[00:00] <ahmed__> thank you
[00:01] <joe__> Hi, do somone know a package for ubuntu who is like a "siri"but in the terminal
[00:07] <SchrodingersScat> !info googlecl | joe__
[00:07] <dennis_> Good evening, how is it going?
[00:08] <dennis_> I have a Problem with my Ubuntu Mate and aint able to solve it myself....
[00:09] <xangua> joe__: I've seen this http://www.webupd8.org/2014/02/linux-speech-recognition-using-google.html
[00:09] <balloon> Hello. I am IRC first participation.
[00:10] <dennis_> My Problem is, that ubuntu suspend isnt working correctly
[00:10] <dennis_> When i want to wake it up after suspend all mate Buttons are gone.
[00:10] <joe__> xangua, thx ! gonna check it out
[00:13] <hubrmph> dennis_: THis mate from a ppa or the ubuntu repos?
[00:13] <dennis_> no, its the image from https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[00:15] <hubrmph> dennis_: Not sure it's supported here, maybe others know, has to be a canonical associated release, not a derivative.
[00:16] <dennis_> omg
[00:18] <hubrmph> dennis_: If you're not supported here, ubuntu has mate in the repos for some releases, you would have to research that is all.
[00:19] <xangua> yes, ubuntu mate is an official family member starting with 15.04
[00:20] <hubrmph> Thought it was thanks, xangua
[00:20] <hubrmph> dennis_: Just a suggestion, you could do a net install with mate and have a ubuntu with just mate.
[00:21] <hubrmph> fully supported here.
[00:21] <xangua> or just install ubuntu mate
[00:22] <hubrmph> xangua: I had heard there was a release, just didn't check, my bad.
[00:23] <hubrmph> xangua: Is it this? https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[00:24] <yorwos> i have downloaded a program to install and in the instructions it says to do "/bin/sh ./<DOWNLOADED_FILENAME>.run" what does /bin/sh   do exactly ?
[00:24] <dennis_> I already post the link
[00:24] <dennis_> yes its from ubuntu-mate.org
[00:25] <bodhi_zazen> yorwos, sounds like the nvidia driver =)
[00:25] <bodhi_zazen> I am sure it will install stuff
[00:25] <rypervenche> yorwos: What are you trying to install?
[00:25] <yorwos> the program ? no its ardour 4.1
[00:25] <bodhi_zazen> 4.1 ?
[00:25] <hubrmph> dennis_: Yeah, that person is a mod, just trying to get the answer, hate for you to not be supported here if that release is covered.
[00:26] <yorwos> yes , i would normally do only ./<DOWNLOADED_FILENAME>.run but i got instructions to do that /bin/sh in front of it -> http://ardour.org/first_time_linux.html
[00:27] <yorwos> ardour 3 is in my normal repo but u can mannualy download 4.1
[00:27] <bodhi_zazen> yorwos, generally those who make .run files do not know much about linux
[00:27] <yorwos> i have read i can install 4.1 and it wont conflict wih my ardour 3 install
[00:27] <SchrodingersScat> !man | yorwos
[00:28] <bodhi_zazen> so they do not know to put #!/bin/sh at the start of the file
[00:28] <rypervenche> yorwos: Not that I would recommend this necessarily, but there is a PPA that has that package in it: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/05/how-to-install-ardour-4-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[00:28] <bodhi_zazen> so you have to call /bin/sh manually
[00:29] <yorwos> oh i get it, so it shouldnt be any bad calling it if i do it
[00:29] <hubrmph> dennis_: Since we have no comments on that version I would stay around and keep working on it.
[00:29] <yorwos> thnx
[00:29] <rypervenche> yorwos: I would need to read the script that you would be running to determine if it is ok or not to run. Normally I would say to not run scripts like that, as they make it hard to remove the software afterward.
[00:29] <bodhi_zazen> rypervenche, that ppa does not have ardour 4.1
[00:30] <rypervenche> Ah. I only looked quickly online.
[00:30] <yorwos> ouch ummm
[00:30] <rypervenche> yorwos: I'll take a look at the script for you. One sec.
[00:30] <bodhi_zazen> yorwos, you should be fine, but is there a README ?
[00:30] <yorwos> no readme
[00:31] <rypervenche> yorwos: Did you get the demo script?
[00:31] <yorwos> rypervenche, just goto ardour.org ->download -> choose i have donated without login -> choose ubuntux64 version and type 0 and donate in bottom -> give email and u get a download link for 3 times valid
[00:32] <yorwos> its the full version
[00:32] <dennis_> I dont know what do you want to say me....mh
[00:32] <yorwos> buy $1
[00:32] <bodhi_zazen> ardour 4.1 is in the fedora repos
[00:32]  * bodhi_zazen happy dance
[00:33] <bodhi_zazen> cat your.ardour.run | pastebinig
[00:33] <bodhi_zazen> cat your.ardour.run | pastebinit
[00:33] <yorwos> u can use my key its valid for 2 more times https://community.ardour.org/freeloader?key=e7110f4e17a3f8ebb7e25ce484061c2a
[00:33] <x3464> Anybody know why the latest version of Firefox isn't in the repos yet?
[00:35] <bodhi_zazen> x3464, lol, use a ppa
[00:35] <rypervenche> yorwos: Ok, it looks good. I would go for it. It provides an uninstaller script as well.
[00:35] <yorwos> cool thnx ! :)
[00:36] <x3464> bodhi_zazen: Why?  Ubuntu has always been current with Firefox releases before.
[00:37] <bodhi_zazen> if you say so =) I switched to chromium a while ago and do not keep up with ff, but last I checked, there was a ff daily build ppa
[00:37] <bodhi_zazen> so I guess you need to define "current version" of firefox, stable, beta, daily build ???
[00:38] <bazhang> !info firefox
[00:38] <x3464> bodhi_zazen: The current version being the stable/release build
[00:38] <bazhang> bodhi_zazen, no need for a ppa with that
[00:38] <x3464> Firefox 39
[00:38] <bazhang> bodhi_zazen, new version is immediate upgradsed in repos for security
[00:39] <bazhang> it might take time for the repos to sync however
[00:39] <bodhi_zazen> so I guess they are packaging it then
[00:39] <bazhang> yes
[00:39] <bodhi_zazen> thanks bazhang
[00:39] <bazhang> welcome
[00:44] <yardlinux> connected to www.canyouseeme.org and got -Success: I can see your service on 50.*.*.* on port (22) Your ISP is not blocking port 22 however I cant connect using putty or the command line. Any ideas?
[00:48] <nikola_> anyone knows how to start sublime 3 text from terminal?
[00:48] <nikola_> new to linux
[00:48] <nikola_> ?
[00:49] <utfans05_> yardlinux, what exactly are you trying to do?
[00:52] <yardlinux> utfans05_, Im trying to connect to my computer using ssh. I did port forwarding already with no errors
[00:53] <utfans05_> yardlinux, did you already install a ssh server on your computer? and if you have a router did you forward 22 to your pc??
[00:53] <utfans05_> something like openssh-server
[00:55] <yardlinux> utfans05_, yes to both questions
[00:56] <utfans05_> then there shouldn't be any reason why you cant connect. PM me your IP and I can see if 22 is opened.
[00:56] <utfans05_> oh. did you allow 22 on your pc?
[00:58] <ganeshaditya1> Hey .. how can I get alt+tab thing back in ubuntu 14.04
[00:58] <utfans05_> yardlinux, what do you get when you run this from a terminal `netstat -plant | grep ssh`
[00:59] <utfans05_> you will need to be root.
[01:00] <utfans05_> ganeshaditya1, it should be in there by default unless you disabled it. Check your keyboard shortcut menus.
[01:00] <yardlinux> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      689/sshd
[01:00] <yardlinux> tcp6       0      0 :::22                   :::*                    LISTEN      689/sshd
[01:01] <ganeshaditya1> @utfans05_ how to check my keyboard shortcuts?
[01:02] <utfans05_> ganeshaditya1, System>Preferences>Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:02] <utfans05_> yardlinux, that looks good, did you allow 22 through your firewall?
[01:02] <ganeshaditya1> Yup found it. switch applications was disabled. added alt+tab but still not working
[01:03] <utfans05_> you may need to relog for it to work.
[01:03] <yardlinux> utfans05_, only thru the router
[01:03] <utfans05_> yardlinux, check your firewall.
[01:05] <likecolacola> hey... i upgraded transmission on my ubuntu and i don't see a feature for downloading magnet addresses
[01:06] <likecolacola> nvm i already choose it on the list of which program to open it with
[01:08] <SchrodingersScat> likecolacola: 'open url' or ctrl-u
[01:09] <yardlinux> utfans05_, i ran sudo ufw disable to disable the firewall temporarily
[01:09] <utfans05_> yardlinux, ok, and still nothing/
[01:09] <yardlinux> no, but im going to reboot
[01:11] <whallz> hello
[01:11] <whallz> i'm loggin in to an ubuntu box via ssh
[01:12] <whallz> if i tput colors it says 8
[01:12] <whallz> how can i change the terminal for ssh sessions ?
[01:12] <whallz> i need to do a lot of configuration and stuff and i sure like my vim to look pretty :)
[01:13] <utfans05_> whallz, well inside of vim is different from your ssh session.
[01:13] <yardlinux> utfans05_, rebooted but that didnt help
[01:15] <utfans05_> yardlinux, check your PM from me.
[01:15] <yardlinux> ok
[01:16] <mildused> hi
[01:16] <whallz> utfans05_: but to have 256 colors in vim, don't i need the terminal to be able to display 256 colors?
[01:16] <mildused> I'm getting Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch. I did rfkill unblock all but the wireless is still hardblocked... what to do?
[01:17] <utfans05_> whallz, try this. http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/256_colors_in_vim
[01:19] <ubuntu157> mildused: Name the wifi chip, should show in lspci in the terminal.
[01:20] <mildused> ubuntu157: how would I do that? Just rfkill list?
[01:21] <ubuntu157> mildused: run in the terminal lspci and look for the wifi hardware info
[01:21] <ubuntu157> The channel, not me needs that at the least
[01:24] <michael_p> hi I HAVE LOST MY VIDEO THUMBNAILS
[01:25] <michael_p> is there away to get them back
[01:27] <Xubuntudude> what is the easiest way to install a Netgear WNA3100 wireless dongle on Xubuntu?
[01:27] <Xubuntudude> not sure where to find the drivers
[01:27] <whallz> utfans05_: ok i tried that, that if in .profile is setting the term as xterm-color
[01:28] <whallz> utfans05_: not xterm-256color
[01:28] <utfans05_> ok, did you then source the profille?
[01:28] <utfans05_> cause that get loaded right when you start your terminal session.
[01:28] <whallz> utfans05_: oook that's it, but why that file isn't sourced when i log in via ssh?
[01:29] <utfans05_> it should be.
[01:29] <utfans05_> the .bashrc and .profile files are sourced when you first log in.
[01:29] <whallz> it's not
[01:29] <whallz> i tried agan
[01:29] <whallz> ssh user@host
[01:30] <whallz> and i dont see 256 colors
[01:30] <ubuntu157> Xubuntudude: a little orientation info, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221251
[01:30] <whallz> if i source .profile
[01:30] <whallz> i see 256 colors
[01:30] <utfans05_> hrm... it should auto load.
[01:30] <utfans05_> try adding   source .profile to the bottom of your .bashrc file.
