[00:00] <brmph> moses: don't use it, if you run lxde it will use lxde.
[00:00] <moses> ok
[00:00] <moses> and I can just install ldxe from the software center right?
[00:00] <runinsquares> hey, i've just put ubuntu on a usb stick. if i mount my hdd (windows7) and go back to windows7 afterward i'm left with a c:\.Trash-999 folder that i'm unable to delete in Windows. What is this folder for so I can stop it from appearing on my windows hdd?
[00:00] <brmph> moses: sudo apt-get install lxde   than choose it at the login.
[00:00] <daftykins> runinsquares: it's to put the trash in... it's harmless.
[00:01] <runinsquares> daftykins, so if i delete something on the mount it's going into .Trash-999
[00:01] <daftykins> runinsquares: mount your disk read only in future so it doesn't create it.
[00:01] <daftykins> that's my understanding, yep
[00:01] <runinsquares> daftykins, even if it's harmless it's really kicking in some ocd for me, is there a way i can stop it from re-appearing?
[00:01] <LeEarl> hi
[00:01] <LeEarl> qemu won't start!
[00:01] <daftykins> runinsquares: sounds like you need to calm down :)
[00:02] <daftykins> i've already stated a viable method
[00:02] <runinsquares> ah i didn't see that
[00:02] <moses> wow
[00:02] <moses> this seems like an intense install
[00:02] <moses> im scrared i made the wrong decision
[00:02] <daftykins> runinsquares: see here for more, it was the #1 result from Google - http://askubuntu.com/questions/50761/what-is-the-trash-folder-on-the-ntfs-partitions
[00:03] <runinsquares> if i delete the .Trash-999 folder via terminal after mounting, will it make itself again recursion stylee?
[00:03] <brmph> moses: in installing lxde?
[00:03] <daftykins> that's not what recursion is
[00:03] <moses> brmph: yes
[00:03] <moses> im going to relog
[00:03] <moses> to see
[00:03] <LeEarl> is someone gonna answer me!?!
[00:03] <runinsquares> shift+delete, cool
[00:03] <gygabite> can you install windows 8 from ubuntu without usb boot?
[00:03] <LeEarl> anyone
[00:04] <gygabite> the ubuntu's internet is broke so i'm reinstalling windows 8
[00:04] <gygabite> but the usb boot doesn't work for some reason
[00:04] <gygabite> so can i load the iso file into ubuntu and run it to install it or something? i'm bad at this
[00:04] <daftykins> LeEarl: well you didn't actually ask a question, you made a statement.
[00:04] <brmph> moses: If you want a lighter DE your on the right track.
[00:05] <brmph> !details | LeEarl
[00:05] <LeEarl> dear sirs, gentlemen et al, I installed qemu from the command line but it won't start when type: qemu
[00:05] <daftykins> LeEarl: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138140/how-do-i-install-qemu
[00:05] <gygabite> so, is that possible?
[00:05] <runinsquares> daftykins, ok second question, i couldn't seem to install ubuntu on to my usb and can only run the try-me, which isn't the end of the world because it's a back up OS until i get a unique hdd for linux. however, is it even possible to install directly for usb? if i follow the installation it only lets me select my windows hdd, or some other /dev/sda type stuff which i don't wanna click when i don't know what i'm doing (and want to
[00:05] <runinsquares> avoid dual partition hence no windows)
[00:05] <brmph> LeEarl: You have to have some patience, we ask you wait 10 mins to repost.
[00:06] <runinsquares> did my message get cut off?
[00:06] <daftykins> gygabite: you have a Windows 8 ISO?
[00:06] <gygabite> i downloaded the boot media into a usb from the microsoft website, yes
[00:06] <runinsquares> ah no it's my irc client
[00:06] <runinsquares> good
[00:06] <daftykins> gygabite: is your system EFI boot capable?
[00:06] <gygabite> but when i try to boot from it it just gets stuck on booting
[00:06] <gygabite> no clue what that is but when i press f9 it says something about efi
[00:06] <gygabite> how do i check if it is?
[00:06] <LeEarl> !pastebin
[00:06] <daftykins> runinsquares: yeah you don't want to be installing to USB.
[00:06] <gygabite> i want to replace ubuntu because it's broken
[00:07] <runinsquares> daftykins, alright i'll just keep the try-me for emergencies
[00:07] <daftykins> gygabite: so reinstall it from a flash drive?
[00:07] <LeEarl> gygabite, get windows 10 it gonna be out in coupla weeks.
[00:07] <runinsquares> daftykins, thanks very much for your help :)
[00:07] <daftykins> np
[00:07] <gygabite> i have it on legacy mode because that's the only way i can get ubuntu from it, it won't boot from usb without legacy mode
[00:07] <LeEarl> then become an eternal beta tester for Bill Gates et al(N$A and what have u).
[00:07] <daftykins> gygabite: then you made up the drive badly
[00:07] <gygabite> i can't boot from the usb with windows 8 either, and i need to install it now
[00:08] <daftykins> LeEarl: drop the off topic banter thanks
[00:08] <gygabite> i used microsoft's install media thing
[00:08] <Ben64> gygabite: you should be asking in ##windows for help installing windows
[00:08] <moses> brmph: have you ever used this?
[00:08] <daftykins> gygabite: format the flash drive with a 4GB+ FAT32 volume then paste the ISO contents onto it. enable EFI boot then it will boot.
[00:08] <gygabite> i'm asking about how i can do it from ubuntu without booting from a usb but i'll ask there too
[00:08] <Ben64> gygabite: you can't
[00:09] <daftykins> gygabite: you can't install Windows from inside ubuntu. not even vaguely.
[00:09] <gygabite> how do i enable efi boot? do i only paste in the iso contents?
[00:09] <daftykins> depends on your system, which is it? what kind is it? yes just the ISO contents.
[00:09] <LeEarl> u people r too controlling! u work in the Shabak?
[00:09] <gygabite> and i'm bad at computers, too, sorry if i'm asking too many questions, how do i format it?
[00:09] <daftykins> gygabite: run gparted
[00:10] <gygabite> what
[00:10] <daftykins> run gparted from in ubuntu, it's the name of a program.
[00:10] <gygabite> oh
[00:10] <daftykins> i'm not sure i can be clearer
[00:10] <gygabite> okay
[00:11] <LeEarl> I am gonna do da kretex, bbiaf.
[00:11] <brmph> moses: Have I used LXDE yes. I have installed multi DE I always do.
[00:11] <moses> It seems very light
[00:11] <gygabite> i don't have gparted when i search in ubuntu, and i don't have internet access in the ubuntu
[00:11] <runinsquares> daftykins, earlier on i had a windows folder that couldn't be deleted except by using the ubuntu install. the files were initially put on the windows os via FTP running CentOS, you have any idea what could have caused such a weird problem btw?
[00:12] <brmph> moses: Yeah it is, it is more .config than gui changing is all.
[00:12] <gygabite> is gparted ubuntu? because  have another ubuntu computer that works
[00:12] <daftykins> runinsquares: not after the fact no, but why you would FTP over files onto an NTFS volume is beyond me :)
[00:12] <gygabite> is gparted ubuntu?
[00:13] <runinsquares> daftykins, you have a better suggestion?
[00:13] <daftykins> runinsquares: not since i can't read your mind to understand the task, no
[00:13] <gygabite> i have 15 minutes to download windows on this ;-;
[00:13] <daftykins> gygabite: understand something - your deadline is of no concern to me.
[00:13] <daftykins> nor to anyone here, this is your problem
[00:13] <LeEarl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11818133/
[00:14] <gygabite> i know, but is gparted an ubuntu program, is it on the software center?
[00:14] <daftykins> gygabite: it's already installed, which is why i said to run it
[00:14] <LeEarl> yes
[00:14] <runinsquares> daftykins, server linux -> windows file transfer, i thought SFTP was fine
[00:14] <daftykins> SFTP != FTP
[00:14] <gygabite> if i search gparted it didn't find any matches
[00:15] <daftykins> well whilst you work on that one, i'm gonna go make some food
[00:15] <gygabite> i have 14.04
[00:15] <LeEarl> gygabite, it is in system tools menu
[00:15] <runinsquares> daftykins, FTP as in the software, but i see where you are coming from, i will be clearer in future :)
[00:15] <LeEarl> or in the search box [O] type gparted it will brings its icon.
[00:15] <daftykins> no FTP is a protocol
[00:16] <squinty> gygabite,  gparted is not installed during the main install.  use the software center or apt-get to install it
[00:16] <moses> how do you change the background color
[00:16] <LeEarl> runinsquares, is runsintriangle your cousin?
[00:16] <gygabite> i'll use the other laptop then
[00:16] <daftykins> LeEarl: i think you want to install aqemu given your pastebin shows you didn't read my link
[00:16] <runinsquares> LeEarl, is there a runsintriangle?
[00:16] <daftykins> gygabite: which OS is on that system?
[00:17] <LeEarl> aqemu is already the newest version.
[00:17] <squinty> gygabite,  if you have a livedvd/usb then gparted is included on it
[00:17] <daftykins> LeEarl: so run that, it's a GUI program that'll help you boot whatever that ISO is you're playing with
[00:17] <LeEarl> it crashed
[00:18] <daftykins> is qemu-x86 installed?
[00:18] <LeEarl> I just wanna run an iso of a bootable os.
[00:18] <daftykins> er qemu-system-x86
[00:18] <daftykins> ok well you're failing spectacularly :) carry on
[00:18] <LeEarl> yes I did install on all qemu*
[00:18] <LeEarl> yeah it is always the user, the devs r innoCENT!
[00:18] <daftykins> then run aqemu in the terminal and see if it shows any errors.
[00:19] <daftykins> LeEarl: i'm not a dev, this is a channel of volunteers.
[00:19] <LeEarl> ok
[00:19] <LeEarl> ok
[00:21] <LeEarl> man this is gonna take lotsa time. :/
[00:21]  * LeEarl is working on AqemuING!
[00:21] <Voov> hey guys im having an issue right now where i cant click anything
[00:21] <Voov> but i can navigate with my keyboard
[00:22] <Voov> any idea on what could be causing this issue? it goes away when i log off/on
[00:23] <bodhi_zazen> battery?
[00:23] <brmph> Voov: You have a second mouse for a blind comparison?
[00:24] <bodhi_zazen> 3 blind mice ...
[00:24]  * squinty starts humming "three blind mice"
[00:25] <squinty> lol
[00:25] <brmph> heh
[00:25] <Attox>  /join #python
[00:26] <gygabite> i looked at the contents of the windows usb, there is setup.exe, can i run that inside ubuntu? again, sorry if i'm asking stupid questions
[00:26] <LeEarl> I thought it was three wise men!
[00:26] <moses> I dont like how the terminal looks in xdce
[00:26] <gygabite> gonna continue this in the windows irc
[00:26] <Attox> you need to boot from the USB stick if you want to install windows gygabite
[00:26] <LeEarl> moses where is aaron?
[00:27] <moses> hmmm?
[00:27] <bazhang> LeEarl, save the chat for elsewhere
[00:27] <gygabite> it's not letting me boot from it, it freezes on startup with the message "press esc to startup menu" or something similar, if i press esc it does nothing
[00:27] <LeEarl> Shwartz
[00:27] <bodhi_zazen> moses, use a different terminal :)
[00:27] <moses> can i get the unity terminal?
[00:27] <gygabite> and i also have no internet connection on it
[00:29] <moses> I think i might try gnome
[00:29] <Attox> but you get the windows installer, right?
[00:29] <moses> how much lighter is lxde than gnome?
[00:29] <gygabite> no, i don't get anything
[00:29] <daftykins> gygabite: i already told you what to do.
[00:29] <gygabite> it just freezes on that screen
[00:29] <brmph> moses: You will find with the lighter the desktop less gui control in general, it will be in most cases you use a text file to do changes.
[00:30] <daftykins> gygabite: so, which OS is on the working system?
[00:30] <gygabite> i know, is the iso file inside the bootable usb?
[00:30] <moses> brmph: I hate how this terminal looks
[00:30] <moses> in lxde
[00:30] <moses> but it seems much lighter
[00:30] <moses> than unity
[00:30] <moses> but I cant really tell
[00:30] <daftykins> gygabite: focus.
[00:30] <gygabite> ubuntu 14.04 is on the working system, same exact computer, same exact everything but the internet on this one isn't working for some reason
[00:30] <moses> is gnome heavier than this?
[00:30] <brmph> moses: Get your google foo in order you will need it if you want to get things done. ;)
[00:31] <gygabite> is the iso file inside the bootable usb?
[00:31] <daftykins> *facepalm*
[00:31] <squinty> gygabite, both have same networking and wifi cards.  could be your second one has a broadcom wifi
[00:31] <gygabite> yes, both have broadcom and i followed the instructions but nothing worked, and right now i'm focused on installing windows on it because i have to
[00:31] <moses> brmph: im on it son
[00:32] <brmph> moses: Heh, I'm and old man.
[00:32] <daftykins> gygabite: do you see /efi/boot/bootx64.efi on the flash drive?
[00:32] <gygabite> and again, sorry for the stupid questions daftykins, i'm not that advanced in this
[00:32] <jmadero> moses: what are you expecting in these questions? "how much ligher"....10x ligher? 100x faster?
[00:32] <squinty> gygabite,  you should be asking in a windows related support area not here for windows installs :-)
[00:32] <jmadero> I'm sure there are blogs somewhere with benchmarks
[00:32] <bazhang> gygabite, ##windows for windows installation NOT here
[00:32] <gygabite> daftykins: yes
[00:32] <daftykins> gygabite: as long as you respond to my questions and stop repeating yourself we'll be set.
[00:32] <moses> jmadero: people are very experienced on here
[00:32] <jmadero> moses: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_mint17_desktops&num=1
[00:32] <daftykins> gygabite: ok, so enable EFI on this system by entering the BIOS after power on (possibly with the key F2, delete or F12... something like that) and finding the option.
[00:33] <daftykins> back in 10
[00:33] <bazhang> moses lubuntu is lighter, try it and seen
[00:33] <jmadero> moses: looks like that has exactly what you're looking to get
[00:33] <gygabite> okay going into bios
[00:33] <jmadero> benchmarks on Mint of lots of DE's
[00:33] <brmph> moses: I would agree lubuntu, you have most of it with lxde already.
[00:34] <jmadero> moses: if you're going for "lightest" I think Enlightenment hits that mark
[00:34] <jmadero> a bit of a learning curve but it's pretty sweet (IMHO)
[00:34] <brmph> I've used it, it is a nice DE
[00:35] <gygabite> i can't find an EFI option
[00:35] <jmadero> I use it most of the time ;) it is nice, and fast
[00:35] <Ben64> gygabite: again, ask ##windows for help installing windows
[00:36] <moses> I feel like its not even using less battery than unity
[00:37] <jmadero> moses: the screen eats most of the battery so you aren't going to see huge gains in battery life from changing DE
[00:38] <moses> dammit
[00:38] <moses> that is just terrible
[00:38] <daftykins> gygabite: look for legacy or CSM and disable/toggle it
[00:38] <jmadero> moses: if you have a smart phone just look at what eats up the battery - you'll see pretty quick it's the screen
[00:38] <daftykins> gygabite: also try the save/exit page and look for 'load defaults for secure boot' / '...EFI'
[00:39] <gygabite> i enabled legacy because without legacy i couldn't install ubuntu, so i disable that?
[00:39] <gygabite> okay
[00:39] <jmadero> moses: you can underclock a bit with cpu scaling which might help a little
[00:39] <jmadero> dim the screen a lot
[00:39] <bazhang> gygabite, stop asking here
[00:40] <gygabite> this is just general bios talk at this point
[00:40] <gygabite> but okay
[00:40] <daftykins> that was unnecessary.
[00:41] <jmadero> daftykins: you'll be next ;)
[00:42] <daftykins> wouldn't be surprised!
[00:42] <jmadero> is there a way to see what's preventing my system from turning screen off (turns off about 50% of the time)
[00:42] <daftykins> screen the display or screen the app?
[00:43] <jmadero> screen the display (like my screen going to sleep)
[00:43] <jmadero> really inconsistent behavior - sucks when I go to bed and the screen never turns off....have to climb out and go downstairs at 2am with wife grumpy about the light :-b
[00:45] <DanShark> LS
[00:46] <DanShark> sorry.
[00:56] <kakarotoanderson> ola
[00:56] <jdos3> hello
[00:57] <kakarotoanderson> brasileiro na linha
[00:57] <kakarotoanderson> kkkkkk
[00:57] <jdos3> --help
[00:57] <BitFire> hi!
[00:58] <kakarotoanderson> noob na area
[00:58] <bazhang> !br | kakarotoanderson
[00:59] <bazhang> jdos3, what is your ubuntu support issue
[00:59] <kakarotoanderson> obrigado
[01:01] <jdos3> bazhang: sorry i was just trying to find use the command /help for chat
[01:02] <afflicto> Hello. I tried to install nvidia drivers (from nvidia.com) But it doesn't know where to put 32-bit compatability layers. I have tried to google but I can't find anything!
[01:05] <squinty> afflicto,  have you check in Additional Drivers to see if any applicable there.  recommended proceedure is to use the drivers via the repo's
[01:05] <afflicto> squinty: Well, I wanted to get the latest
[01:06] <afflicto> squinty: maybe I should just uninstall the one I have now and install the one from repos
[01:06] <daftykins> afflicto: yes. repo > manual download
[01:06] <afflicto> daftykins: hm, ok. How would I uninstall the one I have now?
[01:07] <daftykins> run their uninstall script :)
[01:07] <afflicto> daftykins: oh.. let me see :P
[01:07] <daftykins> "sudo nvidia..." hit tab after typing and it should auto complete
[01:07] <squinty> afflicto, might want to chat with the rascals in #nvidia
[01:09] <daftykins> no point.
[01:09] <afflicto> daftykins: Ah, nice. simple enough.
[01:09] <crissmichaels> Anyone know how to set up a shoutcast server? All of the tutorials I've found online have been absolutely no help...
[01:10] <afflicto> Nvidia 331, that's the latest one from the repos right?
[01:10] <mikehaas763> I installed 15.04 alongside windows 10 both installed using UEFI. I booted into windows 10 and after that I don't see the grub boot loader any more. Any idea how to fix it and to prevent it from happening?
[01:11] <crissmichaels> mikehaas763: I'm wondering the same thing, only with 14.04 and Windows 8.1
[01:11] <daftykins> afflicto: which card do you have and which ubuntu version?
[01:11] <afflicto> daftykins: gtx 750 ti, 14.04
[01:13] <jdos3> is it worth getting 15.04?
[01:13] <daftykins> afflicto: you'll need the xorg-edgers PPA
[01:14] <crissmichaels> I didn't even know there WAS a 15.04
[01:14] <daftykins> releases are named year.month
[01:14] <daftykins> it's currently past april 2015, so yes
[01:14] <mikehaas763> crissmichaels: Did it just occur to you or are you just not booting into ubuntu lately?
[01:15] <brmph> jdos3: Very little differences between releases except support time, however the longterm are made more stable in general,
[01:16] <crissmichaels> mikehaas763: I've had the problem since I installed ubuntu. It brings up the Windows boot loader. When I choose ubuntu, it tells me that Windows couldn't start. I've found the "route" to start ubuntu, but it takes longer than I'd like.
[01:17] <Attox> get an ubuntu livestick and repair grub from there
[01:17] <Ben64> crissmichaels: if you installed ubuntu, it shouldn't bring up the windows boot loader
[01:17] <mikehaas763> I don't even see options in the windows boot loader... just goes right to windows
[01:17] <crissmichaels> It does, though...
[01:18] <squinty> !bootrepair
[01:18] <mikehaas763> squinty: I'm aware of that tool but I assume as soon as I boot in to windows again the same problem will happen
[01:18] <Guest79371> hello?
[01:19] <Attox> mikehaas763: boot from a live-stick and get the yannubuntu repository, it provides a very easy to use boot-repair function.
[01:19] <daftykins> Guest79371: ask a question
[01:19] <squinty> mikehaas763,  one way to find out for sure and then you wouldn't have to assume.  ;-)
[01:19] <Guest79371> I need some help with First Ubuntu Bootstrap
[01:19] <Guest79371> I can't get it to boot the cd rom?
[01:20] <Guest79371> It says "Booting CDROM..." then it refreshes and brings me back to the default screen
[01:20] <Ben64> Guest79371: what is First Ubuntu Bootstrap
[01:20] <Guest79371> i think i names it wrong
[01:21] <Guest79371> First Stage Ubuntu Bootstrap
[01:21] <Guest79371> thats what I mean
[01:21] <Ben64> can you explain what you're doing
[01:21] <Guest79371> k
[01:21] <Guest79371> Well, I put in Kali Linux 32 bit into my cd slot, I rebooted the computer, I typed in "c" to "Boot from CDROM".
[01:22] <Guest79371> Then it just refreshes and doesn't boot from the CDROM
[01:22] <Guest79371> no matter how many times i try
[01:22] <Guest79371> and if I wait a bit
[01:22] <brmph> !kali
[01:22] <Guest79371> it brings me the the Second Stage Ubuntu Bootstrap
[01:22] <Guest79371> with something about yaboot
[01:23] <Ben64> well Kali Linux's support channel is #kali-linux, as shown above
[01:23] <Guest79371> No wait, I tried it with other OS too
[01:23] <Guest79371> ill look at the support channel although
[01:23] <Guest79371> thanks for the help
[01:24] <Guest79371> #kali-linux
[01:25] <Guest79371> lol im new to this IRC stuff, (dont ask) how do i switch channels?
[01:25] <brmph> Guest79371: /join #channel
[01:25] <Guest79371> #kali-linux'
[01:25] <Bashing-om> Guest79371: type /joim #kali-linux
[01:25] <Guest79371> thanks
[01:26] <Bashing-om> join*
[01:26] <brmph> best of luck
[01:27] <Guest79371> no response from them
[01:28] <Bashing-om> Guest79371: Better support here . burn and install 'buntu as we can assist .
[01:30] <Bashing-om> Guest79371: How good is your hardware ? Low spec install lubuntu .
[01:31] <Guest79371> imb ack
[01:31] <Guest79371> Its PowerPC G4
[01:31] <Guest79371> lol
[01:32] <Guest79371> Will it work?
[01:33] <james_> Hello Room May i pose a question? more of a query i think
[01:33] <rypervenche> james_: Go for it :)
[01:34] <james_> I am trying to get Ubuntu to mount a samsung digital camera and i can see it in my lsusb & usb-devices but it will not show up as a mounted device on my desktop
[01:34] <james_> any suggestions?
[01:34] <owen1> how to install gpg on 15.04?
[01:34] <daftykins> james_: dmesg | tail on plugging it in and 'sudo parted -l'
[01:35] <daftykins> james_: sounds a bit like MTP, which ubuntu is this?
[01:35] <Guest79371> Guys? I'm sorry but have you looked at my uestion?
[01:35] <Guest79371> sorry that was a bit rude
[01:35] <Bashing-om> Guest79371: See: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/ .
[01:36] <Guest79371> I already have ubuntu
[01:36] <james_> it is Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
[01:36] <rypervenche> owen1: GnuPG? It's installed by default.
[01:36] <Guest79371> *lubuntu
[01:37] <owen1> rypervenche: oh. thansk!
[01:38] <Guest79371> What does this have to do with my problem. I apologize for being a bit rude there lol
[01:38] <daftykins> james_: unplug, sudo apt-get install mtpfs, replug ?
[01:38] <james_> i will try that thanks daftykins
[01:39] <daftykins> np
[01:42] <funyun> hi. can anyone help me with this? E: Unable to locate package php-cli
[01:42] <Guest79371> I am still confused
[01:42] <OerHeks> !find php-cli
[01:43] <james_> well daftykins that did not seem to work :(
[01:44] <daftykins> james_: run "dmesg | tail | pastebinit" on plugging it in
[01:44] <daftykins> james_: i assume this camera is powered on when you plug it in? :)
[01:44] <james_> yes it is powered up when pluggin in
[01:45] <OerHeks> funyun, it is php5-cli
[01:45] <OerHeks> !info php5-cli
[01:46] <james_> dafty here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/bDFApttd
[01:47] <funyun> OerHeks: thanks
[01:47] <daftykins> james_: and "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ?
[01:47] <james_> ok hang on lol
[01:49] <james_> the camcorder does not show up in the parted list
[01:50] <daftykins> mmm didn't think so but thought i'd check
[01:50] <daftykins> what model is it?
[01:51] <daftykins> james_: VP-Dxxx ?
[01:52] <james_> the camcorder is a samsung DVD camcorder
[01:52] <james_> it is an older one
[01:52] <daftykins> i'm asking for specifics.
[01:52] <james_> SC-DC173U/XAA
[01:52] <james_> that is the model
[01:53] <daftykins> sounds like it'll only talk to Windows XP
[01:53] <james_> could i use wine to get it to talk you think?
[01:53] <daftykins> check what mode you have it on in the settings
[01:53] <daftykins> no
[01:54] <OerHeks> if i search for 04e8:120f i find no solution too
[01:56] <Guest79371> I need some help with First Stage Ubuntu Bootstrap                                 I can't get it to boot the cd rom?                                           It moves on to Second Stage in 3 seconds if i dont press anything               It refreshes everytime i boot from the cdrom all it says is "Booting CDROM..." and refreshes in like 5 seconds and all it does is bring me back to the sam
[01:56] <Guest79371> screen telling me 2 options: i to boot and c to boot from cdrom
[01:58] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1715015&page=2 james_
[02:01] <OerHeks> Guest79371 the powerpc iso ? > PowerPC G4
[02:11] <Guest79371> yes power pc
[02:11] <Guest79371> YES POWER PC!
[02:11] <Guest79371> lol
[02:15] <OerHeks> community made a faq https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[02:15] <OerHeks> i'm not really into ppc
[02:19] <ileonic> hello what is the name of the program to make isos in ubuntu
[02:19] <ileonic> the one that take your isos ad make one bootable of them
[02:21] <OerHeks> brasero can burn bootable dvd, usb-creator usb devices
[02:24] <ileonic> yeah but i  am lookin for the one in which you put a copuple of live isos in it
[02:24] <ileonic> and you can burn that iso in a dvd
[02:28] <p5yc071c> has anyone been able to install ubuntu on a mac through bootcamp?
[02:41] <donofrio> does anyone here use xdmx?  I only ask cause I installed it and the help states it's 2002 code...gotta new  newer version
[02:43] <Tripkler> .
[02:43] <p5yc071c> ..
[02:44] <brmph> p5yc071c: Only apple koolaid we have in the ubuntu mac wiki
[02:45] <brmph> \is*
[02:46] <p5yc071c> brmph: thanks, i'll check it out, but I have a feeling this issue lies with mac (standard)
[02:47] <brmph> p5yc071c: yeah, bit more work like any efi
[02:48] <__Myst__> Hey guys
[02:48] <__Myst__> I was wondering if there was aw ay I could see all of my gnome terminal fonts?
[02:48] <__Myst__> I'm switching terminals and I want to know what font it is that supports the char ⤷
[02:49] <brmph> http://graphemica.com/%E2%A4%B7/glyphs/dejavu-serif-book  __Myst__   ?
[02:50] <__Myst__> Yes, that char brmph
[02:50] <brmph> dejavu is in the repos and your computer
[02:51] <__Myst__> Oh, is that literally the only font that supports it, brmph?
[02:51] <__Myst__> DejaVu Serif?
[02:51] <brmph> no idea
[02:51] <__Myst__> Oh well, it's not monospace...
[02:52] <Sprocks> is there anyone here that has used the find command before id like some information about capabilities
[02:54] <__Myst__> Sprocks: Eh, I've used it before. I could give a shot.
[02:55] <Bashing-om> Sprocks: Fund + (regualar expression) And/or bash cab do wonders. What is the end goal here ?
[02:55] <Sprocks> __Myst__: id like to use find to find files obviously but id like to also echo the filename to a file and delete it, do you know if it is possible to execute more then one command?
[02:56] <__Myst__> Yes Sprocks
[02:56] <__Myst__> do
[02:56] <__Myst__> find . -name filename -exec whatever -delete
[02:58] <Sprocks> is it only possible to do it with -delete? or could i treat it like -exec echo <file>; rm <file>?
[02:58] <__Myst__> Sprocks: Why do you not want to use -delete?
[02:58] <__Myst__> (Restarting urxvt, brb.)
[02:59] <__Myst__> Here I am, back.
[03:05] <thomedy> hey i read that if i want to lose a connection then i delete the wifi setting for that
[03:05] <thomedy> i am trying to connect to a hot spot it used to work
[03:05] <thomedy> but i changed its name and now it doesn'
[03:05] <thomedy> no matter if i use the old name or new
[03:06] <thomedy> and i know its not th ehot spot cuz that works on other things
[03:06] <thomedy> so its my laptop
[03:06] <thomedy> i deleted the wifi network
[03:06] <thomedy> and its not helping
[03:09] <Sprocks> __Myst__: just wanted to basically run it like a script so if i decide i can echo the filename, cp the file somewhere else and something else
[03:11] <ileonic> hello i am in a ubuntu live cd  i need to erase files in the intalation y need space
[03:11] <ileonic> what can i erase ?¿
[03:13] <Bashing-om> ileonic: Boot back into the install and run terminal command 'df -h' to see where the space is consumed. ( /boot ?) and then delete as required .
[03:14] <JohnD> Hi.  I have a problem but first I would like confirm something.  According to the ndiswrapper FAQ, it says 32-bit drivers will not work on 64-bit OSes.  If so, I have a Wifi USB adapter driver problem.
[03:15] <ileonic> what is cow and can i delete it whiout crashint my actual session ?
[03:15] <JohnD> And yes, I have gone through the common solutions of installing the linux-freeware-nonfree package, using modprobe
[03:16] <JohnD> er.. linux-firmware-nonfree
[03:19] <Null-A> do I need to do anything special to install ubuntu on macbook pro other than boot the usb drive and proceed with installation?
[03:20] <Bashing-om> ile "cow' is the booting inititive of the liveDVD, no can not delete it, and would do you no good in making space available in the actual install .
[03:20] <Bashing-om> ileonic: ^^
[03:21] <ileonic> well is tha  i jhave  only  mb of free space
[03:22] <ileonic>  i did have1gb or at least 700 mg  bt
[03:22] <ileonic> i instaled k3d to burn a iso  and i need to install a vmachi to prube it
[03:23] <Bashing-om> ileonic: Again, from the install, terminal command 'df -h' to know where the space is used up . Then we can address that issue .
[03:25] <ileonic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11818793/
[03:26] <ileonic> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11818793/
[03:26] <Bashing-om> ileonic: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/11818793/ .
[03:27] <ileonic> sorry ibecause i did not paste your nick i paste it again
[03:30] <Bashing-om> ileonic: That is from the liveUSB ( try ubuntu mode ) we need to look at the file system from the actual install . IF you only have a live - DVD to work from; can not delete from the contents written to the DVD .
[03:32] <dreki> I ran "aptitude update" and one of the updates was an apparmor profile. At the prompt I selected "D - compare differences".  I can't for the life of me figure out how to back out of the comparison and back to finish my updates. Any help?
[03:32] <ileonic> thanks bashin
[03:34] <dreki> I finally figured it out. thanks anyway.
[03:34] <ileonic> hey can i erase the tmp directory from the usb live install
[03:35] <Bashing-om> ileonic: No help yet, maybe some direction ?
[03:36] <ileonic> i need space in the usb instalation  the live  usb
[03:37] <ileonic> when i moun it it give a 1Gb of space i need  to erase somehthin to instal a virtual machine and to run a bootable dvd
[03:48] <JohnD> Bashing-om: are you familiar with driver loading problems?
