[00:00] <daftykins> ly cheap?
[00:00] <daftykins> :D
[00:00] <ali1234> yes
[00:00] <ali1234> i mean it's not a top end phone or anything but it's not crap
[00:00] <ali1234> it's better than a top teir phone from 3 years ago
[00:01] <ali1234> if it had AOSP instead of hacked about manufacturer nonsense it would be even better
[00:03] <daftykins> nah that sounds pretty good, it's quite close to what these samsung galaxy s3's i fixed are
[00:25] <ali1234> windows is booting :)
[00:26] <ali1234> taking it's time tho
[00:30] <daftykins> classic server2003 on ghetto hardware i guess
[00:31] <daftykins> with the new board it might end up taking a while reinstalling every component too XD
[00:33] <ali1234> i think that is what it's doing
[00:33] <ali1234> the hardware isn't "bad" tho
[00:33] <ali1234> it's dual CPU, 1GB
[00:33] <ali1234> which is pretty good for 2003
[00:39] <daftykins> ouch at that RAM
[00:41] <ali1234> it's booted and i don't have the password, so now i can't shut it down
[00:46] <zmoylan-pi> and it's barely saturday \o/
[00:48] <daftykins> ali1234: will you ever see that 'engineer' again?
[00:49] <daftykins> it's just in time for 10 days left of Server 2003 support!
[00:49] <ali1234> never saw him in the first place
[00:49] <ali1234> and yeah they already bought a new server
[00:49] <ali1234> this one died the day before they were due to switch over
[00:49] <zmoylan-pi> nice timing
[00:49] <ali1234> people don't tend to come to me until someone else has already messed up really bad
[00:50] <daftykins> lol
[00:50] <ali1234> how am i supposed to turn this thing off?
[00:50] <daftykins> ACPI shutdown?
[00:50] <zmoylan-pi> there's a shutdown option at password isn't there?
[00:51] <ali1234> it's greyed
[00:51] <daftykins> not on DCs
[00:51] <ali1234> ACPI shutdown either doesn't work or takes a reallllly long time
[00:51] <ali1234> the HDs are going mad but it doesn't seem to be doing anything
[00:51] <zmoylan-pi> a windows server just starting? thundering herd
[00:52] <daftykins> keep waiting :)
[00:52] <ali1234> it;s so hot in here tho
[00:52] <daftykins> hehehe
[00:52] <daftykins> same, i should power off this windows 10 box
[01:21] <ali1234> still not shut down... still churning
[01:22] <zmoylan-pi> might just be running a disk check after wonky shutdown on old motherboard?
[01:25] <ali1234> omg... "google now launcher"
[01:25] <ali1234> just install it... makes your phone not suck :)
[01:31] <ali1234> i just need the AOSP lock screen now
[01:33] <daftykins> who fancies a challenge?
[01:33] <daftykins> "It's currently powering up fine. But if I unplug it from power for awhile and then plug it back in, it won't power up. If I leave it unplugged for a day or so and plug it back in, it'll power up."
[01:33] <daftykins> a mates LCD which has an external brick adapter, giving a consistent voltage (so is assumed working fine)
[01:35] <zmoylan-pi> heat?
[01:35] <ali1234> capacitors
[01:36] <daftykins> heat shouldn't be an issue, it lives in his basement :D apparently the caps all look ok, most are tiny little ones i think he said
[01:37] <ali1234> they can look okay and still be bad
[01:37] <ali1234> there's nothing else that can fail
[01:37] <ali1234> you could try a different power supply
[01:38] <daftykins> makes sense, thanks! i'll pass it on
[01:41] <ali1234> also don't assume that the power supply is fine because you tested it under no load
[01:44] <daftykins> very true, that
[01:44] <ali1234> ooo here comes thunder
[01:47] <ali1234> hmm big flash of lightning there
[01:48] <daftykins> :D
[01:48] <daftykins> i loved a good storm, until i had that flooding the other day
[01:49] <ali1234> last time it properly rained here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CoZ2kwu-eY
[01:50] <zmoylan-pi> growing up is the difference between your reaction to snow as a kid and snow as an adult...
[01:53] <shauno> we had some great rain here yesterday, while the rest of the internet was whining about their heatwave
[01:56] <daftykins> ali1234: erk!
[02:03] <daftykins> mmm i do like these digitalocean VPSs
[02:30] <diddledan> \o/
[02:33] <daftykins> :D
[02:54] <shauno> I think I've given up on sleep
[02:55] <daftykins> good man, join us!
