| Kilos | morning theblazehen and others | 07:37 |
|---|---|---|
| mazal | Mornings all | 07:39 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 07:39 |
| mazal | Gaanit oom ? | 07:40 |
| Kilos | hi Cryterion | 07:40 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:40 |
| Kilos | dink nog daaroor en jy | 07:40 |
| mazal | lol | 07:40 |
| mazal | Okerig dankie. | 07:40 |
| mazal | Backup eta nou op 18 hours | 07:41 |
| Kilos | wow | 07:41 |
| Kilos | se dankie vir eskom | 07:41 |
| mazal | Looks like it is really gonna take more than 1 day | 07:41 |
| Kilos | something wrong there man | 07:41 |
| mazal | Nah is normal for 100mb , my router is the weak link , it's lan is 100mb , not 1Gb | 07:42 |
| Kilos | oh ok not direct connection | 07:42 |
| mazal | Nope , stupid OS to Ubuntu server over lan | 07:42 |
| mazal | I have a 1Gb switch , but don't have a spare power plug and space for it to stand , so sommer use the router's lan ports | 07:44 |
| Kilos | i was impressed with the speed through a switch | 07:45 |
| * mazal checks the day's agenda | 07:45 | |
| mazal | eat - play - eat again - play again - check backup progress - play further | 07:46 |
| mazal | I love winter agendas :) | 07:46 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:57 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:35 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 08:35 |
| inetpro | mazal: what's the size of your backup? | 08:35 |
| Kilos | 1.2TB | 08:36 |
| mazal | Morning Inetpro , 1.2TB | 08:36 |
| inetpro | and the connection speed? | 08:37 |
| mazal | 100Mb | 08:39 |
| inetpro | hmm... at a maximum of 100Mbps you can expect it to take at least 25.4 hours | 08:40 |
| Kilos | wow | 08:40 |
| inetpro | but it'll probably take longer | 08:40 |
| mazal | The estimate when started was 37 hours | 08:41 |
| inetpro | if the slowest link is a 100Mbps you'll probaly get more like 80% of that speed, thus more like >30 hours | 08:42 |
| mazal | Yeah | 08:42 |
| mazal | Fortunately I'm in no rush. Can't continue working until it's finished lol | 08:42 |
| inetpro | ai! | 08:42 |
| Kilos | he doesnt work weekends anyway | 08:43 |
| Kilos | just sleep eat and play | 08:43 |
| Symmetria | sup :P | 08:44 |
| Symmetria | heh, so, for those who are interested | 08:44 |
| Symmetria | http://server.alstonnetworks.net/global-network.png | 08:44 |
| Kilos | hi Symmetria | 08:44 |
| Symmetria | heh, bandwidths arent showing cause that was taken from editor mode | 08:44 |
| inetpro | wb Symmetria | 08:44 |
| Symmetria | but that will show you just how large my network is ;p | 08:44 |
| mazal | Kilos, I actually have a big job waiting | 08:44 |
| mazal | Hi Symmetria | 08:45 |
| Kilos | yay mazal thats good | 08:45 |
| mazal | I have to clean all this data | 08:45 |
| Symmetria | lol, thats what you call a *complicated* network | 08:45 |
| mazal | Need to go through it all dir by dir and see what I actually still need and what can be deleted | 08:45 |
| mazal | Some of this stuff is coming from the 90's | 08:46 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:46 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: interesting diagram | 08:46 |
| Symmetria | haha cleaning my shit up is almost impossible, there is just 2 much of it | 08:46 |
| Symmetria | so now I just accumulate more and add more disk space | 08:46 |
| mazal | Lots of old software and games that doesn't even work anymore | 08:46 |
| Symmetria | ;p | 08:46 |
| inetpro | and looks like you have a few single point of failures even | 08:47 |
| Symmetria | lol, last time I checked I had 1.4 million MP3's | 08:47 |
| mazal | Symmetria, that pretty much somes up my data disk lol | 08:47 |
| mazal | I need to clean this shees | 08:47 |
| Symmetria | inetpro heh very few actually | 08:47 |
| Kilos | your mirror was sick for quite a while Symmetria | 08:48 |
| Symmetria | remember, you arent seeing a client view there, so clients connected to routers that are spured off are most often connected to other routers as well | 08:48 |
| Symmetria | kilos yeah that should have been sorted, had raid issues | 08:48 |