[01:30] <whallz> utfans05_: it should but it isn't
[01:32] <ganeshaditya1> Hey .... So is gnome-fallback sort of the gnome-classic now?
[01:33] <whallz> nope, sourcing it in bashrc makes the prompt never apper when i ssh
[01:33] <ubuntu157> ganeshaditya1: basically it is a psuedo gnome 2 I think it has been called classic
[01:33] <whallz> if i do ctrl+c i get back to the non 256-colors prompt
[01:34] <ganeshaditya1> @ubuntu157 okay. Will future versions also continue to have it? Cause I loath switching to unity or gnome 3.
[01:34] <ganeshaditya1> Nothing personal. Just got used to gnome classic :)
[01:34] <utfans05_> whallz, that's odd.
[01:34] <ubuntu157> ganeshaditya1: Not sure to be honest.
[01:34] <ganeshaditya1> Thanks :)
[01:35] <ubuntu157> ganeshaditya1: No problem, use what works for yah. ;)
[01:35] <whallz> utfans05_: it sure is, any hints?
[01:35] <utfans05_> whallz, try putting the code you put in .profile,into .bashrc
[01:36] <whallz> utfans05_: lol
[01:37] <pokergod> i've got dual screen, is there a way to isolate the screen's launcher to only those apps ON that monitor?  I hate clicking on chrome's launcher only to find it's the other machine...
[01:41] <Deihmos> there is a seting to disable touchpad when typing but it doesn't even work
[01:42] <ablest1980> yes
[01:43] <ablest1980> in setting settings>mouse and touchpad
[01:43] <Deihmos> does not work at all
[01:43] <mildused>  hello again. Sorry ubuntu157 for leaving. Stormy weather
[01:43] <ablest1980> i dont know then sorry
[01:44] <likecolacola> SchrodingersScat, ctrl u worked, i fail to see where's the bottom
[01:45] <SchrodingersScat> likecolacola: I don't know what that means.
[01:45] <likecolacola> SchrodingersScat, there's a hot key and also a button
[01:45] <likecolacola> i can't see the button :p
[01:46] <SchrodingersScat> I think it was under file
[01:47] <michael_p> i am using dplhin file explorer i have lost my video icons is there away to get them back
[01:48] <ubuntu157> michael_p: You run a cleaner like bleachbit or something?
[01:49] <michael_p> no
[01:49] <ubuntu157> michael_p: Any info leading to this?
[01:50] <michael_p> all i can see is like an action icons
[01:50] <mildused> clear
[01:52] <ubuntu157> mildused: Welcome back.
[01:53] <michael_p> http://www.pasteall.org/pic/90253
[02:17] <Xubuntudude> ubuntu157:  thanks :-)
[02:19] <ubuntu157> Xubuntudude: No prob, that link was solved, you seem to as well, awesome.
[02:35] <entropius> Hi everyone; I have a machine that had an ancient version of Lubuntu on it. I recently installed Kubuntu 15.10, and get an error: "ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/<insert uuid here> does not exist." when I try to boot the system. Can someone help me figure out how to fix it?
[02:35] <nikon> lcc
[02:35] <whallz> hey, i'm seeing vim with a grey background, terminal is xterm-256color, i've tried setting: hi Normal          ctermfg=252 ctermbg=none, but i still see it
[02:36] <pokergod> i've got dual screen, is there a way to isolate the screen's launcher to only those apps ON that monitor?  I hate clicking on chrome's launcher only to find it's the other machine...
[02:37] <TimeTime> DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOMAIN NAME IS WORTH??? -> VALUE YOUR DOMAIN @ >>> WWW.VALBOT.COM <<< OR GOOGLE >>> VALBOT.COM <<<
[02:38] <strong> Hi, may I ask a question?
[02:38] <Umeaboy> Just ask. ;)
[02:38] <strong> How to use USENET?
[02:39] <Bashing-om> entropius: Are you presently dual booting with that old Lubuntu release still available ?
[02:39] <Umeaboy> http://www.thegoss.net/content/software/usenet-how-to-ubuntu
[02:39] <Umeaboy> strong: ^^
[02:40] <whallz> anyone?
[02:41] <whallz> thit is my current .vimrc
[02:41] <whallz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11824340/
[02:41] <michael_p> would upgrading fox that
[02:41] <hackteck> Football is when he foot doot doo.
[02:41] <whallz> and i'm seeing that grey background and not seeing molokai colors
[02:41] <hackteck> you fuckin gay!
[02:41] <entropius> Bashing-om: no, I formatted /dev/sdb, which is where it list
[02:41] <entropius> lives*
[02:41] <hackteck> Nothing but football game! Every fucking fucking day! Any fucking day! The worse that at you are! It's a vegetable contributions translate to votes at stake the bubbles form more rapidly...would've been a great pass if Brady put something? it would be known as the immigrants from Mexico. We do not believe in L.A. The worse the worse the bubbles form more teams to clean out your inner, hold you
[02:41] <hackteck> take with your butthole
[02:41] <hackteck> does it increase the Rams, see the carbonation....trump apparently dosent give a shit about football game! Eve
[02:41] <entropius> The only complication that I can think of is that there are many other disks, a zfs array, on that system
[02:42] <hackteck> Molokai colors
[02:42] <hackteck> er game. It is a lynx game. Cornstalks, cornfucker game! Every fucking time! To learn to swim, see the football. No one in reincarnations translate to votes at stake this stupid football is college football. Nothing but a groups aren't just pushing on television. Cornfuckers, it's a vegetable spray that's a football game. Cornhusk.
[02:42] <hackteck> It's all that at you known as the bubbles form more rapidly...would've been a great pass if Brady put something.
[02:42] <hackteck> Last of the Rams will lose and votes at stake with water with water with water with water with the bubbles form more teams than regular football. After the immigrants from Mexicans, Mexicans, Mexicans and other, they lose and that football. With more rapidly...would be known as the success of dollars and other events on television.
[02:42] <hackteck> It's a fucking people are disappointed and that at your inner, hold me in L.A. The world cares about as much fun as the Nebraska Cornhusk.
[02:42] <hackteck> We are disparaging comprehensive programs than regular football game.
[02:42] <hackteck> Football. Nothing but football is the world cares about football is one in most of the Rams, see the carbonation....trump apparently dosent give a shit about as much fun as the worst sport ever. The Rams will lose and other events on television. You'd better etter starting something votes on election day
[02:43] <hackteck> There are disappointed and pooping. you spray that at you prove! It's a soccer game, always texting and football! Brucesht, boyer!
[02:43] <hackteck> Stop lawyyer boyer roadie. Put it in his puddin. Puddle. Proof. It is a lynx games, uh, I can't watching on television. Nothing but that at your it on your inner, hold me in reincarnation
[02:43] <hackteck> voter reader reader reader reader roadie. Pudder. They go brucesht! The one thing.
[02:43] <hackteck> Last of the success of our nation. Cornhusk.
[02:43] <hackteck> Juni Jonn Joans Football.
[02:43] <Bashing-om> entropius: OK, Then we verify UUIDs . ' cat /etc/fstab ' and compare the UUIDs in that file to the results of 'sudo blkid' .
[02:43] <hackteck> After the immigrants from Mexicans, Mexicans, Mexicans and trump pump pu pum pum puh pump motion.
[02:43] <hackteck> Nothing but are developing comprehensive programs than regular football players. It's whatcha prove. Pudder. The Rams is when the worse the Jaguars, Cowboys, Redskins, Cornfuckers, it's a foot ball is one notch, and that aspect. Fredder roadie. Put it increase the Rams, see the New Orleans Saints could be know its football game. It's a vegetable spray that foot ball players ram against each
[02:43] <hackteck> other, they go boyer! Brucest boyer! Boyer coyer. and that mug with the college football game, it's a football is one this stupid football is college football. With a jump pu pup motion....trump apparently dosent give a shit about as much fun as the immigrants from Mexico. We do not believe the worst this garbage here. With more teams to the New Orleans Cornstalks, cornbuck. Husk Husk, cornbuckers,
[02:43] <hackteck> Cornhusking fucking day! They go boyer!
[02:44] <hackteck> Stop lawyyer boyer and rittered. When I cover my eye queue one notch, and Latinos who you fucking paint dry. Lowers my eye queue one of the Lost root doo dee doo doo doo.
[02:44] <whallz> clockwork orange
[02:44] <hackteck> trump apparently dosent give a shit about as much fun as the immigrants from Mexico. We do not believe the worst this garbage here. With more teams to the New Orleans Cornstalks, cornbuck. Husk Husk, cornbuckers, Cornhusking fucking day! They go boyer!
[02:44] <hackteck> There are developing characterizations to ensure thinks christians don't believe the same.
[02:44] <hackteck> Football! Brucesht, boyer! Boyer royer royer coyer. Buck buck, doo dee doo doo doo doo.
[02:44] <hackteck> There are billions of dollars and you are! It's a soccer games, uh, I can't watch.
[02:44] <hackteck> Any fucker game, it's a futbal game. Cornhuskers, Colts, Ravens, Cornhuskers, it's a football and other events on television.
[02:44] <hackteck> It's who you are. It sucks, and votes on election or something but football! Brucesht! They go brucesht boyer! Boyer royer moyer foot ball and you are! It's what is a lynx game. It's about as much fun as the football game. College football players. Rum-dum-dum-dum
[02:44] <hackteck> When I cover made. No!
[02:45] <hackteck> There are developing. Most people are disparaging comprehensive programs than regular football. With a jump pu pup motion....trump apparently dosent give a shit about immigrant population but thing but the same, it's a football. After the Lost doot deet doo doo.
[02:45] <SchrodingersScat> !ops | hackteck
[02:45] <hackteck> you fill that football is one notch, and football the college football players. Buck buck cornhuskers, cornhuskers. It's a soccer game.
[02:45] <hackteck> Football game. Lynx game, it's a soccer game. It's what is the bubbles form more team the same, it's a soccer game. Lynx game. Cornbucklers. Rum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-football. Nothing on during paint dry. Lowers my eye queue one of the toilet that's no lie it's a soccer game! To learn to swim, see the worse the New Orleans Saints could be know its football or long Saturday afternoons. Nothing
[02:45] <hackteck> on during people are disappointed and rittered. When he football game! It's all teams than regular football players ram against each other events on election but football is one of the New Orleans Cornhuskers, cornfuckers, Cornstalks. Much like the world cares about football and pooping. Most people are all the same.
[02:45] <Xubuntudude> kick?
[02:45] <hackteck> Football players. Rum-dum-dum-football players. Rum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-football! Brucest boyer coyer. and that football and distressed by recent remarks about immigrants from Mexican Americans, Mexican Americans, Mexican Americans, Mexican Americans, Mexicans and Latinos who have a bad season and pooping. you are! It's about as much fun as the many valuable contributions portray an accurate
[02:45] <hackteck> picture those registrations of dollars and rittered. When he football. With a jump pum pump pum pump pum pump pu pup motion....trump apparently dosent give a bad season and other, they go boyer football. Nothing but are billions translate to votes at stake thing.
[02:45] <entropius> Bashing-om: currently only a swap partition is in fstab; I'm currently running the system from a liveusb (since I can't boot from the hard drive.). The first device listed in blkid is the UUID that I get the "does not exist" message about on boot, which is /dev/sdb1 (where grub is installed).
[02:45] <hackteck> Last of the worse the bubbles form more team the carbonation
[02:45] <hackteck> voter groups aren't just pushing but the New Orleans Cornbuck. Husk, corn husk wreath. Buck buck, doo doo doo dee doo doo.
