[05:07] http://chimurengachronic.co.za/writing-the-city-in-a-different-script/ [05:07] Writing Afrikaans in Arabic script. Lekker! [06:06] Mornings [06:21] morning all [06:26] Morning ThatGraemeGuy Kilos [06:27] hi mazal ThatGraemeGuy barrydk inetpro MaNI and others [06:28] 'lo 'lo [06:31] http://chimurengachronic.co.za/writing-the-city-in-a-different-script/ [06:31] Kilos: ^^^ Afrikaans in Arabic script... from 100 years ago. [06:31] Pretty cool. [06:31] morning [06:31] haha [06:31] Internal server error [06:31] oi [06:32] When I fllow that link [06:34] me too [06:35] stickyness where are you now? [06:36] Kilos:In Nairobi. Flying to Istanbul in 2 minutes. [06:36] Gotta go. [06:37] Ok that's new , for a change it's not just me breaking something lol :) [06:37] go safe [06:37] Kilos:Yes, the link was posted on a popular website. It must be hammered right now. [06:37] lol [06:37] Try in a few hours. [06:37] yeah bust [06:37] It's very interesting about language and typography. [06:37] ok [06:37] Peace [06:37] go well [06:37] ai! [06:37] good mornings everyone [06:38] Lo inetpro [06:38] http://mostexclusivewebsite.com/ [06:38] yoohooo Morning inetpro \ [06:47] morning all [06:47] hi pieter2627 [06:48] it seems to be heating up again [06:48] nono [06:48] im still ice [06:48] * pieter2627 sleeping under one blanket again [06:48] wow [06:49] penguin genes [06:49] yea two made me a bit sick two weeks ago [06:49] sjoe [06:50] i got 3 blankets and a duvet thing [06:51] at the worst i had three layers - the third was a small SA flag thingy around my legs [06:52] sjoe [06:52] 'sjoe' - oom nog steeds koud :p [06:53] ek slaap lekker maar voor ek al die klere aan het is ek koud [06:54] haha [06:57] and my poor mouse hand really suffers [06:58] More almal [07:00] more barrydk [07:00] Kilos: fingerless cloves [07:01] its the fingers that are the worst [07:02] hey, but heating the hand up to the fingers actually warms the fingers [07:02] and one can still work [07:02] lol if you got penguin blood ya [07:03] * pieter2627 adapted well this winter, but used them a lot last year [07:04] i just need to shave off 30 years then ill be fine again [07:05] ah ok, do you know the shaver you will need :P [07:05] lol [07:05] * pieter2627 dink dis n skaap skêr [07:05] ek het een van hulle ook [07:05] tot die skape bang hom in die winter [07:06] hulle lyk altyd so happy na die tyd [07:06] ja [07:09] * mazal fiddles [07:12] o/ [07:13] morning oom Kilos [07:13] lo pieter2627, mazal, barrydk [07:14] lo nuvolari gaanit seun? [07:14] Lo nuvolari [07:20] ola nuvolari [08:14] hmm... [08:14] SubOracle greetings to you [08:15] why dont you ever say anything? [08:15] oh afk atm [09:08] hi Cryterion [09:08] Morning [09:09] Morning shark [09:09] * mazal runs away [09:09] lol [09:10] lol [09:10] mmm [09:10] * ThatGraemeGuy kills the shark and makes biltong [09:11] haha [09:11] Cryterion: How goes ? You are scarce [09:11] da dun da dun da dun [09:11] shark meat is actually very lekker [09:11] Been a bit busy later [09:11] and no bones like other fish [09:11] lately* [09:11] I've never had shark meat, only biltong [09:11] what? sharks have no bones? [09:11] * Cryterion swims away [09:12] very lekker when done in batter like hake [09:12] better than hake [09:12] sies, batter [09:12] they have main centre bones but not millions like other fish [09:12] Kilos: What fish is hake actually ? [09:13] Maaz define hake [09:13] Kilos: Hake \Hake\ (h[=a]k), n. [See {Hatch} a half door.] A drying shed, as for unburned tile. [1913 Webster], Hake \Hake\, n. [Also {haak}.] [Akin to Norweg. hakefisk, lit., hook fish, Prov. E. hake hook, G. hecht pike. See {Hook}.] (Zool.) One of several species of marine gadoid fishes, of the genera {Phycis}, {Merlucius}, and allies. The common European hake is [09:13] {Merlucius vulgaris}; the American silver hake or