[03:51] <Bashing-om> JohnD: In a limited kind of way, what is the situation ?
[03:52] <JohnD> It is for a Prism54 USB wifi adapter, which is recognized by lsusb.  However, dmesg says, among other things, "(p54usb) unable to jump to boot ROM (-19)".
[03:52] <JohnD> I made a ubuntu forum post about it with all the details.
[03:53] <Bashing-om> JohnD: Nope. sorry WIFI is out of my experience .
[03:55] <JohnD> Thanks for trying Bashing-om.
[03:56] <Bashing-om> JohnD: :(
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:01] <brmph> JohnD: I know nothing more than finding these links. https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/p54  https://wiki.debian.org/prism54
[04:04] <JohnD> brmph: Those were the first things I tried
[04:04] <brmph> JohnD: For the record you can get linux/ubuntu capable usb wifi on line, notated as such and cheap.
[04:04] <brmph> that plug and play
[04:06] <JohnD> I may just end up doing that.
[04:07] <JohnD> I don't know how much more effort I want to put into this problem, truthfully
[04:07] <brmph> JohnD: That would be my first consideration, any future efforts.
[04:07] <brmph> &*
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> john-mcaleely: whats your issue exactly
[04:09] <JohnD> lotuspsychje: if you like, I have the full details posted at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2284681
[04:09] <JohnD> well, not all the sites I visited at any rate
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> JohnD: have you tryed ubuntu 14.04.2?
[04:11] <JohnD> not yet
[04:11] <michael_p> hi
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> JohnD: i would try that with internet cable on+ updates enabled + 3rd party software
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> JohnD: or try the liveusb and test from there
[04:12] <michael_p> i want to able to merge a bunch of video files to one is that possable
[04:13] <JohnD> lotuspsychje: I can try that.  Thanks.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> michael_p: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8523/whats-a-software-that-can-join-videos
[04:14] <michael_p> not looking for gui
[04:14] <michael_p> wouldnt ffmpeg -i *.mpg
[04:14] <michael_p> and set the output
[04:23] <Mr777> Hello people
[04:24] <Mr777> I have problem with my ubuntu, wifi keeps disconnecting. Is there any way to figure out the problem and resolve?
[04:24] <codepython777> can one move a machine from 15.04 desktop to 14.04lts server ?
[04:24] <codepython777> Mr777: which version?
[04:24] <Mr777> 14.04
[04:24] <Ben64> no, can't go backwards except by formatting and reinstalling
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: wifi chipset and ubuntu version please?
[04:25] <Mr777> Card is intel and ubuntu version is 14.04
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: have you installed ubuntu with internet enabled+updates during setup?
[04:26] <Mr777> Its been installed more than 2 months now
[04:27] <codepython777> My macbook pro has 15.04 and keeps loosing wifi as well
[04:27] <Mr777> And this problem started 3 days ago
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: after an update?
[04:27] <Mr777> And yes lotuspsychje
[04:27] <Mr777> After some update yes
[04:27] <Mr777> I remember that update
[04:27] <Mr777> Security base something
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: you could try loading a previous kernel perhaps
[04:28] <ileonic> -dhello i am trying to make a bootable dvd
[04:28] <ileonic> http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/ISOLINUX
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: or tail -f /var/log/syslog in realtime and play with wifi a bit to see errors
[04:29] <ileonic> a little help
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !burn | ileonic
[04:29] <Mr777> Aaah thats a good idea... Doing it now lotuspsychje
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> ileonic: you can burn .iso to dvd with brasero by example
[04:30] <ileonic> is not to burn aone iso is to burn 3 isos in a single dvd
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> ileonic: multisystem can make multiple iso to usb, not sure about dvd
[04:30] <ileonic> a mean 3 bootable isos  and yes i know yumi and such but i need them in a dvd
[04:31] <Mr777> Ohhh all of sudden it says eth0 is not ready lotuspsychje
[04:31] <ileonic> it does not work whit dvd multisystem i think
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> ileonic: can this help? http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/create-bootable-iso-with-multiple-linux.html
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: eth0 is cable, not wifi
[04:32] <Mr777> Yeah and wifi wqs also disabled
[04:33] <Mr777> Restarting helped that
[04:33] <ileonic> i think that was the scrip i  am goin to try it
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> ileonic: whats the reason you want on dvd?
[04:34] <ileonic> i don't have a hd at the moment
[04:34] <ileonic> and i want to try various distros
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> ileonic: usb sticks are cheap, and you can erase back after new iso's
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> ileonic: you could test out distro's in virtualbox also
[04:35] <ileonic> yeah i know but i don't have one at the moment
[04:35] <ileonic> i just loseone
[04:35] <ileonic> but i have dvd so
[04:36] <ileonic> yeah i just install it
[04:37] <Mr777> lotuspsyvhje: I have PM'ed you. Please look when you have time
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: you could try to file a bug with those syslog lines+ubuntu version..or try a fresh install or try load previous kernel
[04:37] <ubuntu711> Mr777: You can tab compete nixs
[04:37] <Mr777_> Is that something wrong?
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !bug | Mr777 mention also it started after update
[04:38] <Mr777_> I mean something that shouldnt be happening?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33 doesnt sound very good to me
[04:39] <Mr777> Oh okay o am going to file this and will try to load with previous kernel
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: maybe paste your whole syslog in the bug also
[04:39] <Mr777> Okay
[04:42] <Mr777> lotuspsychje: what if i dont exactly remember the package?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: investigate as much as you can, some issues are hard to define wich package causes it
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: could be wpa_supplicant, but can be something else too
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: if you paste syslog and dmesg, they might find the right cause
[04:45] <Mr777> I am investigating
[04:53] <staples18> f
[04:53] <Mr777> lotuspsychje: i see that Ubuntu base is the pavkage which caused that problem
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: ok, gather as much info in your bug as possible
[04:54] <Mr777> But i am not able to find its package
[04:54] <Mr777> Via commandlibe
[04:55] <Mr777> irqbalance
[05:01] <MrSeven7Seven> lotuspsycje: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/irqbalance/+bug/1471373
[05:02] <Mr777> This robot is lying :p i just have created it there
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> Mr777: wrong url?
[05:04] <Mr777> Nooo its correct
[05:04] <Mr777> I copied from browser
[05:05] <Mr777> WTH.....
[05:05] <staples18> what if'
[05:05] <staples18> jews did 9/11
[05:06] <Mr777> staples18: ehh?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> !ot | staples18
[05:07] <staples18> sory
[05:15] <Patero-ng> anyone knows where to find mirrors of ubuntu to download it faster then 30min
[05:16] <ubuntu711> p2p
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> !mirror | Patero-ng
[05:17] <Mr777> I removed a line from iwlwifi.conf
[05:17] <Mr777> And seems like this is good now
[05:17] <Mr777> Ohhh no, never mind
[05:17] <BuzzardBuzz> use transmission for faster download
[05:18] <Mr777> How can i find the ubottu help?
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | Mr777
[05:20] <Patero-ng> I didn't find any mirrors, that site is to register mirrors
[05:21] <Mr777> Thanks
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> Patero-ng: whats wrong with http://releases.ubuntu.com/?
[05:21] <BuzzardBuzz> bittorrent will max your connection speed for the downloads Patero-ng
[05:23] <BuzzardBuzz> your connection is the slowdown otherwise
[05:23] <Patero-ng> it goes from 600 to 300
[05:23] <Patero-ng> I think is the load on the servr
[05:24] <BuzzardBuzz> well you wont have server load issues with transmission
[05:25] <BuzzardBuzz> but it you are not familiar with it, i can ubderstand that
[05:25] <BuzzardBuzz> *understand
[05:25] <BuzzardBuzz> what is your isp speed?
[05:27] <Patero-ng> it says is 6mbps
[05:27] <Patero-ng> but instead then downlaoding at 600kb/s all the time it goes as long as 240 sometimes
[05:27] <Patero-ng> as low
[05:28] <BuzzardBuzz> well yo uwould get your full speed down with torrenting but that is something that is learned how to do that
[05:29] <BuzzardBuzz> torrents are usually much faster than webserver for getting files
[05:29] <Patero-ng> torrentes
[05:29] <BuzzardBuzz> transmission is a bit torrent client
[05:29] <Patero-ng> but getting the same file from multiple multiget would do it
[05:30] <BuzzardBuzz> true if the webservers are running without congestion
[05:30] <Patero-ng> ok I'll try bitorent and see how much deep my love it
[05:31] <BuzzardBuzz> you can get 50 sources with it
[05:31] <Patero-ng> ubuntu is popular like arch
[05:31] <BuzzardBuzz> and you will max out your download connection
[05:31] <BuzzardBuzz> it seems faster for me anyway
[05:32] <BuzzardBuzz> i would bet you will get better performance with it also
[05:33] <BuzzardBuzz> unless your isp is blocking that protocol, it will be alot faster
[05:38] <Patero-ng> that's what I need is more performance
[05:39] <Patero-ng> happy 4th of Julie
[05:39] <BuzzardBuzz> :) Happy 4th of july to you also
[05:39] <BuzzardBuzz> are you in usa also?
[05:40] <BuzzardBuzz> i am near chicago
[05:40] <Patero-ng> I'm in UT
[05:42] <chris__> Can anyone help with windows not loading after 14.04 installation?
[05:43] <BuzzardBuzz> windows 7 or 8?
[05:43] <chris__> 7
[05:43] <BuzzardBuzz> you need a menu entry in grub to chain load the partition
[05:44] <BuzzardBuzz> usually grub auto detects that and sets it up for you
[05:44] <chris__> Im new to linux based OS's.. how would i go about doing that?
[05:45] <BuzzardBuzz> is the windows 7 on the same or a different hard disk from ubuntu?
[05:45] <EriC^^> chris__: try sudo update-grub in a terminal
[05:45] <chris__> Same HDD, Set up a new partition as part of the install.
[05:46] <chris__> i have already run that in termianl. windows shows up in the selection but when i try to run it the comp just reboots
[05:46] <EriC^^> chris__: type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:47] <EriC^^> also sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[05:49] <mintx> hi
[05:49] <BuzzardBuzz> hello :)
[05:49] <mintx> how is everyone
[05:49] <Patero-ng> :(
[05:49] <agent_white> Evenin'
[05:49] <Patero-ng> is almost 4th of Julie
[05:49] <mintx> good thing im Canadian
[05:49] <mintx> :)
[05:50] <Patero-ng> you like that too? that mint
[05:50] <mintx> that mint doe
[05:50] <Patero-ng> my sister told me it was a fun os
[05:50] <chris__> ok, i typed those
[05:50] <mintx> Why?
[05:50] <EriC^^> chris__: links please?
[05:51] <chris__> Usage: parted [-hlmsv] [-a<align>] [DEVICE [COMMAND [PARAMETERS]]...]
[05:51] <chris__> Use netcat.
[05:51] <Patero-ng> mintx cause it had a penguien somewhere
[05:51] <chris__> http://termbin.com/0uzh
[05:51] <BuzzardBuzz> mint has alot of usefull out of the box items for ease of use like ubuntu
[05:51] <chris__> http://termbin.com/l0zw
[05:51] <mintx> yup i prefer it because of the xfce environment, idk if ubuntu has that
[05:52] <BuzzardBuzz> it does also
[05:52] <mintx> oh nice maybe ill test it out in vbox :P
[05:52] <BuzzardBuzz> thats how i like to try them also
[05:52] <EriC^^> chris__: did you used to have win8 then installed win7?
[05:53] <chris__> no i had win 7 stock
[05:53] <EriC^^> chris__: it's trying to chainload the efi file
[05:53] <BuzzardBuzz> does your windows grub menu item have a chainload item in it chris?
[05:54] <EriC^^> chris__: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com  9999
[05:54] <mintx> BuzzardBuzz: its a great way to see if you like it cause its easy to get rid of :D
[05:54] <EriC^^> it's an L not a 1
[05:54] <chris__> it has a few options, ubuntu, windows bootstrapper, and setup
[05:56] <mintx> Guise sorry to be really noob im just started IRC today, How do I change my name?
[05:56] <EriC^^> /nick nick
[05:56] <chris__> http://termbin.com/9ztp
[05:57] <xMinty> Thank you sir
[05:57] <agent_white> Also look into nickserv at some point to register your nickname.
[05:57] <EriC^^> chris__: ok, so is windows on the 3TB disk or 1TB>
[05:57] <chris__> 3TB
[05:57] <EriC^^> i see, it won't work
[05:57] <EriC^^> ubuntu is installed in legacy mode
[05:58] <Patero-ng> xMinty yesterday I learned is a bad idea to install ubuntu on a pendrive as a persistent instalation
[05:58] <EriC^^> on the 1TB disk, and windows is in uefi mode on the 3TB one, grub tries to chainload the efi file for windows and it fails
[05:58] <xMinty> Why, you mean like to install Ubuntu from a flash drive?
[05:59] <chris__> ok, the 1TB is an old HDD, so if i wipe windows from it, it should work then and not try to chain load?
[05:59] <EriC^^> chris__: no, you need to reinstall ubuntu in uefi mode
[05:59] <chris__> ok, thanks!
[06:00] <EriC^^> chris__: win7 is on the 3TB one right?
[06:01] <chris__> i think windows may be on all of my HDD's tbh, they are old and i put them in for extra space without formatting them yet
[06:01] <chris__> But yes it is on the 3 TB for sure
[06:01] <EriC^^> chris__: yeah, ok
[06:01] <BuzzBuzzard> likely you could get them all to boot up and run as different menu items
[06:02] <BuzzBuzzard> but it sounds like that is not your desire
[06:02] <EriC^^> so you'll need to convert the 1TB to gpt first, then install ubuntu in uefi mode
[06:02] <EriC^^> BuzzBuzzard: he can't mix and match uefi and legacy, he'd have to keep switching between uefi and csm legacy in the bios to boot them
[06:02] <Dev-gitter> hi my keyboard layout not work in 15.04 please help me?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> !keyboard | Dev-gitter
[06:03] <BuzzBuzzard> well i just avoid uefi for my stuff
[06:03] <chris__> i did try to swapping between the two to get it to load, but naturally windows didnt care for that
[06:03] <Dev-gitter> ubottu, can't open gui keyboard
[06:03] <BuzzBuzzard> but i dont have any large disk either
[06:04] <EriC^^> chris__: if you have a live usb, boot it and then run sudo gdisk on the 1TB drive and make a fresh gpt partition
[06:04] <EriC^^> chris__: this will wipe everything on it though, including the windows there
[06:04] <EriC^^> *partition table
[06:05] <BuzzBuzzard> hopefully he is not needing to do backups prior to those items
[06:05] <Dev-gitter> lotuspsychje, hi keyboard layout not work or open to manage and change with switch keys
[06:05] <BuzzBuzzard> otherwise it can take some time
[06:06] <chris__> i have a usb HDD reader so i can remove the drive and back up on another comp before doing all of this :D
[06:06] <BuzzBuzzard> good plan
[06:07] <chris__> ok thanks guys, greatly appreciated
[06:12] <Dev-gitter> hi my keyboard layout not work
[06:13] <xMinty> uh did you go to your keyboard settings
[06:18] <Patero-ng> the terminal can save a lot of people
[06:19] <agent_white> !does not work
[06:19] <agent_white> D: shit
[06:19] <agent_white> !don't work
[06:20] <agent_white> !doesn't work | Dev-gitter
[06:24] <boodllebat> Hello i just downloaded a book named book.pdf and it is saying that book.pdf is a executable file and it may contain virus or harmful code , what should i do ?
[06:25] <xMinty> do it
[06:25] <abakusbro> is that a torrent error?
[06:25] <abakusbro> boodllebat?
[06:25] <xMinty> I doubt you downloaded a linux virus
[06:25] <boodllebat> abakusbro: no just unity dialog box
[06:25] <boodllebat> abakusbro: nothing related to torrent
[06:25] <boodllebat> abakusbro: its just a pdf file
[06:26] <EriC^^> unity?
[06:26] <boodllebat> EriC^^: or gnome
[06:26] <abakusbro> if you are clicking trough bittorrent software or another torrent software it may give that kind of error
[06:26] <boodllebat> EriC^^: i mean basic dialog box which appears on ubuntu
[06:26] <EriC^^> is it in tor browser?
[06:27] <abakusbro> but if you are getting this error when you clicked pdf file through an explorer window, there can be a problem
[06:27] <boodllebat> EriC^^: no torrent , no tor its firefox
[06:27] <boodllebat> abakusbro: so should i remove it ?
[06:27] <EriC^^> i think it's firefox just being stupid
[06:28] <EriC^^> not sure
[06:28] <abakusbro> i dont think there can be a problem too
[06:28] <abakusbro> trust your instincts
[06:28] <abakusbro> :D
[06:28] <boodllebat> ok :)
[06:35] <thomedy> how do i get rid of all my memorized wireless connections
[06:46] <johnnyb777> hey would you guys care to help me choose which app icon you like the most? your vote counts https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Y26CMTW
[06:46] <johnnyb777> trying to get an idea for creating an app icon
[06:48] <meetri> is there a way to test my machine. i have about 256GB of memory on this machine but it never goes pass about 8GB usage. any suggesstions for easily testing to see if I can get it to 50% utilization
[06:48] <EriC^^> 256gb ram?
[06:49] <bekks> Sounds like a server.
[06:49] <meetri> yea
[06:49] <bekks> meetri: So show us "free -m" please.
[06:49] <bekks> In a pastebin :)
[06:50] <meetri> http://pastie.org/private/oyskyhuakyqyota5nl0dq
[06:52] <bekks> So whats wrong there? You have 256G, but your server just uses < 8G currently.
[06:52] <bekks> BEsides 112G cache :)
[06:53] <meetri> for what i'm running on it i would expect more to be used
[06:53] <meetri> ie. 4 600gb postgres DB's
[06:53] <bekks> Then you havr to adjust your expectation :)
[06:54] <meetri> lol
[06:56] <meetri> i tried using the stress tool to suck up all the memory but my command doesn't seem to be doing the trick
[06:56] <meetri> memory usage doesn't budge
[06:57] <bekks> Create a tmpfs and you will be using all your memory :)
[06:57] <bekks> I dont see a reason to do so, but it's possible :)
[06:57] <meetri> i'm having performance issues with the DB's
[06:57] <bekks> Which isnt a RAM issue :)
[06:57] <meetri> i'm surprised that it's not taking advantage of all the memory
[06:58] <bekks> Because you configured your postgres that way?
[06:58] <meetri> possibly. i'm havn't touched the postgres configs
[06:58] <meetri> s/i'm/i
[06:59] <bekks> Thats why you have performance issues then. Take a look here: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Tuning_Your_PostgreSQL_Server
[07:00] <meetri> well... i'm trying to run postgres on top of a btrfs snapshot
[07:00] <hell_> guys...help me ....how to enter into the website which is busy....? am using backbox
[07:01] <agent_white> !doesn't work | hell_
[07:01] <agent_white> hell_: Is english your native language? What you said does not make sense.
[07:03] <hell_> website is still loading...i know lot of people is using the website now..
[07:03] <bekks> hell_: And how is that related to Ubuntu?
[07:03] <agent_white> hell_: That does not make sense. What does "busy" mean? How are you "entering"
[07:04] <Johnny_Linux> its kail ??
[07:04] <agent_white> a website?
[07:04] <Johnny_Linux> kali
[07:04] <agent_white> hell_: Is english your native language?
[07:04] <hell_> ofcoure not
[07:04] <agent_white> hell_: You may need to look into ubuntu channels for your language, as what you say is very obscure.
[07:06] <Exaeta> So I add myself to dialout with "sudo usermod -a -G dialout rnicholl", but then I get "[Errno 13] Permission denied: '/dev/ttyUSB0'" when I try to run plover, am I doing this wrong?? how do I allow my user to read/write to that device without using root?
[07:07] <Ben64> Exaeta: might need to reboot
[07:08] <bekks> At least you need to log out completely for taking group changes into effect.
[07:09] <Exaeta>  Is that so? That seems very strange to me, I THOUT that Linux did not need to reboot the time...
[07:09] <bekks> You dont need to reboot, you need to log out and back in.
[07:14] <Exaeta>  All right then, I will try that later.
[07:38] <macscam1> i just bought a secondhand Windows 7 laptop and installed Ubuntu on it, but the internet doesn't work. Here are the specs  https://gist.github.com/MaxPleaner/eee7a79eb47a1906eea4
[07:39] <locksmith2> happy 420
[07:39] <macscam1> it is a HP Pavilion dv4
[07:40] <ubuntu711> macscam1: Can you define "internet doesn't work"?
[07:40] <sMaKy> Have no fear smaky is here.
[07:41] <macscam1> i installed ubuntu alongside windows, and am running windows now connected to the internet. When I book into Ubuntu, though, I don't see any networks
[07:41] <macscam1> boot*
[07:41] <Ulfalizer> macscam1: wlan?
[07:41] <sMaKy> Is it adsl?
[07:41] <macscam1> i dont know
[07:41] <sMaKy> ...
[07:41] <Ulfalizer> macscam1: is there a network cable attached?
[07:41] <macscam1> no its wifi
[07:41] <Ulfalizer> ah, yeah, that's what i meant. sorry. :)
[07:42] <ubuntu711> macscam1: Look in additional drivers in software and updates
[07:42] <macscam1> alright, i will sign off to do that, thanks/
[07:53] <Nairwolf> which cli tool could help to rezise a partition ?
[07:53] <macscam1> just wanted to say thanks, got the wifi fixed by going to software and updates
[07:53] <bekks> Nairwolf: fdisk, parted
[07:55] <Nairwolf> ok, I'll see that
[07:56] <bekks> Nairwolf: gparted live would be more easy.
[07:56] <Nairwolf> yes, but it's with a ssh connection
[07:57] <bekks> Which partition do you want to resize?
[07:58] <Nairwolf> I have three partitions. 1st is for booting. 2nd is my system and my home. And the third seems void. i would like to delete the third and resize the second
[07:59] <Nairwolf> check this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/11819541/
[08:00] <nibbler> Nairwolf: thats rather simple, just delete 2 and 3, and recreate 2 making sure to use the same debut
[08:00] <Nairwolf> I can't delete 2 because it would delete also my data
[08:00] <nibbler> Nairwolf: nope, it wont delete your data
[08:01] <Nairwolf> so with parted I would use rm 2 then rm 3 then also recreate 2
[08:02] <Nairwolf> why only delete 3 and resize 2 isn't possible ?
[08:02] <nibbler> Nairwolf: it will just delete the entries in the partitiontable, if you recreated it at the same debut, superblocks etc will still be in place. i'd recommend making an importable backup of the table, in case you mess something up. (random google on backup/restore http://adamstechblog.com/2008/07/14/using-sfdisk-to-backup-your-partition-table/)
[08:02] <nibbler> Nairwolf: you can also use some higher-level tools that allow resize, but its all the same.
[08:06] <Nairwolf> I can't make a backup now because I don't have an physical access to the server
[08:06] <nibbler> Nairwolf: any data not being in a proper backup is most likely not important anyway
[08:07] <Nairwolf> with parted tool, there is a function "resize" can I use it ?
[08:09] <erste> Hi, with multi-monitor setup.. where is the configuration for removing the "Sticky-ness" of mouse when moving to another screen?
[08:10] <erste> I can't find where I can configure the sticky-ness when I reach the edge of the screen.
[08:10] <nibbler> Nairwolf: sure
[08:10] <Nairwolf> okay, I prefer
[08:11] <nibbler> Nairwolf: remember that the filesystem has to be resized afterwards, too. in case your tool does not do this automatically.
[08:11] <Nairwolf> how afterwards ?
[08:15] <Nairwolf> parted says that for the resizing is not really stable...
[08:15] <Nairwolf> he advices to use "e2fsprogs"
[08:18] <nibbler> Nairwolf: thats for the filesystem, yes. e2resize or such
[08:19] <Nairwolf> what's the difference between the filesystem and partitions ?
[08:19] <Nairwolf> If i modify only partitions why the filesystem is impacted ?
[08:20] <nibbler> Nairwolf: the partition is the container of the filesystem. if the container ends up smaller than the contained, your can expect data corruption. if the container is bigger than the contained, you are not using your space completely. so first increase container space (partition size) and than make the contained (filesystem) expand to the new boundaries
[08:22] <vegombrei> so how do i remove an aplication i sudo apt-get installed?
[08:22] <nibbler> vegombrei: sudo apt-get  remove
[08:24] <Nairwolf> ok, so I should say yes to parted ?
[08:24] <nibbler> Nairwolf: if you are happy with unstable resizing....
[08:25] <Nairwolf> no obviously
[08:26] <Nairwolf> when I'm quiting parted it says "do not forget to update /etc/fstab". What does it mean ?
[08:26] <nibbler> Nairwolf: i don't know parted, but you said it warned you about being unstable. on the other side its easy and high-level - you chose
[08:27] <Nairwolf> So I should use fdisk ?
[08:27] <nibbler> Nairwolf: the decision on how you prefer losing your data is all up to you :p
[08:28] <Nairwolf> what I should use to not lose my data ? e2resize ?
[08:28] <nibbler> Nairwolf: most likely both version will work. but you need to decide yourself which path to take.
[08:28] <Nairwolf> thank you for explanations about filesystem and partitions
[08:29] <vegombrei> i have 4 internal drives, however just the boot drive gets mounted the others i gotta click to mount .. is there a way all drives mount on startup ?
[08:29] <nibbler> vegombrei: /etc/fstab (man fstab) is the place to put them
[08:35] <vegombrei> nibbler: its quite complex
[08:37] <nibbler> vegombrei: not really.... description of device, mountpoint, filesystem plus "defaults 0 0" if you are lazy
[08:38] <nibbler> vegombrei: i wonder if "auto" would even work for filesystem type in fstab, never tried. but anyway, knowing "what" you want to mount "where" is not overly complex, but just the required info, don't you think? fs-type okay.... but i'm sure you'll manage this, too
[08:52] <charlie_> anyone know what theme this guy is using https://vimeo.com/93736144 ?
[08:55] <vegombrei> nibbler: thanks
[08:57] <funyun> hi. can anyone help me link a domain i bought to a dedicated server i bought?
[08:58] <funyun> using command line
[08:59] <funyun> my provider gave me this. but i have no clue what to do with it https://kb.leaseweb.com/display/KB/Cheat+Sheet
[09:16] <Sacrelicious> guys please help, for some reason all sound went dead on my linux, i get the startup sound at the intro screen, but nothing else.
[09:16] <t3chguy> funyun: that's not Ubuntu related, thats related to generic DNS Settings
[09:16] <t3chguy> only your Provider's support can help you with that
[09:16] <Sacrelicious> right but it was fine until like...5 minutes ago
[09:17] <Sacrelicious> sorry, thought that was directed at me
[09:19] <Sacrelicious> any idea why sound would suddenly stop on me?
[09:20] <funyun> t3chguy: i can get help from google but can you tell me exactly what it is i'm trying to do?
[09:21] <t3chguy> well its pretty simple
[09:21] <t3chguy> you need to set a root A Record
[09:21] <t3chguy> pointing to your IPv4 address
[09:21] <t3chguy> and if your server has IPv6 to
[09:21] <t3chguy> then add an AAAA record for that
[09:21] <t3chguy> the root is often depicted as `@`
[09:21] <t3chguy> so you go into the panel
[09:21] <t3chguy> choose A Record
[09:21] <t3chguy> @
[09:21] <t3chguy> %YOUR_SERVER_IPv4%
[09:21] <t3chguy> save
[09:21] <t3chguy> then wait a few hours for it to propagate
[09:22] <funyun> t3chguy: do i need cpanel or some alternative for this?
[09:22] <t3chguy> no
[09:22] <t3chguy> your domain registrar's panel
[09:22] <t3chguy> its not related to your server whatsoever
[09:22] <t3chguy> just wherever you control the DNS of your domain
[09:22] <t3chguy> (often the same as the domain registrar)
[09:23] <funyun> okay. thank you for your help :)
[09:24] <Sacrelicious> how do i set volume via amixer from the terminal to max?
[09:24] <Sacrelicious> something happened weird with my audio
[09:25] <EriC^^> Sacrelicious: type pulseaudio in a terminal
[09:25] <EriC^^> to see if the daemon is running
[09:27] <Sacrelicious> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[09:27] <Sacrelicious> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[09:27] <Allmighty_> Is there any way to move the unity launcher to bottom.
[09:27] <EriC^^> no
[09:27] <EriC^^> not that i know of
[09:27] <EriC^^> Sacrelicious: are you sure the volume is up? try installing pavucontrol and checking stuff
[09:28] <Sacrelicious> one sec
[09:29] <Sacrelicious> so its running and everything looks okay
[09:29] <EriC^^> Sacrelicious: try using the guest account and see if it works
[09:30] <Sacrelicious> okay one sec
[09:32] <Sacrelicious> guest account works fine
[09:32] <EriC^^> ok, it's a config issue then
[09:32] <EriC^^> Sacrelicious: are you using unity or xubuntu btw?
[09:32] <Sacrelicious> unity
[09:36] <EriC^^> Sacrelicious: ok, try using alsamixer and see if everything is turned up
[09:37] <Sacrelicious> master is at 0
[09:37] <Sacrelicious> how do i turn it up?
[09:38] <Sacrelicious> wait got it
[09:38] <Sacrelicious> unreal.
[09:38] <Sacrelicious> thank you
[09:39] <Sacrelicious> still not playing
[09:40] <Sacrelicious> alsamixer had master at -60something... cranked it to max, still no audio
[09:41] <EriC^^> Sacrelicious: are all the rest up?
[09:42] <EriC^^> Sacrelicious: is the output device correct in pavucontrol?
[09:43] <Sacrelicious> i believe so
[09:43] <Sacrelicious> wait got it
[09:43] <Sacrelicious> it was set to "headphones" for god knows why
[09:44] <Sacrelicious> damn...thank you so much EriC^^
[09:45] <mherweg> (how) can i use xrandr to have the same desktop on both LCDs (clone)  ?
[09:47] <mherweg> I fond it: --same-as
[09:48] <EriC^^> Sacrelicious: no problem
[09:48] <BBLLCC> my xubuntu 15.04 doesnt recognize any wifi network. Since the upgrade from 14.10 it started detecting wifis for a while, but then reverted to detecting none (and there are networks). I now depend on an ethernet cable
[09:50] <TJ-> mherweg: "xrandr --output XXXX --auto --same-as YYYY"
[09:51] <mherweg> BBLLCC:  sudo rfkill list all
[09:51] <mherweg> TJ-: thanks!
[09:51] <BBLLCC> mherweg, it returns nothing
[09:52] <mherweg> sudo iwconfig
[09:54] <BBLLCC> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[09:54] <BBLLCC> lo        no wireless extensions.
[09:54] <BBLLCC>  but why did my machine start detecting wifis after I upgraded to 15.04? now there are at least 5 workings wifis in the range of my other computer
[09:55] <mherweg> must be a missing driver or firmware for your wifi
[09:56] <BBLLCC> how do I solve it?
[09:56] <EriC^^> BBLLCC: maybe try lspci -k | grep -A2 Network and see which module it's using
[09:56] <mherweg> "but then reverted to detecting none "  - did you update the kernel ?
[09:56] <EriC^^> and try to use the same on the earlier version if you can
[09:57] <BBLLCC> lspci -k | grep -A2 Network returns nothing
[09:57] <BBLLCC> yes, kernel was also updated
[09:58] <mherweg> "returns nothing"  ...  not even the eth0 wired device ?
