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gonzalo__HOLAS00:10
mosesso 5000:15
moses15 with /00:15
moses35 with home?00:15
moseswill that be good for ubuntu OS on my laptop for coding purposes00:16
rypervenchemoses: Unless you have a specific reason for it, I usually keep my / and /home on the same partition.00:16
rypervencheAt times you can run out of space in / and it causes issues. Or vice versa.00:16
mosesok so all in one00:16
mosesbut00:16
mosesis 50 good enough00:16
mosesor more?00:17
rypervenchemoses: Are you allocating 50?00:17
Bray90820Can someone help me I am having an issue with my samba share00:17
mosesim repartitioning a disk with windows on it to install ubuntu00:17
Bray90820http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=igVdBxrw00:17
moses\j #gnome00:17
rypervenchemoses: It really depends on what you will be putting on it.00:18
mosesjust installing compilers00:18
mosescoding things i guess00:18
rypervenchemoses: You could get away with 10, but you wouldn't be able to put much on there. 20 would be enough for a system with nothing big going on it. 50 to be safe maybe.00:18
moseshmmm00:19
mosesnow you are making me think 50 isnt enough00:19
rypervencheYou can do 10 for a system that doesn't have anything growing on it. If you are putting code on there that won't be taking up much space, you could do fine with 20. But if you have space to spare, go with 50.00:20
fullstackhow do I increase file limits in ubuntu system wide so chrom doesn't crash every 5 minutes00:22
rypervenchemoses: Again, it all depends on what you plan on putting on it.00:22
fullstackI looked in /etc/security/limits.conf but there isn't any max-file=00:22
mosesnothing but installing things like compilers00:22
mosesill keep all the data on the other part of the disk00:22
rypervenchefullstack: It's the ulimit -o bit, if that is really what the problem is.00:22
fullstackrypervenche, yeah I want to set it system wide to 99999999999999^9999999999999900:23
rypervenchefullstack: ....00:23
rypervenchefullstack: It's "nofile" in your limits.conf00:23
rypervenchefullstack: man limits.conf00:23
mosesdo you think ubuntu will use less battery than windows?00:24
rypervenchefullstack: If Chrome is causing you to hit that limit, then you're doing it wrong.00:24
fullstackOk00:24
JohnnyLi just installed ubuntu to a 4096 byte sector externel hard disk. but if i try to boot all i get i a text cursor at the upper right part of a black screen. what should I do?00:25
fullstackwell care to tell me why? Or am I suppose to just nod and somehow magic fairy fix it00:25
Bray90820So I have a samba server on ubuntu 14.04 and ubuntu 15.04 as the client and changed made on the server don't show up on the client and changes I make in the client don't show up on the server00:27
JohnnyL"The partition /dev/sdc1 assigned to / starts at an offset of 3584 bytes from the minmum alighnment for this disk. install show stopper.00:28
JohnnyLi literally cannot install to this new hard drive.00:30
JohnnyLit wants a 512 block size but my physical block size is 4096.00:35
JohnnyLnow i'm getting this error with ubuntu.00:35
torkingtrying to find 12.04 repository that works00:35
torkingthere isn't one on old-releases00:36
torkingworking with legacy application that requires 12.0400:36
JohnnyLUnits: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes00:37
JohnnyLSector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes00:37
JohnnyLI/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 33553920 bytes00:37
JohnnyLAlignment offset: 512 bytes00:37
allizomJohnnyL: do you have other OSes/data on that disk?00:39
JohnnyLallizom: it came new with ntfs. but I since removed it.00:39
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JohnnyLi'm reinstalling ubuntu again (i got past the error with mkfs.ext4 -b 4096 /dev/sdx00:40
JohnnyLbut it didn't boot last time.00:40
JohnnyLall i got was a black screen with a small cursor in the upper right of the screen.00:40
Bashing-ommoses: My example of a very very sparse "work" install : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11813191/ ; as an idea of what you might so .00:40
gingwhen a bunch of packages are all built from one main package, is there a name for that?00:40
Bashing-omging: The term I see is "meta-package" .00:42
Bashing-om!metapackage00:43
ubottuA meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.00:43
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gingBashing-om: not quite what i meant00:52
gingeg openssl you get libssl1.0.0 libssl-dev libssl-doc and openssl (plus various others) they all come out of the same source package00:55
Hobbet1i have a hp laptop with windows 7 and want to dual boot it with lubuntu but the only option its giving me is to erase the harddrive and not being able to dual boot can you help me please00:57
brmphHobbet1: You have four primary partitions most likely, you on ubuntu now?00:57
Hobbet1no but i will follow your instructions as i have a great memory00:58
Hobbet1yes it does have 4 partitions brmph00:58
brmphHobbet1: On  a single HD you can have 4 primaries or 3 primaries with and extended which can have logicals within.01:00
brmphan not and*01:00
Hobbet1ok got that01:00
brmphHobbet1: Cool, you probably have a tiny firmware partiton which can be put back in a partition in the extended along with the logicals for ubuntu, and a swap.01:01
brmphHobbet1: I'm assuming a manufacturer install.01:02
Hobbet1yes this is hp oem01:02
brmphHobbet1: So you can keep all the partitions if you want, just a little messing around.01:04
Hobbet1easy is a good thing whichever is easiest brmph lol01:04
brmphHobbet1: Some just image the windows and remove the backup partition as well, you have options.01:05
brmphor rather tha as well01:05
Hobbet1since i have the dvds as backup then probably removing the backup partition would be easy01:07
brmphHobbet1: you have a boot for windows the backup a recovery disc?01:08
Hobbet1yes i have a recovery disk to set it back to manufacture set01:09
brmphHobbet1: cool, good tool to have.01:10
Hobbet1so you recommend to delete the backup partition and then do the install01:10
brmphHobbet1: I can't say what's best, only that be sure you can fix whatever you do01:11
brmphif needed ;01:12
Hobbet1yes i can reinstall windows 7 if i need to brmph01:12
Hobbet1brmph will lubuntu try and install where the backup partition was or will it create a new partition??01:13
brmphHobbet1: Good, your welcome to ask for more info here others might have some ideas.01:13
brmphHobbet1: I'm not sure where on the HD that partition is, you need an extended in it's place and logicals inside, I would do a manual something else install personally.01:15
Hobbet1i am >< that close from just dumping windows 7 brmph lol01:16
brmphHobbet1: You might get some support here for that.01:17
Hobbet1lol01:17
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mosesBashing-om: did you allocate space for each01:22
zaragonI'm [retty much a newbie to linux.  Have a Sony Viao circa 2007.  Can I erase everything on HD and install Ubuntu?  Do I have to go back to Sony for drivers?01:27
acro_It depends on hardware but it should be fine.01:28
mosesi cant resize my partition :/01:28
somsipzaragon: try the live CD and see if the supplied drivers run everything ok. If they do, you're *probably* good to go01:28
zaragonThanks somsip...sounds like good and logical advice01:29
somsipzaragon: good to do some general searches for your vaio model to see if there are issues. Maybe do an install to USB if you want to double check01:30
zaragonNot meant in a mean way, somsip.....was a programmer long ago and far away...I can take it from here.....Live CD is sort of a foreign concept..thanks for advice01:33
acro_I am having issues syncing my iPhone music using Rhythmbox and Banshee.01:34
acro_When i sync my iphone 5s, it shows it has successfully synced in the program, but when i disconnect the device, the content does not show in my music.01:35
acro_The software appear to sync fine and finish successfully. The music appears on them. The iPhone however does not show m music after the sync. When i replug my device the software cease to show the music as well. My storage usage on my iPhone does go up, so it seems to have actually copied the files.01:36
acro_How do I get my iPhone to detect my synced music?01:36
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sudoMattIn Ubuntu 15.04, how do I open a folder as root in File Manager?01:40
SchrodingersScatgksudo nautilus ?01:40
sudoMattbah, sudo nautilus worked01:41
sudoMattthanks01:41
sudoMattnew guy01:41
SchrodingersScat!gksudo01:41
ubottuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)01:41
sudoMattThanks, reading it now01:42
D30hello, anyone heard about centminmod?.. i am actually looking for equivalent/counterpart for ubuntu/debian based01:59
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talhaSa02:09
talhaHi02:09
smoke_hello02:10
jmaderoD30: I've never heard of it but...can't you just use it in Ubuntu?02:10
D30hmmnn im not really sure, i think its for Centos..02:11
smoke_any one that migh help me02:11
jmaderoD30: ...Linux is Linux ;)02:11
D30yeah but i think its uses is primarily for centos02:11
smoke_how to install kodi for Ubuntu02:12
jmaderosmoke_: ... google that02:12
jmaderoyou'll have an answer in 10 seconds ;)02:12
mgolischubuntu should have kodi packages and the kodi team has a ppa too02:12
smoke_i see disk casper isolina pressed02:14
jmaderosmoke_: literally....10 second google check02:14
jmaderofirst hit - http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Install_Kodi_for_Linux02:15
smoke_ok02:15
jmaderowe're here to help but sometimes you need to help yourself....no offense02:15
jmaderothe google search I put in "install kodi ubuntu"02:15
smoke_ok02:15
smoke_were do i find volume  control02:16
jmaderosmoke_: top right02:16
jmaderoshould have an icon (speaker looking thing)02:17
jmaderosmoke_: you can also use the unity search thing for "volume" and you'll see "Sound"02:17
b3n_ubuntuhi ubuntu guys .. is it possible to make custom iso within Live ISO session ? I'm trying to do this using remastersys tool but it's asking for vmlinuz which is missing from /boot folder02:27
brmph!uck | b3n_ubuntu02:27
ubottub3n_ubuntu: uck is a tool that helps you customise official Ubuntu Live CDs (including Kubuntu/Xubuntu and Edubuntu) to your needs. See http://uck.sourceforge.net/02:27
b3n_ubuntubut is it possible even if I'm doing it within a Live session cd ?02:29
brmphb3n_ubuntu: Theoretically yes I believe, it may just be ubuntu live iso's is all, takes some processing energy, so live may not be best with a gui.02:30
b3n_ubuntuuck? does create iso using the current installed files or config? what i did is to remove programs i don't want to see on my custom iso, and remastersys tool does that ..02:32
brmphb3n_ubuntu: Sure, uck was just a sugestion.02:33
brmphb3n_ubuntu: I believe uck would do this with an iso, not your boot.02:34
b3n_ubuntui've tried uck but it always give me this error "File 1404.iso does not exist" when selecting iso ..02:35
matschaffercan anyone help shed any light on why apt-get would be able to see a candidate, but not install it? https://gist.github.com/matschaffer/9a87dd760eda1ce5d0d002:38
cfhowlettmatschaffer, items in git are NOT in the apt normal repos, so apt-get wouldn't be the correct install tool02:38
Bashing-ommoses: Yes, I do pre-partiton for my use case. Partitioning can be an art in it's own right . My example is very tight and requires a constant eye on things .02:39
matschaffercfhowlett: it’s not in git though02:39
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matschaffer`dpkg --compare-versions 0.29-105 gt 0.29-103` even reports that the numbers compare correctly02:46
YukkiiSo..I've set the static IP in the interfaces file, and ifconfig shows that it's correct, but I can't ping it?02:54
somsipYukkii: paste your interfaces file using pastebin02:54
YukkiiAnd how to copy a file via ssh?02:55
somsipYukkii: edit it, highlight with mouse, click into pastebin02:55
agent_whiteYukkii: scp or rsync02:55
YukkiiOh, seems we made a typo02:56
YukkiiNevermind then02:56
leoarghola03:01
leoarghello03:01
matschaffereven bumping to 0.30-106, apt-get install still refuses to install it03:02
linuxuz3rwhat is hg?03:04
matschafferlinuxuz3r: probably https://mercurial.selenic.com/03:06
Yukkiisomsip: k, still not working https://i.gyazo.com/9f3327387aa7f312e81f91732805fdba.png03:07
Yukkiier03:08
YukkiiScratch that03:08
Yukkii>_>03:08
linuxuz3rthanks matschaffer03:08
DoYouKnowguys, I found a MAJOR bug in VMware + the workspace switcher in ubuntu 14.04.203:09
DoYouKnowbasically, you can end up in a state where the vm's input is captured and the workspace captures the input simultaneously03:10
DoYouKnowand it's impossible to escape03:10
cfhowlett!but | DoYouKnow submit the bug report?03:13
cfhowlett!bug03:13
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.03:13
OerHeksbug in vmware, likely03:15
mosesok so logical partition? ext4 journaling file system? mount point: /?03:21
brmphmoses: You have an extended to contain?03:23
brmphor this efi03:23
mosesi have allowed disk space from a prior windows installation03:23
mosesshould i make a swap partition?03:23
brmphmoses: I have not followed your quest, so can't confirm what you need.03:24
mosesI have 100 gigs of free space03:24
mosesi want to dual boot ubuntu with winsows03:24
mosesthe install cd is in and its asking me how to partition this 100 gigs03:25
brmphmoses: This a dualboot, any partitions there now?03:25
mosesjust the windows and the factory restore03:25
mosesfor that windows03:25
mosesso yes 203:26
brmphmoses: So 3 ntfs and 100gig unallocated?03:26
moses203:26
brmphmoses: No boot partition for widows?03:26
brmphwindows*03:26
mosesidk03:27
mosesonly 203:27
mosesi deleted one because it was blank and said it wasnt involved with windows03:27
brmphmoses: open a terminal and run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the info03:27
zergacc03:27
mosesi dont have ubuntu installed yet03:27
mosesjust windows03:27
mosescan i run a terminal off of the installation disk?03:28
brmphmoses: this is from the live to see the partitions03:28
mosesrgr03:28
brmph;)03:28
moseswait03:31
brmph!pastebinit | moses No prob, you can send it to the net with this03:31
ubottumoses No prob, you can send it to the net with this: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com03:31
mosesi have a terminal open with this irssi in an ssh and i also ssh from the laptop with the life disk but its not letting me open the screen session03:31
moseshttp://pastebin.com/Nn1xTcBJ03:32
moseswell there it is03:32
brmphmoses: Cool 2 partitions, both primaries, if you want logical to have multi partitions you just need an extended, I would make a swap.03:34
mosesi ran free -m03:35
mosesit says ~6 gigs03:35
mosesshould i make the swap 12 gigs?03:35
brmphmoses: NO mre that slightly more than 6, probably less, depends on if you hibernate and use alot of ram.03:36
mosesthis will just be for coding03:36
brmphmoses: Never coded here so have no idea.03:36
brmphsimple stuff is all anyway03:36
moses8 gigs as a swap03:37
brmphsure, you can always adjust if needed.03:37
donofrioanyone know how I would join the Xorg/gdm's of these sticks to act as one desktop https://insights.ubuntu.com/?p=14712 at that price I'd like to get six and hook one up to each monitor like I do right now ( http://tinyurl.com/standingeatingsalidatwork2015 ) but instead of three dual head workstation I'd have six cpu's...03:37
zergacc03:40
JohnnyLWhy does my new externel drive block all other processes. I am getting a nice 41Mps, but all else is blocked while xfers are taking place. http://pastebin.com/MwjSxZ7U03:51
JohnnyL?03:51
JohnnyLls /sys/block/sdb/queue/physical_block_size03:52
JohnnyLreads 4096.03:52
donofrioanyone use more than one workstation at a time?03:53
agent_whitedonofrio: I use synergy.03:57
agent_whitedonofrio: It lets me use mouse/keyboard across desktops.03:57
matschafferomg, found it. Thank got for apt-get download; dpkg -i03:57
matschaffernow to figure out why this new pkg depends on a different libstdc++603:57
donofrioI use synergy too hence my one keyboard and mouse paper stacks03:58
donofriobut I am looking for how to join the xorgs together......03:59
agent_whitedonofrio: Ohhh. Hm. So something like... RandR? or Xinerama?04:00
* agent_white shrugs04:00
donofrioagent_white: right but how and does anyone else run like this (I like to distribute processes between workstations)04:01
agent_whitedonofrio: So you're looking to do build a cluster for distributed computing? Or?04:03
agent_whiteAs in, you want to start a program on any workstation, and have it jump to any workstation with lower load or something?04:04
donofriosorta it's a distributed work environment - I manually distrubute the load but I have six displays driven by three workstations currently, with these "sticks" I'd like to finnly have one desktop that is six wide....04:04
agent_whiteReally, you need programs specifically tuned to do so.04:04
donofrioagent_white: not looking for load balenceing I do that myself....just want one screen using sticks to keep cost down....and they don't take up any space///04:05
donofrio100$*6 = awesome daily driver setup...04:05
dom_I installed Ubuntu with XFCE on a Toshiba Chromebook 2 and have no sound. Any ideas how I can fix this?04:07
cfhowlett!sound | dom_04:07
ubottudom_: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.04:07
dom_thanks cfhowlett!04:08
agent_whitedonofrio: Hm. Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the sticks at all so I can't really help :/ Goodluck though!04:09
donofrioagent_white: this is the right side profile view of me using my "daily driver" http://picpaste.com/pics/ITZsodqT.1435896523.jpg perhaps gives you the ablity to see how would be nice to move from three workstations to six sticks with bridged xorg04:10
donofriosticks aside to you ever 'bridge' your desktop displays?04:10
grahamsavage_hey i've got a very big usability issue day to day when dealing with terminal04:13
grahamsavage_i often have about 8 - 12 terminal windows open at the same time. when i switch away from them they disappear.... but to get them back i have to manually select each one, one by one to bring them to the foreground04:14
grahamsavage_is there anyway of forcing all terminal windows to come to the foreground04:14
grahamsavage_alt-~ doesn't really work04:14
vfwgrahamsavage_: What DE do you use?04:15
agent_whitedonofrio: Ah!  And nope, I just use synergy and run applications tied to each machine.04:15
agent_whitedonofrio: but... maybe this could help? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extreme_Multihead -- don't mind it being the archlinux wiki, as it applies to linux as a whole.04:16
vfwgrahamsavage_: Unity?04:16
agent_whitedonofrio: Checkout the bottom with "xdmx"04:16
grahamsavage_vfw: yeah unity04:16
vfwgrahamsavage_: Try xfce04:16
FatBastardWhats up people how you chillen?04:17
vfwgrahamsavage_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:17
FatBastard!rm04:17
grahamsavage_vfw: is it nicer than unity?04:18
vfwgrahamsavage_: It's different04:18
ileonichello04:18
vfwgrahamsavage_: (it's what I use)04:18
cassio3hey, I know this is slightly OT04:19
ileonici thik i tis nicer than unity but how much does it wehitg04:19
cassio3but are there any copiers that support smb 2?04:19
syntroPiwhat would be the equivalent option in ~/ssh/config to ssh -t <hostname> "screen -S foo -rd || screen -S foo"? E.g. whats the name for "-t" in .ssh/config?04:20
FatBastardWhats up people how you chillen?04:20
donofrioyah reading tnx hope they have .deb files somewhere, cause I do not want to go back to manually editing the xorg config....nope not again I've spent weeks tweaking in the past no more04:20
vfwFat and happy04:21
ileonichey how do i activate the xubuntu desktop04:25
ileonicso i have to reboot04:25
agent_whitedonofrio: Just... be sure to make backups :D04:25
vfwileonic: Yea.  Or just log out and back in again, and choose xfce as your DE.04:26
ileonictrying04:26
ileonicthanks04:26
vfwileonic: (The login manager is where you choose your DE.04:26
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donofrioagent_white: not doing that again....I mean I spent a month one time trying to get my matrox parhella working on a linux build it needed too much work to get them all working right....felt like getting cups working years ago...90 min later "I got it" and the windows users are like "so.." facepalm....04:28
agent_whiteHahah04:30
leonici just dowloaded nero linux if i make a bootable dvd whit linux mate and other distros  wiill i have a problem _04:32
HadishPRIVMSG Hamide salam04:38
HamidePRIVMSG Hadish Hello04:38
Bray90820_can someone explain these weird file names04:43
Bray90820_https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Name.png04:43
nextech?05:22
shajiinstalling odoo and further customization howto05:27
shajiHello michal_ installing odoo and further customization howto05:32
genewitchso find has a -exec {command} but i am trying find / -name '*.txt' -exec {cat} and it's saying exec is missing an argument05:34
genewitchwhat am i doin wrong ?05:34
jmaderogenewitch: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12902/how-to-run-find-exec05:40
Bray90820_Does ubuntu accept colons  in file names05:51
agent_white!tias05:51
agent_white:(05:52
agent_whiteBray90820_: Try it and see!05:52
crocis there a non-buggy replacement for setfacl / getfacl i can use?05:52
TJ-croc: What bugs are you trying to avoid?05:54
crocoh god, where do i start...05:54
crocketHow do I remove gnome in ubuntu gnome 15.04 and install mate instead?05:54
crocketI want to rid my system of gnome.05:55
Bray90820_agent_white: I am gonna assume it does and I am having another error05:55
agent_whiteBray90820_: `touch "test:123"`05:55
agent_whiteDon't assume.05:55
Bray90820_Every time I add a colon in the file name the file becomes unreadable05:55
crocTJ-, if you have more than a specific number of ACLs on a file it silently fails, it doesn't have any error messages (i.e. anything doesn't work it will just through an error)    if a user doesn't exist it doesn't tell you, if a group doesn't exist it doesn't tell you05:55
agent_whiteBray90820_: What do you mean by unreadable?05:56
crocbasically if you run into any problem it turns into a "guess what the problem is"05:56
crocIf there's not a replacement i think i'll have to write a wrapper which manually checks for all these things05:56
mosesdoes anyone use screen?05:58
mosescan I attach to the same session from multiple sockets?05:59
Bray90820_agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=y0WHB3p005:59
agent_whiteBray90820_: Change the single quotes to double quotes06:00
TJ-croc: I'm not aware of replacements. Does the command not return non-zero if those issues occur?06:00
TJ-croc: If those are bugs best to report them to https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?group=acl06:01
Bray90820_Same issue06:01
Bray90820_http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=SE2PA1Td06:01
Bray90820_And when I try to copy the file in the gui it says no such file or directory06:01