[03:06] <shauno> it's everything I thought it'd be :)
[03:07] <shauno> so, ARIN figure they've got about enough blocks left for the next 2-4 weeks.  fun times.
[03:08] <daftykins> hahaha
[03:08] <daftykins> time to NAT all the things
[03:09] <diddledan> CGN is evil
[03:09] <shauno> they've already started moving people to the 'waiting list' if they're approved for a block that's bigger than they can provide
[03:10] <daftykins> cats grasping nunchuks?
[03:10] <shauno> carrier-grade NAT
[03:10] <shauno> (nat at the isp instead of the enduser)
[03:11] <diddledan> I've just tonight restarted my tunnelbroker connection
[03:11] <daftykins> ah
[03:11] <shauno> I should go nag UPC again sometime
[03:11] <shauno> they kept saying summer 2013.  sometime last year they took the '2013' bit out the FAQ so it just said 'summer'
[03:12] <daftykins> lol
[03:12] <diddledan> haha
[03:12] <diddledan> who cares which summer, they're thinking.
[03:12] <shauno> oh no, it has changed
[03:12] <shauno> Liberty Global/UPC are in the process of implementing IPV6 and will be done in 2014.
[03:12] <diddledan> not long to go then
[03:13] <shauno> that's only a year away ;)
[03:13] <daftykins> quick, back to the future!
[03:14] <shauno> don't go back!  I've decided going backwards would be terrible
[03:15] <shauno> it'd be like .. you get the results for the lottery.  and then win the lottery.  and then buy the ticket.
[03:15] <shauno> by the 'end' of it you're one pound richer because you haven't bought the ticket yet
[03:17] <daftykins> :)
[03:17] <daftykins> but you get to go out as a pleasurable moment.
[03:17] <shauno> I keep winning the lottery.  it's horrible
[03:18] <daftykins> all you win is more tickets?
[03:18] <shauno> I keep winning a fiver, but not often enough that I'm actually coming out ahead
[03:18] <shauno> but when you wake up and find you have an email telling you you've won, it doesn't say how much you've won
[03:19] <shauno> so you get out of bed, go login to their site, it still doesn't tell you, you have to go dig it up and then it finally tells you .. 5 quid
[03:19] <shauno> I think if it just said "well done, you've won a fiver" in the email I'd be happy.  like finding money in your pants when you do laundry
[03:20] <daftykins> :)
[03:20] <shauno> but because it drags you though the whole "sooo do I go to work or not?" thought process, by time you find the actual number you're just disappointed
[03:23] <shauno> and this is why I can't sleep at 4am.  my head gets way too caught up in stuff that really, truely doesn't matter
[03:37] <daftykins> i'm learning about chainrings!
[03:38] <daftykins> BCD or bolt circular diameter was a new one to me
[03:41] <shauno> chain rings?
[03:41] <daftykins> yeah the front sprockets on a bike
[03:41] <daftykins> need to replace my whole drivetrain
[03:42] <ali1234> yay password crackers
[03:42] <ali1234> i finally turned it off
[03:43] <ali1234> now my ears are ringing
[03:43] <shauno> ahh
[03:43] <daftykins> you pinched a hash from disk and went to town on it?
[03:43] <ali1234> yeah
[03:43] <shauno> I have to replace something stupid on mine, which is annoying.  especially since it looks like I'll spend more on tools than parts
[03:43] <daftykins> ah, i wonder if you can do the wonderful windows 7 method
[03:44] <daftykins> boot liveCD, replace the accessibility program which runs on the login screen with cmd.exe
[03:44] <daftykins> press shift or something a few times to run the accessibility helper, cmd runs as SYSTEM... hurrah \o/
[03:44] <daftykins> :)
[03:44] <ali1234> couldn't do any of that without rebooting.. couldn't reboot without the password
[03:44] <daftykins> shauno: hmm what part?
[03:44] <ali1234> i got the hashes from the disk image i took previously
[03:44] <daftykins> eh i'd have mashed reset
[03:44] <daftykins> ah handy :D
[03:45] <ali1234> then it will sulk next time i boot
[03:45] <shauno> the bottom ... bracket?
[03:45] <daftykins> the insert between the cranks? ah, is it grinding?
[03:45] <shauno> nah, it's absolutely fine.  pristine even.