[09:58] <BBLLCC> not even that
[09:58] <BBLLCC> absolutely nothing
[09:58] <EriC^^> BBLLCC: type lspci -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:59] <BBLLCC> returns: http://termbin.com/evhg
[10:00] <EriC^^> BBLLCC: is the wifi a usb wifi?
[10:00] <BBLLCC> nope
[10:00] <BBLLCC> integrated card
[10:00] <BBLLCC> SiS
[10:02] <EriC^^> i can't see it anywhere
[10:02] <EriC^^> *shrug* , try cat /var/log/dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:03] <mherweg>  BBLLCC: what type of laptop is it ?
[10:03] <BBLLCC> http://termbin.com/k9vt
[10:04] <BBLLCC> mherweg, is ther e a command for that? i dont even know myself
[10:05] <ali_> حد يتكلم عربي
[10:05] <TJ-> BBLLCC: DMI: clevo                            M7X0SUN
[10:05] <BBLLCC> a, thanks
[10:07] <BBLLCC> sis190: sis190 Gigabit Ethernet driver 1.4 loaded << thats just the ethernet connection and that doesnt imply a working wifi, is that so?
[10:07] <BBLLCC> wifi should be also part of SiS
[10:08] <Allmighty_> Is there any way to move the unity launcher to bottom in ubuntu 14.04.
[10:10] <Kartagis> hi
[10:10] <mherweg> BBLLCC: i think theres a hotkey so you see the grub menu before ubuntu boots - there you can choose an older kernel
[10:10] <Kartagis> a while ago, I was helped about screentearing
[10:10] <TJ-> BBLLCC: show us "lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:10] <BBLLCC> f2 I thikn
[10:10] <Kartagis> it's happening again
[10:11] <BBLLCC> http://termbin.com/3l2m
[10:11] <TJ-> BBLLCC: according to the Windows drivers compatibility list, that model has a  RTL8187B USB if anything at all
[10:11] <BBLLCC> TJ-, im confused, I never used a wsb wifi card to get wifi access on my computer
[10:12] <Kartagis> http://termbin.com/mqvn <--- this is what I've got it /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf
[10:12] <mherweg> BBLLCC: lsusb         do you have dual boot or ubuntu only ?
[10:12] <TJ-> BBLLCC: they can be in internal slots
[10:12] <BBLLCC> mherweg, ubuntu onlky
[10:12] <BBLLCC> TJ-, ok? so what do you suggest I do?
[10:14] <mherweg> BBLLCC: it does not apper in lspci or lsusb. maybe there is a hardware-switch to turn it on/off ?
[10:14] <EriC^^> mherweg: good idea
[10:14] <BBLLCC> mherweg, i havent seen any in the 5 years since i own the machine
[10:14] <EriC^^> check the sides
[10:15] <BBLLCC> nope, nothing
[10:15] <TJ-> BBLLCC: I've downloaded the Windows WLAN drivers from the clevo support web-site, it also confirms the device is a Relatek RTL8187 USB2 adapter
[10:16] <EriC^^> BBLLCC: if you boot a live 15.04 session it works out of the box?
[10:16] <TJ-> BBLLCC: So... I suspect it's internal and its been dislodged and lost its connection... probably just needs the case opening and the module fitting firmly
[10:16] <TJ-> BBLLCC: the device ID is USB\VID_0BDA&PID_8187&REV_0100
[10:17] <BBLLCC> TJ-, i dont know what to do with all that information. So, should I just opne the machine and lookf for a dislodged card/module?
[10:17] <TJ-> BBLLCC: correction, the device ID is one of:  USB\VID_0846&PID_6A00&REV_0100   USB\VID_13D1&PID_ABE6&REV_0100     USB\VID_1371&PID_9401&REV_0100   USB\VID_0769&PID_11F2&REV_0100
[10:18] <TJ-> BBLLCC: let's see if we can find some photos of the PC opened up, or a service manual
[10:18] <vuurdraak> Hi all, I have recently installed War Thunder (Steam) I'm using windowed mode, but the window doesn't use the Unity bar, I know I can tell compiz some how to resize a window to the unity bar, but can't find it online, anybody got an idea how to do this ?
[10:19] <mherweg>  BBLLCC: check if it is disabled in the BIOS menu
[10:20] <BBLLCC> mherweg, what exaclty ? USB\VID_0846&PID_6A00&REV_0100   USB\VID_13D1&PID_ABE6&REV_0100     USB\VID_1371&PID_9401&REV_0100   USB\VID_0769&PID_11F2&REV_0100 <? all that?
[10:20] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Ahhh.... "Wireless LAN Module Power Toggle" = Fn + F11
[10:21] <TJ-> BBLLCC: that's from the PC's user manual, page 1-10 "Function Keys"
[10:21] <TJ-> BBLLCC: It may also be that the key-combination is only valid either during BIOS, or more likely, within the Windows OS
[10:22] <BBLLCC> most probably, but please, what do I have to check if its disabled in the bios menu?
[10:22] <mherweg> BBLLCC:  i suggest to enable it
[10:23] <mherweg> usually there is also a indicator LED for it
[10:23] <BBLLCC> mherweg, but what do I have to look for? WIFI? USB\VID_0846&PID_6A00&REV_0100?
[10:23] <TJ-> BBLLCC: read page 7-11 of the manual too "Before installing the ...WLAN driver make sure that the Wireless LAN module is on. Use the Fn + F11 key combination ... to toggle power to the Wireless LAN module
[10:24] <TJ-> BBLLCC: mherweg I doubt there's a BIOS control for this since they've explicitly put the power under hot-key control
[10:25] <mherweg> BBLLCC:  did you try Fn + F11
[10:25] <BBLLCC> I just found a LED for the wifi app and its off (I guess its the wifi app, its a small stick with waves in both directions)
[10:25] <TJ-> BBLLCC: if you don't have the user manual, check here: http://www.clevo.com.tw/en/e-services/download/USRManualOut.asp?model=M72xS&menual=+GO+
[10:25] <BBLLCC> holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:25] <TJ-> BBLLCC: confirm that the manual illustrations do look like you PC since the way Clevo list their models I couldn't find an exact match
[10:26] <BBLLCC> fn+f11 works!!!!!
[10:26] <BBLLCC> jesus christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:26] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Read the manual - there are other key combos to control power to Bluetooth and other things
[10:26] <mherweg> :-)
[10:26] <BBLLCC> thanks a lot guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:26] <vuurdraak> :)
[10:26] <BBLLCC> wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:26] <TJ-> some folks are so easily pleased ;)
[10:28] <vuurdraak> So anybody can give me some tips on resizing a window to the top bar ?
[10:29] <vuurdraak> I know i found one time how to tell compiz to resize a wine window but i can't find it anymore, War Thunder is capturing Alt-Enter
[10:29] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: click on the title bar and drag it to the top
[10:29] <vuurdraak> mmm lets test
[10:29] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: there's alt+space then x
[10:30] <BBLLCC> how do I download that ftp://sftp.clevo.com.tw/USRMANUAL/M72xS/M72S_CUG.zip from the terminal?
[10:30] <TJ-> BBLLCC: use the command "wget <URL>"
[10:30] <vuurdraak> EriC^^, no go
[10:31] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: alt+space too?
[10:31] <vuurdraak> there is also no maximize button in the war thunder bar
[10:31] <vuurdraak> noop
[10:32] <vuurdraak> i can only close the window or minimize, alt+space give me extra choice to go to another desktop
[10:32] <EriC^^> alt+f8 maybe and move it to the top?
[10:32] <xtpeeps> Did u guys do the test of software in Linux?
[10:32] <vuurdraak> noop
[10:33] <vuurdraak> I know I changed compiz settings one time to fix it for Wine, by giving some sentence to it
[10:33] <vuurdraak> but i can't find that anymore
[10:33] <EriC^^> mmm maybe try compiz > window rules
[10:33] <vuurdraak> War Thunder is native app btw not wine , but i guessed i could do the same
[10:34] <cfhowlett> the wine app will not run as smooth or as nice as the native app
[10:34] <vuurdraak> I just did a fresh ubuntu 14 install, i think i need to reinstall the compiz tweak thingy
[10:34] <vuurdraak> 14.04*
[10:35] <vuurdraak> i'm in CCSM
[10:37] <vuurdraak> EriC^^, should i type that from a consol ? compiz ?
[10:37] <EriC^^> no it's fine
[10:37] <EriC^^> try super+m it might work
[10:38] <vuurdraak> there is no music available on this computer dahs says xD
[10:38] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: first enable the maximumize plugin
[10:38] <vuurdraak> in CCSM right ?
[10:39] <vuurdraak> CompizConfig Settings Manager
[10:39] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:41] <vuurdraak> can't find it
[10:41] <vuurdraak> place windows ?
[10:41] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: ok, if that doesn't work, go to window rules, size rules, then add, new window class, grab window, click on the window's title bar, then set the width and height to your screen size and click apply window rules plugin
[10:42] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: nah it's next to it, you might not have compiz-plugins installed
[10:42] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins
[10:43] <vuurdraak> done, Setting up compiz-plugins (1:0.9.11.3+14.04.20150313-0ubuntu1)
[10:43] <vuurdraak> ow lol it realy is called maximumize :D
[10:45] <yang_> hello
[10:45] <vuurdraak> checking your previous suggestions with maximumize enabled one sec
[10:46] <vuurdraak> wt is enoying when i press alt+enter it sees it as enter ...
[10:48] <baja> free
[10:48] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: the window rules might work
[10:48] <vuurdraak> maximumize didn't help, i needed to restart the game a vew times settingit back to full screen and windowed again , to see if it did something else, no go
[10:49] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: compiz sucks though, it got pretty borked for me
[10:50] <vuurdraak> okay going to try your last suggestion, sorry i just got telephone but hang up :)
[10:53] <EriC^^> ok restart fixed it :D
[10:53] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: any luck?
[10:53] <vuurdraak> i just typed it , going now to test
[10:54] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:54] <vuurdraak> noop nothing :') , i left "add" thats okay right ?
[10:55] <vuurdraak> i think the window is already the right size but simply not docking to the top bar
[10:56] <debaser> how do I find a channel about growing olive trees?
[10:56] <debaser> or discussing the TPP
[10:57] <zykotick9> !alis | debaser
[10:57] <BBLLCC> do I need a 3.5G module?
[10:57] <debaser> ty
[10:57] <vuurdraak> i think there is another command to tell unity to dock the window to the top bar, i know i did something in my previous ubuntu for wine windows
[10:57] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: there's a snap plugin too
[10:57] <vuurdraak> that was like entering a command in compiz
[10:57] <fs0i> Hey guys, I'm using i3 with ubuntu 15.04. Everything works fine, but I can't change volume / screen brightness
[10:58] <fs0i> Under Ubuntu 14.04 this was easy with the gome-settings-deamon, but now it doens't work anymore
[10:58] <fs0i> So: No media keys are working
[10:58] <Whitelion> yo I'm having a problem, I got a heavy progect and the keyboard seems to be in late..is that possible?
[10:58] <fahadash> How do I see whether there is an update for the package I have installed?
[10:59] <Whitelion> the greace pencil seems to remain activated even if I don't press d
[10:59] <vuurdraak> EriC^^, not sure if the snap thingy can do anything, it doesn't have many options
[10:59] <Whitelion> even I tried to change a number and I pressed 1 and it typed d
[10:59] <fs0i> fahadash: sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[10:59] <zykotick9> fahadash: "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" would be one method
[10:59] <fs0i> It'll tell you when it's installed in the newest version
[10:59] <vuurdraak> what is the highed of the top bar of unity ?
[11:00] <vuurdraak> maybe it
[11:00] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: try the place windows plugin
[11:00] <Whitelion> whic I suspect is the "d" I pressed to use the pencil
[11:00] <BBLLCC> if I run xubuntu i only need xubuntu restricted extras, ubuntus extras are not needed. right?
[11:01] <fahadash> how to do an apt-cache search with two keywords and both have to be found in the name ?
[11:01] <cfhowlett> BBLLCC, same package, different name.  xubuntu-restricted-extras will suffice
[11:01] <vuurdraak> EriC^^, what position should i set, it says now -32768
[11:01] <fs0i> fahadash: man apt-cache
[11:03] <fs0i> fahadash: apt-cache search (word1(.*)word2)|(word2(.*)word1) might do it
[11:03] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: hmm no idea 0 maybe
[11:03] <vuurdraak> i will try out different things
[11:04] <debaser> this is a newb question... is irc federated? as in if I /join a particular channel, is that only on a particular server, or is it ... multicast somehow?
[11:04] <Qrtww> Yo des francais
[11:05] <Ben64> debaser: only on whatever network youre on
[11:05] <debaser> ah right thanks
[11:05] <fs0i> debaser: There are different networks - you are on the "freenode"-network. If two people join the same channel on freenode, they can talk to each other. If I join #ubuntu in quakenet, and you in freenode we won't talk to each other
[11:05] <EriC^^> fahadash: apt-cache search firstword | awk '$1 ~ /firstword/ && $1 ~ /secondword/'
[11:07] <debaser> i see, thanks fs0i
[11:08] <fahadash> Thanks
[11:08] <baja> i wan to uninstall skype
[11:08] <EriC^^> no problem
[11:08] <baja> and reinstall again
[11:09] <baja> whats the command for uninstall using terminal
[11:09] <debaser> apt-get remove skype?
[11:09] <baja> ok
[11:09] <BBLLCC> how do I increase/decrese brightness on xubuntu?
[11:09] <EriC^^> apt-get purge if you want to remove the config files too
[11:09] <EriC^^> baja:
[11:09] <baja> its asking if i am root?
[11:10] <EriC^^> use sudo
[11:10] <fahadash> I have been seeing guys talking about mono version 3.2.1 but when I installed it using apt-get it gives me 2.10.1
[11:10] <debaser> I had troubles on xubuntu with brightness until i went back to an LTS release, fwiw
[11:10] <fahadash> I did apt-cache update
[11:10] <debaser> baja, sudo apt-get remove skype (or purge)
[11:10] <debaser> actually xubuntu 15.04 was flaky as can be
[11:10] <lucas-arg> dont know where else to go... cant turn off my laptop... Im on 15.04 in 14.04 I had to install laptop-mode-tools to do this, now that being done doesnt change anything
[11:11] <debaser> i went back to plain old unity and ubuntu 14.04 lts
[11:11] <debaser> had nothing but trouble on xubuntu 15.04
[11:11] <baja> reinstall
[11:11] <vuurdraak> I think the War Thunder window simply refuses to listen to anything set in compiz, i notice now that the Window Size rules when set from 1024 to 980, do not have any effect either, i guess it cant be done with WT
[11:11] <baja> error has no installation candidate
[11:12] <baja> 'skype:i386' has no installation candidate
[11:12] <debaser> dpkg --get-selections | grep skype
[11:12] <vuurdraak> Thanks for trying to help EriC^^
[11:13] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: there's devilspie too if you feel like trying it
[11:13] <EriC^^> !info devilspie
[11:13] <vuurdraak> :O
[11:13] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: no problem
[11:13] <vuurdraak> :)
[11:14] <vuurdraak> lets check it :)
[11:14] <EriC^^> ok :)
[11:14] <zykotick9> debaser: sidenote, "dpkg -l" is a not less typing then "dpkg --get-selections", just sayin'
[11:14] <debaser> fair call hehe
[11:14] <zykotick9> s/not/lot/
[11:15] <debaser> the former helps to understand it a bit better though perhaps
[11:15] <debaser> well, actually 'get-selections' isn't a great name either
[11:15] <vuurdraak> do i need to install some other devilspie package, i just installed it's gui , but it doesn;t pop anything up
[11:16] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: this is a config file http://paste.ubuntu.com/11820224/
[11:16] <vuurdraak> ow wait got it
[11:16] <vuurdraak> i missed the top one :)
[11:16] <zykotick9> debaser: for whatever reason, on my system, -l also had 5 more lines then --get-selections
[11:16] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: copy it to ~/.devilspie and change the window title to WT's title
[11:16] <vuurdraak> okay
[11:17] <debaser> interesting, yeah I guess --list and --get-selections is different. I just hit google, so mine is probably 10 years old and deprecated
[11:18] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: i wanted to make the terminal as a background image once, so i came across devilspie, it turned out to be a pretty stupid idea though
[11:18] <EriC^^> :D
[11:18] <vuurdraak> EriC^^,  what name should the config file have
[11:18] <vuurdraak> lol
[11:18] <EriC^^> you can leave the name i guess
[11:18] <EriC^^> i remember i had to call devilspie daemon first or something
[11:18] <vuurdraak> i copy past the text as i cant download as i dont have ubuntu one
[11:18] <EriC^^> also remember to change the geometry
[11:19] <vuurdraak> as soon as i press download ubuntu tells me to make an acount xD
[11:19] <vuurdraak> so i dont know the file nmames name
[11:19] <EriC^^> oh, it's called background.ds
[11:19] <vuurdraak> ah so i could call it wt.ds ?
[11:20] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: yeah
[11:20] <debaser> is anyone concerned about the TPP thing, and where might be a good server and channel to discuss that?
[11:21] <EriC^^> ok, you type devilspie to run it vuurdraak
[11:21] <EriC^^> but i just tested it and it puts the window behind everything else on the desktop and keeps it there (it's supposed to be a background)
[11:21] <vuurdraak> http://pastebin.com/qdMiz6Zz
[11:21] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: so minimize everything so you can see it, if it works i guess there's a line we have to remove
[11:22] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: ok looks good
[11:23] <vuurdraak> intresting stuff happened two windows from War Thunder maximized to the top bar, but i can no longer see their icons in the lauch bar xD
[11:23] <shovel_boss> where can i find Wildpikachu
[11:23] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: it's probably the options in the config
[11:23] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: remove the (below) i think that keeps it behind everything
[11:24] <EriC^^> and if you want the remove decorations and maybe tasklist
[11:24] <shovel_boss> or where can i find a ##linux op
[11:24] <debaser> i don't think he'll be hidden in the ubuntu chanel shovel
[11:25] <vuurdraak> EriC^^,  lol it is maximizing the console window , but not the second window :')
[11:25] <bekks> shovel_boss: Most likely you can find a ##linux op in ##linux
[11:25] <vuurdraak> and the buttons on the window have disapeared :D
[11:25] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: lol
[11:25] <EriC^^> WT isn't maximizing at all?
[11:25] <EriC^^> i mean the one you want?
[11:25] <debaser> if there was a fight between ubuntu and bas, who would win?
[11:25] <debaser> bsd*
[11:25] <vuurdraak> yes it is when i do develspie a second time after the window is there
[11:26] <shovel_boss> debaser: freebsd
[11:26] <EriC^^> oh ok cool
[11:26] <bekks> debaser: Noone cares :)
[11:26] <debaser> hehe freebsd is the right answer
[11:26] <zykotick9> bekks: +1
[11:26] <debaser> i was just watching that Ricky Gervais show
[11:26] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: remove the (undecorate) and (below) and (skip_tasklist) from the WT.ds file
[11:26] <vuurdraak> o7
[11:27] <debaser> in all seriousness, freebsd is the right answer.
[11:27] <EriC^^> i'm not sure what skip_tasklist does maybe it has to do with the launcher
[11:27] <bekks> debaser: In all seriousness, it is offtopic in here.
[11:27] <debaser> ok sorry
[11:27] <BBLLCC> how do i get rid of truecrypt
[11:27] <BBLLCC> ?
[11:28] <vuurdraak> mm now it doesnt maximize to the top bar :')
[11:29] <debaser> has ubuntu got zfs yet?
[11:29] <shovel_boss> how do i rice i3
[11:29] <bekks> debaser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS
[11:30] <cfhowlett> !zfs | debaser
[11:30] <zykotick9> shovel_boss: perhaps i3 isn't for ricers ;)
[11:30] <debaser> that's good to see, thanks
[11:31] <vuurdraak> EriC^^, ah well i give up :) i will just go full screen and close of the game evey time i want to minimize as its to save on power, and ask the wt devs how to get around this
[11:31] <shovel_boss> zykotick9: why not
[11:31] <debaser> if there was a fight between a dung beetle and a termite, who would win?
[11:31] <bekks> debaser: Offtopic in here.
[11:31] <shovel_boss> debaser: freebsd
[11:31] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: ok :)
[11:31] <debaser> hehe
[11:32] <zykotick9> shovel_boss: i was joking ;)  though, i'm not sure there is a huge amount you can do to customize i3...  good luck!
[11:32] <shovel_boss> noice
[11:33] <vuurdraak> EriC^^,  it is a very entertaining prog though devilspie :) as it seems to be able to do hillarious things to my windows xD
[11:33] <lucas-arg> well tried to repport a bug about shutting down the system but even that its crazy difficult
[11:33] <EriC^^> vuurdraak: yeah, definitely :D
[11:35] <EriC^^> lucas-arg: this is what opensource is, they make it very hard to report bugs so you eventually decide to fix it yourself and join the open source society, etc. like a pyramid scheme if you want
[11:36] <zykotick9> EriC^^: pufff ;)
[11:36] <vuurdraak> haha
[11:37] <vubuntu>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER vubuntu lmsaeokmnjbq
[11:37] <Johnny_Linux> yah
[11:37] <Johnny_Linux> gettem
[11:37] <zykotick9> vubuntu: time to change your password!
[11:37] <vubuntu> hahah
[11:39] <BBLLCC> what can asterisk be? an asterisk process (in htop I mean) consumes a lot of my cpu 80%)
[11:39] <vubuntu> zykotick9 thats the instruction on the email. Where should that be registered?
[11:41] <zykotick9> vubuntu: i'm not sure.  i'd suggest asking in #freenode for registration help.
[11:43] <vubuntu> zykotick9: That was just once off. Its just an auto generated password used once off. I registered successfully on NickServ thanks
[11:44] <zykotick9> vubuntu: nice...
[11:44] <debaser> i just saw ********. use hunter2 next time
[11:45] <zykotick9> vubuntu: sidenote, if your client has a "server" window, i'd suggest using that (if you're going to manually) verify/login vs. using a channel [to prevent the issue you had earlier of showing everyone your password]
[11:48] <vubuntu> zykotick9: thank you appreciate it.
 if your irc client doesn't have an option to set the nickserv password, freenode alows you to do vubuntu:your_password in the server password field instead
[12:01] <owen--> Hello all. Is there a simple command that will show me the memory consumption of a specific process?
[12:01] <lucas-arg> top
[12:01] <lucas-arg> or htop
[12:02] <EriC^^> owen--: ps can do that
[12:02] <owen--> lucas-arg: Thanks. If the process has multiple sub processes, does the main pid show the total memory?
[12:02] <OerHeks> ps -aux | grep -i firefox
[12:03] <lucas-arg> owen--: in that case i would use ps
[12:04] <owen--> The problem is, is that the process I want to check for memory consumption has many sub processes. Would I have to use a script to total them all up or can ps do this?
[12:05] <owen--> EricC^^: Thanks by the way
[12:05] <lucas-arg> owen--: ps -aux | grep -i program
[12:05] <EriC^^> owen--: no problem
[12:06] <debaser> maybe use --ppid to get the child ones; -v maybe for virtual mem
[12:06] <debaser> if its one parent spawning them i guess
[12:08] <owen--> debaser: Is that 'ps --pid'?
[12:08] <owen--> debaser: Is that 'ps --ppid'?
[12:08] <debaser> --ppid if you know the parent process id
[12:08] <debaser> that spawned the children
[12:08] <Voov> Hey Guys im having this problem where i cant click anything but i can type and navigate with my keyboard anyone know what the issue is?
[12:09] <owen--> debaser: So the --ppid will show the total memory?
[12:09] <vuurdraak> Voov, your mouse is not working ?
[12:09] <vuurdraak> Voov, try another usb port ?
[12:09] <debaser> no that'll just select the process with that parent pid i think. i think -v will give you virtual mem stats
[12:09] <vuurdraak> Voov, sometimes usb3 ports dont work well
[12:10] <Voov> vuurdraak, my mouse moves and it usually works but i just logged in this morning and it wont click ill switch ports
[12:10] <Voov> vuurdraak, i switched ports mouse moves still wont click
[12:10] <vuurdraak> sometimes i got problems with mouse scroll, disconnecting the mouse from the usb port and re-attaching then solves it
[12:11] <vuurdraak> Voov, , mmmm
[12:11] <ioria> owen-- you can also use sudo pmap -x pid
[12:11] <Voov> i know if i relog/restart it works after
[12:12] <vuurdraak> Voov, so when you just start up the pc it works ? and after sometime it stops working ?
[12:13] <vuurdraak> Voov, does it happen after starting a particular program ?
[12:15] <Voov> vuurdraak, so from what ive noticed it works perfectly fine but when i step away from the computer for lets say 5 min i come back i usually find the mouse clicks to stop working
[12:15] <vuurdraak> Voov, is any screensaver or other energy saving sceme kicking in after 5 min ?
[12:16] <vuurdraak> if so try to disable them first
[12:16] <vuurdraak> see if they are guilty
[12:16] <debaser> owen--: I'm not sure ps alone will give you it, but a small script with --ppid and perhaps looking at /proc/$PID/status for the results of the childrem
[12:16] <Voov> vuurdraak, alrgiht ill take a look im going to relog cause this is annoying brb
[12:16] <debaser> grepping for VmSize
[12:16] <vuurdraak> tyt
[12:17] <anonymous> hii
[12:17] <vuurdraak> take your time
[12:18] <debaser> another newb question, how do i turn off connects/disconnects in xchat-gnome?
[12:18] <anonymous> do you know the name of some book that worth it reading
[12:18] <owen--> debaser: Thanks. I had taken this route. The idea was to use snmp to fetch the output of the script, but it does not like it when I use 'echo $variableName' as out put. If I use a program in the script e.g. ps, who, etc... snmp can read that output from the script...
[12:18] <agent_white> anonymous: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30249/in-empathy-irc-how-do-i-turn-off-the-joined-and-disconnected-messages
[12:20] <EriC^^> owen--: you mean like snmp $(echo "$variable") ?
[12:20] <agent_white> anonymous: Or... `/ignore * MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS`
[12:20] <debaser> owen--: I haven't used snmp in years, it maybe an escaping issue? If you need to get the output from remote hosts, ansible might be an optiob
[12:20] <agent_white> WOOPS
[12:20] <agent_white> debaser: Read what I said to anonymous !
[12:21] <agent_white> debaser: Or... `/ignore * MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS`
[12:21] <debaser> agent_white: well, if it works, sounds good to me
[12:22] <agent_white> debaser: Then you won't see _any_ messages regarding users joining, leaving. quitting, changing names... etc. Just the chat.
[12:22] <brmph> anonmo: Crime and Punishment is a classic
[12:22] <agent_white> debaser: Try it and see.
[12:22] <owen--> Eric^^: When I run my .sh script using the extend-sh option I get no output. When I execute the script ./myscript I see the output. By the way these are  Ubuntu servers :)
[12:22] <debaser> agent_white: oh sorry misread, will do it
[12:22] <debaser> IGNORE * MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS
[12:23] <agent_white> debaser: Add in the /  before you type that... as well as "IGNORE" needs to be lower-case.
[12:23] <agent_white> debaser: `/ignore * * JOINS PARTS QUITS`
[12:23] <agent_white> erm...
[12:23] <agent_white> debaser: `/ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS`
[12:23] <vuurdraak> :)
[12:24] <debaser> i'm failing pretty hard at doing that i think
[12:24] <agent_white> I normally keep MODES in there.
[12:24] <vuurdraak> i like to see who comes and goes :)
[12:24] <agent_white> debaser: Copy-paste  what I just put up, without the `
[12:24] <agent_white> debaser: "/ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS"
[12:24] <zykotick9> !quiteirssi | agent_white debaser i think you need some + signs there!
[12:24] <agent_white> without the quotations.
[12:24] <owen--> I was thinking if there was a way to use a program that gathers all the child-pids stats of a main pid, I could use awk, grep etc.. to get the value. That would work with snmp
[12:24] <agent_white> zykotick9: Nope. No need.
[12:24] <zykotick9> !quietirssi | agent_white debaser i think you need some + signs there!
[12:25] <debaser> I'm not entering quotes, but i get some feedback 'unknown arg JOINS ignored' etc
[12:25] <agent_white> zykotick9: Yes. But that applies for only a single channel.
[12:25] <zykotick9> agent_white: your * will be all channels
[12:25] <agent_white> We're talking about ALL channels. Wherein the wildcard character "*" needs to be in place of the channel name.
[12:25] <agent_white> Correct.
[12:26] <agent_white> Hm.
[12:26] <agent_white> "/ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS"
[12:26] <agent_white> Without the quotes?
[12:27] <agent_white> That should work.
[12:27] <agent_white> Type it in manually, instead of copy-paste.
[12:27] <EriC^^> none work here btw
[12:27] <EriC^^> Unknown arg 'JOINS' ignored. Unknown arg '+JOINS' ignored.
[12:28] <debaser> nope nothing working here, nevermind I'll live with it
[12:28] <OerHeks> i think  /ignore #* +JOINS +PARTS +QUITS
[12:28] <agent_white> debaser: http://askubuntu.com/questions/356054/xchat-how-to-hide-join-leave-messages
[12:28] <vuurdraak> .  /ignore function works in xchat ^.^ confirmed
[12:28] <agent_white> debaser: http://z9.io/2012/10/10/hide-the-annoying-bits-in-xchat/
[12:28] <agent_white> vuurdraak: :D
[12:29] <vuurdraak> :)
[12:29] <baja> how do i close a pop block webpage??
[12:29] <baja> its covering my desktop and i cant remove!!!
[12:29] <agent_white> debaser: You must be entering it incorrectly. As this command is universal... as in, most if not ALL irc clients recognize it. Though saving the setting is up to you to research.
[12:29] <agent_white> (though I found how to save it in xchat in 15 seconds of google searching)
[12:30] <baja> its covering my desktop and i can access toolbar
[12:30] <debaser> well I've had a few beers, but I've tried most combinations. /set irc_conf_mode on may have worked
[12:30] <agent_white> debaser: I have, too. No excuse. ;D
[12:30] <debaser> actually the GUI right-click has done the trick
[12:30] <baja> anyone pls
[12:30] <baja> its annoying
[12:30] <agent_white> Checkout my second link... latest one above.
[12:30] <debaser> well, dunno what to say, was typing it in as specified
[12:30] <zykotick9> debaser: personally, i'd suggest not using xchat-gnome... but YMMV.  (note: xchat is no longer supported, hexchat is a replacement)
[12:30] <shovel_boss> how do i start mpv from the console without the console staying open
[12:31] <shovel_boss> mpv -shuffle -loop=inf /root/Desktop/Playlist/ -windowed-mode
[12:31] <shovel_boss> using that command what do i add
[12:31] <agent_white> debaser: What happens when typing just "/ignore" ?
[12:31] <debaser> tnks I'll try out hexchat, this was just the first irc client i googled
[12:31] <shovel_boss> -windowed-mode is not working
[12:31] <baja> i have closed browser but still this web pop remains on my desktop covering the whole screen
[12:31] <zykotick9> shovel_boss: try adding a & at the end (may or may not work)
[12:31] <debaser> I get "Ignore list is empty"
[12:31] <vuurdraak> baja, alt f4 not doing anything ?
[12:31] <baja> nothing
[12:31] <OerHeks> shovel_boss," <command> &  "
[12:31] <debaser> with some ANSI style blue-green text
[12:31] <vuurdraak> baja, maybe it was set as a desktop background ?
[12:32] <baja> noooo
[12:32] <shovel_boss> OerHeks: it didnt :(
[12:32] <vuurdraak> baja, what is the current background set too ?