Bray90820_This is on a samba share if it matters06:01
Bray90820_agent_white:06:03
agent_whiteBray90820_: What about doing the same on those other files?06:04
agent_white"title{01,02,03}.mkv" ?06:04
Bray90820_ls the other two fikes?06:04
Bray90820_files06:04
Bray90820_?06:04
agent_whiteYes06:04
agent_white3 files06:04
moseswell that didnt work out quite how I wanted it to06:05
crocTJ-: yeah it returns non 0, but it doesn't tell you what the error is06:05
Bray90820_agent_white: so I should ls all 3 of those files?06:05
TJ-croc: That does sound rather the GNU way :)06:06
agent_whiteBray90820_: Each one. Just as you tried to the first.06:06
Bray90820_ok06:06
crocTJ_: it took me 8 hours to work out the it doesn't like more than x number of settings in the config file06:06
crocTJ-, it was something very small like 2006:06
crocTJ-, lol.. i'm the opposite .. every error that pops up is like "User "bla" is not found in the user list"   "missing configuration x in config file" etc06:07
Bray90820_agent_white: It worked06:07
Bray90820_http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vz8cK9v206:07
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Bray90820_agent_white: It seems like once I add the colon everything goes bad06:08
TJ-croc: have you checked the source-code for clues as to a workaround, or explanation?06:09
crocTJ-: nah i don't code C06:09
TJ-croc: what's the error-code you get back from setfacl when it fails; lets see if I can find it in the source06:11
Bray90820_agent_white: Any idea?06:13
crocTJ-:   ok i got one   WORKING:   setfacl --modify user:$USER:rwx .06:14
agent_whiteBray90820_: Just... rename the file?06:14
agent_whiteThen try again.06:14
crocTJ-:   setfacl --modify user:doesntwork:rwx .06:14
crocTJ-:   it gives:   setfacl: Option -m: Invalid argument near character 14 << genius :)06:14
agent_whiteBray90820_: Is the file on an NTFS partition?06:14
Bray90820_The file is on an ext4 logicial volume on ubuntu 14.0406:18
Bray90820_ I can't rename the file06:18
Bray90820_agent_white:06:18
Bray90820_I can recreate the files but I am wondering why the colons are acting like this06:18
agent_whiteBray90820_: Since you're in the directory... `mv "01 - 12:00 AM.mkv" ./000.mkv`06:19
crocTJ-, wow they seem to have fixed the invisible limit in 14:04  i just added 20 users and 10 groups and it's still working06:20
Bray90820_agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ywrHeu9A06:20
shajiinstalling odoo and further customization howto06:20
agent_whiteBray90820_: Pastebin the output of `ll`06:21
crocTJ-, yeah just added 80 to one.. works fine06:22
Bray90820_http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L7r8C3CV06:22
Bray90820_agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L7r8C3CV06:22
TJ-croc: Yay :)06:23
bazhangwhat is odoo shaji06:23
agent_whiteBray90820_: `ls -li`06:24
bazhang!info odoo06:24
ubottuPackage odoo does not exist in vivid06:24
bazhangno such item shaji06:24
Bray90820_agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6JbxwpBg06:25
agent_whiteBray90820_: `find . -inum 134086665 -exec mv {} 000.mkv \;`06:26
Bray90820_agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZCUxP8Nh06:27
agent_whiteBray90820_: `find . -inum 134086665 -exec mv {} newFile.mkv \;`06:28
agent_whiteBray90820_: What we're doing, is instead of moving the file to a new name in the same location VIA its current name, is targeting the file via its "inode number" instead.06:29
agent_whiteSo basically, targeting it by it's location in the file system rather than its name.06:30
agent_whiteNow see if "newFIle.mkv" is in the directory.06:30
agent_white"newFile.mkv" rather06:30
agent_whiteBray90820_: Any luck?06:32
Bray90820_agent_white: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xAjCLC4A06:32
agent_whiteBray90820_: Success!06:33
agent_whiteNow `ls`06:33
Bray90820_agent_white: it worked06:33
Bray90820_http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=v0vCzL8Z06:33
agent_whiteBray90820_: Cheers :)06:34
Bray90820_agent_white: Why were the colons failing tho?06:34
agent_whiteBray90820_: Again, look what I said above:  We did `ll -li` to see the inode numbers of the files/dirs in the directory, then used that inode number to manipulate the file rather than the filename.06:34
jarray52Is there a list of phones that support Ubuntu phone?06:35
agent_whiteBray90820_: I have no idea.  Though I feel the colon wasn't the issue. Ccould be some oddball characters mixed in there06:35
agent_whiteBray90820_: However, if you're on NTFS, the colon does make a big difference and is a "no-no".06:35
Bray90820_I am on a ext4 samba share06:36
Bray90820_Every time I add a colon no matter what file it seems to fail06:36
agent_whiteAye... and Samba generally means you're interfacing with linux<->windows.  Even though this apparently wasn't the case, it's good to know.06:37
agent_whiteBut also, in the future... NEVER use spaces in filenames. It's just asking for headache.06:37
agent_whiteAnd remember, a filename is just an alias to an inode (which is concrete and specific to that individual file).06:37
* agent_white mumbles about soft/hardlinks and inodes and to look into those06:38
agent_whiteBray90820_: Glad your problem is solved though :)06:38
Bray90820_agent_white: it's not really solved06:39
agent_whiteHow so?06:39
Bray90820_I still can't add colons to file names06:39
agent_whiteYou still _shouldn't_ add colons to file names.06:39
agent_whiteIf you need to, then you need to rethink how you're naming.06:39
agent_whiteOtherwise you're asking for trouble.06:39
Bray90820_I am using the name that was on the DVD06:40
Bray90820_this is what i found when I looked at the server06:40
agent_whiteWell... don't! Haha.06:40
Bray90820_https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/33402675/Name.png06:40
agent_whiteBray90820_: ...06:40
agent_whiteBray90820_: Do you see the glaring issue now?06:40
genewitchis there really no way to send a direct message on github?06:42
Bray90820agent_white: yea i see that but why would It work on my desktop and not on the samba share06:42
genewitchBray90820: ask cifs06:43
agent_whiteBray90820: See that character? The one that looks like... a jellyfish?06:43
genewitch#cifs06:43
Bray90820Thanks06:43
genewitchagent_white: cthulu06:43
Bray90820agent_white: I see that06:43
agent_whiteBray90820: That character is probably not supported by your terminal.06:43
Bray90820there both ubuntu so idk06:43
agent_whiteAnd nor should it EVER be allowed into a file name.06:43
Bray90820The client and server06:43
agent_whiteI do know. And I'm telling you. :P06:43
Bray90820Alright06:44
Bray90820I think I got it now06:44
Bray90820Thanks06:44
agent_whiteBray90820: tl;dr that symbol shouldn't be in a file name. Don't let it name the files for you.06:44
genewitchagent_white: AFL names files in such a fashion that cifs breaks on certain clients06:44
Bray90820agent_white: I name it that it wasn't automatic :P06:44
agent_whitegenewitch: AFL, cifs? Not familiar with either. :P06:44
genewitchagent_white: "id:004843,src:004839+003299,op:splice,rep:64"06:45
agent_whiteBray90820: Ah. Well... don't put that damned symbol, or any other crazy symbols in there... ever.06:45
genewitchamerican fuzzy lop, it's a fuzzing debugger06:45
Bray90820Alright06:45
agent_whitegenewitch: Ahhh.06:45
genewitchit's probably the coolest use of a computer i've seen recently06:45
genewitchcifs is samba06:45
genewitchmount -t cifs06:45
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agent_whiteAhhh. Huh.06:46
Bray90820agent_white: Thanks for your help06:46
agent_whiteAllowing those symbols though... is almost as terrible as non-breaking spaces. :P06:47
agent_whiteBray90820: Cheers :)06:47
Bray90820Goodnight06:47
agent_whiteNight!06:48
genewitchhehe, i agree. Oddly enough, my CIFS server is linux, and so long as i used cifs mounts it worked fine. GVFS and windows couldn't read those file names like the example i gave. it would just be like id0023~406:48
genewitchon windows, obviously ID0023~406:48
genewitchso i had to shell script renaming everything to ascendingNumber.filetype and move that to cifs, then it worked fine06:49
agent_whiteChrist...06:50
agent_whiteWhat a pain in the ass! :P06:50
agent_whiteSorry for language!06:51
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knightyyyHi.How can I remove gnome shell from my ubuntu 15.04 safely?(I installed ubuntu 15.04 and then Plasma and then Gnome-shell.but it seems like gnome-shell is causing a bit of conflict.)07:25
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KartagisI have a small issue. on both my laptop and my desktop, I have this 40gb of mp3 files, and I use clementine on both. while it always takes about 20 secs on desktop to find and play the song, it doesn't take this long on my laptop. why is that? speed of harddrives maybe?07:36
KartagisI'm on 14.04 on both07:37
somsipKartagis: use hdparm to compare speed if you want to investigate that07:37
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Kartagissomsip: oh, I must add that the archive is in ~/Music on laptop, and in another partition on desktop. but that doesn't matter because it is the same even if I move it to ~/Music07:39
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knightyyyjust ordered apt to remove gnome-shell and then did an autoremove,lets hope I didn't ruin stuff.07:42
nabdevhey, any one here use ubuntu version >= 14.04 with Lenovo Z580 ? there is no propblem of compatibility ?07:44
DJones_nabdev: I've not got a z580, but this page may be helpful http://www.linlap.com/lenovo_ideapad_z58007:45
Vido_Is there Desktop enviroment for atom 1.7 which is dont use right-click everything07:49
nikola_ihow do i debug my ubuntu 15.04. It doesn't wakeup from sleep07:51
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nabdevnikola_i> i have the same with 14.04 may be it is graphic driver issue07:52
Vido_@nikola_i you need to monitor ttl dmesg07:53
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syntroPi is there any way to get both xterm scrollback and nano scrolling (mousewheel) inside a remote ssh screen session connected to gnome-terminal?  adding "termcapinfo xterm ti@:te@" to ~/.screenrc works for the scrollback buffer but breaks nano mousewheel scrolling...08:08
fullstackIf my /etc/apt/sources.list gets corrupted how do I get a new one? 14.10 thanks08:17
hackerboyhi08:17
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leeyaahello08:28
leeyaai am preparing a process list to regularly update a few production servers. i have staging environment with sort of a clone setup of production environment. is it possible to get list of updated packages on staging that are updated after security update and install the same packages on production ?08:29
leeyaastaging and production will have one week difference08:29
Ben64leeyaa: is there something wrong with 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' ?08:30
leeyaaBen64: yes. i want to run the updates on staging for a week before applying on production08:31
leeyaaand i need only security updates08:31
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leeyaabasically i am asking how to apply packages versions and list of packages from one server to another08:36
somsipleeyaa: just run unattended updates on security packages. I've been doing that on 12.04 and 14.04 for a few years with no problems08:37
leeyaasomsip: i was doing that for a while and it was breaking some services. not suitable for production08:37
somsipleeyaa: ...for security updates only...08:37
leeyaasometimes it breaks stuff08:37
somsipleeyaa: hmmm. never had a problem doing this on production myself, but if that's your experience you may need to run some sort of CI tests daily on a staging server with alerts if they fail. If they dont fail, update the prod servers using scripts (ansible, chef, puppet, etc)08:39
somsipleeyaa: but that's not what you're asking directly...sorry - going off the point.08:39
leeyaasomsip: well i had problems mainly on xen servers (after update without restarting xen related services hsot becomes unstable)08:39
leeyaahost*08:39
leeyaaso if you have problems with one host or server type, for sure there will be more08:40
somsipleeyaa: fair enough - not something I've used so I can't speak from experience. I supposed you would --dry-run and get the list from there08:40
fotografistoI am unable to automatically mount a drive in ubunntu 15.0508:43
EriC^^fotografisto: how are you trying to automount it?08:43
fotografistowhen I plug it in it doesn't automount08:43
fotografistoI get an error08:43
Ben64what error08:44
fotografistoman WTF now since I go and ask now it works08:44
fotografistolol...08:44
fotografistoit is mounted08:44
* hateball bets dmesg will tell a tale about unclean unmount of NTFS partition08:44
fotografisto:)08:44
fotografistookay how do I keep this from happening again?08:44
Ben64without the error theres no way to tell08:45
leeyaasomsip: not sure how to apply the list ? https://bpaste.net/show/c7f182376039 just apt-get install listed packages ?08:45
TJ-leeyaa: I'd suggest having the staging server use unattended-upgrades for "${distro_id}-security" only and then set "Unattended-Upgrade::Mail ..." to send the list of upgraded packages a to dedicated mailbox, then simply collect/parse that mailbox each time you want to upgrade 'production' and then wipe the mailbix08:46
leeyaaTJ-: what about a local mirror ?08:46
TJ-leeyaa: what about it?08:47
leeyaathis way i can update mirror once a week, update stating then push to the rest08:47
leeyaastaging*08:47
leeyaai used to do that for centos08:48
nicechapwhat is the keyboard shortcut showing the workspaces (i.e. like when one clicks on 'workspace switcher') ?08:48
TJ-leeyaa: you can always parse the list of updated packages from "/var/log/apt/history.log" if you're upgrading 'staging' manually, rather than using unattended08:49
nicechapShift+Super+W does not do the same as it only shows the windows in all workspaces, instead of mapping them onto their workspaces08:49
leeyaaTJ-: yeah i forgot about that08:49
leeyaai guess ill try both ways - mirror and parsing output08:49
adimitrovhi08:50
leeyaai need to keep up to date ~200 vms so probably mirror is best option plus parsing logs to verify08:50
adimitrovis there some software for wifi access point web ui, that could be installed on ubuntu and provide UI similar to ddwrt/openwrt08:50
adimitrovi know about ebox, but it seems to doesn't work08:51
leeyaaadimitrov: why need a special os for router ?08:51
adimitrovleeyaa: because want to turn a x86 box into router with more options08:52
leeyaaadimitrov: you dont need gui for options. quiet the opposite, guis usually limit you08:53
TJ-adimitrov: Have you considered http://www.chillispot.org/08:53
TJ-adimitrov: or, are you on about router management, not hotspot provision?08:54
leeyaapfsense has wifi stuff too i think08:54
adimitrovi try it but it doesn't support my wifi card with broadcom4360 chipset08:54
TJ-adimitrov: chipset support is down to the kernel modules,08:55
adimitrovopenwrt is nice but is hard to install on x86 because lack of builtin usb drivers in the image08:55
adimitrovso i decide using ubuntu, but can't find nice webUI for management, i don't want to write all the stuff from console08:55
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TJ-adimitrov: how often are you expecting to change the configuration? Usually it's fire and forget!08:57
adimitrovyes, but with single webui u have overview of all of them08:58
TJ-adimitrov: Last time I set something a gateway/router + AP up I used hostapd for the Wifi AP side, and shorewall for the networking side08:59
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backbox_hello users09:00
backbox_anyone there ??09:01
backbox_init o09:01
backbox_lol09:01
jub36can someone help me with gpt and raid in server install09:02
bekksjub36: What do you need help with?09:04
sediPRIVMSG sedi hello09:06
fotografistoI get this error when I plug my harddrive in. http://i.imgur.com/sxdw0Xf.png09:06
x__how are you09:07
hateballfotografisto: if you run "dmesg" in a terminal after you plug in the drive, can you see any errors?09:08
hateballfotografisto: usually it is due to not unmounting properly before unplugging the drive so the FS gets tainted09:08
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sedihi09:09
jub36do i need to set the bios boot partition for gpt as raid 1 and leave it unused09:09
fotografistohateball how should I fix it?09:09
Guest18271hi09:10
hateballfotografisto: make sure you unmount the device and not just pull the plug09:10
bekksjub36: you are using a softraid?09:10
jub36yeah09:10
hateballfotografisto: anyhow, that might not be the problem. which is why I asked you to run "dmesg" to see what actually is09:10
sedihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiii09:12
jub36i want a fresh server install on 2 disks, i create a bios boot partition 1mb, root and swap, then I create a mda for the boot and root and swap09:12
bekksjub36: Mirroring the bios boot partition will enable you to boot with one drive missing.09:12
Guest18271kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk09:12
jub36Right so when i create an mda for the bios boot partition i leave it unused and install grub there later on in the installation?09:13
fotografistohateball http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vLNPbZ2g09:13
bekksjub36: Whats an "mda"?09:13
jub36i mean a raid device09:14
bekksjub36: And the bios boot partition is used for booting, it has to be used.09:14
sedihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiii09:15
hateballfotografisto: Strange, no obvious errors there. I am not sure if you can get any more verbose info from "journalctl"09:15
x__bbbbbbbbbbbbbbyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeee09:15
x__PRIVMSG sedi vrshrd09:16
x__PRIVMSG x__ hdthtj09:17
fotografistoyou have to move the plug a bit to get it to connect to the hard drive hateball09:17
fotografistosometimes it just disconnects09:17
jub36So basicly I dont create a raid device from 2 boot partitions but instead i just have 2 bios boot partitions and everything else goes into raid?09:17
antonioHey folks...09:18
hateballfotografisto: yes, I saw the high number of disconnects. Perhaps the cable is bad?09:18
antonioTrying to get mp3s to play on my newly installed 14.04  Here are the errors I'm getting http://pastebin.com/QRXU25ea09:18
Ben64antonio: you cut off the top09:18
antoniowhat do you mean?09:19
antonioben64: what do you mean?09:19
Ben64the error appeared from nowhere? you typed something above that09:19
antonioben64: I'm trying to play some mp3s in amarok..got a message about installing some codecs...can I send you a screenshot of what it wants me to download?09:21
antonioToo much to type09:21
Ben64use a pastebin09:21
ObrienDavepastebin it09:21
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ObrienDaveALL of it, not just the result09:22
sedi_PRIVMSG x gregerehrwe09:22
antonioben64: I can't use a pastebin.  Its an image.09:22
ObrienDaveimgur. seriously?09:23
sedi_ejbnjb09:23
Ben64sedi_: stop that09:23
ObrienDave!pastebin  antonio09:23
ObrienDave!pastebin | antonio09:23
ubottuantonio: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:23
kokutHello, anyone knows a text editor to compare two similar text files for differences09:24
antonioben64: here is the image http://i.imgur.com/M2rcjZY.png09:24
antonioThe top two ones were pre-selected...after I tried to install those I got the error messages of http://pastebin.com/QRXU25ea09:25
blackflowkokut: vim09:25
kokutblackflow: i dont know vim and i dont feel like learning atm09:26
kokutdont feel as i dont have time, im at work09:26
blackflowkokut: well you asked, and got an answer.09:26
blackflowkokut: command line diff command can do the similar, eg, 'diff file_a file_b09:27
blackflowkokut: and no fancy keyboard gymnastics to learn09:27
Ben64antonio: run in terminal  -- "sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly"09:27
hateballkokut: kate+kompare09:28
hateballkokut: you can compare files in libreoffice writer as well09:28
bekksOr in eclipse or netbeans.09:29
antoniothanks ben64: have a nice night09:32
patrashello everyone I need a little help09:33
bekkspatras: So ask right away.09:34
patrasrecently I hit "super+p" accidentally and now it causing some problem09:34
patraswith the display09:34
patrasi tried rebooting09:34
patrasbut nothing help09:35
patrasthe problem is only with this user account i'm currently logged in09:36
patrasbekks: have any idea?09:36
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patrasI really need help, anybody there who can help me?09:39
viranihi, I am facing weird issue with terminal09:42
n0lanvirani: what is your issue?09:42
viraniWhen I am on terminal, sometimes it behaves strangely. when I press backspace or tab, it did not show up on terminal and also, when i switch to terminal(alt+tab) it displays like this : http://imgur.com/sK7rLkb09:43
n0lano_O09:43
n0lani dont understand =[09:43
n0lanim sorry09:43
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viranisometimes it freezes and can not see text but it displays terminal's background09:45
KaliHelpPleaseHello09:49
Ben64you're on kali linux?09:50
KaliHelpPleaseNo its about installing it09:50
Ben64then you should ask in #kali-linux09:50
KaliHelpPleasealright. i didnt know that existed09:50
TJ-virani: I remember seeing that a few years ago. It was caused by the gterm being configured to use compositing. At that time it could be disabled, and would fix the issue. I'm not sure if that option is still available or what it is called though - you'd have to explore the configuration options09:50
vuurdraakHi all, I just found out that:  Unity Desktop Integration 3.0.2 is breaking the search engine addon from moziall firefox, I have to disable it to install new search engines09:51
vuurdraakIm using Ubuntu 14.04 64bit LTS09:51
SergioEDuran1Hi09:51
viraniTJ: thanks, i will explore on gterm09:51
vuurdraaklol i didnt know a bold thingy was copy past sorry :)09:51
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SergioEDuran1I have some issues with network manager and the screen locking09:55
SergioEDuran1when the screen is locked long time Network manager has issues and them I have not internet09:57
SergioEDuran1my drivers are iwlwifi09:58
SergioEDuran1somebody know how fix is?10:03
vuurdraakmaybe disable powersaving/screen going blank, and manualy shutting the screen down as a temp work around ?10:04
SergioEDuran1maybe10:05
SergioEDuran1could be an option10:05
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vuurdraakonly thing i could think of, warning im a gamer not an ubuntu dev :)10:07
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oobeSergioEDuran1, I have a small work around script you can use as a cronjob that checks if there is net connectivity and restarts network-manager or whatever you use to connect I actually personally disabled network-manager on any distro as soon as I install but that is a whole other conversation anyway I will paste bin it for you in a second10:11
Guest88686hello10:11
al2o3-cr+10:11
al2o3-cr+10:11
awesomehello10:13
