[06:08] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: awesome, Can you link us?
[06:08] <ahoneybun> the Manual ovidiu-florin?
[06:10] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: what you updated about special keys
[06:11] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: have you seen the questions that were posted in #kubuntu right after the show ended?
[06:11] <ovidiu-florin> there was noone there to answer them
[06:11] <ovidiu-florin> :(
[06:11] <ahoneybun> https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Installation#Install_Process
[06:11] <ahoneybun> yea.
[06:13] <soee> good morn ing
[06:13] <ovidiu-florin> peope, any sugestions to improve support in #kubuntu ?
[06:13] <ovidiu-florin> poeple*
[06:14] <soee> define 'improve' :)
[06:14] <ovidiu-florin> most of us, including me, are most likely ignoring that channel
[06:15] <valorie> I have a suggestion: more of us being there, and willing to answer questions
[06:15] <valorie> I'm not that good
[06:15] <ovidiu-florin> any kind of feedback to the users is good
[06:15] <soee> well when i have time i'm always watching there and tryign to help
[06:15] <ovidiu-florin> great
[06:16] <valorie> lordievader and blueskaj are super
[06:16] <ovidiu-florin> yes, but they are not always available
[06:18] <valorie> it isn't at the top of my list of priorities, but I try to pay attention when I'm at the keyboard
[06:18] <valorie> but I'm not that knowledgeable
[06:18] <valorie> when claydoh is around, he's great too
[06:20] <ovidiu-florin> I'll do my best to watch it more
[06:21] <valorie> thank you ovidiu-florin
[06:21] <valorie> you are awesome
[06:21] <ovidiu-florin> Let's all become jedi in Kubuntu http://imgur.com/gallery/Jkena
[06:22] <valorie> fun, but I'd rather have a sonic screwdriver
[07:10] <clivejo> back to plasma 5.3.1 :(
[07:11] <soee> :)
[07:11] <soee> from 5.3.2 ?
[07:11] <clivejo> yeah
[07:11] <clivejo> plasma-desktop freaked out when I started up this morning
[07:12] <clivejo> no kickoff menu etc
[07:12] <clivejo> brb need to log back in, no window controls at the moment
[07:12] <soee> how did you instaeled it anyway when upgrades wanted to remove plasma-desktop and kubuntu-desktop ?
[07:14] <clivejo> I dont know soee
[07:14] <clivejo> it was working great last night
[07:14] <clivejo> I even thought 5.3.2 seemed faster
[08:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:49] <lordievader> valorie: Thanks for the praise :)
[08:50] <valorie> <3
[08:51] <valorie> oh whoops, how is it almost 2am
[08:51] <valorie> niters all
[08:52] <lordievader> :P
[08:52] <lordievader> Sleep well.
[09:04] <Riddell> clivejo: about?
[09:12] <Riddell> clivejo: you forgot to add the wps patch to debian/patches/series so it didn't get applied and the wps stuff didn't get built, I've added that and put it into my ppa ~jr
[09:13] <Riddell> clivejo: your skrooge package is based on some old packaging rather than the stuff in the archive, could you re-do it using the stuff in the archive? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skrooge
[09:13] <Riddell> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/pkg-kde/kde-extras/skrooge/
[09:17] <ovidiu-florin> I'm getting reports that in Vivid there's a problem with KDE init. I can confirm this with Kompare on my system
[09:17] <ovidiu-florin> simptoms: Open a program, plasma freezes untill you close the program
[09:18] <ovidiu-florin> when closed you get an error saying: KDEInit could not launch 'name of the program'
[09:18] <ovidiu-florin> someone reported this with LO
[09:18] <ovidiu-florin> I'd report a bug, but I don't know what against
[09:22] <sebas> ovidiu-florin: kinit is a framework
[10:16] <blaze> does anyone know what qt version is planned for wily?
[10:36] <soee> 5.4.x probably 
[10:52] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:01] <Riddell> https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2015/AllBoF when do we want a kubuntu day?
[11:01] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: I guess you can put l10n there
[11:08] <Riddell> sitter: pausing integration while I do the plasma 5.3.2 upload
[11:09] <sitter> k
[11:15] <Riddell> https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2015/AllBoF  how about just monday or tuesday? sitter, shadeslayer, sgclark, valorie, ahoneybun?