[12:32] <shovel_boss> i had a command that worked
[12:32] <shovel_boss> but i cant find it
[12:32] <agent_white> debaser: Aye. zykotick9 is correct: xchat is actually paid-after-trial software.  Hexchat is open-source.
[12:32] <baja> i was visiting torrent site then the pop up page came up
[12:32] <debaser> oh right. I'll get rid of this, ty for the heads up
[12:32] <baja> it has happened several times
[12:32] <baja> its stuck
[12:32] <vuurdraak> baja, empty your browser cahce and reboot ?
[12:32] <baja> even after i close web browser
[12:33] <debaser> baja, who would win between a penguin, and a walruss?
[12:33] <agent_white> debaser: If you enjoy terminal-based interfaces, the ones to look at would be irssi (I'm using as we speak) or weechat.
[12:33] <baja> why asking me?
[12:33] <baja> walruss i guess
[12:33] <debaser> agent_white: I actually don't mind, a GUI is good, I just wasn't sure what the latest was on ubuntu
[12:33] <agent_white> A tiny more bit of configuration, but I enjoy them due to their lack-of-mouse involvement.
[12:33] <baja> penguin is cute
[12:34] <baja> anyway back to problem
[12:34] <baja> i cant even access toolbar
[12:34] <agent_white> debaser: Ah... the 'latest on ubuntu' is really... the 'lastest GUI' anywhere. The distro doesn't matter. GUI vs. TUI does.
[12:34] <zykotick9> agent_white: the beginning of #debian's <irssi> factoid: "well, irssi is the best <IRC> client ever..." ;)
[12:34] <vuurdraak> it's a browser popup right ? so empty the browser cache
[12:34] <vuurdraak> baja,
[12:34] <baja> the pop has covered my whole screen
[12:34] <agent_white> debaser: Which means... hexchat (GUI) vs irssi or weechat (TUI).
[12:34] <debaser> fair enough; latest on Unity I guess (or is that Gnome 3?)
[12:34] <agent_white> zykotick9: Hahah I agree!
[12:34] <vuurdraak> baja, reboot first ?
[12:35] <agent_white> debaser: Definitely then, hexchat  as zykotick9 said.
[12:35] <baja> yes i did before but it still persists
[12:35] <debaser> whatever 14.04 lts has by default
[12:35] <vuurdraak> baja, or is this there right after boot ?
[12:35] <debaser> ok hexchat it is
[12:35] <baja> yes
[12:35] <debaser> baja: a walruss would win every time, greater body mass
[12:35] <agent_white> debaser: "Preferred GUI irc client
[12:35] <baja> thnx
[12:35] <baja> i hae tried rebooting already
[12:36] <agent_white> Is best... not "ubuntu/fedora/arch"...etc.
[12:36] <vuurdraak> baja, strange, so without opening your browser there is a real window covering everything, to me that sounds like it's time to format & reinstall, if this is such a nasty virus that can do that
[12:36] <agent_white> debaser: And you won't be getting those "plz donate" popups either. :D
[12:36] <baja> nooo
[12:36] <agent_white> +1 zykotick9
[12:36] <baja> let me put clear to you
[12:37] <baja> i opened torrent site then this pop up gets stuck on my desktop therefor emaking me always reboot
[12:37] <baja> why cant i close it
[12:37] <sammyg> how do i send terminal output to a printer?
[12:38] <baja> my toolbar is not accessble
[12:38] <vuurdraak> you can go to a console and kill a proccess i guess
[12:38] <OerHeks> baja hit f11
[12:38] <baja> that is sound
[12:38] <baja> mute
[12:38] <baja> on my machine
[12:39] <agent_white> baja: Screenshot the popup.
[12:39] <allizom> baja: what does the popup say? a ransom or what?
[12:39] <agent_white> Then paste it to a site to share it with us.
[12:39] <baja> its white and empty annoying!!!
[12:39] <agent_white> baja: Screenshot.
[12:39] <baja> how do i screen shot and i cant access toolbar
[12:39] <agent_white> 'white and annoying' does not help at all.
[12:40] <agent_white> baja: Are you on unity?
[12:40] <vuurdraak> how did you start an irc client ?
[12:40] <baja> trusty
[12:40] <zykotick9> sammyg: try "command | lp" (you might have to set a default lp printer before it'll work)
[12:40] <vegombrei> anybody know how to install hp printer drivers especially the scan to pc .. its a wifi printer
[12:40] <vuurdraak> baja, printscreen button = screenshot
[12:40] <OerHeks> baja reinstall and stay away from those torrent sites
[12:40] <vuurdraak> yeh
[12:40] <NoobsFlyVFR> mamu?
[12:41] <agent_white> baja: So... trusty?
[12:41] <agent_white> erm...
[12:41] <agent_white> Unity?
[12:41] <baja> ok i have screen shot
[12:41] <baja> how do i sent to you
[12:41] <agent_white> baja: imgur.com
[12:41] <agent_white> baja: imgur.com. Add it there then give us the link.
[12:42] <debaser> vegombrei: I'd go to the HP site first off, but I wouldn't hold my breath
[12:42] <sammyg> zykotick9: "Error - no default destination available."
[12:42] <zykotick9> sammyg: see http://gnuru.org/article/1496/lpr-error-no-default-destination-available
[12:43] <vuurdraak> I know i made a javascript in the past, when people didn't use popup blockers yet, that spawned randomly named windows, from two different base html files, that opened 2 new windows on close and 2 new windows every second, a friend let his teacher click on it on my site on a big screen, she was not amused :D
[12:44] <vuurdraak> she had to reboot :P
[12:44] <debaser> akin to a shell explosion or whatever those things are called i guess
[12:44] <debaser> shell bomb perhaps
[12:45] <agent_white> vuurdraak: That's too involved... in middle-school I set the homepages of computers to a audio-file that shouted "I'M WATCHING GAY PORN" after 5 seconds.
[12:45] <zykotick9> debaser: fork bomb...
[12:45] <vuurdraak> haha
[12:45] <baja> http://imgur.com/gallery/ZTGv08m/new
[12:45] <debaser> zykotick9: that's what i was reaching for ty
[12:45] <agent_white> Now that I'm about to work IT at a highschool, I can't do that anymore... or maybe I can without being suspended this time :D
[12:45] <vuurdraak> you could not stop my popups even from the taskmanager :D
[12:45] <vuurdraak> long live popup blockers
[12:46] <baja> that is the link
[12:46] <baja> http://imgur.com/gallery/ZTGv08m/new
[12:46] <baja> anyone has seen it?
[12:46] <agent_white> baja: I AM ON YOUR IMAGE
[12:46] <agent_white> I'm a rockstar! :D
[12:46] <baja> ok
[12:46] <vuurdraak> baja, wow never seen that before , it looks weird
[12:47] <baja> imagine
[12:47] <debaser> baja: looking unhealthy there
[12:47] <vuurdraak> lol@ agent_white
[12:47] <baja> got wasting my time last night
[12:47] <debaser> baja: I'd be inclined to start from scratch
[12:47] <agent_white> baja: But... you need to screenshot the "pop-up stuck  on your desktop" that makes you reboot.
[12:47] <agent_white> vuurdraak: ;D
[12:47] <baja> its there
[12:47] <vuurdraak> baja, is that firefox ? if so maybe uninstall firefox ?
[12:47] <debaser> baja: who would win between a dehydrated jellyfish and a wall-barnacle?
[12:47] <vuurdraak> and then reinstall
[12:47] <sammyg> zykotick9: hey thanks! :)
[12:48] <vuurdraak> if chrome do it for chrome
[12:48] <baja> its just boring
[12:48] <zykotick9> sammyg: glad to help
[12:48] <baja> this pop keeps coming up when i click on a torrent
[12:48] <sammyg> no more copy and pasting from terminal to gedit and then printing...
[12:48] <agent_white> baja: "i opened torrent site then this pop up gets stuck on my desktop therefor emaking me always reboot"
[12:48] <agent_white> That is your issue.
[12:48] <agent_white> Take a screenshot of this,  then give it to us.
[12:49] <baja> i have to rebbot for it to disappear
[12:49] <baja> thats what i meant
[12:49] <vuurdraak> so its gone after boot ?
[12:49] <agent_white> I do not understand how opening a torrent file can cause a "reboot", unless from a harmful site with a false 'reboot' warning.
[12:49] <agent_white> baja: Take a screenshot.
[12:49] <agent_white> Please.
[12:49] <baja> yes but when i go back to the torrent site and try downloadign a torrent i comes back
[12:49] <vuurdraak> ahhh
[12:50] <agent_white> Then, you can explain to us what you see, and what you do, and what you expect to happen.
[12:50] <vuurdraak> baja, so its only after using your browser and clicking a torrent
[12:50] <baja> yes vuurdraak
[12:50] <agent_white> baja: "Go back..." meaning,what? If you click "go back a page", it most likely will re-load the link you clicked and open it once again.
[12:50] <OerHeks> torrent > click > popup, ask help, then click torrent > popup > ask help ...
[12:50] <baja> its a popup
[12:50] <vuurdraak> baja, do you have noscript installed
[12:50] <baja> it comes up as a new window
[12:50] <agent_white> baja: Give us a screenshot.
[12:50] <agent_white> Please.
[12:50] <vuurdraak> baja, check if your popup blocker is on
[12:51] <baja> and gets stuck on my desktop
[12:51] <baja> http://imgur.com/gallery/ZTGv08m/new
[12:51] <allizom> baja: can you press alt+f2 then type gnome-system-monitor ?
[12:51] <vuurdraak> just block the  popup
[12:51] <baja> there is the link to the screen shot
[12:51] <agent_white> vuurdraak: It could be his torrent client "popping up" instead of a javascript action from his web-browser.
[12:51] <agent_white> baja: That does not show the pop-up.
[12:52] <agent_white> !ask | baja
[12:52] <vuurdraak> agent_white, okay
[12:52] <agent_white> !doesn't work
[12:52] <baja> ok
[12:52] <agent_white> vuurdraak: He's just showing us a screenshot of his IRC cient, and an un-rendered browser window. Neither help.
[12:53] <OerHeks> alt f4 sometimes closes a popup from illegal torrent sites
[12:53] <OerHeks> grinn
[12:53] <vuurdraak> true
[12:53] <agent_white> baja: Screenshot the issue.
[12:53] <agent_white> OerHeks: We don't even know if the torrent site is illegal.
[12:53] <clu3l3ss> hi all
[12:53] <agent_white> All we need to know, is what the popup looks like.
[12:53] <vuurdraak> baja, does your torrent client start when the popup comes , or is it not running then ?
[12:53] <baja> i opened browser and went to torrent site. when i clicked download torrent this popup comes in a new window and gets stuck on my desktop
[12:54] <agent_white> baja:  "get
[12:54] <agent_white> baja:  "get's stuck" meaning what?
[12:54] <agent_white> We need screenshots.
[12:54] <agent_white> We need screenshots.
[12:54] <agent_white> Otherwise, we cannot help.
[12:54] <clu3l3ss> anyone care to help me out why I can't resize an xfs partition with gparted on my external disk?
[12:54] <baja> i can not exit the pop up window
[12:54] <allizom> baja: kill firefox with the system monitor, then disable popups
[12:54] <OerHeks> agent_white, screenshot is clear to me
[12:54] <agent_white> baja: What does the pop-up window look like?
[12:54] <OerHeks> alt f4 should close it
[12:54] <baja> http://imgur.com/gallery/ZTGv08m/new
[12:54] <agent_white> OerHeks: But it does not show the pop-up he asks abo;ut.
[12:54] <agent_white> It only shows an IRC client.
[12:54] <vuurdraak> he needs to reboot to make it go away
[12:55] <OerHeks> the popup is white, no text
[12:55] <agent_white> http://imgur.com/gallery/ZTGv08m/new
[12:55] <agent_white> This.
[12:55] <agent_white> Does not show any popup.
[12:55] <agent_white> Of any sort.
[12:55] <agent_white> There is an IRC client window, and the un-rendered (blank white) screen of a browser.
[12:55] <agent_white> There is NO information here to help us.
[12:55] <debaser> clu3l3ss: xfs_growfs ?
[12:56] <agent_white> Please, show  us the screenshot of the popup.
[12:56] <agent_white> Otherwise, we cannot help.
[12:56] <baja> yes that blank screen white is the popup
[12:56] <vuurdraak> that white screen with the browser is the popup i understand
[12:56] <baja> that blank white browser is the one i cant exit
[12:56] <baja> understand
[12:56] <baja> **
[12:56] <agent_white> baja: What browser are you using?
[12:56] <allizom> baja: I've told you what to do, why don't you do that?
[12:57] <agent_white> That is not a pop-up dialogue box, but a pop-up window from your browser.
[12:57] <sammyg> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[12:57] <agent_white> Hit "ctrl-w"
[12:57] <agent_white> sammyg: We're nearly there... ;D
[12:57] <baja> wow magic
[12:57] <agent_white> baja: Which part?
[12:58] <baja> thank youuuuu!!! @agentwhite i buy you coffee someday
[12:58] <agent_white> ctrl-w kills windows on Chrome/Chromium/Firefox.
[12:58] <agent_white> Learn about ctrl-w and shift-ctrl-q.
[12:58] <debaser> baja: might be worth installing ublock origin and noscript also
[12:58] <vuurdraak> baja, i would block performance.affiliaxe.com/aff_c?offer_id=* in noscript
[12:58]  * zykotick9 wonders if xkill would solve this Popup issue?
[12:58] <sammyg> just.... wow! :D
[12:58] <agent_white> ^^ baja Listen to what debaser said.
[12:58] <agent_white> There are ways to avoid these popups.
[12:58] <agent_white> and what vuurdraak said.
[12:58] <baja> how do i installl whats the command
[12:59] <vuurdraak> instal noscript in your browser
[12:59] <baja> ublock origin
[12:59] <agent_white> baja: What is the browser you are using?
[12:59] <baja> firefox
[12:59] <allizom> baja: set dom.popup_allowed_events to a blank string in about.config in Firefox and you'll see no popups ever
[12:59] <allizom> about:config
[12:59] <agent_white> baja: Google "install ubluck firefox"
[12:59] <baja> ok
[12:59] <agent_white> There will be a link to it.
[12:59] <baja> ok im on it
[12:59] <agent_white> baja: Goodluck. Remember ctrl-w and shift-ctrl-q.
[12:59] <baja> thanks
[13:00] <agent_white> \o
[13:00] <vuurdraak> :)
[13:00] <agent_white> debaser / vuurdraak: Nice :D Thank you guys.
[13:00] <vuurdraak> :) np
[13:00] <vuurdraak> thank you too
[13:00] <debaser> welcome; be aware noscript can be a pain till you get used to it
[13:00] <agent_white> Good follow up. Hope he follows through with it.
[13:00] <agent_white> debaser: I solely use noscript :)
[13:01] <vuurdraak> addblock+ & noscript are my best friends :D
[13:01] <debaser> agent_white: I wouldn't surf the web without it :)
[13:01] <agent_white> Amen.
[13:01] <agent_white> debaser: Exactly!
[13:01] <agent_white> Now...
[13:01] <agent_white> !next
[13:01] <vuurdraak> lol
[13:01] <agent_white> Damnit. They got rid of it.
[13:01] <debaser> there is a cheap man's way too though
[13:02] <debaser> put google-analytics.com etc in your /etc/hosts file as 127.0.0.1
[13:02] <debaser> i do both
[13:02] <sammyg> nice work everyone! :) it's nice to see how the community came together to help this poor soul... now THAT'S UBUNTU! right there! ;)
[13:02] <vuurdraak> intresting i didn't think of that yet
[13:02] <debaser> short circuits things a bit i guess
[13:02] <agent_white> debaser: Oh god... let's keep that on the "hush-hush" for now to avoid questions! Hahah. Good trick though! :D
[13:03] <vuurdraak> i don't have any google domain allowed, and temp allow them only when needed
[13:03] <vuurdraak> mostly for login on games or what ever
[13:03] <agent_white> sammyg: You would be surpised... if I used Ubuntu? ;)
[13:03] <debaser> you never want google-analytics.com to resolve imo hehe
[13:04] <debaser> might as well forward your web history to nsa.gov
[13:04] <vuurdraak> which made me remember i didn't add my old host file to my new ubuntu install :) brb
[13:05] <sammyg> agent_white: it's ok to use other Linux distros, i myself use a triple booted ubuntu, fedora and windows machine at the moment
[13:06] <sammyg> agent_white: UBUNTU is more than a Linux distro! ;)
[13:06] <debaser> i would encourage ppl to look at the *BSDs too if you're interested
[13:06] <debaser> nice and tight
[13:06] <agent_white> sammyg: I haven't used Ubuntu in 8 years.
[13:06] <debaser> nowhere near the level of support and drivers etc, but a lean and mean server distro
[13:06] <cfhowlett> !ot | debaser,
[13:06] <debaser> yeah yeah
[13:07] <vuurdraak>  google-analytics.com added to the list :P
[13:07] <debaser> 127.0.0.1	google-analytics.com
[13:07] <debaser> 127.0.0.1	googletagmanager.com
[13:07] <debaser> 127.0.0.1	googletagservices.com
[13:07] <agent_white> sammyg: But I'm here to help since this channel has enough questions to be answered, as well as answers to be remembred.
[13:07] <debaser> i often whack facebook.com etc in there too
[13:08] <agent_white> remembered even*
[13:08] <vuurdraak> debaser, ah more to go to :) adding ...
[13:08] <debaser> it doesn't hurt to cross-polinate a bit, unless the channel is flat out, imho
[13:08] <sammyg> agent_white: i agree! :) that's why i am here too! :D
[13:10] <agent_white> debaser: Aye. As long as the help doesn't say "you should use XYZ distro instead" but relates to ALL linux distros, it is helpful.
[13:10] <vuurdraak> and done :) i also add stuff from  spybotkill&destroy and #   http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/hostslist/
[13:10] <debaser> yep agreed
[13:10] <agent_white> Now... all I  need to remember is if pastie or pastebin is preferred... ;P
[13:10] <agent_white> !pastie
[13:10] <debaser> its worth having as many tools in your toolbox as you can
[13:10] <agent_white> !pastebin
[13:11] <clu3l3ss> need help in gparted please?
[13:11] <SchrodingersScat> !ask
[13:11] <debaser> the xfs issue?
[13:11] <agent_white> !ask | clu3l3ss
[13:11] <agent_white> SchrodingersScat: You devil! ;D
[13:12] <zykotick9> agent_white: please DON'T use pastebin.com <- i won't go there, so miss many pastes :(
[13:12] <agent_white> zykotick9: So it _is_ pastie the  preferred one? aka  the one without ads and such?
[13:12] <debaser> partitioning blues hehe. they can suck
[13:12] <agent_white> I  soley use gist so I don't remember which of those is preferred.
[13:12] <vuurdraak> aww lol can't past my hostlist to pastbin :')
[13:12] <vuurdraak> too long :P
[13:12] <clu3l3ss> yes, I want to resize an xfs partition but I can't move the slider nor can I press RESIZE after manually entering new values.
[13:12] <zykotick9> agent_white: paste.ubuntu.com works as well, pastie is OK i as well (i think)
[13:13] <agent_white> !pastie
[13:13] <clu3l3ss> the drive was formatted by my samsung tv and I want to resize the partition to add an ntfs one. worked for the old drive, does not for the new drive
[13:13] <debaser> clu3l3ss: that's normally a sign there is no more room perhaps?
[13:13] <agent_white> Seems just "paste.ubuntu.com" is it.  Though gist.github.com would be most preferred forseeing changes.
[13:14] <debaser> where is this drive mounted, on a linux machine?
[13:14] <clu3l3ss> sure, thats why i want to make xfs from 500 (drive size) to 250 and add ntfs with 250
[13:14] <debaser> oh, shrink it
[13:14] <clu3l3ss> cant
[13:14] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: Have you followed the guide here? -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition
[13:15] <debaser> i would just back up anything on it, reformat from scratch, and lay it out as you want
[13:15] <clu3l3ss> yes
[13:15] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: Resizing an active partition can be a problem. Do you have a live Ubuntu disk to boot in order to resize the partitions?
[13:15] <debaser> do you have much to lose with that approach?
[13:16] <clu3l3ss> my guess is that the tv formatted it funny so it can't be done. the drive is shown as /dev/sdc but there's no /dev/sdc1
[13:17] <clu3l3ss> the drive is empty so I'm losing nothing but when I partition it manually with XFS/NTFS, the TV complains and says it has to be formatted
[13:18] <debaser> what tv is it?
[13:18] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: Do you know the path to the disk? (/dev/sda... /dev/sdb/.. etc) ? And have you run `fdisk -l /dev/(sda or sdb)` to see what partitions exist?
[13:19] <clu3l3ss> gparted lists it as /dev/sdc
[13:19] <cartucho>  nickserv id jaquernepamuceno
[13:20] <debaser> the only tv i've had experience with is the sony bravia, and that wanted fat32 i think
[13:20] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: And...  `fdisk -l /dev/sdc` show what?
[13:21] <agent_white> The output should say something like... (below the ines "Device    Boot   Start
[13:21] <agent_white> "/dev/sdc1"    etc.
[13:21] <agent_white> Check the output of the command I said.
[13:22] <Aaruni> I am running Ubuntu Precise (12.04, 64bit). I installed scilab on it, from the official ubuntu repo. I get the scilab version 5.3.3. But my teachers in school say I need the version 5.5.2 . Any help on installing it via apt ?
[13:23] <clu3l3ss> how do I copy the text from a terminal window? Im on a ubuntu live-cd
[13:23] <clu3l3ss> have entered the command in xterm
[13:23] <vegombrei> hi im having problems installing ps3 media server please help
[13:23] <Aaruni> clu3l3ss: shift+ctrl+c is copy, shift+ctrl+v is paste
[13:23] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, go  to the scilab site and install from source.  or MAYBE there's a ppa.
[13:23] <vegombrei> does anyone use any media server ?
[13:23] <agent_white> Aaruni: The package version (5.3.3) is  the latest version found to be stable and thus put into the Ubuntu repos. You will need to build/compile version 5.5.2 directly from the scilab website.
[13:24] <Aaruni> agent_white: will it conflict with my current installation of 5.3.3 ?
[13:24] <clu3l3ss> mmh, this command results in ^C
[13:24] <drmagoo> vegombrei: what is the problem ?
[13:24] <agent_white> Aaruni: As you're installing from source, no, it won't.
[13:24] <debaser> clu3l3ss: ctrl+shift+c
[13:24] <Aaruni> agent_white: thanks.
[13:25] <zykotick9> clu3l3ss: try highlighting the text you want (leave it highlighted), then where you want to paste it try shift+INS
[13:25] <agent_white> Aaruni: Though, it is a good idea at this point to first make ;a directory, such as "~/Builds/" to put installations such as these into.
[13:25] <vegombrei> drmagoo: it shows some errors while updating repositories and the doesnt install ps3 mediaserver says cant fint it
[13:25] <clu3l3ss> right, when I press this combo in my xterm window, it writes an ^C, and theres nothing to paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[13:25] <Aaruni> agent_white: I use ~/platform/nix/
[13:25] <agent_white> Aaruni: That way you can easily see what binaries you installed from source vs. ones you installed via the package manager.
[13:26] <debaser> clu3l3ss: I normally use ctrl+shift+c and ctrl+shift+v for copy and paste in terminals
[13:26] <agent_white> Aaruni: Good deal! Whatever path you choose is fine, as long as you are aware it is one you use each and every time you install a package from source.
[13:26] <clu3l3ss> does it matter that it's an xterm window?
[13:26] <Aaruni> clu3l3ss: what terminal program are you using?
[13:26] <drmagoo> vegombrei: what errors ? can you pastebin the output ?
[13:26] <debaser> it'll matter yep, but may work
[13:26] <debaser> shift-ins or ctrl-ins may work
[13:26] <agent_white> Aaruni: Maybe it would be a good idea to also remove the scilab pack you install from apt, just to be safe, so there are no conflicts.
[13:27] <Aaruni> agent_white: that's what I was thinking too.
[13:27] <vegombrei> drmagoo: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/happy-neko/ps3mediaserver/ubuntu/dists/vivid/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[13:27] <agent_white> Aaruni: It would be very wise :)
[13:27] <agent_white> Aaruni: Otherwise, you could end up digging through lots  of crap that would otherwise be unnecessary. Ya know?
[13:27] <vegombrei> drmagoo: then when you sudo apt-get install ps3mediaserver it says cannot find it
[13:27] <clu3l3ss> done in terminal instead of xterm, pasted to http://paste.ubuntu.com/11820801/
[13:28] <OerHeks> vegombrei, that is correct, happy neko has no vivid candidates https://launchpad.net/~happy-neko/+archive/ubuntu/ps3mediaserver
[13:29] <OerHeks> ppa is dead
[13:29] <baja> im using ktorrent how do i minimize it so that it continues downloading wile i do some other work
[13:29] <debaser> the minimize button
[13:30] <baja> there isnt one
[13:30] <vegombrei> OerHeks: you got any idea how i can install a media server to stream media to my ps3
[13:30] <debaser> you have a dodgy X installation I think baja
[13:30] <baja> what??
[13:30] <OerHeks> vegombrei, no, i don; t , and i was just looking for an other ppa, not found.
[13:31] <debaser> baja: your screenshot, was odd. you had none of the decorators for windows etc
[13:31] <baja> i cant even move it
[13:31] <debaser> baja: hence my call to just start from scratch again
[13:31] <baja> ktorrent
[13:31] <baja> i cant minimize
[13:31] <baja> or move
[13:32] <baja> the app
[13:32] <debaser> baja: that's not normal
[13:32] <drmagoo> vegombrei: http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18124#p84106
[13:32] <vegombrei> OerHeks: you wanna tell me when you find something cool ?
[13:32] <clu3l3ss> any insights from my fdisk -l /dev/sdc?
[13:33] <drmagoo> vegombrei: the ps3mediaserver-project has been abandoned
[13:33] <debaser> clu3l3ss: its the normal output of what you'd expect; i can't recall what you were trying to do though
[13:34] <BBLLCC> what tools there are in linux to see how the cpu use evolves? htop shows values just irt
[13:34] <BBLLCC> in real time
[13:34] <debaser> clu3l3ss: you mentioned a TV, are you mounting a disk remotely?
[13:34] <BBLLCC> not over time
[13:34] <clu3l3ss> im trying to shrink the partition so i can add another. IS that a partition, its only /dev/sdc, no /dev/sdc1
[13:34] <clu3l3ss> ?
[13:34] <vegombrei> drmagoo: so doc how do i stream stuff ??
[13:34] <debaser> yeah /dev/sdc is the third 'whole' sata drive if i recall correctly
[13:35] <drmagoo> vegombrei: check this out: http://www.universalmediaserver.com/
[13:35] <clu3l3ss> ok, so how come the shrink slider does not work on this drive?
[13:36] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: As I said before...
[13:36] <clu3l3ss> i've started gparted from a terminal window with sudo so it's not related to missing rights
[13:36] <clu3l3ss> at least i hope so
[13:36] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: You need to re-boot using a live-CD. Partitions currently in use cannot be resized.
[13:36] <clu3l3ss> i'm a linux newbi
[13:36] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: No worry :)
[13:36] <clu3l3ss> I am currently chatting from a live cd
[13:36] <clu3l3ss> the drive is unmounted
[13:36] <BBLLCC> aiguoaijia
[13:36] <BBLLCC> 愛國愛家
[13:36] <clu3l3ss> its an external usb drive with 500 gb
[13:36] <BBLLCC> oops sorry
[13:37] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: Think of it this way: You can't resize a partition that you're using. So, you need to boot from a live-CD so you can resize.
[13:37] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: Ah...
[13:37] <agent_white> I seee.
[13:37] <BBLLCC> 愛國
[13:37] <vegombrei> drmagoo: so i downloaded a tar.gz how do i install?
[13:37] <clu3l3ss> right, thats why i booted from live-cd.
[13:38] <agent_white> clu3l3ss: Well, if the HDD is external, no need to boot from live-cd.
[13:38] <agent_white> Reboot asnormal.
[13:38] <iamrohit7>  i just have a blank screen on login, after a fresh install of gnome. how to know whats the problem?
[13:38] <clu3l3ss> ok, noted
[13:38] <agent_white> But do not mount the external HDD.
[13:38] <clu3l3ss> i have to boot from live-cd cause i have no linux installed
[13:38] <debaser> gparted should just let you delete/erase it and start from scratch
[13:38] <clu3l3ss> i can erase and partition it manually, but then the darn tv does not accept it
[13:39] <debaser> presumably install a GPT, and set aside ~64m for the efi partition
[13:39] <debaser> what is the tv?
[13:39] <debaser> sometimes they are fickle are expect a fat32 partition etc
[13:39] <clu3l3ss> samsung 40" something. its my girlfriend's tv
[13:39] <debaser> yeah they need a fat32 partition i think
[13:39] <clu3l3ss> again, I have formatted the drive with the tv and it set the whole drive to xfs
[13:39] <debaser> but i could be wrong
[13:40] <debaser> oh ok
[13:40] <drmagoo> vegombrei: tar -xvzf file.tgz and the read the readme file
[13:40] <debaser> not possible
[13:40] <clu3l3ss> now i want to shrink xfs and add ntfs. xfs is used to record from tv, ntfs to playback movies. worked on the old drive thats broken. so i tried it with the new drive but now i can't shrink it
[13:41] <debaser> i don't think you'll be able to shrink it, but you might be able to do it in advance with xfs
[13:41] <debaser> but not from the tv
[13:41] <streulma> hello, with radeon R3 graphics 800Mhz and Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.04 the screen is scrambled in blocks
[13:42] <clu3l3ss> right, i HAVE done it in advance with the new drive cause it had worked with the old drive. now when i do this with gparted, the tv complains and wants to format the drive. presumably cause there've been some firmware updates in the meantime
[13:42] <vegombrei> drmagoo: its tar7.tgz
[13:42] <debaser> ah ok
[13:42] <zykotick9> vegombrei: if this is a source install, you might want to look into checkinstall (see "/msg ubottu checkinstall" for some details)
[13:43] <debaser> i'm leaning towards it being something Samsung might need to help with then
[13:43] <debaser> but could be wildly wrong
[13:43] <debaser> could also just buy a cheap hardrive
[13:43] <clu3l3ss> yeah, well they suck so I wont even try. but now i get finally what you say: gparted my be a capable editor but does not (yet) support shrinking xfs
[13:44] <debaser> I'd say its more a limitation of the braindead tv interaction
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> keep it ontopic please
[13:44] <debaser> if you tried installing a separate xfs partition before and it insists on reformatting
[13:44] <streulma> and I'm trying to setup Ubuntu on my Asus X205 netbook, there is already NO patch for sound
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> !sound | streulma
[13:45] <OerHeks> streulma, how much ram did you give that r3 in your bios ? according to this page, 512, is barely minimum
[13:45] <iamrohit7>  i accidentally removed some packages from gnome-shell after which i just see a blank screen on my desktop. how do i fix it?
[13:45] <clu3l3ss> okay, thats that
[13:45] <streulma> lotuspsychje Dummy Sound :-)
[13:46] <baja> is there a better version of ktorrent that has minimize button
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> iamrohit7: maybe recoverymode/fix broken packages can help?
[13:46] <baja> is there a better version of ktorrent that has minimize button
[13:46] <debaser> clu3l3ss: not necessarily, i'd asked around a bit more
[13:46] <iamrohit7> nothing with sudo apt-get -f install
[13:46] <clu3l3ss> another question: I've booted from an ubuntu live-cd which lists my paritions in file manager. when I click on my data partition of ssd1, I'm getting"unable to access SSD1_data", no object for d-bus interface
[13:46] <debaser> clu3l3ss: I'm just here because i've had a few beers, i know next to nothing about linux
[13:46] <syntroPi> qbittorrent? deluge? utorrent-server?