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SergioEDuran1oobe10:13
Guest82857y10:13
SergioEDuran1hmmmmmmmmmmm10:13
SergioEDuran1it is necesary hehe10:13
Guest82857i am jayrod10:13
Guest82857im dead10:15
vegombreihi how does one switch tabs in irssi? is there a better shell client?10:15
Guest88686za10:16
Guest88686klhnkjjjdjdjd10:16
Guest82857who want to b my boyfriend10:17
Ben64Guest82857: Guest88686: go play elsewhere10:18
Guest82857well ben64 i am god10:18
vegombreihi how does one switch tabs in irssi? is there a better shell client?10:19
Ben64vegombrei: alt+[0-9]10:19
vegombreialso plex doesnt find folders in ntfs drives10:19
vegombreiBen64: tried that it doesnt work10:19
Guest82857i need help with something there is no sound on my computer10:19
Tzunamiivegombrei: CTRL+N/P as well10:20
Johnny_Linux!sound | Guest8285710:20
ubottuGuest82857: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.10:20
vegombreiTzunamii: that worked thaks10:20
vegombreithanks10:20
Tzunamiiany time10:20
Guest82857the volume icon isnt there10:20
vegombreidoes anyone use plex media server here ?10:21
Guest82857but the wifi and mail icons r10:21
bekksWhat if someone does?10:21
cloudy_nzI leech off my brother-in-law's plex, hehe10:21
Guest82857someone help i really need it10:22
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Guest82857SOMEONE HELP10:23
Ben64Guest82857: read this first https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc10:23
spodermen_sweganybody home?10:24
cloudy_nzlol the Americans are all snoozing10:24
bekksspodermen_sweg: According to "/names", yes.10:24
oobedid SergioEduran1 change his nick or timeout10:25
oobeif anyone sees him give him this I am afk most of the time http://pastebin.com/RiYKgWhD10:25
bekksoobe: Just send him a notice.10:25
spodermen_swegI installed ubuntu on a flash drive (but now I want to install it on my computers hard drive instead , how can I do this without a CD ? (I have the iso file)10:25
Ben64oobe: haven't seen anyone here with that nick, ever10:26
EriC^^spodermen_sweg: do you have a usb?10:27
cloudy_nzspodermen_sweg, try unetbootin10:27
TJ-oobe: It is "SergioEDuran1"10:28
Ben64oobe: you missed a capital letter, threw off my grep.10:28
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oobebekks, wow I didnt know about notice10:28
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oobeyea10:28
oobeI  typed from memory no tab key when nick is gone anyway notice is cool I sent him it10:29
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spodermen_sweg@EriC^^ and cloudy_nz : I have a usb ; I'll check out unetbootin10:31
spodermen_swegIs a desktop environment usually a biggish (>100mb)  download?10:31
vuurdraakubuntu 14.04 64bit is just shy of 1GB10:32
vuurdraakit might just fit on an 1GB stick after making it bootable10:32
vuurdraaknot sure10:32
spodermen_swegOK and what is the difference between a desktop environment and a distro?10:32
vuurdraakuhm no idea :D10:33
spodermen_swegbecause I've heard of using another DE with ubuntu10:33
spodermen_swegbut I don't understand what that even means10:33
vuurdraakowww, yeh there are different desktop flavours10:33
vuurdraaklike KDE and Unity etc10:33
vuurdraakbut the official Ubuntu uses Unity10:34
vuurdraakif you want to use KDE you need to get Kubuntu10:34
vuurdraakor Mint maybe also uses KDE not sure10:34
spodermen_swegwhat about LXDE?10:34
hateballyou can just install any DE you want, there is no need to download the different ISOs to switch10:34
spodermen_sweghave a slow laptop10:35
spodermen_swegbut how vbig is each DE?10:35
cloudy_nzLXDE comes with Lubuntu, I use it all day at work10:35
cloudy_nzLubuntu is good for machines without much RAM10:35
Guest82857can someone help i need to watch a video for summer break and i need the sound on10:36
vuurdraak<Guest82857> is sound working for other aplications ?10:36
Guest88686no10:37
spodermen_swegI just want to know how big LXDE is to download seperately10:37
spodermen_swegI have ubuntu and I cannot get another distro atm , so I need a lightweight DE asap10:37
hateballspodermen_sweg: just type "sudo apt-get install lxde" in a terminal and it'll tell you what it needs to download10:38
vuurdraak<Guest88686> do you see any sound card in the sound settings ?10:38
Guest88686were is the sound sttings10:39
vuurdraaktop right in the unity bar10:39
vuurdraakthe )))) symbol10:39
Guest88686wait the icon isint there10:39
vuurdraaklooks like no soundcard was detected at all then on install10:39
vuurdraakwhat do you see when you type: alsamixer :in a terminal10:40
Guest88686a graph10:42
spodermen_sweghateball : won't that just start the download instantly?10:42
vuurdraakdoes it name a soundcard ?10:42
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hateballspodermen_sweg: No10:43
hateballspodermen_sweg: You'll have to type Y or N10:43
vuurdraak<Guest88686> press F2 in alsamixer to see if any soundcard was recognized at all10:43
vuurdraak<Guest88686> with me it shows my soundblaster crad and Nvidia's HD audio10:44
spodermen_swegOK , thank you10:44
Guest82857it just says selct file10:44
vuurdraak<Guest88686> are you using the soundchip thats onboard on your motherboard ?10:45
Guest88686i dont know10:45
vuurdraakmaybe it was disabled in the bios ?10:45
cloudy_nzI use pavucontrol to sort out audio10:45
vuurdraakit could be a good idea to reboot and go to the bios, to check first if the soundcard/chip is enabled10:45
spodermen_swegsudo password won't let me type??10:46
Guest88686what bios10:46
vuurdraak<Guest88686> unless you have dual boot and you know that sound works in win10:46
Guest88686no idea wat ur talkin about10:47
vuurdraakwhen you start the computer, you can get (in most cases) in to your bios by pressing Del10:47
vuurdraakright whne it starts10:48
Guest78 /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER byterider twottqbwykmd10:48
cuqa__well done10:48
vuurdraaknormaly it should be on though, but onboard sound can also be disabled10:48
vuurdraak<Guest88686> so it would be nice to know if it's on10:48
Guest82857k but im updating10:49
almarkvideo cards also have audio these days10:49
spodermen_sweg24kb/s what the hell10:49
ssfdre38chroot problem, i am getting E: No such script: vivid10:50
ssfdre38 when i put sudo debootstrap ‐‐variant=buildd ‐‐arch i386 vivid /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ all the time10:50
vuurdraakalmark yeh true, but his alsamixer stays empty nothing p[roducing any sound is detected, im asuming its an old pc10:50
Johnny_Linuxback in the day, that was fast10:50
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spodermen_swegthe day must have been 3 July 2015BC10:53
MonkeyDustssfdre38  compared it with my chroot build command, it looks correct... try a different ftp serve, is what i can think of... so not archive.ubuntu.com10:53
samsongoddyhello i am new to ubuntu10:54
vuurdraak2015 bc lol10:54
vuurdraak<samsongoddy> welcome to ubuntu :)10:54
ssfdre38that the thing its just wanting to launch at all or read the config file for it10:54
MonkeyDustsamsongoddy  welcome, this is the ubuntu support channel10:54
Guest82857spoodermen_spegg10:54
samsongoddyyeah i was on the wiki page10:54
MonkeyDustvuurdraak  you don't need the <> ... hit sa [tab]10:54
vuurdraaktab ?10:54
MonkeyDustyes10:55
vuurdraaki just copy the name :)10:55
Guest82857i love you10:55
samsongoddyso i am a Nigerian, and i was hoping if i could contribute or join and existing group10:55
vuurdraakhow i use tab ?10:55
MonkeyDustvuurdraak  the key on the left, with the two horizontal arrows10:55
cfhowlett!contribute | samsongoddy10:55
ubottusamsongoddy: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu10:55
vuurdraaki mean how to use it :) but i saw now somthing use tab with part of the name10:55
vuurdraakstill it's easier to copy it with the mouse in one go :)10:56
samsongoddyis there any Nigerian here10:56
MonkeyDustvuurdraak  are you using a computer or a pĥone to go on the internet?10:56
vuurdraakpc10:56
Guest88686spodermen_sweg i love you10:56
vuurdraakaaaah i type halve the name and then press tab10:57
ssfdre38MonkeyDust, http://ssfdre38.info/img/xubuntu.png this is what i get myself when i just try and run the comand10:57
ssfdre38vuurdraak, just type the first 4 letter of the name and then press tab10:57
vuurdraaki didn't know the tab trick :')10:57
MonkeyDustvuurdraak  got it?10:57
vuurdraakstill there are many guests :)10:57
vuurdraakyup thanks10:58
linuxuz3rhow do i install libc10:58
ssfdre38yea that is the beauty of nameserv not identify to people10:58
spodermen_swegssfdre38: My familt thanks you for your contribution to my knowledge11:00
samsongoddyThanks guys hoping on working with ubuntu11:00
spodermen_swegssfdre38: The entire sweg tribe thanks you11:00
ssfdre38what11:01
ssfdre38yea MonkeyDust even with a different mirror it says the same thing11:02
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spodermen_swegfor teaching the tab trick to us who have not yet been enlightened11:03
angel_30Hey guys, i have a problem since I use ubuntu on laptop and the battery is draining like crazy, I hat TLP since it crashed my mouse driver last time is there any alternatives so I can work longer on the laptop?11:03
angel_30hate i meant11:04
Miawhen I connect to my server via sftp I do not see some files and folders11:04
Miawhy can this be?11:04
ssfdre38Mia, what files and folders are you trying to view11:04
Miausr local bin11:04
Miausr/local/bin11:05
Miathrough the ssh console when I do "dir" I can see a lot of stuff ther11:05
Miabut when I'm connected via sftp it's all empty11:05
ssfdre38type ls -al not dir11:05
Miahm what does dir do?11:05
ssfdre38its just the windows directory tree command ls -al will show you everything in your directory11:06
Miassfdre38, http://i.imgur.com/8gdr0zE.png this is the image I get11:07
Miathere is only "node" there11:07
Miathen what is the ret of the stuff?11:07
angel_30there are js scripts...11:08
angel_30I suggest leave it11:08
Miaangel_30, it's empty folder though11:08
MonkeyDustssfdre38  i was away a moment ... you have to specify a source ... i saw archive.ubuntu.com in your paste ... try another11:08
MiaI'm trying o uninstall nodejs competely11:08
ssfdre38MonkeyDust, http://ssfdre38.info/img and check xubuntu1.png and xubuntu3.png11:10
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Miassfdre38, angel_30 -- can you give me more inf on this please11:10
ssfdre38Mia, those are hidden files and what directory are you on11:10
Miassfdre38, so I don't see them right?11:10
ssfdre38nope11:11
Miathat's what I meant. I don't see them through sftp client11:11
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angel_30i tried to use the commands in the TLP's manpages and the problem is it tried to hook on cpu_governor but it fails to do so11:11
angel_30and it affects my startup11:11
ssfdre38Mia, what ftp client are you using11:11
Miaxftp11:12
angel_30(using in windows machine because CLI is still doin soemthing)11:12
MonkeyDustssfdre38  you are alraeady root, so drop tre sudo11:12
MonkeyDustthe*11:12
ssfdre38i just do that cause im following the community wiki but even so its still not working11:13
Miassfdre38, xftp11:13
MonkeyDustssfdre38  sudo is used to give you root permission, don't need that when you are root11:13
ssfdre38Mia, check your preferance and try and see if you can have hidden files show11:13
Miayes it's checked ssfdre3811:14
ssfdre38MonkeyDust, i know im just copying and pasting11:14
angel_30what command is that btw?11:14
MonkeyDustssfdre38  exit root and then copy paste the command11:14
ssfdre38i did and same resault11:14
angel_30Mia can I ask, what is foreverd in the list?11:15
ssfdre38i even reboot the virtual xubuntu with sudo reboot11:15
Miaangel_30, it's a script that I installed with npm11:16
ssfdre38Mia, what directory are you in on your ssh and what directory are you in on your sftp11:16
Miasame11:16
angel_30oh (yet in my country they say there's no such thing as foreverd)11:16
ssfdre38what directory11:16
Miausr/local/bin ssfdre3811:16
michael_phi11:17
michael_pi have tried installing 14:10 the prob is my screen display turns off11:17
angel_30is it livecd?11:18
michael_pyes11:18
angel_30never say like a boot error or something?11:19
ssfdre38Mia, yea it can be just that your ftp client doesnt translate the redirect files11:19
ssfdre38michael_p, turn off how?11:19
michael_pdisplays no signal11:19
ssfdre38MonkeyDust, http://ssfdre38.info/img/xubuntu4.png11:19
michael_pi get the little man and the ruler type logo and thats it11:20
angel_30did u check for md5hashsum11:20
angel_30is it ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu-11:20
michael_pk11:21
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angel_30the plain ubuntu, michael_p?11:22
michael_pthe only way i can install it is through minimal cd11:23
ssfdre38michael_p, what website did you get the ubuntu iso from and there isnt a minimal cd from ububnt11:23
michael_pand select kubuntu then11:23
angel_30I get it11:24
angel_30Ubuntu minimal Cds are developed but not yet ready I guess11:24
michael_phttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.1011:24
ssfdre38michael_p, what is the file name of the iso11:25
michael_pkubuntu 14:10 amd 6411:27
ssfdre38dont remove any _ or any .iso just copy and paste11:27
MonkeyDustssfdre38  did you install dchroot ?11:27
ssfdre38yup11:27
michael_phttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/utopic/release/11:28
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murchais it possible to print TotalRequest/second for an individual IP accessing my webserver?11:29
MonkeyDustssfdre38  the paste is incomplete on the left ... does it say ftp: ... ?11:29
MonkeyDustlike ftp.examle.com11:30
ssfdre38for what MonkeyDust11:30
MonkeyDustssfdre38  http://ftp.example.com ... not sure if it makes a difference ... troubleshooting11:31
ssfdre38oh for the mirror and no that is not what the mirror url is11:32
MonkeyDustssfdre38  find a mirror with ftp11:33
ssfdre38i dont think cause its http:// and not ftp:// is not the problem cause ive always used http:// in the past just fine11:34
michael_pno luck11:34
michael_pi could try the internal video card but i dont like my chances11:35
MonkeyDustssfdre38  i mean: http://ftp ...11:35
ssfdre38michael_p, try that cause it can be your gpu11:35
TheEagerPadawanis there a way to securely erase the files that are in currently in your trash11:35
ssfdre38MonkeyDust, that wont matter cause as long as it access the mirror just fine it wont matter the url11:36
MonkeyDustssfdre38  i'm out of ideas now11:36
zack_s_how can I insert in the explorer a path?11:36
michael_pit seams a waste on a good video card nvidia gtx 76011:36
Exagone313hello, is there an alternative for grub to automatically detect all OS on the system? I installed ubuntu on a usb key to use it on multiple computers with different configurations11:37
TJ-ssfdre38: " E: No such script: vivid" is caused when you've got an older version of debootstrap installed. Look in "/usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/" for the release ("vivid")11:37
michael_phmm11:37
ssfdre38it has vivid11:39
ssfdre38TJ-, http://ssfdre38.info/img/xubuntu7.png11:40
ausias?11:42
ausiashi11:42
rihbynehello guys11:44
rihbynemy external hdd has slow cp, mv operations. tail -f on /dev/sdb1 gives me critical medium error on sdb1.11:45
rihbyneTiming buffered disk reads:   2 MB in 52.55 seconds =  38.97 kB/sec11:45
michael_pwould i be able to install nvidia drivers if i am on an onboard graphics card11:45
rihbyneTiming cached reads:     2 MB in 54.17 seconds =  37.81 kB/sec11:46
ssfdre38michael_p, it a restricted driver so you need to install it after you install the bast kubuntu system so its switching to your intergrated graphics card and then one you install it then install the restricted dirvers and set it up for your graphics card11:47
MonkeyDustrihbyne  try rsync instead of cp11:47
michael_palso is thatre a 14:10 cd just a command line11:48
michael_pno desktop at all11:48
rihbyneMonkeyDust: how is rsync different from cp ?11:48
angel_30hey guys, I'm trying to put my machine's GPU in proprietary driver but it just keeps putting it back on flgrx-wrapper11:49
angel_30any help?11:49
TJ-ssfdre38: Ha! "‐‐arch i386" should be "‐‐arch=i386"11:49
rihbynealso MonkeyDust what difference will it result in ?11:49
ssfdre38ok that worked but now chroot /var/chroot/ is not working and its not downloading the base os11:50
MonkeyDustrihbyne  rsync is pretty fast, try it, see if there's a difference ... i use rsync for my backups11:50
EriC^^rihbyne: rsync uses a differencing algorithm to copy files, and it checksums the files after they're copied11:50
EriC^^rihbyne: also it only copies files if they've been modified by default11:50
michael_psomething like freebsd those11:50
ssfdre38michael_p, again its just a restricted dirver that isnt on the livecd so put your monitor on your intergrated vga port and you will see the desktop11:51
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rihbyneEriC^^: MonkeyDust I issue is with the external hard drive. I am getting critical medium error on /dev/sdb111:53
SeanJAndersonHiya folks, I'm having trouble getting key authentication to work between WinSCP/Putty and Ubuntu 14 using the built in OpenSSH, I'm new to this, not really sure what im doing wrong, or honestly, if I'm doing anything right XD11:53
EriC^^rihbyne: run a smart test on the drive, and if it's toast backup or make an image of it11:54
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rihbyneEriC^^: okay, how much time will it take to image data of size 465GB ?11:55
EriC^^rihbyne: about 5 hours maybe depends on your transfer rate11:56
linbyndSeanJAnderson, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys has some nice info on setting up ssh keys..11:58
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SeanJAndersonI've already read through that, Thanks linbynd!12:01
TJ-ssfdre38: I've pinned it down. debootstrap is failing to parse the --variant= option and as a result everything else gets shifted one place along12:03
linbyndSean, if you have generated the keys on the ubuntu box, pull the private key on your windows box to use, you would need to convert the private key to a ppk file on windows12:04
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linbyndor you can install putty on the ubuntu box as well, it comes with a program "puttygen" on the terminal.. to convert to a ppk file12:06
Guest77721hola12:07
TJ-ssfdre38: What language is your keyboard set to?12:08
linbyndand run the following command on the key " puttygen my-ssh.com-key -o key.ppk"12:08
SeanJAndersonlinbynd:  I've got Puttygen on my pc, and got a generated key from there12:08
linbyndand then on the windows box you can use the ppk for access.12:08
linbyndso the public part of the key should be in the users authorized_keys file on the ubuntu server.. that should do it.12:10
SeanJAndersonRight linbynd, thats what i've done so far, yet its still saying it refuses my key12:10
SeanJAndersonI wonder if restarting my server would fix it...12:10
bekksSeanJAnderson: So which file did you append to authorized_keys ?12:10
SeanJAndersonIn putty gen there is an area that says, "Copy for OpenSSH"12:11
TJ-ssfdre38: Your input method has encoded "--" (0x2d 0x2d) as 0x80 0x9012:12
TJ-ssfdre38: correction, each "-" as 0xe2 0x80 0x9012:13
linbyndSeanJAnderson: So you generated the keys, (private, public) both on the windows box or you copied the keys from the ubuntu box for the user..12:15
SeanJAndersonyep linbynd!12:16
spodermen_sweghi12:16
SeanJAndersonrestarting server now, let me try that12:16
spodermen_sweghow can I install ubuntu without a CD? I have the iso file12:17
MonkeyDustspodermen_sweg  with a usb stick12:17
ssfdre38TJ-, even with just - not -- it still gives the same with no output12:17
TJ-ssfdre38: Noooo! your input method is encoding each "-" not as ASCII but as what looks like UTF-8, therefore the "--" you have don't match when the script looks at the command line arguments12:18
TJ-ssfdre38: instead of encoding each "-" as 0x2d it encodes it as 0xe2 0x80 0x9012:19
spodermen_swegMonkeyDust: Would it be easier to use a DVD or usb?12:19
ssfdre38TJ-, well with both ways http://ssfdre38.info/img/xubuntu8.png is what happens12:20
TJ-ssfdre38: I copied your command line from IRC into a terminal and could reproduce your error. When  I analysed it by piping through hexdump I could see the byte encodings were wrong12:20
MonkeyDustspodermen_sweg  'better' depends on what you prefer ... i guess usb is more common than dvd nowadays12:20
ssfdre38spodermen_sweg, use usb as its faster to install12:21
linbynd+1 USB, you can use unetbootin prepare the usb with ubuntu on it..12:21
spodermen_swegOK , unetbootin it is12:22
TJ-ssfdre38: I've replaced your "--" encodings with the ASCII encodings. If you copy-paste them from here I will bet it'll work:   sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch=i386 vivid /var/chroot/ http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/12:22
ertuoohi12:22
ssfdre38yup that worked thanks TJ-12:22
MonkeyDustssfdre38  problem solved?12:23
ssfdre38yup12:23
TJ-ssfdre38: So you need to sort out your locale/input method language settings12:23
ssfdre38its just using the default settings12:23
ertuoowhen you unplug electric power on a device which is runing under ubuntu, how can identify that action under the log of ubuntu ?12:23
MonkeyDustTJ-  +1  how did you know the difference between ascii and utf-8 ?12:23
TJ-ssfdre38: indeed... and will give oyu no end of probelms if it does this all the time12:23
bekksertuoo: you cannot. no power, no logs.12:24
TJ-MonkeyDust: I added "set -x" to the start of "/usr/sbin/debootstrap" which is a shell script. I then looked at how it processed the command line and saw it ignored the options. So then I piped the line copied form IRC through hexedit and saw the encodings for the "-" were 3 bytes each, rather than the expected single ASCII byte 0x2d12:25
linbyndTJ: Awesome!!12:26
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* MonkeyDust wipes forehead while reading that12:26
TJ-I wouldn't have been able to detect that if ssfdre38 hadn't done an actual paste of the command line into IRC. Typing it myself, as MonkeyDust discovered, had the command working fine12:27
linbyndI usually run the tree command to on dir if the output is formated with "----" then its ASCII else with UTF8 its complete straight line.. laymen detection12:27
TJ-Here look at the 2nd line, from the 2nd column in, which shows 2 lots of the UTF bytes before the "variant=" string http://paste.ubuntu.com/11815224/12:28
ertuooi said when you unplug the electric power, it should something on the log that we can see the power off12:29
TJ-Now compare it it the ASCII encoding here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11815232/12:29
ssfdre38ertuoo, laptop, desktop or server?12:30
BluesKajHiyas all12:32
bekksertuoo: If your device loses power, you dont see it, since it is powered off.12:32
mosesdoes anyone know how to edit the backlight settings on laptops12:35
bloopcan someone help me get my microphone working?12:37
bloopit used to work until a major update12:37
