[07:37] morning theblazehen and others [07:39] Mornings all [07:39] hi mazal [07:40] Gaanit oom ? [07:40] hi Cryterion [07:40] hmm... [07:40] dink nog daaroor en jy [07:40] lol [07:40] Okerig dankie. [07:41] Backup eta nou op 18 hours [07:41] wow [07:41] se dankie vir eskom [07:41] Looks like it is really gonna take more than 1 day [07:41] something wrong there man [07:42] Nah is normal for 100mb , my router is the weak link , it's lan is 100mb , not 1Gb [07:42] oh ok not direct connection [07:42] Nope , stupid OS to Ubuntu server over lan [07:44] I have a 1Gb switch , but don't have a spare power plug and space for it to stand , so sommer use the router's lan ports [07:45] i was impressed with the speed through a switch [07:45] * mazal checks the day's agenda [07:46] eat - play - eat again - play again - check backup progress - play further [07:46] I love winter agendas :) [07:57] lol [08:35] good mornings [08:35] hi inetpro [08:35] mazal: what's the size of your backup? [08:36] 1.2TB [08:36] Morning Inetpro , 1.2TB [08:37] and the connection speed? [08:39] 100Mb [08:40] hmm... at a maximum of 100Mbps you can expect it to take at least 25.4 hours [08:40] wow [08:40] but it'll probably take longer [08:41] The estimate when started was 37 hours [08:42] if the slowest link is a 100Mbps you'll probaly get more like 80% of that speed, thus more like >30 hours [08:42] Yeah [08:42] Fortunately I'm in no rush. Can't continue working until it's finished lol [08:42] ai! [08:43] he doesnt work weekends anyway [08:43] just sleep eat and play [08:44] sup :P [08:44] heh, so, for those who are interested [08:44] http://server.alstonnetworks.net/global-network.png [08:44] hi Symmetria [08:44] heh, bandwidths arent showing cause that was taken from editor mode [08:44] wb Symmetria [08:44] but that will show you just how large my network is ;p [08:44] Kilos, I actually have a big job waiting [08:45] Hi Symmetria [08:45] yay mazal thats good [08:45] I have to clean all this data [08:45] lol, thats what you call a *complicated* network [08:45] Need to go through it all dir by dir and see what I actually still need and what can be deleted [08:46] Some of this stuff is coming from the 90's [08:46] sjoe [08:46] Symmetria: interesting diagram [08:46] haha cleaning my shit up is almost impossible, there is just 2 much of it [08:46] so now I just accumulate more and add more disk space [08:46] Lots of old software and games that doesn't even work anymore [08:46] ;p [08:47] and looks like you have a few single point of failures even [08:47] lol, last time I checked I had 1.4 million MP3's [08:47] Symmetria, that pretty much somes up my data disk lol [08:47] I need to clean this shees [08:47] inetpro heh very few actually [08:48] your mirror was sick for quite a while Symmetria [08:48] remember, you arent seeing a client view there, so clients connected to routers that are spured off are most often connected to other routers as well [08:48] kilos yeah that should have been sorted, had raid issues [08:48] lol inetpro the scary thing is, almost every link on that picture is 10G [08:49] ah but you didnt tell us man and you werent here either [08:49] nicely squeezed to fit on a single page [08:49] * Symmetria points at an email client ;p [08:49] heh inetpro well, its formatted for a 4K resolution screen [08:50] Symmetria: what software is used to map it out like that? [08:51] inetpro its cacti with a plugin [08:51] on the cacti instance it actually live updates every 5 minutes with the traffic levels [08:52] nice! [08:53] heh scary thing about that map, thats just the backbone [08:53] there is no human way to fit the whole edge of the network onto a map, because I'd be adding another 2 and a half thousand edge routers/switches to it if I wanted to do that [08:54] Symmetria: what network is this? [08:54] heh thats the liquid backbone [08:54] from london all the way to zambia ;p [08:55] interesting [08:57] heh the major pain in the ass with that mapping stuff [08:57] is that you have to do the layout manually [08:57] so you place all your routers, add all your links, and then add via points to the links to route them around stuff etc [08:58] and then associate the links with cacti graphs [08:58] it takes *AGES* to put together a map like that [09:00] hi magespawn [09:01] hi Kilos [09:04] lol so outta interest [09:04] I looked at what the month long average of the bandwidth into my house is (actual usage) [09:04] and I'm living proof that once you get past a certain point, more bandwidth is pointless [09:05] I run an average of 37mbit/second to my house [09:05] coupla spikes to like 800 - 900 mbit, but mostly it just ticks away [09:05] heh, admittedly if you averaging 37mbit, you probably really need at least 100mbit line, but more than that *shrug* no point [09:37] Symmetria: wow, only 37mbps average? [09:38] would be interesting to see that over time as more speed becomes available to the masses [09:40] i have often thought anything fast enough to stream video would suit most [09:41] * inetpro would be happy with 10mbps without any restrictions [09:45] thinking about it, Symmetria surely your averages would look much different if you only had a 100mbps line? [09:46] inetpro lol, possibly, hard to say [09:46] would probably be maxed out all the time [09:48] all depends on how much data you actually transfer on a daily, weekly or monthly basis [11:48] hmmm... [12:37] hmm... [12:37] . [12:37] Maaz coffee on [12:37] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [12:37] Maaz: coffee please [12:37] inetpro: Yessir [12:37] Kilos: how do we solve our cooking problems? [12:38] what cooking problems inetpro ? [12:38] need some solution for using sustainable energy rather than power or gas [12:38] thats tough [12:39] gas was the alternite but very expensive now [12:39] I think gas is still cheaper [12:39] see if you can find 12v stoves or hotplates [12:39] but not sustainable in the long run [12:40] only way is solar [12:40] how do you store the energy for use later at night [12:40] bateries [12:40] no man [12:40] batteries [12:40] only way [12:41] heat kill batteries very quickly [12:41] i used solar in utrecht [12:41] Coffee's ready for Kilos and inetpro! [12:41] no man solar to charge the batteries [12:41] Maaz ty [12:41] You are welcome Kilos [12:42] http://www.amazon.com/RoadPro-12-Volt-Portable-Stove-Black/dp/B00030DLEE [12:44] https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.olx.co.za%2Fq%2Fcamping%2Fc-808&ei=9dSXVeyaPIiPU5y6gvAE&usg=AFQjCNGlp7HwFxhhJ3kcH5tqM4i9pSgiTQ&bvm=bv.96952980,d.bGg [12:44] sjoe [12:44] https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dometic.co.za%2Fproducts%2Fmobile-kitchen%2Fovens%2F&ei=9dSXVeyaPIiPU5y6gvAE&usg=AFQjCNE0sqIGMjnunMVafuObLkpBk4o-Jg&bvm=bv.96952980,d.bGg [12:44] more sjoe [12:46] hmm... that last link is interesting [12:46] with our lots of sun solar is the wqay to go but outlay isnt min [12:48] when i moved here i had lots of gas stuff and used to buy them big gas bottles and refil my smalll ones myself , but gas got expensive [12:52] we use gas when power out here now. got gas lamps and stoves and smokers etc [12:53] but mainly cook when power is on [12:53] electric still cheaper than gas [12:54] we have a gas stove mainly so that we do not have to think about when we cook etc [12:54] electricity has always been unstable here in hluhluwe [13:07] Kilos: did you read that article I tweeted? [13:07] Elon Musk: The World’s Raddest Man [13:07] nope dont often open twitter [13:08] lot's of food for thought [13:08] http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/05/elon-musk-the-worlds-raddest-man.html [13:08] very long but worth it [13:10] ty [13:15] oh inetpro that tesla power ball is an option for peeps with money [13:15] hehe [13:15] power ball? [13:16] s/ball/wall/ [13:16] its a storage system [13:16] Maaz google tesla power ball [13:16] yes, but you mount it on your wall [13:16] Kilos: "Tesla Powerwall - Tesla Motors" http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall :: "Press Kit | Tesla Motors" http://www.teslamotors.com/presskit :: "Tesla's Powerwall Is the Latest Step Toward Our Clean-Energy ..." http://singularityhub.com/2015/05/01/teslas-powerwall-is-the-latest-step-toward-our-clean-energy-future/ :: "Elon Musk Debuts the Tesla Powerwall - [13:16] YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKORsrlN-2k :: "Why Tesla's Powerwall Is Just Another T… [13:16] so what [13:16] not ball [13:17] i think one would need 2 or even 3 [13:17] oh that ya [13:17] you can build your own [13:18] yeah but the cost and time to get it as perfect as teslas makes it simpler to buy one [13:18] dont forget you need to buy everything to build one too [13:18] and know exactly how to assemble andset it up [13:19] but 36k is heavy [13:20] the tesla one is the best you can get [13:20] and everything will work, no oops need more cash to try again [13:21] * inetpro wbbl [13:29] o/ oh hi [13:30] * nuvolari peek out from under the blankets [13:30] hi nuvolari [13:30] lol [13:30] hi oom Kilos [13:30] amper tyd om weer te gaan slaap [13:30] * nuvolari is vrot van die verkoue :( [13:30] ai! [13:31] gaan gesond bed toe, staan op met 'n gemors [13:31] ai! [13:31] hoe gaan dit met oom? [13:31] goed dankie seun [13:32] dis mooi oom [13:32] word dit al bietjie warmer daar? [13:32] net al die buntu goed hou my te besig [13:32] nee man dit vrek koud [13:33] dis nie heeltemal so koud hier nie, maar dis koud [13:34] ja julle minimums is nie so kwaai soos hier nie [15:38] inetpro that was very interesting, quite a man elon musk [16:36] powerwall is like the iphone of batteries, clever move by musk but just riding a new wave of batteries that was coming anyway :p [17:17] are iphones good or bad? [17:18] MaNI ? [17:36] depends on your point of view/preferences, mostly neither, they're just a device that timed what the market was already about to do anyway really well [17:36] aha [17:37] whats known as 'smart phones' now was coming regardless, in the scheme of things the existence of the iphone changed very little - the powerwall is similar [17:37] 'lifepo' type batteries have been coming and is where things are headed anyway, its a smart move by musk and he will probably make a lot selling them to rich people, but it doesn't really change much in the grand scheme of things [17:38] thats how I feel about it at least *shrug* [17:38] well getting in first with anything is always good busines [17:38] s [17:39] thats the thing he isn't even first really, there are such things on the market already, as with iphone they weren't really 'first' either [17:39] its just that because its a new market the initial players have not yet done wildly well [17:40] they are the first to have the capital/timing/marketing to take advantage of the new market [17:40] which is of course what matters at the end of the day :p [17:41] * Cryterion thinks MaNI should refer to a iPhone as an iCrap instead :) [17:41] well he seems to have been innovated with quite a few things [17:41] an* [17:41] Cryterion, well I'm trying to remain neutral, I'm not iphone fan but thats not really the point :P [17:41] lol [17:41] lol [17:42] wb inetpro [17:42] I just never had any success with mine, failed on charging it's battery like my nokia did [17:51] e.g. http://bosch-solar-storage.com/the-solar-power-storage-tank/the-system/ < predates powerwall [17:52] tell me this tesla car and wall things [17:52] are they in anyway connected to the tesla of old [17:53] no, well other than that they use electricity :P [17:55] thank you oom Kilos === qwebirc46405 is now known as yusuf [19:15] . [19:20] .. [19:21] hwhy dont you greet him [19:21] why didnt [19:21] Didn't see him? Oo [19:21] lol [19:27] so how is Trixar_za ? [19:28] did you ans Squirm ever manage to get together there [19:28] s/ans/and [19:32] Yeah - once. He's in Durbs for the weekend though [19:32] Him and nuvolari tend to hang out more [19:32] yeah i saw [19:32] aha [19:34] nuvolari also looks like he's turning into a fitness buff. Always up at like 5am to go for a run. [19:34] I should follow his example :P [19:34] lol [19:37] Kilos I'm not a lurker, I'm a working man [19:38] been super busy [19:38] worked today [19:38] will work tomorrow [19:38] will work next weekend [19:38] etc [19:38] excuses [19:38] got home not long ago [19:38] ah ok then i forgive you [19:38] :) [19:39] hehe [20:00] good night [20:01] night inetpro sleep tight [20:16] night all, sleep tight [20:30] Night all