[13:47] <iamrohit7> lotuspsychje : nothing with sudo apt-get -f install
[13:47] <OerHeks> baja, ktorrent has got a minimize button, if you install it on Unity, the button could be on the top panel
[13:47] <baja> im on trusty
[13:47] <baja> it was installed default with os
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | iamrohit7
[13:48] <syntroPi> the minimize and maximize buttons come from the window manager
[13:48] <baja> i can see
[13:48] <drmagoo> vegombrei: same command: tar -zvxf file.tar7.gz
[13:48] <baja> pls help
[13:48] <debaser> baja: who would win between a dessicated frog and a wounded moth?
[13:48] <baja> debaser haha
[13:49] <debaser> baja: :p hehe srt
[13:49] <baja> is that a command
[13:49] <debaser> sorry* no
[13:49] <clu3l3ss> its his beers talking
[13:49] <baja> haha
[13:49] <debaser> I'm channelling ricky gervais
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[13:49] <vegombrei> it says ...sudo: aptitude: command not found
[13:49] <baja> so i cant move ktorrent or minimize
[13:50] <vegombrei> must i install aptitude
[13:50] <clu3l3ss> heres my support question
[13:50] <clu3l3ss> I've booted from an ubuntu live-cd which lists my paritions in file manager. when I click on my data partition of ssd1, I'm getting"unable to access SSD1_data", no object for d-bus interface
[13:51] <BryantGumble> Why can i not access a LUKS partition created on a different instalation even if i correctly enter the passphrase?
[13:51] <iamrohit7> lotuspsychje : how do i know what packages are missing if any?
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> iamrohit7: thats what fix broken packages does, from recoverymode it does it for you
[13:51] <debaser> BryantGumble: you can, but the process is a bit hairy; sometimes you want the passphrase and at others times the password
[13:52] <BryantGumble> As in the user account password?
[13:52] <debaser> yep
[13:52] <BryantGumble> ah
[13:52] <zykotick9> debaser: ahhh... not in my experience (with LUKS)
[13:52] <zykotick9> BryantGumble: ^
[13:53] <debaser> well, last time i needed to mount an encrypted home partition from an old system, i needed both
[13:53] <BryantGumble> Is there another solution to have a file container encrypted (maybe like OS X does with DMG)
[13:53] <zykotick9> BryantGumble: "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/foo fooname" then "sudo mount /dev/mapper/fooname /MOUNTPOINT" should work?
[13:53] <syntroPi> Does 15.04 contain a complete Gnome 3.14 or is it still a mix of 3.10. 3.12 and 3.14 (gedit, evolution and all those)?
[13:53] <clu3l3ss> brb
[13:54] <debaser> I haven't looked into it too much, but yeah there would be
[13:54] <debaser> just trying to think of the better ones
[13:58] <debaser> password-based encryption on 7zip archives might get you some of the way there
[13:58] <debaser> otherwise, I'd probably roll my own
[13:58] <debaser> what exactly is the use case?
[14:03] <Lewoco_> Why does accessibility in firefox work in gnome but not xfce4?
[14:04] <dreamcat4> hi. i'm having trouble booting 15.04 with systemd. have not tried 'safe mode' yet. my error is this one: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765586
[14:04] <dreamcat4> should i raise a bug on ubuntu or add to this debian bug? - it is about systemd
[14:05] <brmph> syntroPi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME
[14:06] <dreamcat4> or can i disable 'systemd-gpt-auto-generator' entirely ?
[14:06] <brmph> gedit is a standard text editor syntroPi
[14:07] <dreamcat4> i have an MBR partition table
[14:07] <TheEagerPadawan> any one around here who can help me out setting up adrift on my system (http://www.adrift.co/download)
[14:07] <brmph> dreamcat4: Is this still a gpt setup?
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> !info adrift
[14:08] <TheEagerPadawan> nope no package available it isn't that simple
[14:08] <dreamcat4> brmph: no. it sucks.
[14:08] <dreamcat4> can't boot. can't do anything.
[14:09] <dreamcat4> (well i can run a prompt actually)
[14:09] <brmph> dreamcat4: I asked a simple question, your opinion was not asked for.
[14:10] <debaser> aspergers alert.
[14:10] <dreamcat4> brmph: your question was already answered by my previous comment...
[14:10] <dreamcat4> before you even asked it
[14:11] <brmph> debaser: You have been asked to keep the channel on support.
[14:11] <brmph> !attitude | dreamcat4  if you want help, I would read this
[14:11] <debaser> i missed it, but i shall continue supporting it
[14:12] <brmph> dreamcat4: What you lack here is any relavant details to be honest.
[14:13] <syntroPi> brmph, yes i know its the Gnome standard text editor, but why is it still 3.10? http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/vivid/gedit
[14:13] <dreamcat4> brmph: i only asked a simple question: raise bug on ubuntu or debian bug tracker.
[14:13] <dreamcat4> that doesn't require a huge amount of extra info on IRC... that info should be put on the bugreport
[14:13] <syntroPi> its a mix and therefore a mess, not really 3.14 nor any previous version
[14:14] <brmph> dreamcat4: And that is a question that cannot be answered without you showing this is the case. You are not using critical thinking and jusat responding emotionally.
[14:15] <brmph> dreamcat4: Why would we say to add this to debian, this is ubuntu support?
[14:15] <dreamcat4> brmph: because it's an issue about systemd... which comes from debian
[14:15] <brmph> syntroPi: Not sure other than the wiki.
[14:15] <brmph> sigh
[14:15] <dreamcat4> sorry if that's not clear the reason i am asking... but that's the reason
[14:15] <syntroPi> brmph, it exists already but its not official http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gedit/gedit_3.14.3-0ubuntu1~vivid1_amd64.deb
[14:16] <bekks> dreamcat4: You are using Ubuntu, so raise an Ubuntu bug.
[14:16] <syntroPi> so why is this a patchwork in official repos?
[14:16] <dreamcat4> not hard was it brmph ? i go use ubuntu bug tracker. problem solved.
[14:16] <brmph> syntroPi: The wiki says it's all there but some packages in a different ppa I believe.
[14:16] <dreamcat4> thanks you bekks
[14:16] <brmph> dreamcat4: Excellent.
[14:17] <brmph> dreamcat4: You were told what you  wanted to hear, by the way.
[14:17] <bekks> dreamcat4: The answer was clear before you asked the question :)
[14:18] <syntroPi> brmph, im on 14.10 and im thinking if an upgrade is worth it, i already have Gnome 3.14 from gnome3-team ppa so im confused why its still not updated in official 15.04 repos
[14:18] <brmph> syntroPi: 14.10 is days from eol
[14:19] <WarboyIndia> hey! why does echo $0 returns my current shell name? What's the catch here? how does this work?
[14:19] <syntroPi> brmph, hmm great then i have to setup all my stuff again :-/ why isnt it rolling release?...
[14:19] <brmph> syntroPi: Never been a ubuntu rolling
[14:19] <EriC^^> WarboyIndia: i think it's like argv[0]
[14:20] <brmph> syntroPi: There are the long term releases, 5 years support
[14:20] <EriC^^> WarboyIndia: cp /bin/bash ~/blabla then ./blabla echo $0 will return blabla
[14:20] <WarboyIndia> EriC^^, ok bro thanks
[14:21] <WarboyIndia> EriC^^, mean it will return the current program name?
[14:21] <syntroPi> yeah ubuntu is great, but id love to see something which has the most recent packages in a consistent way (some bugs wont hurt too much) if i dont have to resetup every half year
[14:21] <EriC^^> WarboyIndia: yeah
[14:21] <brmph> syntroPi: Latest packages, why?
[14:22] <dreamcat4> bekks: actually i should do both. First raise a report in ubuntu bugs, then comment on the existing debian bug so they can see / get anything relevant useful out of it to upstream
[14:22] <syntroPi> brmph, because of the exciting features in the newest versions, maybe its just me
[14:23] <brmph> syntroPi: Heh, well we all have our own issues. ;)
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> !latest | syntroPi
[14:24] <syntroPi> brmph, for servers i can understand that one might want to use a more conservative approach, but id like to have the most recent versions on my desktop for testing the new features, which always ends up in a ppa mess... once resolved the ppas working properly together i have to resetup those every half year, wihch is kinda annoying
[14:24] <jrbt> Hello.
[14:24] <jrbt> I have an issue with my Ubuntu Click install
[14:25] <jrbt> I've test to install a kit (ubuntu 15.04 armhf kit) from the ubuntu-sdk to develop Ubuntu Touch app.
[14:25] <brmph> jrbt: "click install"?
[14:25] <jrbt> and I have had:
[14:25] <jrbt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11821038/
[14:25] <sammyg> how to chain output of two terminal commands and then pipe them to printer?
[14:25] <syntroPi> lotuspsychje, yes i know that and i still am pleased with the ubuntu experience, but i really dont like those half year cycles, just my opinion though
[14:26] <brmph> jrbt: Not sure, but you might get some info from developers in the #touch channel
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: you can always suggest things in #ubuntu-devel
[14:26] <debaser> sammyg: man 'tee' and perhaps pipe it to lpt*
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> syntroPi: or join the mailing lists
[14:26] <brmph> jrbt: Sorry #ubuntu-touch
[14:27] <jrbt> Ok.
[14:27] <jrbt> thanks brmph!
[14:27] <brmph> jrbt: Was not sure, it seems supported here, just never seen anyone here messing with it.
[14:29] <debaser> what's an interesting channel to lurk in?
[14:29] <syntroPi> sammyg, maybe you could read about it here to find a starting point for google searches http://serverfault.com/questions/171095/how-do-i-join-two-named-pipes-into-single-input-stream-in-linux
[14:34] <tyer> When i login to my ubuntu box i dont have any panel how do i fix this?
[14:35] <tyer> I am using ubuntu 14.04
[14:39] <ioria> tyer have you tried the Guest account ?
[14:39] <tyer> ioria will try that
[14:40] <sammyg> debaser: "author Richard M. Stallman", et al
[14:41] <sammyg> wow! i have not encountered his name on man pages until now :)
[14:41] <tyer> ioria that worked
[14:42] <sammyg> syntroPi: thanks! i found one that worked
[14:42] <ioria> tyer so, could be something wrong in your .config or .compiz
[14:43] <brmph> tyer: Did you uncheck unity in compiz?
[14:43] <sammyg> syntroPi: i just wanted output from fdisk and parted on paper
[14:43] <sammyg> syntroPi: i used this one : "(fdisk -l /dev/sda && parted -l /dev/sda) | lp"
[14:43] <tyer> ioria how? i am a totall noob with ubuntu
[14:44] <bekks> sammyg: That will work only if fdisk is successful.
[14:44] <sammyg> i used && operator but i don't know if that's a must... anyway... it worked
[14:44] <ioria> tyer you could mv the folder to .config-old, for example ... it's hidden folder , press ctlr h
[14:44] <sammyg> bekks: ok... is there a simpler, more less error prone method?
[14:44] <sammyg> it must be done on one line...
[14:45] <sammyg> otherwise it's not simple enough :)
[14:45] <tyer> ioria okay
[14:45] <ioria> tyer .compiz-old, and reboot
[14:45] <bekks> sammyg: use ; instead of &&
[14:46] <sammyg> bekks: you mean semicolon? why is that?
[14:46] <bekks> sammyg: Because ; separates commands.
[14:46] <sammyg> also, why would fdisk not be successful? non mbr disk or what?
[14:46] <sammyg> ok
[14:47] <tyer> ioria cant find .compiz-old
[14:47] <bekks> sammyg: fdisk wirll not work correctly on GPT labeled disks.
[14:47] <bekks> *will
[14:47] <sammyg> ok
[14:47] <ioria> tyer you have to spot compiz, not compiz-old, compiz-old is the new name
[14:48] <ioria> tyer or compiz-1,
[14:48] <sammyg> bekks: is there a command to probe for mbr or gpt disk?
[14:48] <tyer> ioria found it
[14:48] <tyer> ioria should i delete that file?
[14:48] <ioria> tyer you have to backup the two  folders
[14:48] <tyer> or folder
[14:48] <ioria> tyer save under new names
[14:48] <sammyg> but then you need an if and an if else statement and so on... so it's more of a bash script then... so that would break the similicity
[14:49] <ioria> tyer so, you can restore it if you want
[14:49] <tyer> ioria okay thanks :)
[14:49] <bekks> sammyg: parted should do the job. Why do you need both on a paper?
[14:49] <sammyg> the commands must be within parentheses like (command & command)
[14:49] <sammyg> bekks: as part of a disk analysis
[14:49] <bekks> sammyg: Why do you need more than one command at all?
[14:50] <bekks> sammyg: Which information in particular does fdisk/parted give you which the other doesnt?
[14:50] <asus202e> h i there! I have been trying to remap my brightness up/down keys on my asus machine running ubuntu14.x. Currently its Fn+f4 and Fn+f5. I would like to remap it as F4 and F5. Can someone help?
[14:51] <sammyg> because of display format and partition table entry order
[14:51] <brmph> asus202e: Release and desktop? For the channel.
[14:51] <bekks> sammyg: that information is irrelevant :)
[14:52] <asus202e> asus f202e laptop, ubuntu 14.04lte. I was able to do the same for vol up and down a few months back. but forgot how to access it.....
[14:52] <brmph> asus202e: If this is unity you would use ccsm I believe
[14:52] <sammyg> bekks: ah yes, but it's easier on my eyes seeing sizes in "human" values (as the du -h option calls it) of mega, giga, and so on
[14:53] <bekks> sammyg: human readable values are inaccurate.
[14:53] <sammyg> bekks: besides, i wanted to see if it is possible to have them both! ;)
[14:53] <bekks> sammyg: Especially when it comes to detailed analysis.
[14:53] <jrbt> Ola
[14:53] <sammyg> bekks: ok, maybe not so detailed then... :D
[14:53] <jrbt> I have some issues with the default kernel installation
[14:53] <jrbt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11821137/
[14:53] <jrbt> I don't want reboot :D
[14:54] <sammyg> bekks: while at it, you know a command that will print the disk partition table strucutres in full?
[14:54] <bekks> sammyg: parted
[14:55] <frank1e> I'm watching naked gun 33 1/3 now
[14:57] <frank1e> the intro already makes my day
[14:57] <sammyg> bekks: i was think more like something that will show me EBR entries, hex values, and linked (or rather screwed) second EBR tables on same disk... perhaps a more verbose version of parted?
[14:57] <brmph> frank1e: Do you need ubuntu support?
[14:57] <frank1e> brmph, Sorry, wrong channel. I may be a little high.
[14:58] <asus202e> anyone?
[14:58] <AaronTheGreat> Hi, I have a big problem, sort off :P... I have a ubuntu server installation on a laptop mobo and its currently inside a skybox. I need a way of having a media centre on it through the various ports. I am thinking of buying a usb-to-hdmi converter of amazon but I have a problem with what to do... How would I go about running a media centre on a ubuntu server style box. Its not just going to be a media centre,
[14:58] <AaronTheGreat> Its going to control alot of things in my house... What sort of software should I start with, And another thing, I only want the Media centre on one screen, Is there a way to run a java GUI/swing or anything else on another screen...
[14:58] <bekks> sammyg: parted connects and displays these ininformation automagically.
[14:59] <brmph> asus202e: I asked a question you did not answer, and went ahead and answered on the most common DE here.
[15:00] <asus202e> brmph- sorry, newbie here...whats DE? I thought I answered what you asked -  laptop, asus f202e running ubuntu 14.04...did i misunderstand?
[15:02] <sammyg> bekks: i figured that much... but it's strange... i have fedora next to ubuntu... and when i installed fedora, i chose standard partitions, no LVM, and it installed itself and is working, but for some reason "parted -l" shows my last two partitions (fedora) as being "primary"... secondary linux extended partition added? i had one extended partition with windows... so it's windows, ubuntu, and fedora
[15:02] <drew_> Hey... Completely new to Linux. Need to edit my hosts, but when I try to type in the editor, nothing happens. Am I missing something? In the text editor, I typed in "sudo vim /etc/hosts" got the list, but cant type to edit.
[15:03] <AaronTheGreat> Tried nano?
[15:03] <sammyg> bekks: the fedora partition sits outside of boundry of extended partition, F type, while ubuntu sits inside it... any idea?
[15:03] <AaronTheGreat> "sudo nano /etc/hosts"
[15:03] <EriC^^> !hosts | drew_
[15:03] <sammyg> any good text-mode (or gui) disk manager or sector for linux?
[15:04] <sammyg> i meant disk editor...
[15:04] <sammyg> or sector editor...
[15:04] <drew_> Thanks Aaron. That worked.
[15:04] <AaronTheGreat> :)
[15:05] <asus202e> RE: CCSM and unity.....I have a GUI, if that is Unity...how would one go about getting CCSM to work?
[15:05] <Razzdoll> Hello everyone. I have a problem with ubuntu (15.04) regarding videos. They work with sound too but when I startup VLC MEdia player, there is no sound until I skip a few seconds into it. And with the videos on Facebook that I watch. They do play, and have sound, but they stop after a few seconds in, and the videos could be 5-6 minutes each. Does anyone have any ideas?
[15:06] <bekks> sammyg: I have no clue what you are talking about, whithout the output of fdisk/parted and because I havent understand what your were saying due to the excessive usage of .
[15:06] <brmph> asus202e: By installing compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:07] <asus202e> I see. thanks! Let me look it up and come back in a bit.
[15:07] <brmph> asus202e: Be very careful in changing ccsm, have a backup of the original setup.
[15:07] <AaronTheGreat> How can I display things to a ubunut server screen, Like a GUI or something... I want to display my GUI
[15:07] <AaronTheGreat> GUI's in java
[15:07] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: GUI for what in particular?
[15:07] <AaronTheGreat> Anything, I'm planning for this to control my entire home.
[15:08] <AaronTheGreat> Wireless HDMI's upstairs
[15:08] <AaronTheGreat> etc...
[15:08] <asus202e> I was able to change the vol+/- keys in the past, it was rather simple. Just forgot how I did it...someone helped me on this forum then.
[15:08] <AaronTheGreat> One needs to be a media centre
[15:08] <AaronTheGreat> Which I can make if I had a platform to build on, Something to display to a screen
[15:08] <brmph> asus202e: Same desktop?
[15:08] <AaronTheGreat> If you get what I mean...
[15:08] <vfw> asus202e: notes, notes, notes.... ;)
[15:08] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: Install a desktop environment, which I dont recommend on a server.
[15:09] <AaronTheGreat> I know, Thats why I need another way... I dont want it to be like a heavy duty Desktop enviroment...
[15:09] <asus202e> :) I was hoping the Govt would be doing that for me and all I had to do was google it!
[15:09] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: There is no other way :)
[15:09] <AaronTheGreat> What about the frame-buffer? Mplayer uses that to display video
[15:11] <en1gma> how do i stop ubuntu 15.04 amd64 from turning off my hdd? (its 5400 rpm and slow) everytime i dont use it for a couple mins and i want to use an app it takes forever to get up to rpm so it can read) so the app opens really slow
[15:13] <brmph> en1gma: Seems like a guess, are you sure?
[15:13] <AaronTheGreat> yea, bekks theres a way to display things with the framebuffer
[15:13] <AaronTheGreat> "http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/33596/no-framebuffer-device-how-to-enable-it"
[15:14] <asus202e> compiz settings: guess its not what am looking for - has something called keybindings, but not for actuall keyboard remaping?
[15:14] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: I know. But you dont want to use a desktop environment using a framebuffer.
[15:14] <TvL2386> hi guys, I have a new laptop... Installed 15.04, using Gnome. Everything worked fine. Then I tried to play minecraft and the fps was horrible. I did some digging and noticed I was using nouveau. So I followed http://www.debugpoint.com/2015/04/5-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-15-04-essentials/ and installed xorg-edgers ppa and installed nvidia driver. Now gdm won't start anymore
[15:14] <TvL2386> I purged the ppa and all nvidia* packages and see nouveau gets loaded again, but gdm still won't start
[15:14] <TvL2386> I get the error: No screens found (EE)
[15:14] <brmph> asus202e: What you did before is onloy relevant if it was in unity.
[15:15] <brmph> only*
[15:15] <AaronTheGreat> bekks, Its not a sort of desktop enviroment. Its for playing films... etc? a menu or something for the different TV's... Why cant I use a desktop on a framebuffer?
[15:15] <vfw> asus202e: http://askubuntu.com/questions/331626/how-to-add-keyboard-shortcuts
[15:16] <AaronTheGreat> Better question, bekks... is the framebuffer reliable?
[15:16] <brmph> vfw: Not going to work in unity
[15:17] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: Of course it is, but it is not intended to be used as display device for a desktop environment.
[15:17] <AaronTheGreat> What is it intended to be used for?
[15:17] <vfw> asus202e: http://askubuntu.com/questions/181341/how-do-i-set-a-custom-keyboard-shortcut-to-control-volume
[15:17] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: Small things like being used as display device for a single video.
[15:17] <asus202e> vrf- this was what i did in the past to remap volume keys from fn+f11 to F11 etc....but you wud see it does not have options for brightness
[15:18] <asus202e> thanks, btw!>)
[15:18] <AaronTheGreat> hm, ok. I dont want a desktop style enviroment. just a black screen which I can write to will do... will X11 do that?
[15:18] <AaronTheGreat> * Will a certain X enviroment do that?
[15:19] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: You said you want to use multiple applications on it - so why not using a small desktop environment?
[15:19] <asus202e> how does one make a custom shortcut in the keyboardshortcut menu (re:vfw) for brightness controlls....It only currently lists volume controls
[15:19] <brmph> asus202e: i CCSM
[15:19] <brmph> IN*
[15:19] <AaronTheGreat> By applications, I mean... The server will have multiple HDMI outputs, Into wireless HDMI's to TV's allround my house
[15:20] <AaronTheGreat> I want my software, I dont mind which lanuage... Il figure it out :P to work on each one separately
[15:20] <eXistenZe> hey guys
[15:20] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: google blackbox, fluxbox, windowmaker, twm fvwm2 xfce4 etc. etc. etc
[15:20] <asus202e> brmph- thanks, I dowloaded the CCSM and have it open.
[15:20] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: So you want desktop environment for being able to control which output is being used. You cannot do so using a framebuffer.
[15:20] <eXistenZe> how can I find the name of the package to uninstall the icon in the systemtray fo instant messaging?
[15:21] <AaronTheGreat> Sort of, Theres not going to be a mouse/keyboard plugged in
[15:21] <AaronTheGreat> Arduinos for the win :P
[15:21] <brmph> asus202e: I never reassign keys, so this was just a point to where to go.
[15:21] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: lxde, and others...
[15:21] <asus202e> CCSM has what it calls keybindings but not keyboard remapping...am I missing smth?
[15:21] <sammyg> bekks: see if this helps you help me :)
[15:21] <sammyg> bekks: fedora paste: http://ur1.ca/n02gs
[15:22] <en1gma> what is ubuntu command for 'ipconfig' because when i use it, it is found in "net tools" and when i tell apt to install it, it alreadys say i have the newest installed.
[15:22] <asus202e> i see, thanks
[15:22] <en1gma> is it ifconfig
[15:22] <en1gma> crap it is
[15:22] <AaronTheGreat> uhm... I dont need a desktop... Start menu... etc... I just need something I can draw to on multiple displays, Just remember I have to sleep so I dont want the server to be chewing up electricity running all of the other stuff, like start menus etc...
[15:22] <asus202e> @brmph thanks
[15:22] <AaronTheGreat> and creating a earthquake downstairs xD
[15:23] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: You just want a window manager like fluxbox http://www.fluxbox.org/
[15:23] <bekks> sammyg: And whats the issue?
[15:23] <asus202e> btw, how do you telll the chat forum that I am replying to someone in particular? the @name doesnt seem to work
[15:24] <brmph> asus202e: You can tab complete nicks
[15:24] <OerHeks> asus202e, it does.
[15:24] <OerHeks> but you can drop the @
[15:24] <AaronTheGreat> Hm, By window manager... Does that... create a blank screen on each output, and has a manager on one? It doesnt expain it very well...
[15:24] <asus202e> brmph: I see, cool! thanks
[15:25] <brmph> asus202e: No problem, this is a great place for support. ;)
[15:25] <AaronTheGreat> and By... "light weight" I mean, A black screen...
[15:25] <AaronTheGreat> I dont need multiple windows...
[15:25] <AaronTheGreat> Just one thing rendering something to a output
[15:26] <asus202e> yeah, it is amazing. I am kinda new to the opensource way but I see it as the only way forward
[15:26] <sammyg> bekks: i created two "logical" partitions in Anaconda... why does it say "primary"? are they in fact primary then? or is the original F type extended partition of windows, linking to some second Extended partition table? linking the Extended boot records of those Fedora partitions to it?
[15:27] <bekks> sammyg: Forget about all that linking.
[15:27] <sammyg> bekks: if you look at Ubuntu partitions... they are in boundry of F type extended partition... why not Fedora partitions?
[15:28] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: Fluxbox is just blank screen, (color or image us up to the user). You right click for options, (apps etc).
[15:28] <sammyg> bekks: now you know i feel :) also... what's the difference between extended linux partition, and extended DOS partition or windows extended?
[15:28] <bekks> sammyg: You can have up to 4 primary partitions, and up to 16 logical partitions in an extended partition, which can be created instead of a "primary". Extended partitions have the primary flag, too.
[15:28] <AaronTheGreat> Ah, So... :) I get it
[15:28] <AaronTheGreat> Il give it a go, Il be back in a sec
[15:28] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: And yes, it can be black.
[15:28] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: There are others.
[15:28] <bekks> sammyg: and you are mixing up partition types and filesystem types :)
[15:29] <OerHeks> sammyg, there is no dos/windows/linux/fedora extended, just extended.
[15:29] <en1gma> i asked about a setting to disable powering down of the hard drives or a more detailed package that lets us disable that setting. please
[15:29] <AaronTheGreat> :3, So no gui for fluxbox or anything? when I open a application is there any Menus? Like close buttons? or something?
[15:29] <AaronTheGreat> I just want to draw to it
[15:29] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: "draw to it"?
[15:30] <AaronTheGreat> hm... Do you know how java works?
[15:30] <AaronTheGreat> You can draw images to the window
[15:30] <AaronTheGreat> or draw to the backbuffer and draw that image to the screen
[15:30] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: (Pretty soon, we will talk you into asking your *real* question.)
[15:30] <brmph> en1gma: This HD issue seems like a guess, I would look at the hardware in general and the DE?
[15:30] <sammyg> bekks: why would an extended partition have a "primary" flag? :/ not logical?...
[15:30] <en1gma> setting to turn down powering of the hard drives please
[15:30] <AaronTheGreat> vfw, what do you mean?
[15:31] <bekks> sammyg: The extended partition is a primary partition acting as a container for logical partitions.
[15:31] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: Was a failed attempt at humor.
[15:31] <en1gma> how do i disable power down hard drives please
[15:31] <bekks> sammyg: thats why it is a primary.
[15:31] <AaronTheGreat> vfw, :P
[15:31] <brmph> !patience | en1gma
[15:31] <AaronTheGreat> Il give fluxbox a go, brb
[15:31] <OerHeks> sammyg, only the partitions IN extended are logical, extended itself is a primairy partition that is expandable
[15:31] <vfw> AaronTheGreat: Okeydokey
[15:32] <en1gma> i just want to make sure everyone dont lead me into another direction so i am being very specific what i want to do
[15:32] <OerHeks> e.g. you can put 13 partitions in an extended afaik
[15:32] <bekks> OerHeks: 15 :)
[15:32] <vfw> OerHeks: Don't know if "expandable" is the right word...
[15:32] <ioria> !info  hdparm
[15:32] <sammyg> bekks: how am i mixing up partition type and filesystem type?
[15:32] <en1gma> thanks
[15:32] <en1gma> will try now
[15:32] <brmph> en1gma: If you want help here answer questions and give details, the method you are using is faulty.
[15:32] <sammyg> OerHeks: don't linux extended partitions have a different signature??
[15:32] <OerHeks> sammyg, no.
[15:33] <bekks> sammyg: by talking about "dos/windows/whatever extended" partition types, which do not exist. Those are filesystem types (not to be mixed up with actual filesystems).
[15:33] <OerHeks> there is no linux extended.
[15:33] <bekks> sammyg: There are nor linux extended. There are Primary and Extended.
[15:33] <sammyg> ok guys :)
[15:33] <en1gma> brmph any setting i set in hdparm will override ubuntu power saving features?
[15:34] <vfw> sammyg: An extended partition is same as primary partition.  An extended partition just has logical ones within, (where the primary does not).
[15:34] <vfw> sammyg: sort of....
[15:34] <sammyg> can you please tell me why or how the last two partitions are "primary" while ubuntu ones are "logical"? this is what i want to know
[15:34] <en1gma> i dont see a power saving feature that turns drive off or on in hdparm help settings yet
[15:34] <vfw> sammyg: The reason for extended partitions is just so that you can have more than 4
[15:34] <en1gma> wait i see them i just want to make sure ubuntu dont try and override
[15:35] <OerHeks> logicals are IN extended. if you type sudo fdisk -l # you would seee the overlap
[15:35] <vfw> sammyg: Hince the name "extended"
[15:35] <bekks> sammyg: because they are primary partitions. you have a primary, then an extended containing three logical partitions, followed by two primary after the extended.
[15:35] <bekks> sammyg: whats the issue? :)
[15:35] <OerHeks> now you have been answered 3 times :-D
[15:35] <vfw> sammyg: and if you look at partition sizes, you will see that the extended partition is totals the sizes of it's logical ones.
[15:36] <vfw> ... starting to sink in ...
[15:37] <vfw> sammyg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
[15:38] <vfw> (a website is worth a 1,000 words)
[15:38] <asus202e> what do they mean by "Hot keys should be assigned to:  /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/indicator-brightness/indicator-brightness-adjust --up  and  /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/indicator-brightness/indicator-brightness-adjust --down" in http://askubuntu.com/questions/240857/what-commands-will-change-my-screens-brightness, last answer?
[15:38] <sammyg> vfW: i know that extended is for more than 4 partitions, and i know that extended is not a partition itself, or acting as "container" in one 16 byte MBR entry and referencing to an EBR extended boot record... i know all that
[15:39] <vfw> sammyg: Then ask your *real* question.
[15:39] <bekks> sammyg: And your question have been answered. Read the partition offsets as being printed by fdisk and parted.
[15:40] <sammyg> ok, i will have a better look at it
[15:40] <sammyg> i have to go afk now
[15:40] <bekks> sammyg: I take that as "no further issues" :)
[15:40] <vfw> sammyg: Have a look at the webisite I sent
[15:40] <sammyg> my question was why those two last partitions are "primary" when they are logical... if they are assumed to be logical partitions (and asked to be so in Fedora installation)...
[15:41] <bekks> sammyg: I told you.
[15:41] <bekks> sammyg: they are not logical, but plain primary partitions, as can be clearly seen.
[15:41] <sammyg> thank you so far! :) appreciated! even if i am a bit confused now... :D
[15:42] <user32> hi, does anybody use an canon multi function printer with auto duplex mode?
[15:42] <sammyg> oh ok, then fedora did not create logical partitions for me... like i asked of it... hmm
[15:42] <user32> and use the printer with the gutenprint driver?
[15:42] <vfw> sammyg: fdisk -l  will tell you what you have
[15:45]  * TJ- wonders if sammyg confused logical partitions with Logical Volumes
[15:46] <vfw> TJ-: Good point.