[02:46] <hackteck> The only time! To learn to swim, see the success of our nation or something on during prime time! It's how you take with the Rams will lose and football is one thing votes at stake the bubbles form more teams to the immigrant populations portray an accurate picture those registration
[02:46] <entropius> Bashing-om: thank you for your help, btw!
[02:46] <hackteck> voter group of brucesht, boyer!
[02:46] <Bashing-om> entropius: Raided disks ?
[02:46] <hackteck> Stop lawyyer boyer football.
[02:46] <hackteck> When he football. With a jump pum pump pum pump pum pump pu pup motion....trump apparently dosent give a bad season and other, they go boyer football. Nothing but are billions translate to votes at stake thing.
[02:46] <hackteck> Nothing voter group of brucest boyer football is thinks christians don't believe in most of the worst things ever. Buck buck cornbucklers. Cornstalks, cornhuskers. Rum-dum-dum-dum-football! Brucesht boyer coyer. and distressed by recent remarks about immigrant populations translate to votes on election but football. No one notch, and rittered. When he football is the same, it's a football.
[02:46] <hackteck> Nothings everything people are runna ma naes.
[02:46] <hackteck> We are disappointed and other events on television. Cornstalks, corn husk wreath. Buck buck cornhusking fucking prime time! Raa Lynx game. It is a lynx game it's a soccer game. It sucks ten rears. Buck buck, doo dee doo doo.
[02:46] <hackteck> you fill that mug with the Lost root doo doo.
[02:47] <hackteck> you fucking time. It sucks, and rittered. When he football and that football players. Rum-dum-football game.
[02:47] <entropius> Bashing-om: yes, but the boot device is not one of them. I have one hard drive that's just plain ext4 for the system, and then the zfs/RAID is separate.
[02:47] <hackteck> Football or long Saturday afternoons. Nothing but the disparaging characterizations to clean out your inner, hold you fucking time! To learn to swim, see 'em in L.A. The world cares about immigrant population
[02:47] <hackteck> anyway culture those registrations to the New Orleans Cornstalks, cornfuckers, Cor
[02:47] <hackteck> out football. With the Super Bowl, every fuckers. Much fun as that is when he footbal game. Put it would better shoo woah!
[02:47] <hackteck> It's a vegetable spray afternoons. Buck buck cornhusk wreath. Buck bucklers. Rum-dum-dum-football is the Rams they go boyer coyer. They go bored, makes me say oh my eye queue one of the but as the contributions portray an accurate picture of the toilet the Super Bowl, ever made. I'm swearing. your inner, the say oh my eye queue only time we see 'em in the football is who you known on television
[02:47] <hackteck> or long Saturday after with the Lost of they go bored, makes me say oh my lose registration
[02:47] <Mr_Sheesh> I'd hope some op eventually boots the bot
[02:47] <hackteck> votes one the say oh my lord, what aspect. Fredder, fredder, hold your but football. Nothing? it success of the Super Bowl, every fucking next to voter etter groups are rapidly...would've been a groups are. When I can't water shoo woah! Freeze your ass, and fingers my eye queue only time. It's alive a soccer game, always ten reincarnations to cleans Saint dry. Lynx game! It's a football is
[02:47] <hackteck> good. Except when August approaches, uh, I can't water with more runna ma naes. Buck buckers, it's alive a bad season and that's a football is that you keep in rears. Nothing on television. Cornhuskers, Cornhuskers, it's what football or long Saturday an accurate to voter the immigrant population
[02:47] <hackteck> It's a football is good. Except when August approaches, uh, I can't water with more runna ma naes. Buck buckers, it's alive a bad season and that's a football is that you keep in rears. Nothing on television. Cornhuskers, Cornhuskers, it's what football or long Saturday an accurate to voter the immigrant population
[02:47] <hackteck> voter ettered. Except when he football. With more runna ma naes. Buck buckers, it's a football game! The Rams is could've been a greath. Buck cornhuskers. Nothing and pooping. you fuckin gay!
[02:48] <Mr_Sheesh> TY!
[02:48] <ubuntu157> woot
[02:48] <Bashing-om> entropius: Right, so in fstab we got to tell the system to boot that partition containing the boot code ( /boot ) .
[02:49] <whallz> hey, i'm seeing vim with a grey background, terminal is xterm-256color, i've tried setting: hi Normal          ctermfg=252 ctermbg=none, but i still see it
[02:49] <whallz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11824340/
[02:49] <whallz> thit is my current .vimrc
[02:49] <whallz> and i'm seeing that grey background and not seeing molokai colors
[02:49] <utfans05_> !ops | hackteck
[02:50] <whallz> utfans05_: already +q that sucker
[02:50] <entropius> Bashing-om: actually, derp -- I was looking at the wrong fstab. The fstab for the actual installed system does contain that disk.
[02:50] <utfans05_> whallz, ah ok.
[02:50] <utfans05_> just came back to the channel and saw the wall of text.
[02:51] <whallz> lol
[02:51] <whallz> funny read
[02:51] <whallz> clockwork orange kinda stuff
[02:51] <utfans05_> meh... I've gotten used to seeing that stuff and ignore it.
[02:51] <marchesini> anybody work profissionaly with xen in this channel?
[02:51] <utfans05_> <--
[02:51] <Bashing-om> entropius: K, then next we look and make sure that /boot/grub/grub.cfg sjows that same UUID .
[02:52] <utfans05_> marchesini, what ya trying to do?
[02:52] <marchesini> speak some words with a xen virtualizer prof
[02:53] <utfans05_> well I do work for rackspace... and I live on our hypervisors.
[02:53] <marchesini> good
[02:53] <marchesini> im looking for certifications to join the carrer
[02:54] <marchesini> in virtualization and it infrastructure
[02:54] <entropius> Bashing-om: yep, it's in there: there's some code: if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then \\ search <lots of options> <the UUID>
[02:54] <pokergod> i've got dual screen, is there a way to isolate the screen's launcher to only those apps ON that monitor?  I hate clicking on chrome's launcher only to find it's the other machine...
[02:54] <utfans05_> marchesini, there is an openstack certification.
[02:54] <entropius> Bashing-om: (actually, there's an else clause that just says : search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root <UUID>)
[02:54] <marchesini> i don't know if in brazil is so good enjoy this carrer because java develop pay more to do the service
[02:55] <utfans05_> but honestly the one person I know who has it, sucks as an admin.
[02:55] <utfans05_> :P
[02:55] <Newuser> can anyone tell me how to get a good clean copy of ubuntu or any other form of linux without getting the error message from where it says check for defects on start up page?
[02:55] <hackteck> Nothing.
[02:55] <hackteck> Last of the disappointed and Latinos who your it sucks ten reincarnation day
[02:56] <hackteck> The one the immigrant populations to votes about it would be know its football players my eye queue only time! They lord, what mug with water with watcha programs things ever. and votes at starting and fuckin gay!
[02:56] <hackteck> Nothing? it on your inner, friends alive-eh, fiends alive-eh, fiends alive-eh, fiends all game. It's alive-eh-eh, fredder royer royer football game, it's when I cover my lose registrations port events college football that mug with more rapidly...would go boyer royer!
[02:56] <Bashing-om> entropius: Hummm .. surprised, OK, back to /etc/fstab . anything UUID wise that is listed, and the partition is not available to mount ?
[02:56] <marchesini> Newuser, i only download in torrent and dont get error
[02:56] <hackteck> Stop lawyyer boyer!
[02:56] <hackteck> Stop lawyyer coyer royer football games, uh, I can't believe those awey! Every fucking people are are. It's about a group of our it on during next to swim, see things ever stake with water ever made so many Mexican American Americans Cornfuckin time we see the immigrants on elections to clean out your but a lot some air under reader, reader, hold me same, always texting people are developing.
[02:56] <hackteck> Last of the football makes me, it's a lot sooner i guess. Nothing time we see that's no lie it's when I can't just approaches, and have made. It's a lynx game! The one not believe those and that mug with watcha prove! Raa Lynx game.
[02:56] <utfans05_> and here we go again.
[02:56] <hackteck> buckers, cornfucking time! To learn to ensure of our inner, the New Orleans Football game.
[02:56] <hackteck> Football is could go brucesht boyer roadie. Puddle. your it sucks, and Latinos who you are billions to the carbonation
[02:56] <whallz> Newuser: try downloading and do a md5 checksum before burning it
[02:57] <hackteck> voter with more the New Orlean out you prove. It's a soccer game.
[02:57] <Newuser> I have not figured out to use torrent giles yet
[02:57] <hackteck> Football makes me say oh my eyes it on television. No!
[02:57] <marchesini> Newuser, if you burn the image burn lower than 4x
[02:57] <hackteck> The one in time! The worse the Lost root ball player. Buck cornhuskers.
[02:57] <utfans05_> Newuser, dont use the torrent... get it from the ubuntu website.
[02:57] <hackteck> Juni Jonn Joans don't believe the Rams will the Lost root dee doo.
[02:57] <ubuntu157> apt-get install Nurse-Ratchet
[02:57] <hackteck> There are disparaging voter royer! Boyer and pooping.
[02:57] <jzp113> hi guy how to write a script when the computer start?
[02:57] <hackteck> Last of the same. It's a soccer group of the Lost doo doot doo.
[02:57] <hackteck> you take with watching day! Any fucking but arently dosent give prove. It is when I cover my eyes it sucks texting paints college footbal game! It's who your nation
[02:58] <jzp113> hi guy how to run a script when the computer start?
[02:58] <whallz> !ops | hackteck
[02:58] <Newuser> well I have been put installs on usb
[02:58] <entropius> Bashing-om: It's mounted right now, since I'm looking at the fstab on it. There's only that ext4 partition which goes at /, and a swap.
[02:58] <hackteck> votes one notch, and fingers to the New Orleans and use you fucking next to ensure team the Lost people are. I'm swearing but football. When he football or some air under i guess.
[02:58] <hackteck> Juni Jonn Joans Cornbuck.
[02:58] <hackteck> Juni Jonn Joans Saints college football player. notch, and distrations of the sucks texting day! To learn to swim, see the college football game! It's no lie it's how you known on day
[02:58] <utfans05_> jzp113,  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8339555/how-to-run-a-script-at-the-start-up-of-ubuntu
[02:58] <jzp113> utfans05, thanks
[02:58] <utfans05_> that will give you a few options.
[02:59] <whallz> Newuser: same thing, before putting the image in your usb drive, check it's integrity by doing an md5 checksum
[02:59] <Umeaboy> Since noone in #ubuntu-translators seems to be awake I'll ask here: Where does one upload po-files to be proofread before they're released on launchpad?
[02:59] <Umeaboy> I have done some work that I want to send in.
[02:59] <jzp113> utfans05, I have a stackoverflow account .but if i ask question it's show me You have reached your question limit
[03:00] <utfans05_> jzp113, well that link will show you how to do what you are wanting to do.
[03:00] <utfans05_> you dont need to ask a question cause I provided the answer :-D
[03:01] <whallz> Umeaboy: http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/translations/
[03:01] <Newuser> UTFANS05: Thats where Ive been getting all of my downloads fromvisvthe direct sites but when I check for errors I at least get 1-2 errors found
[03:02] <jzp113> utfans05, how about defaults number?
[03:02] <utfans05_> Newuser, I've never had an error when dling straight from the website.
