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=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away
=== zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/8ewxsl3e2t1na6m/AABRwvabCWsS_03wGG2h81R-a?dl=002:31
daftykinswell that was a mission and a half02:31
daftykinsnow it's draining water down to the compressor evaporation vessel properly and is clean inside out \o/02:31
daftykinsnow i just need beer to fill it with...02:31
daftykinsmaybe food too, but less so on that front02:32
zmoylan-pirum cake? :-)02:39
zmoylan-pisherry trifle02:40
daftykinso002:40
zmoylan-pior bernards lolly from black books... http://gifsoup.com/view/2705130/black-books-lolly.html02:42
daftykins:D02:44
daftykinsnever watched that02:44
zmoylan-piomg, go get black books02:44
zmoylan-pidid you like father ted?02:44
daftykinshells yes :>02:44
daftykinsthat's practically law02:44
zmoylan-pithen black books will press all the right buttons02:44
daftykinsvewy gewd02:45
daftykinsbuying the Batman game the other day i got a free bluray of the Dark Knight series, i should throw that in to see how good it looks02:45
daftykinsdespite already having a 1080p rip *whistle*02:45
zmoylan-piand just in case as you somehow missed black books you have seen the i.t. crowd also from same folk02:47
daftykinssaw an ep or two but didn't get the appeal hugely02:47
zmoylan-piyou didn't see the 'it's vista' 'we're going to die!' scene then...02:48
daftykinsnewp02:49
zmoylan-pihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC4vz6IbdtY02:51
daftykinshmm, i can see how it's meant to be funny02:55
zmoylan-pithe episode with the german internet cannibal was sublime02:58
MartijnVdSIt begins! http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/07/man-killed-by-a-factory-robot-in-germany/04:38
zmoylan-picar making robots have been killing people since the 70s i think04:42
daftykinsRotM!04:43
zmoylan-pihttp://www.thinkartificial.org/aesthetics/the-first-human-killed-by-a-robot/04:45
zmoylan-piand that excludes things like torpedos or missiles which have certain levels of smarts04:45
mappsanyone watching mr robot?05:36
bujjipopey:check pm06:44
mapps;]06:45
bujji:)06:46
MooDoomorning morning06:50
mappsmorn06:50
bujjiafter noon06:52
=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
KnightWorkmorning everyone !07:29
SuperMattmorning07:32
KnightWorkHey SuperMatt07:34
KnightWorkhow are you today07:34
diploMorning all07:37
SuperMattI'm well thank you07:37
SuperMattyourself?07:37
KnightWork Yep .. little too warm for my taste.07:38
KnightWorkLittle neckpain of working on my laptop too long yesterday07:38
SuperMattI'm ok now that I'm in the airconditioned office07:38
KnightWorkSame here , worked from home yesterday and I probably got slow-fried to death07:39
awilkinsHeh, the only downside to working at home ; offices have better temperature control systems07:42
awilkinsOf course, whether they are actually switched on is determined by how cheap your employer / the company they lease the office from / is07:43
popeyi bought one of those portable air con units when wifey was pregnant with sophie 11 years ago, it comes out once a year :)07:44
awilkinsMy old employer leased offices from Regus and they were seriously cheap07:44
awilkinsThey'd shave any cost - cheaper paper towels in the toilets, turning the knob on the AC in their favour07:45
awilkinsThankfully that extended to not refilling the poison gas dispenser in the toilet (those automatic "air fresheners")07:46
KnightWorkCamped out at the office today aswell08:00
KnightWorkspent most of the day in my darkened home office yesterday08:00
KnightWorkbut being away from people (and sunlight) is not always good08:02
TwistedLucidityUnless you are a vampire08:04