whiting is {Merlucius bilinearis}. Two… [09:13] Friend of mine recons it's shark as there is no fish called hake hehehe [09:13] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hake [09:14] I'll point him there when he says it again [09:14] * mazal goes for sb [09:24] Ook Kilos , my 2nd drive arrived. Now I must find the lus to install it hehehehe [09:24] That one for my home server [09:25] lol [09:25] whats size and type of drive mazal [09:25] 2TB Western Digital green [09:26] 3.5" internal [09:26] is it for another pc or just storage [09:26] Is for extra space on my server that backups must run to , so just storage [09:26] aha [09:27] you gonna raid them? or just use for backup [09:27] All those games that must be backed up somewhere :P [09:28] Kilos: I really want to learn raid , but then I won't have space again. This must stay seperate for now [09:28] ah [09:28] Then my 2x 2TB becomes 1x 2TB and I am back where I were [09:28] yeah [09:29] but good for a server for when one crashes [09:29] Currently 1x 2TB drive in , which is not enough [09:29] all games? [09:29] sjoe [09:29] Nope , lots of videos also [09:29] The video is more than the games , but the games always gets the blame [09:29] what do you save videos for [09:30] i watch them then dump them [09:30] I convert all my dvd's to video files. Then stream them to PS3 that is hooked up on tv [09:30] So when I want to watch a movie I just start up PS3 and watch [09:30] ah [09:31] I'm one of those people who buy the movies I like for my collection and can watch them over and over again [09:31] lol [09:31] And this way the DVD disks itself stays protect as it doesn't get used after converting [09:32] I have a few very old ones , but doesn't have a single scratch. I always try and look after my things [09:32] you cant take them with you when you die hey [09:33] I know , but that's no reason to abuse things that cost you plenty money. Someone else can get it when I am gone [09:33] no man sell them again [09:33] No , then I must delete the files [09:33] then buy lotsa useful things [09:33] That would be stealing if I keep the files and sell the disks [09:34] eish [09:34] Yeah , I am not pirating [09:35] that isnt pirating if you buy them copy for own use [09:35] But you may not sell the original then [09:35] if you sell files then ya [09:35] why not [09:35] If you sell the original disk and keep the file , then it is the same as if you downloaded it from internet [09:36] just more expensive [09:36] youll only be able to sell for 1/2 price anyway [09:36] Is the same as if you sell any software you own , you must then uninstall it [09:38] hmm... [09:39] well put me in your will to inherit all you pcs [09:40] and your xboxes and playatations [09:41] My brother gets all [09:41] ah is he geeky too [09:41] Instructions are: "Take my keys and clean out everything" [09:41] sjoe [09:42] Like you said , I aint taking it with me, I couldn't care less what becomes of it [09:42] lol [09:42] They can sell it , keep it , whatever [09:43] But that is only in the event it's suddon [09:43] If I see it coming in any way I will distrubute myself before hand [09:43] sudden [09:56] Good morning everyone [09:56] hi gremble [09:56] How are you doing Kilos ? [09:57] good ty and you? [09:57] I am well thank you [09:57] Considering a reinstallation of this laptop but I don't know if I want to go through all the work [09:57] haha [09:57] will of course be better when summer comes [09:58] sjoe [09:58] why you want to reinstall? [10:00] As you learn how to use the system, you realise all the dumb shit that you did when you initially set the system up [10:00] lol [10:00] My python installation is broken and a bunch of my other stuff are also set up inappropriately [10:00] haha [10:01] what os are you using? [10:01] Arch linux [10:01] ah [10:01] that's just a natural consequence