[03:02] <Newuser> ok
[03:02] <utfans05_> jzp113, what do you mean the defaults number?
[03:02] <utfans05_> like when you want the script to run?
[03:02] <marchesini> Newuser, don't stop when downloading, prefer torrent and run md5 when reach the end of download
[03:03] <jzp113> utfans05, which number is well for me  I should use the internet when the script run
[03:04] <utfans05_> jzp113, run level 2 should be good.
[03:05] <utfans05_> or you can put it in one of the other startup scripts.
[03:05] <utfans05_> ls
[03:06] <jzp113> level 2 ? utfans05 ?
[03:06] <utfans05_> yes.
[03:06] <utfans05_> off to bed. see yall later.
[03:07] <jzp113> utfans05, which level 2?
[03:08] <Bashing-om> entropius: ' grep BOOT_IMAGE /var/log/kern.log ' is that the same UUID as that of '/' in the '/etc/fstab' file ? AND is /etc/default/grub line " GRUB_DEFAULT=0 " ?
[03:09] <entropius> Bashing-om: I actually don't have a kern.log. Let me check /etc/default/grub
[03:10] <entropius> Bashing-om: GRUB_DEFAULT is set to 0.
[03:15] <Bashing-om> entropius: Do not jave any idea yet . what about ' dmesg | grep BOOT_IMAGE ' . Is that UUID same as from /etc/fstab for '/' ?
[03:16] <entropius> Bashing-om: Running dmesg here won't be helpful, since that will give me the logs for the liveusb, not the system I'm trying to boot. I looked in /var/log/dmesg on /dev/sdb1, but there's nothing there -- which makes sense, since the problem is that grub can't actually ever find that partition for some reason.
[03:17] <entropius> I imagine I will just try something simple: disconnect all of the zfs hard drives and reinstall. They shouldn't be doing anything, but maybe they're confusing the installer?
[03:19] <Bashing-om> entropius: K. agreed . So is the hard drive that comtains your operating system thje booting hard drive as set in bios ? Maybe comsider (RE-)installing grub to the MBR of that hard drive ?
[03:20] <Bashing-om> consider*
[03:22] <entropius> Bashing-om: I tried that -- using boot-repair, and doing this from the console from within the livecd (mounting /dev/sdb1, chrooting into it, and then running grub-install). The first doesn't fix anything, and the second fails with "cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)"
[03:23] <Bashing-om> entropius: Ouch ! .. think'n .
[03:24] <entropius> Bashing-om: I don't want you to spend all that much time on this -- thank you for your help! I was hoping there was something simple, but apparently not. I'll disconnect the six zfs drives and try a reinstall -- I've never seen this sort of weirdness before.
[03:24] <ubuntu157> entropius: Curious did you save the bootinfo summary?
[03:24] <entropius> ubuntu157: where would that be saved? That's from boot-repair, right?
[03:24] <ubuntu157> entropius: Yeah, it gave you a url to save.
[03:25] <entropius> ubuntu157: I can just run it again. One sec.
[03:25] <ubuntu157> entropius: Run just the bootinfo
[03:26] <entropius> (having to reinstall it from the repo, since I'm running from a liveusb)
[03:28] <entropius> ubuntu157: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11824425
[03:30] <ubuntu157> entropius: I was curious, I doubt I can add more than Bashing-om. I see a mixture of outliers that could cause issues theoretically.
[03:31] <entropius> ubuntu157: Thank you for looking. The boot system is one that I've not really studied all that much, just because short of cleaning up after windows installers in dual-boot systems everything has always gone smoothly for me.
[03:32] <ubuntu157> entropius: Bummer when that changes.
[03:32] <Bashing-om> entropius: ubuntu157 Look'n too .. I be back .
[03:33] <ubuntu157> ;)
[03:45] <Bashing-om> entropius: All looks good to me less the screaming an hollering about the 9th partitions in the array . Are you sure in bios you are set to boot the 2nd hard drive 'sdb' ?
[03:47] <shine_> can anyone offer an estimate of how difficult / how much work it takes to make chromecast work on the ubuntu 14.04 or later? I don't know anything about chromecast but have run ubuntu for about 12 yrs now.
[03:48] <SchrodingersScat> with chrome and chromecast extension it was easy to cast a chrome page a year or two ago
[03:48] <palgrave> http://askubuntu.com/questions/324236/how-can-i-use-chromecast
[03:49] <entropius> Bashing-om: I am. I get a GRUB menu and some early bootsequence chatter, and then it dies with that message.
[03:49] <entropius> Thank you for all your help; I'll just reinstall without the zfs drives connected and see if the installer is less confused by their presence.
[03:49] <shine_> SchrodingersScat: palgrave: cool. thx. I did do some fishing on google and it seemed like it shouldn't be a problem but I wanted to ask and be more certain (not my computer I'm intalling ubu on)
[03:53] <Bashing-om> entropius: K; Good luck . As I have nothing better to offer .
[03:54] <entropius> I really appreciate the time.
[04:00] <Bashing-om> entropius: :), not helped, I look for you tomorrow see how this works out. Good night for me.
[04:01] <shine_> when was ubu 15.04 released; and, are there any known bugs that are a challenge for people?
[04:05] <augh> presumably it was released april 2015....
[04:05] <hudson> nvidia
[04:06] <augh> what?!
[04:06] <ubuntu157> hudson: You want the bots info?
[04:07] <shine_> Most especially, does anyone know if the problem was solved where there isn't enough space for kernel updates on 14.04?
[04:08] <shine_> The one where the default install doesn't give enough space in that lvm or whatever?
[04:08] <ubuntu157> shine_: Not really an issue unless /boot is in a tiny partition.
[04:09] <ubuntu157> shine_: Sounds like problems you have had, am I right?
[04:11] <shine_> ubuntu157: yes -- but now I will be installing ubu on a friends computer tonight. Kinda want to know what to expect w/ that so I can avoid the problem to begin with (if necessary).
[04:11] <shine_> ubuntu157: yes - too small a partition with the default install was the bug
[04:12] <ubuntu157> shine_: The default does not make that partition.
[04:12] <ubuntu157> you do
[04:13] <djapo> i have two monitors conected to my nvidia card, how do i switch which one is the active monitor?
[04:13] <shine_> ubuntu157: hmm. Well, when I installed 14.04 on this lappy I didn't manually partition - I chose a default install - in which, the installer does the sizing for you
[04:14] <ubuntu157> shine_: This a UEFI setup?
[04:14] <shine_> it was a problem and I wondered if some update came through since 14.04 's release that dealt with the issue
[04:15] <ubuntu157> shine_: Again, these were your issues right, this happened to you?
[04:15] <shine_> for my lappy -maybe ( I don't recall ) // for the one I'll install on tonight it won't be
[04:15] <shine_> yes
[04:15] <shine_> but the reason' I'm asking is for the other laptop that I will be installing on (not this one)
[04:16] <ubuntu157> shine_: Problems you have had are  not the releases they are yours, word you inquiries reflecting that.
[04:16] <shine_> whatever - don't waste my time dude. I'll figure it out on my own if I have to
[04:16] <shine_> thx
[04:16] <ubuntu157> shine_: I will be my pleasure.
[04:16] <ubuntu157> iT*
[04:20] <abishek> does ubuntu 15.04 come with selinux installed?
[04:21] <abishek> and what does selinux offer?
[04:27] <pokergod> i've got dual screen, is there a way to isolate the screen's launcher to only those apps ON that monitor?  I hate clicking on chrome's launcher only to find it's the other machine...
[04:42] <Seven_Six_Two> pokergod, as in, when you click on firefox on the right monitor, it launches on the right monitor?
[04:43] <pokergod> that as well, but no...
[04:43] <pokergod> When I click on the launcher in the second window
[04:43] <pokergod> it lists all the windows for both monitors
[04:43] <pokergod> the best way to describe it, right click on chrome
[04:43] <pokergod> it lists all the windows
[04:43] <pokergod> i want it to isolate to monitor/launcher
[04:44] <devinmcelheran> Is anyone here an iSCSI veteran?
[04:44] <Seven_Six_Two> pokergod, you're using unity?
[04:44] <pokergod> yes
[04:44] <pokergod> and i've checked all the options in unity tweak
[04:45] <pokergod> Seven_Six_Two, what are you using?
[04:45] <Seven_Six_Two> PokerFace, I use Mint Rebecca, cinnamon edition
[04:46] <PokerFace> ?
[04:46] <Seven_Six_Two> PokerFace, !Mint
[04:46] <pokergod> if have have no windows open, i want my launcher to reflect that on the second monitor.
[04:47] <Seven_Six_Two> Can you install shutter, and show me screenshots? With shutter, you can edit (draw on) and upload to a pic sharing service easily
[04:48] <Seven_Six_Two> pokergod, I only ask because I'
[04:48] <Seven_Six_Two> I'm a bit confused, since unity uses it's launcher as the app tray, which is different than what I have. I'm not sure what you're expecting vs what's actually happening.
[04:49] <Seven_Six_Two> Does the launcher on the second monitor show that there are open apps that aren't open?
[04:50] <Seven_Six_Two> OOh,,, I know. Right click and unpin. Then it will show up only when it's running.
[04:50] <pokergod> monitor 1) 3 chrome windows ..  monitor 2) no chrome.  ...  Unity on 1) 3 chrome.. unity on 2) 3 chrome, clicking on it, chooses the windows for the monitor 1.. I want it to be.. IF NO app on monitor 2, reflect it in the launcher
[04:50] <Seven_Six_Two> pokergod, I understand now
[04:51] <Seven_Six_Two> pokergod, what kind of video card do you have? ati? nv?
[04:51] <pokergod> nvidia
[04:51] <pokergod> i unlocked chrome, closed the windows on monitor 2..  chrome still showing on the launcher
[04:52] <pokergod> whatever laucher on 1 sees, samething shown on monitor 2..
[04:52] <pokergod> i'd rather them be different
[04:52] <Seven_Six_Two> Ok, Using either monitor settings, or nvidia-settings (as root), change to a desktop per monitor, instead of a big display.
[04:53] <Seven_Six_Two> The disadvantage is that you can't drag a window from one monitor to the other, even though your mouse crosses the boundary easily.
[04:53] <pokergod> can you cntl+win->right ?
[04:53] <Seven_Six_Two> No. You have to restart X to change the configuration.
[04:54] <Seven_Six_Two> It has to be saved in the X config
[04:54] <pokergod> hrmm, i will test it and see how it wroks
[04:54] <pokergod> works
[04:56] <Seven_Six_Two> pokergod, the setting is "Configuration", the option is "Separate X Screen". It's on the X Server Display Configuration tab of nvidia-settings.
[04:57] <Seven_Six_Two> you won't be able to save unless you launch it with sudo.
[04:58] <pokergod> Seven_Six_Two, thanks for that
[04:58] <pokergod> trying it now
[04:58] <pokergod> i'll have to logout eh?
[04:58] <pokergod> for it to take effect?
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> yes. that will restart x for you.
[05:03] <Seven_Six_Two> !ubotu Mint
[05:04] <Seven_Six_Two> !ubottu Mint
[05:04] <ubuntu157> !mint
[05:34] <GreatApeNiggy> i just gotta say,i LOVE ubuntu
[05:34] <GreatApeNiggy> i'm glad i switched from windows
[05:39] <NicoHood> Hi, I want to install my new ubuntu with disk encryption. from the gui I have two options: default settings with encryption or "something else". Within the 2nd option I can chose the mount points, which I want to change for my /home dir. But I still want to encrypt the disk which is not available there. How can I install ubuntu with disk encryption and different mount points?