jpentlandhow can I make sure flash is always up to date? Every time there is an update for Firefox, it starts complaining saying that my Flash is out of date and I can't use Flash again until it gets brought into the main repos.12:38
bloopjpentland: I use chromium12:38
bloopand there's a repo that I use for updates to flash12:38
blooplet me find it for you12:38
bloopthere may be one for firefox as well12:39
ertuooit is server12:39
bloopjpentland: I use Chromium with pepper-flash-player12:40
ssfdre38ertuoo, unless you have a seperate system montering it, once you unplug the power cable its off no writting to logs or to the drive at all12:40
ertuooyes of coursei i understand that once you unplug cable the system is off12:41
jpentlandbloop, I need to stick with firefox12:42
ertuoofor me it is not normal it don't writting on the log before and after the power faillure12:42
ssfdre38that means it wont write to the logs that it was powered off, it will just stop so if you want a way to see when the server is off unexptedly, then you will see a seperate system to do so12:42
bloopfair enough12:43
ssfdre38ertuoo, its more then normal its expected to happen12:43
chris__Hi there I had force quit icon on my unity bar to the left hand side and I went to click an icon below this and it clicked force quit instead in doing so it managed to force quit the unity bar usually it pops back but after restarting ubuntu It has not come back - I have tried many articles and terminal commands but to no progress anyone got any ideas?!?12:43
ertuoook if you done a hard reboot with power button off, this action is recorded on the log or not ?12:45
ssfdre38nope12:45
ssfdre38its just like pulling the plug12:45
mosesok12:46
mosesany way to optimize laptop battery12:46
moseslife12:46
mosesusing ubuntu12:46
ertuooi expect an answer saying the user hold the power button within 10 sec that's why the system is off12:46
ertuoowhen you reboot the system and checking the log12:46
ertuoois that possible or not ?12:46
ssfdre38ertuoo, no cause its just like pulling the plug again its just safer then getting electuited12:48
MonkeyDustmoses  try TLP12:52
MonkeyDustmoses  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html12:53
ertuoofor me this is not a normal operation mode12:54
mosesbrb12:55
ssfdre38ertuoo, well for the rest of the world it is12:55
michael_pgreat thats sorted12:56
MonkeyDustertuoo  there's an app called gnome-system-log12:56
michael_ptommrrow i try my graphics card12:56
moseswindows has such better power optimization12:58
ssfdre38michael_p, again just install the restricted drivers and you will be fine12:58
MonkeyDustmoses  yes, and other things are better in linux12:58
cfhowlettand macs run OSX flawlessly --- so what?12:59
mosesso linux sucks for laptops :/12:59
ssfdre38moses, not true it depends on what your trying to do12:59
ssfdre38the heaver the resrouces and processes the more battery power you use13:00
MonkeyDustmoses  i saved this quote i read here in #ubuntu: "you won't get a system that behaves the same way as a windows system.. linux has its own advantages and disadvantages..you just learn to live with a different set of annoying things =)"13:01
cfhowlettheck that deserves to be a factoid!13:01
TJ-moses: it depends on the laptop make/model and how well the manufacturers support development of the drivers, just like with Windows. If the manufacturer doesn't support optimised drivers then the PC performance may well suffer using the generic defaults13:02
Hobbet1just go to system76 moses lol their laptops are ooptimized for ubuntu13:03
TJ-moses: given equivalent driver support Linux can out-perform Windows; it depends on the workload profile13:04
SeanJAndersonI feel everything has its place, TJ- Windows is best suited for the majority of people, who need simple systems, I would never try to get my parent's running on linux. Linux is great where performance is neccesary, like servers, and workstations.13:06
SeanJAndersonthe average person doesn't really need that bit of difference13:06
SeanJAndersonthat said, theres no doubt that its better than windows overall, and does need more driver support13:07
Hobbet1i disagree SeanjAnderson about parents and using linux, i probably wouldnt let them use ubuntu but i would set up a lubuntu box for them since it looks and feels like windows13:09
TJ-SeanJAnderson: Many users report that installing Linux for their (grand)parents has made everyone's lives easier, and no problems for the users in getting familiar with the OS, and much less support required because of the lack of malware/spam/drive-by downloads/installs13:09
michael_pwould anyone use windows13:09
MonkeyDustit's not the system that counts, it's the apps that run on it13:09
TJ-Most users simply want a web browser email, a bit of word processing and some games13:09
ssfdre38_im on windows right now michael_p and virtually running linux13:10
SeanJAndersonHobbet1:  I <3 Lubuntu13:10
michael_pafter using kubuntu i dont think i could go back13:10
SeanJAndersonI always end up using Lubuntu on my VM dev environments13:10
Hobbet1i just wiped out my hp windows 7 box and it has lubuntu 64bit on it13:11
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SeanJAndersonI use windows as my main system michael, and have a server runing linux that I SSH into13:11
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ssfdre38i have xubuntu on my vm but im going to get a second hdd to lubunut so i have a full system for it13:12
jpentlandhow can I make sure flash is always up to date? Every time there is an update for Firefox, it starts complaining saying that my Flash is out of date and I can't use Flash again until it gets brought into the main repos.13:13
acovrigHow do I download files from sourceforge with wget? I keep getting the HTML download page13:14
EriC^^acovrig: try using the direct link maybe13:14
acovrigEriC^^: I did, it just gives me the HTML of the page, not the actual file...13:15
mosesok13:15
mosesmax battery life is 4 hours13:15
ssfdre38yea on my laptop with windows and just watching local videos i get 5 hrs of battery life on eco mode13:16
mosesi think unity is the problem13:16
mosesits a resource hog13:16
MonkeyDustmoses  yes, it is13:16
slowwalkerвсем привет народ!13:17
cfhowlett!ru | slowwalker13:17
ubottuslowwalker: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.13:17
ssfdre38jpentland, go to https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ and selcect linux with your bit and that way you can keep it up to date outside of the main repo13:17
ssfdre38the latest version for flash for linux is 11.2 so13:18
Hobbet1im bad, i use google for my regular browsing and netflix, i use opera for chat, and i use firefox for amazon instant video watching lol13:20
ssfdre38i just use chrome for everything13:21
MonkeyDustok guys, but use this channel for support questions, take discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic13:22
mosesAnyone here tried ubuntu MATE?13:24
MonkeyDustmoses  i use it in my VM, it's nice13:24
mosesits supposed to be for laptops13:24
mosesdoes it use gnome?13:25
newkemoses, i did. liked it.13:25
mosesnewke: on a laptop?13:25
newkeyes. its good. but i didnt like artifacts from gnome2. like help buttons, old interface...13:26
newkebut its very customizable and pretty low on resources13:26
MonkeyDust!mate13:27
mosesbut it helped save resources no?13:27
newkeit saved battery for sure.13:28
viranihi guys, i need help on fixing Ubuntu issue, i am not sure where is the problem as I am new to Ubuntu13:29
yardlinuxwhat is a recommended  tool for connecting to ubuntu remotely via the internet from another ubuntu machine?13:29
mosesit uses gnome 2 instead of unity?13:29
viraniI was facing issues with terminal, I thought it is within terminal, but today I have seen issues in different applications. it is not intermittent but it is freaking out. I may not describe it in words so please refere this links for the issue i am facing. It is gone after sometimes, it comes randomly13:29
viranihttp://www.screencast.com/t/YVNjmcN7e13:30
viranihttp://imgur.com/La9sfSt13:30
viranihttp://imgur.com/IjEs6KL13:30
ssfdre38yardlinux, use sshd to do that but make sure you have port 22 open though your routers13:30
newkeyardlinux, there is stuff called VNC13:30
viranilast two screenshots displays garbage character13:30
trakinasHello, everyone! I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 and today I simply cannot log in into my account through the GUI. I can start a guest session (like this) and log into cmd.13:31
yardlinuxthanks guys13:31
ssfdre38yardlinux, do you want to see the gui or just want the basic access13:32
trakinasAny idea what can happen?13:32
lotuspsychjetrakinas: did this start after an update?13:32
jpentlandssfdre38, is it really such a good thing to continually install non-ubuntu version though?13:32
ssfdre38jpentland, what do you mean13:33
dartmoia ne ponimaet)))13:33
trakinaslotuspsychje, probably, I'm not sure. I usually update every time ubuntu ask, but I cant remember if there were any update yesterday13:33
trakinaslotuspsychje, dmesg says apparmour blocked lightdm13:33
jpentlandssfdre38, oh i see, they have a repo13:33
ssfdre38who?13:33
lotuspsychjetrakinas: try the recoverymode/fix broken packages perhaps13:33
yardlinuxssfdre38, both if possible13:34
viraniany help please, it is annoying, I have Googled it a lot but could not figure it out13:34
jpentlandssfdre38, adobe13:34
ssfdre38oh if you want to be up to date with adobe then you will have to use adobe's repo or stick with ubuntu's release of flash13:34
ssfdre38yardlinux, then yea sshd and VNC will help you out the best13:35
yardlinuxok13:35
trakinaslotuspsychje, no result for apt-get -f13:36
trakinaslotuspsychje, the strange thing is me being able to log into a guest session13:36
lotuspsychjetrakinas: try making another user13:37
trakinaslotuspsychje, how that will help me?13:37
ssfdre38yardlinux, what is it that you are trying to achive with remote connecting to the other ubuntu install13:37
lotuspsychjetrakinas: to test whats the problem13:37
trakinaslotuspsychje, I see. I will  try that.13:38
yardlinuxssfdre38, I hve installed ubuntu on a new laptop and want to copy my old files over to the new machine when Im at work and hve a lot of free time13:40
murlidharhi all i have bought a usb wifi adapter for my desktop.... but i am still not able to connect to my router.... how to connect it ?13:40
evohello everyone13:40
nikola_ihow do i debug my ubuntu 15.04. It doesn't wakeup from sleep13:41
evoI switched from Windows to Ubuntu a while ago13:41
ssfdre38then i will recommand just get sshd as its less reource heavy and you can still copy files over13:41
evoIn windows I used Internet Download Manager to download bigger files as I can restore the downloads even if the internet breaks, but couldn't find a similar program for Ubuntu. Any Suggestions?13:42
cfhowlettevo, wget -c13:42
yardlinuxssfdre38, ok all i need now is some research into opening port 22 on the router13:42
mistralolevo: wget?13:42
mistralolevo: curl? as well13:43
ssfdre38yardlinux, look up port fowarding with your router name and model number13:43
mistralolyardlinux: i would also recommend not running it on port 22 but on something else because anything that is internet facing on port 22 is constantly password attacked13:44
evocfhowlett, mistralol thanks13:44
yardlinuxssfdre38, I will. I did something similar years ago when I opened a pinhole in my router to allow access to apache13:44
evolet me give it a try13:44
yardlinuxmistralol, thanks for that bit of information13:45
murchabye guys!13:45
ssfdre38yardlinux, but yea change the port number in /etc/ssh/ssh_conf and uncomment Port 22 and change it to a super high number13:46
evocfhowlett, mistralol will it (wget) be able to resume download even after a system restart?13:46
mistralolssfdre38: that isnt required on a port forward just change the high number on the router13:46
yardlinuxssfdre38, I will do that13:46
mistralolevo: yes13:46
cfhowlettevo, wget -c         will13:47
evomistralol, cfhowlett :)13:47
mistralolyardlinux: if you do not want to run on port 22. Use the router configure to specifiy the external port number. So the router can forward from :2222 -> internalip:22 for example13:48
mistralolit saves a config change13:48
evomistralol, cfhowlett: lol, I searched for wget on Ubuntu Software Centre and it shows its already installed. I never knew that :P13:49
ssfdre38evo its part of the base system13:49
cfhowlettevo, yep.  it's a terminal command13:49
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yardlinuxmistralol, thanks13:50
evossfdre38, cfhowlett: thanks, I will take over from here :)13:51
ssfdre38evo in your terminal type man wget to read up on how to use it13:52
ssfdre38it is a really powerful and really useful tool13:53
spodermen_swegGood day to you all13:56
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spodermen_swegGABEN :O13:56
mistralolevo: also works well with another command called screen which means oyu can background the tasks13:56
spodermen_swegI have found myself in a bit of a gherkin13:56
d0lph1n98ubuntu 14.04, npm start output this error --> weird error 13513:57
d0lph1n98any suggestion to fix it?13:57
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evomistralol: will check that!13:59
spodermen_swegI INSTALLED ubuntu 14.04 on a flash drive and I am running it from there [NOTE: not liveUSB,but actual install] and now I want to install on my laptop's hard drive instead , so I downloaded uNetbootin , but I am having trouble using it13:59
cfhowlettspodermen_sweg, best practice: download the ubuntu .iso, make your usb, install ubuntu from that.13:59
spodermen_swegIf I have the iso on an external drive or on the laptop's hard drive and want to 'burn' it to a flash drive , how do I do that? Please provide step by step instructions because I feel like I might mess it up14:00
cfhowlett!usb | spodermen_sweg14:00
ubottuspodermen_sweg: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:00
trakinascan anyone help me? I simply cannot log in with my user into GUI. I can log in on command line14:03
cfhowletttrakinas, test: login to the guest account.14:04
trakinascfhowlett, Im here using the guest login14:04
trakinascfhowlett, this happened from night to day, literally.14:04
cfhowletttrakinas, getting in to guest suggests that this is fixable.  I remember something like this from a while back.  don't remember the solution, but it was a super easy fix.  stay in channel, ask again.  make sure you mention you have guest access14:06
trakinasI tried resetting Xauthotority and resintalling lightdm. Didn't fix. I hope someone can help me soon, because I need to work. I'm at my office right now.14:07
lotuspsychjetrakinas: did you try grub recoverymode/fix broken packages?14:08
lotuspsychje!recovery | trakinas14:09
ubottutrakinas: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode14:09
trakinaslotuspsychje, I already did. Reset passwords and stuff. I just didn't create a new user with GUI access because I don't remember how to do that through command like14:15
trakinas*line14:15
trakinaslotuspsychje, dpkg brought no fixable packages, and system is up to date.14:16
MonkeyDusttrakinas  make sure partitions are 100% full14:16
MonkeyDusttrakinas  make sure no partitions are 100% full14:16
trakinasMonkeyDust, no partition at 100%14:20
TJ-trakinas: the $HOME/.xsession-errors might have some clues, as might /var/log/auth.log and /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log14:21
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bluepanterHi i hAvE A StRaNgE PrObLeM EvErY SeCoNd cHaRaCtEr i uPpErCaSe aNy sUgGeStIoN?14:32
ikoniastop messing around ?14:33
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nWoodsbluepanter Try changing another keyboard layout14:33
trakinasTJ- :  PAM seems to be firing an error related with login permissions... http://pastebin.com/EPMsj6RR14:34
bluepanterchAnGe lAyOuT DoEsNt hElP14:35
mistralolis there anything specific i need to do to get the omxh264decoder to work on raspbian. It seems to load for me then just sit there and wont decode any video14:36
mistralolbah wrong window :D14:37
bluepanteri WoRk wItH NoMAcHiNe sO If iM LuKy a rEcOnNeCt hElPs:-(14:38
compdocUbuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) reaches End of Life on July 23, 201514:39
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filip2192hello! can someone help me i have problem with dualmonitor set-up. Im using Kubuntu :)14:41
trakinasbrb14:41
madmouser1filip2192: what version of kubuntu and what is the problem, just state it all and someone will help if tehy can14:42
bluepanterseveral hitting capslock fixed the problem:-)14:45
filip2192---Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS.--- Im using both integrated graphics and  gpu. 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8400]14:51
filip219201:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland XT [Radeon HD 8670 / R7 250]. Each one is connected to one monitor. It works right now but when i install proprietary driver it wont work. I wouldn't install that drivers but i have nasty spikes and i cannot play videos on youtube in higher resolution. Thank you :)14:51
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dbuggerHello guys. I am trying to convert some VOB files from a DVD into a H.264 file with the following command: "avconv -i concat:"VTS_01_1.VOB|VTS_01_2.VOB|VTS_01_3.VOB|VTS_01_4.VOB" -vcodec libx264 -q 6 -ab 128k out.mpg". For some reason, when I open the file, I see nothing. what am I missing?14:51
mistralolfilip2192: so ask the propiatary driver people to fix it :)14:52
MonkeyDustdbugger  not sure what you are missing, but try winff, it's a nice gui for ffmpeg/avconv14:52
MonkeyDust!info winff14:53
ubottuwinff (source: winff): graphical video and audio batch converter using ffmpeg or avconv. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5.3-4ubuntu1 (vivid), package size 113 kB, installed size 1493 kB14:53
filip2192mistralol: hahah ty. I though that i can find some solution, but ok. I cannot anymore use Windows for development its nasty.14:54
dbuggerMonkeyDust, is that for me?14:54
MonkeyDustdbugger  as i put your name in front: yes that's for you14:55
dbuggerMonkeyDust, I didnt see my name. That is why I asked14:55
dbuggerMonkeyDust, Oh I see, i missed the first message14:55
dmiles_afkthe 'su' i got with unbuntu 14.0.4 doesnt have --session-command .. is there a package that has 'su' with this feature?14:56
soee_someone is using fancontrol and have some problems with it ?14:56
bloopCan someone help me to get my internal mic working14:57
dmiles_afk ctrl+c in a shell that has been su:d terminates the shell is there a workarround?14:58
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MonkeyDustdmiles_afk  doenst behave that way here, must be someting else15:00
dmiles_afkMonkeyDust (here is my reproducion)   su -c "sleep 10" -s /bin/bash root    <you can pick a infereir user besides root>15:00
dmiles_afkdurring tht 10 seconds press corrl-c15:01
dmiles_afk"Session terminated, terminating shell... ...terminated."15:01
dmiles_afki'd like it to simply break the command15:01
dmiles_afkon other linuxs you can:   su --session-command "sleep 10" -s /bin/bash root      and get the behavoir i am looking for15:03
dmiles_afkMonkeyDust: but maybe you are getting the behaour i want.. what happens when you press control-C ?15:03
trakinasIt looks like it was a keyboard configuration problem (thanks Arch forum! haha!)15:04
trakinasSince I was able to log in into tty *and* use the Xchat without problem, I'd never guessed.15:04
trakinasThat's the down side for not having to type your login screen name, I guess.15:05
trakinasthanks for the uspportm guys!15:05
MonkeyDustdmiles_afk  out of curiosity: after 10 seconds, it goes back to normal user... so what is the purpose of that command?15:05
dmiles_afkwell what i have is i am running a debugger instead of the 10 seconds15:05
dmiles_afkso i use control-C to get to the sub-debug15:06
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dmiles_afki dont want to debug this as root .. is i run:  (sudo su -l -s $SHELL -c "(swipl ${RUNFILE})" prologmud )15:07
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dmiles_afkMonkeyDust: if i "su - prologmud" then   swipl ${RUNFILE}  .. i can press control-C15:08
MonkeyDustdmiles_afk  i see, but #bash is a better place to ask, I guess15:08
dmiles_afkbut if i want to run a shell script with "swipl ${RUNFILE}  "  then su gets in the way15:08
dmiles_afkreally what i am looking for is a resoluton to http://askubuntu.com/questions/405568/why-cant-i-use-su-session-command-on-ubuntu15:09
dmiles_afkbut going to ask in bash15:09
notpratheekI need some help with notify-send. I'm using i3wm, and the notify-send notifications are not blurred anymore. Is the compositor missing ?15:10
notpratheekIn unity, these notifications work fine (with the blur and transparency-on-hower)15:11
samsongoddyhello all15:15
samsongoddyi am new to ubuntu15:15
sagar_haniHey I needed a help regarding locales.15:16
sagar_haniI get this error -15:17
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sagar_haniasciinema needs a UTF-8 native locale to run. Check the output of `locale` command.15:17
sagar_haniHow do I fix this ?15:17
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philipwtest.15:20
MonkeyDustphilipw  it works, we can see you15:21
philipwty15:21
dmiles_afkgads my issue is ubuntu only ;(15:24
dmiles_afki might be able to workarround by making a script ssh in and run the command15:26
hypernovahello15:32
dmiles_afkubuntu's 'su' purposely left out the feature i needed   su --session-command "mydebugger" some_user   it was unsecure15:35
dmiles_afki was hoping some shell wrapper could workarround the bug15:36
blib1https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9873 - am trying to read output from this using ubuntu. Any ideas how to debug a serial FTDI device - no output is all I can get for now.15:36
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ljoseHi, is there an Ubuntu 15.04 image for ARMHF?15:39
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OerHeksljose, i find netboot images only, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/15.04/15:41
OerHeksarm64 - For 64-bit ARM (ARMv8)15:42
OerHeksarmhf (generic, generic-lpae) - For 32-bit ARM (ARMv7)15:42
blib1dmesg: [drm:intel_dp_start_link_train [i915]] *ERROR* failed to enable link training - any ideas what this is?15:44
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tacitlyhello, I'm getting this message when I want to do search on google: http://is.gd/D2SL4v15:51
OerHeksThe error page most likely shows a CAPTCHA (a squiggly word with a box below it). To continue using Google, type the squiggly word into the box.15:55
OerHekshttps://support.google.com/websearch/answer/8664015:55
OerHekstacitly ^^15:55
OerHeksclear cookies, remove ~/.config/google-chrome & restart the browser15:57
QuorraHello! Does anyone know how to use ifconfig in Ubuntu running on Crouton on a Chromebook?15:58
Quorrathe default "ifconfig" command does not register15:58
smoking_peanutsQuorra are you able to get to the terminal?15:59
