[02:01] <parzzix> Hello?
[02:58] <parzzix> I'm looking to get involved....need guidance and place to start..off to bed, but if you see this shoot me an email at tim at apples dot email..thanks
[04:00] <valorie> parzzix: please join the Kubuntu-devel list and tell us all what you are interested in doing
[04:00] <valorie> and we'll do our best to point you in the right direction
[04:00] <valorie> or just talk to me now
[05:06] <fewcha_> How to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu?
[05:19] <fewcha_> I was trying to build plasma from source from https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Building but when I am running kdesrc-build, it is giving the following error when it is trying to build kxmlrpcclient (build system KDE) from frameworks: https://paste.kde.org/p40jti5si/eumyas
[05:20] <fewcha_> I wanted to contribute to the kde plasma-mediacenter, but since it is not possible to build the plasma-mediacenter separately from source because it has runtime deps to plasma-workspace, so I need to build plasma-workspace before that
[05:20] <fewcha_> and for that I need Qt 5.4 in my system
[05:21] <fewcha_> so can someone please tell me how to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS ?
[05:23] <fewcha_> Only qt4-x11 is there in the Kubuntu backports as shown in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+index?batch=75&direction=backwards&memo=825&start=750
[05:25] <fewcha_> although libqt5core5a is already installed and the newest version
[05:27] <fewcha_> and dpkg -l|grep -e libqt |grep -e dev is giving output https://paste.kde.org/p0d5khqkn/dhp7i1 so I am not sure what I am missing
[06:24] <valorie> hi fewcha_ -- I would ask in #kde-devel
[06:24] <valorie> most of our devels are gone this particular weekend
[06:25] <valorie> you probably will get most of the dependencies you need with something like sudo apt install build-dep plasma-workspace plasma-mediacenter
[06:25] <valorie> or so
[06:29] <fewcha_> valorie: okay
[06:29] <fewcha_> thanks
[06:29] <fewcha_> :)
[06:30] <valorie> good luck
[06:31] <fewcha_> :)
[07:11] <fewcha_> valorie: well, here's what I am getting anyway: https://paste.kde.org/pewfexu6t/gy6q7f
[07:18] <valorie> oops, leave out `install`
[07:18] <valorie> my mistake
[07:18] <fewcha_> ah, okay :)
[07:18] <valorie> build-dep is a command, not a packaGE
[07:18] <valorie> and you may have to do that twice
[07:19] <valorie> once for plasma-workspace and once for plasma-mediacenter
[07:19] <valorie> but try it for both to save time
[07:19] <fewcha_> okay
[07:21] <fewcha_> valorie: "sudo apt build-dep anything" is showing "E: Invalid operation build-dep"
[07:22] <valorie> that's strange
[07:22] <valorie> works for me
[07:22] <valorie> I'm building amarok right now
[07:22]  * fewcha_ is going through https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1310294
[07:22] <valorie> I just ran `sudo apt-get build-dep amarok`
[07:23] <valorie> ewww
[07:23] <fewcha_> oh its apt-get
[07:23] <fewcha_> sorry
[07:23] <valorie> ah, apt is behind apt-get for that I guess
[07:23] <valorie> I usually use apt, and if that doesn't work, fall back to the oldie but goody apt-get
[07:24] <fewcha_> okies :)
[07:25] <fewcha_> hmm, i think it worked
[07:29] <fewcha_> but that's not what I require to fix the problem imo
[07:30] <fewcha_> let me just see what the kde-devel guys have to say about this :)
[07:30] <valorie> get more dependencies installed is never a bad thing
[07:32] <fewcha_> hmm, right :)
[07:33] <fewcha_> actually I tried a "sudo apt-get build-dep kxmlrpcclient" as well
[07:33] <fewcha_> but it's unable to find a source package for that
[07:35] <valorie> !info kxmlrpcclient
[07:36] <valorie> !info kxmlrpc
[07:37] <fewcha_> btw, kxmlrpcclient because https://paste.kde.org/pokb6fxjb/ekwe5n
[07:37] <valorie> $ apt-cache search kxmlrpc
[07:37] <valorie> libkblog4 - client-side support library for web application remote blogging APIs
[07:37] <valorie> libkf5xmlrpcclient-data - data files for kxmlrpcclient
[07:37] <valorie> libkf5xmlrpcclient-dbg - debug symbols for kxmlrpcclient
[07:37] <valorie> libkf5xmlrpcclient-dev - development files for kxmlrpcclient
[07:37] <valorie> libkxmlrpcclient4 - simple XML-RPC client library
[07:37] <valorie> you probably need the -dev
[07:38] <fewcha_> oh
[07:38] <valorie> apt-cache search helps
