[04:48] <hyper_ch> hi there, where would I report wily bugs?
[05:50] <Logan> hyper_ch: on Launchpad, just like you would for any supported release :)
[05:52] <Logan> I'd recommend using the ubuntu-bug command-line tool
[05:58] <hyper_ch> Logan: wasn't even sure if bug reporting from users was welcomed on wily... e.g. for Cyanogenmod nightly releases, user feedback is not welcomed. Catchline "Expect bugs"
[05:59] <Logan> hyper_ch: nah we, always welcome reports
[05:59] <Logan> just make sure your system is up to date before reporting, as things change quickly when a release is in development
[05:59] <hyper_ch> I have two installer issues to report and wine is uninstallable
[06:02] <Logan> hyper_ch: please make sure the installer issues are in the latest daily image before reporting
[06:05] <hyper_ch> well, it was a week ago and yesterdays daily also
[06:05] <hyper_ch> und what package would I report installer issues?
[06:40] <hyper_ch> Logan: for what package would I report installer issues?
[06:41] <Logan> hyper_ch: run ubuntu-bug ubiquity
[06:41] <hyper_ch> Logan: thx
[06:42] <hyper_ch> there's two issue:  (1) my ethernet card is detected but can't establish a connection, regardless whether I try dhcp or set static in installer and (2) the partition manager doesn't see my samsung 840pro ssd.... I had niether issue in 15.04
[09:20] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:58] <hyper_ch> hi BluesKaj
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ho hyper_ch
[12:59] <hyper_ch> didn't konw you're already on 15.10 :)
[13:01] <BluesKaj> yup,have been for a while, but I'm checking out Debian 8.10 Jessie atm
[13:01] <BluesKaj> with KDE 4.14
[13:03] <BluesKaj> just running 15.10 to test, but I'm not liking the plasma5/kf5 much, ... my favourite features have been dropped
[13:04] <hyper_ch> my servers run all jessie
[13:04] <hyper_ch> there's a lot of bugs in kf5... but I got used to it meanwhile
[13:04] <hyper_ch> now I'm doing some testing on btrfs and NixOS
[13:06] <hyper_ch> btrfs would be nice on proxmox servers with snapshot backups
[13:06] <BluesKaj> Debian's a bit more work to setup for permissions, mounting drives etc, but I'm liking the stabilty so far
[13:07] <hyper_ch> more work?
[13:07] <hyper_ch> btw, ever had a look at NixOS?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> there seems to be a problem with system settings not keeping one's settings
[13:08] <hyper_ch> well, I have that in Kf5 ;)
[13:08] <hyper_ch> I use debian only on servers
[13:08] <BluesKaj> never heard of nixOS
[13:08] <hyper_ch> it's an interesting distro... basically you have a configurtion.nix file..... and there you say how you want your system to be setup
[13:09] <hyper_ch> and due to that, it pulls all the packages, applies according settings etc...
[13:09] <hyper_ch> also it's an atomic build... everytime you re-generate it makes also new entries.. .meaning you can go ack to previous configurations
[13:10] <hyper_ch> my small unexciting config this far:  https://github.com/sjau/nixos/blob/master/configuration.nix
[13:11] <hyper_ch> here's a slight more advanced version https://github.com/bjornfor/nixos-config/blob/master/configuration.nix
[13:12] <hyper_ch> it's very interesting approach... but I'm a noob :)
[13:16] <BluesKaj> looks interesting alright...still reading their home page
[13:17] <hyper_ch> the basic idea is, boot a live stick, make partition layout, copy your configuration.nix, let it re-setup the system
[13:18] <hyper_ch> it's very different from what I'm used by debian and ubuntu
[13:29] <BluesKaj> think i'd install it on my old desktop which can't boot from a stick, cd/dvd only, looks very interseting to me due it's KDE 4 desktop
[13:29] <BluesKaj> due to
[13:30] <hyper_ch> I also test it on my old notebook
[13:30] <hyper_ch> I managed to setup an encrypted raid1 system ;)
[13:31] <hyper_ch> I'll boot it and let you know what kde verson
[13:31] <hyper_ch> sysd is 217 IIRC
[13:34] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: 4.14.4
[13:34] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: 4.14.3
[18:11] <drhalan> hey. I was wondering if anybody got stateless systems to work with systemd on wily (like described here http://0pointer.net/blog/projects/stateless.html )
[18:21] <drhalan> there is the following note in the changelogs "Drop hwdb-update dependency from udev-trigger.service, which got       introduced in v219-stable. This causes udev and plymouth to start too       late and isn't really needed in Ubuntu yet as we don't support stateless       systems yet and handle hwdb.bin updates through dpkg triggers. This can       be dropped again with initramfs-tools 0.117."
[18:21] <drhalan> i just wondered what that means... and if stateless system support is planned for wily
[21:02] <smallfoot-> When will there be a new kernel?
[21:02] <smallfoot-> Why are there some packages that are newer in 15.04 than 15.10?
[21:10] <LocutusOfBorg1> smallfoot-, which packages?
[21:27] <smallfoot-> LocutusOfBorg1, ubuntu-docs
[21:27] <smallfoot-> usb-creator-gtk
[21:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> the first I guess because it will be updated anyway, so there is no need to fix it at this point
[21:30] <LocutusOfBorg1> the second had a security upload
[21:31] <LocutusOfBorg1> maybe they plan to update prior to wily
[21:31] <LocutusOfBorg1> anyway, seems at least the second a question for #ubuntu-hardened