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ovidiu-florinahoneybun: awesome, Can you link us?06:08
ahoneybunthe Manual ovidiu-florin?06:08
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: what you updated about special keys06:10
ovidiu-florinahoneybun: have you seen the questions that were posted in #kubuntu right after the show ended?06:11
ovidiu-florinthere was noone there to answer them06:11
ovidiu-florin:(06:11
ahoneybunhttps://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation#Install_Process06:11
ahoneybunyea.06:11
soeegood morn ing06:13
ovidiu-florinpeope, any sugestions to improve support in #kubuntu ?06:13
ovidiu-florinpoeple*06:13
soeedefine 'improve' :)06:14
ovidiu-florinmost of us, including me, are most likely ignoring that channel06:14
valorieI have a suggestion: more of us being there, and willing to answer questions06:15
valorieI'm not that good06:15
ovidiu-florinany kind of feedback to the users is good06:15
soeewell when i have time i'm always watching there and tryign to help06:15
ovidiu-floringreat06:15
valorielordievader and blueskaj are super06:16
ovidiu-florinyes, but they are not always available06:16
valorieit isn't at the top of my list of priorities, but I try to pay attention when I'm at the keyboard06:18
valoriebut I'm not that knowledgeable06:18
valoriewhen claydoh is around, he's great too06:18
ovidiu-florinI'll do my best to watch it more06:20
valoriethank you ovidiu-florin06:21
valorieyou are awesome06:21
ovidiu-florinLet's all become jedi in Kubuntu http://imgur.com/gallery/Jkena06:21
valoriefun, but I'd rather have a sonic screwdriver06:22
clivejoback to plasma 5.3.1 :(07:10
soee:)07:11
soeefrom 5.3.2 ?07:11
clivejoyeah07:11
clivejoplasma-desktop freaked out when I started up this morning07:11
clivejono kickoff menu etc07:12
clivejobrb need to log back in, no window controls at the moment07:12
soeehow did you instaeled it anyway when upgrades wanted to remove plasma-desktop and kubuntu-desktop ?07:12
clivejoI dont know soee07:14
clivejoit was working great last night07:14
clivejoI even thought 5.3.2 seemed faster07:14
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lordievaderGood morning.08:48
lordievadervalorie: Thanks for the praise :)08:49
valorie<308:50
valorieoh whoops, how is it almost 2am08:51
valorieniters all08:51
lordievader:P08:52
lordievaderSleep well.08:52
Riddellclivejo: about?09:04
Riddellclivejo: you forgot to add the wps patch to debian/patches/series so it didn't get applied and the wps stuff didn't get built, I've added that and put it into my ppa ~jr09:12
Riddellclivejo: your skrooge package is based on some old packaging rather than the stuff in the archive, could you re-do it using the stuff in the archive? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skrooge09:13
Riddellhttp://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-kde/kde-extras/skrooge/09:13
ovidiu-florinI'm getting reports that in Vivid there's a problem with KDE init. I can confirm this with Kompare on my system09:17
ovidiu-florinsimptoms: Open a program, plasma freezes untill you close the program09:17
ovidiu-florinwhen closed you get an error saying: KDEInit could not launch 'name of the program'09:18
ovidiu-florinsomeone reported this with LO09:18
ovidiu-florinI'd report a bug, but I don't know what against09:18
sebasovidiu-florin: kinit is a framework09:22
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blazedoes anyone know what qt version is planned for wily?10:16
soee5.4.x probably 10:36
BluesKajHi folks10:52
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Riddellhttps://community.kde.org/Akademy/2015/AllBoF when do we want a kubuntu day?11:01
Riddellovidiu-florin: I guess you can put l10n there11:01
Riddellsitter: pausing integration while I do the plasma 5.3.2 upload11:08
sitterk11:09
Riddellhttps://community.kde.org/Akademy/2015/AllBoF  how about just monday or tuesday? sitter, shadeslayer, sgclark, valorie, ahoneybun?11:15
sitterI booked till thursday because you guys led me to believe that we are having it on wednesday :@11:18
sitterRiddell: monday probably is reasonable11:19
sitternot quite so worn out11:19
sitterRiddell: we could do tuesday afternoon and wednesday morning bof perhaps. I feel that maybe someone should sit in on plasma and most definitely on wayland. that being said, I'd be fine with anything that isn't tuesday morning11:23
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I've sent an email to KDE i18n asking for time suggestions.11:25
Riddellsgclark: did you get anywhere with vivid backport of plasma 5.3.2? I realise my changes to kubuntu-automation may have messed up backport proccess12:42
Riddellplasma 5.3.2 up into wily!12:43
soeewill test later @home on fresh Wily installation on new ssd :)12:53
soeei think there is new app bugfix release already12:53
lordievaderIs the test window of plasma 5.3.2 still open?12:55
