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pragomerCan I config icon-spacing in xfce4-panel? (program-starter-icons!)07:28
Bwithmore14hello guys how to setup static ip address if im using wireless connection08:53
knomeBwithmore14, via the network manager in your panel by default08:53
Bwithmore14can you give me examples  knome?08:53
knomeermm.. what kind of examples exactly?08:54
Bwithmore14how to setup it in network manager ?08:54
knomeclick the network manager icon and select edit connections08:54
Bwithmore14then08:54
knomeselect the wifi network you want to edit and click edit08:54
knomethen go to the IPV4 settings tab08:55
Bwithmore14then man08:55
knomethen change the method and your preferred settings08:55
NewUserhi all! i use xubuntu some days now from a persistance usb flash drive created in windows, i want to install it in the hard drive, the chanches i did in the live persistencs will be also installed? it is better to use a live usb without persistence?13:13
cfhowlettNewUser, installing it will give you a speedier xubuntu13:14
NewUserhi cfhowlett, i am going to install it, i just want to know if i can use the live usb with persistence or i have to prepare another without percistence!13:15
cfhowlettNewUser, note what changes you've made in persistence so you can replicate on your new installation.13:16
NewUserok! thanx!13:17
cfhowletthappy2help NewUser13:18
NewUser:-) bye13:18
yoLo__where an i download xubuntu minimal cd ?15:18
yoLo__can*15:18
GridCube!mini15:19
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD15:19
GridCubeyoLo__: ^ when installin you choose the xubuntu desktop15:19
GridCubeor the xubuntu-core15:19
yoLo__i see15:20
nomicyolo .. there is a net install . which will allow you to download the lot from the web (with a boot process much smaller)15:22
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nomicyoLo__,   "net install"  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet15:23
nomicThis HOWTO describes one way to do a Netboot install of Ubuntu by booting from files on a hard disk. This installation method does not require burning a CD (or using any other external media, like a USB key), and it does not require you to configure a server on your LAN for PXE booting.15:23
nomicthat is the most minimal15:23
yoLo__it's either i'm just terrible at using linux or debian 8 has changed a lot15:26
yoLo__i have tried few instruction and i still can't get rfcomm015:26
yoLo__at my dev directory15:26
yoLo__i sudo apt-get upgrade not knowing this will upgrade my wheezy to jessie15:27
yoLo__now everything is screwed15:28
GridCubeno idea what you talking about15:34
yoLo__anyways thankis15:35
yoLo__thanks*15:36
yoLo_choosing xubuntu minimal will install without GUI right ?16:13
yoLo_GridCube:16:13
holsteini would expect the xubuntu GUI16:14
holsteinxubuntu ships XFCE, even minimally configured, that is a GUI16:14
holstein!mini16:14
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD16:14
holstein^ that, or a server iso.. that would give you no GUI..16:14
yoLo_i selected xubuntu desktop16:16
holsteinright.. and thats a GUI.. so, if you dont want a GUI, you dont want xubuntu, or xfce.. you want minimal, that you build without a GUI,or a server iso, that doesnt ship a GUI16:16
holstein!text16:16
ubottuTo start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode16:16
holsteinyou can start the machine without the GUI running.. ^16:17
yoLo_everything seems to have been installed but nothing boots unfortunately16:17
holsteinwell, if you have xubuntu installed, it will boot..16:18
yoLo_turn my laptop on, GRUB is suppose to appear16:18
yoLo_but nothing16:18
holsteinif you build something from minimal, you will be responsible for setting up more of the OS16:18
pencilandpaperwhat iso did you download yoLo_ ?16:18
pencilandpaperto install from.16:18
yoLo_vivid minimal cd16:19
yoLo_which is about 40MB16:19
holsteincould be, you have a hardware issue.. i might run a few tests, if only quickly, to confirm a few things.. 1. a memory test from a standard xubuntu live iso, and 2. i could run a smart test on the hard drive from there, and 3. i would see that the live environment runs on my hardware16:19
