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stickynesshttp://chimurengachronic.co.za/writing-the-city-in-a-different-script/05:07
stickynessWriting Afrikaans in Arabic script. Lekker!05:07
mazalMornings06:06
ThatGraemeGuymorning all06:21
mazalMorning ThatGraemeGuy Kilos06:26
Kiloshi mazal  ThatGraemeGuy  barrydk  inetpro  MaNI  and others06:27
ThatGraemeGuy'lo 'lo06:28
stickynesshttp://chimurengachronic.co.za/writing-the-city-in-a-different-script/06:31
stickynessKilos: ^^^ Afrikaans in Arabic script... from 100 years ago.06:31
stickynessPretty cool.06:31
MaNImorning06:31
Kiloshaha06:31
mazalInternal server error06:31
Kilosoi06:31
mazalWhen I fllow that link06:32
Kilosme too06:34
Kilosstickyness  where are you now?06:35
stickynessKilos:In Nairobi. Flying to Istanbul in 2 minutes.06:36
stickynessGotta go.06:36
mazalOk that's new , for a change it's not just me breaking something lol :)06:37
Kilosgo safe06:37
stickynessKilos:Yes, the link was posted on a popular website. It must be hammered right now.06:37
Kiloslol06:37
stickynessTry in a few hours.06:37
Kilosyeah bust06:37
stickynessIt's very interesting about language and typography.06:37
Kilosok06:37
stickynessPeace06:37
Kilosgo well06:37
Kilosai!06:37
inetprogood mornings everyone06:37
mazalLo inetpro06:38
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://mostexclusivewebsite.com/06:38
Kilosyoohooo Morning inetpro  \06:38
pieter2627morning all06:47
Kiloshi pieter2627  06:47
pieter2627it seems to be heating up again06:48
Kilosnono06:48
Kilosim still ice06:48
* pieter2627 sleeping under one blanket again06:48
Kiloswow06:48
Kilospenguin genes06:49
pieter2627yea two made me a bit sick two weeks ago06:49
Kilossjoe06:49
Kilosi got 3 blankets and a duvet thing06:50
pieter2627at the worst i had three layers - the third was a small SA flag thingy around my legs06:51
Kilossjoe06:52
pieter2627'sjoe' - oom nog steeds koud :p06:52
Kilosek slaap lekker maar voor ek al die klere aan het is ek koud06:53
pieter2627haha06:54
Kilosand my poor mouse hand really suffers06:57
barrydkMore almal06:58
pieter2627more barrydk 07:00
pieter2627Kilos: fingerless cloves07:00
Kilosits the fingers that are the worst07:01
pieter2627hey, but heating the hand up to the fingers actually warms the fingers07:02
pieter2627and one can still work07:02
Kiloslol if you got penguin blood ya07:02
* pieter2627 adapted well this winter, but used them a lot last year07:03
Kilosi just need to shave off 30 years then ill be fine again07:04
pieter2627ah ok, do you know the shaver you will need :P07:05
Kiloslol07:05
* pieter2627 dink dis n skaap skêr07:05
Kilosek het een van hulle ook07:05
Kilostot die skape bang hom in die winter07:05
pieter2627hulle lyk altyd so happy na die tyd07:06
Kilosja 07:06
* mazal fiddles07:09
nuvolario/07:12
nuvolarimorning oom Kilos 07:13
nuvolarilo pieter2627, mazal, barrydk07:13
Kiloslo nuvolari  gaanit seun?07:14
mazalLo nuvolari07:14
pieter2627ola nuvolari 07:20
Kiloshmm...08:14
KilosSubOracle  greetings to you08:14
Kiloswhy dont you ever say anything?08:15
Kilosoh afk atm08:15
Kiloshi Cryterion  09:08
CryterionMorning09:08
mazalMorning shark09:09
* mazal runs away09:09
Kiloslol09:09
Cryterionlol09:10
ThatGraemeGuymmm09:10
* ThatGraemeGuy kills the shark and makes biltong09:10
Kiloshaha09:11
mazalCryterion: How goes ? You are scarce09:11
Cryterionda dun da dun da dun09:11
Kilosshark meat is actually very lekker09:11
CryterionBeen a bit busy later09:11
Kilosand no bones like other fish09:11
Cryterionlately*09:11
ThatGraemeGuyI've never had shark meat, only biltong09:11
ThatGraemeGuywhat? sharks have no bones?09:11