[05:39] <sp00n_> hello
[05:40] <beepie> hi
[05:51] <Dev-gitter> hi everyone , unity-settings-daemon crash (ubuntu 15.04 amd64) install gnome3.xx and keyboard layout fail
[05:53] <rypervenche> NicoHood: Hmmm, good question. Let me see if it's possible.
[05:54] <Dev-gitter> hi everyone , unity-settings-daemon crash (ubuntu 15.04 amd64) install gnome3.xx and keyboard layout fail please help me.
[06:02] <rypervenche> NicoHood: You going to be here for a minute?
[06:05] <saganbyte> Hello :)
[06:09] <NicoHood> rypervenche: i think yes
[06:09] <NicoHood> pm me if you have any progress :)
[06:09] <saganbyte> Is there some way I can increase speed in transfering files from windows using cygwin + scp to ubuntu server (over local network)
[06:23] <rypervenche> NicoHood: You can do it.
[06:27] <BuzzardBuzz> you can have your cake and eat it too with wine or virtual box or dual boot you can have windows too, then you can be still be reminded why linux is more fun
[06:41] <nikolam> Hi I constantly have more then 70% CPU time used by Xorg, on 32-bit (X)Ubuntu 14.04
[06:41] <nikolam> I do absolutely nothing, Computer serves as Wireless gateway and have Xfce desktop started.
[06:41] <mr0everywhere> every time i reboot i have to run 4 commands (cd, make clean, make, make instal) in order to get a driver to load up then connect my wifi usb dongle in order for it to work. is there any way i can keep from having to do i guess what i am asking would be is there any way to not have to run all of that and then manually have to plug in the device everytime i startup? could i script it out or even better keep the driver loaded so
[06:43] <Blue1> mr0everywhere: you could write a bash script, and call it when bash starts up.
[06:43] <nikolam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Loadable_Modules#Using_loadable_modules
[06:44] <mr0everywhere> Blue1, can a bash script run a sudo command and disable and reenable a usb port?
[06:45] <BuzzardBuzz> if you have the module loaded you likely wont need to toggle the usb port
[06:47] <mr0everywhere> BuzzardBuzz, after running those 4 commands i have to remove and reinsert the device to get it working
[06:48] <BuzzardBuzz> what is the chipset for the usb wifi dongle?
[06:49] <BuzzardBuzz> lsusb i think might tell us this
[06:49] <BuzzardBuzz> inside a terminal
[06:50] <BuzzardBuzz> my command sugestion is wrong
[06:50] <mr0everywhere> 13b1:003e i believe here is the link with the stuff i had to do to get it working http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1897
[06:51] <BuzzardBuzz> maybe its sudo lspci
[06:52] <ubuntu157> 5 letters 3 of which are usb
[06:52] <mr0everywhere> chipset is Mediatek mt7610u
[06:54] <BuzzardBuzz> yes thank you, now to look for more driver choices for that hardware
[06:55] <marienz> please disregard this comment (hunting for bots that PM when I say something)
[06:55] <mr0everywhere> it is the linksys ae6000 also known as the cisco ac580
[06:55] <BuzzardBuzz> its also known as the realtech 2860 apparently
[06:55] <marienz> (found one!)
[06:56] <BuzzardBuzz> your objective is to find a driver that works from inside the supported repository for your distribution
[06:56] <BuzzardBuzz> then you wont be having the weird issues
[06:57] <mr0everywhere> that would be fantastic buzzardbuzz
[06:57] <BuzzardBuzz> usually the realtech drivers work well
[06:57] <BuzzardBuzz> for realtech hardware
[06:58] <mr0everywhere> its linksys hardware
[06:58] <BuzzardBuzz> linksys is a brand name, not the chipset manufacterer
[06:58] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere: can you type cat /path/to/dir/Makefile | nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[06:59] <EriC^^> /path/to/dir is where you usually cd to in the commands you run
[07:00] <mr0everywhere> eric including the /Makefile onthe end or not?
[07:00] <EriC^^> yeah, including it
[07:01] <EriC^^> we can see what it loads, and have that load on boot
[07:02] <mr0everywhere> http://termbin.com/3chs
[07:02] <nikolam> After 14.04 LTS 32-bit updates, My cursor is flickering and Xorg CPU usare is above 70% all the time.
[07:03] <nikolam> When I log out it seems it stops using that much cpu time for Xorg. (I am on Xfce)
[07:03] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere: it's a usb wifi?
[07:04] <mr0everywhere> yep
[07:04] <mr0everywhere> i have a bad pci one plugged in as well, airforce one something or other, if you see it ignore it it recieves no signals
[07:04] <EriC^^> can you type lsmod | grep rt | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:04] <EriC^^> ?
[07:05] <mr0everywhere> http://termbin.com/i1ci
[07:05] <EriC^^> is it loaded right now?
[07:05] <nikolam> Xorg behaves right with another user account. Must be something with that account running on login.
[07:05] <mr0everywhere> yeah im using the usb one right now
[07:06] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere: does lsmod | grep -i rt
[07:06] <EriC^^> show you anything like rtxxxx
[07:07] <mr0everywhere> that last link is all i get as output
[07:07] <nikolam> How do I figure ot, what App is causing for Xorg to have such large CPU usage_
[07:07] <nikolam> ?
[07:09] <mr0everywhere> eric at the top of the 3chs link it shows rt28xx
[07:11] <mr0everywhere> nkiolam check this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29588
[07:13] <nikolam> mr0everywhere, I use top but it shows only Xorg.
[07:14] <BuzzardBuzz> that top command shows alot of running processes on my box
[07:14] <mr0everywhere> same here
[07:15] <BuzzardBuzz> maybe cause he is alternate user?
[07:15] <mr0everywhere> far beyond me, jsut a very quick google on my end
[07:15] <BuzzardBuzz> maybe alternate user has permissions issues?
[07:15] <ikonia> nikolam: reboot into failsafe graphics mode, see if the load goes down
[07:15] <BuzzardBuzz> try running top as superuser?
[07:16] <ikonia> you don't need to be root to run top
[07:16] <mr0everywhere> EriC^^ any ideas yet?
[07:16] <ikonia> nikolam: also press "1" in top to see all cores, see if a process is thread locking 1 core, rather than the whole cpu
[07:16] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere: hmm type lsmod | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:16] <BuzzardBuzz> then why does he not have running processes listed from the top command?
[07:17] <ikonia> BuzzardBuzz: such as ?
[07:17] <ikonia> BuzzardBuzz: he said he does have processes listed, xorg was taking up the top
[07:17] <mr0everywhere> http://termbin.com/58tt
[07:17] <BuzzardBuzz> nikolam said "mr0everywhere, I use top but it shows only Xorg."
[07:17] <baja> hello people
[07:18] <ikonia> BuzzardBuzz: as in it only shows xorg as taking up the resources
[07:18] <nikolam> ikonia, it is one core cpu. picture of mouse cursor is flickering. It is happening ony on that account.
[07:18] <ikonia> nikolam: how many cores does your machine have ?
[07:18] <nikolam> Maybe if I clean up home dir of that user and load default desktop..
[07:18] <nikolam> ikonia, 1.
[07:18] <baja> im trying to access a directory through terminal but im getting permission denied
[07:18] <ikonia> nikolam: what cpu is this ?
[07:18] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere: i think this is it mt7610u_sta
[07:19] <baja> ~/.profile
[07:19] <nikolam> P3-733. I think itćs not connected to cpu type.
[07:19] <ikonia> nikolam: it sounds like something you're loading within xorg for that user, a startup app, or something is just taking more resources than you have
[07:19] <mr0everywhere> besides the _sta that looks like it
[07:19] <ikonia> nikolam: have a look in the xorg log and the xsessions log for that specific user
[07:19] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere: try echo "mt7610u_sta" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[07:19] <nikolam> ok ikonia
[07:20] <ikonia> nikolam: something minor you are loading could be erroring all the time, taking up your resources as that cpu is pretty weak for a modern distro, despite how low foot print xfce is
[07:20] <mr0everywhere> it just poped mt7610u_sta
[07:20] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere: type locate mt7610u_sta.ko | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:21] <mr0everywhere> http://termbin.com/cy5b
[07:22] <mr0everywhere> the desktop portion is where i currently have to cd to
[07:22] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere: ok try to reboot and see if it works
[07:22] <mr0everywhere> i will be right back then
[07:23] <EriC^^> ok
[07:23] <gawd> The Ads are ruining Yelp
[07:25] <e01> is there some software that can simulate apple's airport utility, i mean to connect mac computers to this software via airport utility?
[07:27] <ikonia> why do you want to use airport utility ? just connect via normal wifi
[07:28] <mr0everywhere_> now i am back and it got online all on its own, but all of my text is about font size 3
[07:28] <BuzzardBuzz> well then you're progressing
[07:29] <mr0everywhere_> BuzzardBuzz yes i am
[07:29] <BuzzardBuzz> now you just need to fix your font resize back to normal, it sounds like
[07:29] <mr0everywhere_> i can read text inside my browser window but all other text is microscopic
[07:29] <mr0everywhere_> how do i go about that?
[07:29] <BuzzardBuzz> maybe you need bigger monitor then
[07:29] <BuzzardBuzz> chuckle
[07:30] <baja> nvm :command not found
[07:30] <baja> in the terminal
[07:30] <baja> i have installed node
[07:30] <BuzzardBuzz> Eric^^ likely knows that
[07:30] <EriC^^> BuzzardBuzz: not really
[07:30] <EriC^^> :D
[07:30] <baja> eric
[07:30] <baja> help
[07:30] <EriC^^> it's irrelevant to what we just did though
[07:31] <cihhan> hi all. im trying to create my own deb package which installs already existing packages and puts my own configuration files. i have built packages (debian control file, preinst, and postinst files). but i havent fully understood what i need to add for removing a package (apt-get remove foo) vs purging it (apt-get purge foo) completely. and suggestions?
[07:31] <BuzzardBuzz> there should not have been a font size change
[07:31] <mr0everywhere_> eric thanks for the help with what we jsut did.
[07:31] <EriC^^> no problem
[07:31] <baja> im in the process of installing node and i get this error
[07:31] <baja> nvm: command not found
[07:31] <mr0everywhere_> al of my icons have also shrunk with the text but they are only about half size
[07:32] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere_: are you using unity?
[07:32] <ikonia> baja: how are you installing node - let me guess, building it from source ?
[07:32] <mr0everywhere_> plasma i think
[07:32] <baja> through terminal
[07:32] <mr0everywhere_> whatever comes preinstalled with kubuntu
[07:32] <baja> ikonia
[07:33] <ikonia> baja: how are you trying to install it
[07:33] <baja> sudo apt-get install npm
[07:33] <ikonia> baja: ok ? so that should install node, whats the problem ?
