwad and backward simultaneously. Not satisfied with the number of deaths and permanent maimings from that invention he invents C and Unix." [12:28] james-iry.blogspot.nl/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-mostly-wrong.html [12:28] gremble: how would they compare it? os is there something i am missing [12:29] s/os/or [12:29] magespawn: it is a joke [12:29] from the above blog [12:29] about programming languages [12:40] Bye everyone [12:41] Lekker slaap almal [13:11] gremble i see from the comments that i am not the only on that did not get it was a joke intially [13:13] Haha perhaps I'm just very easily entertained [13:13] :P [13:15] it is quite funny [14:03] chat later home time bye [14:45] oh my , and there is who_da_fly [14:45] bbl === MaNL is now known as Guest80390 [16:20] hmm... [16:21] mani guesting us === Guest80390 is now known as MaNI [16:31] meh [16:31] lol [16:32] don't know why it takes so long for my nick to auto release [16:32] I wonder if its to do with the 300+ failed attempts to steal my nick I get every day :/ [16:32] wow [16:33] you have registered it hey? [16:33] of course [16:33] then go to #freenode and ask staff to cloak you [16:33] your ip shows still [16:33] I'm not worried about my ip showing [16:34] i think they offer the cloak for a good reason [16:34] maybe makes it harder to get to you [16:35] I'm sure they do, but I'm still not worried, my computer security levels are above paranoid :p [16:35] lol [16:35] the nick stealing thing is just an annoyance [16:35] i got a double cloak i think [16:35] -SaslServ- failed to login to MaNI. There have been 62 failed login attempts since your last successful login. <- I get 100s of those every day [16:36] there is no way they will ever succeed I'm using a really long keepass password [16:36] wow how do you find that info? [16:36] wish I could tell the person to stop trying :p [16:36] is it the same guy all the time [16:36] no idea how to query it - saslserv just tells me about it as it happens, so I get those messages showing up all over in my chat window :p [16:37] wow [16:37] well sasl is basically a 'tor' log in service, its anonymous so there is no way of knowing [16:37] I mean I assume its some guy running an automated script to try get this nick but I don't know for sure :p [16:38] maybe freenode staff can find him and blacklist him [16:38] it might be a bot too [16:38] heh, I asked them before, they just told me to make sure I have a secure password :/ [16:38] lol [16:38] not really a big issue just a bit annoying to see it come up all the time [16:39] yeah [16:39] it would take literally forever to brute force the password at this speed [16:39] sjoe [16:40] I mean it could just be some irc client on a server somewhere stuck in a loop even, same wrong password each time, who knows :p [16:40] i would be able to sleep till i found it [16:40] wouldnt [16:41] OCD :P [16:41] when i first joined here my nick was stolen in 2 days because i didnt know about registering even [16:42] * Squirm lewks around [16:42] hi Squirm [16:42] haaai [16:43] Registered : Aug 24 00:19:08 2004 (10y 44w 5d ago) - I'd be pretty miffed if I lost it now :p [16:43] wow [16:43] you been in the game a long time hey [16:44] Registered : Sep 26 21:43:41 2009 (5y 39w 5d ago) [16:44] i didnt even have a pc yet [16:44] You win [16:44] how do you get that info [16:44] msg nickserv info [16:44] the a / at the beginnigh [16:45] im a baby here [16:45] Registered : Nov 09 21:22:49 2009 (5y 33w 3d ago) [16:45] Registered : Nov 09 21:22:49 2009 (5y 33w 3d ago) [16:45] I beat you! [16:45] By 3 weeks :D [16:45] hehe [16:46] you remember how i battled to get mxit going in pidgin [16:46] How could i forget ;) [16:46] haha [16:46] was that 5 years ago?? [16:46] you have all been good to me [16:46] yeah [16:46] time flies [16:46] Wow [16:47] you were still in school [16:47] I've only been on IRC for about 10 years now [16:47] 2005/2006 [16:48] sjoe === MaNI is now known as Guest79724 [17:41] hmm... [17:41] the fly be gone === Guest79724 is now known as MaNI [17:50] MaNI are you a ballie already