* Cryterion swims away09:11
Kilosvery lekker when done in batter like hake09:12
Kilosbetter than hake09:12
ThatGraemeGuysies, batter09:12
Kilosthey have main centre bones but not millions like other fish09:12
mazalKilos: What fish is hake actually ?09:12
KilosMaaz  define hake09:13
MaazKilos: Hake \Hake\ (h[=a]k), n. [See {Hatch} a half door.] A drying shed, as for unburned tile. [1913 Webster], Hake \Hake\, n. [Also {haak}.] [Akin to Norweg. hakefisk, lit., hook fish, Prov. E. hake hook, G. hecht pike. See {Hook}.] (Zool.) One of several species of marine gadoid fishes, of the genera {Phycis}, {Merlucius}, and allies. The common European hake is09:13
Maaz{Merlucius vulgaris}; the American silver hake or whiting is {Merlucius bilinearis}. Two…09:13
mazalFriend of mine recons it's shark as there is no fish called hake hehehe09:13
ThatGraemeGuyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hake09:13
mazalI'll point him there when he says it again09:14
* mazal goes for sb09:14
mazalOok Kilos , my 2nd drive arrived. Now I must find the lus to install it hehehehe09:24
mazalThat one for my home server09:24
Kiloslol09:25
Kiloswhats size and type of drive mazal  09:25
mazal2TB Western Digital green09:25
mazal3.5" internal09:26
Kilosis it for another pc or just storage09:26
mazalIs for extra space on my server that backups must run to , so just storage09:26
Kilosaha09:26
Kilosyou gonna raid them? or just use for backup09:27
mazalAll those games that must be backed up somewhere :P09:27
mazalKilos: I really want to learn raid , but then I won't have space again. This must stay seperate for now09:28
Kilosah09:28
mazalThen my 2x 2TB becomes 1x 2TB and I am back where I were09:28
Kilosyeah 09:28
Kilosbut good for a server for when one crashes09:29
mazalCurrently 1x 2TB drive in , which is not enough09:29
Kilosall games?09:29
Kilossjoe09:29
mazalNope , lots of videos also09:29
mazalThe video is more than the games , but the games always gets the blame09:29
Kiloswhat do you save videos for09:29
Kilosi watch them then dump them09:30
mazalI convert all my dvd's to video files. Then stream them to PS3 that is hooked up on tv09:30
mazalSo when I want to watch a movie I just start up PS3 and watch09:30
Kilosah09:30
mazalI'm one of those people who buy the movies I like for my collection and can watch them over and over again09:31
Kiloslol09:31
mazalAnd this way the DVD disks itself stays protect as it doesn't get used after converting09:31
mazalI have a few very old ones , but doesn't have a single scratch. I always try and look after my things09:32
Kilosyou cant take them with you when you die hey09:32
mazalI know , but that's no reason to abuse things that cost you plenty money. Someone else can get it when I am gone09:33
Kilosno man sell them again09:33
mazalNo , then I must delete the files09:33
Kilosthen buy lotsa useful things09:33
mazalThat would be stealing if I keep the files and sell the disks09:33
Kiloseish09:34
mazalYeah , I am not pirating09:34
Kilosthat isnt pirating if you buy them copy for own use09:35
mazalBut you may not sell the original then09:35
Kilosif you sell files then ya09:35
Kiloswhy not09:35
mazalIf you sell the original disk and keep the file , then it is the same as if you downloaded it from internet09:35
Kilosjust more expensive09:36
Kilosyoull only be able to sell for 1/2 price anyway09:36
mazalIs the same as if you sell any software you own , you must then uninstall it09:36
Kiloshmm...09:38
Kiloswell put me in your will to inherit all you pcs09:39
Kilosand your xboxes and playatations09:40
mazalMy brother gets all09:41
Kilosah is he geeky too09:41