[03:45]  * daftykins blinks
[03:46] <shauno> I've chewed the living familyfriendly out of the shaft that goes through it.  and it's some sealed/integrated job so the whole thing goes with it
[03:46] <daftykins> erk
[03:47] <daftykins> my MTB runs this funky shimano hollowtech tech, you can peer right through the centre of the bottom bracket from either side :D
[03:48] <shauno> that kinda sounds like a haven for crud?
[03:48] <daftykins> not seen anything in mine
[03:48] <shauno> cool
[03:49] <shauno> mine's just .. I replaced the crank because that was chewed up.  and the bolt that sorta held it on, since I'd threaded it so badly you'd never have known it was a bolt
[03:49] <daftykins> but yeah, not changed it since i bought this bike in 2008 - sooo yep new one time :D
[03:49] <daftykins> hahaha
[03:49] <shauno> and 2 weeks later it's falling off again
[03:50] <daftykins> i've never actually done any of this business, but my mate knows a lot about it and has offered to help
[03:50] <shauno> heh, me neither.  but I figure it can't be that difficult
[03:50] <shauno> I learn from mistakes, and I'm making lots of mistakes, so it'll sort itself out eventually
[03:51] <daftykins> definitely :)
[03:51] <daftykins> i'd like to work out how to bleed my brakes properly, but i see the container of hydraulic fluid has spilt inside my repair kits' box
[03:51] <shauno> it just means it's pretty much unusable for now, because my wrench doesn't fit this crank, so when it falls off this time, it's off for good
[03:52] <shauno> (I don't have a socket that's big enough for the bolt, but small enough to fit in the recess the bolt lives in)
[03:54] <daftykins> annoying the way tools can be like that :>
[04:02] <daftykins> good laaaaaawd it costs £31.49 for a _single_ chainring
[04:08] <shauno> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00TFD6C78/   seems I need that spikey thing in the middle.  that's not too bad
[04:11] <daftykins> http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/uc/en/park-tool-bottom-bracket-tool-bbt22/rp-prod17704
[04:11] <daftykins> same as that perhaps
[04:11] <daftykins> and i think CRC are in Ireland :)
[04:13] <daftykins> ah Belfast
[04:14] <shauno> bloody hell.  they want e24 just for that part
[04:15] <daftykins> ah must be me viewing the lovely rockdweller tax free edition
[04:16] <shauno> I mean, spot the difference .. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00FR24JVC/
[04:16] <daftykins> "material: metal"
[04:16] <daftykins> ah yeah, likely story
[04:16] <daftykins> :>
[04:16] <shauno> heh, yeah :)
[04:17] <shauno> not that fussed, I'll lose it long before I need it again
[04:18] <daftykins> that's the spirit!
[04:19] <shauno> anyway, I should go hop in the shower quick so I don't offend anyone at work
[04:19] <shauno> (well, not unintentionally anyway)
[04:19] <daftykins> non-verbally ;)
[04:20] <shauno> I got told off last week, for calling my manager "you know, the wee man that sits in the corner"
[04:22] <daftykins> hrmm that seems a mild one!
[04:30] <shauno> I wasn't actually trying to annoy.  I am genuinely hopeless with names
[04:30] <shauno> I have more than once got in a taxi, stone cold sober, and realised I can't remember the name of my street.
[04:31] <shauno> I've also called my gf "thingie" in conversation with her fmaily :/
[04:32] <diddledan> lol
[04:32] <diddledan> I'll bet they loved that
[04:32] <shauno> her bother picks up on it, but most of them have next to no english, so I get a pass on a lot of things
[04:32] <diddledan> \o/
[04:33] <shauno> although he has his moments too.  he once got the words 'cottage' and 'cabbage' confused, and gave me the most perplexing set of directions to a mountain cabbage
[04:33] <shauno> we didn't have the heart to tell him
[04:36] <daftykins> :D
[04:36] <daftykins> and the meal was great?
[04:37] <shauno> it was.  funny enough I had cabbage soup.  because it was the only word on the menu I recognised.
[04:37] <shauno> kapustnica :)
[04:38] <diddledan> yey for slowotsits
[04:38] <shauno> I know beer, potato, cabbage, cabbage soup, ladybird, and station.
[04:38] <diddledan> silly russian derivative!
[04:38] <shauno> pretty much any other word I try to learn leaves my head rather quickly
[04:39] <shauno> oh, and brewery.  pivovar.
[04:40] <shauno> oh, and my favourite "translation" ever.  hamandex.
[04:40] <shauno> the word for ham is not 'ham'.  the word for eggs is not 'ex'.  but when their powers combine, they become hamandex.
