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zemmihatesgood morning friendly irc folk.00:52
tewardgood evening!  :)00:53
zemmihatesOr evening, depending on where you are in the world :p00:53
zemmihatesI have an issue with logrotate and I think I need an adults help.00:54
zemmihatesif anyone is feeling willing00:54
zemmihatesBasic gist of the issue is, I'm getting 'error creating output file <blah> file exists' - problem is, rotation is set to 10 years, the file it's complaining about is 7 months old. So I'm not sure what to try next.00:57
zemmihatestried reinitalizing the state file, checked all the perms, checked if it was 0byte, made sure that there wasn't another config file that may be trying to touch it.00:58
sarnoldzemmihates: can you catch it in the act with strace?01:10
zemmihatesI didn't really want to go that far :p but looks like it's my next port of call. just had some people in another chan look at the config and looks like we're all good there.01:11
sarnoldheh yeah, strace isn't exactly fun..01:12
billy_ran_awayAnyone really familiar with GPT partitions? Like why they make get messed up when a BIOS tries to boot from them? Or how to fix that?01:12
billy_ran_awayThis is what I'm seeing... http://pastebin.com/TSx0rYWR http://pastebin.com/A66PvCzv01:12
billy_ran_awayTwo of my drives in a 4 drive RAID array are messed up...01:13
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JanCbilly_ran_away: I hope you have backups01:25
billy_ran_awayJanC: I think if I could just fix the GPT partition table it work01:25
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erkburglesI am trying to gain functionality of my trackpad for dell inpsiron 3541i with ubuntu 15.0.4, I went here http://askubuntu.com/questions/527793/clickpad-not-working-on-dell-inspiron-13-7000-running-ubuntu-14-04 followed everything, waited hours for the source to go through and absolutely nothing is fixed can anyone help me03:45
erkburgleszxcv03:52
erkburglescan anyone help me with my trackpad issue03:53
erkburglesfollowed this http://askubuntu.com/questions/527793/clickpad-not-working-on-dell-inspiron-13-7000-running-ubuntu-14-04 and after HOURS absolutely nothing is fixed03:54
histoerkburgles: is your trackpad still broke?04:26
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neonixcoderGood day team..05:56
neonixcoderI am facing a strange issue..05:56
neonixcoderI have an issue with /etc/resolv.conf file whose content are moved by some process..05:57
neonixcoderafter removing, My VPN connectivity is lost and I can not do any thing..05:58
neonixcoderany suggestions?05:58
neonixcoderpermissions on that file is 644 for root user..05:58
TJ-neonixcoder: "/etc/resolv.conf" should be a symlink created by resolvconf. See "man 8 resolvconf"05:59
neonixcoderTJ-: I am aware of this, but my system worked fine with same config.. ie its not a symlink to any file..06:00
neonixcoderSo bit curious how is it got edited and becomes empty..06:01
TJ-neonixcoder: are the resolvconf scripts altering it directly? As I recall they perform updates on the "/etc/resolv.conf" symlink06:03
neonixcoderTJ-:How can I conform on this? I checked if any service running with resolvconf with ps -ef | grep resolv and I did not get any process..06:03
TJ-neonixcoder: If I recall correctly its the resolvconf hook scripts06:04
neonixcoderTJ-:Did not get you..06:08
neonixcodercan you give more info on this?06:08
TJ-neonixcoder: "man 8 resolvconf" see the discussions on how it works, and the FILES section06:10
neonixcoderTJ-:Will try to check it.. but I am sure.. resolvconf service is not working in my host..06:18
TJ-neonixcoder: as the docs say... it isn't a service! It's a series of hook scripts triggered by other processes06:19
neonixcoderTJ-: Got your point..06:19
neonixcoderTJ-:Another question, do we require ubuntu-minimal package if I want to go with simple ubuntu machine?06:33
TJ-neonixcoder: As far as I recall that's a meta-package describing the minimal set of packages to useful install, but you can install whatever packages you know are needed06:35
neonixcoderI removed ntpdate from my machine as I installed ntp package and this ntpdate removed ubuntu-minimal along with it..06:36