mazalInstructions are: "Take my keys and clean out everything"09:41
Kilossjoe09:41
mazalLike you said , I aint taking it with me, I couldn't care less what becomes of it09:42
Kiloslol09:42
mazalThey can sell it , keep it , whatever09:42
mazalBut that is only in the event it's suddon09:43
mazalIf I see it coming in any way I will distrubute myself before hand09:43
Kilossudden09:43
grembleGood morning everyone09:56
Kiloshi gremble  09:56
grembleHow are you doing Kilos ?09:56
Kilosgood ty and you?09:57
grembleI am well thank you09:57
grembleConsidering a reinstallation of this laptop but I don't know if I want to go through all the work09:57
gremblehaha09:57
Kiloswill of course be better when summer comes09:57
Kilossjoe09:58
Kiloswhy you want to reinstall?09:58
grembleAs you learn how to use the system, you realise all the dumb shit that you did when you initially set the system up10:00
Kiloslol10:00
grembleMy python installation is broken and a bunch of my other stuff are also set up inappropriately10:00
gremblehaha10:00
Kiloswhat os are you using?10:01
grembleArch linux10:01
Kilosah10:01
ThatGraemeGuythat's just a natural consequence then10:01
* ThatGraemeGuy runs away10:02
grembleIt is10:02
Kiloslol10:02
grembleBut it is good10:02
grembleThe linux kernel is on 4 already10:12
grembleGosh where the time goes10:12
Kilosinetpro  can you keep the 29th at 8.30 open to chair?10:46
magespawngood afternnon11:35
magespawnafternoon too11:35
Kiloshi magespawn  11:35
Kilosi dont know if we have peeps here with diabetes probs but found this link11:47
Kiloshttp://src.easyhealthoptions.com/ego/9b5efa29-1c54-45c9-b8d7-d6f89aff49fa/401863400/30783211:47
Kilosim not gonna watch the video but they say this will make lotsa companies that make diabetes meds go broke if it gets out11:49
MaNIegh, not another of these 'diabetes can be solved by eating differently people'11:57
* mazal returns from a lekka lunch11:57
mazalGrrr , I hate when I can't find my commands11:59
mazalWhat's the point of putting everything in manuals if you can't find the manual12:00
mazalWhy can't I have item frames on my folders lol12:01
MaNII usually find the manual has everything except what I want to know12:01
mazalhehehe , that happens too12:02
mazaloom Kilos , make note :12:03
mazalDevelop better storage system for Ubuntu tips and manuals12:03
zeorinHi all, I've got a quick question. If I wanted to rent a mid-range laptop with Ubuntu pre-installed for a week, are there any companies in Johannesburg that could help out with that?12:14
Kiloslol12:17
Kiloshi zeorin  welcome to ubuntu-za12:18
zeorinHi Kilos, thanks12:22
zeorinI'm a long-time Ubuntu user, and I have to work on-site for a client for a week12:22
zeorinI have a beefy desktop and a small 10 inch Asus Transformer Bay Trail x86 tablet12:23
zeorinBoth are running Ubuntu12:23
Kilosim just trying to think12:23
zeorinBut the tablet is not up to the tasks of proper work and the desktop is too much of a mission to move, so I'd rather rent an Ubuntu laptop somewhere12:23
Kilosdont know if youll find a company that does that but many some private guy12:24
zeorinEven a company that will allow me to install Ubuntu on the laptop is good enough (I imagine they might just re-image the machines when they get them back anyway).12:24
KilosMaaz  google laptops for hire in johannesburg12:24
MaazKilos: "Short Term Hire - Spartan" http://www.spartan.co.za/short-term-hire/ :: "Red Cherry Computer Rentals | Johannesburg Laptop Rentals ..." http://www.redcherryrentals.co.za/ :: "South Africa's leading technology rental company | Daily Hire ..." http://www.gorentals.co.za/ :: "Cape Town laptop and computer rentals delivered to your door"12:25