[04:51] <daftykins> XD
[05:16] <diddledan> m00
[05:19] <daftykins> i should not be here.
[05:20] <diddledan> yeah, might be time for a snooze
[05:39] <mapp> this mr robot sems ok:D
[05:39] <mapp> seems
[05:43] <daftykins> ah a wild mapp
[05:43] <daftykins> mapp: setup a digitalocean VPS in London and config'd OpenVPN, got it going from PC + phone
[05:43] <daftykins> you can put all the files into a single .ovpn file which is nice
[05:44] <mapp> yep
[05:44] <mapp> got mine in an ovpn file;D
[05:44] <daftykins> ^_^
[05:44] <mapp> you using inline certs then?
[05:44] <daftykins> well i gen'd the files with easy-rsa then pasted their content into xml tags at the end of a sample client file
[05:44] <mapp> ah
[05:45] <mapp> you checked this mr robot?
[05:45] <daftykins> don't know what that is
[05:45] <mapp> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4158110/
[05:45] <mapp> chck it
[05:46] <daftykins> oh that, thought it was a film for some reason the other day
[05:47] <daftykins> i think i have it in a list of IMDb things to check out
[05:47] <mapp> ;]
[06:36] <daftykins> alright, £132 blown on bike parts, time to sleep!
[06:40] <shauno> night!
[09:25] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:38] <MooDoo> morning
[09:39] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[09:57] <popey> O_O
[10:04] <brobostigon> woop, we get a break from the tennis on the bbc today, :)
[10:04] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: you get cycling on ITV instead xD
[10:04] <brobostigon> alittle anyway.
[10:04] <MartijnVdS> they're starting from half an hour away
[10:04] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: and F1.
[10:05] <brobostigon> silverstone is just down the road from me.
[10:29] <bigcalm> directhex: you about?
[10:29] <directhex> maybe
[10:30] <bigcalm> Looking to upgrade the gfx card in my system. Currently it's a GeForce GTX 660 OEM. Been a long time since I've looked at cards, so don't know what to check
[10:31] <bigcalm> The system is an Alienware X51, so very limited on space. Replacing the card with one that takes the same space would be ideal
[10:31] <bigcalm> Do you have any suggestions?
[10:33] <bigcalm> Huh, just seen that the gtx 660 isn't exactly a cheap card to begin with.
[10:35] <bigcalm> Maybe http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nvidia-GeForce-Graphics-GDDR5-PCI-Express/dp/B00ICUGOP0 will do
[10:36] <directhex> bigcalm: let me check the length on the stock 660
[10:37] <directhex> looks like you havr around 240mm to play with
[10:37] <popey> oooh
[10:38] <directhex> bigcalm: seems you have space for a 960 or 970.
[10:38] <bigcalm> I've just ordered a 16gb kit from crucial. Will see if I still want to replace the gfx card later
[10:38] <directhex> but not the stock 970, only a couple of vendor-cooler models
[10:39] <bigcalm> Crikey
[10:40] <directhex> http://www.gigabyte.eu/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5252#ov or https://www.asus.com/uk/Graphics_Cards/GTX970DCMOC4GD5/ or http://www.galax.net/US/970oc.html will deffo fit
[10:40] <directhex> and any 960
[10:42] <bigcalm> I'm going to crack the case to see what's actually available
[10:43] <bigcalm> directhex: thanks. Good to know that there are options
[10:44] <directhex> pcpartpicker's filter includes length as a parameter
[10:49] <popey> that 750 looks neato
[10:49] <popey> better than my 460
[10:53]  * bigcalm returns
[10:53] <bigcalm> Yeah, no more room to play with
[10:53] <bigcalm> That card is big and the case is compact
[10:55] <directhex> those 3 cards are MUCH smaller than your existing one
[10:55] <bigcalm> I see
[10:58] <bigcalm> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/t4d2e21rsi6ifuc/AACf7V7JzqmInrt8dPqWEtE_a
[11:00] <bigcalm> So I guess they will fit into the caddy
[11:01] <bigcalm> directhex: do you rate any manufacturer over others? I keep seeing you rant on twitter ;)
[11:02] <directhex> hm, i wonder if *height* is an issue with that caddy
[11:02] <bigcalm> The cards can't take more than 2 slots worth of space...
[11:03] <directhex> that's width :p
[11:03] <bigcalm> Humm
[11:03] <bigcalm> Okay
[11:04] <directhex> you're gonna have to get out a tapemeasure
[11:04] <bigcalm> But I just put the machine back together </grumble>
[11:05] <bigcalm> Those two leads marked 1 and 2. Are they extra power that the pci-e slot can't deliver or just to drive the fans?