KnightWorkTwistedLucidity: who says i'm not :p08:04
KnightWork :[08:04
TwistedLucidityFair warning, I had *a lot* of garlic yesterday....08:05
=== john-mca` is now known as john-mcaleely
KnightWorkBeen working on my XPS13 for the last couple of days now ..08:06
KnightWorkvery pleasant to see that ubuntu is ticking 99% of all my requirement boxes08:06
KnightWork+ the XPS is great hardware08:07
popeyooh08:08
KnightWorkpopey:  ?08:09
TwistedLucidityI read another review that was less than complimentary, shall see if I can find it08:09
KnightWorkTwistedLucidity: not biting you anytime soon :p08:09
KnightWorkpopey: i'm pretty pleased. Aside from the touchpad being a little sensitive on 14.04 i don't have any major issues. battery life is great , i don't have the key-repeat issue ... so all is fairly well.08:10
KnightWork+ the hardware is fantastic08:10
TwistedLucidityKnightWork: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3bftcu/finally_received_my_dell_xps_13_first_thoughts/08:10
KnightWorkI recorded a podcast about the Dell XPs13  , its been scheduled for release in 2 weeks08:11
TwistedLucidityNot me, so can't attest to how much of the faults are Dell's, Canonical's or just a case of PEBKAC.08:11
davmor2Morning all08:28
davmor2Oddly the Song stuck in my head this morning is popcorn08:28
KnightWorkoh god !08:28
KnightWorkhorrible 80's synth song08:28
foobarryaaaaghghghggh08:28
KnightWorkfoobarry: i agree :p08:30
KnightWork 08:30
TwistedLucidityAxle F08:38
foobarryjan hammer theme from miami vice. my first 12 inch and i didn't even know what miami vice was08:41
KnightWorkJan Hammer is a great artist !08:42
KnightWorkor this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60HpUaCJO6k08:44
TwistedLucidityCrockett's Tune?08:44
KnightWorkTwistedLucidity: there are a few better ones . The theme song from Miamy vice is great, crockets theme too ...08:44
TwistedLucidityI like this theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB1NiNKwueE08:44
TwistedLucidityThe movie reboot was shockingly dreadful.08:45
TwistedLucidityWell, it was Hollywood; so no real surprise.08:45
foobarrythis is so epic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQDU-2qMre009:00
foobarryjan hammer doing epic faces09:01
foobarrywhile watching the programme09:01
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy "I Forgot" Day! 😃09:05
davmor2Man that was close I thought you'd forgotten ;)09:12
TwistedLucidityForgot what?09:22
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:25
davmor2TwistedLucidity: I forgot09:28
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)10:01
bigcalmIs there a way of managing security releases rather than just running dist-upgrade all of the time?10:29
popeyunattended-upgrades ?10:53
popey!info unattended-upgrades10:53
lubotu3unattended-upgrades (source: unattended-upgrades): automatic installation of security upgrades. In component main, is optional. Version 0.83.6ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 29 kB, installed size 300 kB10:53
bigcalmYeah, eventually found what our PM wanted. Just the info, not sure we'll do so though10:53
popeyi run that on my mums computer10:53
davmor2bigcalm: landscape?11:01
bigcalmNot for this client. But it did cross my mind as well11:01
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davmor2bigcalm: other alternative install byobu it lets you know when there are updates and reboot's required, also if you tie that in with popey unattended updates you'll get an up-to-date security system that will tell you when there are optional updates and when the system needs a reboot for certain packages11:05
diploAs long as you login to said server :)11:19
KnightWorkhmm.. i need to setup a raspberry pi with a web - ssh interface. Will be pretty helpful to do stuff when i have nothing to do at work11:38