Maazhttp://www.rentware.co.za/ :: "Laptop Rental Specialists - Laptop and Computer Rental - 021 880 ..." http://www.…12:25
Kiloszeorin  you must visit here more often, or even all the time like most of us12:25
zeorinPerhaps I should. I've been running Ubuntu pretty much since it started12:26
zeorinI remember having the disks sent to me12:26
Kiloscool, why you take so long to find us?12:26
Kilosyeah12:26
Kilosdo you see any in the links the bot gave zeorin  ?12:27
Kiloshi andrewlsd  12:31
andrewlsdHi all12:31
andrewlsdHi Kilos 12:31
andrewlsdam playing with ubuntu openstack: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack12:32
zeorinHi Kilos, just got a call from Gorentals12:34
zeorinThey supply linux laptops, too12:34
zeorinAnd they format their machines on receipt anyway, so I could even just install Ubuntu on one of their Windoze laptops if necessary12:35
mazalbye for now everyone12:36
Kiloscool zeorin  thats good news12:36
Kiloscan i ask what they charge per week?12:36
zeorinThey're just checking stock before sending me a quote... But there's a Windows Core i5 HP / Dell 4GB RAM 640GB HD for R 800/week: http://www.gorentals.co.za/store/products/professional-core-i5-notebook-rental/12:39
zeorinThat's with Win 7 and without insurance12:39
Kiloseish12:39
zeorinMonthly is R 1099 though12:39
Kiloswho want to hire a windows lappy anyway12:40
Kilosyou will get corrupted12:40
andrewlsdzeorin: why you renting a laptop?12:43
zeorinOh, I'm a freelance web dev, usually work from home, but need to be on site at a client for a week12:44
zeorinI've got a small Bay Trail 10" tablet/netbook thing with Ubuntu but I can't stand the thought of using that 8hrs/day for a whole week--it's fine for popping in to an Internet café, but not for that12:46
andrewlsdtrue.12:47
andrewlsdIdea is good if you only need the device for a month or two.12:47
andrewlsdinsurance probably adds R500/month.12:47
Kilosai!12:50
MaNII need to hire one so that I can swap the battery pack for my dead one :p12:50
Kiloslol12:51
Kilosyou lucky mazhas gone12:51
Kiloshe would tell you you stealing12:52
KilosMaNI  what do batteries cost12:52
MaNIprobably about ~R700 from what I can tell as its an import12:52
Kilossjoe12:53
MaNIits in that akward region where you almost feel like you should just upgrade your laptop12:53
MaNItheoretically a repack should be better value for money though it doesn't seem like lots of places do it12:54
Kiloswhats a repack?12:54
MaNIopen the plastic up and put generic batteries in, instead of buying a whole new sealed pack12:54
Kilosoh12:54
Kiloswb zeorin  12:55
zeorinthanks, dunno what happened12:55
Kilosthe wonderful internet12:56
zeorinLol actually I killed my terminal window12:56
zeorinBut I can't recall why12:56
Kiloslol12:57
Kiloswhen you not busy zeorin  look at our 2 sites12:59
Kiloshttps://ubuntu-za.org  and http://ubuntu-africa.info12:59
zeorinSites are working fine. They feel a little out of touch with the current Ubuntu web site designs but no train smash13:03
zeorinAre they not attracting the attention you'd like?13:03
Kilosthe second one is new so still growing13:04
Kiloshaha you tweet as well13:04
Kilosthats one of mine is never used and @sharpeys only when i wanna moan to isps13:05
zeorinIt's amazing how service improves once the complaint's on social media13:07
Kilosyeah13:09
Kiloslol13:09
Kilosoh you can follow @ubuntuza13:09
Kiloswe announce monthly meetings and za related stuff there13:09
zeorinJust did13:10
Kiloscool13:10
zeorinAre any of you involved in the JLUG?13:10
Kilossome of the guys are but they arent here atm13:10