[11:05] <penguin42> heck, that card is bigger than some computers
[11:08] <directhex> bigcalm: the former
[11:08] <bigcalm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0f6U7bQgx4
[11:08]  * bigcalm sticks with the fitted card
[11:09] <bigcalm> Doubling my ram is a good step forwards
[11:12] <bigcalm> Fitting a 970 SC into an X51 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVi9puLG00A
[11:19] <bigcalm> And with that, time for breakfast
[11:22] <popey> oh man, sam is now super happy, just shared my steam library with him via home sharing
[11:23] <bigcalm> Can you stop him streaming gta v?
[11:36] <popey> its not streaming, it's actually playing locally
[11:36] <popey> but I dunno, probably.
[11:36] <popey> it's a windows box with multiple logins, logged in as him and set him up his own steam account
[11:36] <popey> as soon as he started steam it found the local games and if he tries to start them it offers to request access from me
[11:36] <popey> i get an email and approved, job done
[11:37] <bigcalm> Cool
[11:37] <popey> yeah, it's nicely done
[11:37] <bigcalm> I now have gigabit lan over power, so my eventual steam link box should be a happy experience
[11:39] <popey> nice!
[11:39] <popey> I quite fancy a steam box under the telly, steam link would probably be enough if the windows box is powered on
[11:40] <MartijnVdS> my laptop is "Agent collctn; in transt to UPS facility"
[11:40] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[11:41] <bigcalm> popey: On directhex's pimping, I went for the box from Game which includes the steam controller: http://www.game.co.uk/en/steam-link-with-steam-controller-and-20-steam-wallet-top-up-bundle-only-at-game-658623
[11:51] <popey> cheaper on steam itself
[11:52] <popey> http://store.steampowered.com/bundle/23/
[11:58] <knightwise> ²its too hard to think today
[11:58] <knightwise> too hot
[12:03] <bigcalm> popey: same price in essanse. The Game one includes 20 quid of steam credit
[12:12] <bigcalm> Time to reboot to GameOS and continue to level up in GTA V
[12:12] <bigcalm> The online races are really fun
[13:31] <popey> bigcalm: i lost everything when i re-installed my windows box, so my GTA5 progress is all back to start
[13:31] <popey> I thought steam would save all that :(
[13:32] <m0nkey_> popey, only if the game supports the steam cloud, which gta5 doesn't afaik
[13:33] <popey> :(
[13:33] <popey> kinda annoyed at that
[13:35] <directhex> popey: valve charge £7 per item for delivery
[13:35] <popey> ah
[13:36] <directhex> popey: so it's £94 for link & controller from valve, £100 for link & controller & £20 of steam wallet credit from game
[13:37] <m0nkey_> how much?!
[13:50] <popey> Hmm, sam was logged into steam on his windows account, I switched user to mine, and now my windows account has sam logged in
[16:14] <knightwise> silly question , but how do you clone a git repository again ?
[16:15] <knightwise> i would like to install this little gem http://cortex.glacicle.org/#install
[16:16] <knightwise> ah ! gotit !
[16:23] <m0nkey_> git clone http://path.to/project.git
[22:51]  * zmoylan-pi puts on tonights movie choice... airplane!
[22:52] <MooDoo> evening all
[22:52] <penguin42> hey
[22:54] <daftykins> :)
[22:54] <daftykins> \o
[22:55] <penguin42>  /
[22:57] <ChunkzZ> no
[23:00] <penguin42> talking of no, how did the greeks end up with Nai for yes, that would be confusing for scots
[23:00] <diddledan> morning
[23:35] <daftykins> mmm they sound totally flipped
[23:35] <daftykins> and something akin to 'Ohee' for no
[23:37] <penguin42> yes, I'm not sure how that's supposed to be read
[23:39] <daftykins> kinda like the 'o' in shop, very quick, then 'he' as opposed to 'she'
[23:47] <penguin42> ah useful to know
[23:48] <daftykins> :D
[23:48] <daftykins> i had a good friend in Uni halls from Greece
[23:48] <penguin42> especially since I'm probably meeting 3 greeks on Monday
[23:48] <daftykins> ooh neat
[23:48] <daftykins> then you get to greet them a kali meera/speera/nichta or some such :D
[23:48] <daftykins> (that's the sum total of all i know)