pencilandpaperok, well then that is why yoLo_ , you still have to install what is needed to get it to boot.16:19
holsteinwhich, is nothing, since you dont want a GUI16:19
yoLo_i actually do want a GUI16:20
holsteinthe xubuntu iso provides that, by default.. though, you can add whatever yo ulike after installing from minimal16:20
pencilandpaperyoLo_: are you staring at the pc with the minimal iso installed right now?16:20
yoLo_pencilandpaper i'm staring at a pc without an OS16:21
yoLo_just a blink cursor16:21
yoLo_which isn't suppose to be the case16:21
holsteinyoLo_: a login promt?16:21
pencilandpaperok yoLo_ , in that blink cursor enter su root16:22
pencilandpapertell me what happens please.16:22
yoLo_but when i hit ctrl alt + del i get ubuntu 15.04 writting at the center of the screen then pc shutdowns and reboots16:22
yoLo_i can't type anything16:22
yoLo_nothing i type appears in the screen16:22
holsteinhow about from tty?16:22
holstein!tty16:22
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution16:22
pencilandpaperhit this yoLo_ , ctrl+alt+F1 and tell me what happens please.16:23
yoLo_oh!16:23
yoLo_that worked16:23
yoLo_i get a own login:16:23
yoLo_but command line16:23
pencilandpapernice, now in that tty..login yoLo_ , and then enter su root..and tell me what happens please.16:24
holsteinfrom there, i would look into GPU hardware support16:24
holsteincould be as simple as installing a proprietary driver for the GPU. anyways, you know the system is installed, and you can do maintenance from there16:24
yoLo_pencilandpaper: su asks for password16:25
pencilandpaperyes yoLo_ , enter your login password and tell me when you are root.16:25
yoLo_but i wasn't asked for password during installation16:25
holsteinshould have setup a user password then..16:25
yoLo_instead i was asked for an adduser password which i provided16:25
pencilandpaperyou should have been..if you werent wow.16:25
pencilandpaperoops wait yoLo_ , who cares..in that terminal enter this: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop16:25
pencilandpaperyou are going to use your login password yoLo_ for all of it.16:26
holsteinor, first.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. then, if all goes well, and no errors. "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"16:26
yoLo_ok xubuntu-desktop is installing16:27
yoLo_it's about 1.2gigs16:27
yoLo_i still don't get why i needed to hit ctrl alt pluc f5 f616:28
yoLo_to get into tty16:28
pencilandpaperok great yoLo_ , once that is installed you are in pretty good shape..and should be able to simply boot in to a desktop after that.16:28
pencilandpapera GUI.16:28
yoLo_need i type that in each time i turn on my pc ?16:28
holsteinbecause, it seems you dont actually have xfce installed16:28
pencilandpaperthats just how it is yoLo_ .16:28
yoLo_hmm..16:29
yoLo_i see16:29
pencilandpaperno, after installing xubuntu-desktop you should be good to go..having xfce installed.16:29
yoLo_will xfce be installed afterwords ?16:29
pencilandpaperyes.16:29
yoLo_that's just one thing that excites me about linux everything is just soo basic16:30
yoLo_i got an error :| !!16:32
yoLo_Errors were encountered while processing systemd16:33
holsteinwhats the goal? installing xubuntu? if so, i say, try the pre-built xubuntu iso.. its made for getting you what you are doing16:33
yoLo_E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1)16:33
holsteini see those when having multiple package managers open.. etc16:34
pencilandpaperyoLo_: do me a favor and enter: sudo apt-get install -f16:34
pencilandpapertell me what that says after you enter that please.16:34
yoLo_pencilandpaper: E: dpkg interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem16:38
yoLo_should i do it ?16:38
holsteinyou need to let those tasks complete.. and, i would check "sudo apt-get update" and see that the sources are working..16:39
holsteinit wont hurt to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", though, i bet this is a symptom of another issue..16:39
yoLo_ok so i should try sudo apt-get update16:40
holsteini think ,as far as my suggestions for "should", i think you should just use the prebuilt xubuntu iso.. but, right now, you have errors with the packaging system16:41