then [10:02] * ThatGraemeGuy runs away [10:02] It is [10:02] lol [10:02] But it is good [10:12] The linux kernel is on 4 already [10:12] Gosh where the time goes [10:46] inetpro can you keep the 29th at 8.30 open to chair? [11:35] good afternnon [11:35] afternoon too [11:35] hi magespawn [11:47] i dont know if we have peeps here with diabetes probs but found this link [11:47] http://src.easyhealthoptions.com/ego/9b5efa29-1c54-45c9-b8d7-d6f89aff49fa/401863400/307832 [11:49] im not gonna watch the video but they say this will make lotsa companies that make diabetes meds go broke if it gets out [11:57] egh, not another of these 'diabetes can be solved by eating differently people' [11:57] * mazal returns from a lekka lunch [11:59] Grrr , I hate when I can't find my commands [12:00] What's the point of putting everything in manuals if you can't find the manual [12:01] Why can't I have item frames on my folders lol [12:01] I usually find the manual has everything except what I want to know [12:02] hehehe , that happens too [12:03] oom Kilos , make note : [12:03] Develop better storage system for Ubuntu tips and manuals [12:14] Hi all, I've got a quick question. If I wanted to rent a mid-range laptop with Ubuntu pre-installed for a week, are there any companies in Johannesburg that could help out with that? [12:17] lol [12:18] hi zeorin welcome to ubuntu-za [12:22] Hi Kilos, thanks [12:22] I'm a long-time Ubuntu user, and I have to work on-site for a client for a week [12:23] I have a beefy desktop and a small 10 inch Asus Transformer Bay Trail x86 tablet [12:23] Both are running Ubuntu [12:23] im just trying to think [12:23] But the tablet is not up to the tasks of proper work and the desktop is too much of a mission to move, so I'd rather rent an Ubuntu laptop somewhere [12:24] dont know if youll find a company that does that but many some private guy [12:24] Even a company that will allow me to install Ubuntu on the laptop is good enough (I imagine they might just re-image the machines when they get them back anyway). [12:24] Maaz google laptops for hire in johannesburg [12:25] Kilos: "Short Term Hire - Spartan" http://www.spartan.co.za/short-term-hire/ :: "Red Cherry Computer Rentals | Johannesburg Laptop Rentals ..." http://www.redcherryrentals.co.za/ :: "South Africa's leading technology rental company | Daily Hire ..." http://www.gorentals.co.za/ :: "Cape Town laptop and computer rentals delivered to your door" [12:25] http://www.rentware.co.za/ :: "Laptop Rental Specialists - Laptop and Computer Rental - 021 880 ..." http://www.… [12:25] zeorin you must visit here more often, or even all the time like most of us [12:26] Perhaps I should. I've been running Ubuntu pretty much since it started [12:26] I remember having the disks sent to me [12:26] cool, why you take so long to find us? [12:26] yeah [12:27] do you see any in the links the bot gave zeorin ? [12:31] hi andrewlsd [12:31] Hi all [12:31] Hi Kilos [12:32] am playing with ubuntu openstack: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/cloud/install-ubuntu-openstack [12:34] Hi Kilos, just got a call from Gorentals [12:34] They supply linux laptops, too [12:35] And they format their machines on receipt anyway, so I could even just install Ubuntu on one of their Windoze laptops if necessary [12:36] bye for now everyone [12:36] cool zeorin thats good news [12:36] can i ask what they charge per week? [12:39] They're just checking stock before sending me a quote... But there's a Windows Core i5 HP / Dell 4GB RAM 640GB HD for R 800/week: http://www.gorentals.co.za/store/products/professional-core-i5-notebook-rental/ [12:39] That's with Win 7 and without insurance [12:39] eish [12:39] Monthly is R 1099 though [12:40] who want to hire a windows lappy anyway [12:40] you will get corrupted [12:43] zeorin: why you renting a