[07:34] <baja> a minute
[07:34] <BuzzardBuzz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/162603/how-do-i-change-system-wide-font-settings-in-kubuntu
[07:34] <baja> problem is when installing nvm
[07:34] <baja> ikonia
[07:35] <ikonia> baja: how are you installing nvm
[07:35] <BuzzardBuzz> looks like fonts in system settings
[07:35] <mr0everywhere_> apparently it is all 12 point font but it needs to be 48 point font to be readable again
[07:35] <baja> curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/creationix/nvm/v0.16.1/install.sh | sh
[07:36] <BuzzardBuzz> so you can get it to work correctly then
[07:36] <baja> i run that in terminal and was successful
[07:36] <mr0everywhere_> BuzzardBuzz kind of but it should be about 12 point with the size it shows at 48 point
[07:37] <beltorak> hi all; my lxcbr0 net device has dissappeared, so I cannot run any linux containers. Does anyone know what I can do to troubleshoot? I'm not sure when it dissappeared.
[07:37] <baja> im trying to use the nvm command in terminal
[07:37] <ikonia> baja: so that script is junk, it's installed it to a place that is not in your default system path
[07:37] <mr0everywhere_> the first time i go to print and forget its going to print to like 1000 pages lol
[07:37] <ikonia> as you are installing node from the ubuntu package manager, using nvm to use multiple versions seems a very bad idea
[07:37] <baja> ok the problem is nvm command throws back an error
[07:37] <BuzzardBuzz> what about your icons, still 25% smaller?
[07:37] <baja> curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/creationix/nvm/v0.16.1/install.sh | sh
[07:37] <mr0everywhere_> buzzard buzz if not more
[07:38] <baja> nvm: command not found
[07:38] <ikonia> baja: right, because it's installed it into ~/.nvm which is not in your $PATH
[07:38] <ikonia> baja: yes, and I've just told you why
[07:38] <baja> i @baja-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~$ ~/.nvm
[07:38] <BuzzardBuzz> sounds like everything is scaled down to 1/4 of the normal size, weird
[07:38] <baja> i have navigated to the file
[07:38] <baja> .nvm
[07:38] <EriC^^> mr0everywhere_: except for the browser?
[07:39] <ikonia> baja: right ?
[07:39] <mr0everywhere_> except for things visible inside the browser
[07:39] <baja> so what should i do know?
[07:39] <baja> now?
[07:39] <cihhan> how does the package creation work for apt-get remove and apt-get purge? in package creation, how can we identify it?
[07:39] <ikonia> run the nvm command from the file that is in that directory
[07:39] <mr0everywhere_> i can read everythign going on in the room but not what i am typing down below or any of the titles of the bars or anythin g
[07:39] <ikonia> cihhan: those commands don't create packages
[07:39] <mr0everywhere_> i think it is the dpi setting gone wonky
[07:39] <baja> im there already
[07:40] <baja> tried running ..its throwing back the same error
[07:40] <ikonia> baja: right, so run the nvm file that exists in that directory
[07:40] <BuzzardBuzz> there may be a scaling setting inside your monitor preferences
[07:40] <baja> wats the command
[07:40] <BuzzardBuzz> that may be changed from before
[07:40] <ikonia> baja: what is the EXACT command you are using
[07:41] <cihhan> ikonia: thanks. the thing is im creating my own package which uses other packages and i add my own configuration files. but im not sure what i need to do for remove and purge (are they defined in prerm and postrm?)
[07:41] <baja> ~/.nvm$ nvm
[07:41] <BuzzardBuzz> maybe its inside the displays settings window
[07:41] <baja> nvm ls-remote
[07:41] <ikonia> cihhan: they will be orphaned, so removed with apt-get clean
[07:41] <mr0everywhere_> BuzzardBuzz setting everything to 48 point font did nothing
[07:41] <ikonia> baja: that won't work
[07:41] <ikonia> baja: please show me the output of "ls -la nvm"
[07:42] <baja> ok
[07:42] <baja> ls -la nvm
[07:42] <BuzzardBuzz> likely there are scaling settings related to the display that can resolve this
[07:42] <cihhan> ikonia: so there are preinst, postinst, preinst, and postinst -- i was wondering if there is anything i can do for purge and remove only in those files
[07:43] <e01> ikonia: i want to create on my home ubuntu box service for backup utility, it will be nice to be dettected from airport utility
[07:43] <ikonia> cihhan: nope, you can't remove depends like that, you need to let the apt-get clean do that
[07:43] <cihhan> ikonia: i see. thanks a lot :)
[07:43] <BuzzardBuzz> there is a default font scaling factor
[07:43] <cihhan> ikonia: i will check it further :)
[07:43] <LuvIsBad2TheBone> hello world
[07:43] <mr0everywhere_> BuzzardBuzz i am looking right now but cant read anything in the menus i pull up
[07:43] <baja> baja@baja-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC:~/.nvm$ ls -la nvm
[07:43] <baja> ls: cannot access nvm: No such file or directory
[07:44] <ikonia> baja: the command is not there - so your install didn't work
[07:44] <BuzzardBuzz> there are also launcher scaling factors also
[07:44] <baja> install nvm can show me
[07:44] <baja> ikonia
[07:45] <ikonia> no
[07:45] <ikonia> I advise you not to use it
[07:45] <baja> hehe
[07:45] <ikonia> as you've already installed node from the ubuntu package manager
[07:45] <ikonia> so trying to use nvm to use multiple versions is not something I'd recommend
[07:45] <nikolam> ikonia I think large CPU usage is because of "System Load Monitor" Xfce applet in recent 14.04 update. It dopd not behave like that before, so something is changed in recent 14.04 LTS so it uses much more CPU time, over Xorg.
[07:45] <baja> ok tell me from start
[07:45] <baja> uninstall
[07:45] <ikonia> nikolam very possible
[07:45] <BuzzardBuzz> force fonts DPI to 96 might help
[07:46] <nikolam> let me see with xubuntu people to report a bug and see if change is in xubuntu or in ubuntu itself
[07:46] <baja> ikonia but node is already installed
[07:46] <ikonia> nikolam: if you remove the applet does it go away
[07:46] <baja> i can use npm
[07:46] <ikonia> baja: yes, I know this, I've just told you this
[07:46] <nikolam> but I deleted user dir of an user and gave it emptz one so it is on default profile
[07:46] <ikonia> baja: re-read what I said
[07:46] <nikolam> ikonia, yes
[07:47] <ikonia> nikolam: looks a good candidate then
[07:47] <nikolam> but we'll see if it is change in xfce or in ubuntu inside LTS updates
[07:47] <nikolam> ok
[07:48] <croc> i can never get file sharing to work in ubuntu
[07:49] <mr0everywhere_> buzzardBuzz how would i go about doing that?
[07:49] <NegativeFlare> croc: I've never had problems with it
[07:49] <NegativeFlare> Just depends on what your using as the protocol ;)
[07:49] <croc> i right click, i click share folder, i create the share, i click ok.  i type smbclient -L //myipaddress .. share shows up
[07:50] <BuzzardBuzz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/197828/how-to-find-and-change-the-screen-dpi
[07:50] <croc> i type smbclient //myipaddress/myshare -U myuser and i get tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED, Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 4.1.13-Ubuntu]
[07:50] <BuzzardBuzz> there are alot of possibilities listed on the posted page for you
[07:50] <NegativeFlare> croc: two different computers? or?
[07:51] <croc> NegativeFlare, same computer
[07:51] <NegativeFlare> hmm
[07:51] <baja> ikonia check private message
[07:51] <ikonia> no
[07:51] <ricard> can someone tell me if it is normal that the bios does not leave me the option xmp, if the ram does not have the option xmp ??
[07:51] <NegativeFlare> Honestly, I've only worked on the samba server, so I'm not sure why it would be doing that croc
[07:51] <baja> pls
[07:51] <ikonia> ricard: talk to your hardware provider, this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[07:51] <croc> hmm :/  this is a brand new install too
[07:52] <baja> just for a minute
[07:52] <croc> NegativeFlare, i've also had the same problem before on ubuntu 12.04
[07:52] <ikonia> baja: no,
[07:52] <baja> ok
[07:52] <NegativeFlare> croc: are you sure your computer is in the WORKGROUP domain/workgroup?
[07:52] <NegativeFlare> croc: Honestly, it bothers me because I run a Samba server on my home network, for my wife can access the files on the network.
[07:54] <croc> i do find ubuntu to be very buggy
[07:54] <NegativeFlare> croc: The main reason I think that's going on, is the fact that your not actually run a samba server
[07:54] <NegativeFlare> and you haven't configured one, etc.
[07:54] <croc> smbd is running
[07:55] <ikonia> is the firewall open ?
[07:55] <croc> it comes pre-installed with ubuntu 15.04 desktop
[07:55] <croc> not unless it's on by default
[07:55] <ikonia> eg: can you hit it at a dumb port level
[07:55] <BuzzardBuzz> ricard: in addition to your ram supporting xmp, your motherboard needs to support it also
[07:55] <croc> NegativeFlare, fck.. i can't open system config
[07:55] <NegativeFlare> oh lordy
[07:57] <tomhardy> ok
[07:58] <BuzzardBuzz> croc: what is your name resolve order = <settings> in your smb.conf file?
[07:58] <ricard> BuzzardBuzz, the mhotherboard says that if you accept xmp but I do not get reflected by the ram may not supporting xmp
[07:58] <BuzzardBuzz> croc: do you use wins or bcast ?
[07:58] <ikonia> ricard: try ##hardware
[08:03] <ricard> ## in hardware not answer
[08:04] <ikonia> then wait for an answer
[08:04] <ikonia> this channel is for ubuntu support
[08:04] <baja> Source string already in /home/baja/.bashrc
[08:04] <baja> => Close and reopen your terminal to start using nvm
[08:05] <baja> nvm
[08:06] <ricard> the mhotherboard says that if you accept xmp but I do not get reflected by the ram may not supporting xmp
[08:06] <ikonia> ricard: this channel is for ubuntu support
[08:06] <ikonia> ricard: please stop asking
[08:07] <ricard> ikonioa're a little edge
[08:07] <ikonia> what ?
[08:08] <ricard> that costs you answer a simple question
[08:09] <ikonia> ricard: I'm asking you to please keep to the channels topic, which is ubuntu support, if we let you make it generic, we let everyone, which is why we keep it to the topic
[08:09] <ikonia> please use the right channels and wait for a response
[08:09] <baja> how do i install nvm
[08:10] <baja> its already installed but i cant use in termnal
[08:10] <ikonia> it is not installed
[08:10] <ikonia> I showed you earlier - it is not installed, hence why you get the command not found error
[08:10] <baja> let me show you
[08:11] <baja> how do i install nvm
[08:11] <BuzzardBuzz> ricard: find out what motherboard you have installed ubuntu on, next find out what ram you are running ubuntu with, next look at google hardware forums for your solution to run ubuntu faster
[08:12] <ikonia> BuzzardBuzz: take it to ##hardware please, putting the word ubuntu in the response does not make bios options/hardware support in the bios an ubuntu issue
[08:12] <ikonia> (or use a pm)
[08:12] <baja> Source string already in /home/baja/.bashrc
[08:13] <BuzzardBuzz> sorry, your right that should have been a pm
[08:13] <baja> => Close and reopen your terminal to start using nvm^C
[08:13] <ikonia> BuzzardBuzz: no issue
[08:13] <baja> ikonia you see
[08:14] <ikonia> baja: no, I don't see, it's NOT installed as you proved earlier
[08:14] <baja> ok tell me how to install and work
[08:15] <ikonia> baja: no, as I advised you earlier, you've already installed node via the ubuntu package, my opion of using nvm to manage multiple external versions is that it is bad/wrong
[08:15] <ricard> thanks
[08:15] <baja> is there another way
[08:16] <baja> alternative
[08:16] <ikonia> "don't use it" is my advice
[08:16] <ikonia> use the node install that the ubuntu package provided
[08:38] <tokam> Hi I am on 14.04 and if I type in apt-get update
[08:38] <tokam> apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:38] <tokam> than update-manager -d tells me I am on the latest version
[08:38] <tokam> How can I upgrade to 14.10?