[11:18] <sitter> I booked till thursday because you guys led me to believe that we are having it on wednesday :@
[11:19] <sitter> Riddell: monday probably is reasonable
[11:19] <sitter> not quite so worn out
[11:23] <sitter> Riddell: we could do tuesday afternoon and wednesday morning bof perhaps. I feel that maybe someone should sit in on plasma and most definitely on wayland. that being said, I'd be fine with anything that isn't tuesday morning
[11:25] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I've sent an email to KDE i18n asking for time suggestions.
[12:42] <Riddell> sgclark: did you get anywhere with vivid backport of plasma 5.3.2? I realise my changes to kubuntu-automation may have messed up backport proccess
[12:43] <Riddell> plasma 5.3.2 up into wily!
[12:53] <soee> will test later @home on fresh Wily installation on new ssd :)
[12:53] <soee> i think there is new app bugfix release already
[12:55] <lordievader> Is the test window of plasma 5.3.2 still open?
[12:56] <Riddell> lordievader: quick test before it goes into wily!
[12:56] <lordievader> First need to get my test box back up and running, then I can test ;)
[12:59] <santa_> Riddell: you still have the same file installed in 2 different binary packages in oxygen
[12:59] <santa_> usr/share/kservices5/oxygenstyleconfig.desktop
[13:00] <santa_> see debian/liboxygenstyleconfig5-5.install and debian/kde-style-oxygen-qt5.install
[13:00] <santa_> debian placed it in liboxygenstyleconfig5-5
[13:02] <Riddell> I think this hear is affecting my ability to do simple merges
[13:03] <Riddell> thanks santa_, fixed
[13:03] <Riddell> heat
[13:04] <santa_> great
[13:04] <santa_> oh, by the way
[13:05] <santa_> I found an old abi break in kdepimlibs
[13:05] <mparillo_> Is there a PPA for Plasma 5.3.2 in Wily?
[13:05] <soee> mparillo_: yes
[13:06] <soee> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma
[13:13] <mparillo_> TY. updating upgrading
[13:14] <soee> mparillo_: please report to Riddell how the upgrade went
[13:18] <mparillo_> On this poor little netbook, I think I need !patience
[13:20] <mparillo_> Riddell: Is this a serious error: https://paste.kde.org/pjzptqklt
[13:22] <soee> mparillo_: this is probably what santa_ reported
[13:24] <mparillo_> soee: do you recommend I avoid re-starting then?
[13:25] <mparillo_> kinfocenter says I am on 5.3.2 now
[13:25] <mparillo_> without re-starting
[13:26] <santa_> mparillo_ soee: I think it is the same thing I reported, yes, he fixed it on git
[13:35] <Riddell> mparillo_: should be fixed
[13:35] <Riddell> mparillo_: dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/liboxygenstyleconfig5-5_4%3a5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa4_i386.deb
[13:42] <Riddell> ooh [ubuntu/wily] ktp-text-ui 4:15.04.2-0ubuntu1 (Accepted)
[13:42] <Riddell> I wonder if that means the rest of ktp will go shortly
[13:43] <sgclark> Riddell: just woke up, have not started.
[13:49] <mparillo_> sudo dpkg --install --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/liboxygenstyleconfig5-5_4%3a5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa4_i386.deb
[13:49] <mparillo_> ?
[13:56] <sgclark> Riddell: valorie: which day is Kubuntu day?
[13:58] <lordievader> Updating now to 5.3.2
[14:00] <mparillo_> https://paste.kde.org/pacel6nzn
[14:01] <Riddell> sgclark: someone needs to pick a day
[14:01] <Riddell> mparillo_: apt -f install
[14:02] <sgclark> ahh valorie got our tickets, I don't even know how long we there lol, guess wait for her to get up
[14:02] <sgclark> Riddell: if I dont update my automation scripts it shoudl work right? (backports)
[14:03] <lordievader> mparillo_: I got the same, running -f install now.
[14:03] <lordievader> Seems to be allright.