| Symmetria | lol inetpro the scary thing is, almost every link on that picture is 10G | 08:48 |
| Kilos | ah but you didnt tell us man and you werent here either | 08:49 |
| inetpro | nicely squeezed to fit on a single page | 08:49 |
| * Symmetria points at an email client ;p | 08:49 | |
| Symmetria | heh inetpro well, its formatted for a 4K resolution screen | 08:49 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: what software is used to map it out like that? | 08:50 |
| Symmetria | inetpro its cacti with a plugin | 08:51 |
| Symmetria | on the cacti instance it actually live updates every 5 minutes with the traffic levels | 08:51 |
| inetpro | nice! | 08:52 |
| Symmetria | heh scary thing about that map, thats just the backbone | 08:53 |
| Symmetria | there is no human way to fit the whole edge of the network onto a map, because I'd be adding another 2 and a half thousand edge routers/switches to it if I wanted to do that | 08:53 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: what network is this? | 08:54 |
| Symmetria | heh thats the liquid backbone | 08:54 |
| Symmetria | from london all the way to zambia ;p | 08:54 |
| inetpro | interesting | 08:55 |
| Symmetria | heh the major pain in the ass with that mapping stuff | 08:57 |
| Symmetria | is that you have to do the layout manually | 08:57 |
| Symmetria | so you place all your routers, add all your links, and then add via points to the links to route them around stuff etc | 08:57 |
| Symmetria | and then associate the links with cacti graphs | 08:58 |
| Symmetria | it takes *AGES* to put together a map like that | 08:58 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 09:00 |
| magespawn | hi Kilos | 09:01 |
| Symmetria | lol so outta interest | 09:04 |
| Symmetria | I looked at what the month long average of the bandwidth into my house is (actual usage) | 09:04 |
| Symmetria | and I'm living proof that once you get past a certain point, more bandwidth is pointless | 09:04 |
| Symmetria | I run an average of 37mbit/second to my house | 09:05 |
| Symmetria | coupla spikes to like 800 - 900 mbit, but mostly it just ticks away | 09:05 |
| Symmetria | heh, admittedly if you averaging 37mbit, you probably really need at least 100mbit line, but more than that *shrug* no point | 09:05 |
| inetpro | Symmetria: wow, only 37mbps average? | 09:37 |
| inetpro | would be interesting to see that over time as more speed becomes available to the masses | 09:38 |
| magespawn | i have often thought anything fast enough to stream video would suit most | 09:40 |
| * inetpro would be happy with 10mbps without any restrictions | 09:41 | |
| inetpro | thinking about it, Symmetria surely your averages would look much different if you only had a 100mbps line? | 09:45 |
| Symmetria | inetpro lol, possibly, hard to say | 09:46 |
| inetpro | would probably be maxed out all the time | 09:46 |
| inetpro | all depends on how much data you actually transfer on a daily, weekly or monthly basis | 09:48 |
| mazal_ | hmmm... | 11:48 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 12:37 |
| inetpro | . | 12:37 |
| Kilos | Maaz coffee on | 12:37 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 12:37 | |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee please | 12:37 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Yessir | 12:37 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how do we solve our cooking problems? | 12:37 |
| Kilos | what cooking problems inetpro ? | 12:38 |
| inetpro | need some solution for using sustainable energy rather than power or gas | 12:38 |
| Kilos | thats tough | 12:38 |
| Kilos | gas was the alternite but very expensive now | 12:39 |
| inetpro | I think gas is still cheaper | 12:39 |
| Kilos | see if you can find 12v stoves or hotplates | 12:39 |
| inetpro | but not sustainable in the long run | 12:39 |
| Kilos | only way is solar | 12:40 |
| inetpro | how do you store the energy for use later at night | 12:40 |
| Kilos | bateries | 12:40 |
| inetpro | no man | 12:40 |
| Kilos | batteries | 12:40 |
| Kilos | only way | 12:40 |
| inetpro | heat kill batteries very quickly | 12:41 |
