[07:28] <pragomer> Can I config icon-spacing in xfce4-panel? (program-starter-icons!)
[08:53] <Bwithmore14> hello guys how to setup static ip address if im using wireless connection
[08:53] <knome> Bwithmore14, via the network manager in your panel by default
[08:53] <Bwithmore14> can you give me examples  knome?
[08:54] <knome> ermm.. what kind of examples exactly?
[08:54] <Bwithmore14> how to setup it in network manager ?
[08:54] <knome> click the network manager icon and select edit connections
[08:54] <Bwithmore14> then
[08:54] <knome> select the wifi network you want to edit and click edit
[08:55] <knome> then go to the IPV4 settings tab
[08:55] <Bwithmore14> then man
[08:55] <knome> then change the method and your preferred settings
[13:13] <NewUser> hi all! i use xubuntu some days now from a persistance usb flash drive created in windows, i want to install it in the hard drive, the chanches i did in the live persistencs will be also installed? it is better to use a live usb without persistence?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> NewUser, installing it will give you a speedier xubuntu
[13:15] <NewUser> hi cfhowlett, i am going to install it, i just want to know if i can use the live usb with persistence or i have to prepare another without percistence!
[13:16] <cfhowlett> NewUser, note what changes you've made in persistence so you can replicate on your new installation.
[13:17] <NewUser> ok! thanx!
[13:18] <cfhowlett> happy2help NewUser
[13:18] <NewUser> :-) bye
[15:18] <yoLo__> where an i download xubuntu minimal cd ?
[15:18] <yoLo__> can*
[15:19] <GridCube> !mini
[15:19] <GridCube> yoLo__: ^ when installin you choose the xubuntu desktop
[15:19] <GridCube> or the xubuntu-core
[15:20] <yoLo__> i see
[15:22] <nomic> yolo .. there is a net install . which will allow you to download the lot from the web (with a boot process much smaller)
[15:23] <nomic> yoLo__,   "net install"  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[15:23] <nomic> This HOWTO describes one way to do a Netboot install of Ubuntu by booting from files on a hard disk. This installation method does not require burning a CD (or using any other external media, like a USB key), and it does not require you to configure a server on your LAN for PXE booting.
[15:23] <nomic> that is the most minimal
[15:26] <yoLo__> it's either i'm just terrible at using linux or debian 8 has changed a lot
[15:26] <yoLo__> i have tried few instruction and i still can't get rfcomm0
[15:26] <yoLo__> at my dev directory
[15:27] <yoLo__> i sudo apt-get upgrade not knowing this will upgrade my wheezy to jessie
[15:28] <yoLo__> now everything is screwed
[15:34] <GridCube> no idea what you talking about
[15:35] <yoLo__> anyways thankis
[15:36] <yoLo__> thanks*
[16:13] <yoLo_> choosing xubuntu minimal will install without GUI right ?
[16:13] <yoLo_> GridCube:
[16:14] <holstein> i would expect the xubuntu GUI
[16:14] <holstein> xubuntu ships XFCE, even minimally configured, that is a GUI
[16:14] <holstein> !mini
[16:14] <holstein> ^ that, or a server iso.. that would give you no GUI..
[16:16] <yoLo_> i selected xubuntu desktop
[16:16] <holstein> right.. and thats a GUI.. so, if you dont want a GUI, you dont want xubuntu, or xfce.. you want minimal, that you build without a GUI,or a server iso, that doesnt ship a GUI
[16:16] <holstein> !text
[16:17] <holstein> you can start the machine without the GUI running.. ^
[16:17] <yoLo_> everything seems to have been installed but nothing boots unfortunately
[16:18] <holstein> well, if you have xubuntu installed, it will boot..
[16:18] <yoLo_> turn my laptop on, GRUB is suppose to appear
[16:18] <yoLo_> but nothing
[16:18] <holstein> if you build something from minimal, you will be responsible for setting up more of the OS
[16:18] <pencilandpaper> what iso did you download yoLo_ ?
[16:18] <pencilandpaper> to install from.
[16:19] <yoLo_> vivid minimal cd
[16:19] <yoLo_> which is about 40MB
[16:19] <holstein> could be, you have a hardware issue.. i might run a few tests, if only quickly, to confirm a few things.. 1. a memory test from a standard xubuntu live iso, and 2. i could run a smart test on the hard drive from there, and 3. i would see that the live environment runs on my hardware
[16:19] <pencilandpaper> ok, well then that is why yoLo_ , you still have to install what is needed to get it to boot.