QuorraYes, it is XTerm though, not the default terminal I use on a normal installation of Ubuntu 14.0415:59
ricardI may not leave at the option of xmp bios because my memory has the option xmp16:00
smoking_peanutsso if you type ifconfig is says something like that command doesn't exist?16:02
FelixFire619Hello, Ubuntu 14.04 server, I have a file. with a .tar.gz.orig ext, can this be unpacked and if so like normal?16:02
QuorraWait I got it!16:02
QuorraI used /sbin/ifconfig16:02
Quorranow i can link it to just ifconfig16:02
ricardin my bios I do not leave me the option xmp can be because my RAM does not have the option xmp16:07
SkyriderGreetings all16:13
MonkeyDustricard  you've come here several times with that same question. you were told that it is not for this channel16:13
ricardMonkeyDust, sorry16:17
hypernovahello im trying to install https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads16:20
nicu_hey16:20
nicu_is there an app for ubuntu similar to Mission Control in OSX?16:20
hypernovaim not sure whoich one16:20
roryricard: Try askin in #techsupport on irc.snoonet.org, that is a more general tech support channel16:20
nicu_k thx16:21
rorynicu_: Yes it's called virtual desktops16:21
rorynicu_: and Ubuntu had it first :P16:21
ricardrory, thakyou16:21
roryoh well suit yourself16:21
hypernovahttps://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-5876016:32
hypernovaplese this bug i have and im trying to resolve any help would be amazing!16:32
hypernovaplease some help16:36
hypernovawhich one od these https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads do i install on ubunto 15.04 and how??16:36
ssfdre38hypernova, intel graphics works with linux just fine16:38
hypernovanope16:38
MonkeyDusthypernova  i have intel graphics, works like a charm, out of the box (in 14.04)16:39
ssfdre38same16:39
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hypernovahttps://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-5876016:39
ssfdre38i have an Intel HD Graphics card on my laptop that works just fine with the 15.0416:39
hypernovathats my bug16:39
ssfdre38that is mojang not linux or ubunut16:39
hypernovayes read it16:40
ssfdre38i did16:40
hypernovasooo16:40
hypernovawhat do i do?16:40
ssfdre38its with minecraft openGL not linux or ubuntu16:40
hypernovahurm16:40
hypernovawell16:40
hypernovamy screen flickers in miencraft16:40
hypernovawhen im playign with my bro16:40
hypernovaquite annoying16:40
OerHeksis it your bug, "Windows 8.1, latest Java version" ???16:41
OerHeksLolz16:41
hypernovaerm no16:41
hypernovalolz16:41
ssfdre38its cause the openGL has a bug in it and its just not rendering right with minecraft its not Linux or ubuntu related16:41
hypernovatime to go digging though bugs again ;(16:41
MonkeyDusthypernova  in short, it seems your question is not for this channel16:42
ssfdre38hypernova, just so you know mojang has a huge backlog of 6 months+ of bugs and e-mails so just sit tight16:42
OerHeksintel is no racemonster, but should work fine16:43
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hypernovahaha16:43
hypernovaim not sure if the problem is mojang ubuntu or intel related...16:43
ssfdre38its not even that good as a gaming graphics card16:43
hypernovayeah it should16:43
ssfdre38i will tell you this its openGL so its both Mojang and Intel graphics drivers but not linux16:44
hypernovaim saving up for a i5 4690k and a 98016:44
hypernovaaaaa  erhm16:44
hypernovaok thanks16:44
hypernovaill just play wioth flicker ;((16:44
hexafractionIs there a way I can install AMD Catalyst drivers for only a single kernel version/grub menu entry? I'd like to give the driver a try again since I was having issues with older versions, but I don't want to have to reinstall if something goes wrong (which had to happen last time)?16:49
hexafractionThe graphics hardware in question is an AMD/ATI Sumo Radeon 6480g on an APU.16:50
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cheetahw26how can I automatically accept or click OK to prompts when installing from apt-get install... I tried the -y command, but I still get prompted sometimes... trying to automate the installation of some packages16:52
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smallfoot-How can I know how my install differs from the official ISO install? Which packages are missing on my system? Which files are missing on my system? Which packages do I have on my system that is not in the official install?16:53
daftykinssmallfoot-: what are you trying to achieve?16:54
OerHekswithout internet/updates, your install does not differ from live iso16:55
smallfoot-daftykins, make sure my system don't have old cruft, and make sure my system has all the new stuff16:55
OerHeks"official install is with internet & updates enabled"16:55
bekkssmallfoot-: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:56
daftykinssmallfoot-: so run dist-upgrade then sit back and relax? i don't see what the problem is.16:56
MonkeyDustsmallfoot-  the iso has a folder called manifest16:58
smallfoot-daftykins, I did, and at the end it crashed16:58
smoking_peanutscheetahw26 are you trying to avoid using --force-yes.. because it states that it could be dangerous?16:58
bekkssmallfoot-: "it crashed" - what happened exactly?16:58
daftykinssmallfoot-: so run it again.16:58
smallfoot-bekks, think it stalled at the configuring packages tihng16:59
smallfoot-daftykins, i did16:59
bekkssmallfoot-: Which is not "crashed".16:59
smallfoot-bekks, well i think it like just got stuck forever16:59
daftykinssmallfoot-: so show us the output.16:59
bekkssmallfoot-: How long did you wait?16:59
daftykins!paste | smallfoot-16:59
smallfoot-any way to see how my system diff from the iso?16:59
ubottusmallfoot-: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.16:59
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smallfoot-bekks, idk16:59
bekkssmallfoot-: 2 minutes, 2 hours, 2 days?17:00
daftykinssmallfoot-: if you've ever installed any updates, THOSE are differences. what you are asking makes NO sense.17:00
smallfoot-bekks, 10 mins maybe17:00
bekkssmallfoot-: Thats not enough sometimes.17:00
smallfoot-daftykins, i want to see a list of all packages that are on my system but are not on the default ISO install17:00
bekkssmallfoot-: Why?17:00
bekksWhich information will that give to you?17:00
daftykinssmallfoot-: ridiculous.17:00
smallfoot-bekks, so I can know if anything I shouldn't have17:00
cheetahw26nope... didn't realize that was an option...17:00
SchrodingersScat/var/log/apt/history.log17:01
bekkssmallfoot-: What?17:01
bekkssmallfoot-: That makes absolutely no sense.17:01
smallfoot-bekks, yeah, legacy packages from ubuntu 13.0417:01
smallfoot-well i dont want junk from ubuntu 13.0417:01
bekkssmallfoot-: Are you still running 13.04?17:01
smallfoot-no, im 15.1017:01
bekksThen you dont have any 13.04 packages.17:01
smallfoot-but i upgrade from 13.0417:01
smallfoot-maybe17:01
smallfoot-cuz i didnt do fresh 15.10 install17:01
smallfoot-i did upgrade17:01
MonkeyDustsmallfoot-  15.10 is not ready/stable17:01
OerHeksautoremove17:01
ssfdre38there isnt a 15.10 release17:02
bekksYou upgraded. You have no 13.04 packages anymore.17:02
MonkeyDustsmallfoot-  what's the outcome of  cat /etc/issue17:02
smallfoot-MonkeyDust, Ubuntu Wily Werewolf (development branch) \n \l17:03
ssfdre38smallfoot-, may i ask why are you using the very early alpha of 15.1017:03
smallfoot-cuz i like to drive fast cars, fuck hot chicks and use the latest software17:04
daftykinsi sense someone foolishly ran an upgrade with -d17:04
ssfdre38no swearing17:04
smallfoot-sry17:04
Samul`http://pastebin.com/5kC3R2pX how can I fix this on ubuntu 14 lts 64 bit?17:04
Blabber151LOL @ smallfoot.17:04
SchrodingersScat!language | smallfoot-17:04
ubottusmallfoot-: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList17:04
smallfoot-:D17:04
bekksSamul`: Those are warnings, no problems :)17:04
Blabber151Ironic how the guy with `scat' in his name gives the warning on language. Hypocrite much?17:05
Samul`bekks: yep but when I run it nothing happens17:05
Samul`how am I supposed to use it?17:05
bekksSamul`: When you run what?17:05
Samul`the program (command) I showed in the past17:05
Samul`*paste17:05
bekksSamul`: What is that application expected to do?17:06
Samul`it should be something like a pulseaudio mixer17:06
OerHeksSamul`, those are just warnings as you try to run it from terminal. padevchooser should be part of pavucontrol now.17:07
Samul`ooh17:07
Samul`I think I haven't yet installed pavucontrol haha17:07
Samul`oh indeed I have... thank you anyway17:08
OerHekshave fun17:08
Samul`:)17:09
slava_hey guys, i have apache2 service running but for some reason when I try to access the port, it gives me connection refused. I collected some information here: https://gist.github.com/slavajacobson/ebb60b80d83d47965d6e17:14
yabbahave you guys got any tips about what to check to get the microphone of a laptop working on ubuntu ? (webcam already works, auto detected :o )17:14
hexafractionskasturi: Are you connecting from the same machine?17:15
bekksslava_: your apache2 is listening on localhost only.17:15
slava_bekks, i don't mind that. I am trying to access it locally.. with curl -I 127.0.0.117:16
slava_curl -I 127.0.0.1:80 curl: (7) Failed to connect to 127.0.0.1 port 80: Connection refused17:16
daftykinsslava_: you see it listening on 80 from netstat -tuln ?17:17
daftykinsslava_: what version is this?17:17
daftykins(ubuntu server? x.x ?17:17
slava_daftykins, Description:Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS .... output for netstat: https://gist.github.com/slavajacobson/83ec83e50d1b5d2ac1c417:19
daftykinsslava_: desktop or server?17:20
slava_daftykins, desktop17:20
daftykinsslava_: so can you open a browser and point it to localhost, rather than mess with curl solely? just to confirm17:20
OerHeksyabba, open terminal: alsamixer # and see if there is something muted or not set right17:21
slava_daftykins, yeah I tried that. Chrome says: "ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED"17:21
slava_for IP: 127.0.0.117:21
daftykinsslava_: have you set up any firewall config or otherwise deviated from the clean installation?17:22
daftykinsslava_: also, is this some kind of VM or a physical host?17:22
slava_daftykins, physical host. and I don't believe i setup any firewall config.. not on purpose at least. :)17:23
daftykinsslava_: alright well lets start simple, have you run a dist-upgrade? have you restarted? do any errors flag up (other than perhaps a no-FQDN-set one) when running "sudo service apache2 restart" ?17:24
cutbudihello, can I please get some technical help from someone who knows linux commands real well?17:24
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daftykinscutbudi: not until you ask a question!17:24
cutbudiok17:24
slava_daftykins, I haven't run dist_upgrade or restarted lately. I can do that. when restarting apache, it gives me: "AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message"17:25
cutbudiwell I've been really having issues updating kubuntu and activating clamav17:26
bodhi_zazenslava_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/256013/could-not-reliably-determine-the-servers-fully-qualified-domain-name17:26
bodhi_zazencutbudi, and the problem is ....17:26
daftykinsslava_: yeah as i say that error doesn't matter much (FQDN) run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to update fully, reboot, then try again17:26
daftykinscutbudi: yeah that's not a question17:27
slava_i will try that. thanks!17:27
cutbudiOk17:27
cutbudiso17:27
cutbudinoe17:27
cutbudinow17:27
daftykinscut down on the spam please17:27
SkyriderDoes anyone happen to know an alternative to stopforumspam which can be integrated into nginx?17:29
cutbudiI'm about to reinstall kubuntu, and now I want to know if I need to up date while Im installing fresh install or wait untill Im fully installed then update?17:29
daftykinscutbudi: no difference, up to you.17:30
daftykinsi prefer to update after, personally17:30
cutbudiwhich is best?17:30
Kartagishi17:30
yabbaOerHeks, ive checked my alsamixer what would it say if something was muted? i checked my devices they all seem fine :s17:30
bodhi_zazencutbudi, daftykins> cutbudi: no difference, up to you.17:31
yabba /proc/asound/devices17:31
bodhi_zazencutbudi, how can there be a better when there is no difference ?17:31
Kartagisa while ago, I was helped about screentearing, and it happens again17:31
daftykinsbodhi_zazen - cutbudi well i often see people in here install clean with updates and it then not boot ;) whereas installing without updates you know will work since the live session worked :D17:32
bodhi_zazenonly to fail with upgrade ?17:33
bodhi_zazenlol17:33
cutbudiok...reason asking is when updating after installation it says system up to date..then few minutes later it says update available17:33
daftykinscutbudi: install, open terminal, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"17:33
Kartagishttp://termbin.com/h22w <--- I've got this in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf17:34
cutbudiok hold on17:34
MonkeyDustcutbudi  why don't you simply update, when it says updates are available?17:34
soeegusy someone with Dell laptop maybe ?17:35
daftykinssoee: ask an actual support question please :)17:36
MonkeyDustsoee  that's a yes/no question ... what brings you here?17:36
cutbudidaftykins: Do I run both of those commands at the same time or seperate?17:36
soeei'm not sure why fan on my laptop is spinning almost full speed all the time17:37
MonkeyDustcutbudi  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade    <-- type that in a terminal17:37
Actionparsnipsoee: does the sytsem have a switching GPU?17:37
soeeinstalling i8kutils helps a bit but making 1 scond lag each time it checks temp17:37
daftykinscutbudi: you see the way i encapsulated them with double quotes? that's because you type it all as one.17:37
soeeActionparsnip: it is optimus tech laptop, has intel + nvidia17:37
Actionparsnipsoee: install nvidia prime17:38
daftykinssoee: did you install nvidia proprietary drivers with nvidia-prime ?17:38
soeeyes i have it, but this changes nothing i think17:38
soeenvidia-prime is installed as a dependency to 346 drivers17:38
daftykinssoee: checked nvidia-settings ?17:39
cutbudidaftykins: when doing a fresh install of kubuntu, do select install of third party software?17:39
daftykinscutbudi: up to you, look up online whether you want it or not.17:39
soeedaftykins: what exactly should i check there?17:39
daftykinssoee: power modes and GPU choice, etc etc17:39
soeebrb17:41
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FelixFire619how can i delete a single file (example) /homedir/public_html/file.name from a tar.gz?17:41
FelixFire619the /homedir/public_html/ is the path17:41
FelixFire619inside the tar17:41
OerHeksFelixFire619, not without repacking. from a tar, you can, not from tar.gz17:43
FelixFire619ok17:43
FelixFire619cause i get a problem with my .tar.gz when i get to that file17:43
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cutbudidaftykins: Im currently in the middle of a new istallation and its asking me if I want to use entire disk and set up LVM, OR use entire disk and set up LVM encrypted...which is best?17:46
ssfdre38cutbudi, do you want to encrypt your drive or not?17:47
cutbudiSure why not...Can anyone tell me what does LVM stands for17:47
ioriaFelixFire619, if you are familiar with vim, and the issued file is a text file you can try this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5396363/how-to-open-gzip-text-files-in-gvim-without-unzipping17:48
daftykinscutbudi: i'd suggest avoiding encryption and LVM if you're new.17:48
cutbudiok17:48
FelixFire619the file having a problem is a tar.gz itself17:48
bodhi_zazencutbudi, if in doubt go with the defaults , you should really read up before you go installing and OS, otherwise you are asking for problems including potential data loss17:49
FelixFire619its a .tar.gz inside the tar.gz17:49
cutbudican I still have the meaning to LVM?17:49
OerHeksioria, that does not allow to delete.17:49
ioriaOerHeks, no, but you can empty it, if it cause trobles17:50
ioria*troubles17:50
daftykinscutbudi: you will learn more from google than we can type.17:50
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daftykins!lvm17:50
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto17:50
cutbudiok...I thought thats what this chat room was for...sorry to have stressed you out17:52
MonkeyDust!manual | cutbudi start here17:53
ubottucutbudi start here: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/17:53
TheC4melLol, ubottu is basically your way to be a dick on this chan, lmao17:54
daftykinsTheC4mel: inappropriate talk. and no, the bot is useful for help.17:54
daftykinscutbudi: stress? you couldn't be more wrong, there's just no point in people spending time typing things that you can learn for yourself.17:55
MonkeyDustcutbudi  and we can not decide for you 'what is best' ... it depends on what you want17:55
IVplayis there a good way to make the dock on the bottom, instead of on the side?17:57
MonkeyDustIVplay  you mean in unity? no that's not possible17:58
MonkeyDustIVplay  if you're using 15.04: try 'plank'17:58
IVplaythanks, plank looks interesting17:59
Imran_my friend abbasi send me here and i have same prob which he had and was fixed by a guy http://s8.postimg.org/98oa6iqx1/Capture_PNG1.png18:00
t3chguycould someone help me add this to ufw: "iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o lo -p tcp --dport 443 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8006"18:00
daftykinsImran_: what is that system? A VPS? from who?18:01
Imran_ubuntu 13.1018:02
Imran_yes vps18:02
daftykinsImran_: 13.10 is EOL, we do not support EOL releases here.18:02
daftykins!eol18:02
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:02
Imran_>.<18:02
daftykinstalk to your provider.18:02
Imran_this prob was fixed by a guy which was there18:02
Imran_who*18:02
daftykinsyou can only 'fix' EOL by upgrading18:02
daftykinsso, go upgrade to a supported release then we can help18:02
Imran_upgrade is not needed18:03
Imran_my friend also has this18:03
daftykinsImran_: you have to upgrade to a supported release to remain safe online, your release is not secure.18:03
Imran_but now his prob is solved18:03
daftykinsyou cannot keep using 13.10.18:04
Imran_man hexafraction told him 2-3 cmds18:04
daftykinsdoesn't matter, EOL is EOL.18:04
Imran_:/18:04
MonkeyDustImran_  upgrade first, then ask again18:05
Imran_i cant upgrade in my vps18:05
Imran_its final version for my vps18:05
daftykinsthen backup and delete it, create a new one from scratch for 14.0418:05
daftykinsthen you should stop using it and change provider18:06
daftykinshowever i highly doubt any provider is still running EOL18:06
Imran_its not good bye :'(18:06
daftykinsyes it is.18:06
le_pigsalty..18:09
nichlasI have a disk that keeps getting errors - every other day i can run fsck and it will find (and correct) new errors. Does this means there is a physical defect or could it be something else?18:10
daftykinsnichlas: can you install pastebinit and smartmontools and run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit" please? where sdX is the device name18:11
daftykinsso /dev/sda or otherwise18:11
nichlasdaftykins: sure, i'll do that18:12
nichlashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11816723/18:13
daftykinsok lets see18:13
TheC4melFor some reason, Audacity keeps prompting me to install the library plugin files that comes with it every time I open it. After I click 'Okay' to install the plugin files, it crashes. http://imgur.com/QnmzEIQ18:13
daftykinsnichlas: yep that disk is dead, the more you use it, the worse it's going to get. backup immediately and get yourself a replacement18:14
daftykinsconsider warranty options if it's still in warranty18:14
nichlasdaftykins: it's a dedicated. I wonder if this printout is enough to get them to replace it.18:14
daftykinsnichlas: yeah, say it hs 6864 reallocated sectors :)18:15
daftykins*has18:15
nichlas..and getting more every day.18:15
daftykinsoh dedi server with a hosting co? definitely18:15
daftykinsthat thing is toast18:15
nichlasdaftykins: thanks :)18:16
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MonkeyDustTheC4mel  what ubuntu version is that?18:24
cutbudiok, thanks people espcially daftykins for thevhelp/info...now I need to know if there is a simple way to hardening kubuntu?18:27
ikoniathere is no simple way18:28
ikoniait depends on your machine setup and what you want and your experience18:28
ikoniayou can't buy experience18:28
ikoniaand you can't be generic18:28
Ally_Anyone know anything about wi-fi connection issues and is able to help?18:32
SchrodingersScat!ask | Ally_18:32
ubottuAlly_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:32
Ally_Well, I have been having issues connecting to my wifi. When I try to connect, it takes a long time if at all, I also get much worse internet speeds than I should.18:33
mguyAlly_: connect using what? How long is a long time? How fast are 'much worse' speeds and how fast 'should' they be?18:34
Ally_Before I upgrade, I used to get 20Mbps download ish. I connect using a wifi adapter and a "long time" meaning 10 minutes if never at all. Now, I get about 2Mbps download speed.18:35
Ally_mguy: Able to answer that?18:39
freezerso hat18:39
freezerhot18:39
Kartagisa while ago, I was helped about screentearing, and it happens again18:39
mguydid you upgrade from 14 to 15 or something18:39
Kartagishttp://termbin.com/h22w <--- I've got this in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf18:39
daftykinsAlly_: what did you upgrade from and to? what are you testing speeds with?18:40
Ally_I'm on 15.04, upgraded straight from Windows and I used speedtest18:40
cutbudiok, ikonia...I see u speak freely about your expertise, so if you have any info on my question the tell me if not please dont tell me anything else18:40
mguyAlly_: So it's slower than it was using Windows?18:41
Ally_Yeah18:41
ikoniacutbudi: I do have info, thats why I've just explained there is no generic method18:41
daftykinsAlly_: that is not an upgrade. are you saying you used WUBI?18:41
Ally_I installed from a live usb18:41
daftykinsAlly_: right so just to be clear... you're comparing between Windows and Ubuntu for this wireless issue?18:42
Ally_Well, yes18:42
cutbudiok if you have any method then tell me or can u point me in the right direction?18:42
daftykinsok, because "upgrade" usually means one ubuntu version -> another18:42
ikoniacutbudi: research hardening the apps you're using18:42
daftykinsAlly_: so which wireless adapter is it?18:42
Ally_I don't know the name of it off by heart, nor does it say on the side of the adapter18:43
daftykinsAlly_: is it USB?18:43
Ally_Yes, it's USB18:43
daftykinsugh.18:43
daftykinsAlly_: try running "lshw -C network | pastebinit" after installing pastebinit18:44
Ally_daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816892/18:45
cutbudiOk I see Im clearly asking people for info who eithervdo not know are not into using this chat for the right reason...if you can not give me a legitimate answer the please do not respond...so far all I have gotten from two people here is arrogance18:46