[14:04] <Riddell> sgclark: yeah
[14:04] <Riddell> well as much as it ever did :)
[14:05] <sgclark> hehe ok, will start soon after a cup of coffee
[14:12] <lordievader> I suppose "trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kservices5/oxygenstyleconfig.desktop', which is also in package kde-style-oxygen-qt5 4:5.3.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa4" is known?
[14:12] <Riddell> lordievader: yep, just force it
[14:13] <lordievader> Apart from that the upgrade went pretty smooth.
[14:30] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: can you tell me more about the BOF you want to organize?
[14:30] <ovidiu-florin> I'm very interested in making KDE applications run on Windows
[14:31] <ovidiu-florin> I have some experience with Windows development, even though I don't like it.
[14:34] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin: that part in itself will be the KDE windows guys emerge working with our CI scripts and not really the making the apps build, though that will come later haha.
[14:35] <ovidiu-florin> sgclark: so, what is your plan?
[14:36] <ovidiu-florin> CI AFAIK is Jenkins that keeps building KDE software on different platforms
[14:36] <sgclark> I am only gathering interest
[14:36] <ovidiu-florin> and yels if something fails
[14:36] <sgclark> ovidiu-florin: I already run build.kde.org, this is only a workshop to discuss that.
[14:38] <ovidiu-florin> aha
[14:45]  * sick_rimmit Oooooo look at all that shiny software on build.kde.org Jenkins system.. shiny nom nom
[14:48] <mparillo_> sudo apt -f install appeared to run cleanly. Now i need to re-start.
[14:50] <mparillo_> ?
[15:06] <sgclark> Riddell: I am very confused, all errors with 5.3.2 already in archive.
[15:07] <Riddell> sgclark: what what?
[15:08] <sgclark> 5.3.2 for vivid
[15:25] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[15:29] <BluesKaj> hi clivejo
[15:59] <Riddell> sgclark: if it's complaining that 5.3.2 is in wily then fix the script not to complain cos you're not wily
[16:00] <sgclark> I am checking out Kubuntu_vivd_backports
[16:00] <sgclark> minus the typos
[16:02] <lordievader> Is there a bug with the lock screen in 5.3.2? Somehow I cannot unlock my session. (It might have to do with synergy though)
[16:02] <mparillo_> Restarting to check the PPA for 5.3.2
[16:07] <lordievader> Hmm, it might just be synergy mucking things up.
[16:15] <clivejo> lordievader: how did you get around the plasma-desktop breakage?
[16:18] <lordievader> clivejo: What plasma desktop breakage?
[16:19] <clivejo> when I booted this morning I had no kickoff menu
[16:19] <clivejo> plasma-desktop was removed
[16:19] <lordievader> It wasn't here.
[16:19] <clivejo> so I reverted have to 5.3.1
[16:20] <clivejo> back to
[16:20] <mparillo__> I applied the PPA for 5.3.2, and so far have seen no immediate problems.
[16:20] <clivejo> but I was liking 5.3.2, it seemed faster
[16:20] <mparillo__> In all of two minutes of running ;-)
[16:20] <clivejo> have you rebooted?
[16:20] <lordievader> I've rebooted a number of times.
[16:21] <mparillo__> Yes
[16:21] <clivejo> everything was fine til I shut down and booted this mornig
[16:21] <lordievader> Perhaps in the meantime things were fixed?
[16:27] <clivejo> perphaps!
[17:01] <ahoneybun> in Wily is Plasma not crashing as much clivejo lordievader mparillo
[17:02] <clivejo> was behaving fro me last night
[17:02] <clivejo> I actually thought it was faster, flicking between desktops etc
[17:03] <ahoneybun> I just rebooted it and it crashed in Vivid
[17:03] <ahoneybun> not restarting on it's own
[17:03] <clivejo> did you get a login?
[17:04] <ahoneybun> yea
[17:04] <ahoneybun> maybe
[17:04] <clivejo> when did it crash?
[17:04] <ahoneybun> brb
[17:06] <ahoneybun> back up
[17:06] <ahoneybun> reboot fixed it
[17:08] <clivejo> :)
[17:09] <ahoneybun> still
[17:34] <soee> can i burn/mount iso with windows system from kubuntu  on usb ?