neonixcoderso just curious if we really require this package or not?06:37
TJ-neonixcoder: It's usefdul to retain it for upgrades since the depends may change but it doesn't have anything of its own to install, it just has a list of depends to satisfy06:38
neonixcoderOk..06:39
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neonixcoderTJ-:I got what is changing my /etc/resolv.conf file..07:47
neonixcoderA bit background, I use 3G modem to connect my remote server to internet. Once Internet is established, I use vpn to connect to my central servers.07:49
neonixcoderI can see modem is connected properly then VPN is connected properly..07:49
neonixcoderBut after some time VPN is dropping off in a random time and this guy is moving /etc/resolve.conf file contact and replacing it with an existing file..07:50
neonixcoderI am struck up here..07:50
maswanHm. I'm really scratching my head here, and wonder if someone of you have any ideas. Out of two identical machines one just does not get it's statically configured ipv6 ip at boot. And the same applies to one out of a dozen VMs. As far as I can tell they're identical too, the logs I've found say nothing, any clues for where to look next?08:34
lordievaderGood morning.08:48
jamespageSpamapS, ack - wondered who did that (came through on my backports notification email)08:53
jamespageSpamapS, I'll sync up debian experimental as well08:53
rbasakjamespage: opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvirt/+bug/1470778 please? Critical bug / SRU regression or expected behaviour?09:03
jamespagerbasak, definately not intended - libvirt != docker09:04
jamespageyouch09:04
rbasakhallyn: ^^09:05
jamespageSpamapS, ironicclient 0.7 uploaded to experimental - I'll resync once LP notices09:06
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clays116hello who can help me with openstack? when i try create instance i see error: There was an error submitting the form. Please try again10:45
arcskydns settings where do i configure that ? resolv.conf doesnt seems to be the proper way nowdays...11:10
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a_okCan someone tell my why linux-image-generic is stuck at version 3.13?12:58
a_okapt-cache tells me that 3.19 is available12:59
bekks!info linux-image-generic12:59
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.19.0.21.20 (vivid), package size 2 kB, installed size 27 kB12:59
jpdsa_ok: You're looking for: linux-image-generic-lts-vivid13:00
a_okjpds: Thanks. Rather confusing naming schemes though...13:01
jpdsa_ok: Not really.13:01
jpds!hwe | a_ok13:01
ubottua_ok: On August 7, 2014, Ubuntu 12.04.5 will deliver the kernel and graphics stack from 14.04. At that time, security updates and bug fixes for older hardware enablement stacks will cease. Users of older hardware enablement stacks are encouraged to update to the 12.04.5 hardware enablement stack or upgrade to 14.04. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL for further details.13:01
arcskyhey guys, im trying to install Ubuntu. I got error when i come to the Grub installation. it says "Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda" but i want it to be installedf on /dev/sdb . how can i do that?13:27
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coreycbjamespage, can we promote python-keystonemiddleware to proposed in the juno cloud archive?13:28
jamespageyes13:31
coreycbjamespage, and oslo.messaging for icehouse please13:34
coreycbbeisner, icehouse 2014.1.5 is ready for trusty testing13:35
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kpomanhello to all. I would like to emulate a localhost smtp server by using ssmtp to relay to a gmail account I have. can someone tell me if this is possible and point me a how-to ?13:40
bekksJust install postfix and set it up as internet relay - you will be asked upon installation.13:41
kpomanbekks: postfix has too much overhead and security implications. I thought more as a microdaemon emulating a smtp server only in localhost and relay13:42
bekksToo much overhead? :)13:42
kpomanbekks: yep, lot of files, daemons, configurations, etc...13:43
bekksA small number of config files, one daemon.13:43