laptop? [12:44] Oh, I'm a freelance web dev, usually work from home, but need to be on site at a client for a week [12:46] I've got a small Bay Trail 10" tablet/netbook thing with Ubuntu but I can't stand the thought of using that 8hrs/day for a whole week--it's fine for popping in to an Internet café, but not for that [12:47] true. [12:47] Idea is good if you only need the device for a month or two. [12:47] insurance probably adds R500/month. [12:50] ai! [12:50] I need to hire one so that I can swap the battery pack for my dead one :p [12:51] lol [12:51] you lucky mazhas gone [12:52] he would tell you you stealing [12:52] MaNI what do batteries cost [12:52] probably about ~R700 from what I can tell as its an import [12:53] sjoe [12:53] its in that akward region where you almost feel like you should just upgrade your laptop [12:54] theoretically a repack should be better value for money though it doesn't seem like lots of places do it [12:54] whats a repack? [12:54] open the plastic up and put generic batteries in, instead of buying a whole new sealed pack [12:54] oh [12:55] wb zeorin [12:55] thanks, dunno what happened [12:56] the wonderful internet [12:56] Lol actually I killed my terminal window [12:56] But I can't recall why [12:57] lol [12:59] when you not busy zeorin look at our 2 sites [12:59] https://ubuntu-za.org and http://ubuntu-africa.info [13:03] Sites are working fine. They feel a little out of touch with the current Ubuntu web site designs but no train smash [13:03] Are they not attracting the attention you'd like? [13:04] the second one is new so still growing [13:04] haha you tweet as well [13:05] thats one of mine is never used and @sharpeys only when i wanna moan to isps [13:07] It's amazing how service improves once the complaint's on social media [13:09] yeah [13:09] lol [13:09] oh you can follow @ubuntuza [13:09] we announce monthly meetings and za related stuff there [13:10] Just did [13:10] cool [13:10] Are any of you involved in the JLUG? [13:10] some of the guys are but they arent here atm [13:10] jozilug? [13:11] we have odd guys from all the lugs in and out [13:11] OK. I'm not very involved with any LUGS, but I do attend the odd event here and there [13:11] ah [13:12] I really should hang out more with Linux people. I'm always the odd one out when it comes to OS's [13:12] oh when you looked at our second site you didnt try refreshing a few times [13:12] the background changes [13:12] changing hero image [13:12] cool [13:13] our sites are both static and built with bzr and nikola [13:13] I saw that [13:13] hi and welcome zeorin [13:14] Hi Pieter, thanks [13:14] out of curiosity, which web dev do you do? [13:15] I'm primarily a front-end developer [13:15] Been doing it for 16 years (first as a hobby) [13:16] Currently moving towards more JavaScript SPA web apps than actual web sites, though I still do those, too [13:16] SPA? [13:16] Single Page Application [13:17] Sorry, I'll try to avoid industry-specific jargon and acronyms [13:17] np no rules here except be nice [13:18] np, those that care usually know them anyway [13:18] * pieter2627 just did not know that one [13:18] And what do you do for a living? [13:21] * pieter2627 now wonders who was asked - should maybe not have hijacked Kilos' conversation [13:21] nono pieter2627 he meant you [13:22] Both actually. [13:22] rofl [13:22] julle praat bo oor my kop [13:22] I'm always interested what other Linux/Ubuntu people actually do for a living [13:22] im a greeter bot for ubuntu-za and ubuntu-africa [13:23] I think you might pass a Turing test, in that case [13:23] whats that? [13:23] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test [13:23] cant remember last time i had to pass any tests [13:23] * pieter2627 is a student having a year off - also does some freelance web dev in spare time and when having enough guts [13:24] i