| Kilos | i used solar in utrecht | 12:41 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! | 12:41 |
| Kilos | no man solar to charge the batteries | 12:41 |
| Kilos | Maaz ty | 12:41 |
| Maaz | You are welcome Kilos | 12:41 |
| Kilos | http://www.amazon.com/RoadPro-12-Volt-Portable-Stove-Black/dp/B00030DLEE | 12:42 |
| Kilos | https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.olx.co.za%2Fq%2Fcamping%2Fc-808&ei=9dSXVeyaPIiPU5y6gvAE&usg=AFQjCNGlp7HwFxhhJ3kcH5tqM4i9pSgiTQ&bvm=bv.96952980,d.bGg | 12:44 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 12:44 |
| Kilos | https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dometic.co.za%2Fproducts%2Fmobile-kitchen%2Fovens%2F&ei=9dSXVeyaPIiPU5y6gvAE&usg=AFQjCNE0sqIGMjnunMVafuObLkpBk4o-Jg&bvm=bv.96952980,d.bGg | 12:44 |
| Kilos | more sjoe | 12:44 |
| inetpro | hmm... that last link is interesting | 12:46 |
| Kilos | with our lots of sun solar is the wqay to go but outlay isnt min | 12:46 |
| Kilos | when i moved here i had lots of gas stuff and used to buy them big gas bottles and refil my smalll ones myself , but gas got expensive | 12:48 |
| Kilos | we use gas when power out here now. got gas lamps and stoves and smokers etc | 12:52 |
| Kilos | but mainly cook when power is on | 12:53 |
| Kilos | electric still cheaper than gas | 12:53 |
| magespawn | we have a gas stove mainly so that we do not have to think about when we cook etc | 12:54 |
| magespawn | electricity has always been unstable here in hluhluwe | 12:54 |
| inetpro | Kilos: did you read that article I tweeted? | 13:07 |
| inetpro | Elon Musk: The World’s Raddest Man | 13:07 |
| Kilos | nope dont often open twitter | 13:07 |
| inetpro | lot's of food for thought | 13:08 |
| inetpro | http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html | 13:08 |
| inetpro | very long but worth it | 13:08 |
| Kilos | ty | 13:10 |
| Kilos | oh inetpro that tesla power ball is an option for peeps with money | 13:15 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:15 |
| inetpro | power ball? | 13:15 |
| inetpro | s/ball/wall/ | 13:16 |
| Kilos | its a storage system | 13:16 |
| Kilos | Maaz google tesla power ball | 13:16 |
| inetpro | yes, but you mount it on your wall | 13:16 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Tesla Powerwall - Tesla Motors" http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall :: "Press Kit | Tesla Motors" http://www.teslamotors.com/presskit :: "Tesla's Powerwall Is the Latest Step Toward Our Clean-Energy ..." http://singularityhub.com/2015/05/01/teslas-powerwall-is-the-latest-step-toward-our-clean-energy-future/ :: "Elon Musk Debuts the Tesla Powerwall - | 13:16 |
| Maaz | YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKORsrlN-2k :: "Why Tesla's Powerwall Is Just Another T… | 13:16 |
| Kilos | so what | 13:16 |
| inetpro | not ball | 13:16 |
| Kilos | i think one would need 2 or even 3 | 13:17 |
| Kilos | oh that ya | 13:17 |
| inetpro | you can build your own | 13:17 |
| Kilos | yeah but the cost and time to get it as perfect as teslas makes it simpler to buy one | 13:18 |
| Kilos | dont forget you need to buy everything to build one too | 13:18 |
| Kilos | and know exactly how to assemble andset it up | 13:18 |
| Kilos | but 36k is heavy | 13:19 |
| Kilos | the tesla one is the best you can get | 13:20 |
| Kilos | and everything will work, no oops need more cash to try again | 13:20 |
| * inetpro wbbl | 13:21 | |
| nuvolari | o/ oh hi | 13:29 |
| * nuvolari peek out from under the blankets | 13:30 | |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari | 13:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 13:30 |
| nuvolari | hi oom Kilos | 13:30 |
| Kilos | amper tyd om weer te gaan slaap | 13:30 |
| * nuvolari is vrot van die verkoue :( | 13:30 | |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:30 |
| nuvolari | gaan gesond bed toe, staan op met 'n gemors | 13:31 |
| Kilos | ai! | 13:31 |
| nuvolari | hoe gaan dit met oom? | 13:31 |
| Kilos | goed dankie seun | 13:31 |
| nuvolari | dis mooi oom | 13:32 |
| nuvolari | word dit al bietjie warmer daar? | 13:32 |
