[10:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:41] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:12] <hyper_ch> hi BluesKaj
[14:12] <BluesKaj> hi hyper_ch
[14:13] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: so, been busy today with nixos :)
[14:14] <BluesKaj> no, i've been fixing my debian install, mostly small annoying stuff that I let slide for a while
[14:15] <BluesKaj> dunno if I have to learn a new package management system for starters
[14:15] <hyper_ch> no, I have been :) just doing virtualbox install now
[14:15] <BluesKaj> have time
[14:16] <BluesKaj> and so far so good ?
[14:17] <hyper_ch> am building now... seems good.... will update my configuration nix when I'm done
[14:17] <hyper_ch> building done, rebooting now just to make sure and then test it :)
[14:19] <BluesKaj> is there a NixOS chat on irc?
[14:19] <hyper_ch> yes
[14:20] <BluesKaj> freenode/
[14:20] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:20] <hyper_ch> #nixos
[14:20] <BluesKaj> ok thanks
[14:21] <hyper_ch> now it seems something went wrong :)
[14:21] <hyper_ch> kdm didn't start
[14:21] <BluesKaj> I might give it a try, but need to do some partitioning first , i don't care for vm installs, there's always something unfixable
[14:31] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: found the error... I installed vbox as guest and not as host :)
[14:32] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:37] <BluesKaj> hyper_ch, have you tried qemu-kvm, it's very quick compared to virtual box
[14:37] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: haven't tried yet
[14:37] <hyper_ch> but I know it's very fast
[14:37] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:37] <hyper_ch> some people say with according video cards you get almost same performance as under native windows
[14:38] <hyper_ch> BluesKaj: my current configuration.nix   https://github.com/sjau/nixos/blob/master/configuration.nix
[14:38] <hyper_ch> also interesting is the package list for kde:  https://nixos.org/wiki/KDE#How_to_install_KDE_4
[14:38] <hyper_ch> will still have to go through there :)
[14:39] <hyper_ch> also important: https://nixos.org/wiki/Howto_find_a_package_in_NixOS
[14:40] <hyper_ch> next thing I'll have to figure out how to set my kde default settings :)
[14:44] <lordievader> People game on kvm ;)
[14:46] <hyper_ch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37D2bRsthfI
[14:46] <hyper_ch> maybe one day, when I'm old, I'll have a look at kvm
[14:50] <BluesKaj> well, I'm old and i tried it on kubuntu 14.10 with windows as the guest OS. Windows 7 was very fast etc , but it couldn't see other windows machines on my LAN
[14:51] <hyper_ch> no brigded networking?
[14:51] <hyper_ch> s/gd/dg/
[14:51] <lordievader> There is.
[14:51] <lordievader> Networking is simple linux networking. Whatever you want.
[14:52] <hyper_ch> then you should be able to see other machines
[14:52] <hyper_ch> works fine with vbox :)
[14:52] <lordievader> BluesKaj probably used NAT  (default) rather than a bridge connection.
[14:53] <BluesKaj> anyway I dual boot W7 and kubuntu 15.104 on the laptop and that's fine for my needs
[14:53] <hyper_ch> with kvm, can you have the vm in a window or something?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> lordievader, no, I did try a bridged setup, still no luck
[15:12] <lordievader> hyper_ch: You connect through vnc or spice.
[15:13] <hyper_ch> the spice must flow
[16:21] <penguin42> some of the qemu builds also support qtk or SDL2 windows - not sure if the ubuntu builds are configuredlike that
[16:22] <hyper_ch> what's sdl2?
[16:23] <hyper_ch> the nice things about vbox is bi-directional clipboard
[16:23] <lordievader> Spice supports clipboard stuff, I thought.
[16:26] <penguin42> yeh I think spice can do the clipboard stuff
[16:26] <penguin42> hyper_ch: it's just a graphics library
[16:27] <penguin42> yeh the ubuntu qemu can just run a local window without either spice or vnc
[16:33] <hyper_ch> I juse use vbox :)
[19:13] <drhalan> hey i want to use overlayfs in wily. is there anything special i need to enable. mount always tells me "unknown filesystem type overlayfs "
[19:13] <drhalan> overlay or overlayfs also doesn't show up in /proc/filesystems
[19:17] <penguin42> drhalan: try a modprobe overlayfs
[19:17] <penguin42> drhalan: actually, no, modprobe overlay
[19:18] <drhalan> that works thanks?
[19:18] <drhalan> i installed overlayroot. is that package needed?
[19:19]  * penguin42 doesn't know - never used it
[19:21] <drhalan> oh okay
[19:21] <drhalan> do you know what the difference between 'overlay" and “overlayfs" is? both shows up in my /proc/filesystems now
[19:23] <penguin42> no, don't know - I noticed that the kernel module is called overlay.ko although in the overlayfs directory