=== mhilton_ is now known as mhilton
brobostigonthats easy KnightWork11:43
KnightWorkbrobostigon: i know. I have a spare raspberry pi lying around that can do the trick11:44
brobostigon:) cool.11:45
zmoylan-piotherwise the budget would have killed the project outright... :-)11:47
diddledanmernin12:04
diddledanyey for generic mailouts from sales companies. Apparently eBay think I'm likely to be interested in Ann Summers bras and knickers. Well I am unsure how they found out about my weekend habbits...12:13
zmoylan-piin this heat you could use the bra as a double barrled water balloon launcher...12:15
diddledanlol12:15
hazrpghey all \o13:26
brobostigonhi hazrpg :)13:27
hazrpgI have a quick question for you guys, does anyone else suffer from the system locking up due to going into swap too often? I've noticed chrome seems to be the biggest culprit.13:27
hazrpgchromium doesn't seem to be any better either :(13:28
hazrpgbrobostigon: hey dude :)13:28
popeyi dont get that, no13:32
popeyI use tab suspender in chrome to pause tabs, which seems to help13:33
foobarryhazrpg: yes13:35
foobarryin the last 2 weeks13:35
foobarrymy stable system went unstable13:35
foobarryit has been fine for last coupel of years13:35
hazrpgpopey: I might have to revert to using that again, I use to use that when I had like 30+ tabs open, but now it seems my system has become unstable after around 10+ tabs - which just destroys my workflow... :(13:46
hazrpgfoobarry: I'm so glad its not just me then!13:47
hazrpgfoobarry: I did think it was weird that for years there was no problems and suddenly a stable ubunut become very unstable.13:47
popeyhow much ram?13:48
hazrpgI wonder if Google, or the lovely contribs of Chromium are trying to fix this, because it is very frustrating13:48
hazrpgpopey: varies, my work pc is around 8GB, laptop has 6GB and my colleague has around 8GB on his laptop, and 10GB on his PC - all with the same problems.13:49
popey  5.1 GiB + 171.7 MiB =   5.3 GiB       chrome (40)13:49
popeyho ho ho13:49
hazrpg?13:49
popeywhere my ram went13:50
popeyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11810213/13:50
hazrpgwowza13:52
hazrpgpopey: how much RAM do you have?13:53
popey1613:53
popeyGB :)13:55
foobarryhazrpg: i haz 8gb13:57
foobarryi've switched to firefox this week as a result13:57
popeyheh, i switched away from ff13:59
foobarrymy screen freezes and disk light comes on13:59
foobarryand its sudden13:59
foobarrymy window manager seems not to like low RAM, even if there is swap13:59
hazrpgfoobarry: We're having the exact same problem, we're toying with using FF instead too.14:05
foobarrystrange thing is i used to merrily use 50 tabs14:07
foobarrynow its a much lower number, i think chrome has changed something inthe last 2 weeks14:07
hazrpgfoobarry: I agree, I wish I could roll back a few versions before it broke but sadly my apt cache folder hasn't got any earlier versions in there for me to use :(14:08
foobarryi wonder if you can succesffully use ulimit14:14
foobarryto restrict the mems given to chrome14:14
popeywon't it then "ooh snap" when it runs out?14:15
foobarryhazrpg: could always try the beta version14:18
popeythats even less stable IME14:19
popeyI went to unstable and then went back, but couldn't because my profile had been upgraded14:19
popeyso had to delete it and start agian14:19
foobarrybut might show quite quikcly if the RAM muncher is dead14:19
celestehHi, I have a friend who is having a weird network configuration issue where both the BBC and Netflix think she is connecting from outside the UK. She was able to sort out the netflix part by changing DNS servers, but still can't access iplayer. Any advice?14:21