kpomanbekks: I am not gonna use quite nothing about its subsystems etc... Isnt there some tool able to create a localhost smtp server and create then send mail commands on the data inputted to it ?13:44
bekksWhich "subsystems" do you actually talk about?13:44
kpomanbekks: the queues deferreds et al13:44
bekksPostfix is mailserver, its only subsystem is the MTA functionality.13:44
bekks*is a13:44
kpomanit has lot of user management, virtual domains, and all kind of complications I'd like to avoid13:45
bekksSo you didnt even try to set it up. You didnt even see how easythat process is actually.13:46
kpomanbekks: it's just about curiosity. I already installed some postfix on my past but now as I am using ssmtp relaying to a gmail account on a small virtual hosted server I need to economize ram, disk space and stuff13:46
bekksPostfix isnt a ram-hog nor a space-hog.13:47
kpomanssmtp is working fine, but lot of apps ask for a server:port conf13:47
kpomanbekks: anyway, dont you think a virtual smtp server just adding an interface for apps to the ssmtp ultra-light-and-simple tool, wouldnt be a great tool ?13:49
bekksNope.13:49
bekksA postfix internet relay ist fast, small, efficient. No need for reinventing the wheel again.13:50
kpomanbekks: so postfix would completely replace ssmtp, right ?13:50
bekksRight.13:50
kpomanam gonna look for some tutorials out there on the internet then ...13:51
kpomanI thought you were proposing use of postfix only as that virtual stuff to send to ssmtp13:51
bekkskpoman: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html13:52
bekkskpoman: Postfix is a MTA, no MUA.13:53
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beisnercoreycb, ack, i'll kick the icehouse proposed tests - thanks!14:06
tewardivoks: where's the link for PostFix virtual domains again?  I lost my browser history ://14:24
teward(so test@domain1 and test@domain2 can be forwarded to different addresses rather than to the same, etc.)14:25
patdk-wklink?14:26
tewardpatdk-wk: he gave me a wiki link yesterday, i don't have scrollback or internet history14:26
patdk-wkhmm, what your asking is the same thing14:27
patdk-wkpostfix forwards to whereever yo utell it to14:27
tewardpatdk-wk: um... aliases != virtual domains?14:27
patdk-wkthere is nothing different about local/offsite/internal/external/same/different14:27
tewardpatdk-wk: explain that to forwarding - it only accepts the left side of the address14:27
patdk-wkno14:27
tewardi can't pass it `foo@bar.baz: teward@ubuntu.com` in /etc/aliases without it yelling about the account not being local14:28
patdk-wkhow is aliases!=virtual domains?14:28
patdk-wklocal != virtual14:28
tdnI have set up a LUKS encrypted /home on my Ubuntu 12.04. I have entered "none" in /etc/crypttab to indicate that I want the user to enter passphrase during boot. However, the Ubuntu Splash screen does not show the prompt, so it times out on mounting /home and asks user to skip or drup to shell instead. How do I make Ubuntu show the LUKS prompt in the boot splash?14:28
tewardpatdk-wk: then postfix and what i'm told here are conflicting14:28
patdk-wkstop attempting to do virtual when using local14:28
patdk-wkno idea what you where told here14:28
patdk-wkbut the postfix manual and #postfix is very easy to understand14:28
ivoksit's not conflicting14:28
tewardstop talking... just stop for a minute.  I'm trying to achieve postfix as a MAIL FORWARDER, accepting foo@bar.baz and foo@baz.bar and forward to different addresses.14:28
tewardfor MULTIPLE DOMAINS14:29
ivoksteward: you were told to use virtualdomains if you want to use multiple domains14:29
tewardi'm hearing 'aliases', 'virtual domains', etc.14:29
ivoksyou said you'll do that at some other time14:29
patdk-wkare they local? or virtual?14:29
tewardivoks: and i lost the wiki link you provided and want it again14:29
tewardivoks: what's happening is patdk-wk is confusing me14:29
tewardand all I would like is that link you provided me yesterday14:29
tewardcause its not in my scrollback, nor my internet browser history14:29
patdk-wkdo you have a mydestinations = bar.baz and baz.bar14:29
ivoksgoogle 'postfix virtualdomains ubuntu'14:31
ivokshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto14:31
patdk-wksadly he isn't using virtual domains if he is using /etc/aliases14:31
ivokspatdk-wk: he didn't want to use virtualdomain, it was too complex14:32
ivoksso... he went with internet site + smarthost14:32
patdk-wkah, he kept saying virtual14:33
patdk-wknot once local14:33
patdk-wkhmm, internet site + smarthost doesn't make a different of local or virtual14:33
ivoksit doesn't14:33
ivoksbut it sets everything for local14:33
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thor77hey, i want to backup my server with duplicity via ftp. i want to use lftp as ftp-backend. lftp is installed, but duplicity complains about "UnsupportedBackentScheme": "UnsupportedBackendScheme: scheme not supported in url: lftp+ftp://myuser@mybackuphost/"15:36
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thor77and if i use ftp://... it wants me to install ncFTP15:41
thor77uh, seems like the version from ubuntu-repos doesn't support lftp...15:41
thor77nvm15:41
thor77uhm, yeah. is it possible to ONLY backup files given in --include-filelist? what path should i provide as source_path than?15:57
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lordievaderthor77: Perhaps you want to look into dirvish.16:22
thor77lordievader: i'm rly happy with duplicity16:24
thor77don't want to switch16:24
lordievaderJust making a suggestion.16:26
thor77yeah16:26
thor77oh16:26
thor77didn't say i'm using duplicity16:26
thor77my fault, sry16:26
lordievaderthor77: About your previous question, you really don't want to be using ftp.16:29
thor77lordievader: i have to16:29
lordievaderWhy? FTP is really bad nowadays.16:30
thor77lordievader: my backup-provider doesn't provide any other protocol for backup-access16:30
lordievaderWut? That is a very bad backup-provider.16:30
thor77that wasn't my question :) i'm very happy with my provider16:30
lordievaderNot even sftp?16:30
thor77nope16:31
lordievaderWow. That is terrible.16:31
lordievaderSo anyone between you and your backup provider has your files...16:32
thor77its in the same network16:32
thor77vps -> backup16:32
lordievaderMakes it a bit better, but still...16:33
lordievaderthor77: Duplicity has exclude options: http://duplicity.nongnu.org/duplicity.1.html16:34
thor77i know16:34
thor77but i want "backup all files from this list, nothing else"16:34
lordievaderSo --include-filelist?16:37
thor77yeah, but i need a source_path16:38
thor77i tried using / as source_path16:38
thor77-> http://pastie.org/private/mzxw1tmivfcmwshgxzkjw16:39
lordievaderMake an empty dir in /tmp?16:40
lordievaderAnd set the source to that?16:40
* lordievader has never worked with duplicity.16:40
thor77already tried to set it to /dev/null -> "doesn't start with correct prefix /dev/null.  Ignoring"16:41
SpamapSjamespage: thanks! I wasn't sure whether or not the Debian bits were in sync. So, the next question... the ironiccline tin UCA does not work with the Nova Ironic virt driver in UCA16:42
SpamapSjamespage: ironicclient16:42
SpamapSjamespage: I think 0.6.0 would be the better choice, as its requirements are aligned with Kilo requirements.16:42
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hexafractionHi, will the Ubuntu server install disks preserve a /home that lives in the same partition as /?17:01
patdk-wkit will do whatever you want17:03
patdk-wkif you don't change anything, yes17:03
hexafractionpatdk-wk: OK, thanks.17:03
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jamespageSpamapS, pity that's not expressed in requirements :(17:20
jamespageSpamapS, a version bump on ironicclient will need to go via the SRU process17:20
jamespage(for vivid)17:21
SpamapSjamespage: can't express optional requirements. :-P17:26
SpamapSjamespage: but yes, vivid's nova+ironic is broken.17:26
SpamapSjamespage: the real pity is there's no integration gate .. but.. infra will be doing that. ;)17:26
SpamapSjamespage: I will say that requirements things being weird like that is a nice argument for all virt drivers moving out of tree. :)17:26
jamespageSpamapS, https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/kilo/global-requirements.txt#L12617:27