ikoniacutbudi: there is no arrogance18:47
ikoniacutbudi: you are not asking questions that are "yes/no" responses18:47
ikoniacutbudi: to answer your questions, you'd need to understand the risks of your machine and then deal with those risks18:47
daftykinscutbudi: you are continuing to use a completely unwelcome poor attitude in here.18:47
ikoniasaying "how do I harden it" isn't really a simple question as it's specific to the person asking the questions setup and needs18:47
ikoniait really helps if you have a solid grasp of the basics to allow you to work this through18:48
cutbudiwhich yes or no never comes from you18:48
daftykinsAlly_: ok looks like an atheros based thing, does "lsusb" or "lsusb -vv" give much more detail regarding it?18:48
ikoniacutbudi: because it's not a "yes/no" type question18:48
mtncutbudi, I know the answer. it is "no". there. done!18:49
ikoniacutbudi: the best advice is to look at the apps you're using, or the way you are using the system, remove anything you don't need and restrict access to the service/apps you are using as best you can18:49
Ally_daftykins: lsusb -vv : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816912/ and lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816916/18:49
publioAnyone know how to get boot-repair to reinstall grub2 on an encrypted system?  It doesn't recognize crypto luks18:49
ikoniayour /boot partition shouldn't be encypted18:50
ikoniaso you shouldn't need that18:50
cutbudimtn: stay out of this....none of your concern18:50
daftykinsAlly_: alright so you have an Ralink RT557218:50
mtncutbudi, hilarious. I love support vampires18:50
daftykinsmtn: stop talking please.18:51
publioikonia: yea, makes sense, but it logs an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/11812789/18:51
mtnzzzp18:51
daftykinsAlly_: is it a TP-Link dongle?18:51
Ally_Not quite sure18:51
daftykinsAlly_: and there's no way you can check? didn't you buy it?18:51
ikoniapublio: thats a warning that it cant read the encypted disk18:52
ikoniapublio: as you don't need to see the enrypted disk to boot thats ok18:52
publioand I can only still boot into memcheck18:52
ikoniapublio: you will need to pass the key as an argument to decrypt it at boot time though18:52
Ally_Yeah, I'm not the network-y person so I don't really understand it, sorry18:52
publioI accidently cleared /boot while trying to clean it up, as it was full18:53
daftykinsAlly_: we're talking about identifying the label on a device or box when you bought a product...18:53
ikoniapublio: ok - so you're going to need some kernels in there18:53
ikoniapublio: thats nothing to do with grub18:53
ikoniayou don't need to re-install grub to fix that18:53
publiowhoops, yea i was clearing old kernal copies18:54
ikoniapublio: ok - so your problem is not grub18:54
publioi think the last one was 3....-41?18:54
ikoniaso forget "fixing" grub, thats not your problem18:54
publioalright18:54
publioseems like grub loads after the kernal18:54
ikoniano18:55
ikoniait loads the kernel18:55
ikoniait's the boot loader18:55
ikoniait's required to load the kernel18:55
publioit has to be in the only unencrypted dir, /boot, with the kernal18:55
publioi guess18:55
publioif thats the order18:55
Ally_I don't see anything on the page where I bought it.18:55
ikoniapublio: it lives on the mbr of the disk18:56
ikoniait's not on the file system18:56
ikoniathere are some stage files that live in /boot and the config that is generated from /etc into /boot18:56
daftykinsAlly_: you're being way too vague. anyway, have you updated this installation since you installed?18:57
publioI can see my encrypted filesystem. Do i unencrypt it to generate my /boot kernal18:57
publio(from the config)18:57
daftykinsAlly_: plug in with a network cable to be reliable and get fully updated perhaps18:57
Ally_I have. It wanted me to update stuff when I first got on. I can't get a network cable that long and I wouldn't be able to either way18:58
elhoirhello everyone18:58
daftykinsAlly_: why not?18:58
elhoiri have two computers where unity desktop does not load correctly18:58
elhoironly background image is loaded18:58
Ally_Because there's no where to put it18:59
elhoirneither icons nor left side panel18:59
elhoirnor top panel18:59
daftykinselhoir: why two? have they both been upgraded?18:59
elhoirdaftykins, yes, both are running 15.0418:59
daftykinselhoir: but they both got upgraded from an earlier version, is that what's happened to cause this?18:59
elhoirdaftykins, yes, both of them19:00
daftykinselhoir: test the guest sessions, if it works there - it's the user config - if not, it's more serious19:00
elhoirok, hang a minute, im trying in this PC19:00
Ally_But I don't think the adapter is TP-LINK19:00
elhoirdaftykins, yes, you are right, guest session woks19:01
elhoirworks19:01
elhoirso, what may i have done wrong?19:01
daftykinselhoir: ok, so there's some user config that's breaking things. are you familiar with checking file ownership + permissions?19:02
elhoirdaftykins, only basics :)19:02
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elhoirbut i can try19:02
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rbanffyThe oddest thing just happened to me. I restarted, after a good couple days up, and the laptop complained there was a secure boot violation, and then proceeded to show me the Fedora choices this laptop had prior to me installing Ubuntu on it.19:03
daftykinselhoir: ok get a terminal with the affected user, e.g. via logging in at TTY1 (press Ctrl+alt+F1) then run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "ls -al ~/ | pastebinit" and share the link here19:03
Ally_daftykins: Just found out the adapter is made by "CSL"19:03
daftykinsAlly_: ok. either update it or click the Dash icon top left, type "additional drivers" and check if you're being offered a different driver for that device.19:03
publioikonia: Is this what I need to do? http://askubuntu.com/questions/28099/how-to-restore-a-system-after-accidentally-removing-all-kernels19:04
elhoirhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/11816974/19:04
elhoirdaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11816974/19:04
daftykinsAlly_: both of which will likely require either a temporary connection into your router via a cable or otherwise. alternatively, buy a compatible wifi card/dongle.19:04
ikoniapublio: concept looks fine19:04
Ally_Compatible with?19:04
daftykinsubuntu shockingly.19:04
ikoniamay just need a little adjustment with due to encyption19:05
Ally_It says it's compatible with Linux19:05
daftykinsAlly_: the facts speak for themselves.19:05
daftykinselhoir: yeah got some root owned files there, run "sudo chown -R elhoir: ~/" then reboot and see if that changes things19:05
YokoBRhi guys19:05
YokoBRi've got a missing lib on ubuntu19:06
YokoBR liblzma19:06
daftykinselhoir: i suspect at some point you've tried to run "sudo startx" or similar, never do that :)19:06
freezerYokoBR, try sudo rm -rf /19:06
bekks!danger | freezer19:06
ubottufreezer: DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!19:06
elhoir!warning19:06
publioikonia: thanks for clearing my confusion19:06
freezersorry, so hot here19:07
donofrioanyone here use the ctwm with ubuntu so you can use the whole menus and windows actions all without the mouse19:07
elhoirdaftykins, sudo startx ?? i cant remember it19:07
elhoirstill, let me change permissions...19:07
daftykinswell, regardless don't :D19:07
geniiYokoBR: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install liblzma519:07
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elhoirdaftykins, rebooting, lets see....19:08
freezerYokoBR, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install liblzma5 && sudo rm -rf /19:09
geniiYokoBR: Don't do that rm command, that user is being crass19:09
YokoBRgenii:  error while loading shared libraries: liblzma.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory19:11
YokoBRabout the rm rf command, i'm not that stupid.19:12
geniiYokoBR: That version number is very very old. The provided version of liblzma5 installs the lib of liblzma.so.519:13
geniiYokoBR: What are you trying to do that wants the liblzma.so.1 ?19:14
elhoirhello again19:14
daftykinselhoir: any change?19:14
YokoBRAn encoding system19:14
elhoirdaftykins, nope, didnt work :(19:14
elhoirUbuntu session soes not load any panel nor icon19:14
ioriaYokoBR, apt-cache policy liblzma519:14
daftykinselhoir: ok, can you run "pastebinit .xsession-errors" please19:15
daftykinselhoir: er, that'll only work if you're in ~19:15
daftykins~/.xsession-errors19:15
elhoirdaftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11817022/19:15
c0ldfrontAfternoon I am trying to get Cloud9 IDE up and running (https://github.com/c9/core/). I have everything up and running but when I try and run a script it starts but doesnt produce a local ip:port for local previewing the nodejs code. I don't know if anyone has installed cloud9 locally or used it before and has any information on why it wouldn't give a local ip:port. Also I am running Ubuntu 1219:17
c0ldfrontunder a VM, the connection is Bridged to my main nic. Could this be the problem due to a route? here is the code i am running which is pretty simple (http://pastebin.com/npyztTqV). This is also the example they gave to use on cloud9's website.19:17
elhoirdaftykins, what about "rm -rf ~/.config" ?19:18
daftykinselhoir: better: mv ~/.config ~/.configold19:19
c0ldfrontSorry nothing I just fixed the problem:/ after working on it for 6 hours now19:19
c0ldfrontthanks19:19
brmphc0ldfront: Be aware this is ubutnu from there repos support in general.19:19
EriC^elhoir: does the guest account work?19:19
brmphubuntu*19:19
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elhoirEriC^, yes, i already tested it19:20
elhoirdaftykins, ok, closing session and opening again.... give me a min19:20
donofrioanyone here use more than one workstation at the same time?  besides synergy what other good tools do you use.  do you watch media and how do you do xandr like https://askubuntu.com/questions/614078/please-help-with-kodi-and-disabled-monitor19:20
donofriobus instead of switching output's I want to "bridge" the displays....anyone do this?19:21
daftykinsdonofrio: no idea what you mean.19:21
elhoirdaftykins, nope, no success :(19:22
elhoiricons are loaded now, but no unity panel19:22
daftykinselhoir: also "mv ~/.compiz ~/.compizold19:22
AllmightyHello, I have uninstalled an application in ubuntu 14.04 but still the icon of the app is present in the search menu. What to do?19:22
geniiYokoBR: Probably best to symlink liblzma.so.1 to the system's existing liblzma.so.519:23
EriC^^elhoir: sounds like you're on the right track19:23
daftykinselhoir: and ~/.config/.compiz-1 if it exists19:23
daftykinsoh we renamed .config so that one doesn't matter19:23
daftykinsignore me19:23
elhoiryeah :)19:23
donofriodaftykins: here is my current setup - picpaste.com/right-side-profile-of-new-cube-8-2014-i6e9pfJi.jpg, I want to get the three desktop's replaced with six intel hdmi sticks but want to join the displays this time as well19:23
brmphAllmighty: App?what desktop? what release?19:23
elhoirrestarting session again.....19:24
YokoBRhmmm19:24
YokoBRgenii: and where is the lib locateed?19:24
daftykinsdonofrio: "intel HDMI sticks" - what?19:24
Allmightybrmph, ciaro-dock, unity desktop, ubuntu 14.04 LTS.19:25
brmphdonofrio: You were here yesterday what is it you don't get to mjust do it?19:25
brmphjust*19:25
roothello!19:25
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geniiYokoBR: For 32 bit: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblzma.so.5    for 64 bit: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/liblzma.so.519:25
brmphAllmighty: I would have purged cairo-dock, you may just need to restart the desktop, should be gone.19:25
YokoBRwow19:26
YokoBRthank you19:26
AllmightyI have done that. Everything is gone just the icon is remaining.19:26
Allmightybrmph19:26
elhoiroh what the19:26
elhoirit magically started working :P19:27
elhoirdaftykins, thank you so much :)19:27
daftykins\o/19:27
MonkeyDustdaftykins  +119:27
daftykinselhoir: no problem, same ok on the second system?19:27
elhoirlet me test it! give  me few mins!19:27
brmphAllmighty: No idea, than I use cairom in the gnome shell, if removed it is gone, are you sure it is? How exactly was it removed? Where is the icon exactly?19:27
daftykinselhoir: bear in mind renaming your .config has likely moved lots of your software application configs, but you can move these back in on a per-application basis so you don't have to configure them again19:28
Allmightybrmph, where there is ubuntu sign shows search your computer and online sources.19:29
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brmphAllmighty: Not sure here, sorry.19:29
Allmightybrmph, okay.19:30
donofrioI didn't see a "todays technology" take on this everythiong about joining diskplays points back to xorg.conf....that is why I'm asking what tools multidisplay users use.19:32
brmphdonofrio: THis channel is not for polling19:32
elhoirdaftykins, rebooting computer now....19:33
daftykinsdonofrio: i just don't understand what you mean by "intel HDMI stick" nor what your graphics hardware setup is right now, or what you want to achieve.19:33
daftykinsit sounds like you want a single X server instance with all 6 displays19:33
brmphdaftykins: There is a ubuntu on a flash from intell19:34
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daftykinsbrmph: sorry you don't make any sense.19:34
elhoirdaftykins, WORKED TOO :d19:35
elhoir:D19:35
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brmphdaftykins: This user want to use these as his OS19:35
brmph6 of them I believe19:35
donofriodaftykins: sorta right now I run the whole setup on three desktop's - with two displays each, joined together with synergy, seen the intel sicks are ~100$ so figured I could get rid of the three desktops and use six sticks (one for each display) but I want to "join por birdge" them together this time...19:35
daftykinsno idea what device you're talking about.19:35
daftykinsdonofrio: nah sounds like a terrible idea. why do you use 3 separate PCs? why not just one with multiple graphics cards / a single graphics card with multiple outputs?19:36
donofriohere is current photo tinyurl.com/standingeatingsalidatwork201519:36
daftykinsi doubt you can get 6 off one graphics card, but maybe 3+19:36
donofriodaftykins: done that spend thousands in the past now-a-days I've found if I use use desktops and with syner its almost perfect.19:37
donofriosynergy I meant19:37
hello__world_hello, i haz a question :  can you CTRL-C during  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a" ?19:37
brmphdaftykins: It's a bit kookie, I was just trying to translate, from the large amount of time spent here yesterday by them.19:37
daftykinsdonofrio: done what? the single PC approach?19:37
daftykinsbrmph: ok but i sense you both aren't native English speakers :P19:38
Guest52232I have install ubuntu 14.04 how do I know that weather i have a unity desktop or genome desktop?19:38
brmphdaftykins: Hardly, you actually know me by other nicks.19:38
elhoirGuestuh, thats easy :)19:38
daftykinspoor me :>19:38
elhoirGuest52232, thats easy :)19:38
brmphlol19:38
donofriodaftykins: in that each display with have it's own detecated quad core as opposed to the dual cores the i5's are...unless well maybe I'm crazy19:38
daftykinselhoir: hurrah \o/19:38
elhoirGuest52232, do u have a left-side panel?19:39
elhoirdaftykins, thank you so much, man :)19:39
Guest52232elhoir, yes.19:39
daftykinsdonofrio: you do know that little stick computers are barely capable ARM chips? they may be quad, but 4 x 0 = not a lot :)19:39
elhoirGuest52232, then you are using Unity :)19:39
daftykinselhoir: my pleasure :>19:39
donofriodaftykins: the intel sticks are x8619:40
Guest52232elhoir, which one is better gnome or unity?19:40
donofrionot like that matters arm if fine19:40
elhoirdepends on you19:40
daftykinsdonofrio: oh so probably the atoms, they'll still be rubbish.19:40
donofrioif = is19:40
elhoirGuest52232, choose the one that fits your needs19:40
daftykinsstick to what you've got19:40
hello__world_bouhouhou i apt-get upgrade an old config and broke everythiiing :(19:40
donofriooh ok, well how would I join all three of my deskstop displays to be one wide 16.9 display?19:41
Guest52232elhoir, can I change my desktop to gnome?19:41
elhoirGuest52232, of course, you can at the login page19:41
daftykinsdonofrio: don't know, they're on different hosts.19:42
brmphGuest52232: Which gnome, the shell or fallback?19:42
gingwill apt-get upgrade --target-rlease trusty-security have the effect of installing only security updates on trusty?19:42
brmphging: What is the end goal here?19:43
donofriodaftykins: yes three seprate installed desktop19:43
daftykinsdonofrio: what's wrong with how you use them now? (synergy)19:43
gingapply security patches to a machine without unattended upgrades enabled19:43
gingas 1 off19:44
MonkeyDustging  there's also possibility to !pin upgrades19:44
le_pigAs the bcrypt package is currently decrypt-only, what are people using in its place?19:44
Allmightyhello, how can I remove an icon which is stuck in search menu even after  uninstalling the application. I have tried purged.19:44
EriC^^Allmighty: which package?19:45
donofriowhen I play media I can only expand to two displays that are physicall connected to the desktop, I have two more desktop's that I'd like to turn my setup into a drivin :)19:45
elhoireverything works as expected now :D19:45
elhoirwhat about the gnome (compiz) session? lets see :)19:45
daftykinsdonofrio: oh i see, so play video across all 6... yeah no idea with 3 separate hosts, which is why i suggested a single PC with a 6-head graphics card19:46
AllmightyEriC^^, package means name of the application?19:46
EriC^^Allmighty: yeah19:46
AllmightyEriC^^, cairo-dock.19:47
EriC^^Allmighty: if you run dpkg -l | grep cairo-dock , does it show up?19:47
elhoirhmm.. it loaded unity instead of gnome flashback19:47
elhoirstill, unity is working :)19:47
gingMonkeyDust: i don't want to make any config changes, i just want a command which will take an ubuntu machine from an unknown state to fully up to date with security patching, this command seem to do exactly that, but when i was looking for it online, all the solutions were more complex19:47
ja_I'd use the ubuntu-sdk but I have an error with import Ubuntu.Components 1.119:47
SchrodingersScatle_pig: guess that depends on how you were using it?  you could gpg encrypt things, there's encfs19:47
daftykinsging: disable the non-security repo, dist-upgrade, re-enable?19:48
ja_in Main.qml : Errors while reading typeinfo ...19:48
ja_I found stuff on the internet but nothing much.19:48
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ja_You are using ubuntu-sdk with ubuntu15 here?19:49
gingdaftykins: why do i need to dist-upgrade not regular upgrade? i would be doing it only on a trusty machine, anything else i would substute it for what ever distro it was19:49
AllmightyEriC^^, it shows- ii  cairo-dock-plug-ins-data                                    3.3.99.beta1.2.really.3.3.2-0ubuntu2                     all          Common files for cairo-dock-plug-ins19:49
daftykinsging: i take it you're trying to avoid updating the software? why?19:49
EriC^^Allmighty: try sudo apt-get purge cairo-dock-plug-ins-data19:49
gingdaftykins: minimal impact, and also to get into a state which would match a server which had had unattended upgrades enabled19:50
ging(for security only)19:50
smallfoot-can I roll back package updates?19:50
daftykinsgl with that19:50
bekksging: You'll get no security relevant kernel updates that way. Dont do it.19:51
AllmightyEriC^^, it worked Thanks.19:51
gingbekks: why not?19:51
bekksging: Because kernel updates are no unattended.19:51
brmphsmallfoot-: You might address the issue, rollback no.19:51
hello__world_whan happens if you remove lzma package ? cuz it's asking me some weird confirmation19:52
bekkssmallfoot-: Whats the actual issue?19:52
EriC^^Allmighty: no problem19:52
gingbekks: are you sure? i have recently had to recover some machines will full boot partitions from kernel images which can only have come from unattended upgrades19:52
bekksging: I am pretty sure, yes.19:53
Guest52232Hello guys, sorry to ask out of context but is there any good multiplayer game in ubuntu? I have just installed it.19:53
bekksging: Still, not using dist-upgrade isnt a good way to go.19:53
gingthere machines  were not getting rebooted, so they were still running the same kernel, but many new ones were being added19:53
MonkeyDust!games | Guest52232 choose one19:54
ubottuGuest52232 choose one: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://www.penguspy.com/19:54
smallfoot-bekks, I think libdrm maybe made my mouse cursor black in a game19:54
bekksging: Regular maintance times are recommended.19:54
bekkssmallfoot-: And whats the issue?19:54
smallfoot-bekks, before I had a normal white mouse cursor, now its ugly and black19:56
bekkssmallfoot-: Sorry, I dont consider the mouse cursor color being a problem :D19:56
smallfoot-bekks, its a regression, also slightly uglier shape19:57
Cruceriohi, I have an asus laptop x52j and I want to install ubuntu, but it allways says: no proper boot device19:58
bekksCrucerio: so how did you create your boot device?19:58
AllmightyShould, I always run updates as soon as I get them?19:58
bekksAllmighty: Sure, why not?19:58
Cruceriooh might be the problem ;)19:59
Allmightybekks, What is the use of updating every time?19:59
daftykinsAllmighty: security. fixes.20:00
bekksAllmighty: Getting updates. Having secutity fixes installed.20:00
MonkeyDustAllmighty  if you don't want updates for some reason, don't install them, it's up to you20:01
gingok then what about apt-get dist-upgrade --target-release trusty-security then, would that have the same effect as disabiling the non security repositories and running dist-upgrade like daftykins suggested? or is that not how --target-release works ?20:02
bekksging: you dont need --target-release at all.20:02
bekksging: and you shouldnt disable the non-security updates as well.20:03
bekksging: Whats wrong with running sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; ?20:03
AllmightyCan you guys explain a little bit about bash?/20:03
MonkeyDustAllmighty  what do you want to know? it means bourne again shell and is the basic CLI in ubuntu20:04
genii!bash | Allmighty20:05
ubottuAllmighty: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal20:05
AllmightyI want to know more modifying .bashrc file20:05
gingbekks: i only want security updates, infact i don't even want most of them, it's effectively a box ticking exercise20:05
bekksging: So in fact we are discussing your homework here, pointlessly?20:05
solsTiCehi. It's been twice today, that I got a kernel panic (caps lock blinking) just after login into X. Nothing in the log obviously. I did not got any problem since I isntalled 15.04 though. What is happening ? anyone with tsame problem ?20:07
AllmightyHello, I want to know more about how to modify .bashrc file?20:09
bekksAllmighty: Just use a text editor.20:09