holsteinrunning "sudo apt-get update" should either, update your cache, or print errors about what sources, if any, are not working..16:41
holsteinyou can also try the message the system suggested, "sudo dpkg --configure -a", but, this wouldnt address the sources not connecting, if that is the issue16:42
yoLo_damn.. now i'm getting a tons of errors while this update is still in progress.. it's going fast unable to read16:44
holsteinyou shouldnt do things while that update is in process.. you'll have to patiently wait on it to complete16:44
yoLo_so far there's been about 14 Errros16:44
yoLo_i'm not16:44
yoLo_doing anything16:44
holsteinanyways.. messages are not always errors. or issues..16:45
yoLo_well not it's just hanging... Failed to execute operation: Connection timed out16:48
holsteinthats why i think it would be beneficial to check the sources.. and make sure "sudo apt-get update" completes as expected16:49
yoLo_Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit116:49
yoLo_sudo apt-get update is still in progress i believe so.. but it looks like it's been stalled by that Errors16:50
holsteinyoLo_: you need to wait..16:50
yoLo_i am :|16:50
holsteinyoLo_: *after* the update you have initiated is complete, then, you run sudo apt-get update, and troubleshoot the errors, if any16:51
pencilandpapersorry i got a phonecall. :(16:53
yoLo_holstein: unfortunately i don't think the update will be going on anytime soon..16:55
yoLo_it has been completely stalled :|16:55
holsteinyoLo_: it can appear to be..16:55
yoLo_i'm still waiting.. cursor still blinking16:55
yoLo_holstein: i think it's gotten into a loop at which it will never be able to recover..16:58
pencilandpaperwhat is it saying in terminal right now yoLo_ ?16:59
yoLo_Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: timeout was reached (g-io-error-quark, 24)17:04
yoLo_pencilandpaper:17:04
yoLo_Failed to execute operation: Connection time out17:04
yoLo_it's been 16 minutesright now17:05
yoLo_still hanging17:05
pencilandpaperis there a cursor after that..did it go back to your username?17:05
pencilandpapera new prompt?17:05
pencilandpaperso that you can type?17:06
yoLo_nope17:07
yoLo_there is a cursor17:07
yoLo_but hasn;t returned user17:07
pencilandpaperok thanks yoLo_ .17:07
pencilandpaperbummer, go and restart and see what you see when you get back..if you see nothing again hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get back to a terminal ok?17:08
pencilandpaperthen let us know when you are there again please.17:08
yoLo_ok17:11
yoLo_well pencilandpaper now i can't even get into tty17:14
pencilandpaperreally? :(17:16
yoLo_not at all..17:18
yoLo_has this anything to do with the fact that my hard drive is an ssd ?17:20
xubuntu58whi17:22
pencilandpaperyoLo_: do you need 32bit or 64bit?17:22
pencilandpaperi think that its using the minimal cd yoLo_ , and it just having issues getting things done for you.17:22
pencilandpaperhi xubuntu58w .17:23
xubuntu58wit is just a matter of systemd question17:23
yoLo_64-bit PC (amd64, x86_64)17:23
pencilandpaperare you in the united states yoLo_ ?17:24
xubuntu58wI am confusing with systemd integration onto Xubuntu.?17:25
yoLo_pencilandpaper: i'm in canada17:25
pencilandpaperok thanks.17:25
yoLo_for the mirror i chose united states17:25
yoLo_i'm installing the whole thing over again17:25
pencilandpaperhttp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/xubuntu-releases/15.04/release/xubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso <--- yoLo_ .17:26
pencilandpaperthat way you can atleast once installed you can boot right to desktop with a full install. if you have a data plan that only allows for a certain amount each day, then grab a torrent file.17:27
pencilandpaperonce you max out, close your torrent client, then start it again the next day.17:27
yoLo_pencilandpaper: thanks if this installation doesn't go well i'll burn your image to a disk and install it17:28
max12345I have an old version of qt i'm having trouble with. I can't uninstall it.17:28
pencilandpaperok yoLo_ ..and good luck.17:28
pencilandpapermax12345: did you install the new version already?17:29
max12345pencilandpaper, yep17:29
yoLo_pencilandpaper: this mirror site you've provided isn't a torrent version17:29