jamespageinteresting versioning for kilo based on your comment above17:27
SpamapSjamespage: oh, 0.5.1 works too17:27
SpamapSjamespage: so we just missed bumping the minimum, because ENOGATETEST17:27
jamespageSpamapS, that might be a better choice then17:27
jamespageSpamapS, I'm a bit concerned that the minimum version is know broken as well17:29
jamespageSpamapS, we drive alot of our processes from global-requirements17:29
SpamapSjamespage: so unfortunately, this happens. We don't test with minimums.17:29
jamespageSpamapS, yah - hmm17:30
SpamapSjamespage: its one of those 'it would be great to expand the matrix to include minimums"17:30
SpamapSjamespage: nova+ironic _is_ gated, actually, but not with minimums.17:30
jamespageSpamapS, yes - we often pickup incorrect minimums in distro17:30
SpamapSjamespage: so the failure was in the ironic nova virt developers using 0.5 features without bumping global reqs17:30
jamespageSpamapS, an example - https://bugs.launchpad.net/barbican/+bug/147079917:31
SpamapSjamespage: luckily, I"m building a cloud to add 2500 vm capacity.. we might be able to do just that. :)17:31
jamespageSpamapS, OK - so this sounds SRU'able17:31
SpamapSjamespage: it's easily demonstrable17:31
SpamapSjamespage: test case: setup nova, setup ironic, nova boot -> see fail because 'configdrive' is passed.17:32
jamespageSpamapS, could you raise a bug?17:32
SpamapSjamespage: against vivid ironicclient?17:32
jamespageSpamapS,  yp17:32
SpamapSjamespage: k, on a call, then I will17:32
jamespageSpamapS, we'll bump in a new version given sufficient justification - if you could document a test case and help with verification then +117:33
SpamapSjamespage: indeed.. I have all the puppet to reproduce. :)17:33
* jamespage gives SpamapS a nice big hug17:34
SpamapSjamespage: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-ironicclient/+bug/147095017:51
lordievaderthor77: Hence the empty dir ;)18:15
steadystaticI’m on  14.04.2 LTS trying to find a PPA for Postfix 3.0 - I am nervous to make and make install it from scratch and risk screwing up my production. Running Postfix 2.11.0…I tried digging through https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas but no luck yet18:34
steadystatic(Having to do this for PCI compliance scan failure)18:34
steadystaticAnyone know where I can find Postfix 3 for Trusty?18:35
andolsteadystatic: Out of curiosity, why on earth would you need Postf 3.0 to be compliant security wise?18:37
sarnoldsteadystatic: apparently, previous auditors have been placated by showing them the USNs that demonstrate updates for SSL/TLS vulnerabilities18:37
steadystaticandol: I kinda wondered too but they said on the PCI scan “Download latest version of postfix”18:37
patdk-wkall pci scans say that18:38
sarnoldsteadystatic: is -that- it? idiots.18:38
patdk-wkdid you actually expect pci people to actually track what version you have, and if you are vaunerable, and actually TEST for the vaunerability18:38
patdk-wkno, they just do version compare, who cares if your vaunerable or not18:39
steadystaticCan they even tell what version of postfix from an outside scan18:39
steadystatic?18:39
sarnoldsteadystatic: here, I hope this can help: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfix https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Versions https://www.debian.org/security/faq#version https://access.redhat.com/security/updates/backporting18:39
steadystaticMaybe I just upgrade to 2.9 then and call it good. What’s a USN?18:39
sarnoldsteadystatic: check the "banner" postfix is advertising by nc hostname 25 ...18:40
steadystaticahh18:40
sarnoldsteadystatic: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/18:40
patdk-wksteadystatic, what is your postfix server ip?18:40
patdk-wkor dns18:40
patdk-wkor they might just be checking what SSL/TLS is accepted and assume your running older version18:41
patdk-wkif you are running 2.11 why would you *upgrade* to 2.918:41
steadystatic107.170.200  dot 194 is my IP18:42
steadystatic(I have no idea if bots troll these logs, that probably won’t do me much good lol)18:42
patdk-wkit's a public server18:42
patdk-wkI don't see how it would matter18:42