Kilosjozilug?13:10
Kiloswe have odd guys from all the lugs in and out13:11
zeorinOK. I'm not very involved with any LUGS, but I do attend the odd event here and there13:11
Kilosah13:11
zeorinI really should hang out more with Linux people. I'm always the odd one out when it comes to OS's13:12
Kilosoh when you looked at our second site you didnt try refreshing a few times13:12
Kilosthe background changes13:12
zeorinchanging hero image13:12
zeorincool13:12
Kilosour sites are both static and built with bzr and nikola13:13
zeorinI saw that13:13
pieter2627hi and welcome zeorin 13:13
zeorinHi Pieter, thanks13:14
pieter2627out of curiosity, which web dev do you do?13:14
zeorinI'm primarily a front-end developer13:15
zeorinBeen doing it for 16 years (first as a hobby)13:15
zeorinCurrently moving towards more JavaScript SPA web apps than actual web sites, though I still do those, too13:16
pieter2627SPA?13:16
zeorinSingle Page Application13:16
zeorinSorry, I'll try to avoid industry-specific jargon and acronyms13:17
Kilosnp no rules here except be nice13:17
pieter2627np, those that care usually know them anyway13:18
* pieter2627 just did not know that one13:18
zeorinAnd what do you do for a living?13:18
* pieter2627 now wonders who was asked - should maybe not have hijacked Kilos' conversation13:21
Kilosnono pieter2627  he meant you13:21
zeorinBoth actually.13:22
pieter2627rofl13:22
Kilosjulle praat bo oor my kop13:22
zeorinI'm always interested what other Linux/Ubuntu people actually do for a living13:22
Kilosim a greeter bot for ubuntu-za and ubuntu-africa13:22
zeorinI think you might pass a Turing test, in that case13:23
Kiloswhats that?13:23
zeorinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test13:23
Kiloscant remember last time i had to pass any tests13:23
* pieter2627 is a student having a year off - also does some freelance web dev in spare time and when having enough guts13:23
Kilosi can only explain me by giving my wiki page13:24
zeorinThat WP article is huge, basically a program that can pass a Turing test is indistinguishable from a human in a text-based conversation13:25
Kilossjoe13:25
Kilosno man i do as little as possible13:25
Kilosothers do my thinking for me13:25
pieter2627Kilos: he is pondering as to whether you are a real bot13:26
Kiloshaha13:26
pieter2627and you are not helping...13:26
zeorinNah, I know he's really just a street: https://www.google.co.za/maps?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=993&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.96952980,d.ZGU&ion=1&q=Miles+Sharp+Street&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=_DuVVez2LeTd7QanxIuoAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ13:26
zeorinIn Benoni13:27
Kiloshaha you know that13:27
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos13:27
Kilosoh zeorin  we have lots of work for you to do13:28
Kilosjoin our mailing list and launchpad13:28
zeorinI signed up to the mailing list just now13:29
Kiloshttps://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za13:29
zeorinI don't think I'm on launchpad myself...13:29
Kilosoh my after all this time on ubuntu13:30
Kilossjoe13:30
zeorinYeah I know13:30
zeorinI guess I never really got into the community side of things13:30
zeorinMy first linux was debian 3.013:30
Kiloswe have fun here13:30
zeorinOnly had 56k modem so I paid a company to mail me the install disks13:31
Kilosai!13:31
zeorinBack then there wasn't really a community to speak of, and I guess I never reconsidered that as time went on13:31
Kilosmost of our guys are here at night because of work loads but when peeps ask for help and i give wrong info someone jumps in13:33