foobarryit sometimes happens celesteh14:22
foobarrychannel4 on youtube often used to complain14:23
foobarrythen the next day it would be OK14:23
foobarrybut netblocks of IPs are wrongly reported with geoIP i think14:23
foobarrytry to get a different IP address from teh adsl provider by turning off the router overnight?14:23
celestehthanks, foobary. i'll suggest it14:24
celestehUnfortunate when it happens during a world cup semifinal :(14:25
popeyalso, you can contact the bbc about it14:25
popeyso they can fix it14:25
popeyhttps://ssl.bbc.co.uk/faqs/forms/adverts-uk/?eid=&id=VQC3NSDMRLCRQH4UEVM1L0I2GK&mid=&uid=47817899714:26
popeylinked from http://www.bbc.co.uk/faqs/online/website_changes14:26
foobarryfirefox doesn't scroll thru tabs with the scroll wheel :(14:27
celestehcheers!14:27
popeyi only ever do that by accident14:27
celestehOh yeah, the firefox thing is a bother. i keep trying to scroll and it clicks on the tabs instead.14:28
AzelphurHey folks, I just built a new home server on a Gigabyte B85M-D2V which has a Realtek  RTL8111/8168/8411 NIC. It doesn't work, doesn't show up in ifconfig. I read some stuff which says to install r8168-dkms, which I did, but it still doesn't work, I get "module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel" out of ideas, halp? :)14:28
foobarrydoes dmesg or syslog show any more info?14:29
Azelphurfoobarry: https://dl.pushbulletusercontent.com/r7pvrGfAnPae7UGcoAjvWem7ifbxCTXU/IMG_20150702_153009.jpg14:30
foobarrywhere did u download the driver?14:32
popeyis it configured in /etc/network/interfaces?14:32
Azelphurhttp://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/r/r8168/r8168-dkms_8.039.00-1_all.deb14:32
foobarryhttp://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#214:32
popeysudo ifup p2p114:32
popeyor sudo dhclient p2p114:32
popeywhy do you need the driver?14:33
Azelphurpopey: sudo ifup p2p1 -> Ignoring unknown interface p2p1=p2p114:33
foobarrygood point popey, the module seems loaded14:33
AzelphurMaybe you're right though and I've made incorrect assumptions about the driver14:33
popeyis it in /etc/network/interfaces ?14:33
Azelphurno14:33
popeyit should be :)14:34
AzelphurAdding auto p2p1 | iface p2p1 inet dhcp | iface p2p1 inet6 auto14:34
Azelphurand rebooting :)14:34
Azelphurit shows up in ifconfig now, but isn't connecting, dhclient p2p1 seems to hang.14:35
popeydodgy cable?14:36
Azelphurtesting with laptop...14:36
Azelphurhelps if I plug cable in, works now :)14:37
diddledanyawn14:38
Azelphurhad it unplugged last night when I was fiddling trying to get it working lol14:38
Azelphurpopey: so yea, just needed adding to /etc/network/interfaces I guess, I clearly went down the wrong path there :)14:38
Azelphurwhelp next problem, looks like kvm is broke, probably because I just switched from AMD to Intel and it's all set up wrong?14:41
Azelphur"Error starting domain: unsupported configuration: guest and host CPU are not compatible: Host CPU does not provide required features: misalignsse, sse4a, svm"14:41
Azelphurfixed it, woo, now I'm all up and running again14:43
foobarrynow go and eat ice cream14:43
Azelphursounds tempting14:43
popeyAzelphur: yay!14:44
diddledanicecream!!!?!14:47
diddledanI WANT ICE CREAM!14:47
Azelphurhttps://owncloud.azelphur.com/index.php/s/FBYqZQ7y5Vd9K3Y so shiny :)14:47
diddledanAzelphur: that's nice14:48
diddledanI do like that it has storage for 10 disks14:48
Azelphuryea, gives me a lot of room for expansion14:48
diddledanit's a nice case14:49
Azelphurindeed, really like it14:49
diddledanalso it's a fractal design which are usually pretty well thought-out cases14:49
Azelphurphew, the CPU still takes a major beating doing transcoding14:50
Azelphurhttps://owncloud.azelphur.com/index.php/s/Ah00Nl8CVWhpSG8 hehe14:57