[07:38] <valorie> if at first it finds nothing, take off some characters
[07:38] <fewcha_> its showing me libkblog4 and libkxmlrpcclient4
[07:39] <valorie> notice what I searched for
[07:39] <fewcha_> yeah I have done that only
[07:39] <fewcha_> rpc
[07:39] <valorie> apt-cache policy packagename shows you what you have installed
[07:40] <valorie> I think apt show does about the saem
[07:40] <valorie> same
[07:40] <fewcha_> okay
[07:41] <fewcha_> so I am installing libkf5xmlrpcclient-data, libkf5xmlrpcclient-dbg, and libkf5xmlrpcclient-dev then
[07:41] <valorie> and you can use ^ as a wildcard sometimes
[07:41] <valorie> if you just do -dev, it will pull in what you need
[07:41] <valorie> simpler
[07:42] <valorie> I've never done kdesrc-build so I'm not able to make sense of your whole paste
[07:43] <fewcha_> hmm
[07:43] <valorie> but trying to build amarok, I'm coming up with the same "Unable to compile a basic Qt application.  Qt has not been found correctly."
[07:44] <valorie> so I'm thinking there is a common problem here
[07:44] <fewcha_> hmm, so how did you fix it when you got that the first time?
[07:45] <fewcha_> is there any way to build plasma-mediacenter without using kdesrc-build?
[07:45] <valorie> I didn't
[07:45] <valorie> ah, I don't think so
[07:45] <valorie> I read #kde-devel and #plasma
[07:45] <valorie> and that's how everyone does it
[07:46] <valorie> but those are the folks you need to ask
[07:46] <valorie> bshah is very helpful if he's about
[07:48] <fewcha_> I cloned mediacenter separately locally and when I do "cmake -DKDE_INSTALL_USE_QT_SYS_PATHS=ON -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kf5-config --prefix` .." from its build folder I get an error starting with "kf5-config: command not found"
[07:48] <fewcha_> yeah, I have talked to him recently in private
[07:49] <valorie> he's in this chan as well so he must be not at his keyboard, or not looking at IRC
[07:49] <fewcha_> he said that I need to install Qt 5.4 in my system to run kdesrc-build correctly and told me to ask it in #kubuntu and they further asked me to ask in #kubuntu-devel
[07:50] <valorie> it's nearly 1 am here, so I'm going to write to amarok-devel list about my error and see if I get any insight there
[07:50] <fewcha_> he also told me to ask it in #kde-devel as well :)
[07:50] <fewcha_> okay, thanks a lot :)
[07:50] <valorie> !info qt
[07:51] <valorie> right, tell me the packagename silly ubottu
[07:51] <fewcha_> haha :D
[07:52] <valorie> https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu
[07:53] <fewcha_> hmm, I have gone through that, but maybe it is for 5.0.2
[07:54] <valorie> seems taht `sudo apt-get install build-essential libgl1-mesa-dev` might be useful
[07:54]  * valorie tries
[07:54] <valorie> I already have it
[07:54] <valorie> grrrr
[07:55] <fewcha_> so do I :D
[07:57] <fewcha_> btw, this: https://paste.kde.org/pcy2gdzia/qcqstr in case it helps
[07:58] <valorie> I hope never to mess with cmake past pasting in the correct command
[08:00] <valorie> of course apt search qt filled bash's buffer
[08:00] <valorie> there has to be a meta-package
[08:00] <valorie> maybe muon will tell me
[08:02] <valorie> aha, qtbase5-dev
[08:03] <valorie> version 5.4.1
[08:03] <valorie> not sure that's right, but you can ask
[08:04] <valorie> I doubt I need that for amarok
[08:27] <fewcha_> hmm, qtbase5-dev seems to be already installed here
[08:35] <valorie> ok
[08:35]  * valorie has got to head bedward
[08:36] <valorie> I hope you can get some help later
[08:36] <fewcha_> valorie: cool, btw please let me know when you get some reply from the amarok-devel list
[08:37] <fewcha_> thanks :)
[08:37] <fewcha_> nite
[08:37] <fewcha_> :)
[08:37] <valorie> ah, I already found out that trying to build a Qt4 application with Qt5 won't work
[08:38] <fewcha_> okay
[08:38] <valorie> has to be a separate install, separately pointed to
[08:38]  * valorie has not enough time to set that up
[08:38] <fewcha_> cool
[08:38] <fewcha_> will talk later then :)
[09:54] <santa_> good morning
[09:54] <santa_> valorie: you don't need a separate installation to build qt programs, this is the script I'm using to call cmake for building krecipes: https://paste.kde.org/pwxgprmlv
[09:55] <santa_> export QT_SELECT=4 is the important bit
[10:20] <murthy_> need to paste image, which one should I use?