[16:19] <holstein> which, is nothing, since you dont want a GUI
[16:20] <yoLo_> i actually do want a GUI
[16:20] <holstein> the xubuntu iso provides that, by default.. though, you can add whatever yo ulike after installing from minimal
[16:20] <pencilandpaper> yoLo_: are you staring at the pc with the minimal iso installed right now?
[16:21] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper i'm staring at a pc without an OS
[16:21] <yoLo_> just a blink cursor
[16:21] <yoLo_> which isn't suppose to be the case
[16:21] <holstein> yoLo_: a login promt?
[16:22] <pencilandpaper> ok yoLo_ , in that blink cursor enter su root
[16:22] <pencilandpaper> tell me what happens please.
[16:22] <yoLo_> but when i hit ctrl alt + del i get ubuntu 15.04 writting at the center of the screen then pc shutdowns and reboots
[16:22] <yoLo_> i can't type anything
[16:22] <yoLo_> nothing i type appears in the screen
[16:22] <holstein> how about from tty?
[16:22] <holstein> !tty
[16:23] <pencilandpaper> hit this yoLo_ , ctrl+alt+F1 and tell me what happens please.
[16:23] <yoLo_> oh!
[16:23] <yoLo_> that worked
[16:23] <yoLo_> i get a own login:
[16:23] <yoLo_> but command line
[16:24] <pencilandpaper> nice, now in that tty..login yoLo_ , and then enter su root..and tell me what happens please.
[16:24] <holstein> from there, i would look into GPU hardware support
[16:24] <holstein> could be as simple as installing a proprietary driver for the GPU. anyways, you know the system is installed, and you can do maintenance from there
[16:25] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: su asks for password
[16:25] <pencilandpaper> yes yoLo_ , enter your login password and tell me when you are root.
[16:25] <yoLo_> but i wasn't asked for password during installation
[16:25] <holstein> should have setup a user password then..
[16:25] <yoLo_> instead i was asked for an adduser password which i provided
[16:25] <pencilandpaper> you should have been..if you werent wow.
[16:25] <pencilandpaper> oops wait yoLo_ , who cares..in that terminal enter this: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:26] <pencilandpaper> you are going to use your login password yoLo_ for all of it.
[16:26] <holstein> or, first.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".. then, if all goes well, and no errors. "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[16:27] <yoLo_> ok xubuntu-desktop is installing
[16:27] <yoLo_> it's about 1.2gigs
[16:28] <yoLo_> i still don't get why i needed to hit ctrl alt pluc f5 f6
[16:28] <yoLo_> to get into tty
[16:28] <pencilandpaper> ok great yoLo_ , once that is installed you are in pretty good shape..and should be able to simply boot in to a desktop after that.
[16:28] <pencilandpaper> a GUI.
[16:28] <yoLo_> need i type that in each time i turn on my pc ?
[16:28] <holstein> because, it seems you dont actually have xfce installed
[16:28] <pencilandpaper> thats just how it is yoLo_ .
[16:29] <yoLo_> hmm..
[16:29] <yoLo_> i see
[16:29] <pencilandpaper> no, after installing xubuntu-desktop you should be good to go..having xfce installed.
[16:29] <yoLo_> will xfce be installed afterwords ?
[16:29] <pencilandpaper> yes.
[16:30] <yoLo_> that's just one thing that excites me about linux everything is just soo basic
[16:32] <yoLo_> i got an error :| !!
[16:33] <yoLo_> Errors were encountered while processing systemd
[16:33] <holstein> whats the goal? installing xubuntu? if so, i say, try the pre-built xubuntu iso.. its made for getting you what you are doing
[16:33] <yoLo_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code(1)
[16:34] <holstein> i see those when having multiple package managers open.. etc
[16:34] <pencilandpaper> yoLo_: do me a favor and enter: sudo apt-get install -f
[16:34] <pencilandpaper> tell me what that says after you enter that please.
[16:38] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: E: dpkg interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[16:38] <yoLo_> should i do it ?
[16:39] <holstein> you need to let those tasks complete.. and, i would check "sudo apt-get update" and see that the sources are working..
[16:39] <holstein> it wont hurt to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", though, i bet this is a symptom of another issue..
[16:40] <yoLo_> ok so i should try sudo apt-get update
[16:41] <holstein> i think ,as far as my suggestions for "should", i think you should just use the prebuilt xubuntu iso.. but, right now, you have errors with the packaging system
[16:41] <holstein> running "sudo apt-get update" should either, update your cache, or print errors about what sources, if any, are not working..