| Kilos | net al die buntu goed hou my te besig | 13:32 |
| Kilos | nee man dit vrek koud | 13:32 |
| nuvolari | dis nie heeltemal so koud hier nie, maar dis koud | 13:33 |
| Kilos | ja julle minimums is nie so kwaai soos hier nie | 13:34 |
| Kilos | inetpro that was very interesting, quite a man elon musk | 15:38 |
| MaNI | powerwall is like the iphone of batteries, clever move by musk but just riding a new wave of batteries that was coming anyway :p | 16:36 |
| Kilos | are iphones good or bad? | 17:17 |
| Kilos | MaNI ? | 17:18 |
| MaNI | depends on your point of view/preferences, mostly neither, they're just a device that timed what the market was already about to do anyway really well | 17:36 |
| Kilos | aha | 17:36 |
| MaNI | whats known as 'smart phones' now was coming regardless, in the scheme of things the existence of the iphone changed very little - the powerwall is similar | 17:37 |
| MaNI | 'lifepo' type batteries have been coming and is where things are headed anyway, its a smart move by musk and he will probably make a lot selling them to rich people, but it doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things | 17:37 |
| MaNI | thats how I feel about it at least *shrug* | 17:38 |
| Kilos | well getting in first with anything is always good busines | 17:38 |
| Kilos | s | 17:38 |
| MaNI | thats the thing he isn't even first really, there are such things on the market already, as with iphone they weren't really 'first' either | 17:39 |
| MaNI | its just that because its a new market the initial players have not yet done wildly well | 17:39 |
| MaNI | they are the first to have the capital/timing/marketing to take advantage of the new market | 17:40 |
| MaNI | which is of course what matters at the end of the day :p | 17:40 |
| * Cryterion thinks MaNI should refer to a iPhone as an iCrap instead :) | 17:41 | |
| Kilos | well he seems to have been innovated with quite a few things | 17:41 |
| Cryterion | an* | 17:41 |
| MaNI | Cryterion, well I'm trying to remain neutral, I'm not iphone fan but thats not really the point :P | 17:41 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:41 |
| Cryterion | lol | 17:41 |
| Kilos | wb inetpro | 17:42 |
| Cryterion | I just never had any success with mine, failed on charging it's battery like my nokia did | 17:42 |
| MaNI | e.g. http://bosch-solar-storage.com/the-solar-power-storage-tank/the-system/ < predates powerwall | 17:51 |
| Kilos | tell me this tesla car and wall things | 17:52 |
| Kilos | are they in anyway connected to the tesla of old | 17:52 |
| MaNI | no, well other than that they use electricity :P | 17:53 |
| inetpro | thank you oom Kilos | 17:55 |
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| inetpro | . | 19:15 |
| Kilos | .. | 19:20 |
| Kilos | hwhy dont you greet him | 19:21 |
| Kilos | why didnt | 19:21 |
| Trixar_za | Didn't see him? Oo | 19:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:21 |
| Kilos | so how is Trixar_za ? | 19:27 |
| Kilos | did you ans Squirm ever manage to get together there | 19:28 |
| Kilos | s/ans/and | 19:28 |
| Trixar_za | Yeah - once. He's in Durbs for the weekend though | 19:32 |
| Trixar_za | Him and nuvolari tend to hang out more | 19:32 |
| Kilos | yeah i saw | 19:32 |
| Kilos | aha | 19:32 |
| Trixar_za | nuvolari also looks like he's turning into a fitness buff. Always up at like 5am to go for a run. | 19:34 |
| Trixar_za | I should follow his example :P | 19:34 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:34 |
| rusbus | Kilos I'm not a lurker, I'm a working man | 19:37 |
| rusbus | been super busy | 19:38 |
| rusbus | worked today | 19:38 |
| rusbus | will work tomorrow | 19:38 |
| rusbus | will work next weekend | 19:38 |
| rusbus | etc | 19:38 |
| Kilos | excuses | 19:38 |
| rusbus | got home not long ago | 19:38 |
| Kilos | ah ok then i forgive you | 19:38 |
| rusbus | :) | 19:38 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:39 |
| inetpro | good night | 20:00 |
| Kilos | night inetpro sleep tight | 20:01 |
| Kilos | night all, sleep tight | 20:16 |
| mazal_ | Night all | 20:30 |
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