[17:51] <mparillo__> Yes, I generally prefer Wily already, ahoneybun
[17:52] <Riddell> I think git-buildpackage-ppa is my nemsis in the same was as wrap-and-sort is sitter's
[17:52] <mparillo__> soee: I have used unetbootin (in the repos) to create bootable FAT USBs
[17:52] <mparillo__> I have heard it does not work with UEFI
[18:03] <sgclark> Riddell: looks like I did backports May 27th but you deleted them in your cleanup.
[18:05] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Plasma5 rarely crashes on me.
[18:06] <sgclark> I remember now and all they needed was testing, but I went on vacation.
[18:08] <sgclark> Riddell: why did you delete all that stuff? I suspect more stuff I had going before vacation is gone too
[18:20] <sgclark> Riddell: nevermind
[20:48] <soee> hiho
[20:49] <soee> back on fresh Wily install and ssd :)
[20:55] <clivejo> an .sh file would be arch independant?
[20:56] <valorie> sgclark: search your email; I sent you all the ticket and reservation details when I ordered them
[20:57] <sgclark> ahh ok, thanks!
[20:57] <valorie> Monday is what we originally said
[20:58] <valorie> or gosh, I'll check my old email
[20:59] <Riddell> claydoh: yep
[20:59] <clivejo> sgclark: if I have *-data.install files and rules in that file to put the file in that package, is there anything that could override it?
[21:00] <sgclark> clivejo: the rules file can
[21:01] <clivejo> nothing in there that I can see :/
[21:02] <Etriaph> G'day folks.
[21:04] <valorie> dang, I see that originally proposed was Wed. morning, Thur. morn or afternoon
[21:04] <valorie> earlier is better i think
[21:05] <Riddell> Your decision valorie :)
[21:05] <valorie> Doodle only had Thursday
[21:05] <valorie> Tue sounds better than Thursday!
[21:06] <soee> windows boots much fatser than kubuntu on ssd :(
[21:07] <valorie> can we get Shadeslayer to stay for Monday?
[21:08] <valorie> it seems we have not been signed up anywhere, no matter what kenny said
[21:09] <valorie> Wed. after noon is the trip, so if we want to meet all day, it will be Mon, Tue or Thur
[21:10] <valorie> how many will attend?
[21:17] <Riddell> valorie: no idea
[21:17] <Riddell> Try Tuesday?
[21:18] <valorie> all day?
[21:18] <valorie> seems like we usually have 15-20
[21:21] <Riddell> Dunno if it's that many
[21:21] <Riddell> Depends if debian dudes come
[21:22] <mparillo__> soee: Are you sure it is a true cold boot for Windows? Starting with Win8, I believe Windows has had a fast boot: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/windows-and-office/how-windows-8-hybrid-shutdown-fast-boot-feature-works/
[21:24] <valorie> the rooms all seem large, and the smallest already snapped up by that sneaky mgraesslin
[21:24] <soee> mparillo__: i have win7 here
[21:26] <mparillo__> Well, I made my pitch for Kubuntu. On spinning rust, they seem comparable. In fact, my nice work laptop with the usual corporate anti-virus, hard drive encryption, spyware, etc. boots about as fast as my tiny netbook.
[21:27] <valorie> https://community.kde.org/Akademy/2015/Tuesday#Lab_1.5w_-_28_July - we are scheduled
[21:28] <soee> also now afer frsh install my fan is running like mad
[21:29] <mparillo__> My fan spins once my daughter loads minecraft.
[21:30] <Etriaph> soee: My Windows 7 boot is slower than my Kubuntu boot on an SSD
[21:31] <soee> oO
[21:32] <soee> brb
[21:33] <soee> back
[22:06] <clivejo> can LP sometimes fail for no good reason?
[22:08] <yofel> ye
[22:08] <yofel> s
[22:19] <clivejo> I restarted it and it built ok second time round
[22:19] <clivejo> wonder what happened
[22:39] <clivejo> how did we get KDEConnect into Plasma 5?
[22:39] <clivejo> the developer states it is for KDE4 only :/