[09:15] <samba35> i want to configure mail and web server on same system in that case what hostname i should use
[09:16] <bekks> So do it?
[09:16] <bekks> The hostname is irrelevant.
[09:16] <samba35> my public rdns is aa.x.z
[09:16] <samba35> ok
[09:18] <samba35> if i have web server with abcd.com and mail server with aaa.com in that case what should be hostname
[09:18] <bekks> The hostname is irrelevant.
[09:19] <samba35> ok then what i should configure
[09:19] <bekks> You need to configure your webserver and your mailserver to work for the domains/mailboxes you want.
[09:20] <samba35> ok
[09:20] <samba35> do you have idea on postfix (banner name config)
[09:21] <bekks> Start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[09:21] <bekks> The banner is the most irrelevant part in your list.
[09:21] <bekks> And the name is irrelevant too. All that matters is the config.
[09:22] <samba35> i am getting banner and tls related error on mxtoolbox.com for my smtp configuration
[09:22] <bekks> So fix your configuration.
[13:57] <sarthor> Hi, I am using ubuntu-server 14.04, want to install pt-get install python-simplejson python-tz python-unicodecsv python-unittest2 python-vatnumber python-vobject python-werkzeug python-xlwt python-yaml wkhtmltopdf
[13:57] <sarthor> , but nothin happens.it says. "0% [Waiting for headers]" how to change repositories if that can help.
[18:35] <Lurchy_away> happy sunday people
[18:36] <Lurchy> question about ubuntu server backup
[18:36] <Lurchy> in reading...I thought I saw where there is a default backup option for ubuntu server....correct?
[18:37] <Lurchy> I have a fresh install and want to take a snapshot of disk image...
[18:37] <Lurchy> before I start adding stuff...
[18:38] <Lurchy> what is best option for backing up accross a network an archive drive on another box?  other box is dual boot win7 and ubuntu client
[18:38] <Lurchy> what is best option for backing up accross a network to an archive drive on another box?  other box is dual boot win7 and ubuntu client
[18:39] <Lurchy> I am reading tutorial at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[18:41] <Lurchy> There are lots of otions....I think I want to auto incrementall via CRN
[18:41] <Lurchy> err CRON
[18:42] <Lurchy> any opinions?
[18:45] <teward> with regards to Landscape, are VPSes considered Virtual or Physical machines?
[19:11] <Lurchy> nobody awake?
[19:11] <Lurchy> rsync help anyone?
[19:13] <ikonia> ask a real question rather than just saying key words
[19:14] <Lurchy> look up
[19:15] <ikonia> nope
[19:15] <ObrienDave> 'look up' is not a question or a good way of receiving help
[19:15] <ikonia> hence why I'm going to do something else instead of help
[19:16] <Lurchy> so...rsynch is installed on ubuntu server...seems grsynch is used to backup a client...is that correct?
[19:17] <Lurchy> trying to use grsynch on my client box on network to backup my ubunut server to a network drive...
[19:19] <Lurchy> besides Ikonia...I dont want your help after your insulting attitude towards me from before....sorry I am not an expert at linux...at least I am trying
[19:19] <Lurchy> [00:23] <ikonia> you have no idea what you are doing
[19:19] <Lurchy> remember?
[19:20] <ikonia> Lurchy: I have no idea what you are talking about, and 00:23 could be anytime, but as I've hardly been active for 48 hours, I'm not sure where you got that from
[19:21] <pmatulis> Lurchy: rsync can be used to back up files. is that what you want?
[19:21]  * Lurchy ignores ikonia
[19:22] <Lurchy> pmatulis..im trying to learn how to use rsynch to do incremental backups from my ubuntu server accross a network
[19:22] <ikonia> man rsync
[19:23] <ikonia> and there are many basic howtos on the net
[19:23] <ikonia> you'll get a better response if you ask specific questions
[19:23] <Lurchy> Im asking for opinions to help me decide the route to go...as I honestly admit I a newb on ubuntu server...
[19:24] <ikonia> opions on what though ?
[19:24] <ikonia> you've not stated what you're actually doing
[19:24] <ikonia> what are your requirements and what is the question based around those requirements
[19:24] <Lurchy> and check your logs....you know what those are dont you?  and you would recall your crappy treatment towards me.....
[19:24] <ikonia> Lurchy: logs of what/when ?
[19:26] <Lurchy> just drop it....
[19:26] <ikonia> drop what ?
[19:26] <Lurchy> the issue
[19:26] <ikonia> I have no idea what you are on about, and YOU keep referencing something
[19:26] <ikonia> I'm asking for your requirements and the problem around your requirements that you want help with
[19:26] <ikonia> you keep referencing some past problem you have
[19:26] <ikonia> no-one else
[19:27] <Lurchy> bottom line...I dont want help from you.....
[19:27] <ikonia> you'll get help from no-one if you can't ask a question clearly
[19:27] <ikonia> or respond with the attitude you're showing me
[19:27] <Lurchy> when you insult people with less knowledge than you
[19:28] <ikonia> no-one is insulting you
[19:28] <ikonia> you've just been asked to state your question clearly
[19:29] <Lurchy> recall you said I should only use ubuntu client...when I said I wanted to use ubuntu server to learn command line...and you said I had no clue what I was doing....