[16:42] <holstein> you can also try the message the system suggested, "sudo dpkg --configure -a", but, this wouldnt address the sources not connecting, if that is the issue
[16:44] <yoLo_> damn.. now i'm getting a tons of errors while this update is still in progress.. it's going fast unable to read
[16:44] <holstein> you shouldnt do things while that update is in process.. you'll have to patiently wait on it to complete
[16:44] <yoLo_> so far there's been about 14 Errros
[16:44] <yoLo_> i'm not
[16:44] <yoLo_> doing anything
[16:45] <holstein> anyways.. messages are not always errors. or issues..
[16:48] <yoLo_> well not it's just hanging... Failed to execute operation: Connection timed out
[16:49] <holstein> thats why i think it would be beneficial to check the sources.. and make sure "sudo apt-get update" completes as expected
[16:49] <yoLo_> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1
[16:50] <yoLo_> sudo apt-get update is still in progress i believe so.. but it looks like it's been stalled by that Errors
[16:50] <holstein> yoLo_: you need to wait..
[16:50] <yoLo_> i am :|
[16:51] <holstein> yoLo_: *after* the update you have initiated is complete, then, you run sudo apt-get update, and troubleshoot the errors, if any
[16:53] <pencilandpaper> sorry i got a phonecall. :(
[16:55] <yoLo_> holstein: unfortunately i don't think the update will be going on anytime soon..
[16:55] <yoLo_> it has been completely stalled :|
[16:55] <holstein> yoLo_: it can appear to be..
[16:55] <yoLo_> i'm still waiting.. cursor still blinking
[16:58] <yoLo_> holstein: i think it's gotten into a loop at which it will never be able to recover..
[16:59] <pencilandpaper> what is it saying in terminal right now yoLo_ ?
[17:04] <yoLo_> Error getting authority: Error initializing authority: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: timeout was reached (g-io-error-quark, 24)
[17:04] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper:
[17:04] <yoLo_> Failed to execute operation: Connection time out
[17:05] <yoLo_> it's been 16 minutesright now
[17:05] <yoLo_> still hanging
[17:05] <pencilandpaper> is there a cursor after that..did it go back to your username?
[17:05] <pencilandpaper> a new prompt?
[17:06] <pencilandpaper> so that you can type?
[17:07] <yoLo_> nope
[17:07] <yoLo_> there is a cursor
[17:07] <yoLo_> but hasn;t returned user
[17:07] <pencilandpaper> ok thanks yoLo_ .
[17:08] <pencilandpaper> bummer, go and restart and see what you see when you get back..if you see nothing again hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get back to a terminal ok?
[17:08] <pencilandpaper> then let us know when you are there again please.
[17:11] <yoLo_> ok
[17:14] <yoLo_> well pencilandpaper now i can't even get into tty
[17:16] <pencilandpaper> really? :(
[17:18] <yoLo_> not at all..
[17:20] <yoLo_> has this anything to do with the fact that my hard drive is an ssd ?
[17:22] <xubuntu58w> hi
[17:22] <pencilandpaper> yoLo_: do you need 32bit or 64bit?
[17:22] <pencilandpaper> i think that its using the minimal cd yoLo_ , and it just having issues getting things done for you.
[17:23] <pencilandpaper> hi xubuntu58w .
[17:23] <xubuntu58w> it is just a matter of systemd question
[17:23] <yoLo_> 64-bit PC (amd64, x86_64)
[17:24] <pencilandpaper> are you in the united states yoLo_ ?
[17:25] <xubuntu58w> I am confusing with systemd integration onto Xubuntu.?
[17:25] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: i'm in canada
[17:25] <pencilandpaper> ok thanks.
[17:25] <yoLo_> for the mirror i chose united states
[17:25] <yoLo_> i'm installing the whole thing over again
[17:26] <pencilandpaper> http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/xubuntu-releases/15.04/release/xubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso <--- yoLo_ .
[17:27] <pencilandpaper> that way you can atleast once installed you can boot right to desktop with a full install. if you have a data plan that only allows for a certain amount each day, then grab a torrent file.
[17:27] <pencilandpaper> once you max out, close your torrent client, then start it again the next day.
[17:28] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: thanks if this installation doesn't go well i'll burn your image to a disk and install it
[17:28] <max12345> I have an old version of qt i'm having trouble with. I can't uninstall it.
[17:28] <pencilandpaper> ok yoLo_ ..and good luck.
[17:29] <pencilandpaper> max12345: did you install the new version already?
[17:29] <max12345> pencilandpaper, yep
[17:29] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: this mirror site you've provided isn't a torrent version
[17:29] <yoLo_> it's actually the data itself
[17:29] <pencilandpaper> ok, try sudo apt-get update and see what if those old qt libs are listed max12345 .
[17:29] <pencilandpaper> if they are listed and it recommends using sudo apt-get autoremove..do so to remove them.