Kiloshehe13:33
andrewlsdhey zeorin, here's a big smile and wave13:34
zeorinHi andrewlsd!13:35
andrewlsdKilos: how's the mining (minetest) going?13:36
Kilosi gave up andrewlsd  uses too much data13:36
zeorinCryptocurrency mining?13:37
andrewlsdI gave up, couldn't figure any of it out. ;-P13:37
Kilosbut ThatGraemeGuy  and mazal and them live there13:37
andrewlsdnaah, zeorin Minetest (like minecraft)13:37
zeorinOh OK13:37
Kilosaw i was gonna help you13:37
Kilossorry13:38
ThatGraemeGuyeh13:39
ThatGraemeGuyoh, minetest13:39
ThatGraemeGuyI'd hardly say I live there13:39
Kiloslol13:40
ThatGraemeGuyhttp://mt.thatgraemeguy.co.za/cryterion.png13:41
ThatGraemeGuythat's our modest little world13:41
ThatGraemeGuySquirm: no need to be giving me work this late on a Thursday :-p13:45
ThatGraemeGuyor as I call it, my own personal Friday13:45
ThatGraemeGuynice to be off tomorrow13:45
ThatGraemeGuy:-D13:45
Kiloshaha13:45
SquirmThatGraemeGuy: well I'm sorry :P13:58
Squirmgive me access and I'll happily do it myself :)13:58
ThatGraemeGuylol14:03
Squirm:P14:05
SquirmThanks ThatGraemeGuy14:05
SquirmThough I'd check ^^14:05
ThatGraemeGuy:)14:05
SquirmYou know... Just incase I broke something :P14:12
SquirmSeeing as the boss is away14:13
SquirmI wish I had tomorrow off14:13
Kiloshaha14:13
magespawnhome time chat later all14:19
ThatGraemeGuyb....14:22
ThatGraemeGuyoh14:22
Kilosuh oh14:25
ThatGraemeGuyeh?14:29
Kilospros quassel crashed and flys is also broken14:30
Kilosi think pro is scared he gets some more work14:31
SquirmEverything is working. Home time :)14:42
Kiloswb inetpro  14:57
nuvolaripfft. Some people, those Capetonians go home soo early. No wonder they call it slaapstad15:01
Kiloslol15:02
MaNII'd comment but I don't even leave home to begin with15:11
Kiloshaha15:21
Kilosme too15:21
grembleWell that was fun15:23
Kilosdid you reinstall?15:28
Kilosproperly?15:28
Kiloshmm...15:30
Squirmlol nuvolari17:17
SquirmIf those Capetonians go home so early, where are you right now?17:17
Squirm:P17:18
Squirmand if you're not a Capetonian, then neither am I17:18
* Squirm sips his Jonkers Weiss17:18
Squirmand nuvolari, look at the moon17:19
SquirmActually, all of you17:19
SquirmLook up17:20
Squirmlol17:24
Kiloswhats with that ctcp request Squirm  17:34
Kilos[02/07/2015 19:20] [CTCP] Received unknown CTCP-NOTICE Look up! request from Squirm to Channel #ubuntu-za.17:35
Kilos3 times nogal17:35
SquirmHmm17:35
SquirmTried to NOTICE everyone :D17:35
Kiloslol17:35
SquirmYou know... Be annoying17:35
Kilosno more for you17:36
Squirm:/17:48
SquirmBut...!17:49
Kiloslol17:49
magespawngood evening17:57
Kiloshi magespawn  17:57
Kilosyou gonna try attend this months meeting17:57
Kilosand africa the next night17:57
Kiloswho_da_fly  ping17:58
magespawnubuntu-za meeting/17:58
magespawn?17:58
Kiloswhats broken17:58
Kilosyes magespawn  17:59
Kilos28th17:59
Kilosand ubuntu-africa the next night17:59
magespawni am usually at those, what time is the africa meeting?17:59
Kilossame time next day17:59
Kiloslike a launch meeting18:00
magespawnyes i will give it a go18:00
Kilosty18:00
magespawnin #ubuntu-africa?18:00
Kilosyessir18:00
magespawnokay 18:00
Kilosgracias18:00
Kilosi think it needs a meeting to try get them all more active18:01
magespawnare there a fair number of people showing interest/18:06
Kiloshehe i stole the pros agenda setup18:06
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricaTeams/Meetings18:06
Kilosthere are 12 of the 18 locos joined18:06
Kilosand i got a guy that sorts things there when i sukkel18:09
Kilosso pro gets some rest18:09