[10:22] <santa_> I guess can use this one: http://imagebin.ca/
[10:29] <murthy_> http://imagebin.ca/v/27Sckxd8zprg
[10:32] <murthy_> I am trying to troubleshoot my kubuntu 15.04. The problem is it takes 3 mins to shutdown. I found that kactivitymanager segfaults using dmesg and so I opened it in gdb to find the above error. Can kactivitymanager be disabled for testing purpose and is it safe?
[10:32] <murthy_> Further guidance to find the bug would be helpful 
[10:33] <santa_> murthy_: could you check if you have libqt5sql5-sqlite installed?
[10:36] <murthy_> santa_: ya, its installed, I check it now. I had seen the error message and found the line libqt5sql so so I found the containing package which you told me. I even reinstalled it yesterday, just in case it got corrupted. I checked all the packages with debsums
[10:37] <murthy_> santa_: Can I run a check on the sql database in my system
[10:39] <murthy_> santa_: Can a corrupt database cause lead kactivitymanager to segfault? I am not able to get a backtrace since the process crashes after the shutdown gets initiated. You could see that in the image
[10:40] <murthy_> santa_: Yesterday I pasted my kernel log here. If you want to take a look I will give you
[10:44] <murthy_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kactivities-kf5/+bug/1445167
[10:44] <fewcha_> santa_: Can you tell me how to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu?
[10:51] <Guest29428> murthy_: can you reproduce the bug with a fresh new account?
[10:51] <murthy_> Guest29428: ok, let me try
[10:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:54] <murthy_> BluesKaj: hi
[10:54] <BluesKaj> hey murthy_
[10:54] <murthy_> santa_: I have created a new user, should I restart before I login to the new user?
[10:55] <murthy_> santa_: ok, first i will try without restarting. brb
[10:56] <santa_> murthy_: yeah, no need to restart
[11:04] <murthy_> santa_: I logged into the new user and shutdown the system. still there is a delay of 3 mins
[11:06] <murthy_> after initiating the shutdown systemctl list-jobs  highlight session-2.scope as running and other processes as waiting
[12:40] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[20:14] <valorie> santa, thanks so much! I will try it
[20:26] <santa_> :)
[20:29] <valorie> now time to water the flowers; we are suffering extreme heat
[20:41] <vip> if i can say something, just drink water (or tea) to prevent stroke
[20:53] <valorie> oh yes, this is the second week of the heat wave here
[20:53] <valorie> lots and lots of water and some coffee too
[20:53] <valorie> fortunately I have a/c so I can recover
[20:54] <valorie> poor plants are stuck in the blazing sun though
[20:54] <valorie> much more and much earlier than usual in the puget sound area
[21:31] <parzzix> I am going to get my feet wet with learning to code. What do people here think about Learning Python the Hard Way? Any opinions?
[22:28] <lordievader> What do you mean with 'the hard way'?
[22:29] <lordievader> parzzix: ^
[22:30] <parzzix> hey lordievader, its a book
[22:31] <lordievader> Ah, I started with codecademy and then started my own projects in python3.
[22:41] <valorie> parzzix: many people began by trying to fix/improve/invent something they wanted
[22:41] <valorie> that person itch to make it happen seems to help folks over the hard bits
[22:42] <lordievader> Yeah, you learn the quickest by doing.
[22:50] <mparillo> I know we like to follow upstream, but I like this wall paper. Simple, but it really pops. https://plus.google.com/+quidsup/posts/TsYJUYFD39n
[22:53] <valorie> that's lovely