=== drawkward_away is now known as drawkward === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [06:08] ahoneybun: awesome, Can you link us? [06:08] the Manual ovidiu-florin? [06:10] ahoneybun: what you updated about special keys [06:11] ahoneybun: have you seen the questions that were posted in #kubuntu right after the show ended? [06:11] there was noone there to answer them [06:11] :( [06:11] https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation#Install_Process [06:11] yea. [06:13] good morn ing [06:13] peope, any sugestions to improve support in #kubuntu ? [06:13] poeple* [06:14] define 'improve' :) [06:14] most of us, including me, are most likely ignoring that channel [06:15] I have a suggestion: more of us being there, and willing to answer questions [06:15] I'm not that good [06:15] any kind of feedback to the users is good [06:15] well when i have time i'm always watching there and tryign to help [06:15] great [06:16] lordievader and blueskaj are super [06:16] yes, but they are not always available [06:18] it isn't at the top of my list of priorities, but I try to pay attention when I'm at the keyboard [06:18] but I'm not that knowledgeable [06:18] when claydoh is around, he's great too [06:20] I'll do my best to watch it more [06:21] thank you ovidiu-florin [06:21] you are awesome [06:21] Let's all become jedi in Kubuntu http://imgur.com/gallery/Jkena [06:22] fun, but I'd rather have a sonic screwdriver [07:10] back to plasma 5.3.1 :( [07:11] :) [07:11] from 5.3.2 ? [07:11] yeah [07:11] plasma-desktop freaked out when I started up this morning [07:12] no kickoff menu etc [07:12] brb need to log back in, no window controls at the moment [07:12] how did you instaeled it anyway when upgrades wanted to remove plasma-desktop and kubuntu-desktop ? [07:14] I dont know soee [07:14] it was working great last night [07:14] I even thought 5.3.2 seemed faster === Squt is now known as Sput === Riddelll is now known as Riddell [08:48] Good morning. [08:49] valorie: Thanks for the praise :) [08:50] <3 [08:51] oh whoops, how is it almost 2am [08:51] niters all [08:52] :P [08:52] Sleep well. [09:04] clivejo: about? [09:12] clivejo: you forgot to add the wps patch to debian/patches/series so it didn't get applied and the wps stuff didn't get built, I've added that and put it into my ppa ~jr [09:13] clivejo: your skrooge package is based on some old packaging rather than the stuff in the archive, could you re-do it using the stuff in the archive? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skrooge [09:13] http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-kde/kde-extras/skrooge/ [09:17] I'm getting reports that in Vivid there's a problem with KDE init. I can confirm this with Kompare on my system [09:17] simptoms: Open a program, plasma freezes untill you close the program [09:18] when closed you get an error saying: KDEInit could not launch 'name of the program' [09:18] someone reported this with LO [09:18] I'd report a bug, but I don't know what against [09:22] ovidiu-florin: kinit is a framework === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [10:16] does anyone know what qt version is planned for wily? [10:36] 5.4.x probably [10:52] Hi folks === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away [11:01] https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2015/AllBoF when do we want a kubuntu day? [11:01] ovidiu-florin: I guess you can put l10n there [11:08] sitter: pausing integration while I do the plasma 5.3.2 upload [11:09] k [11:15] https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2015/AllBoF how about just monday or tuesday? sitter, shadeslayer, sgclark, valorie, ahoneybun? [11:18] I booked till thursday because you guys led me to believe that we are having it on wednesday :@ [11:19] Riddell: monday probably is reasonable [11:19] not quite so worn out [11:23] Riddell: we could do tuesday afternoon and wednesday morning bof perhaps. I feel that maybe someone should sit in on plasma and most definitely on wayland. that being said, I'd be fine with anything that isn't tuesday morning [11:25] Riddell: I've sent an email to KDE i18n asking for time suggestions. [12:42] sgclark: did you get anywhere with vivid backport of plasma 5.3.2? I realise my changes to kubuntu-automation may have messed up backport proccess [12:43] plasma 5.3.2 up into wily! [12:53] will test later @home on fresh Wily installation on new ssd :) [12:53] i think there is new app bugfix release already [12:55] Is the test window of plasma 5.3.2 still open? [12:56] lordievader: quick test before it goes into wily! === soee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - 10 years of friendlyness | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Plasma 5.3.2 (Wily) ready for tests: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma/+packages | Welcome ximion! [12:56] First need to get my test box back up and running, then I can test ;) [12:59] Riddell: you still have the same file installed in 2 different binary packages in oxygen [12:59] usr/share/kservices5/oxygenstyleconfig.desktop [13:00] see debian/liboxygenstyleconfig5-5.install and debian/kde-style-oxygen-qt5.install [13:00] debian placed it in liboxygenstyleconfig5-5 [13:02] I think this hear is affecting my ability to do simple merges [13:03] thanks santa_, fixed [13:03] heat [13:04] great [13:04] oh, by the way [13:05] I found an old abi break in kdepimlibs [13:05] Is there a PPA for Plasma 5.3.2 in Wily? [13:05] mparillo_: yes [13:06] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma [13:13] TY. updating upgrading [13:14] mparillo_: please report to Riddell how the upgrade went === alvesadrian is now known as adrian [13:18] On this poor little netbook, I think I need !patience [13:20] Riddell: Is this a serious error: https://paste.kde.org/pjzptqklt [13:22] mparillo_: this is probably what santa_ reported [13:24] soee: do you recommend I avoid re-starting then? [13:25] kinfocenter says I am on 5.3.2 now [13:25] without re-starting [13:26] mparillo_ soee: I think it is the same thing I reported, yes, he fixed it on git [13:35] mparillo_: should be fixed [13:35] mparillo_: dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/liboxygenstyleconfig5-5_4%3a5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa4_i386.deb [13:42] ooh [ubuntu/wily] ktp-text-ui 4:15.04.2-0ubuntu1 (Accepted) [13:42] I wonder if that means the rest of ktp will go shortly [13:43] Riddell: just woke up, have not started. [13:49] sudo dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/liboxygenstyleconfig5-5_4%3a5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa4_i386.deb [13:49] ? [13:56] Riddell: valorie: which day is Kubuntu day? [13:58] Updating now to 5.3.2 [14:00] https://paste.kde.org/pacel6nzn [14:01] sgclark: someone needs to pick a day [14:01] mparillo_: apt -f install [14:02] ahh valorie got our tickets, I don't even know how long we there lol, guess wait for her to get up [14:02] Riddell: if I dont update my automation scripts it shoudl work right? (backports) [14:03] mparillo_: I got the same, running -f install now. [14:03] Seems to be allright. [14:04] sgclark: yeah [14:04] well as much as it ever did :) [14:05] hehe ok, will start soon after a cup of coffee [14:12] I suppose "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kservices5/oxygenstyleconfig.desktop', which is also in package kde-style-oxygen-qt5 4:5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa4" is known? [14:12] lordievader: yep, just force it [14:13] Apart from that the upgrade went pretty smooth. === tazz_ is now known as tazz [14:30] sgclark: can you tell me more about the BOF you want to organize? [14:30] I'm very interested in making KDE applications run on Windows [14:31] I have some experience with Windows development, even though I don't like it. [14:34] ovidiu-florin: that part in itself will be the KDE windows guys emerge working with our CI scripts and not really the making the apps build, though that will come later haha. [14:35] sgclark: so, what is your plan? [14:36] CI AFAIK is Jenkins that keeps building KDE software on different platforms [14:36] I am only gathering interest [14:36] and yels if something fails [14:36] ovidiu-florin: I already run build.kde.org, this is only a workshop to discuss that. [14:38] aha [14:45] * sick_rimmit Oooooo look at all that shiny software on build.kde.org Jenkins system.. shiny nom nom [14:48] sudo apt -f install appeared to run cleanly. Now i need to re-start. [14:50] ? [15:06] Riddell: I am very confused, all errors with 5.3.2 already in archive. [15:07] sgclark: what what? [15:08] 5.3.2 for vivid [15:25] hi BluesKaj [15:29] hi clivejo [15:59] sgclark: if it's complaining that 5.3.2 is in wily then fix the script not to complain cos you're not wily [16:00] I am checking out Kubuntu_vivd_backports [16:00] minus the typos [16:02] Is there a bug with the lock screen in 5.3.2? Somehow I cannot unlock my session. (It might have to do with synergy though) [16:02] Restarting to check the PPA for 5.3.2 [16:07] Hmm, it might just be synergy mucking things