[02:01] Hello? [02:58] I'm looking to get involved....need guidance and place to start..off to bed, but if you see this shoot me an email at tim at apples dot email..thanks [04:00] parzzix: please join the Kubuntu-devel list and tell us all what you are interested in doing [04:00] and we'll do our best to point you in the right direction [04:00] or just talk to me now [05:06] How to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu? [05:19] I was trying to build plasma from source from https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Building but when I am running kdesrc-build, it is giving the following error when it is trying to build kxmlrpcclient (build system KDE) from frameworks: https://paste.kde.org/p40jti5si/eumyas [05:20] I wanted to contribute to the kde plasma-mediacenter, but since it is not possible to build the plasma-mediacenter separately from source because it has runtime deps to plasma-workspace, so I need to build plasma-workspace before that [05:20] and for that I need Qt 5.4 in my system [05:21] so can someone please tell me how to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS ? [05:23] Only qt4-x11 is there in the Kubuntu backports as shown in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports/+index?batch=75&direction=backwards&memo=825&start=750 [05:25] although libqt5core5a is already installed and the newest version [05:27] and dpkg -l|grep -e libqt |grep -e dev is giving output https://paste.kde.org/p0d5khqkn/dhp7i1 so I am not sure what I am missing [06:24] hi fewcha_ -- I would ask in #kde-devel [06:24] most of our devels are gone this particular weekend [06:25] you probably will get most of the dependencies you need with something like sudo apt install build-dep plasma-workspace plasma-mediacenter [06:25] or so [06:29] valorie: okay [06:29] thanks [06:29] :) [06:30] good luck [06:31] :) [07:11] valorie: well, here's what I am getting anyway: https://paste.kde.org/pewfexu6t/gy6q7f [07:18] oops, leave out `install` [07:18] my mistake [07:18] ah, okay :) [07:18] build-dep is a command, not a packaGE [07:18] and you may have to do that twice [07:19] once for plasma-workspace and once for plasma-mediacenter [07:19] but try it for both to save time [07:19] okay [07:21] valorie: "sudo apt build-dep anything" is showing "E: Invalid operation build-dep" [07:22] that's strange [07:22] works for me [07:22] I'm building amarok right now [07:22] * fewcha_ is going through https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1310294 [07:22] Ubuntu bug 1310294 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt is missing build-dep changelog and source commands." [Low,New] [07:22] I just ran `sudo apt-get build-dep amarok` [07:23] ewww [07:23] oh its apt-get [07:23] sorry [07:23] ah, apt is behind apt-get for that I guess [07:23] I usually use apt, and if that doesn't work, fall back to the oldie but goody apt-get [07:24] okies :) [07:25] hmm, i think it worked [07:29] but that's not what I require to fix the problem imo [07:30] let me just see what the kde-devel guys have to say about this :) [07:30] get more dependencies installed is never a bad thing [07:32] hmm, right :) [07:33] actually I tried a "sudo apt-get build-dep kxmlrpcclient" as well [07:33] but it's unable to find a source package for that [07:35] !info kxmlrpcclient [07:35] Package kxmlrpcclient does not exist in wily [07:36] !info kxmlrpc [07:36] Package kxmlrpc does not exist in wily [07:37] btw, kxmlrpcclient because https://paste.kde.org/pokb6fxjb/ekwe5n [07:37] $ apt-cache search kxmlrpc [07:37] libkblog4 - client-side support library for web application remote blogging APIs [07:37] libkf5xmlrpcclient-data - data files for kxmlrpcclient [07:37] libkf5xmlrpcclient-dbg - debug symbols for kxmlrpcclient [07:37] libkf5xmlrpcclient-dev - development files for kxmlrpcclient [07:37] libkxmlrpcclient4 - simple XML-RPC client library [07:37] you probably need the -dev [07:38] oh [07:38] apt-cache search helps [07:38] if at first it finds nothing, take off some characters [07:38] its showing me libkblog4 and libkxmlrpcclient4 [07:39] notice what I searched for [07:39] yeah I have done that only [07:39] rpc [07:39] apt-cache policy packagename shows you what you have installed [07:40] I think apt show does about the saem [07:40] same [07:40] okay [07:41] so I am installing libkf5xmlrpcclient-data, libkf5xmlrpcclient-dbg, and libkf5xmlrpcclient-dev then [07:41] and you can use ^ as a wildcard sometimes [07:41] if you just do -dev, it will pull in what you need [07:41] simpler [07:42] I've never done kdesrc-build so I'm not able to make sense of your whole paste [07:43] hmm [07:43] but trying to build amarok, I'm coming up with the same "Unable to compile a basic Qt application. Qt has not been found correctly." [07:44] so I'm thinking there is a common problem here [07:44] hmm, so how did you fix it when you got that the first time? [07:45] is there any way to build plasma-mediacenter without using kdesrc-build? [07:45] I didn't [07:45] ah, I don't think so [07:45] I read #kde-devel and #plasma [07:45] and that's how everyone does it [07:46] but those are the folks you need to ask [07:46] bshah is very helpful if he's about [07:48] I cloned mediacenter separately locally and when I do "cmake -DKDE_INSTALL_USE_QT_SYS_PATHS=ON -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kf5-config --prefix` .." from its build folder I get an error starting with "kf5-config: command not found" [07:48] yeah, I have talked to him recently in private [07:49] he's in this chan as well so he