TwistedLucidityAzelphur: You appear to have bought a black box, and a smaller black box. Congrats! :-P14:58
diddledanlol14:58
diddledanTwistedLucidity: say it like it is14:58
Azelphurand a smaller black box? o.O14:58
diddledanAzelphur: with wires poking out14:58
Azelphuroh I see, the PSU and case :P14:59
Azelphuramusingly, I had the PSU laying around, bought it years ago14:59
TwistedLucidityAnd you shouldn't be transcoding - that's a crime.14:59
TwistedLucidityDigital thief!14:59
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: https://xkcd.com/488/ :)14:59
TwistedLucidityI wish I had time to do something more proper-er with my own home server15:02
diddledanlol15:03
diddledanmore propererer15:03
TwistedLucidityGot KVM on it, ownCloud and then...well...life15:04
diddledanmine's running freenas15:04
TwistedLucidityWant to bung a DLNA server on there but...life15:04
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: Emby functions as a DLNA server along with a bunch of other stuff and is real easy to set up15:06
AzelphurEmby is very polished15:06
TwistedLucidityEmby is a new one, was thinking of using "Universal Media Server" as it did transcoding etc15:07
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: emby does transcoding, and it has a web panel and will stream anything from your collection to you in HTML5/WebM15:07
TwistedLuciditySo does UMS, seems I may need to check out Emby15:08
Azelphurfun15:08
TwistedLucidityAlso need to figure out how to do multicast-proxying.15:08
Azelphuremby handles metadata and will act as a backend for kodi too15:08
TwistedLucidityOr how to correctly firewall the "smart" TVs15:08
Azelphurhehe15:09
mappsgoing to a europa league qualifier in a min;D15:34
diddledanmapps: are you sure you're qualified to do that?15:47
diddledanoh right, it's a qualifier, so they'll tell you whether you are afterwards?15:47
diddledanyey for someone bringing the idiot kanye down-a-notch: http://www.msn.com/en-gb/music/news/glastonbury-2015-comedian-lee-nelson-invades-stage-during-kanye-set/ar-AAcfij6?ocid=spartandhp15:48
diddledanoh, is there a new-fangled thing called iphone then? http://view.email.argos.co.uk/?j=fe8f10727c6d077c71&m=fe9915707462007a76&ls=fe2d15707c6c067f701576&l=ff61167871&s=fe6915767760067c7314&jb=ff66167173&ju=fe1815777c66037a731d77&ET_cid=4299314&ET_rid=16242160&r=015:49
diddledan"get set for iphone"15:50
diddledanthe greek bailout is nearly at 1.5meeleon!15:51
diddledanthat's nearly a whole percentage15:51
diddledan(0.1% is nearly a whole, right?)15:52
daftykinstotally!15:53
mappslol diddledan the footie15:58
mappsgoing to watch15:58
mappscollege europa v slovan bratislava15:58
bigcalmIs there a way of seeing what disks are in a server but not mounted?16:15
bigcalmGot it, sudo sfdisk -l16:18
bigcalmTa16:18
diddledanbigcalm: glad I could help16:20
davmor2bigcalm: did you resolve the switch issue in the end?16:35
bigcalmdavmor2: nope. Didn't have time to do anything else with it that day. Not back in the office until next week16:36
diddledanwhere oh where has my leccy gone!17:21
davmor2diddledan: I think you missed the dear liza, dear liza off the end of that17:45
knightwisedamn its hot20:11
daftykinsmmhmm20:12
zmoylan-piwe're rapidly reaching the point where the only way to breath is open a window and stick your head in a building...20:17
diddledanmethinks the leccy guys are in for a long night20:19
diddledanthey've just discovered that the fault is roughly directly underneath a load of buses and a fence20:19
diddledanthey haven't started digging that bit yet20:20
daftykinsyour neighbourhood got a blackout?20:20
diddledanjust a bunch of flats in my building afaict20:21
diddledan(not the whole building, however)20:21
daftykinsah20:22
daftykinsyou're in a tall thing?20:22