Riddelllordievader: quick test before it goes into wily!12:56
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lordievaderFirst need to get my test box back up and running, then I can test ;)12:56
santa_Riddell: you still have the same file installed in 2 different binary packages in oxygen12:59
santa_usr/share/kservices5/oxygenstyleconfig.desktop12:59
santa_see debian/liboxygenstyleconfig5-5.install and debian/kde-style-oxygen-qt5.install13:00
santa_debian placed it in liboxygenstyleconfig5-513:00
RiddellI think this hear is affecting my ability to do simple merges13:02
Riddellthanks santa_, fixed13:03
Riddellheat13:03
santa_great13:04
santa_oh, by the way13:04
santa_I found an old abi break in kdepimlibs13:05
mparillo_Is there a PPA for Plasma 5.3.2 in Wily?13:05
soeemparillo_: yes13:05
soeehttps://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma13:06
mparillo_TY. updating upgrading13:13
soeemparillo_: please report to Riddell how the upgrade went13:14
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mparillo_On this poor little netbook, I think I need !patience13:18
mparillo_Riddell: Is this a serious error: https://paste.kde.org/pjzptqklt13:20
soeemparillo_: this is probably what santa_ reported13:22
mparillo_soee: do you recommend I avoid re-starting then?13:24
mparillo_kinfocenter says I am on 5.3.2 now13:25
mparillo_without re-starting13:25
santa_mparillo_ soee: I think it is the same thing I reported, yes, he fixed it on git13:26
Riddellmparillo_: should be fixed13:35
Riddellmparillo_: dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/liboxygenstyleconfig5-5_4%3a5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa4_i386.deb13:35
Riddellooh [ubuntu/wily] ktp-text-ui 4:15.04.2-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)13:42
RiddellI wonder if that means the rest of ktp will go shortly13:42
sgclarkRiddell: just woke up, have not started.13:43
mparillo_sudo dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/liboxygenstyleconfig5-5_4%3a5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa4_i386.deb13:49
mparillo_?13:49
sgclarkRiddell: valorie: which day is Kubuntu day?13:56
lordievaderUpdating now to 5.3.213:58
mparillo_https://paste.kde.org/pacel6nzn14:00
Riddellsgclark: someone needs to pick a day14:01
Riddellmparillo_: apt -f install14:01
sgclarkahh valorie got our tickets, I don't even know how long we there lol, guess wait for her to get up14:02
sgclarkRiddell: if I dont update my automation scripts it shoudl work right? (backports)14:02
lordievadermparillo_: I got the same, running -f install now.14:03
lordievaderSeems to be allright.14:03
Riddellsgclark: yeah14:04
Riddellwell as much as it ever did :)14:04
sgclarkhehe ok, will start soon after a cup of coffee14:05
lordievaderI suppose "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kservices5/oxygenstyleconfig.desktop', which is also in package kde-style-oxygen-qt5 4:5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa4" is known?14:12
Riddelllordievader: yep, just force it14:12
lordievaderApart from that the upgrade went pretty smooth.14:13
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ovidiu-florinsgclark: can you tell me more about the BOF you want to organize?14:30
ovidiu-florinI'm very interested in making KDE applications run on Windows14:30
ovidiu-florinI have some experience with Windows development, even though I don't like it.14:31
sgclarkovidiu-florin: that part in itself will be the KDE windows guys emerge working with our CI scripts and not really the making the apps build, though that will come later haha.14:34
ovidiu-florinsgclark: so, what is your plan?14:35
ovidiu-florinCI AFAIK is Jenkins that keeps building KDE software on different platforms14:36
sgclarkI am only gathering interest14:36
ovidiu-florinand yels if something fails14:36
sgclarkovidiu-florin: I already run build.kde.org, this is only a workshop to discuss that.14:36
ovidiu-florinaha14:38
* sick_rimmit Oooooo look at all that shiny software on build.kde.org Jenkins system.. shiny nom nom14:45
mparillo_sudo apt -f install appeared to run cleanly. Now i need to re-start.14:48
mparillo_?14:50
sgclarkRiddell: I am very confused, all errors with 5.3.2 already in archive.15:06
Riddellsgclark: what what?15:07
sgclark5.3.2 for vivid15:08
clivejohi BluesKaj15:25
BluesKajhi clivejo15:29
Riddellsgclark: if it's complaining that 5.3.2 is in wily then fix the script not to complain cos you're not wily15:59
sgclarkI am checking out Kubuntu_vivd_backports16:00
sgclarkminus the typos16:00
lordievaderIs there a bug with the lock screen in 5.3.2? Somehow I cannot unlock my session. (It might have to do with synergy though)16:02
mparillo_Restarting to check the PPA for 5.3.216:02
lordievaderHmm, it might just be synergy mucking things up.16:07
clivejolordievader: how did you get around the plasma-desktop breakage?16:15