[19:30] <Lurchy> but...I prefer to move on.....
[19:30] <ikonia> so ?
[19:30] <ikonia> ubuntu desktop is great for learning
[19:30] <ikonia> if you prefer to move on - why do you keep referencing it
[19:30] <Lurchy> I am using both.....
[19:30] <ikonia> what ?
[19:30] <ikonia> just use the desktop - and use a shell on the desktop to learn the command line
[19:30] <ikonia> the shell is the same as the non-X11 enviornment of the server
[19:30] <ikonia> but you have the desktop tools to fall back on / make multi-tasking easier
[19:31] <ikonia> it won't stop you learning anything
[19:31] <ikonia> it will just make it easier for you to find your feet
[19:33] <pmatulis> Lurchy: i recommend launching rsync manually until you understand what it does and how it does it. if you're not looking to create disk images but simply to back up precious files then rsync may work well for you. if the destination of the files is on a remote host you can use SSH, which rsync understands natively, or just ensure the DST network "drive" is exposed locally
[19:34] <pmatulis> Lurchy: but rsync command syntax does need to be understood. so either ① man rysnc or ② check some online tutorial (both what ikonia said)
[19:34] <ikonia> (or ask specific questions about what you're trying to do)
[19:35] <Lurchy> yes pmatulis....I want to backup the whole drive on the ubuntu server to a remote drive....at least until I move archived media files to the drive and it gets large....but goal is to take snapshots along the way so if I screw something up I can go back(similar to norton ghost functionality)
[19:36] <Lurchy> so..is rsync the best to do this?  or would another solution be better?
[19:36] <ikonia> Lurchy: you'll struggle with that approach, it will be a lot of disk space
[19:36] <ikonia> rsync is not a snapshot tool
[19:36] <ikonia> it's a file / file system tool
[19:36] <pmatulis> Lurchy: yeah, then rsync is not your tool. study 'clonezilla' for image management
[19:37] <pmatulis> http://clonezilla.org/
[19:38] <ikonia> keep in mind that cannot be used while the host is online
[19:39] <Lurchy> ok....question for down the road...if I wish to mirror the website on my domain to this local lamp box...would rsync be the way to go?  I want to take snapshots (I heard of clonezilla) as I set this box up (for the moment)
[19:40] <Lurchy> but clonezilla I dont think would allow me to mirror the website....true?
[19:40] <Lurchy> er would not
[19:40] <ikonia> Lurchy: clonezilla for a whole machine, rsync for files
[19:41] <Lurchy> ok....rsynch would automate the mirroring function I am trying to accomplish...updating files that are changed on hosted to the local lamp box...and vie versa?
[19:42] <Lurchy> vice versa
[19:42] <ikonia> not automate
[19:42] <ikonia> you'd have to automate it using rsync
[19:42] <ikonia> no
[19:42] <ikonia> you have to write the automation, rsync is just the tool
[19:42] <Lurchy> automate via CRON on hosted besite...or on the lamp box
[19:42] <Lurchy> website
[19:42] <ikonia> either
[19:42] <ikonia> your choice
[19:43] <Lurchy> ok
[19:44] <Lurchy> My box I currently have the ubuntu server install on does not have a video card in it...do I need a video card to run ubuntu client?  Or can I install the client version on the box...remove video card...and then ssh splashtop/VNC/etc.  into the box?
[19:45] <ikonia> client ?
[19:45] <ikonia> what do you mean ubuntu client ?
[19:45] <Lurchy> yes
[19:45] <ikonia> what is ubuntu client ?
[19:45] <Lurchy> ubuntu desktop
[19:45] <Lurchy> non-cli
[19:45] <ikonia> you will need graphics to run a desktop
[19:46] <ikonia> so something to render graphics
[19:46] <Lurchy> hmmm....
[19:47] <Lurchy> this was one of the reasons I made decision to go with ubuntu server....but I shall reconsider
[19:48] <Lurchy> I installed ubuntu server into the dual core box I made to be my LAMP server...then configured openssh to remote admin the box...
[19:49] <Lurchy> over the network I made....
[19:50] <Lurchy> Putty is what I am using....is that a good choice for openssh remote admin client?
[19:51] <ikonia> it's just an ssh client
[19:51] <ikonia> use whatever you like
[19:55] <Lurchy> ty for the info...ill be back....gonna read a couple tutorials.
[19:59] <sarthor> Hi, I want to install these packages. "http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827688/" my /etc/apt/source.lst is also there in pasted matter, says " Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?" . no result for apt-get update --fix-missing HELP
[20:00] <sarthor> how to add more repository if i am using 14.04
[20:18] <sarthor> Hi, my ubuntu 14.04 is unable to "apt-get install nginx"  Can some check on their own side.
[20:39] <pmatulis> sarthor: works fine for me up here in this cloud
[20:39] <sarthor> pmatulis, I am installing on my vm, No cloud involved.
[20:40] <sarthor> Can you share your source.lst pmatulis ? or the repo
[20:44] <pmatulis> sarthor: this is all i have in my file:
[20:44] <pmatulis> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted universe multiverse
[20:44] <pmatulis> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[20:52] <sarthor> pmatulis, says W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[20:52] <sarthor> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:58] <TJ-> sarnold: "sudo apt-get update" first