bekkssteadystatic: USN is a "Ubuntu Security Notice".18:42
patdk-wkESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)18:43
patdk-wk is all it says18:43
patdk-wkprobably they assume your outdated cause it says ubuntu18:43
steadystaticinteresting so if i rescan and just change the banner18:43
steadystaticthat could appease them possibly?18:43
patdk-wkthey will likely still hit you up on it18:43
patdk-wkbased on other things18:44
sarnoldI'd rather you try to educate the idiots ;)18:44
patdk-wknormally you just link them to the USN, and your done18:44
steadystaticcool18:44
sarnoldbut I can certianly appreciate the sisyphisian nature of the task :)18:44
patdk-wksarnold, it would never help18:44
patdk-wkthey just don't care :)18:44
patdk-wkit would increase their workload to do proper checking18:44
sarnoldpatdk-wk: like those idiots selling vulnerability scanners18:44
steadystaticWhy do their scans take 24 hours is what I want to know...18:45
sarnoldoh, sorry, "vulnerability scanners".18:45
sarnoldsteadystatic: 'cause they want you to think you're getting your money's worth18:45
steadystaticThat’s what I thought, too18:45
patdk-wksteadystatic, they take >7days when they scan me18:45
steadystaticUgh - yeah client picked these guys I had no say18:45
patdk-wkatleast based on my web traffic logs from their ip space, and my 800% higher than normal http cpu usage18:45
patdk-wkthey pci scan EVERY SINGLE blog/forum/... entry18:46
steadystaticOk so I’m just changed main.cnf and am updating their other items then…they say they want openssh 6.6 but i’m already on OpenSSH_6.6.1p118:56
steadystatic*changing18:56
steadystaticI hate pci scans seems like painful meaningless quarterly to do list18:57
steadystaticglad i’m a front end dev for my day job, you guys I feel your pain18:57
steadystaticOh these guys…dug deeper into pci report this is why “* Running SMTP service * Product Postfix exists -- Postfix * No version for Postfix found”19:03
steadystaticso they just ding me on that. im not gonna advertise to you what version im on!19:03
steadystaticShould I request exception on this too? “* Running SSH service * Product OpenSSH exists -- OpenBSD OpenSSH 6.6.1p1 * Vulnerable version of product OpenSSH found -- OpenBSD OpenSSH 6.6.1p1”19:23
bekkssteadystatic: Depends on the vulnerability (CVE) they refer to.19:26
steadystaticbekks: CVE-2014-2653 is what they listed19:26
bekksSo check which package you are using exactly, with apt-cache19:26
sarnoldsteadystatic: probably; there is a vulnerability in our ssh package that needs to be fixed, but no deity can help you if you're using X11 forwarding over ssh on any system that handles credit card data :)  http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2015/CVE-2015-5352.html19:27
sarnoldsteadystatic: that's been fixed: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-2653.html19:27
steadystaticsarnold: haha, no def. not x11 forwarding to this box19:28
steadystaticOK one last PCI question: I setup this ssl cert myself through namecheap positivessl…but does this mean #doingitwrong ? “TLS/SSL certificate signed by unknown, untrusted CA: CN=COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA, O=COMODO CA Limited, L=Salford, ST=Greater Manchester, C=GB -- Path does not chain with any of the trust anchors.”19:32
bekkscomodo had some severe trust issues, that why no one trust their certs anymore.19:33
steadystaticI checked on ssllabs.com their scanner seems fine to my untrained eye19:34
steadystaticcrap. so to remediate I might have to get a new cert and shell out more cash?19:34
steadystatichttps://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=awanderlustadventure.com19:34
steadystaticI got an A rating there19:34
steadystaticdisabled RC4 and some of the other things i was supposta do19:35
sarnoldsteadystatic: I wonder if they are complaining that your server is actually returning the trust root in the chain19:37
sarnoldsteadystatic: .. maybe try taking the root CA out of your chain?19:37
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DavieySpamapS: It seems it *is* possible to express optional requirements21:54
Davieyjamespage: ^21:54
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