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lordievaderclivejo: What plasma desktop breakage?16:18
clivejowhen I booted this morning I had no kickoff menu16:19
clivejoplasma-desktop was removed16:19
lordievaderIt wasn't here.16:19
clivejoso I reverted have to 5.3.116:19
clivejoback to16:20
mparillo__I applied the PPA for 5.3.2, and so far have seen no immediate problems.16:20
clivejobut I was liking 5.3.2, it seemed faster16:20
mparillo__In all of two minutes of running ;-)16:20
clivejohave you rebooted?16:20
lordievaderI've rebooted a number of times.16:20
mparillo__Yes16:21
clivejoeverything was fine til I shut down and booted this mornig16:21
lordievaderPerhaps in the meantime things were fixed?16:21
clivejoperphaps!16:27
ahoneybunin Wily is Plasma not crashing as much clivejo lordievader mparillo17:01
clivejowas behaving fro me last night17:02
clivejoI actually thought it was faster, flicking between desktops etc17:02
ahoneybunI just rebooted it and it crashed in Vivid17:03
ahoneybunnot restarting on it's own17:03
clivejodid you get a login?17:03
ahoneybunyea17:04
ahoneybunmaybe17:04
clivejowhen did it crash?17:04
ahoneybunbrb17:04
ahoneybunback up17:06
ahoneybunreboot fixed it17:06
clivejo:)17:08
ahoneybunstill17:09
soeecan i burn/mount iso with windows system from kubuntu  on usb ?17:34
mparillo__Yes, I generally prefer Wily already, ahoneybun17:51
RiddellI think git-buildpackage-ppa is my nemsis in the same was as wrap-and-sort is sitter's17:52
mparillo__soee: I have used unetbootin (in the repos) to create bootable FAT USBs17:52
mparillo__I have heard it does not work with UEFI17:52
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sgclarkRiddell: looks like I did backports May 27th but you deleted them in your cleanup.18:03
lordievaderahoneybun: Plasma5 rarely crashes on me.18:05
sgclarkI remember now and all they needed was testing, but I went on vacation.18:06
sgclarkRiddell: why did you delete all that stuff? I suspect more stuff I had going before vacation is gone too18:08
sgclarkRiddell: nevermind18:20
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soeehiho20:48
soeeback on fresh Wily install and ssd :)20:49
clivejoan .sh file would be arch independant?20:55
valoriesgclark: search your email; I sent you all the ticket and reservation details when I ordered them20:56
sgclarkahh ok, thanks!20:57
valorieMonday is what we originally said20:57
valorieor gosh, I'll check my old email20:58
Riddellclaydoh: yep20:59
clivejosgclark: if I have *-data.install files and rules in that file to put the file in that package, is there anything that could override it?20:59
sgclarkclivejo: the rules file can21:00
clivejonothing in there that I can see :/21:01
EtriaphG'day folks.21:02
valoriedang, I see that originally proposed was Wed. morning, Thur. morn or afternoon21:04
valorieearlier is better i think21:04
RiddellYour decision valorie :)21:05
valorieDoodle only had Thursday21:05
valorieTue sounds better than Thursday!21:05
soeewindows boots much fatser than kubuntu on ssd :(21:06
valoriecan we get Shadeslayer to stay for Monday?21:07
valorieit seems we have not been signed up anywhere, no matter what kenny said21:08
valorieWed. after noon is the trip, so if we want to meet all day, it will be Mon, Tue or Thur21:09
valoriehow many will attend?21:10
Riddellvalorie: no idea21:17
RiddellTry Tuesday?21:17
valorieall day?21:18
valorieseems like we usually have 15-2021:18
RiddellDunno if it's that many21:21
RiddellDepends if debian dudes come21:21
mparillo__soee: Are you sure it is a true cold boot for Windows? Starting with Win8, I believe Windows has had a fast boot: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/how-windows-8-hybrid-shutdown-fast-boot-feature-works/21:22
valoriethe rooms all seem large, and the smallest already snapped up by that sneaky mgraesslin21:24
soeemparillo__: i have win7 here21:24
mparillo__Well, I made my pitch for Kubuntu. On spinning rust, they seem comparable. In fact, my nice work laptop with the usual corporate anti-virus, hard drive encryption, spyware, etc. boots about as fast as my tiny netbook.21:26
valoriehttps://community.kde.org/Akademy/2015/Tuesday#Lab_1.5w_-_28_July - we are scheduled21:27
soeealso now afer frsh install my fan is running like mad21:28
mparillo__My fan spins once my daughter loads minecraft.21:29
Etriaphsoee: My Windows 7 boot is slower than my Kubuntu boot on an SSD21:30
soeeoO21:31
soeebrb21:32
soeeback21:33
clivejocan LP sometimes fail for no good reason?22:06
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yofelye22:08
yofels22:08
clivejoI restarted it and it built ok second time round22:19
clivejowonder what happened22:19
clivejohow did we get KDEConnect into Plasma 5?22:39
clivejothe developer states it is for KDE4 only :/22:39
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