[15:46] <OerHeks> TJ-, he expected Fedora to make an extended too, with logical ones, if i understand it sofar
[15:47] <asus202e> hi, how can I access /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/?
[15:48] <vfw> OerHeks: I really don't know what he was tring to find out, but I also think that the user should take a hand in the partitioning process, the user needs to decide how the disk(s) are partitioned.
[15:50] <vfw> asus202e: Define "access"
[15:50] <vfw> asus202e: (Re-state your question.)
[15:51] <asus202e> well, they say here http://askubuntu.com/questions/240857/what-commands-will-change-my-screens-brightness, last answer: hotkeys should be assigned to /opt/extras.ubuntu.com etc....I am unable to understand how I would go about it
[15:52] <vfw> asus202e: http://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/UnityHotkeys.html
[15:53] <vfw> !hotkeys | asus202e
[15:54] <vfw> !keyboard | asus202e
[15:55] <asus202e> vfw, new to forums here. pl explain !hotkey
[15:56] <asus202e> ubottu: thanksfor keytouch lead. will look in
[15:57] <asus202e> ubottu: really?
[15:57] <brmph> asus202e: Not the bot trigger above it's message
[15:57] <brmph> Note*
[15:57] <vfw> !ubottu | asus202e
[15:58] <asus202e> too sci-fi. wow!
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[15:58] <brmph> !ops
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[16:01] <en1gma> what is the best way to become perm sudo in a term? i know its not recommended but every command i do in the term im using sudo so i need it so i dont have to type it all the time
[16:01] <en1gma> mostly for airshark
[16:02] <io> en1gma: sudo -i
[16:02] <en1gma> thanks
[16:02] <io> but be careful with that
[16:02] <en1gma> i will. it just for these special apps that require it everytime and im in those alot
[16:03] <vfw> en1gma: Special apps that require it?  Not sure you are about to do the right thing here....
[16:03] <vfw> en1gma: But that is your business... (never mind).
[16:05] <TJ-> I'm finding v4.1 significantly faster, and more responsive, than the default kernels
[16:06] <brmph> TJ-: Same here.
[16:17] <rba1988> hello
[16:19] <rba1988> I just upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 and see that systemd is running. However I can still use upstart services via sudo service someservice resetart. And I think there are other upstart services that are starting on boot. My question is, how do I remove these completely and purely use systemd? I'm thinking of just reinstalling 15.04...
[16:20] <OerHeks> rba1988, you still can use sudo service <name> with systemd, together with journalctl
[16:21] <OerHeks> systemctl restart name.service
[16:25] <AaronTheGreat> Hi, Im back... vfw? are there any potential security exploits in fluxbox? that I should be concerned about
[16:28] <rba1988> OerHeks, I have a feeling that some services are interfering with systemd stuff. For example, networking doesn't work at times. I have to reboot to get it to kick back in. Not sure what the cause it yet though. Same goes for lightdm. Mouse disappears on boot. I have to go to the terminal and do sudo service lightdm restart. I'm not familiar with systemd and currently learning it. But I think the transition
[16:28] <rba1988>  from 14.10 to 15.04 messed things up.
[16:33] <AaronTheGreat> vfw u there?
[16:39] <gagalicious> kvm virtual machine does not ping local area network i'm using virtio user "virt-manager --connect qemu:///session" it can access the internet but not the intranet. how do i solve this?
[16:40] <privateNodez> You need to bridge the interface
[16:45] <AaronTheGreat> Does anyone know if there are any exploits fluxbox, Im going to use it in a... secure enviroment... :P
[16:46] <bodhi_zazen> AaronTheGreat, no one can say there are not
[16:46] <bodhi_zazen> Use apparmor =)
[16:47] <Aurdino> hello, I was  downloading android-studio from terminal but the net disconnected so it could not complete. Then I again started the download but after the download it gave an error?
[16:49] <bodhi_zazen> So check the integrity of the download and if it is off, download it again
[16:58] <ig0r_> where is Firefox 39??
[16:59] <Johnny_Linux> canceled due to arson
[17:00] <brmph> ig0r_: Give it a day or so, should be in the repos.
[17:01] <TJ-> hmmm... I have Firefox 39 on 14.04
[17:02] <TJ-> Ahhh. "*** 39.0~b7+build1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 0  >>>    500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-next/ubuntu/ "
[17:03] <Johnny_Linux> 404
[17:08] <braiden> Have you ever noticed that at trade shows Microsoft is always the one giving away stress balls?
[17:09] <xangua> !ot
[17:10] <xar> to automate that run and an app be displayed in the menu bar?
[17:12] <xar> how to automate that run and an app be displayed in the menu bar?
[17:12] <trimakos> Hello everyone! :)
[17:12] <privateN2dez> hello!
[17:13] <mmidgett> I'm having problems with virtio storage speeds using qcow2 and nfs. In ubuntu 14.04 hdparm buffered disk reads are 57MB's and debain 7 is 97MB's for the same test on the same storage back end.
[17:17] <buu> Hey, is there anyway to get the ubuntu cifs/smb client to read remote filenames with colons in them?
[17:17] <AaronTheGreat> vfw? r u still here?
[17:20] <AaronTheGreat> Is it recomendid to put something like fluxbox on ubuntu server, I'm talking security wise... and performance... etc
[17:20] <bekks> buu: Dont use colons in sharenames. Most clients will not be able to access them.
[17:20] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: It is recommended to not put anything graphical on a server, securitywise.
[17:21] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: If you still do, just use a graphical desktop environment and disable all access methods that are unnecessary.
[17:21] <drmagoo> AaronTheGreat: as for performance, there should be no issue. As for security: How do you mean ?
[17:21] <AaronTheGreat> How would that effect security?
[17:21] <AaronTheGreat> as in, Is there any exploits in X11? or fluxbox, that would allow hackers... etc
[17:22] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: Every running program is a possible attack vector.
[17:22] <buu> bekks: Sure, but in this case it's a ubuntu client talking to a debian system
[17:22] <buu> It should be possible to read them
[17:22] <ioria> AaronTheGreat, the DE, is a server... X server, it means that is ready to accept :-)
[17:22] <bekks> buu: Chances are low, actually.
[17:23] <buu> I'll note the debian cifs client is fine with them
[17:23] <AaronTheGreat> Oh... :P, What do you mean by ready to accept?
[17:23] <buu> Maybe I can just use the debian one instead?
[17:23] <OerHeks> Biggest security risc is the user.
[17:23] <AaronTheGreat> risk
[17:23] <AaronTheGreat> and I'm not a security threat :P
[17:23] <privateN2dez> pebcak
[17:23] <ioria> AaronTheGreat, what does a server do usually ?
[17:23] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: The ones who tell others they arent, are the biggest ones ;)
[17:24] <drmagoo> AaronTheGreat: Can you give us more information, that would help us better answer you questions. Like what is the server going to be used for ?
[17:24] <AaronTheGreat> Allright
[17:25] <buu> is there a configuration option for the smb client someplace?
[17:25] <buu>  /etc/samba is only for the server right?
[17:25] <AaronTheGreat> The servers downstairs with alot of HDMI outputs, Theese outputs are going to be connected to TV's around the house, also I'm planning to get some Raspberry pi
[17:25] <AaronTheGreat> raspberry pi's to control lights
[17:25] <AaronTheGreat> Which are controlled by that
[17:25] <AaronTheGreat> Wait
[17:25] <AaronTheGreat> Let me correct that, "I am going to use some arduino leonardo's to control lights"
[17:25] <privateN2dez> why do you need to run X11 on the servers?
[17:26] <privateN2dez> will they be running graphical applications?
[17:26] <AaronTheGreat> The HDMI outputs are going to be linked to TV's and lapotp panels around my house
[17:26] <AaronTheGreat> Kinda, I'm not sure how I will do it yet, But anything that can render something to a output will do :P
[17:27] <mmidgett> AaronTheGreat, HDMI signals only good for about 30
[17:27] <AaronTheGreat> The server will run other things like samba shares, etc
[17:27] <drmagoo> AaronTheGreat: and are theses systems going to be connected to a wireless AP or to the internet ?
[17:27] <mmidgett> 30'
[17:27] <AaronTheGreat> Internet
[17:27] <AaronTheGreat> mmidgett I could use a cable... :P
[17:27] <privateN2dez> I did something similar with my raspberry pi's a while back
[17:27] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: A cable with a total length of no more than 30'
[17:28] <drmagoo> AaronTheGreat: what kind of router or firewall between them and the internet ? And are these systems going to be accessible from the internet?
[17:28] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: Otherwise you will need an active signal repeater.
[17:28] <mmidgett> thanks bekks that's what I was trying to tell him
[17:28] <bekks> mmidgett: :)
[17:28] <privateN2dez> I ran omxplayer (a headless video player for the pi) and used youtube-dl (a program that can stream video from most websites using flash player) to pipe flv stream data from youtube to omxplayer
[17:28] <drmagoo> damn my english sucks today :/
[17:28] <AaronTheGreat> The system will be connected to the internet... But I dont think its going to be port-forwarded
[17:29] <mmidgett> I've sent VGA over 100' using some vga externders
[17:29] <ioria> by the way, firefox 39 looks great. pity....
[17:29] <mmidgett> I think S video can do it nativly with out any help from amplifiers or extenders
[17:30] <AaronTheGreat> Doesn't matter how  I will get the HDMI to the target, I just need to run some home-made software to a specified outpit
[17:30] <AaronTheGreat> output
[17:30] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: So use a desktop environment.
[17:30] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: The answer stays the same :)
[17:30] <drmagoo> AaronTheGreat: if they are not "exposed" directly or indirectly (portforward) to the internet, there is no great security threats. But what are your concerns ?
[17:31] <privateN2dez> why not transfer video data over the network and use a headless pi near the output (tv, monitor, etc) to actually transcode and play the dat
[17:31] <AaronTheGreat> drmagoo, Say if it was... portforwarded to port 80... with a webcam on one of the rooms... would there be a threat... I didnt think ubuntu server could be hacked into if it didnt allow ssh
[17:31] <privateN2dez> rather then using a longass vga cable
[17:31] <AaronTheGreat> ^
[17:32] <AaronTheGreat> I want something light-weight to do this...
[17:32] <AaronTheGreat> Not a entire desktop chugging away in the background
[17:33] <privateN2dez> ethernet crossover cable?
[17:33] <drmagoo> AaronTheGreat: any service that you expose to the Internet is a vector for an attack. Think of your house, if you lock the door but leave window open, it is possible for someone to get in even if it is on the second floor ;)
[17:33] <AaronTheGreat> what sort of damage could hackers do to my server if I only had port 80 open with a HTML file saying "HI"
[17:34] <privateN2dez> depends on make & version of httpd as well as what userspace it's running in
[17:34] <drmagoo> AaronTheGreat: worst case is full (aka root) access to your system.
[17:34] <privateN2dez> as well as the configuration and some other things
[17:35] <buu> AaronTheGreat: If you're using popular well tested servers with the latest patches applied the odds are about 1 in a billion
[17:35] <buu> Assuming you aren't using php
[17:36] <AaronTheGreat> How bad would PHP be if it was something like <?php echo "Hi"; ?>
[17:36] <privateN2dez> it's perfectly safe =P
[17:37] <AaronTheGreat> oh... well... :p, I wont be port-forwarding any time soon... Another thing... I was going to go with Windows Server, Then I realised that Windows=NSA... And I'm super tight on privacy and security xD, so Im going with ubuntu server... I need somekind of low-end system... Not like a full-blown Ubuntu desktop
[17:37] <AaronTheGreat> Il be back later
[17:38] <buu> AUGH. SAMBA WHY ARE YOU THE DEVIL.
[17:38] <privateN2dez> https://www.nsa.gov/ia/_files/os/redhat/NSA_RHEL_5_GUIDE_v4.2.pdf
[17:39] <buu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/676304
[17:40] <privateN2dez> refer to page 184 of the nsa guide to see how they secure their samba setup ^^^
[17:40] <SchrodingersScat> buu: some others have problems with : too, afaik other OSs are to blame
[17:40] <abhimanyu> hi
[17:45] <yardlinux> I'm trying to open port 22 on my router and I see a public port range and a private port range. Is the public range the port that is internet facing?
[17:45] <ioria> buu in the win folder it shows ... but with a different filename
[17:45] <cryptodan_laptop> i have a quick question how fast are security vulnerabilities / cve's fixed in ubuntu once they are found?
[17:45] <OerHeks> buu, confirm that bugreport, if you want to get it fixed.
[17:45] <buu> SchrodingersScat: What do you mean other OSs? I'm using ubuntu and debian, and debian works
[17:46] <drmagoo> yardlinux: yes, most likely
[17:46] <ioria> buu but not in linux
[17:46] <buu> ioria: Last I checked debian and ubuntu are actually linux
[17:46] <ioria> buu yep, but you can ls fromterm
[17:49] <ioria> buu sorry it shows, with a different name too
[17:49] <ioria> buu CBYG&~9
[17:49] <yardlinux> drmagoo, so u suggest I change the public facing port # from 22 to some other high # and point it to port 22 internally?
[17:50] <ioria> buu when the original was ciccio:ciccio
[17:51] <drmagoo> yardlinux: yes, change it to something above 1024.
[17:51] <rypervenche> yardlinux: You could do that, if you don't want brute forcers to try to log into your system. Otherwise port 22 is also fine.
[17:52] <buu> Ok why does ubuntu have cifs-utils 6.0
[17:52] <rypervenche> yardlinux: If you only used keyed connections, then it doesn't matter so much. Buf if you use passwords, changing it to something above 1023 is smart. :)
[17:52] <buu> And debian has 6.4
[17:52] <ioria> buu win doesn't want : in its filename
[17:52] <buu> ioria: windows isn't involved
[17:52] <sloantothebone> Hi
[17:52] <xar> Is this how to display the value of a variable in a shell script? `myvar="abc"; echo $abc`
[17:52] <xar> Is this how to display the value of a variable in a shell script? `myvar="abc"; echo $myvar`
[17:53] <drmagoo> yardlinux: make sure that root-login is disabled in sshd_config
[17:53] <sloantothebone> A friend of mine is trying to open a .desktup but is getting a "select application" menu/error
[17:53] <buu> xar: What happens when you try it?
[17:53] <privateN2dez> try echo "$myvar"
[17:53] <xar> buu, nothing was displayed
[17:53] <privateN2dez> put quotes around the variable
[17:53] <xar> privateN2dez, I got an empty string as output
[17:54] <buu> xar: that's probably because the variable doesn't last past the ;
[17:54] <xar> I was running this script in fact: `myvar="abc"+$1; echo "$myvar"`
[17:54] <yardlinux> rypervenche, thanks
[17:54] <jpds> buu: Looks like noone's got round to updating it.
[17:54] <xar> privateN2dez,  I was running this script in fact: `myvar="abc"+$1; echo "$myvar"`
[17:54] <buu> ioria: saddays
[17:54] <yardlinux> drmagoo, i will do that
[17:54] <jpds> buu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cifs-utils/+bug/1219752
[17:55] <xMinty> yoyo
[17:55] <privateN2dez> xar, that works for me
[17:56] <xMinty> Can someone here help me install icecat? i followed the instructions on the ubuntu website but cant find the shell script file in the ice cat folder
[17:56] <sloantothebone> Help,  A friend of mine is trying to open a .desktup but is getting a "select application" menu/error
[17:56] <sloantothebone> .desktop*
[17:57] <sloantothebone> Why would this happen??
[17:57] <anderson1> only speak english here?
[17:57] <sloantothebone> Me?
[17:58] <sloantothebone> I am speaking english
[17:58] <privateN2dez> What is he opening the .desktop with?
[17:58] <xMinty> Non, je parle un peu frech :)
[17:58] <sloantothebone> I told her to click on it
[17:58] <yardlinux> drmagoo, PermitRootLogin without-password on one line and on the following line : StrictModes yes
[17:59] <buu> oK WHAT THE HELL
[17:59] <anderson1> I'm testing weechat :/, but only speak english on the irc's, i speak Spanish :'(
[17:59] <xMinty> uhhh, so no one knows hot to install icecat?
[17:59] <xMinty> how*
[17:59] <privateN2dez> open it in text editor and make sure everything is correct
[17:59] <bekks> yardlinux: thats a very insecure setting.
[17:59] <privateN2dez> also make sure the executable flag is set at least for the user
[17:59] <buu> jpds: What other programs are involved in mounting cifs shares?
[17:59] <jpds> buu: No idea, never used them.
[18:00] <privateN2dez> bekks: why is it insecure?
[18:00] <Eights> maybe someone has had the same issue. i started with a fresh ubuntu 15.04 install then installed xfce4 and xfce4-goodies, and so i log out and lightdm starts and has the default xfce4 background displaying. so i try to change this manually with dconf-editor and change the background image  save it exit and log back out.   still shows that same wallpaper.  how can revert back to  lightdm default  background or change it? i've tried dpkg-reconfigure lig
[18:00] <Eights> htdm still nothing. even went as far as to completely remove xfce any suggestions?
[18:00] <drmagoo> yardlinux: change that to no
[18:00] <drmagoo> yardlinux: change that to "no"
[18:00] <yardlinux> drmagoo, ok
[18:00] <bekks> privateN2dez: Permitting root access without password auth is like a big sign at your door: "thiefs, enter here please, door is open".
[18:00] <anderson1> anyone knows an irc in spanish?
[18:01] <drmagoo> anderson1 | !es
[18:01] <drmagoo> anderson1: try #ubuntu-es
[18:01] <anderson1> drmagoo Thanks bro!
[18:02] <drmagoo> np
[18:02] <anderson1> join #ubuntu-es
[18:02] <anderson1> :v
[18:02] <anderson1> quit
[18:02] <xMinty> ^^^ lmao
[18:03] <rypervenche> bekks: Using without-password on root is actually the secure way to do things. It requires having an SSH key to be able to log in as root.
[18:03] <privateN2dez> bekks: I encourage you to read the man page for sshd_config
[18:05] <drmagoo> not allowing root login in sshd_config is the most secure way. =)
[18:05] <bekks> rypervenche: Does it enforce a SSH key, or does it just disable password auth as the man page states?
[18:05] <bekks> drmagoo: full ack.
[18:05] <privateN2dez> It disables password auth. So it enforces key's partially
[18:06] <privateN2dez> There is another option for key enforcing
[18:06] <BBLLCC> htop lists all processes irl, what do I use to see a line of the actual use of my cpu along time?
[18:07] <privateN2dez> BBLLCC: the "load averages" (typically on the top right of htop screen)
[18:08] <rypervenche> bekks: It only allows keyed connections for the root user. I personally don't allow password connections on any of my users. Only keys.
[18:09] <Snaggle> Is there a way to check at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ for a partial path to find all packages that put files into qt5/plugins/platforms ?
[18:09] <bekks> rypervenche: Yeah, personally, I disallow root login at all, and using keys for all other users.
[18:09] <bekks> Snaggle: Sure, just put in that path?
[18:10] <drmagoo> I'm on bekks side on this ;)
[18:11] <Snaggle> bekks: I tried all three different options in the 'search the contents of packages' search section, and none of them give any results.  I know files exist there because I can manually pull up packges' filelists (such as libqt5gui5)
[18:12] <bekks> Snaggle: Whats the full path, before qt5/plugins/platforms ?
[18:13] <Snaggle> The full path for the amd64 flavor is e.g., /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libqminimal.so  For the i386 version it has i386-linux-gnu instead
[18:13] <bekks> Snaggle: So the path in question is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms ?
[18:13] <AaronTheGreat> Uhm privateN2dez, Just been reading the chat... and... Do the NSA actually record windows's screens?
[18:13] <Snaggle> bekks: yes
[18:15] <bekks> Snaggle: And you want to know the packages names of installed packages which put files in that directory?
[18:15] <Snaggle> bekks: yep
[18:16] <bekks> Snaggle: dpkg -S /usr/lib/*/qt5/plugins/platforms
[18:17] <Snaggle> bekks: That requires me being on Ubuntu.  Also, doesn't that require a package to be installed in order for dpkg to know about its contents?
[18:18] <AaronTheGreat> Bekks? your the kind of techy awsome guy... and I got something to ask you, does the NSA actually have something to do with Windows? or even ubuntu?
[18:19] <squinty> !topic
[18:19] <AaronTheGreat> !topic
[18:19] <AaronTheGreat> awhhhh, I though ubottu was a bot :P
[18:19] <AaronTheGreat> Oh wait
[18:19] <AaronTheGreat> xD
[18:20] <Snaggle> That's why I wish to use packages.ubuntu.com. It has access to the file lists of all of Ubuntu's packages, so it therefore should be capable of searching for partial paths, but apparently that functionality is not currently available.
[18:21] <bekks> Snaggle: Thats why I asked you wether you want to know the contents of installed packages.
[18:21] <EriC^^> !find something | Snaggle
[18:21] <bekks> Snaggle: You answer was "yes".
[18:21] <EriC^^> Snaggle: you can msg ubottu /msg ubottu !find <file>
[18:21] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: I am not going to answer questions which where asked wearing a tinfoil hat.
[18:22] <EriC^^> and i think the website can be used too check the link
[18:22] <bekks> *were
[18:23] <docmur> Is it possible to pass an arguement to apt-get that will only install exactly what I'm asking for and nothing else, I need to install zfs-initram, but I don't want anything e lse pulled it, I only need that packe for boot
[18:23] <Snaggle> bekks: sorry.  I missed the 'installed' in your question.  I just read it as 'packages which put files in that directory'.
[18:24] <bekks> docmur: It will install all unsatisfied dependencies.
[18:24] <docmur> I've install the dependacies myself by compiling ZFS from scratch, it doens't knwo that
[18:24] <bekks> docmur: Then you didnt install them by creating custom packages?
[18:24] <Snaggle> EriC^^: thank you for that pointer to ubottu finder.  It pulled what I wanted
[18:25] <bekks> docmur: That will put you into big trouble :)
[18:25] <beltorak> hi all; my lxcbr0 interface is missing and I cannot start any LXC containers. Kubuntu 14.04.x. Is there some sort of dpkg-reconfigure or /etc file I can edit to get it back?
[18:25] <AaronTheGreat> bekks is fluxbox a professional style program, used in businesses... etc? I mean... Is it secure enough for businesses to use it, Like as you said "X servers are ready to serve..." Is this a xserver?
[18:26] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: a) no, b) I dont know, since no one uses it in enterprise IT.
[18:26] <AaronTheGreat> What program do people use in enterprise IT? for what I am doing?
[18:27] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: People use desktop environments. :)
[18:28] <AaronTheGreat> Can a desktop environment be used in a server style enviroment?
[18:28] <bekks> Sure, why not.
[18:29] <AaronTheGreat> Allright, Il use that as my second option, so... Whats so bad about using a framebuffer for multiple monitors?
[18:30] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: The fact that it will not work maybe :)
[18:30] <AaronTheGreat> The chipset I am using and the APU I am using all work with framebuffer's
[18:31] <bekks> So if you refuse to accept all answers you get in reply of your questions and you seem to know it all better - why do you ask?
[18:32] <xar_> how to extract tgz files ?
[18:33] <Mr777> tar -xvf filename.tgz
[18:33] <bekks> Mr777: Will tar apply -z / -Z automagically?
[18:33] <xar_> Mr777, i've ran that and i'm waiting now from a while :/
[18:33] <sillyslux> wasn't that xzf?
[18:33] <xar_> xvz
[18:33] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:34] <Mr777> xzf xvf are just flags v verbose x extract(i think) f force
[18:34] <bekks> if tgz is a gzip'ed tarball, then xvzf, if it is a compressed tarball, then xvZf ...
[18:34] <EriC^^> xar_: -v should tell you what it's doing
[18:34] <Mr777> bekks: xvzf vs xvZf??
[18:35] <bekks> Mr777: Yeah, as I explained it.
[18:35] <tzun-hai> hi everyone
[18:35] <Mr777> Whats small z and capital Z difference?
[18:35] <bekks> Mr777: 0704 203406 < bekks> if tgz is a gzip'ed tarball, then xvzf, if it is a compressed tarball, then xvZf ...
[18:36] <utfans05_>      -z, --gzip, --gunzip --ungzip
[18:36] <utfans05_>      -Z, --compress, --uncompress
[18:36] <Mr777> Ythanks utganso5
[18:36] <utfans05_> yup
[18:36] <tzun-hai> does anyone here use Adobe Air? Seems i have install it, but when i try to install an .air app, it shows me error, about version and updating.
[18:36] <Mr777> And thanks bekks too
[18:37] <syntroPi> which formats are automagically extracted by tar? always used -xf and with gz xz bz2 it always seemed to work
[18:37] <AaronTheGreat> hm, can xmbc be installed on ubuntu serve?
[18:37] <tzun-hai> automagically, nice word :)
[18:37] <beltorak> AaronTheGreat: i just did that last night
[18:37] <tpe> tzun-hai: If I remember right, Adobe dropped Air for Linux years ago. Not worth using at all these days.
[18:38] <tzun-hai> tpe, yes, this is the point
[18:38] <tzun-hai> im not sure if i can do anything more to run this app
[18:38] <beltorak> tzun-hai: i used to run adobe air via wine; i haven't in quite a while though
[18:38] <tzun-hai> force version, or whatever
[18:38] <utfans05_> AaronTheGreat, I believe so.
[18:38] <bekks> AaronTheGreat: Sure, why not?
[18:38] <tzun-hai> oh, so i will try it on Wine
[18:39] <tzun-hai> thx
[18:39] <tpe> tzun-hai: In that case, I'm not sure. I stopped using it when they dropped it, and it was only for the TweetDeck desktop client back in the day.
[18:39] <beltorak> tzun-hai: i had to go through a lot of trouble to get it to update to the lastest version though, so it might not be worth the trouble
[18:39] <tzun-hai> i dont like to use, but this software is an .air app and i cant choose
[18:39] <tzun-hai> its a bit headache
[18:40] <tzun-hai> beltorak: i got problem even for normal install because the old libs
[18:41] <tzun-hai> i will try the Wine as tpe suggest
[18:41] <buu> ubuntu why are you the devil
[18:41] <BBLLCC> i just got rid of konqueror and a file manager i never use. Programs are gone, but icons are still in the menu. How do I get rid of those? how do I instruct xubuntu 15.04 to get rid of all icons with broken or non existent paths?
[18:41] <utfans05_> right click on them and you should be able to remove them from the menut.
[18:41] <utfans05_> menu*
[18:41] <beltorak> tzun-hai: yeah, i also did it via wine; just saying that to get my program to run I had to have a later version that the wine tools supported, and it was a real hassle to get it top update
[18:42] <tzun-hai> so, i don't need the native adobe air on my sistem. Bybye air :D
[18:42] <BBLLCC> utfans05, thats 1 on 1 and not automatic
[18:42] <buu> Does anyone know how I can convince ubuntu's kernel to read samba shares with colons in them?
[18:42] <Attox> I get a "tocblock error" message while booting for a second or so, after that the system boots normally, any idea what this is about?
[18:42] <rypervenche> Mr777: -Z uses the Lempel–Ziv–Welch compression algorithm. :)
[18:43] <ikonia> buu: that is nothing to do with the kernel
[18:43] <tzun-hai> is there any operator here?
[18:43] <utfans05_> BBLLCC, are they are the task bar or in the actual menu?
[18:43] <tzun-hai> i mean, room operatr
[18:43] <BBLLCC> actual menu
[18:43] <utfans05_> BBLLCC, how did you remove them?
[18:43] <BBLLCC> synaptic
[18:44] <utfans05_> ok, open a terminal and do this,   sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get autoremove
[18:44] <utfans05_> that may clearn them.
[18:44] <nuke1989> any way to set different wallpaper on each workspace? Also different icons on each workspace would be nice. Thanks
[18:44] <buu> ikonia: Then what is it to dow ith?
[18:45] <ikonia> the samba client/server
[18:45] <buu> ikonia: Ok, how do I convince the ubuntu samba client to read paths with colons?
[18:46] <buu> What package even implements the same client?
[18:46] <bekks> buu: Dont use colons :)
[18:46] <buu> *samba
[18:46] <ikonia> try escaping the colon
[18:46] <ikonia> may / may not work
[18:46] <buu> yes already tried
[18:46] <beltorak> buu: just curios, why do you have shares with colons in the name?
[18:46] <ikonia> not a valid UNC so why do it
[18:46] <buu> beltorak: Because that's what the filename is
[18:47] <ikonia> the file name is not the share name
[18:47] <beltorak> buu: ahh; i thought it was the actual share name. windows server, or samba server?
[18:47] <buu> Right, the share name doesn't have colons
[18:47] <buu> beltorak: debian server ubuntu client
[18:47] <ikonia> buu: you seem to be changing the question, what is the actual problem
[18:47] <tzun-hai> Humm.. a question. If OSx and Linux haves *nix kernels, why the software is not compatible?
[18:48] <tzun-hai> i see MAC is supported :(
[18:48] <buu> I have a debian server, with a folder, containing files with colons in their names, that I'm mounting via a ubuntu client
[18:48] <buu> The ubuntu client throws errors when it attempts to read the files/directories with colons in their name
[18:48] <ikonia> tzun-hai: because it is nothing to with the kernel, and the kernels are very different
[18:48] <utfans05_> tzun-hai, because OSx is a bastardised version.
[18:48] <BBLLCC> l the linux-headers-3.19.0-15-generic package,
[18:48] <ikonia> utfans05_: no it is not, that is not a problem
[18:48] <buu> This makes me real sad.
[18:49] <BBLLCC> whats the current kernel?
[18:49] <tzun-hai> Why the world that don't know Linux hate it?
[18:49] <ikonia> buu: how are you mounting it ?
[18:49] <BBLLCC> the one ipasted??
[18:49] <ikonia> tzun-hai: that is nothing for this channel
[18:49] <tzun-hai> of course
[18:49] <ikonia> tzun-hai: this channel does ubuntu support only
[18:49] <tzun-hai> yes
[18:49] <tzun-hai> how can i remove root password from Ubuntu?
[18:49] <AaronTheGreat> uhm  bekkz how did u find the list of screen things, Like fluxbox? I think of what to type on google
[18:49] <buu> ikonia: mount.cifs //server/share localpath
[18:50] <bekks> tzun-hai: By default, root has no password on Ubuntu.
[18:50] <ikonia> buu: could you please show me the EXACT command you use
[18:50] <tzun-hai> this is not actualy and answer to my question
[18:50] <ikonia> tzun-hai: it is
[18:50] <ikonia> tzun-hai: there is no root password, so you can't remove it
[18:50] <tzun-hai> i set root password by mistake, and now i cannot set back
[18:50] <ikonia> tzun-hai: ok so passwd -l
[18:50] <tzun-hai> y ask about remove, not if there is one by default
[18:51] <ikonia> against the root account
[18:51] <tzun-hai> nice
[18:51] <tzun-hai> thx
[18:51] <ikonia> you don't want to remove it, you want to disable the password
[18:51] <buu> ikonia: sudo mount.cifs //192.168.1.17/tank test/ -o user=buu
[18:51] <tzun-hai> i know the importance about non passwd and sudo
[18:51] <tzun-hai> dont blame me :)
[18:51] <ikonia> ?
[18:51] <tzun-hai> you want to disable the password
[18:51] <ikonia> buu: is "test" in your current working directory ?