too? [17:51] depends who you ask, I'm only 31 :p [18:00] lol [18:00] ok i just wondered because you been on irc so long [18:02] heh, my freenode nick is realtively new, I've been on irc since the 90s :p [18:02] whew [18:03] you were still a baby then [18:03] -NickServ- Time registered: Jan 03 11:34:40 2003 UTC <- thats my shadowfire nick [18:03] but my original registration there dropped at some point, so thats a second registration [18:04] sjoe [18:04] you were born a geek [18:04] yeah I was born using computers :p [18:04] lucky you [18:04] Guten Abend [18:05] oh and hi Kilos as well [18:05] my father was a prof. eletrical engineering specializing in control engineering (which is as close to programming as you get in that sort of thing I guess) [18:05] guten abend inetpro [18:05] zehr gut? [18:05] Kilos: time is right? [18:05] i forget how to spell that [18:05] * inetpro coming right again [18:05] yay [18:06] :-) [18:06] so we had computer gadgets in the house always and I was introduced to logo really young as my first 'programming language' :p [18:06] you really lucky MaNI [18:06] back then computer access was pretty rare I think [18:06] I mean very few of my friends has at least [18:06] *had [18:07] most of our stuff was 'on loan' from the uni, like occasionally we would get a cga monitor for a few days instead of a monochrome and this was an amazing thing [18:07] good times :p [18:07] lol [18:09] inetpro did you chase that other guest? [18:09] i was gonna ask for admin so i could kick him [18:09] her/it [18:11] Kilos: no [18:11] ah then hopefully all my pings chased him [18:15] Kilos: shame! [18:16] who knows, maybe he's just very shy [18:16] nono peeps must have the decency to at least greet [18:16] i greeted for a month [18:16] I don't [18:16] you dont what? [18:17] I don't always greet [18:17] yeah man but you are part of the furniture here [18:17] ai! [18:18] and you dont ignore for a month at a time [18:18] thats so rude [18:18] flys server giving probs [18:19] or quassel [18:20] Kilos, the early internet was a lot different though, a sort of naive utopia almost, so it was okay for young kids to be on the loose, I'd be a lot more nervous if I were a parent now than what my parents were probably [18:20] lol [18:21] it probably sounds a bit elitist or something, but most the people on it at first were in some way linked to a university or whatever, I mean as an example there weren't things like spam or captchas at first [18:21] inetpro check africa channel please [18:22] Kilos: why? [18:23] im not sure what that guywants [18:23] ICQ had a random chat feature which would pair you with a random partner, and people would actually talk and be interesting etc. stuff like that doesn't work anymore because its all just spam and pedos and stuff, so the popularity brought a lot of change both good and bad :p [18:23] ai! [18:25] Kilos: and you want me to magically know the answer to the ultimate question of Life, the Universe, and Everything else? [18:25] my icq list had literally hundreds of random people I met and not one of them was a pedo or spam bot or anything weird, anyway can't bring the past back so enough of that :p [18:25] Kilos: lucky for you I do know the answer to that [18:25] yes inetpro or work your way to full enlightenment [18:25] it's 42 [18:25] I still remember my icq number :-o [18:26] mine as well, not one of my contacts still exists though :p [18:27] inetpro i dunno what he means by the portal [18:27] Kilos: ask [18:27] nono man i am not allowed to be stupid to newcomers [18:27] ai! [18:28] that would chase potential customers [18:30] wb MaNI === MaNI is now known as Guest56118 [18:30] uh oh [18:40] wooo 12 out of the 18 african countries now [19:01] thanks, not sure whats up with my net today :/ === Guest56118 is now known as MaNI [19:06] lol [19:07] why does it call you guest not MaNI- or something [19:08] Night all [19:23] good night [19:23] night inetpro sleep tight [19:23] rest well [19:26] hi alphad [19:37] night all. sleep tight [20:40] Night Everyone [21:59] Getting a database set up is surprisingly complex