[08:39] <ikonia> why are you doing update-manager -d
[08:39] <Qwertie-> I think thats because 14.04 is an lts version
[08:39] <ikonia> why -d ?
[08:39] <tokam> Because it is told in the tutorial
[08:39] <tokam> https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/sources.list
[08:39] <ikonia> what tutorial
[08:39] <ikonia> that guide looks VERY bad
[08:40] <tokam> it did not work for me actually
[08:40] <ikonia> it is VERY wrong
[08:40] <tokam> how can I upgrade?
[08:40] <ikonia> !upgrade | tokam
[08:40] <ikonia> use the official docs
[08:40] <ikonia> that German guide is wrong
[08:41] <tokam> I do not use launch-pad what is updater?
[08:41] <tokam> update-manager ok
[08:42] <bekks> tokam: What is told in that german guide - besides the structure of a source.list file?
[08:42] <tokam> to run the commands which I listed
[08:42] <Qwertie-> Does anyone know how to get a dark window theme like this? https://i.imgur.com/i5jrm5Y.png
[08:43] <Qwertie-> Without switching from numix
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> !themes | Qwertie-
[08:43] <tokam> sorry
[08:43] <tokam> the commands are not listed there
[08:43] <bekks> tokam: the only command mentioned is "sudo apt-get update" to be executed after a potential manual edit of the sources.list
[08:43] <tokam> I do not know anymore in which tutorial I read them
[08:44] <ikonia> tokam: just follow the official guide
[08:44] <Qwertie-> lotuspsychje, This was just using numix gtk and in the gnome tweak tool there was a switch to make it dark/light
[08:44] <ikonia> tokam: the one ubottu gave you
[08:44] <bekks> So that guide does not tell you anything about manually updating the release in sources.list
[08:44] <tokam> this leads to telling me that I am on the latest version
[08:44] <tokam> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade
[08:44] <ikonia> tokam: what leads you to that ?
[08:44] <tokam> I am now reading here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:45] <ikonia> tokam: what are you actually doing ?
[08:45] <ikonia> tokam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UtopicUpgrades
[08:45] <tokam> i told ubuntu that I like to be notified about all version upgrades and than I run update-manager
[08:45] <bekks> I guess he is trying to manually upgrading by changing the release in sources.list
[08:45] <tokam> bekks: I am not
[08:45] <ikonia> bekks: thats how it read to me at first
[08:45] <ikonia> and then blindly using -d from update-manager, which will never work
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Qwertie-: check deviantart for themes you want, they mostly describe names and methods
[08:46] <bekks> ikonia: Yeah, that'll never work. I'll take a look at that german article and change it by pointing out that the manual edit is going to work for release upgrades.
[08:46] <tokam> Finally 14.10 was detected thanks
[08:47] <ikonia> bekks: "not" going to work you mean ?
[08:47] <bekks> ikonia: yeah :)
[08:47] <tokam> all best! thanks for your help
[08:47] <ikonia> bekks: it looks a bad article to me, but part of that may be my german failing me - so it may look worse than it is
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> Qwertie-: http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/?section=&global=1&q=numix&offset=24
[08:48] <tomhardy> how do i setup ubuntu 15.04 desktop with a static IP programatically?
[08:48] <bekks> ikonia: Actually the article just points out how to read a sources.list file, how all those lines are formed, and how they differe between releases (by showing the default sources.list for every release). And it points out how to backup and manually edit the sources.list, but it doesnt tell to upgrade the release by manually editing.
[08:49] <bekks> Thats to be pointed out in there then: "Dont upgrade your release by editing it." :)
[08:49] <ikonia> bekks: it read to me like it was telling you to change the distro and apt-get update
[08:49] <ikonia> tomhardy: open network manager, and change the settings from dynamic to static
[08:49] <tomhardy> ikonia: sorry programatically.. i.e. command line
[08:50] <tomhardy> i want to script it
[08:50] <ikonia> tomhardy: why ?
[08:50] <ikonia> tomhardy: just use the network manager gui
[08:50] <ikonia> thats what it's there for
[08:50] <tomhardy> because i have 30 computers to setup and i don't want any individual process to be manual
[08:50] <yuriy_> Hello
[08:50] <ikonia> tomhardy: so you should in that case call the network manager command line interface
[08:50] <yuriy_> i can't resume correctly from suspend mode
[08:50] <Qwertie-> lotuspsychje, The instructions to get the dark theme involve the gnome tweak tool
[08:51] <yuriy_> mouse coursor is loaded and could be moved, login screen is shown
[08:51] <tomhardy> ikonia: ok so google for network-manager ?
[08:51] <Ben64> tomhardy: sounds like you should be setting up static dhcp on the router
[08:51] <yuriy_> but can't do any action
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> Qwertie-: didnt use the tweak tool myself
[08:51] <ikonia> as setting a static ip manually will create a conflict/fight with network manager
[08:51] <bekks> tomhardy: Use DHCP and configure static lease times.
[08:52] <ikonia> that would be asn easier option, just put in entreis on the dhcp server
[08:52] <tomhardy> bekks: hmm ok.. will the computer still make a DHCP request for an ip address when it boots up if there is a long lease time?
[08:53] <ikonia> yes
[08:53] <ikonia> it needs to verify the lease and/or fall back
[08:53] <tomhardy> bekks: only reason i ask is that the the DHCP server is 9km away, and about 4 or 5 times a year the connection goes down for a few hours
[08:53] <bekks> tomhardy: Which isnt tragically.
[08:53] <ikonia> tomhardy: that will not be a problem then
[08:53] <tomhardy> and i still need to mantain connectivity
[08:53] <ikonia> that will not be a problem
[08:54] <tomhardy> they'll just boot with their previously assigned IPs?
[08:54] <ikonia> they will fall back
[08:54] <ikonia> as long as the expire time is set correctly
[08:54] <tomhardy> obviously they won't have internet, but they'll be able to access the local git repos etc
[08:54] <tomhardy> ok cool
[08:54] <bekks> tomhardy: Just take care that the lease time is more than twice the potential outage of the DHCP server. Like setting it to 7 days will enable you an outage of 3.5 days.
[08:55] <antonio_> I'm trying to install google drive aka grive-tools - this is the error I got
[08:55] <antonio_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:55] <antonio_>  grive-tools : Depends: grive (>= 0.3) but 0.2.0-1.1 is to be installed
[08:55] <antonio_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[08:55] <antonio_> oops...
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> yuriy_: tail -f /var/log/syslog and suspend/resume, see what errors you get
[08:55] <ikonia> antonio_: package conflicts
[08:56] <antonio_> ikonia: yeah I gathered that much..not sure what to do
[08:56] <ikonia> fix the conflicts,
[08:57] <antonio_> ikonia: how can I do that?
[08:58] <ikonia> antonio_: look at what has happened to your system and where the packages have come from - decide what you want to keep and what compromises you want to make by removing the conflicts
[08:58] <antonio_> ikonia: is there a more efficient way to do that?
[08:58] <vubuntu> Hi People. I've installed smplayer but am unable to watch an mp4 video. It works on the standard video player installed with ubuntu. Is there any reason for this? What can be done to resolve this issue as I prefer SMPLAYER to the other players on ubuntu
[08:58] <ikonia> antonio_: no
[08:59] <ikonia> vubuntu: missing codecs
[08:59] <vubuntu> ikonia: which missing codecs?
[08:59] <Ben64> whats the error
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> antonio: did you add a ppa?
[08:59] <ikonia> the ones for mp4
[08:59] <vubuntu> ikonia: ive done the ubuntu-restricted extras
[09:00] <ikonia> vubuntu: does that a.) contain mp4 support b.) does smplayer use those libraries/plugins
[09:00] <Ben64> vubuntu: install mplayer2, try playing it there
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> !info mplayer2 | vubuntu tnx to Ben64
[09:02] <vubuntu> Ben64: thank you ill give it a try now @ ikonia im not sure about the support for smplayer. I'll give it a try and get back
[09:08] <zamba> can the ssh-agent be used to decrypt files? meaning that i have encrypted a text file that contains a password.. i then have a script that needs to read this password
[09:08] <ikonia> zamba: no
[09:08] <bekks> zamba: How was that file encrypted?
[09:08] <ikonia> zamba: it's there to manage your ssh keys to the server/client
[09:08] <vubuntu> Ben64: and ikonia I've installed mplayer2 ran an mp4 video from command line. I only get audio and no video.
[09:09] <Ben64> vubuntu: pastebin the output from it
[09:09] <zamba> my reasoning is the following.. i have a script that will update a cisco asa.. i have already connected to the ASA using public-key authentication, but to enter enable mode i still need to provide a password.. so to avoid either entering a password in the cleartext in the script or in a configuration file, i want a more secure way of doing this
[09:09] <zamba> do you have any alternative ways of doing this?
[09:10] <zamba> suggestions?
[09:11] <bekks> zamba: Decrypt your file using the mechanisms oyu used to encrypt it.
[09:11] <vubuntu> Ben64: sorry i lost connection. How do i get the output?
[09:11] <zamba> bekks: but this is a chicken-and-egg problem, isn't it? because i still need a method to decrypt the file..
[09:11] <bekks> zamba: The more effective way would be forcing the user to enter all required passwords.
[09:11] <bekks> zamba: How did you encrypt it...?
[09:11] <zamba> bekks: i haven't encrypted it yet.. i need to design something secure around this
[09:11] <Ben64> vubuntu: when you open the terminal and do something like "mplayer blahblah.mp4" it spits out a bunch of information, pastebin it
[09:12] <ikonia> zamba: setup tacacs
[09:12] <zamba> ikonia: on the cisco asa?
[09:12] <ikonia> zamba: no, for the cisco
[09:12] <bekks> And configure your cisco to use tacacs.
[09:13] <vubuntu> ahh ok working on it
[09:13] <zamba> but how will implementing tacacs solve this? don't you still need to be using passwords?
[09:13] <zamba> bekks & ikonia: i basically want to avoid having passwords put into scripts or configuration files in clear text
[09:14] <ikonia> zamba: you can make upgrade calls to tacacs with restricted users
[09:14] <zamba> ikonia: what's an upgrade call?
[09:14] <ikonia> where you're doing an upgrade
[09:14] <zamba> am i doing an upgrade?
[09:14] <zamba> upgrade of what?
[09:14] <bekks> OF your ASA.
[09:15] <zamba> oh.. sorry.. no.. i'm manipulating network objects on the asa
[09:15] <ikonia> this is not an ubuntu problem
[09:15] <zamba> not upgrading it
[09:15] <ikonia> I suggest you contact cisco support
[09:15] <vubuntu> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11825181/
[09:15] <ikonia> get supported/official solutions
[09:16] <bekks> zamba: Or use tacacs for identification.
[09:16] <ikonia> he seems to not want to do that
[09:17] <bekks> Mostly because he doesnt know what tacacs is for.
[09:22] <vubuntu> Hi Guys ive put a pastbin up. Can you tell me why mplayer2 does not play mp4 and the standard ubuntu player does
[09:27] <mac_> hi guys, Does anyone have tried to install ubuntu on a Macbook air (yeah I'm serious) ?