[18:51] <tzun-hai> tyis is what you think i want
[18:51] <tzun-hai> you dont know what i want
[18:51] <tzun-hai> thats all
[18:52] <tzun-hai> thank you
[18:52] <ikonia> tzun-hai: I know exactly what you want - you want to disable the password to reset it back to how it was before you set a password
[18:52] <buu> ikonia: No, it's a subdir
[18:52] <ikonia> hence you want to disable the password by locking the account
[18:52] <tzun-hai> so far away i got banned from here, asking the same thing
[18:52] <xar_> does this script installs Android Studio bundle on ubuntu, please ? https://github.com/haythemkh/installation-scripts-for-IDEs/blob/master/android-studio-installer.sh
[18:52] <tzun-hai> what happend?
[18:53] <ikonia> buu: ok, lets go back to basics, do "cd /" then re-do the command with sudo and use the full paths the mount points
[18:53] <ikonia> tzun-hai: don't understand what your asking
[18:53] <ikonia> xar_: ask the guy who wrote i
[18:53] <ikonia> it
[18:53] <buu> ikonia: Ok and?
[18:53] <tzun-hai> i ask that question, long time ago, and i got banned for ask about root passwd
[18:53] <ikonia> tzun-hai: dount ful
[18:53] <ikonia> doubtful
[18:53] <tzun-hai> because "WE DO NOT SUPPORT ROOT PASSWD"
[18:54] <ikonia> tzun-hai: we do not support setting a root passowrd
[18:54] <ikonia> buu: did it work ?
[18:54] <tzun-hai> you currenty did that
[18:54] <xar_> ikonia, it doesn't work for me, couldn't find the issue in it
[18:54] <ikonia> tzun-hai: no, I just disabled the password
[18:54] <tzun-hai> im not sure if worked, i havce not that machine here
[18:54] <eoin> anyone want to test my screen recording program?
[18:54] <tzun-hai> it's a little toy i buy and play it
[18:54] <tzun-hai> no here
[18:54] <buu> ikonia: The share mounted. I get the same error accessing the files.
[18:54] <buu> ikonia: In otherwords, no change.
[18:55] <ikonia> buu: please pastebin the output of the command "mount"
[18:55] <eoin> great for recording video games
[18:55] <buu> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11822451/
[18:55] <syntroPi> are there any tablets (like MS Surface or G N9) on which Ubuntu Gnome is known to run?
[18:56] <tzun-hai> ikonia: a question about this channel. Im using Zorin OS9, based on Ubuntu. Can i ask things here?
[18:56] <ikonia> buu: please pastebin the output of the command "mount"
[18:56] <ikonia> tzun-hai: no
[18:56] <tzun-hai> :O
[18:56] <buu> ikonia: That is the command mount
[18:56] <ikonia> buu: it does nt display that one line
[18:56] <ikonia> not
[18:56] <ikonia> it displays more than 1 line
[18:56] <buu> ikonia: Yes but the other lines have sensitive data in them
[18:57] <ikonia> that seems doubtful, it's just file system names
[18:57] <buu> And passwords in this case
[18:57] <ikonia> passwords are not in clear text
[18:58] <buu> I beg to differ
[18:58] <buu> In anycase, what are you looking for?
[18:58] <ikonia> nothing now
[19:00] <Minty> ayye
[19:02] <vfw> buu: What was that?
[19:03] <vfw> buu: mount | pastebinit
[19:05] <KlausedSource> hey, do you know a good gui music player? preferably extendable by plugins and custom skins
[19:05] <DJones> KlausedSource: Don't know about plugins etc, but I like Clementine
[19:06] <Mr777> KlausedSource: What about VLC?
[19:06] <TJ-> buu: I suspect you need to use the 'charmap' option to translate the ":" since it is an invalid character in SMB/CIFS
[19:06] <buu> vfw: If it makes you happy http://paste.ubuntu.com/11822507/
[19:06] <ikonia> dos charset = ISO8859-1
[19:06] <buu> TJ-: I tried that as a mount option but it didn't seem to change anything =[
[19:06] <ikonia> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/177506
[19:06] <ikonia> samba will confirm to that
[19:07] <nimble> has anyone gotten gitolite to work with ECDSA ssh keys?
[19:07] <buu> ikonia: Except it doesn't because they added unix extensions
[19:07] <buu> Which allow for previously invalid characters
[19:08] <ikonia> not it you don't tell it to
[19:08] <ikonia> have a look at http://serverfault.com/questions/124611/special-characters-in-samba-filenames
[19:10] <buu> They *should* be on by default, in any case, there's not a 'unix' flag, there's only a 'nounix'
[19:10] <ikonia> I don't think they should be on by default
[19:10] <ikonia> more so when you consider samba is a reverse engineer of a product
[19:11] <buu> ikonia: There's a 'nounix' option but not a 'unix' mount option
[19:11] <bigbossie> Hey :D
[19:11] <Minty> LinuxMInt is basically ubuntu right?
[19:11] <ikonia> the unix option is a samba config
[19:11] <ikonia> Minty: no
[19:11] <buu> It's enabled on the server
[19:11] <DJones> !mint | Minty
[19:12] <Minty> Okay thanks ubottu
[19:12] <ikonia> buu: if you look at your mount command it's using "unix"
[19:12] <ikonia> so it is a valid option
[19:12] <ikonia> (in the pastebin you sent)
[19:13] <buu> ikonia: That's a negotiated setting, if you try passing it on the command line it will error
[19:13] <buu> unix extensions = yes
[19:13] <ikonia> buu: sorry what ? what is the option you are trying to pass exactly
[19:13] <AaronTheGreat> I got a question, how can I draw a image to the screen in either c# (mono) or java on ubuntu server?
[19:14] <ikonia> AaronTheGreat: you'd need to ask the programming channels for those langauge how to do that
[19:14] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:14] <Minty> AaronTheGreat: you need to get a sharpie
[19:14] <ikonia> Minty: be helpful - or don't respond please
[19:15] <ikonia> buu: look at the "mapchars" option
[19:15] <AaronTheGreat> well... I mean Is there anyway... Some people have suggested X11
[19:15] <buu> I have
[19:15] <ikonia> by default nomapchars is used, which I think mapchars will fix your problem
[19:15] <Minty> Is there like a site where you can find freenode channels for certain topics?
[19:15] <ikonia> AaronTheGreat: there is a way,
[19:15] <ikonia> Minty: freenode.net
[19:15] <buu> ikonia: I tried that as a *mount* option
[19:15] <buu> If that's what you're suggesting
[19:16] <ikonia> buu: certainly sugesting it - the docs say that will fix the special chars of colon
[19:16] <Minty> ikonia: right but i mean like a tool where I can input what kindof channel im looking for and itll come up with suggestions for channels
[19:17] <ikonia> Minty: as in #freenode
[19:17] <ikonia> and look at the alis bot
[19:17] <vubuntu> Hi People,If ubuntu fails to boot, what options do I have for recovery
[19:17] <buu> ikonia: Same thing as without it ls: reading directory .: Not a directory
[19:17] <ikonia> vubuntu: depends why it failed to boot
[19:18] <nimble> Minty: https://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist
[19:18] <ikonia> buu: open it in the gui where it will do getfilename()
[19:18] <ikonia> buu: see if it behave different
[19:19] <vubuntu> ikonia: this is the third fresh install ive done. The moment I do an update and it asks for a reboot it does not boot up. If I select the recovery option it just hangs, nothing happens. What should I be looking for?
[19:20] <ikonia> vubuntu: what happens if you don't ask for recovery mode
[19:21] <vubuntu> ikonia: thats the issue. I see three of four lines of text, and it just cycles at that stage. Is there something that can be done like for instance get into recovery mode any other way
[19:21] <ikonia> vubuntu: what do you mean it cycles ?
[19:21] <nimble> vubuntu, is this after successfully installing, rebooting, updating, and then rebooting again?
[19:22] <nimble> or is this first boot after installing
[19:22] <ikonia> vubuntu: forget recovery mode for the moment, explain what happens clearly when you try to boot normally
[19:22] <TJ-> buu: What kernel versions are in use on the server and client?
[19:22] <Minty> ikonia: thanks for being helpful
[19:24] <vubuntu> ikonia: I wish i could tell you as I havent payed attention to the error messages. But I noticed when it does update the kernal it fails at restart. I cant remember the error message.
[19:24] <ikonia> vubuntu: get the error message
[19:25] <vubuntu> ikonia: thanks for your prompt response. I will and thanks a pun once again
[19:27] <vubuntu> ikonia: How long are you a linux/ubuntu user for?
[19:28] <ikonia> what does that matter ?
[19:28] <vubuntu> ikonia: im curious, i see you have a plethora of knowledge
[19:29] <ikonia> can't remember
[19:38] <ubuntu589> hello friends
[19:38] <ubuntu589> i need some help with my umbutu
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> !ask | ubuntu589
[19:39] <ubuntu589> ubottu thanks
[19:39] <ubuntu589> could someoe tell me the comand to see files on the c drive
[19:39] <ikonia> there is no c drive on ubuntu
[19:39] <ubuntu589> my N key is broken
[19:40] <ikonia> you'll need to give us a little more info
[19:40] <ikonia> (of what you exactly want)
[19:40] <ubuntu589> well the file archive my computer is too full too boot
[19:41] <ubuntu589> this has happen a few times i type sudo somethig something to view the files on the drive then sudo delete and i can usally boot when its full
[19:41] <ikonia> ubuntu589: you're not making any sense
[19:41] <ikonia> ubuntu589: are you trying to boot ubuntu yes/no
[19:42] <ubuntu589> ikonia i understand im not so good at computers
[19:42] <ikonia> ubuntu589: are you trying to boot ubuntu yes/no
[19:42] <ubuntu589> no it cant boot the drive is full 100%
[19:42] <ikonia> ubuntu589: are you TRYING to boot ubuntu
[19:42] <ubuntu589> im trying to delete files on the comand line
[19:42] <ubuntu589> with the sudo command
[19:42] <ikonia> ubuntu589: are you TRYING to boot ubuntu yes/no
[19:42] <ubuntu589> yes
[19:42] <ubuntu589> it cannot boot in safe mode the computer is full
[19:43] <ikonia> ubuntu589: what happens when you try to boot ubuntu
[19:43] <ikonia> forget safe mode
[19:43] <ikonia> what happens when you try to boot ubuntu
[19:43] <ubuntu589> im trying to list files on the drive and delete a sigle file
[19:43] <ikonia> ubuntu589: I'm asking you questions to help you - answer the questions I ask you
[19:43] <ikonia> not other things
[19:44] <ubuntu589> it freezes
[19:44] <ubuntu589> well it just keeps trying to load
[19:44] <ikonia> ubuntu589: at what point
[19:44] <ikonia> hang on "trying to load" and "freezes" are two different things
[19:44] <ikonia> what ACTUALLY happens
[19:44] <ubuntu589> im booting now
[19:45] <ubuntu589> the system is running on low graphics mode
[19:45] <ubuntu589> pops up first
[19:45] <ikonia> ok - so thats fine
[19:46] <ikonia> that means it's boot ok
[19:46] <ikonia> that is nothing to do with your hard disk
[19:46] <ikonia> so what's the problem you want to fix
[19:46] <ubuntu589> i want to delete a file on the drive without loggin in
[19:46] <ikonia> ubuntu589: why ?
[19:46] <ikonia> ubuntu589: your machine is booting fine
[19:46] <ubuntu589> because the computer doesnt have enough memory too boot
[19:46] <ikonia> you said it wouldn't boot - now you've shown it IS booting fine
[19:46] <ikonia> ubuntu589: it does - it's booted
[19:46] <ikonia> you've just shown it boots
[19:47] <ubuntu589> yes booted but i cant get the the desktop nothing
[19:47] <ikonia> you can
[19:47] <ikonia> you just said its running in low graphics mode
[19:47] <ubuntu589> what is the command line commad at boot
[19:47] <ikonia> there is no command line at boot
[19:47] <ikonia> ubuntu589: answer the questions I ask
[19:48] <ubuntu589> it ca run low graphics mode
[19:48] <ikonia> ubuntu589: what is the actual problem you want to solve
[19:48] <ikonia> not what what you think the fix is - what is actually broken
[19:48] <ubuntu589> its trys to boot in low graphics mode but cant
[19:48] <ubuntu589> i need to delete a file
[19:48] <ikonia> why ?
[19:49] <ikonia> why do you need to delete a file ?
[19:49] <ubuntu589> the second i delete a file my computer will boot fine
[19:49] <ikonia> which file is it ?
[19:49] <ikonia> what are you trying to boot
[19:49] <ikonia> sorry - what are you trying to delete
[19:50] <ubuntu589> im trying to use the commad tolist files on the drive then pick one from the list ad sudo delete it
[19:50] <ikonia> ubuntu589: why ?
[19:50] <ubuntu589> because im locked out of my computer
[19:50] <bekks> ubuntu589: What are you actually trying?
[19:50] <ikonia> ubuntu589: tell me the PROBLEM, now what you think the solution is
[19:50] <ikonia> "not" what you think the solution is
[19:50] <bekks> Deleting files will not solve that issue.
[19:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Seems like a case of XY to me
[19:50] <OerHeks>  low graphics does not say low diskspace
[19:50] <SonikkuAmerica> !XY
[19:51] <ubuntu589> ok what do i push when booing the computer do open the back box typing doss thing
[19:51] <ubuntu589> booting*
[19:51] <ikonia> ubuntu589: no
[19:51] <ikonia> ubuntu589: lets do this properly
[19:51] <ikonia> ubuntu589: I will ask question you will answer the question I ask
[19:51] <ubuntu589> this is propper
[19:51] <ikonia> understand ?
[19:51] <ubuntu589> fine
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> are you using backbox ??
[19:52] <ikonia> ubuntu589: you are trying to boot ubuntu on your PC yes/no ?
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> he is
[19:52] <ikonia> Johnny_Linux: ?
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> dun dun dun
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> yeah
[19:52] <ikonia> Johnny_Linux: why do you say that ?
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> its like kali
[19:52] <ikonia> I know what it is
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> o ok
[19:52] <Johnny_Linux> didnt know you were aware
[19:52] <OerHeks> he is describing terminal, Johnny_Linux
[19:53] <ikonia> Johnny_Linux: why do you think he's using backbox ?
[19:53] <ubuntu589> i have a seperate laptop i use for dowloading if it gets 100% full ad shit down it cant booti have toi go in the black box thing and delete a file and it can usally boot
[19:53] <Johnny_Linux> he said it
[19:53] <ikonia> ubuntu589: please don't swear
[19:53] <ikonia> Johnny_Linux: where ?
[19:53] <ubuntu589> i didnt swear i never do
[19:53] <Johnny_Linux> booing the computer do open the back box
[19:53] <ikonia> ubuntu589: "please don't use words like shit"
[19:54] <ikonia> Johnny_Linux: "black box" it was a typo
[19:54] <ikonia> ubuntu589: I ask you a question you answer that question
[19:54] <Johnny_Linux> ic my mistake then
[19:54] <ikonia> ubuntu589: are you trying to boot ubuntu yes/no
[19:54] <ubuntu589> no
[19:54] <ikonia> ubuntu589: what are you trying to boot ?
[19:54] <ubuntu589> im trying to open the black box
[19:54] <ubuntu589> the sudo thing
[19:54] <ikonia> ubuntu589: what black box ?
[19:54] <ikonia> ubuntu589: that is a shell in ubuntu
[19:54] <ikonia> ubuntu589: why are you not trying to boot ubuntu
[19:54] <ubuntu589> yes the shell
[19:55] <ubuntu589> F9?
[19:55] <ikonia> ubuntu589: answer the questions or this will stop
[19:56] <ikonia> ubuntu589: "why are you not booting into ubuntu"
[19:56] <ubuntu589> because i want to delete files in the shell
[19:56] <ikonia> ubuntu589: why
[19:56] <ubuntu589> because i need to
[19:56] <ikonia> ubuntu589: why do you want to delete files in a shell
[19:56] <ubuntu589> i hate files
[19:56] <ikonia> ubuntu589: why do you need to
[19:58] <ubuntu589> this chat usally works like in two seconds with my request google is also jonesing me right now as well
[19:58] <ikonia> ubuntu589: last warning - answer the questions
[19:58] <ikonia> ubuntu589: why do you need to delete files
[19:59] <ubuntu589> because i wat to delete them
[19:59] <ubuntu589> just 1 video
[19:59] <ubuntu589> or song
[19:59] <ikonia> you're wasting our time by hiding information
[19:59] <ubuntu589> or anything
[19:59] <OerHeks> If you keep running out of diskspace, deleting a file is not really a solution.
[19:59] <ikonia> so I'm going to ask you to stop until you can give all the information
[19:59] <ikonia> this obsession to booting into a shell "because you want to" is hiding the truth
[20:00] <ikonia> when you want to tell us the truth - we can help you
[20:00] <ubuntu589> i want to boot in shell use sudo command to list files on drive then sudo delete a file
[20:00] <ikonia> why ?
[20:00] <ikonia> why do you need to do this ?
[20:00] <ubuntu589> because i cant boot
[20:00] <ubuntu589> the disk is full
[20:00] <ikonia> what happens when you try to boot
[20:00] <ubuntu589> this happe4times
[20:00] <ikonia> what happens when you try to boot
[20:00] <ubuntu589> i dont want to boot it does not boot
[20:00] <ikonia> you don't want to boot ?
[20:01] <ubuntu589> because i wat to delete from shell
[20:01] <ikonia> what happens when you try to boot ubuntu
[20:02] <ubuntu881> did i get kicked?
[20:02] <ikonia> ubuntu881: yes
[20:02] <ubuntu881> why
[20:02] <ikonia> ubuntu881: answer the questions you are asked and tell the truth
[20:03] <ubuntu881> why cant i ask you how to open shell?
[20:03] <tripod> he probably has some pear-shaped scipt core-dumping 100gigs into his root lol
[20:03] <ikonia> ubuntu881: because you are hiding information so it's not posible to help
[20:04] <ikonia> ubuntu881: so to help you - we need the information
[20:04] <ubuntu881> tripod i just contrant dowload gigs and gigs sometimes it get full and shut down and then i cant boot
[20:04] <ubuntu881> constant
[20:04] <ikonia> ubuntu881: what happens when you try to boot ubuntu
[20:04] <tripod> "sometimes"
[20:04] <ubuntu881> it black screens forever
[20:04] <tripod> so this happens more than once??
[20:04] <tripod> ...
[20:04] <ikonia> ubuntu881: it blackscreens ?
[20:04] <tripod> dude
[20:04] <ubuntu881> this is like the 3rd time
[20:04] <bobby52> hi
[20:05] <tripod> just boot from cd and mount the root and delete the file
[20:05] <ubuntu881> probally like 3 times a year i forget to transfer and shutdown
[20:05] <tripod> easy
[20:05] <ikonia> ubuntu881: why do you think this is a disk space problem ?
[20:05] <ubuntu881> because it is
[20:05] <ikonia> how do you know ?
[20:05] <ubuntu881> i had this problem before
[20:05] <ikonia> why do you think this ?
[20:05] <ubuntu881> many times
[20:05] <ubuntu881> i delete a file it frees up enough to boot and it boots
[20:06] <ikonia> I don't believe that is the case, certainly not without more info
[20:06] <tripod> dude seriously in the time ive been on this channel you could have put in a cd and rebooted off that - mounted the root to soem mnt dir and deleted the file
[20:06] <ikonia> the only think you should get is a warning about your home directory or logging if the disk is full
[20:06] <ubuntu881> tripod im smoking a blunt with my friend i like how you thik
[20:07] <tripod> eh
[20:07] <ikonia> this is getting silly
[20:07] <tripod> yup
[20:07] <ikonia> ubuntu881: stick to the problem and answering the questions, or please leave the channel
[20:07] <ubuntu881> why cant u just tell me how to boot in shell ad sudo delete a file
[20:07] <tripod> i just did
[20:08] <ikonia> ubuntu881: because you told us thats not working, so we are trying to understnad why
[20:08] <ubuntu881> which button is it at boot?
[20:08] <ikonia> there isn't a button at boot
[20:08] <darxun> ohh lord...
[20:08] <tripod> god
[20:08] <ubuntu881> well when u power on its a F key
[20:09] <ikonia> ubuntu881: you are currently doing drugs and wasting our time
[20:09] <ikonia> I suggest you come back when you are in full control of yourself
[20:09] <tripod> well it was fun all i really wanted to do was find a channel where I could test my home-rolled xchat2.8.8 lolz
[20:09] <tripod> cya
[20:10] <ubuntu881> thanks guys istead of just helping you just bully
[20:10] <ikonia> no-one is bullying you, however you don't appear to be able to interact/respond to questions so we can't help
[20:10] <ikonia> you've stated you're doing drugs which may explain this
[20:10] <ikonia> come back when you're able to interact and share the info
[20:11] <ubuntu881> can just pay bitcoin for these commads
[20:11] <ikonia> no
[20:14] <mintx> keke
[20:15] <rtreleaven> ubuntu881's problems are not the fault of drugs
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> xxMintyx:  how can we help you?
[20:17] <dacorr_> anyone else having issues with nvidia drivers? All was ok then recent update then none of the drivers detect the screen
[20:17] <xxMintyx> You can't help me :D I'm just here to chat
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> dacorr_: grafix card chipset and ubuntu version please?
[20:17] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | xxMintyx
[20:17] <dacorr_> Nvidia gforce 635M, Ubuntu 15.04
[20:18] <xxMintyx> lotuspsychje: So does that mean I'm not allowed to talk in here? :D
[20:18] <lotuspsychje> dacorr_: did you install nvidia-prime?
[20:18] <ikonia> xxMintyx: it's a channel for ubuntu support discussion, if you want to chat about that, sure thing
[20:19] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | dacorr_ for optimus card
[20:20] <dacorr_> lotuspsychje: I did. if i install any nvidia driver it wont boot to login screen I have to drop to terminal
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> dacorr_: where did you install the drivers from?
[20:20] <dacorr_> lotuspsychje: eddgers
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | dacorr_
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> dacorr_: i would suggest nvidia-prime with the official drivers that show up your additional drivers list
[20:21] <Bashing-om> dacorr_: A thought, did you purge the old busted driver before (RE-)installing the driver ?
[20:21] <dacorr_> lotuspsychje: i tried the ubuntu repos first
[20:22] <dacorr_> bashing-om: i did purge, also reinstalled xorg, gdm too
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> dacorr_: you sure you installed nvidia-prime and enabled performance mode in nvidia-settings?
[20:22] <OerHeks> Nvidia gforce 635M is supported from nvidia-295 and up, no need for xorg edgers
[20:23] <dacorr_> lotuspsychje: I did although it would not let me enable performance mode
[20:23] <cyberalex4life> I usually use bumblebee, because somehow I get same performance as with prime and much less tearing (and I don't have to log in and log out to switch)
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> dacorr_: probably you wasnt using the correct driver
[20:24] <dacorr_> I have had nothing but trouble with Nvidia since upgrading to 15.04
[20:24] <Bashing-om> dacorr_: I checked with Nvidia site, and they recommned the 352 driver for that card. I am not sure that the repo in 15.04 has that latest driver ?
[20:24] <cyberalex4life> but edgers didn't work for me on 14.04 either
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> yes but no
[20:26] <dacorr_> bashing-om: I will give that one a go before one last purge
[20:26] <cyberalex4life> dacorr_, my next laptop will be full AMD; sick of  intel and nvidia
[20:27] <yardlinux> OK, so I set up port forwarding on my linux machine to an internal IP address but when I ssh to my external IP all I get is connection timed out. Any ideas?
[20:29] <Bashing-om> dacorr_: Mot so straught forward. IF you choose to try the repo ( ist choice) then after pruging drivers, disable the PPA . update/upgrade the system then see what the repo offers for a graphics driver .
[20:31] <xxMintyx> Do I need a nvidia gpu to use nvidias linux drivers
[20:31] <ikonia> yes
[20:31] <cyberalex4life> xxMintyx, of course
[20:31] <xxMintyx> shit I have an intel apu and I get mad screen tearing
[20:32] <xxMintyx> even with intel drivers
[20:32] <ikonia> tone down the language please xxMintyx
[20:32] <cyberalex4life> xxMintyx, guess that's what intel can do on linux
[20:32] <xxMintyx> Gammit
[20:33] <cyberalex4life> xxMintyx, have you tried Ubuntu Gnome, usually tends to be better (from my experience)
[20:33] <xxMintyx> Nope, I only like XFCE and KDE
[20:34] <cyberalex4life> xxMintyx, on xfce you could try install the KDE desktop manager kdm I think
[20:35] <cyberalex4life> xxMintyx, for some reason that I don't know, linux Mint was more tearing free than Ubuntu similar versions
[20:35] <xxMintyx> My laptop has screen tearing on every distro i try :/
[20:36] <cyberalex4life> xxMintyx, what CPU do you have?
[20:36] <andybrine> Im wondering if anyone can help
[20:37] <hubrmph> andybrine: Share the issue with the channel for help.
[20:37] <andybrine> everytime I try to resize a window it resets my screen
[20:37] <xxMintyx> cyberalex4life: Its a pentium laptop apu idk which one
[20:39] <tzun-hai> a question about sudo
[20:39] <andybrine> its strange
[20:39] <xxMintyx> What about sudo?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> xxMintyx  type  sudo dmidecode -t 4 | pastebinit ... paste the url here
[20:39] <ikonia> tzun-hai: this is for ubuntu support
[20:39] <tzun-hai> when i do sudo, is not my user the same? i will use root folder... witch is not what i really want
[20:39] <ikonia> tzun-hai: you've already told us you are not using ubuntu
[20:39] <tzun-hai> im on the ubuntu now
[20:39] <ikonia> tzun-hai: please do not ask
[20:39] <tzun-hai> i have a couple machines
[20:39] <tzun-hai> not just one
[20:39] <cyberalex4life> xxMintyx, I kind of noticed that, when the cpu/gpu gets more closer to overwhelmed (both intel and nvidia) video tearing occurs, at least in my case, but xfce allways has tearing for me
[20:39] <tzun-hai> i got really 3 ubuntus
[20:39] <tzun-hai> including servers
[20:40] <ikonia> tzun-hai: doesn't look like it according to your version output
[20:40] <tzun-hai> this one?
[20:40] <ikonia> yes
[20:40] <tzun-hai> do i need to start my irc with that version? really?
[20:40] <tzun-hai> im on home, please ¬¬
[20:40] <andybrine> I try and move windows and it does the same thing
[20:40] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, does this happen immediately after install/reinstall?
[20:40] <tzun-hai> you can read the world with your commds ikonia, with respect
[20:41] <ikonia> what ?
[20:41] <andybrine> I have had it installed for a while
[20:41] <xxMintyx> MonkeyDust: http://paste.linux.chat/view/51426662
[20:41] <tzun-hai> you CANT read the world with your irc commands
[20:41] <ikonia> tzun-hai: what are you talking about
[20:41] <tzun-hai> about im not using ubuntu on that chat
[20:41] <ikonia> tzun-hai: I know you're not
[20:41] <ikonia> xxMintyx: you're still using mint too
[20:41] <tzun-hai> I KNOW MAN, but why do i have to log on my ubuntu to ask?
[20:41] <xxMintyx> so :/
[20:42] <andybrine> cyberalex4life I dont know what is causing this
[20:42] <ikonia> xxMintyx: so as you where told earlier, we don't support mint here
[20:42] <ikonia> xxMintyx: you where told where to go for mint support earlier
[20:42] <andybrine> I think it is something to do with the graphics drivers
[20:42] <xxMintyx> Prove that I'm not running ubuntu
[20:42] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, number 19 on http://www.noobslab.com/2015/04/tweaksthings-to-do-after-install-of.html
[20:43] <rubiksmomo> My Unison always tends to freeze when analyzing my videos. How could I fix it? Or is there some other software for 2-way syncing data?
[20:43] <andybrine> cyberalex4life ok thanks. I will give that a show
[20:43] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, it may be, but you should try resetting unity
[20:43] <andybrine> shot*
[20:44] <tzun-hai> AGAIN not being using Ubuntu JUST NOW is not a reason to not ask me
[20:44] <andybrine> im using gnome shell
[20:44] <tzun-hai> last conversation was about another thing
[20:44] <ikonia> tzun-hai: I didn't say it wasn't,
[20:44] <tzun-hai> so dont tell me if i can ask or not
[20:44] <tzun-hai> support what you want
[20:44] <ikonia> tzun-hai: you stated earlier that you are not using ubuntu, and you're not currently using ubuntu, it's not unreasonable to ask
[20:44] <tzun-hai> IN HOME!!
[20:44] <tzun-hai> but i use many distros
[20:44] <ikonia> in home ?
[20:44] <tzun-hai> i have dude on all of the
[20:44] <tzun-hai> now im asking the ubuntu one
[20:45] <ikonia> you have dude on ?
[20:45] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, oh; sudo apt-get install --reinstall gnome-shell gdm
[20:45] <tzun-hai> i ASK you about zorin, and you correctly point me to dont ask, now i ask about ubuntu
[20:45] <tzun-hai> i dont know what's wrong with you
[20:45] <ikonia> tzun-hai: nothing
[20:45] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, are you on intel?
[20:45] <ikonia> tzun-hai: show me the ouptut of "id" from your ubuntu machine
[20:45] <andybrine> yea im on intel
[20:45] <tzun-hai> i never had to read that thing
[20:45] <tzun-hai> how to do
[20:45] <tzun-hai> i will show you
[20:46] <ikonia> super
[20:46] <ikonia> thank you
[20:46] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:46] <andybrine> I also have shel 3.16
[20:46] <tzun-hai> ¬¬ please ask anyone about it's id
[20:46] <tzun-hai> idi't
[20:46] <ikonia> ?
[20:46] <tzun-hai> unfair
[20:46] <ikonia> no it's not
[20:46] <tzun-hai> how do i read my id?
[20:46] <tzun-hai> tell me or dontkl request it
[20:47] <ikonia> type "id" into a terminal
[20:47] <andybrine> cyberalex4life thanks. I have done that and now going to do a reboot
[20:47] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, I kind of stopped at Gnome Shell 3.14 after having issues with kernel and drivers... Don't know further
[20:47] <andybrine> brb
[20:47] <tzun-hai> outputs a lof of ids, including the root, mine and groups
[20:47] <tzun-hai> wich one you insterested in
[20:47] <andybrine> cyberalex4life thats ok. I think what I have done there should help
[20:48] <ikonia> tzun-hai: type "id" and pastebin the full output please
[20:48] <tzun-hai> ok
[20:48] <ikonia> thanks
[20:48] <andybrine> I love the way Gnome Shell 3.16 works
[20:48] <andybrine> and it did seem to be flawless
[20:49] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, yeah well, playing with new stuff has it's costs
[20:49] <andybrine> thats true
[20:50] <andybrine> anyway, I will brb and see if that has helped :)
[20:53] <andybrine> sadly its still doing it
[20:53] <andybrine> cyberalex4life is there some sort of debugging i can do?
[20:54] <tzun-hai> ikonia: this is the ouput http://paste.ubuntu.com/11823104/
[20:54] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, you are on 15.04 and installed gnome 3.16?
[20:54] <ikonia> tzun-hai: thank you
[20:54] <andybrine> cyberalex4life yea
[20:55] <andybrine> I haveI think i may have screwed up my graphics by adding certain icons
[20:56] <andybrine> so im thinking I could purge some repos
[20:56] <tzun-hai> can i ask now again about sudo?
[20:56] <ikonia> go for it
[20:57] <tzun-hai> i test whoami from sudo, and i got root. Some app's tell me that i need root, therefore the things goes to /root instead my user. How can i tell sudo to use my user paths and things? im not sure if i do a wrong question.