must be not at his keyboard, or not looking at IRC [07:49] he said that I need to install Qt 5.4 in my system to run kdesrc-build correctly and told me to ask it in #kubuntu and they further asked me to ask in #kubuntu-devel [07:50] it's nearly 1 am here, so I'm going to write to amarok-devel list about my error and see if I get any insight there [07:50] he also told me to ask it in #kde-devel as well :) [07:50] okay, thanks a lot :) [07:50] !info qt [07:50] Package qt does not exist in wily [07:51] right, tell me the packagename silly ubottu [07:51] haha :D [07:52] https://wiki.qt.io/Install_Qt_5_on_Ubuntu [07:53] hmm, I have gone through that, but maybe it is for 5.0.2 [07:54] seems taht `sudo apt-get install build-essential libgl1-mesa-dev` might be useful [07:54] * valorie tries [07:54] I already have it [07:54] grrrr [07:55] so do I :D [07:57] btw, this: https://paste.kde.org/pcy2gdzia/qcqstr in case it helps [07:58] I hope never to mess with cmake past pasting in the correct command [08:00] of course apt search qt filled bash's buffer [08:00] there has to be a meta-package [08:00] maybe muon will tell me [08:02] aha, qtbase5-dev [08:03] version 5.4.1 [08:03] not sure that's right, but you can ask [08:04] I doubt I need that for amarok [08:27] hmm, qtbase5-dev seems to be already installed here [08:35] ok [08:35] * valorie has got to head bedward [08:36] I hope you can get some help later [08:36] valorie: cool, btw please let me know when you get some reply from the amarok-devel list [08:37] thanks :) [08:37] nite [08:37] :) [08:37] ah, I already found out that trying to build a Qt4 application with Qt5 won't work [08:38] okay [08:38] has to be a separate install, separately pointed to [08:38] * valorie has not enough time to set that up [08:38] cool [08:38] will talk later then :) [09:54] good morning [09:54] valorie: you don't need a separate installation to build qt programs, this is the script I'm using to call cmake for building krecipes: https://paste.kde.org/pwxgprmlv [09:55] export QT_SELECT=4 is the important bit [10:20] need to paste image, which one should I use? [10:22] I guess can use this one: http://imagebin.ca/ [10:29] http://imagebin.ca/v/27Sckxd8zprg [10:32] I am trying to troubleshoot my kubuntu 15.04. The problem is it takes 3 mins to shutdown. I found that kactivitymanager segfaults using dmesg and so I opened it in gdb to find the above error. Can kactivitymanager be disabled for testing purpose and is it safe? [10:32] Further guidance to find the bug would be helpful [10:33] murthy_: could you check if you have libqt5sql5-sqlite installed? [10:36] santa_: ya, its installed, I check it now. I had seen the error message and found the line libqt5sql so so I found the containing package which you told me. I even reinstalled it yesterday, just in case it got corrupted. I checked all the packages with debsums [10:37] santa_: Can I run a check on the sql database in my system [10:39] santa_: Can a corrupt database cause lead kactivitymanager to segfault? I am not able to get a backtrace since the process crashes after the shutdown gets initiated. You could see that in the image [10:40] santa_: Yesterday I pasted my kernel log here. If you want to take a look I will give you [10:44] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kactivities-kf5/+bug/1445167 [10:44] Error: Could not gather data from Ubuntu for bug #1445167 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1445167). The error has been logged [10:44] santa_: Can you tell me how to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu? === santa is now known as Guest29428 [10:51] murthy_: can you reproduce the bug with a fresh new account? [10:51] Guest29428: ok, let me try === Guest29428 is now known as santa_ [10:53] Howdy folks [10:54] BluesKaj: hi [10:54] hey murthy_ [10:54] santa_: I have created a new user, should I restart before I login to the new user? [10:55] santa_: ok, first i will try without restarting. brb [10:56] murthy_: yeah, no need to restart === Guest20174 is now known as thelionroars [11:04] santa_: I logged into the new user and shutdown the system. still there is a delay of 3 mins [11:06] after initiating the shutdown systemctl list-jobs highlight session-2.scope as running and other processes as waiting [12:40] Good afternoon. [20:14] santa, thanks so much! I will try it [20:26] :) [20:29] now time to water the flowers; we are suffering extreme heat [20:41] if i can say something, just drink water (or tea) to prevent stroke [20:53] oh yes, this is the second week of the heat wave here [20:53] lots and lots of water and some coffee too [20:53] fortunately I have a/c so I can recover [20:54] poor plants are stuck in the blazing sun though [20:54] much more and much earlier than usual in the puget sound area [21:31] I am going to get my feet wet with learning to code. What do people here think about Learning Python the Hard Way? Any opinions? === murthy_ is now known as murthy === bduncan_ is now known as bduncan [22:28] What do you mean with 'the hard way'? [22:29] parzzix: ^ [22:30] hey lordievader, its a book [22:31] Ah, I started with codecademy and then started my own projects in python3. [22:41] parzzix: many people began by trying to fix/improve/invent something they wanted [22:41] that person itch to make it happen seems to help folks over the hard bits [22:42] Yeah, you learn the quickest by doing. [22:50] I know we like to follow upstream, but I like this wall paper. Simple, but it really pops. https://plus.google.com/+quidsup/posts/TsYJUYFD39n [22:53] that's lovely