magespawnNice going, it would be a good idea if there are people who have friends in the other loco's, that way yhe word can be spread18:10
inetproai!18:11
inetprogood evening18:11
inetproKilos: why have https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricaTeams ?18:11
magespawnmaybe the others just have not heard about it yet18:11
Kilosthe second one i made today for agenda inetpro  18:11
Kilosand i didnt have help or guidance so made another page18:12
Kiloscheche says he will make it look better 18:12
inetproconsistent naming conventions will help everybody to stay focussed18:13
Kilosoh you getting at the n 18:13
inetproyebo yes18:13
Kiloswell18:13
inetprowell?18:14
Kilosif they have same name it gonna give probs wont it18:14
inetprono18:14
inetproyou don't make a page with the same name18:14
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricaTeams/agenda like that18:15
inetproyou have the master page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams and the rest of them under it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams/WhateverPageYouWant18:15
Kilosi prefer not using the n 18:15
Kilosoh my18:15
inetproanyone then knows that it belongs logically to AfricanTeams18:16
Kilosoh me oh my18:16
Kilosi didnt know one could do that18:17
Kiloshmm...18:17
inetproyour friend Neo31 is the guilty one who started with the "n"18:17
Kilosya and he has been scarce18:18
Kiloscant one remove wiki pages?18:18
Kilosor can one18:18
inetproeasy18:19
inetprojust choose delete 18:19
Kilosill get cheche to join them ands delete the not needed one18:20
Kilosbut not tonight, we have 2 meetings 20 and 22.00 utc18:21
inetprohmm... ok18:25
Kiloshe has to have colours in because he cant read black on white18:26
Kilosand i dont want to overload you18:26
Kilosbut now you got me thinking18:27
Kilosoh my now there is conflict error there 18:30
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams18:30
Kilosand i cant change the name18:30
Kilossigh18:30
Kiloslemme try on the other one18:31
inetproKilos: are you aware there is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USTeams ?18:31
Kilosi see so yes18:32
Kilosand?18:33
=== Russ_|Away is now known as rusbus
inetproKilos: copy paste ideas18:35
Kilostheir stuff is too involved18:35
rusbuso/18:36
Kiloshi rusbus  18:37
KilosEdit conflict - your version:18:38
Kiloswhy it shows that inetpro  what did neo put in there18:38
Kilosi got stuff mixed up18:38
Kiloshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricaTeams/Meetings18:39
Kilosjust now i get fired18:40
Kilosbetter to leave well enough alone18:40
Kilosbut it will be handier all on one wiki pag18:41
Kilose18:41
inetproKilos: ai!18:46
Kilosya ai!18:46
inetproyou put all the stuff from AfricanTeams into AfricaTeams/Meetings ?18:47
Kilosso i see ya18:47
Kilossigh18:47
Kilosand the other way as well18:47
inetproaijajai18:47
inetproreally!?18:48
Kiloswell its all in one place on them both so now its just fixing one and deleting the other18:48
inetproKilos: it's not that simple sir18:48
Kilosoh my18:49
inetprodo you realise that your website and many other places like blogs maybe poitning to AfricanTeams already?18:49
Kilosoh my too18:49
inetprowhy change something that just works18:49
Kiloswell look at the old one, i added the agenda stuff at the bottom18:50
Kilosand you wanted me to get stuff from usa teams as well18:52
inetproKilos: see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams/Meetings18:53
Kilosyou made that now?18:54
inetproyes18:54
inetproKilos: and your Agenda for the first meeting should go at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams/Meetings/2015072918:55