[20:58] <cyberalex4life> andybrine, not a wise choise, from my experience; there are a lot of things to put together in an OS. You can try on Gnome Shell official webpage. Things have changed quite much in Gnome Shell lately. For me it's too much work to do at my present level of knowledge. I recommend to wait for Ubuntu Gnome 15.10 if it gets 3.16
[20:59] <andybrine> cyberalex4life yeah ok. Thanks for you help
[20:59] <andybrine> I may remove icon repos that I know I have added and wont cause any problems if I remover
[21:00] <ikonia> tzun-hai: can you give an example of something you're trying to do ?
[21:00] <tzun-hai> yes, virtualbox
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  you mean ppa's ?
[21:00] <ikonia> tzun-hai: what command ?
[21:01] <andybrine> lol yes MonkeyDust
[21:01] <tzun-hai> i used the GUI
[21:01] <ikonia> tzun-hai: how did you launch the gui ?
[21:01] <tzun-hai> with virtualbox command
[21:01] <ikonia> tzun-hai: with sudo or not ?
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  try purging ppa's
[21:01] <tzun-hai> i try both
[21:01] <tzun-hai> some features are not avail if not root
[21:02] <ikonia> tzun-hai: so if you launch the gui without sudo it should work and policy kit should elevate your privileges where required
[21:02] <tzun-hai> so im forced to use sudo, and the things goes to /root folder instead the normal way
[21:02] <andybrine> I do use ppas MonkeyDust
[21:02] <ikonia> you shouldn't need sudo for that
[21:02] <tzun-hai> policy kit, ok
[21:02] <andybrine> just using the wrong lingo
[21:02] <tzun-hai> i dont know what i should't use, im a neewbie here
[21:03] <Ben64> tzun-hai: you should almost never need to use sudo
[21:03] <tzun-hai> i think the policy kit you mention didn't work as i guess you explain
[21:03] <Ben64> tzun-hai: what exactly are you wanting to do that requires root
[21:03] <tzun-hai> really?
[21:03] <andybrine> I remember what casued it now. I installed a very new shell theme and its caused problems ever since
[21:04] <andybrine> it has only been minor like this but im almost 100% its that
[21:04] <tzun-hai> i dont remember just now, because i leave it, but, i can try it again. i do so much things and dont remember all. i must check that
[21:04] <tzun-hai> i will look it now
[21:05] <andybrine> has anyone here heard of the evopop shell theme?
[21:05] <colbyfttp> hey folks, can you set up ppas to do this
[21:06] <colbyfttp> willy not availale choose vivid
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> colbyfttp  it's wily, not willy ... wily will be released in october
[21:07] <colbyfttp> not what I asked :)
[21:07] <TJ-> what's a small l between friends?
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  true that
[21:07] <colbyfttp> i spelt available wrong too
[21:08] <tzun-hai> ikonia: i forgot what was the virtuabox thing, but i can tell you another example, current one
[21:08] <tzun-hai> etherape, fiddler2
[21:08] <tzun-hai> both of them need root to inspect network devices
[21:08] <TJ-> colbyfttp: I'm not sure you asked anything yet... I didn't see any question marks :)
[21:08] <tzun-hai> how can i run them and use my /home for config files?
[21:09] <colbyfttp> PPA version = wily I want to know if wily version not found use vivid. Is this possible?
[21:10] <TJ-> colbyfttp: You mean is it possible to use packages from Vivid on Wily if none are available for Wily? The answer is 'it depends on each package and its dependencies'
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> colbyfttp  so you want a vivid ppa, for something that's not there for wily? what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[21:12] <locksmith2> Hello
[21:12] <locksmith2> I like how weechat can hide all the parts/joins
[21:12] <aswarirna7> hai
[21:13] <colbyfttp> suppose back story would help. I am copying and pasting a few ppa's. Ubuntu auto puts wily, so instead of having to manually change the PPAs I want it to frop versions auto until found or just check for wily 1st then vivid
[21:13] <colbyfttp> frop =drop
[21:14] <colbyfttp> just looking to see if there is a lazy way to change the ppa version
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> colbyfttp  contact the maintainer of the ppa
[21:15] <locksmith2> use the "alien
[21:15] <locksmith2> alien program
[21:15] <locksmith2> there are ppa rebuilding apps
[21:15] <colbyfttp> ah so no then :) phooey,
[21:15] <colbyfttp> alien??
[21:16] <locksmith2> yep
[21:16] <locksmith2> alien
[21:16] <locksmith2> its a program
[21:16] <locksmith2>        alien - Convert or install an alien binary package
[21:16] <colbyfttp> to the google machine I go :)
[21:16] <locksmith2> it lets you rebuild packages
[21:16] <locksmith2> with your own version info
[21:17] <locksmith2> I mean it rebuilds them for you
[21:17] <colbyfttp> ah yes, cool will check it out. Thanks
[21:17] <Bogdaniel> guys stupid question: does anyone has a nice bash profile that want's to share ? :D
[21:17] <locksmith2> look at the --version parameter
[21:18] <zy3pD> hi, I want to pass a bash command to a lua script: how to prevent that the parameters are executed as single commands? (Shell Command Injection)
[21:20] <tzun-hai> how can i use sudo and do not use /root to store the data, and use user's home folder?
[21:20] <EriC^^> tzun-hai: that's the default behavior i think
[21:21] <Bashing-om> Bogdaniel: If the profiles have been modified, it is for that users preferences, not much real use to another (?) . Generally the default profile backups are kept in " /etc/skel " directory .
[21:21] <EriC^^> tzun-hai: type sudo echo $HOME
[21:21] <Fuchs> it is unless you use -i or -s, why you'd want that is a better question, though
[21:21] <tzun-hai> you're right Eric^^ thanks.
[21:21] <Bogdaniel> Bashing-om, i know .. :-) been working alot with bash lately.. and i'm kinda sick with the default stuff :-D i was looking for something nice and colored :)) :D
[21:22] <Fuchs> tzun-hai: note that this also means that running graphical applications with sudo will break things, thus the "why you'd want that" part
[21:24] <tzun-hai> YES, this is the problem with virtualbox...
[21:25] <tzun-hai> ikonia: i got the problem
[21:25] <tzun-hai> was the sudo virtualbox uses the root folder instead the NORMAL $home
[21:26] <tzun-hai> thx Fuchs
[21:26] <EriC^^> tzun-hai: why are you running virtualbox as root?
[21:26] <tzun-hai> i really dont remember the why
[21:26] <tzun-hai> it requires me in some point
[21:26] <tzun-hai> i do not take notes about all :( srry
[21:27] <tzun-hai> im trying to remember what was
[21:28] <tzun-hai> i really think i do something wrong when i test it
[21:28] <EriC^^> ok
[21:28] <tzun-hai> but struggling about why it does uses root folder instead home
[21:28] <tzun-hai> was something about vmdk raw disk, using a real disk into a vm
[21:28] <tzun-hai> wich need roots to create it
[21:28] <EriC^^> yeah i thought so
[21:28] <EriC^^> i had to use root once for that
[21:29] <tzun-hai> ;P
[21:29] <EriC^^> why are you running a vm using a raw disk image?
[21:29] <tzun-hai> because i like play
[21:29] <EriC^^> you dont want to restart?
[21:29] <tzun-hai> dont
[21:29] <EriC^^> why not just dualboot?
[21:29] <tzun-hai> dual?
[21:29] <EriC^^> yeah run the os on that disk
[21:29] <tzun-hai> do you mean grub option?
[21:29] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:29] <tzun-hai> there is not DUAL
[21:29] <tzun-hai> not realy dual
[21:29] <tzun-hai> not fair name
[21:30] <tzun-hai> this is OPTION boot, not dual
[21:30] <tzun-hai> dual mean at time
[21:30] <EriC^^> if it's installed on the actual disk, then just have the bios boot it
[21:30] <EriC^^> hehe
[21:30] <EriC^^> you mean simultaneously?
[21:30] <tzun-hai> yes
[21:30] <tzun-hai> will love that
[21:30] <en1gma> how do i set enviroemental variable to make '/home/en1gma/aircrack-ng/scripts/airmon-ng' it globally executable and so apps like reaver can access it when it calls it?
[21:31] <tzun-hai> Eric^^ not so far ago, i was Windows 7 user, and i like to install ubuntu 12 on a second hd
[21:31] <en1gma> for some reason it (compiling from source) isnt making it executable and globally executable. i have to browse to that directory and then do a ./home/en1gma/aircrack-ng/scripts/airmon-ng
[21:31] <tzun-hai> sometines, i wanna test something without leave my OS, so i used Virtualbox to make changes to my real HDD dat
[21:31] <tzun-hai> this is the why i did
[21:31] <tzun-hai> now i dont use, but still curious
[21:31] <EriC^^> i see
[21:32] <tzun-hai> now i can chown files, move then use without sudo... so i have not real problem
[21:32] <tzun-hai> thank you
[21:33] <EriC^^> ok, no problem
[21:33] <en1gma> i did this 'export PATH=$PATH:/home/en1gma/aircrack-ng/scripts/airmon-ng' but it didnt work
[21:35] <tzun-hai> as ubuntu users, wich other distros are more like this?
[21:35] <tzun-hai> im looking a bit for all of distros
[21:37] <TJ-> en1gma: If you build from source, projects usually default to a "make install" using the prefix "/usr/local" but you can usually override that on the command-line with "--prefix=..." Usually "make --help" will provide project-specific hints
[21:38] <TJ-> en1gma: Secondly, when building from source and wanting to execute the resulting binaries you may also need to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH so the executable can find its own libraries
[21:40] <en1gma> oh crap.
[21:40] <en1gma> where do i need them to go or settings to use
[21:41] <en1gma> i bet i just need the LD_LIBRARY_PATH command
[21:41] <en1gma> set to /usr/local
[21:42] <en1gma> make install prefix for default /usr/local will be ok i think
[21:44] <geirha> en1gma: PATH should only contain directories, not the commands themselves
[21:44] <en1gma> so how do i do it
[21:45] <geirha> PATH=$PATH:/home/en1gma/aircrack-ng/scripts
[21:45] <geirha> airmon-ng
[21:46] <TJ-> en1gma: The "/usr/local/" structure is intended for locally-built and installed packages, that aren't under the control of a system package manager, so doing "sudo make install" will put things where they'll be found without you needing to change any paths. Look at the existing path and you'll see "/usr/local/bin/" is looked at before the system directories
[21:46] <geirha> the shell will go through every directory listed in the PATH variable, until it finds one that contains a file named airmon-ng, and then it will execute that
[21:48] <Fezzler> Unplugged 3 SATA cables from motherboard.  DVD; SSD drive; Reg HD.  Don't know what goes in SATA_Express port or SATA3 or sSATA3 ports.  UGH!
[21:48] <Fezzler> I think SSD hardrive goes in SATA_Express port?
[21:49] <Fezzler> Other two go in SATA3 and nothing goes in sSATA3?
[21:49] <Ben64> Fezzler: more of a ##hardware question but it doesn't matter
[21:49] <en1gma> TJ- i have it installed there and the file "airmon-ng" is set as executable now. right now i can only execute from a term in that directory by doing './airmon-ng'
[21:49] <en1gma> what exactly do i need to do to fix it
[21:49] <en1gma> im just not getting what you are saying
[21:49] <Fezzler> Ben64> Couldn't post there for some reason
[21:50] <Ben64> Fezzler: might need to register then
[21:50] <geirha> en1gma: Do you see it if you run this?   type -a airmon-ng
[21:51] <Fezzler> Ben64> Not quite sure how to register.
[21:51] <Ben64> !register | Fezzler
[21:51] <en1gma> en1gma@en1gma-All-Series:~$ sudo -i
[21:51] <en1gma> root@en1gma-All-Series:~# -a airmon-ng
[21:51] <en1gma> -a: command not found
[21:51] <en1gma> if i do it as non sudo something else happens
[21:52] <EriC^^> type is a command en1gma
[21:52] <geirha> en1gma: type -a airmon-ng, not -a airmon-ng
[21:52] <TJ-> en1gma: You mean you've done "make install" and the script is executable in "/usr/local/bin/" ? Did you remove the addition to the PATH variable you made earlier that points into the source directory... that might be finding the script first
[21:52] <en1gma> never removed the export function i added
[21:52] <EriC^^> en1gma: add it to root's $PATH then, if it works without sudo
[21:53] <Ben64> en1gma: why sudo -i? just 'sudo airmon-ng' should work if the PATH is set up properly
[21:53] <TJ-> en1gma: hint: doing "which some-command" will search PATH and tell you the absolute path to the file that would be executed
[21:53] <EriC^^> or what Ben64 said
[21:53] <essay> hey, has anyone here tried using mqueue.h? i've been trying to use it, gcc keeps reporting errors like 'undefined reference to mq_open'.
[21:53] <geirha> use "type" rather than "which" though
[21:54] <essay> the same project does build on CentOS just fine.
[21:54] <en1gma> TJ neither sudo or non sudo find it. only way it to be in the ~/aircrack-ng/scripts directory and doing ./airmon-ng
[21:54] <geirha> which is a non-standard, external command that only searches PATH. type is a standard, builtin command that tells you what and/or where a command is
[21:54] <Ben64> en1gma: which is why you need to set the path properly
[21:55] <en1gma> with the export or the LD_LIBRARY_PATH function and do i do it for root and non root?
[21:55] <EriC^^> yeah, type would also tell you if an alias is set or not
[21:55] <EriC^^> fwiw
[21:55] <Ben64> en1gma: <geirha> PATH=$PATH:/home/en1gma/aircrack-ng/scripts
[21:55] <en1gma> i never typed the word type
[21:55] <en1gma> do i need to type 'type'?
[21:55] <TJ-> essay: how are you including it from your source-code?
[21:56] <essay> #include <mqueue.h>
[21:56] <al2o3-cr> isn't the aircrack-ng suite in the repos?
[21:56] <essay> TJ: I also have the '-lrt' flag set.
[21:56] <TJ-> essay: If it's the one from linux-linc-dev you need "#include <linux/mqueue.h>"
[21:56] <TJ-> s/linc/libc/ !!
[21:56] <Ben64> al2o3-cr: yep
[21:57] <en1gma> ben64 gierha*
[21:57] <en1gma> FTW
[21:57] <en1gma> thanks guys. im copying that command to my desktop
[21:57] <geirha> en1gma: ''type -a airmon-ng'' will list all the available commands named airmon-ng, sorted in prioritized order
[21:57] <al2o3-cr> ah, then maybe he's just after the latest
[21:58] <EriC^^> en1gma: add it to your ~/.profile or something
[21:58] <essay> TJ-: i was using eglibc. does that not have it?
[21:59] <TJ-> essay: apt-file he say "libc6-dev: /usr/include/mqueue.h"
[21:59] <en1gma> "-a airmon-ng" as root or non root = command not found
[22:00] <en1gma> oh wait
[22:00] <Ben64> stop doing -a!
[22:00] <EriC^^> en1gma: the command is type -a airmon-ng
[22:00] <TJ-> essay: hint: "find /usr/include -type f -name 'mqueue.h'  "
[22:00] <en1gma> "airmon-ng is /home/en1gma/aircrack-ng/scripts/airmon-ng"
[22:00] <essay> yes, i do have it in /usr/include
[22:00] <TJ-> PATH still hasn't been reset
[22:00] <en1gma> i did the path command
[22:01] <geirha> en1gma: there you go, it has found it now
[22:01] <en1gma> ahh cool
[22:01] <en1gma> so i need to add what to my ~/.profile
[22:01] <geirha> when you run airmon-ng, it will execute /home/en1gma/aircrack-ng/scripts/airmon-ng
[22:01] <en1gma> that location?
[22:01] <EriC^^> en1gma: the PATH=... command
[22:01] <en1gma> what happens when i run reaver? will it look for it there too?
[22:02] <TJ-> That's a terrible way to do it... much better to install it properly; changing the path to run commands from source builds is a recipe for trouble
[22:02] <geirha> yeah, add PATH=~/aircrack-ng/scripts:$PATH   to the end of  ~/.profile   to make it permanent
[22:02] <en1gma> thanks guys
[22:02] <en1gma> thats exactly what i was needing
[22:05] <essay> anyone have any idea what's happening in my situation?
[22:06] <en1gma> wait
[22:06] <TJ-> essay: Is the symbol not present in the header? Have you checked?
[22:07] <en1gma> its not it
[22:07] <EriC^^> en1gma: what's not?
[22:07] <en1gma> the tab complete pops it up but when i finish the command it does not execute. says command not found
[22:07] <essay> TJ-: the function declarations are present.
[22:08] <EriC^^> en1gma: does type still point to it?
[22:08] <jeluk> how o i set up a private channel?
[22:08] <en1gma> only way still to execute is by doing 'sudo ./aircrack-ng/scripts/airmon-ng'
[22:08] <en1gma> tab complete pops up airmon-ng just fine
[22:09] <en1gma> but when i hit enter command not found
[22:09] <EriC^^> en1gma: type sudo type -a airmon-ng
[22:09] <TJ-> essay: oh sorry! is this a linker error... can you show be the gcc command line you're using?
[22:09] <en1gma> "sudo: type: command not found"
[22:09] <EriC^^> en1gma: type echo $PATH
[22:10] <EriC^^> en1gma: or sudo echo $PATH
[22:10] <EriC^^> wait what
[22:10] <EriC^^> type is a builtin
[22:10]  * zykotick9 thought cracking software was OT in #ubuntu
[22:10] <en1gma> what do i put between the '   '
[22:10] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[22:10] <geirha> If you want to run it as root, don't install it in your homedir
[22:10] <essay> TJ-: cc -lrt  -o project file1.o file2.o
[22:11] <en1gma> oh the svn is in the home dir
[22:11] <en1gma> ok i think we got it :)
[22:11] <essay> TJ-: yes, this seems to be a linker error
[22:11] <en1gma> do i need to remove the export path in ~./profile. probably as it will need to be in /root/./profile i bet
[22:12] <en1gma> yea i think your right
[22:12] <en1gma> well wait
[22:12] <en1gma> yep i think. i try new install real quick
[22:12] <TJ-> essay: You must list the libraries to be linked *after* the source-file name
[22:12] <en1gma> let me clean up first
[22:12] <TJ-> essay: as in "gcc mqueue.c -lrt"
[22:14] <essay> TJ-: mqueue.h is a standard header file.
[22:14] <geirha> en1gma: install it to /usr/local like suggested several times already
[22:14] <TJ-> essay: I know
[22:14] <TJ-> essay: I just built against the rt librarry without a problem
[22:16] <tzun-hai> clear
[22:16] <tzun-hai> ¬¬ omg clear
[22:16] <tzun-hai> bye!
[22:17] <essay> TJ-: ok, so if file1.o and file2.o are my object files, then i need to use 'gcc mqueue.c -lrt -o project file1.o file2.o'?
[22:18] <TJ-> essay: "gcc -o project file1.o file2.o myprogram.c -lrt" ... -l needs to follow other options
[22:19] <OnkelTem> Hi
[22:19] <OnkelTem> My clock is wrong and I have no idea how to set correct time
[22:20] <essay> TJ-: oh, i see what you're saying. let me try that. interestingly, this had worked fine when i was building on CentOS.
[22:20] <OnkelTem> I have ntp installed
[22:20] <TJ-> essay: see "man gcc" and "/-l library" (around line 6365) ... order is significant
[22:20] <en1gma> geirha how does the 'make' and 'sudo make install' look with /usr/local prefix
[22:20] <en1gma> cleaning up again
[22:21] <jeluk> what are you fellas installing?
[22:21] <TJ-> essay: older versions of gcc didn't do this, it caught a lot of devs out when gcc introduced the change since it broke Makefiles galore, but that was years ago now :)
[22:21] <andybrine> Does anyone know the directory where I can find icons?
[22:21] <andybrine> looking everywhere for it
[22:21] <OnkelTem> how to set time?
[22:22] <TJ-> andybrine: "/usr/share/icons"
[22:23] <TJ-> andybrine: and "/usr/share/pixmaps"
[22:23] <essay> TJ-: that worked, thanks!
[22:23] <andybrine> awesome, thanks TJ-
[22:23] <TJ-> OnkelTem: see "man date"
[22:24] <OnkelTem> TJ-: i have hwclock resetted to 2001 1 jan
[22:24] <TJ-> OnkelTem: you want to reset the hardware clock/
[22:24] <OnkelTem> TJ-: I dont want to set clock manually, I have ntp installed, but it doesn't update hwclock
[22:25] <TJ-> OnkelTem: It won't if the drift is more than about 1 second; see "man ntpdate"
[22:25] <OnkelTem> then how to force it?
[22:25] <TJ-> OnkelTem: see the man-page; I think '-b' looks to do what you need
[22:26] <OnkelTem> also, ntpdate clams it sees no server. At that /etc/ntp.conf has the list of default ubuntu servers )
[22:28] <TJ-> OnkelTem:  did you use the debug option to analyse why?
[22:30] <Loshki> OnkelTem: well, can you ping any of the ntp servers?
[22:30] <OnkelTem> Loshki: yes. I just noticed it says: "no servers can be _used_"
[22:31] <OnkelTem> Why I issue just ntpdate -d, I get two lines, the first with the current real time and the second with that "no servers.." message
[22:31] <OnkelTem> When*
[22:32] <Loshki> Sounds like this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193509
[22:32] <TJ-> OnkelTem: please *read* the man-page. ntpdate requires a NTP server as an argument
[22:33] <TJ-> OnkelTem: if you want the version that reads /etc/ntp.conf use "ntpdate-debian"
[22:36] <Ben64> speaking of time stuff, what's up with this?  4 Jul 15:36:04 ntpdate[13230]: ntpdate 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Mon Apr 13 13:39:47 UTC 2015 (1)
[22:37] <OnkelTem> TJ-: -b and other options doesn't seem to set the time
[22:37] <Ben64> wait nevermind, i'm dumb. thought the times were off by 3 minutes
[22:37] <OnkelTem> does this mean that the only way to set my hwclock is to do this mamually?
[22:37] <Ben64> OnkelTem: sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov
[22:40] <OnkelTem> Ben64: no, this doesn't work. Server is bad :)
[22:41] <Ben64> OnkelTem: what do you mean
[22:41] <OnkelTem> "no server suitable for synchronization is found"
[22:42] <TJ-> OnkelTem: is "hwclock --systohc" not working?
[22:42] <hplc> where to find lists suitable for use in proxies as blocklist? i tried googling and all i find is lists for p2p clients banlists, im in need of "one host per line" format. i thought i found it on "https://www.iblocklist.com/lists.php" but it doesnt seem to fit "TinyProxy" ban-list format
[22:43] <OnkelTem> TJ-: working, but I had to set it manually with date
[22:43] <Ben64> OnkelTem: sudo ntpdate 199.102.46.73
[22:43] <OnkelTem> TJ-: but I can't set it so exact that it would match real time +/- 1sec
[22:44] <OnkelTem> Just how to set local system time unconditionally and instantly?
[22:44] <TJ-> OnkelTem: you need to diagnose the network connectivity, so ntpdate-debian or ntpdate can be used
[22:44] <andybrine> is there a place to download the default icon theme folder? I deleted it b mistake
[22:45] <TJ-> OnkelTem: the ntpd should be keeping the system time accurate if it can connec to the NTP pool servers
[22:45] <Ben64> andybrine: what folder, and why are you going around deleting stuff
[22:45] <OnkelTem> TJ-: when I run any of those commands with -d option I get a bunch of output - it can connect servers
[22:45] <Ben64> OnkelTem: run the command i gave you
[22:46] <TJ-> andybrine: this command will list all the packages that install icons: "dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/"
[22:46] <andybrine> Ben64 I had problems with one of my icon themes so I installed all folders apart from Adwaita which I thought was default
[22:46] <OnkelTem> Ben64: no servers message again
[22:46] <Ben64> OnkelTem: pastebin the full command and error
[22:46] <OnkelTem> Ben64: and I can ping it
[22:46] <TJ-> andybrine: from those you can then reinstall any that you've deleted files from with "sudo apt-get --reinstall install <package>"
[22:47] <andybrine> ok thanks TJ-
[22:47] <TJ-> OnkelTem: Ping is ICMP, NTP uses UDP ... check the firewall
[22:47] <OnkelTem> TJ-: I have no one
[22:48] <TJ-> OnkelTem: The gateway/router will have one surely?
[22:49] <OnkelTem> Ben64: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/659457f6c51e01706611
[22:50] <OnkelTem> TJ-: sure, but it is trasparent, I don't force any special rules. My other PC works fine
[22:51] <sammyg> bekks: i know it's a tad bit late now, but what did you mean by "those are filesystem types (not to be mixed up with actual filesystems)"? filesystem type vs. actual filesystem?
[22:51] <OnkelTem> TJ-: see the gist, it is connecting actually
[22:51] <TJ-> OnkelTem: that pastebin shows the connection was OK... if you drop the -d debug option it should step the clock 175 seconds according to that
[22:51] <OnkelTem> but doesn't set time
[22:52] <TJ-> OnkelTem: please *read* the man-pages like we do, they tell you all this! "-d     Enable the debugging mode, in which ntpdate will go through all the steps, but ****not adjust the local  clock****.  Information useful for general debugging will also be printed."
[22:53] <Ben64> OnkelTem: yep, thats why i said run the command i said
[22:53] <OnkelTem> TJ-: damn right! But as I said it doens't update the clock and prints message: "no server suitable for synchronization found"
[22:54] <Ben64> well pastebin it!
[22:54] <OnkelTem> command is just the same
[22:54] <TJ-> OnkelTem: Because you need "-b" to force the step
[22:54] <OnkelTem> moment
[22:55] <TJ-> That gist shows the offset is 175 seconds. It isn't going to try to slew that, it had to step it
[22:55] <OnkelTem> same crap, "no server suitable.. " message with -b
[22:55] <OnkelTem> ah, so I have to rerun this command ermm 175 times?
[22:55] <OnkelTem> :)
[22:55] <anew> anyone know where the heck the phpmyadmin folder is for ubuntu 1404 lts
[22:56] <OnkelTem> anew: dpkg -L phpmyadmin
[22:56] <anew> ah thanks
[22:57] <sammyg> is it possible for linux to have hidden extended partitions or partition tables?
[22:57] <krc> Anyone here competent with pulseaudio?
[22:57] <anew> OnkelTem, how can i find a specific file now?  (phpmyadmin.config)
[22:58] <OnkelTem> anew: dpkg -L phpmyadmin | grep config
[22:58] <krc4267> I have a problem with pulseaudio and bluetooth. Anyone able to help?
[22:59] <OnkelTem> anew: 12.xx doesn't have such a file btw. Dunno about 14.xx
[22:59] <anew> damn that's nice... but i dont think it's in that folder... can i search everything for 'phpmyadmin.config' ?
[22:59] <anew> o rly
[22:59] <OnkelTem> anew: do you use apache?
[22:59] <anew> yes apache
[22:59] <TJ-> OnkelTem: I offset the time 2 minutes backward then tried it here and it works: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11823853/
[23:00] <oobfdsa> has anyone noticed issues with the latest kernels on 15.04?
[23:00] <OnkelTem> anew: then check out /etc/apache2/conf-available dir
[23:00] <krc4267> I haven't noticed issues with the kernel but apt-get upgrade broke a2dp for my headset
[23:01] <oobfdsa> on 2 separate machines, latest won't boot and I have to downgrade. 3.19.15 works ok, 3.19.21 won't boot
[23:01] <anew> yep
[23:01] <anew> brilliant
[23:01] <anew> thanks man
[23:01] <TJ-> oobfdsa: has the /boot/ file-system run out of space? "df"
[23:01] <oobfdsa> TJ-: no
[23:02] <TJ-> oobfdsa: what error do you see
[23:02] <oobfdsa> don't have it recorded off hand
[23:02] <TJ-> does the kernel start to boot and Panic, or freeze, or you get some kind of crash once the initrd starts work?
[23:03] <OnkelTem> TJ-: I see. Bringing the secular light of reboot to my laptop now
[23:03] <TJ-> OnkelTem: Awwwww
[23:04] <oobfdsa> actually sorry it seems my memory is a bit fuzzy. one it panics or oops, the other loads but one of the screens doesn't have any output
[23:04] <TJ-> oobfdsa: I'd suggest next time you try it being ready with a camera/video recorder and try to capture something useful we can use to diagnose it
[23:05] <krc4267> my system is running 3.19.0-21-generic and it's working fine atm
[23:05] <TJ-> oobfdsa: are the 2 PCs the same make/model? do they share common hardware chipsets?
[23:05] <krc4267> for what that's worth
[23:05] <sammyg> OerHeks: extended partition in mbr is not "primary"... yes it's sort of primary... taking the 16 byte entry space, but it's "extended" by definition and fdisk or parted will show you this... extended has a partition type of 05h (chs address) or 07h (lba address).
[23:06] <TJ-> For new kernel installs I first suspect a corrupt kernel image or more likely the initrd.img ... it's always worth reinstall the kernel package and regenerating the initrd.img
[23:09] <krc4267> So, for a long time now if a bluetooth headset was paired before pulseaudio started it wouldn't switch to a2dp. That's still the case except now when I pair a headset with pulse running it crashes pulse. Any ideas?
[23:14] <sammyg> OerHeks: linux extended partitions do have their own partition type id, it's 85h... that's what i meant... so extended partition created in linux is 85h and in windows or dos it's 05h or 0Fh... and those are partition types, not filesystem types... it depends where you create them, what tool you use etc.
[23:16] <TJ-> sammyg: what is your issue?
[23:17] <colbyfttp> hey folks, anyone use touchscreen laptop, if so is there specific way to set it up?
[23:17] <colbyfttp> such as on screen keyboard
[23:20] <sammyg> TJ-: i installed windows 10, ubuntu 15.04, fedora 22 on same hdd, mbr... bios system... windows system partition is primary, one extended, one logical with windows 10, installed ubuntu with one logical for swap and another for root and etc... installed fedora... asked for standard partition... no lvm... also two logical, one swap, one root... got 2 primary instead... out of bound of extended partition... so i am thinking it may be logical
[23:20] <sammyg>  but shows up as primary only... linked list of extended boot records...
[23:20] <sammyg> i was thinking about diving in with a disk editor...
[23:21] <sammyg> if someone has a clue... please post here
[23:21] <sammyg> here is paste: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/239834/
[23:45] <alexd_> Ubuntu world
[23:46] <alexd_> can anyone tell me how to install a program downloaded apart from  software updater?  I downloaded Firefox Developer which is a special firefox browser with built in web development tools. It is a tar.bz2 file extension.  I extracted it but can not find a readme file.
[23:53] <Zebra111> Whenever I hold down a key on my USB keyboard and move my mouse, the mouse stutters really bad and it's difficult to play video games. What can I do to fix this?
[23:53] <jeluk> recalibrate i guess
[23:54] <Zebra111> jeluk How would I be able to recalibrate it? For some reason the trackpad doesn't have the same behaviour though
[23:54] <Elion> hi, i have an ubuntu 15.04 on an iscsi network disk, when i try to enable ufw it just crash the OS, what rules should i add to enable ufw ?
[23:55] <jeluk> not sure then zebra
[23:55] <jeluk> and dunno elion haven't touched the ufw much
[23:57] <Foxhoundz> ubuntu 15 is out?
[23:57] <Foxhoundz> when did this happen?
[23:58] <bazhang> april
[23:58] <hubrmph> Foxhoundz: 15.04=4-15
[23:58] <hubrmph> or so
[23:58] <ahmed__> hi
[23:58] <jeluk> ubuntu 15 has been out for ages
[23:59] <ahmed__> anyone can tell me how to display my current version of ubuntu from the terminal
[23:59] <Elion> April
[23:59] <Elion> ahmed__: lsb_release -a