[17:30] <pencilandpaper> correct yoLo_ .
[17:30] <pencilandpaper> so the torrent file you will have to go and get at the site. i didnt think of that until later.
[17:31] <xubuntu58w> Why Xubutnu 15.04 still uses init based script for its service initialization even systemd is used.?
[17:32] <pencilandpaper> i am not so sure that its full systemd yet xubuntu58w , i could be wrong about that.
[17:32] <pencilandpaper> i dont follow systemd that much and have uninstalled it on my system since i dont agree with it in general.
[17:33] <max12345> nope , pencilandpaper not listed
[17:34] <xubuntu58w> Ohh, that mean Xubuntu decided to stick with Upstart further, even Kubuntu & Ubuntu fully integrate with systemd.?
[17:36] <yoLo_> is it important to install GRUB though i have only one OS ?
[17:42] <yoLo_> any good burner for windows i could use to burn this iso ?
[17:42] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: apt-get update was successful this time
[17:43] <yoLo_> now i installing the xubuntu-desktop
[17:43] <yoLo_> i'll wait to see how that goes
[17:43] <genii> yoLo_: ImgBurn
[17:44] <pencilandpaper> ok nice yoLo_ . :)
[17:44] <pencilandpaper> yes yoLo_ , well i am hoping that grub will be installed along with xubuntu-desktop yoLo_ .
[17:46] <yoLo_> after minimal installation completed i still had to go through tty though
[17:46] <yoLo_> i;m assuming that the united stated mirror is corrupted
[17:47] <holstein> why?
[17:48] <holstein> *im* on the us mirror.. anyways, it could be you cant access it for some reason.. why not use the full xubuntu iso?
[17:50] <yoLo_> holstein: everything seems to be working perfectly now
[17:50] <yoLo_> i'm waiting for the xubuntu-desktop to install
[17:50] <yoLo_> no error so far
[17:51] <yoLo_> :(
[17:51] <yoLo_> nevermind what i just said
[17:52] <pencilandpaper> nice yoLo_ .
[17:55] <yoLo_> this is such a pain
[17:55] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: now i will try your image
[17:56] <yoLo_> i do not require the internet to install yours i guess
[17:58] <pencilandpaper> yoLo_: wait, what you were doing didnt work?
[17:58] <yoLo_> pencilandpaper: installing the xubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <pencilandpaper> well then you should let that finish, because when that is done it will be the same thing.
[17:59] <yoLo_> 1.04minutes until completion i got the systmd Error
[18:01] <pencilandpaper> o ok i see yoLo_ ..well then yeah go to with the image that i sent bro.
[18:01] <pencilandpaper> that will install right to what you want. a full OS.
[18:01] <yoLo_> recommended that i connect to the internet ?
[18:01] <yoLo_> during installation ?
[18:02] <holstein> i dont
[18:02] <yoLo_> ok
[18:02] <holstein> i just install, *then*, i do the updates afterwards..
[18:02] <yoLo_> ok
[18:04] <pencilandpaper> yeah, thats up to you yoLo_ .
[18:11] <yoLo_> thanks for the help pencilandpaper , holstein
[18:13] <yoLo_> why is xubuntu soo..... blue ?
[18:13] <holstein> you can easily theme it as you please..
[18:18] <pencilandpaper> yw yoLo_ .
[18:18] <pencilandpaper> xubuntu has been blue as long as i have ever used it. lol
[18:20] <yoLo_> why am i being offered to upgrade to 15.04 when i'm currently on 15.04
[18:20] <yoLo_> but the system updater ?
[18:21] <yoLo_> by the*
[18:21] <holstein> yoLo_: what would i do? simply close that, open a terminal, and run "sudo apt-get update".. see that there are no errors, then, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[18:24] <pencilandpaper> ^
[18:25] <yoLo_> that's what i did
[18:25] <yoLo_> no errors
[18:25] <pencilandpaper> nice, so its up to date then yoLo_ ?
[18:27] <yoLo_> yes
[18:27] <pencilandpaper> cool, well now you are in good shape. :)
[18:27] <pencilandpaper> you know how to install software that you want right?
[18:28] <yoLo_> yea prett much
[18:28] <yoLo_> pretty*
[18:29] <pencilandpaper> ok, you can do that right from the software-center yoLo_ .
[20:16] <fractal618> xubuntu is the best!
[23:29] <mr0everywhere> i have a shared connection coming from windows 8 trying to share it with my ubuntu device, the devices are showing no activity between them. anybody think they can help me troubleshoot this
[23:53] <mr0everywhere> anybody awake in here?
[23:55] <Unit193> No need to cross post...