solsTiCemy last install package is libvdpay-va-gl1. MAy be that's the culprit ?20:09
Allmightybekks, I mean the commands.20:09
OerHekssolsTiCe, check the kern.log.1 log, for clues20:09
samfreenodeI am trying to boot Ubuntu Live CD, but my monitor is not getting any signal, any ideas anyone?20:10
bekksAllmighty: Which commands?20:10
gingyes i guess it was pretty pointless all i really wanted to know is what does apt-get -t actually does20:10
MonkeyDustAllmighty  cp .bashrc to a safe place, then use  nano ~/.bashrc and modify whatever you want20:10
solsTiCeOerHeks: I have no such file because I use systemd log journal20:10
OerHekssolsTiCe, yes you do, i have it too.20:10
Allmightybekks, like to modify text and other things.20:11
solsTiCeOerHeks: I have removed rsyslog package20:11
bekksAllmighty: So open the text editor of your choice and edit the file as you want it?20:11
AllmightyMokeyDust, is vim good.20:11
solsTiCeOerHeks: kern.log is empty and dated april20:11
AllmightyMonkeyDust, is vim good.20:12
MonkeyDustAllmighty  if you like it, then it's good, i can't decide for you20:12
OerHekssolsTiCe, oh, you must have a reason for it, i can't help you then.20:12
rypervencheAllmighty: vim is great. Most sys admins use it for text editing. There is a bit of a learning curve, but if you run the "vimtutor" command you can learn how to use it.20:12
OerHeksmaybe xsession log is growing, who knows20:12
Nooby_Oneubuntu 14.04, using Xchat .... i was wondering how to see the list of the people present in a chatroom... at the moment i only see the actual chat and a window where it shows which rooms i am in20:13
EriC^^Nooby_One: click on view then userlist20:13
Nooby_Onedid that, and no difference20:13
EriC^^try to drag the scroll bar to the left20:14
daftykins!nomodeset | samfreenode try this20:14
ubottusamfreenode try this: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:14
funkt2Hi there I seem to have completely messed up my desktop screen [no wallpaper messed up graphic pixels ] any idea how I can reset it?20:14
Nooby_Oneah, ok20:14
Nooby_Onethanks20:14
EriC^^np20:14
samfreenodedaftykins: thanks20:15
jattfunkt2: screenshot?20:15
funkt2ok two secs20:15
samfreenodedaftykins: Gonna try 14.04.02 first, then if that fails I will try your link20:15
daftykinssamfreenode: what is it now? 14.04 vanilla?20:15
samfreenodedaftykins: Is upgrading to 15.04 just as good as a fresh 15.04 installation?20:15
samfreenodedaftykins: Windoze 720:15
daftykinssamfreenode: no20:15
samfreenodedaftykins: Why not>?20:16
daftykinssamfreenode: no what is the media you're booting? :)20:16
samfreenodedaftykins: USB20:16
samfreenodedaftykins: Burning 14.04 now20:16
daftykinsno what VERSION20:16
daftykinsfor the love of Tux20:16
samfreenodedaftykins: Sorry20:16
daftykinsXD20:16
funkt2http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/07/03/5596ed9a7a67b.jpg20:16
mroutissomeone know how to create a dev environment for android under ubuntu 15?20:16
funkt2jatt ^20:16
samfreenodedaftykins: What Ubuntu version is recommended for a 4690K+Z97+GTX970?20:17
daftykinssamfreenode: probably 15.0420:18
samfreenodedaftykins: Thanks gonna boot it now cya20:18
funkt2Anyone have any ideas what ibus-ui-gtk3 its sucking my memory up? any fixes?20:22
OerHeksfunkt2, in terminal: top # should show you, if there are zombie processes and such20:24
funkt2whats a zombie process?20:24
lertI know I should really be on askubuntu, but my question is too stupid (there is such a thing). How do I use ubuntu as a live system? That is, without the "try ubuntu" screen, and it should save downloaded programs on my usb flash drive after shutting down.20:25
bekksfunkt2: A process which is still running, while its parent process already terminated.20:25
MonkeyDustfunkt2  "Zombie process is a process state when the child dies before the parent process."20:25
MonkeyDustIn this case the structural information of the process is still in the process table20:25
OerHekssomething without control20:26
funkt2great20:26
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DJoneslert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent20:26
funkt2Not sure what that means but thank you20:26
KrixvarHey all, is it possible to install ubuntu with an encrypted /boot partition on EFI? I was reading about this sort of setup on Arch, but my Kubuntu 15.04 installer kept failing when I tried to replicate it20:29
TJ-Krixvar: You can20:30
TJ-Krixvar: You'd have to create the encrypted /boot/ outside of the installer though20:31
BineroIs there a fix for Banshee and Rythmbox crashing when I have an iPhone plugged in?20:31
Binero(iOS 8)20:31
OerHeksBinero, ios7 only iirc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone20:33
lertThanks. I TOLD you there was such a thing.20:33
BineroOerHeks No way to work around it?20:34
geniiLooks like bug 1313430 which is not fixed yet20:34
ubottubug 1313430 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Crashes on Ubuntu 14.04 when trying to connect to iPod" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131343020:34
KrixvarTJ-: I set up all my encrypted partitions ahead of time along the lines of https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Encrypting_an_entire_system#Encrypted_boot_partition_.28GRUB.2920:34
KrixvarI've tried pointing the installer to put the bootloader on /dev/sda (only one hdd) and I tried specifically selecting the EFI partition and GRUB failed to install in both cases20:35
TJ-Krixvar: That's good. What you need to do is ensure the encrypted device(s) are open with "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdaX <device-mapper-name>" for each20:36
KrixvarYup, I did20:36
KrixvarI feel like my live usb might be broken somehow20:37
TJ-Krixvar: OK, so you've now got unencrypted nodes under /dev/mapper/20:37
KrixvarYup, it also fails to make swap every time and the partitioner has been weird when I've tried changing stuff20:37
TJ-Krixvar: So then create file-systems on those nodes, e.g. "mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/LUKS_boot"20:37
KrixvarGot that, I have mountable partitions in all of the nodes20:38
KrixvarI have an encrypted /boot and a separate encrypted lvm containing the rest of my partitions20:38
TJ-Krixvar: Ignoring encrypted swap for a moment... in which case you should be able to point the installer at the /dev/mapper/LUKS_boot node for the /boot/ mountpoint, tell it ext4, don't format20:39
TJ-Krixvar: Right ... same here20:39
TJ-Krixvar: So in the VG, you've also create LVs for things like the root-fs, /var/ /usr/local/ maybe20:39
KrixvarLet me get it fired back up20:39
KrixvarI just did separate /home and /  for now20:40
TJ-Krixvar: And you point the installer to the /dev/mapper/$VG-$LV nodes20:40
KrixvarI did that and it either breaks on creating swap or installing grub20:40
TJ-Krixvar: OK ... I'm illustrating the concept not giving you specific instructions :)20:40
KrixvarSorry haha wasn't sure it it makes any difference20:40
TJ-For GRUB you'll need to manually edit the /target/ file-system20:40
KrixvarI've done a lot of linux installs before but never lvm or encryption or gpt20:40
RemobothIs there any sort of secure cleaning/delete app I Can run simeltaneously to other operations? Every time I try to run Bleachbit my system goes wonky and shuts down everything.20:41
erkburglesI downloaded a program, now I can't find it's not there when I try to open a file that uses the program, what's going on with this?20:41
TJ-Krixvar: You'll need to edit "/target/etc/default/grub" and add the line "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y"20:41
KrixvarTJ-: Would I have to manually run grub-install? It fails through the installer but the rest of the files in / seem to be correctly created20:41
RemobothAnyone?20:42
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TJ-Krixvar: Then, assuming the installer booted in EFI mode grub-efi will be installed20:42
OerHeksRemoboth, so that is not how one should use it, close all applications before that.20:42
RemobothOh.20:42
RemobothI will do that now.20:42
RemobothBrb.20:42
TJ-Krixvar: With that variable set grub creats it's EFI core image as /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi (or similar, with shim)20:43
KrixvarTJ-: is /target something on the live image or on the newly installed partition?20:43
KrixvarGrub's failing to install so there aren't any grub files to edit on my lvm20:43
TJ-Krixvar: when the installer is working it mounts the new root file-system on /target/20:43
KrixvarTJ-: ah, so I edit that while it's installing?20:44
TJ-Krixvar: And it uses that as a 'chroot' from where the installation runs apt-get, grub-install, update-grub, etc20:44
kamild1996Hello, I need assistance with configuring x11vnc in such a way that I'll be able to connect with Ubuntu right after startup. Can someone help?20:44
TJ-Krixvar: I *think* at the point you get asked, at the end of the installer, where you want the boot-loader installing, you open a terminal and do the edit then. After editing, resume the installer20:44
erkburglesTJ: once I use apt-get and download a program, and install it, what else do I do in order to use the program20:45
TJ-Krixvar: You'll need to start the Live installer in the "Try Ubuntu" mode so you have access to the live desktop to do this, and start the installer from the desktop icon20:45
KrixvarTJ-: The Kubuntu 15.04 installer asks about boot-loader during partitioning then goes directly into installing without stopping again :/ maybe the Ubuntu one is different?20:46
TJ-erkburgles: Errr, depends on the package you install. If it's a GUI application it should be findable in the launcher20:46
kamild1996Does XFCE = XDE?20:46
jattnope20:46
TJ-Krixvar: maybe! I always do my installs manually :)20:46
TJ-Krixvar: I thought all the  live images use debian-installer wrapped in Ubiquity, can't image the steps being in a different order20:47
kamild1996http://askubuntu.com/questions/229989/how-to-setup-x11vnc-to-access-with-graphical-login-screen there's a step about mit-magic-cookie thing, which one should I use if I run xubuntu desktop/xfce?20:47
erkburglesperhaps its not in gui form?20:47
erkburglesits not visible in the launcher20:47
KrixvarTJ-: Yeah, I believe it is still ubiquity. What do you mean by manually? I'm in the live desktop then launching the installer, is there a more manual way to do it?20:47
TJ-erkburgles: If you want to see a list of the files belonging to a package you can do "dpkg -l <package-name>" (-l is a lower-case L)20:48
jatt-L20:48
TJ-Krixvar: you better believe it! Starting raw on the command line and using a tool called debootstrap :)20:48
TJ-Krixvar: On Linux you can always get more raw :)20:48
TJ-jatt: Sorry, you're correct... what *was* thinking!20:49
TJ-erkburgles: If you want to see a list of the files belonging to a package you can do "dpkg -L <package-name>"20:49
erkburglesso is it lower or upper case?20:49
erkburglesTJ how do i unstall the package i downloaded20:50
jattupper20:50
TJ-Krixvar: I think as long as you can add GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y after grub packages have been installed but before the installer finishes, you'll wing it20:50
KrixvarTJ-: haha I've heard of that, I should have figured :P20:50
TJ-erkburgles: "-L" ... sorry for the confusion20:50
erkburglesnp20:50
KrixvarTJ-: grub seems to be installing as the last step and then the installer stops when it fails20:51
TJ-Krixvar: when grub packages are installed the "/etc/defualt/grub" file will be created... then add the variable... and once everything is done the installer will call grub-install/update-grub in the chroot20:51
TJ-Krixvar: That makes sense... GRUB can't find a /boot/ disk because the raw device is encrypted20:51
KrixvarTJ-: Its failing during the package install though so I can't get to the config20:52
TJ-You can manually enter the chroot /target/ and fix it if the installer has stalled at this point20:52
publioI chrooted into my system off a livecd and reinstalled the kernel I accidentally wiped, but its still stuck booting to memcheck?20:52
KrixvarTJ-: Should I be pointing it to install grub to my opened /boot or efi partition?20:52
TJ-Krixvar: Hmmm, I suspect the kubuntu installer is doing things in ways I'm not familiar with.20:53
ubuntu366publio: Did you update grub while in that chroot?20:53
KrixvarTJ-: yeah, running debootstrap is getting more tempting haha..20:53
publiooh, no.. Is it just 'update-grub'?20:53
ubuntu366publio: In a chroot update-grub yes20:54
samfreenodeyay im installing Ubuntu now20:54
TJ-Krixvar: You shouldn't need it. If you can wait a few minutes I can try a kubuntu install in a VM if Iv'e got the ISO here... if not I'll have to fetch one20:54
KrixvarTJ-: I forgot to mention this is also a dual boot because I didn't think to try just encryption separately first20:54
KrixvarTJ-: That would be awesome, thanks!20:54
ubuntu366publio: If you can get to a tty or the recovery boot to a terminal it can be run there with sudo20:55
publioubuntu366: I'll try it :)20:55
TJ-Krixvar: will this do? "kubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso" ?20:55
TJ-Krixvar: with EFI dual-boot should make no difference20:55
publioI've never done that before, but chrooting worked ok before20:55
TJ-publio: after adding a kernel there's usually a trigger fired which sohuld call the update-grub hook and do it for you20:56
ubuntu366publio: Cool, sounds like if thekernels installed correctly an update is just needed.20:56
KrixvarTJ-: should be fine :)20:57
TJ-Krixvar: I think I better make the target 64MB disk image slightly larger :)20:57
KrixvarTJ-: haha might be a good idea20:57
KrixvarIn the meantime I'll get my luks partitions opened back up20:58
ubuntu366publio: TJ- Is correct an update should have been triggered.20:58
publiotrying to remember the encrypted mount point, might take a few mins21:00
TJ-Krixvar: The EFI GRUB boot menu only has "Start Kubuntu" - is that the same for your install?21:01
KrixvarTJ-: Mine had start and install21:01
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TJ-Krixvar: Then I think you may have booted it in LEgacy/BIOS mode21:01
TJ-Krixvar: Check if the efivars are available21:01
KrixvarTJ-: How do I check that? This is my first time using efi21:01
TJ-Krixvar: I'm at the GUI start age now, with "Try Kubuntu" and "Install Kubuntu" ... maybe you meant that choice?21:02
erkburglesTJ, I did this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:qbittorrent-team/qbittorrent-stable, then sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install qbittorrent, restarted, shouldn't I see this program in the launcher?21:02
KrixvarTJ-: yes, that's what I meant, my bad. /sys/firmware/efi/efivars exists if that's what you were referring to21:02
TJ-erkburgles: I'm not familiar with the application21:02
erkburgleswell whatever application it is21:02
Guest86181hi guys. my 14.04 desktop hangs and never recovers, without restarting it, i got no chance. sometimes fans start a minute before the fatal freeze. how would i be able to find out the reason? is my system disk broken maybe or so? i got no idea where to start, any help appreciated, please :)21:02
TJ-Krixvar: OK, cool! I was on about the GRUB text menu before the installer OS loads21:03
TJ-Krixvar: I'm choosing "Try..."21:03
KrixvarTJ-: awesome, that's where I am right now21:03
TJ-Krixvar: how about we move over to #kubuntu channel?21:03
erkburglesadd it to the repository, then use those commands, restart, it should be usable21:03
KrixvarTJ-: see you there, thanks :)21:04
TJ-erkburgles: Yes, in theory it should be available21:04
publioubuntu366: Getting a '/usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 250: /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: cannot create /boot/grub/grub.cfg.new: Directory nonexistent' error21:05
publioit looks like /boot is mounted from /dev/sda1, which is my disk21:05
publio(in chroot)21:05
lucas-arghey guys, im on ubuntu 15.04 just updated from 14.04 im on a laptop... in 14.04 i had to install laptop-mode-tools to be able no completly shutdown my laptop now in 15.04 that doesnt happen... i also tried with grub tweaks and didint work out either... can some one hive me a hand here??21:07
gambl0rei always get error messages when trying to install npm packages...21:08
gambl0rei have to run sudo all the time which i dont want21:08
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butterhaxhi21:10
Fuchsgambl0re: if you run npm without the -g option and it still requires sudo, chances are that your directory permissions are a bit wrong21:10
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butterhaxok obviously i know about sudo apt-get update im not stupid but it doesnt work and this is more trickier21:10
publiogambl0re: it's a common problem, there's something on this on npm docs21:10
butterhaxi am running off of a 2nd generation macbook21:10
publioyou can change the dir21:11
butterhaxand literally ubuntu 721:11
gambl0reif i installed npm as root does that mean i have to install all npm packages with sudo?21:11
butterhaxi need to update21:11
butterhaxplease help21:11
SoltisI can't get nginx to autostart on reboot21:11
Fuchshttps://docs.npmjs.com/getting-started/fixing-npm-permissions  this one  (gambl0re)21:11
gambl0renow i cant even remove  with - npm sudo npm uninstall npm -g command21:11
gambl0refuck21:11
Soltisupdate-rc.d nginx defaults says the symlinks are already installed21:11
SoltisI even tried doing update-rc.d nginx disable; update-rc.d nginx defaults21:12
butterhaxSoltis: what does that command do?21:12
lucas-argSoltis: did u tried ln -s whatever /home/whatever/.autostart?21:12
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Soltisbutterhax: 'defaults' says symlinks are already installed; 'disable' seems to put a bunch of K20nginx symlinks into /etc/rc*.d/21:12
Soltisbutterhax: Latest version of nginx on 14.04 btw21:13
Soltisbutterhax: And it starts fine if I start it manually.21:13
Fuchslucas-arg: putting a httpd in the autostart of a local desktop user is a very stupid idea21:13
daftykinsFuchs: +1!21:13
lucas-argit was just and idea21:13
FuchsSoltis: do you get anything in either the system- or nginx logs?  Maybe something like a port already being in use or the likes21:13
butterhaxwell good for you, im stuck with ubuntu 7 right now it looks like im in the 1980's21:13
k1lbutterhax: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?21:13
publioubuntu366: My system's missing /boot/grub dir, if that has anything to do with my update-grub error: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/friendly-recovery/+bug/143886221:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 1438862 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "Using grub in Recovery Menu fails with separate /boot partition" [Medium,Fix released]21:14
SoltisFuchs: No, nothing in the logs. And it does start fine if I do `service nginx start` immediately upon boot21:14
gambl0rewtf is this? npm WARN uninstall not installed in /usr/local/lib/node_modules: "npm"21:14
publioit's a new fix, i might have missed the update :(21:14
butterhaxubuntu 7.0421:14
k1lbutterhax: so you are that far behind with the upgrades, that you should make a reinstall21:15
publiogambl0re: I think the command order is off, it looks like it's trying to to delete a package21:15
butterhaxKil its ubuntu 7.04 i believe its called swifty or something like that21:15
k1lbutterhax: a reinstall with a proper actual supported ubuntu21:15
butterhaxi cant reinstall this machine its a macbook 2nd generation21:15
zerowaitstateexit21:15
gambl0rethats what i want to do21:15
butterhaxit was impossible to get this version on it21:15
gambl0rei want to get rid of npm package management21:15
rypervenchebutterhax: There is no way to upgrade. A reinstall is required.21:16
k1lbutterhax: 7.04 lost support ages ago. so we cant help you on that.21:16
butterhaxi literally had to install this with a live cd from years ago because the ubuntu site didn't even have this version on the site'21:16
FuchsSoltis: initctl list | grep nginx    gives you something sane?21:16
SoltisFuchs: Nothing21:16
butterhaxnothing is impossible there has to be some repo out there i can connect too21:16
FuchsSoltis: while initctl start nginx   works?  (both require sudo, mind)21:17
k1lbutterhax: well, that is not a ubuntu repo.21:17
SoltisFuchs: That gives unknown job: nginx21:17
butterhaxKil: hmmmm i dunno21:17
rypervenchebutterhax: What would even be the point of updating if you're getting years-old package updates? Those are not updates.21:17
Fuchsright, so upstart doesn't know it, you only have initscripts. That should technically still work, though21:17
butterhaxi want a newer distro21:18
SoltisFuchs: Yeah.21:18
k1lbutterhax: than dont install 7.04 if you want a newer distro21:18
k1lbutterhax: 12.04 or 14.04 are the oldest one that still get support21:18
butterhaxis it impossible to install ubuntu 14 on this?  the only OS i have is the one im talking to you on now21:18
SoltisFuchs: Every rc.d dir has this: /etc/rc0.d/K20nginx -> ../init.d/nginx21:18
k1lbutterhax: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads21:19
FuchsSoltis: I dislike the K, can I see the contnet of that file in a pastebin, please?21:19
butterhaxhow can i can that on this machine?21:19
SoltisFuchs: Which file?21:19
Fuchsactually ... disregard that, for rc0 this is fine,21:19
rypervenchebutterhax: The same way you installed the old version. Using a CD.21:19
Fuchscheck rc2.d21:19
k1lbutterhax: see the link!21:19
SoltisFuchs: /etc/rc3.d/S20nginx -> ../init.d/nginx21:19
butterhaxfirefox is just not working21:19
k1lbutterhax: are you even listening?21:20
butterhaxmaybe i can plug it into terminal21:20
SoltisFuchs: So 2-5 have S and [016] have K21:20
butterhaxKil: yes21:20
k1lbutterhax: there are still powerpc isos.21:20
FuchsSoltis: that should work, then. Odd21:20
k1lso install a 12.04 or 14.04 powerpc iso.21:20
SoltisFuchs: Very.21:20
FuchsSoltis: I mean ... you could add it to rc.local, but that is very much a hack21:21
e01is it possible to simulate software AP mode for wifi card that have no ap mode?21:21
SoltisFuchs: error.log for nginx is 0 bytes; dmesg | grep nginx shows nothing; grep nginx /var/log/syslog shows nothing21:21
FuchsSoltis: can you put the file that is linked in rc2.d  in a pastebin, please?21:21
SoltisFuchs: Of course, I thought of that already. But it's hideous.21:21
SoltisFuchs: http://pastebin.com/adiQMhBz21:23
butterhaxKil: thanks but this system is just very buggy21:23
butterhaxKil: do you happen to know what the distro name for 12.04 is?21:23
Guest86181hi, guys, what can i look for in my kern.log if i want to find out why my system crashes?21:24
k1lbutterhax: precise21:24
FuchsSoltis: that should work. The only things coming to mind still are it being unable to start due to   1)  a stale pid file around  2) /run  not being available by the time it tries to start  3) the port being blocked when it tries to start21:24
butterhaxKil: or the actual .iso file name /downloads/ubuntu12.04.iso21:24
SoltisFuchs: The 3 should trigger errors in the nginx log21:25
butterhaxok cool21:25
butterhaxthnx21:25