zmoylan-piall those poor smartphone users.  having to start friday with a half charged smart phone...20:22
daftykins:D20:22
diddledannah, a quadrangle20:22
diddledanI might have a photo I can share. just a sec20:23
daftykinsnow the gov will know where your HQ is :O20:23
zmoylan-pididdledan will post a pic of mi6 hq to throw them off20:25
diddledanthis is one side - consider that the building also goes behind the camera: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=847812CA14CFDA17!261207&authkey=!AIWlkCY-6fxEubo&v=3&ithint=photo%2cNEF20:26
diddledanhere's an arty farty different angle: http://1drv.ms/1CO7My120:27
diddledanI would get the original of that arty farty one but the pc it's on is offline due to lack of powers20:27
dogmatic69_wtf, just restarted ubuntu and could not log in. 'cant start session'20:27
dogmatic69_dropped to terminal and had to install ubuntu-session.20:27
diddledanthe "fault" is under one of those garden things20:28
dogmatic69_this upgrade to latest version has been less than ideal.20:28
daftykinso020:28
daftykinsdist-upgrade?20:28
diddledan\o/20:28
dogmatic69_I upgraded a while ago, restarted a couple times20:28
dogmatic69_actually did not even restart now, I logged out win+L key20:28
diddledanonly got 1 hour left on the battery in this pc20:28
dogmatic69_came back and borked20:29
diddledandogmatic69 how did you upgrade? do-release-upgrade or manual?20:36
diddledan(the ui counts under do-release-upgrade)20:37
dogmatic69_do-release-upgrade20:42
dogmatic69_in terminal20:42
diddledanhmm that should be fine20:42
diddledanI wonder what went wonky...20:42
dogmatic69_and it completely broke my system.. after it kinda finished I had 1500 packages that were in limbo20:42
diddledanunrelated: "kill the messenger" looks like an intriguing film20:42
dogmatic69_had to manually sort them out20:42
diddledanouch20:42
diddledanthat's crazay20:43
dogmatic69_ye20:43
dogmatic69_wonder if I should risk .04 -> .10 now...20:43
diddledanlol20:43
dogmatic69_and it boned my vbox install20:43
dogmatic69_could not start anything, and now its broken again20:44
dogmatic69_no shared folders mount20:44
daftykinso020:45
diddledanthe synopsis for nbc's series "odyssey" sounds like a good plot, too20:49
zmoylan-pimust be good, cancelled after 1 season20:50
diddledanreally?20:51
zmoylan-pihttp://variety.com/2015/tv/news/american-odyssey-cancelled-nbc-season-2-1201524230/20:51
diddledanare we back?20:52
diddledanpower is slowly returning20:53
diddledanthings are firing up20:53
diddledanit's like a jet engine slowly starting in here20:53
diddledanand back20:58
pashamanhello22:19
pashamananyone else here have an ASUS UX305FA Zenbook laptop?22:20
pashamanI'm having issues with the laptop brightness keyboard function keys.  Wondering if anyone else had this issue and what they did to correct it.22:22
pashamandisplay brightness function keys, I meant to say.22:22
pashamanAnyone one of you alive in here?22:23
pashaman of the dead.22:23
daftykinshrmm rather patient user there23:05
diddledanpower's off again23:47
balldiddledan: Caused by the heat?23:48
diddledanno idea23:48
diddledanthey're digging up a large swathe of garden in the courtyard23:48
ballAh, JCBs'll do it, too.23:49
diddledanno, they're digging the garden to fix it23:49
ballI wish I hadn't just bought my wife a Mac.23:49
diddledanoops23:50
diddledan:-p23:50
ballIt started with an iPad a few years ago, then I got her an iPhone. Now I'm trying to bring it all together but MacOS X and iTunes seem ...suboptimal.23:51
diddledanit's a slippery slope23:55
diddledannext it'll be a watch23:55
daftykins:D23:59
daftykinsand then a divorce *ba-dum-tish*23:59
daftykinssorry.23:59

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