inetprologically structured to make sense18:55
Kilosoh18:55
Kilosi can try that then18:56
Kiloslike so https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AfricanTeams/Meetings/2015072918:57
inetprosort of18:59
Kilosuh oh18:59
=== who_da_fly is now known as superfly
Kiloswb superfly  what crashed18:59
superflyI don't know, trying to find out19:00
inetproKilos: if you want to copy wiki code from another page just go to the raw page before you start copying19:01
superflytoo far back, must have just timed out19:01
inetprofor example https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150728?action=raw19:01
Kilosoh19:02
inetproin other words, any page with '?action=raw' behind the page URL19:02
Kilossjoe19:02
inetproor simply select 'Raw Text' from the 'More Actions:'  dropdown19:03
Kilosoh inetpro  did you do it?19:06
inetprowhat?19:06
Kiloswhatever had to be done there, i see you had a lock there 8 mins ago19:07
Kilosand i dont see raw text or more options19:07
Kilosactions19:07
inetproai!19:09
inetprodon't talk in riddles oom Kilos19:09
Kilosrofl19:09
Kiloswhat are you talking about19:09
inetpro"whatever had to be done there"?19:10
Kilosoh19:10
Kilosi meant with the raw text thing'19:11
Kiloswhat did it do wrong with me copy/pasting it like i did?19:11
Kilosek kan als lees19:12
inetproKilos: no, clearly you did not copy and paste correctly19:12
Kilossee again im involved in stuff that greeter bots should leave for others19:13
Kilosoh did you see our new guy here today19:13
Kiloszeo something19:13
Kilosnother web dev guy19:16
KilosMaaz  seen golynx19:16
MaazKilos: golynx was last seen 7 months, 8 days, 23 hours, 23 minutes and 10 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-11-25 11:53:11 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-11-25 12:03:51 PST19:16
Kilossjoe19:17
Kilosoh my inetpro  i see now , things arent in there own lines19:26
inetproyes Kilos, and headings are messed up as well19:27
Kilosoh my19:27
inetproand there are no bullet points19:28
Kilosok lemme try the raw text thing19:29
Kilosi found the other actions thing on old link19:29
Kilosthat looks better, now to edit from scratch again19:32
Kilossigh19:32
Kilosi copied the za raw text19:33
inetproKilos: now obviously you do not want '<<Include(ZATeam/Meetings/2015Header)>>' as well19:36
inetprobut you could always create AfricanTeams/Meetings/2015Header from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/2015Header and then use the proper include trickery 19:38
Kiloseish man19:39
inetpromet eish ja19:39
Kilosi dunno trickery man19:40
Kilosand near meeting time19:40
inetproai!19:42
inetproKilos: with information that stays the same with each new page you use a "include" statement to work smarter rather than harder19:44
Kilossigh19:45
inetproput the common info in a separate page and just automagically include it, simple as that19:45
inetproedit once and use many times19:46
Kilosill have to check tomorrow again inetpro  19:48
* inetpro is in no rush19:49
Kilosi should have asked you to do it to start with19:49
Kilosi just messed up both19:49
Kilosas usual19:49
magespawntwice the peatice19:53
magespawnpractice19:53
Kiloslol19:53
Kilosi should even try anymore19:53
Kilosshouldnt19:53
Kilosit would be ok if it was a daily excercise19:53
Kilossjoe one done and one to go20:28
Kilosai! my inetpro  jy werk so hard vir my20:46
Kilosek het nog nie gekyk nie maar sien die eposse20:47
Kilosjy moet ook rus oompise20:47
Kilosoompie20:47
KilosMaaz  tell inetpro  ty very much21:03
MaazKilos: Okay, I'll tell inetpro on freenode21:03

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