SoltisFuchs: And would assume whatever used 80 was shutting off immediately21:25
Fuchsyes and yes21:25
SoltisFuchs: I just switched this machine from apache to nginx, and apache worked fine21:25
Fuchsbut aside from that, I don't see why it shouldn't work21:25
SoltisFuchs: Yeah.21:25
SoltisUrk.21:25
Fuchsand you are sure that apache doesn't get started? Because that would block port 8021:25
gambl0rehave you guys always been using ubuntu?21:25
k1lbutterhax: did you even read the wiki page? you need the special powermac isos.21:25
Fuchsso maybe if upstart is happy enough to run apache's httpd, then stop it later on, you'd get that21:25
SoltisFuchs: 1. It's not running on boot; 2. I did update-rc.d apache2 disable21:26
gambl0reit seems impossible for anybody to udnerstand the linux os unless you've been using it since day 121:26
FuchsSoltis: you could just assign a different port to nginx to rule that out21:26
SoltisFuchs: I'd agree, except that still wouldn't explain the whole "nothing in the log" issue.21:26
Fuchsgambl0re: I never have been using ubuntu, but that's more of a question for the social channel, #ubuntu-offtopic21:26
rypervenchegambl0re: You might want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic :)21:26
SoltisFuchs: And fwiw nothing is mounting over /var21:26
FuchsSoltis: yes, but ruling out possible error sources is maybe the next sane thing to do21:26
SoltisFuchs: So we can eliminate the chance of the nginx log being obscured by a mount21:26
FuchsSoltis: /run, not /var/run21:26
SoltisFuchs: True. W/e. I'll try it.21:27
FuchsAnd /run is a bit of a tricky and special thing21:27
SoltisFuchs: "special", yes.21:27
gambl0rehow do you copy folders into another folder21:28
gambl0recp folder path folderdestination21:28
gambl0re??21:28
Fuchsgambl0re: cp -R /path/to/folder1/*  /path/to/folder2/21:28
Fuchsassuming you want the contents21:29
Fuchselse without the /*21:29
lucas-argcant turn off my laptop!! lol this is so funny... any one with this bug??21:29
SoltisFuchs: Didn't start with a different port.21:29
gambl0rewhat if im already in the dirctory with the folder i want to copy21:29
gambl0rei dont need to specify the entire path21:29
FuchsSoltis: bleh. Well, one thing would be to put some debug statements in the init script that are logged to a file21:30
gambl0recp foldername folderdestination21:30
bekksgambl0re: so specify . instead21:30
gambl0re?21:30
SoltisFuchs: In /etc/init.d/nginx ?21:30
geniigambl0re:  the .  means "here"21:30
Fuchsgambl0re: if you want to copy a whole folder (and not its contents) you need to specificy -R for recursive21:30
publioI've reinstalled my kernel by chrooting, it's missing /boot/grub.  Is this line a problem?  "/dev/sda1                    229G  213G  4.8G  98% /boot"21:30
FuchsSoltis: yes. Ugly hack, but if logs don't give any information, it might help to find where things go wrong21:30
bekkspublio: Why is your /boot 229G?21:30
SoltisFuchs: It's only ugly if I leave them there.21:31
SoltisFuchs: No such thing as ugly debugging21:31
publiobekks: That's the same as /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root (encrypted partition). They should be separate on mys system21:31
FuchsSure21:31
dtscodehey guys... I'm running an ubuntu 14.04 vps. I have an irc bot that I invoke with `./squawker 2>&1 > freenode.log &` but when I exit the ssh session, it kills the bot. how can I get the bot to persist?21:32
gambl0rei found a faster way...drap and drop21:32
bekkspublio: Why did you mount it as /boot then?21:32
publiobut /boot looks normal, except a missing grub folder, as does /21:32
gambl0redrag and drop21:32
publioi don't think i did?21:32
Deathstarso where the heck is Firefox 39??21:32
RDX4OODeathstar, coming this Weekend21:32
publiomaybe i mounted the wrong mapper21:32
idd2dI've deployed a rails app via dokku. When I run the rake task to generate the app's model records, it fails & I get the following (very cryptic) output. Does this mean anything to anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11817539/21:33
SoltisFuchs: WEIRD21:33
SoltisFuchs: This time, it started21:33
Fuchso.O21:33
SoltisFuchs: I literally did nothing other than add debugging.21:34
SoltisFuchs: I think we have a heisenbug on our hands21:34
FuchsSoltis: remove it and see if it still starts, I guess?21:34
nivekibaphello21:34
SoltisFuchs: Verily. .O21:34
nivekibai am new21:35
FuchsSoltis: odd, but glad it got solved, I guess.21:35
SoltisFuchs: Started correctly on reboot without the debug stuff21:38
Fuchsyeah, I guess we shall count this as one of the more odd bugs21:38
Fuchswould be fun to see if it is reproducible with a fresh package install, that one. As per above: glad it got solved, though.21:38
SoltisFuchs: I can probably reproduce it; I have about 30 servers that all have the same issue.21:40
FuchsSoltis: lovely, then maybe you can report it to launchpad and see that it gets fixed for everybody21:40
SoltisFuchs: md5sum of that file gives identical output on two different machines21:41
Soltis(Am I just going insane, here?)21:41
FuchsSoltis: have a file from both a server where it works and where it doesn't, diff it, not only content, but also things like access rights, ACLs / SELinux context if you use either21:41
Fuchsmd5 is content, also check the metadata21:41
SoltisFuchs: Perms and such are identical too21:42
Fuchsokay, that's definitely odd, then21:42
SoltisFuchs: Yes.21:42
FuchsI'd say get in touch with some nginx devs, I think they even are on lolnode21:42
SoltisFuchs: Shit like this happens to me about once a week.21:42
Fuchsyeah, #nginx, there they are21:42
Fuchsmaybe they have an idea what might trigger that21:42
SoltisFuchs: Meaning, incredibly bizarre bugs nobody else ever sees21:42
Fuchsthat one I really can't explain ... I mean, modifying the file might modify rights, it might modify context of things like SELinux and it definitely modifies atime, but none of that should matter21:43
Guest99575When I hold down a key on my keyboard and I move my mouse, the mouse movement is very choppy. What can I do to fix this?21:43
bekksGuest99575: Release the key.21:43
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Guest86181hey guys how can I check the validity of my system drive while running this system, is this possible?21:44
FuchsGuest99575: is that a mouse or a touchpad?21:44
Guest99575bekks But it affects WASD movement in games.21:45
Guest99575Fuchs mouse21:45
FuchsGuest86181: reason I ask: there are daemons that disable (what they think are) touchpads when you are typing21:45
* typingdreamer jumps21:45
Guest86181Fuchs: you chose the wrong Gust Nick :)21:46
Guest99575Fuchs the touchpad works fine with the keyboard, but the mouse does not for some reason.\21:46
Fuchsbleh, yes, sorry21:46
Fuchsy'all all should just get real nicks instead :p21:46
FuchsGuest99575: what kind of mouse?21:46
FuchsGuest99575: a good start would be to read logs  (mainly: dmesg and  /var/log/Xorg.0.log) plus have xev running, then reproducing it21:47
Guest99575I've tried a couple differents kinds of mice, but it doesnt seem to affect it.  The mouse is a21:47
Guest99575logitech m100 anyways21:47
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Guest99575How can I start xev Fuchs?21:48
FuchsGuest99575: so you get the same behaviour with all of them? If yes: tried a different USB port?21:48
FuchsGuest99575: open a terminal, type xev, hit enter. Give the little window that opens the focus, hold key, move mouse across that little window. Should produce tons of events in the console you started xev in, which might give a hint21:48
Guest99575Fuchs I just tried a different USB port, doesnt affect the behaviour.21:49
Guest99575I'll try xev now21:49
realnikkdoes anyone know if i can use smartctl on a running system disk?21:49
Fuchsrealnikk: smartctl should work, yes21:50
Fuchsfsck won't, smartctl should be fine, even extended tests21:50
Guest99575Fuchs this is what I got from xev when holding down key and moving mouse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11817649/21:51
realnikkFuchs: it says permission denioed, sud it? like sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdd ??21:51
FuchsGuest99575: that doesn't look too off. Hm. Nothing in dmesg or /var/log/Xorg.0.log, then?21:52
Guest99575I'll check those now21:52
Fuchsrealnikk: yes21:52
realnikkok thx Fuchs21:52
Guest99575This is from dmesg fuchs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11817667/ and I'll get /var/log21:55
FuchsGuest99575: I'm afraid someone else has to take over, midnight here, thus I shall move to bed, sorry. Good luck, though21:55
Guest99575/var/log/Xorg.0.log fuchs http://paste.ubuntu.com/11817661/21:55
Guest99575Thanks for your help so far though21:55
FuchsGuest99575: random shots in the blue so you are occupied if nobody else replies: if nothing odd is in the logs, I'd check if that is reproducable with a different window manager, preferably something tiny without compositing, e.g. fluxbox or openbox21:56
Guest99575I'll give that a shot, thanks!21:56
realnikkFuchs would you know any way to show in terminal whther or not my system disk is broken?21:58
realnikkFuchs: good night=))21:59
realnikkwould anyone know any way to show in terminal whther or not my system disk is broken?21:59
funyunhi. i'm installing ubuntu on my server but which should i choose? amd64 or x86? here's my results from uname -a "Linux localhost 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux"22:00
eliasmtz001I don't know xD22:00
eliasmtz001maybe Linux x86 because this have more apps22:02
funyuneliasmtz001: do you know which will work best for hosting wordpress websites?22:02
Bashing-omrealnikk: Software (filesytem) from a liveDVD run a file system check, Hardware ( hard disk failute) run 'smartctl' to check the SMART report .22:04
butterhaxKil: you still there?22:06
WarboyIndiaany good channel for someone who is new to raspberry pi? suggestions?22:07
butterhaxim opening up GParted right now and going to partition ubuntu 12 so if i dont come back it was nice knowing you22:07
butterhax/parted22:07
squintyrealnikk,  you can also view smartdata in Disks via the cog icon at the top right (also on the livedvd)22:07
eliasmtz001^^22:07
gygabitecan someone help me with a problem? it's a doozy22:08
WarboyIndiafunyun, go for adm6422:08
gygabitei'm relatively new to linux so i failed at fixing it22:08
WarboyIndiagygabite, what happen?22:08
realnikkBashing-om: squinty i assume it is the hardware. smartctl doesnt work for some reason. i am not running the system and it says SMART is nopt supported22:08
funyunWarboyIndia: okay. any paticular reasons?22:08
gygabitewell, i have an hp stream and i downloaded ubuntu on it a few months ago without fail, but when my friend got one, i convinced him to let me install it on his22:09
Sophie_Thttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgiCTLGhKXY22:09
gygabitehe was at my house so we skipped the internet setup part, thinking we could do it again later22:09
gygabitewhen he asked me to download some programs for him, i clicked on the wireless icon at the top22:09
WarboyIndiafunyun, since your processor supports 64bit arch, it's good to install a amd64 for better performance.22:09
gygabitethere was no option for wifi, only for network and vpn22:10
gygabitei don't have an ethernet port on this either, nor a cd drive22:10
realnikkBashing-om: squinty: would these livedvd disk checks you assume work on an encrypted disk as well if unmounted=?22:10
funyunWarboyIndia: okay. thanks22:10
gygabitei tried reinstalling ubuntu but that time it didn't even give us an option to set up internet22:10
WarboyIndiagygabite, do you have a wifi receiver?22:10
gygabitei went through the wifi troubleshooting page, and installed drivers but that did nothing22:10
gygabiteit's the same exact laptop as the one i have, and it works fine22:11
gygabitei installed drivers from the live usb thing22:11
WarboyIndiagygbite. which version of ubuntu did you download?22:11
gygabiteand i need it fixed by tomorrow, i tried installing linux mint but when i plugged in the usb it didn't even boot up at all, it just stayed on a black screen, backlit22:11
gygabite14.0422:11
gygabiteit's a different usb drive though, i can't find the one i installed linux with22:12
squintyrealnikk: it should show the smartdata even if unmounted22:12
gygabitethen i tried xubuntu, but that didn't work either22:12
gygabitethen i thought to format the drive and reinstall ubuntu, but then i remembered the usb drive didn't work22:12
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realnikksquinty, if i do that how can i see its broken and then fix it? what would it say?22:13
gygabiteso now i'm stuck22:13
WarboyIndiagygbite, tried with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?22:13
Bashing-omrealnikk: Smart: Maybe :In the case that SMART is not enabled for your drive, you can enable it by typing: ' sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda '  - where 'sda' is the target in question . As to encryption, Not in my tool box .22:13
WarboyIndiagygbite: or any other similar version?22:14
WarboyIndiagygbite: go get one and try with GUI, It should work with it.22:14
gygabiteyeah, i used 14.0422:14
squintyrealnikk,  if the drive is dying, smartdata will tell you so.  if it is dying, then backup your important stuff right away and get a new drive.  you could also double check at your drive's manufacturer site to see if they have a drive testing software available22:14
gygabitei used the gui, i'm very new to linux so i used the LTS version22:15
gygabitei can't install other distros because the usb drive just freezes the computer at boot22:15
realnikkBashing-om: it will give sudo smartctl -s on -d ata -T permissive /dev/sdd  Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 82-83 don't show if SMART supported. SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 85-87 don't show if SMART is enabled. A mandato22:15
gygabitelet me give you some information about my network card22:15
realnikkBashing-om: .... A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.22:16
realnikksquinty, and smartdata can be run only on a livesystem, from usb for instance?22:17
gygabitelshw says *-network UNCLAIMED for some reason22:17
gygabitenot sure if it said that before22:17
Bashing-omrealnikk: Must be a real old hard drive if SMART is not supported . Not look'n good for the home team.22:17
daftykinsgygabite: means the interface is down or there's no driver.22:17
gygabiteit's a broadcom bcm4314222:17
realnikkBashing-om: 3 years, not older22:17
gygabitelet me switch to the driver it came with22:17
realnikkBashing-om: used to be external22:18
anth0nyAnyone have any tips re: seeing which app is using all my memory remotely? I'm sending the command to a server via salt, so something like top or htop won't work (unless I'm wrong about that)22:18
WarboyIndiagygbite, looks some kind of problem with your drivers. Sorry I'm unable to solve your problem.22:19
gygabitea note is that i skipped the internet setup at the beginning because i would set it up at a different point later22:20
gygabitei need to solve this by tomorrow ;-;22:20
Bashing-omrealnikk: Curious; is 'sdd' the valid target ? as reported by 'fdisk' and/or 'blkid' ?22:20
gygabitelet me try to find the old usb22:21
squintyrealnikk,  smartdata isn't a program    it refers to the same info that one would get from smartctl.  I just mentioned to use Disks (a program which is also available in an installed system or livedvd/usb) as a quick non commandline check.  Disks can also mount, unmount etc drives too22:21
gygabitenvm i'll just install ubuntu on the new usb22:21
WarboyIndiagygbite: ok. all the best!22:21
realnikksquinty, ok thx22:21
gygabitei don't think it will work though22:22
squinty!broadcom | gygabite22:22
ubottugygabite: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx22:22
gygabitethanks22:22
realnikkBashing-om: yes it is split in sdd1, sdd2, 3 and 422:23
WarboyIndiawow bots are so smart!22:23
gygabitewhen i do lspci it doesn't show a kernel driver in use22:24
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scrufflapAnyone here know how to stream from mlb.com?22:57
scrufflapPaid to stream the Dead shows, but it's flash based and just sits and spins.22:58
dennis_Hey23:03
OerHeksscrufflap, that would be beyond the scope of this channel23:03
dennis_hey23:04
dennis_Is somebody there to help me?23:04
dennis_I have a Problem with my Ubuntu Mate.23:04
dennis_Hello?!23:06
LucakeHi23:06
dennis_Hey, how is it going?23:06
Lucakegood23:07
dennis_I have a Problem with my ubuntu Mate :/23:07
OerHeksdennis_, don' ask to ask, ask your real issue and find out?23:07
dennis_Ok, i just wanted to be friendly....23:08
dennis_Everytime i suspend my laptop and after that i wake it up again the buttons from mate are away.23:08
WarboyIndiadennis_,  happens with me too.23:09
dennis_and the second problem is: when i shutdown my laptop the ubuntulogo is moving all over the screen....23:09
dennis_I have a Lenovo E550 with Intel i5 5200U, what should i do to fix it?23:10
OerHeksi know 2 wiki's about supend and hybernate debugging https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelHibernate23:10
scrufflapThanks, DerHecks, I suspected as much.23:11
OerHeksHave you searched for your laptop model + ubuntu version?23:11
dennis_No...?23:11
dennis_http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201411-16167/23:12
dennis_In Ubuntu 14.04 are much things, that dont work, but in 15.04, there are just the two things.23:13
Zebra111dennis_ what other problems are you experiencing with ubuntu 14.04?23:13
dennis_The videodriver isnt working23:14
dennis_the touchpad doesnt work23:14
Zebra111How do you know that the video driver isn't working?23:15
mr0everywherei have a shared connection coming from a windows computer to my linux computer, but there is no network activity showing between the 2 devices. anybody know how to get the linux computer to play nicely with my windows 8 computer23:15
dennis_i cant play 4k videos23:15
dennis_i cant play simples games23:15
dennis_with 15.04 i can23:15
Zebra111dennis_ try searching "drivers" in the unity dash and click on "Additional Drivers"23:15
Zebra111in the window that comes up, click on "Additional Drivers" tab once again23:16
Zebra111then see if there is one available23:16
dennis_I already did that.23:16
dennis_And i managed after a time to get the videocard working.23:17
Zebra111Are you using the same device that you installed 14.04 and 15.04 on?23:17
dennis_But 14.04 has a bad performance on broadwells....23:17
dennis_Yes23:17
Zebra111Do you know what video card you have?23:18
dennis_http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu-1504-5600u&num=123:18
dennis_Yes i have a HD 550023:18
dennis_But i dont want to use 14.04 either, cause the performance is bad there23:18
Zebra111Right23:19
Zebra111Well, you could use 15.04 but the disadvantage is that it's not LTS23:19
dennis_No problem, i just want to fix my two problems23:19
Zebra111I did have issues myself with 14.04 with video stuff23:19
Zebra111but I just upgraded and they went away; unfortunately doesn't help too much though23:20
dennis_LTS is not interessting for me23:20
sudonekoHey everyone, how can I find the frequency that my wireless adaptor is using? I've tried using 'iwlist wlan0 freq' but there is no frequency information available.23:21
awcI've lost the ability to search for applications. If I type in the search bar, it will return files that match my query, but no the application itself. e.g. if I type "so" of "software updater" It will return a number of song titles, but continuing on with the "f" and everything disappears. I've checked the filters, and set it to applications only... again nothing. thoughts?23:22
Zebra111dennis_ the article says that you can install a newer kernel (and mesa) and it might help performance on 14.04, but if 14.04 isn't interesting to you then don't do it23:23
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dennis_Yes i dont want to do it. i just want to fix my two problems :D23:23
Zebra111awc try rm ~/.cache/software-center -R then unity --reset &23:24
dennis_When my laptop is working, i wont update the system so or so :D23:24
TJ-sudoneko: "iwconfig"23:24
Zebra111dennis_ what was your other problem that you were experiencing?23:24
dennis_I have ubuntu mate23:24
dennis_suspend isnt working23:24
mosesdennis_: on your laptop?23:24
Zebra111What happens when you try to suspend dennis_?23:24
dennis_I can suspend it, but when i wake it up again the mate bottons are gone.23:25
sudonekoI've managed to find the available frequencies using 'iw phy' however is it possible to view which band is currently being used?23:25
awcZebra111, I got this: ERROR: the reset option is now deprecated" Should I try it again but with root?23:25
Voovhey guys im on 15.04 and using skype i cant video chat the option is disabled. but if i go in options it detects my camera and i can see myself. Does any one have an idea why?23:25
TJ-sudoneko: "iwconfig"23:25
TJ-sudoneko: e.g. "Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.472 GHz"23:26
Zebra111awc Don't use root, just log out and log in again and see if that helps23:26
awcZebra111, will do!23:26
sudonekoThankyou TJ-23:28
awcZebra111, Thanks! it worked!23:28
Zebra111No problem! I got the answer from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125843/23:28
mr0everywherei have a shared connection coming from a windows computer to my linux computer, but there is no network activity showing between the 2 devices. anybody know how to get the linux computer to play nicely with my windows 8 computer23:32
squintymr0everywhere,  make sure you have samba installed.  open your file browser (nautilus,Files, etc) and then select Browse network23:40
mr0everywheresquinty, all i see is the linux computer when i browse network23:44
squintymr0everywhere,  from the windows computer you mean?23:45
mr0everywherefrom the linux computer23:46
squintymr0everywhere,  try "connect to Server" in your file manager.  type applicable similar to following   smb://192.168.0.100   or smb://mycomputer23:53
IPhotonI have made the mistake of messing with gnome-terminal profile settings, when I went to "title and command" and checked "run custom command instead of shell". Now the terminal closes as soon as I click on it23:55
IPhotonis there anyway to untick that setting without opening it?23:55
IPhotonlike going to the properties window23:55
IPhotonso I can uncheck it23:55
mosesis changing DE difficult in 14.04?23:55
brmphmoses: no23:56
brmphcan you ddetail what you mean moses23:56
mosesim trying to switch to ldxe from unity23:56
moseslxde23:57
brmphmoses: switch mening?23:57
brmphmeaning*23:57
mosesthe DE23:57
mosesi dont want unity23:57
mosesI want to use LXDE23:57
brmphmoses: You choose the installed dektop at the login screen from a drop down gear.23:57
mosescan you seriously?23:58
mosesdoes anyone have lxde here?23:58
brmphmoses: I would not try to remove unity, it is actually tiny, a plugin in compiz sitting on top of gnome 3, lxde will share dependencies.23:58
mosesso then how do i stop this resource hog?23:59
mosesfrom ruining my laptop23:59

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