yoLo_it's actually the data itself17:29
pencilandpaperok, try sudo apt-get update and see what if those old qt libs are listed max12345 .17:29
pencilandpaperif they are listed and it recommends using sudo apt-get autoremove..do so to remove them.17:29
pencilandpapercorrect yoLo_ .17:30
pencilandpaperso the torrent file you will have to go and get at the site. i didnt think of that until later.17:30
xubuntu58wWhy Xubutnu 15.04 still uses init based script for its service initialization even systemd is used.?17:31
pencilandpaperi am not so sure that its full systemd yet xubuntu58w , i could be wrong about that.17:32
pencilandpaperi dont follow systemd that much and have uninstalled it on my system since i dont agree with it in general.17:32
max12345nope , pencilandpaper not listed17:33
xubuntu58wOhh, that mean Xubuntu decided to stick with Upstart further, even Kubuntu & Ubuntu fully integrate with systemd.?17:34
yoLo_is it important to install GRUB though i have only one OS ?17:36
yoLo_any good burner for windows i could use to burn this iso ?17:42
yoLo_pencilandpaper: apt-get update was successful this time17:42
yoLo_now i installing the xubuntu-desktop17:43
yoLo_i'll wait to see how that goes17:43
geniiyoLo_: ImgBurn17:43
pencilandpaperok nice yoLo_ . :)17:44
pencilandpaperyes yoLo_ , well i am hoping that grub will be installed along with xubuntu-desktop yoLo_ .17:44
yoLo_after minimal installation completed i still had to go through tty though17:46
yoLo_i;m assuming that the united stated mirror is corrupted17:46
holsteinwhy?17:47
holstein*im* on the us mirror.. anyways, it could be you cant access it for some reason.. why not use the full xubuntu iso?17:48
yoLo_holstein: everything seems to be working perfectly now17:50
yoLo_i'm waiting for the xubuntu-desktop to install17:50
yoLo_no error so far17:50
yoLo_:(17:51
yoLo_nevermind what i just said17:51
pencilandpapernice yoLo_ .17:52
yoLo_this is such a pain17:55
yoLo_pencilandpaper: now i will try your image17:55
yoLo_i do not require the internet to install yours i guess17:56
pencilandpaperyoLo_: wait, what you were doing didnt work?17:58
yoLo_pencilandpaper: installing the xubuntu-desktop17:58
pencilandpaperwell then you should let that finish, because when that is done it will be the same thing.17:59
yoLo_1.04minutes until completion i got the systmd Error17:59
pencilandpapero ok i see yoLo_ ..well then yeah go to with the image that i sent bro.18:01
pencilandpaperthat will install right to what you want. a full OS.18:01
yoLo_recommended that i connect to the internet ?18:01
yoLo_during installation ?18:01
holsteini dont18:02
yoLo_ok18:02
holsteini just install, *then*, i do the updates afterwards..18:02
yoLo_ok18:02
pencilandpaperyeah, thats up to you yoLo_ .18:04
yoLo_thanks for the help pencilandpaper , holstein18:11
yoLo_why is xubuntu soo..... blue ?18:13
holsteinyou can easily theme it as you please..18:13
pencilandpaperyw yoLo_ .18:18
pencilandpaperxubuntu has been blue as long as i have ever used it. lol18:18
yoLo_why am i being offered to upgrade to 15.04 when i'm currently on 15.0418:20
yoLo_but the system updater ?18:20
yoLo_by the*18:21
holsteinyoLo_: what would i do? simply close that, open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update".. see that there are no errors, then, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"18:21
pencilandpaper^18:24
yoLo_that's what i did18:25
yoLo_no errors18:25
pencilandpapernice, so its up to date then yoLo_ ?18:25
yoLo_yes18:27
pencilandpapercool, well now you are in good shape. :)18:27
pencilandpaperyou know how to install software that you want right?18:27
yoLo_yea prett much18:28
yoLo_pretty*18:28
pencilandpaperok, you can do that right from the software-center yoLo_ .18:29
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fractal618xubuntu is the best!20:16
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mr0everywherei have a shared connection coming from windows 8 trying to share it with my ubuntu device, the devices are showing no activity between them. anybody think they can help me troubleshoot this23:29
mr0everywhereanybody awake in here?23:53
Unit193No need to cross post...23:55

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