up. [16:15] lordievader: how did you get around the plasma-desktop breakage? === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward [16:18] clivejo: What plasma desktop breakage? [16:19] when I booted this morning I had no kickoff menu [16:19] plasma-desktop was removed [16:19] It wasn't here. [16:19] so I reverted have to 5.3.1 [16:20] back to [16:20] I applied the PPA for 5.3.2, and so far have seen no immediate problems. [16:20] but I was liking 5.3.2, it seemed faster [16:20] In all of two minutes of running ;-) [16:20] have you rebooted? [16:20] I've rebooted a number of times. [16:21] Yes [16:21] everything was fine til I shut down and booted this mornig [16:21] Perhaps in the meantime things were fixed? [16:27] perphaps! [17:01] in Wily is Plasma not crashing as much clivejo lordievader mparillo [17:02] was behaving fro me last night [17:02] I actually thought it was faster, flicking between desktops etc [17:03] I just rebooted it and it crashed in Vivid [17:03] not restarting on it's own [17:03] did you get a login? [17:04] yea [17:04] maybe [17:04] when did it crash? [17:04] brb [17:06] back up [17:06] reboot fixed it [17:08] :) [17:09] still [17:34] can i burn/mount iso with windows system from kubuntu on usb ? [17:51] Yes, I generally prefer Wily already, ahoneybun [17:52] I think git-buildpackage-ppa is my nemsis in the same was as wrap-and-sort is sitter's [17:52] soee: I have used unetbootin (in the repos) to create bootable FAT USBs [17:52] I have heard it does not work with UEFI === prth_ is now known as prth [18:03] Riddell: looks like I did backports May 27th but you deleted them in your cleanup. [18:05] ahoneybun: Plasma5 rarely crashes on me. [18:06] I remember now and all they needed was testing, but I went on vacation. [18:08] Riddell: why did you delete all that stuff? I suspect more stuff I had going before vacation is gone too [18:20] Riddell: nevermind === drawkward is now known as drawkward_away === who_da_fly is now known as superfly [20:48] hiho [20:49] back on fresh Wily install and ssd :) [20:55] an .sh file would be arch independant? [20:56] sgclark: search your email; I sent you all the ticket and reservation details when I ordered them [20:57] ahh ok, thanks! [20:57] Monday is what we originally said [20:58] or gosh, I'll check my old email [20:59] claydoh: yep [20:59] sgclark: if I have *-data.install files and rules in that file to put the file in that package, is there anything that could override it? [21:00] clivejo: the rules file can [21:01] nothing in there that I can see :/ [21:02] G'day folks. [21:04] dang, I see that originally proposed was Wed. morning, Thur. morn or afternoon [21:04] earlier is better i think [21:05] Your decision valorie :) [21:05] Doodle only had Thursday [21:05] Tue sounds better than Thursday! [21:06] windows boots much fatser than kubuntu on ssd :( [21:07] can we get Shadeslayer to stay for Monday? [21:08] it seems we have not been signed up anywhere, no matter what kenny said [21:09] Wed. after noon is the trip, so if we want to meet all day, it will be Mon, Tue or Thur [21:10] how many will attend? [21:17] valorie: no idea [21:17] Try Tuesday? [21:18] all day? [21:18] seems like we usually have 15-20 [21:21] Dunno if it's that many [21:21] Depends if debian dudes come [21:22] soee: Are you sure it is a true cold boot for Windows? Starting with Win8, I believe Windows has had a fast boot: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/how-windows-8-hybrid-shutdown-fast-boot-feature-works/ [21:24] the rooms all seem large, and the smallest already snapped up by that sneaky mgraesslin [21:24] mparillo__: i have win7 here [21:26] Well, I made my pitch for Kubuntu. On spinning rust, they seem comparable. In fact, my nice work laptop with the usual corporate anti-virus, hard drive encryption, spyware, etc. boots about as fast as my tiny netbook. [21:27] https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2015/Tuesday#Lab_1.5w_-_28_July - we are scheduled [21:28] also now afer frsh install my fan is running like mad [21:29] My fan spins once my daughter loads minecraft. [21:30] soee: My Windows 7 boot is slower than my Kubuntu boot on an SSD [21:31] oO [21:32] brb [21:33] back [22:06] can LP sometimes fail for no good reason? === alket_ is now known as alket [22:08] ye [22:08] s [22:19] I restarted it and it built ok second time round [22:19] wonder what happened [22:39] how did we get KDEConnect into Plasma 5? [22:39] the developer states it is for KDE4 only :/ === drawkward_away is now known as drawkward