can only explain me by giving my wiki page [13:25] That WP article is huge, basically a program that can pass a Turing test is indistinguishable from a human in a text-based conversation [13:25] sjoe [13:25] no man i do as little as possible [13:25] others do my thinking for me [13:26] Kilos: he is pondering as to whether you are a real bot [13:26] haha [13:26] and you are not helping... [13:26] Nah, I know he's really just a street: https://www.google.co.za/maps?safe=off&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=993&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.96952980,d.ZGU&ion=1&q=Miles+Sharp+Street&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&ei=_DuVVez2LeTd7QanxIuoAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ [13:27] In Benoni [13:27] haha you know that [13:27] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kilos [13:28] oh zeorin we have lots of work for you to do [13:28] join our mailing list and launchpad [13:29] I signed up to the mailing list just now [13:29] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-za [13:29] I don't think I'm on launchpad myself... [13:30] oh my after all this time on ubuntu [13:30] sjoe [13:30] Yeah I know [13:30] I guess I never really got into the community side of things [13:30] My first linux was debian 3.0 [13:30] we have fun here [13:31] Only had 56k modem so I paid a company to mail me the install disks [13:31] ai! [13:31] Back then there wasn't really a community to speak of, and I guess I never reconsidered that as time went on [13:33] most of our guys are here at night because of work loads but when peeps ask for help and i give wrong info someone jumps in [13:33] hehe [13:34] hey zeorin, here's a big smile and wave [13:35] Hi andrewlsd! [13:36] Kilos: how's the mining (minetest) going? [13:36] i gave up andrewlsd uses too much data [13:37] Cryptocurrency mining? [13:37] I gave up, couldn't figure any of it out. ;-P [13:37] but ThatGraemeGuy and mazal and them live there [13:37] naah, zeorin Minetest (like minecraft) [13:37] Oh OK [13:37] aw i was gonna help you [13:38] sorry [13:39] eh [13:39] oh, minetest [13:39] I'd hardly say I live there [13:40] lol [13:41] http://mt.thatgraemeguy.co.za/cryterion.png [13:41] that's our modest little world [13:45] Squirm: no need to be giving me work this late on a Thursday :-p [13:45] or as I call it, my own personal Friday [13:45] nice to be off tomorrow [13:45] :-D [13:45] haha [13:58] ThatGraemeGuy: well I'm sorry :P [13:58] give me access and I'll happily do it myself :) [14:03] lol [14:05] :P [14:05] Thanks ThatGraemeGuy [14:05] Though I'd check ^^ [14:05] :) [14:12] You know... Just incase I broke something :P [14:13] Seeing as the boss is away [14:13] I wish I had tomorrow off [14:13] haha [14:19] home time chat later all [14:22] b.... [14:22] oh [14:25] uh oh [14:29] eh? [14:30] pros quassel crashed and flys is also broken [14:31] i think pro is scared he gets some more work [14:42] Everything is working. Home time :) [14:57] wb inetpro [15:01] pfft. Some people, those Capetonians go home soo early. No wonder they call it slaapstad [15:02] lol [15:11] I'd comment but I don't even leave home to begin with [15:21] haha [15:21] me too [15:23] Well that was fun [15:28] did you reinstall? [15:28] properly? [15:30] hmm... [17:17] lol nuvolari [17:17] If those Capetonians go home so early, where are you right now? [17:18] :P [17:18] and if you're not a Capetonian, then neither am I [17:18] * Squirm sips his Jonkers Weiss [17:19] and nuvolari, look at the moon [17:19] Actually, all of you [17:20] Look up [17:24] lol [17:34] whats with that ctcp request Squirm [17:35] [02/07/2015 19:20] [CTCP] Received unknown CTCP-NOTICE Look up! request from Squirm to Channel #ubuntu-za. [17:35] 3 times nogal [17:35] Hmm [17:35] Tried to NOTICE everyone :D [17:35] lol [17:35]