[09:28] <mac_> How is it working ?
[09:36] <Ben64> vubuntu: probably this X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[09:37] <vubuntu> Ben64: its ok ive just installed VLC and it works. Was just trying to figure out why i couldnt used mplayer (SMPLAYER FRONTEND) - it worked great before. But if I cant resolve then I'll move to VLC
[09:37] <NegativeFlare> vubuntu: I personally use VLC.
[09:38] <NegativeFlare> Well then. lol
[09:38] <vubuntu> thanks for your efforts guys
[09:38] <Ben64> vubuntu: seems like a problem with your video card
[09:38] <Ben64> not enough memory, or wrong driver
[09:39] <Ben64> if you have an nvidia card, you should install libvdpau
[09:39] <vubuntu> Ben64: if its video card why would it work on the standard ubuntu player and VLC and not MPLAYER?
[09:40] <sallu> any genius here
[09:41] <Ben64> vubuntu: different methods of sending stuff to the screen
[09:41] <sallu> is ubuntu offering to share miracast with tv
[09:41] <vubuntu> Ben64: im using Video Driver for the AMD graphics accelerators from fglrx (proprietary)
[09:42] <vubuntu> Ben64: should I move back to the open source tested driver?
[09:42] <Ben64> no, really weird that xv isn't working though
[09:42] <ikonia> xv sometimes fails on the hybrid cards
[09:43] <Ben64> oh never heard of that
[09:43] <Ben64> vubuntu: try 'mplayer -vo gl blah.mp4'
[09:43] <vubuntu> Ben64: im trying that now
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> sallu  is this link useful: http://askubuntu.com/questions/318298/ubuntu-as-miracast-sender-receiver
[09:46] <vubuntu> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11825277/
[09:46] <sallu> MonkeyDust, ok i am checking
[09:46] <vubuntu> Ben64 just this pops up no audio or video this time
[09:46] <Ben64> ew
[09:47] <sallu> is it true that we can combine 4mb+4mb into 8mb speed?
[09:47] <Ben64> vubuntu: try 'mplayer -vo x11 blah.mp4'
[09:47] <Ben64> if that doesn't work, get a new computer
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> sallu  you're not the first to ask (on forums), but no answer...
[09:48] <vubuntu> Ben64: omg that works WOW. are you're a super star. You want to brief me with why it works when using x11?
[09:49] <Ben64> well you can't full screen that way, its not the best
[09:49] <sallu> MonkeyDust, oh ok
[09:50] <vubuntu> Ben64: i notived that thanks
[09:50] <Ben64> you got some weird stuff going on with your video card
[09:51] <vubuntu> Ben64: should I use the open source or proprietary one?
[09:51] <Ben64> proprietary is better
[09:51] <Ben64> is it a laptop with dual gpu?
[09:52] <vubuntu> its a laptop. What is dual gpu?
[09:53] <Ben64> just what it says on the tin, two gpus, usually one integrated and one 'real' one
[09:53] <vubuntu> HP 4730s i7
[09:54] <Ben64> yeah thats probably the reason
[09:54] <antonio_> Anyone else have a problem installing grive / grive-tools?
[09:55] <Ben64> antonio_: nope
[09:55] <panos_> can not boot ubuntu frm dvd. something to do with uefi i think
[09:55] <vubuntu> Ben64: thanks for your assistance. Got it to work and I'm happy. Thanks for your help and advice
[09:57] <antonio_> ben64: when I try installing grive-tools I get these errors http://pastebin.com/fDni7QB6
[09:58] <Ben64> yep, just like you posted before and got an answer about
[09:58] <antonio_> I still don't understand what to do
[09:59] <ikonia> antonio_: what's not clear ?
[09:59] <panos_> can not boot ubuntu frm dvd. something to do with uefi i think... any idea?
[09:59] <ikonia> antonio_: I explained the issue / solution / approach earlier
[10:01] <drmagoo> panos_: disable uefi in the bios ?
[10:01] <panos_> so ubuntu doesnt use uefi?
[10:02] <antonio_> ikonia: I have no idea where to start
[10:03] <Ben64> first step might be to not install random packages because it causes all the conflicts
[10:03] <ikonia> antonio_: start by addressing the first conflict it's complaining about
[10:04] <vegombrei> hi i just recently installed ubuntu .. am a noob .. have a blu ray burner ... what software is for blu ray playback and burning?
[10:06] <drmagoo> panos_: I think that Ubuntu has been certified to use uefi, but if you have trouble with UEFI I suggest you disable it.
[10:06] <vegombrei> que passa?
[10:07] <vegombrei> !ubottu
[10:08] <vegombrei> !ubottu bluray
[10:08] <NegativeFlare> !bluray
[10:08] <antonio_> ikonia: how do I know where to check for the conflicts?
[10:09] <ikonia> antonio_: it lists the packge that is conflicting
[10:09] <antonio_> like this? python-pyinotify
[10:09] <ikonia> like the packages it says it needs in the error
[10:10] <antonio_> ah like this ikonia: Depends: grive (>= 0.3) but 0.2.0-1.1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[10:10] <BBLLCC> my kernel is 3.16, but i see on wikipedia that 15.04s kernel is 3.19
[10:11] <BBLLCC> why is that not updated on my machine?
[10:11] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: Have you updated via apt-get lately?
[10:11] <BBLLCC> NegativeFlare, yesterday
[10:12] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: x86 or amd64?
[10:12] <BBLLCC> 64bits
[10:12] <antonio_> actually, I think I found the solution http://askubuntu.com/questions/161273/is-there-a-google-drive-client-available/320333#320333
[10:12] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: I've got 3.19
[10:12] <NegativeFlare> so I'm not sure why you haven't gotten it.
[10:12] <NegativeFlare> Try making sure you've got an updated mirror, if your using one.
[10:13] <BryanRuiz> im trying to sync my local ubuntu (older) with my new amazon ec2 ubuntu..  how do i compare the versions?
[10:13] <BBLLCC> NegativeFlare, are kernels on the repos too?
[10:13] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: mhm
[10:13] <BBLLCC> mhm = ?
[10:13] <NegativeFlare> ...
[10:13] <NegativeFlare> mhm means yes :P
[10:13] <NegativeFlare> BryanRuiz: rsync
[10:14] <NegativeFlare> Probably, that is.
[10:14] <bekks> BBLLCC: Pastebin "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" please.
[10:15] <BryanRuiz> hmm.. i want to update from precise to trusty it seems..  is that hard?
[10:15] <BBLLCC> yo want the whole log?
[10:15] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: in a pastebin, yes.
[10:18] <BBLLCC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11825391/
[10:19] <EriC^^> BryanRuiz: very easy, sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:20] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: Looks like you've got some broken Repos list files, need to fix those up before you can run apt-get upgrade
[10:20] <BBLLCC> NegativeFlare, how does a noob do that?
[10:21] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: Well from the paste, it looks like the getdeb ones are broken
[10:21] <NegativeFlare> so I'd go into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[10:21] <NegativeFlare> and find them, and rm them
[10:21] <BryanRuiz> Im scared EriC^^..  well i hit the upgrade button
[10:21] <NegativeFlare> then do apt-get update again
[10:22] <EriC^^> BryanRuiz: no worries, should go smooth
[10:22] <EriC^^> BryanRuiz: you won't lose your data in any case
[10:22] <BryanRuiz> EriC^^: will i have to resetup my desktop environment (i use KUbuntu)
[10:23] <EriC^^> BryanRuiz: no
[10:23] <BryanRuiz> cool :)
[10:23] <HulkH> Hello. How can I move the launcher from the left side of my desktop to any other place?
[10:23] <BBLLCC> NegativeFlare, all getdebs?
[10:24] <BBLLCC> remove all getdebs?
[10:24] <NegativeFlare> looks like it.
[10:24] <EriC^^> HulkH: nope
[10:24] <HulkH> EriC^^, Why?
[10:24] <BBLLCC> done, update and upgrade now?
[10:24] <EriC^^> HulkH: cause it's not written that way
[10:25] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: yup
[10:26] <mgaunard_> my google chrome windows have no icon, how do I fix this
[10:26] <BBLLCC> any idea why I have to turn on the wifi function of my craptop every time I log in? it used not to be like that
[10:27] <HulkH> GoldenDict scan pop isn't active with Firefox, how can I resolve this?
[10:28] <BBLLCC> done, but i am not being promtped to restart the machine so the newest kernel is installed...
[10:28] <HulkH> EriC^^, It looks ugly though on the left side of the desktop
[10:28] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: you won't when using apt-get ;)
[10:28] <NegativeFlare> if you use the GUI on the other hand, it literally wants you to reboot xD
[10:29] <BBLLCC> NegativeFlare, in that directory you mentioned there are programs that "belong" to precise or saucy. Can I get rid of them as well?
[10:30] <HulkH> NegativeFlare, how can I prolong my laptop battery life under Ubuntu, and can the OS manage it like Mac OS manages the battery?
[10:30] <NegativeFlare> BBLLCC: ehh, that's totally up to you. But remember your messing with the package system. If you break it, your system is doomed.
[10:31] <NegativeFlare> HulkH: not really hard, just tell the settings to shut off the display after a while, suspend when needed, etc
[10:31] <NegativeFlare> Things like that
[10:31] <NegativeFlare> My laptop lasts a good 3 hours, and its running Xubuntu.
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> HulkH  read this : http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[10:33] <HulkH> NegativeFlare, Thanks!
[10:34] <BryanRuiz> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main libevdocument3-4 amd64 3.10.3-0ubuntu10.2  ---- 503  Service Unavailable [IP: 91.189.91.13 80]
[10:34] <HulkH>  MonkeyDust Thanks for the link. I have a question though. do I have to use the terminal to install TLP?
[10:34] <NegativeFlare> HulkH: no problem.
[10:34] <BryanRuiz> i get that while upgrading my dist
[10:34] <HulkH> I'm new to Ubuntu. the OS is ok, but different completely from Windows :D
[10:35] <NegativeFlare> HulkH: welcome to the free world, where your free from garbage software xD
[10:35] <NegativeFlare> BryanRuiz: Are you using a proxy?
[10:35] <BryanRuiz> no..  you know what it is.. its my stupid router.. has some firewall for porn
[10:36] <BryanRuiz> thanks NegativeFlare for making me thing
[10:36] <BryanRuiz> think*
[10:36] <NegativeFlare> BryanRuiz: XD no problem
[10:36] <HulkH> NegativeFlare, That's true, however, there are some limitations though, like, my laptop has 2 graphic cards, ubuntu only recognises one, while the other is missing!
[10:37] <NegativeFlare> HulkH: not true :P
[10:37] <cfhowlett> NegativeFlare, false
[10:37] <NegativeFlare> HulkH: That's a driver issue, check out lspci
[10:37] <NegativeFlare> cfhowlett: oh?
[10:37] <NegativeFlare> You've looked into it?
[10:37] <NegativeFlare> And checked out lspci?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> NegativeFlare, I've dual gpu's.  intel & nvidia.  you can select with the proper drivers.
[10:37] <NegativeFlare> cfhowlett: yes, I understand that
[10:38] <NegativeFlare> But linux KNOWS there are two of them, you have to use the correct tools to find them both :P
[10:38] <HulkH> NegativeFlare, hmm, as I mentioned I'm still new to this OS. the point here is that when I check system information, I don't get any info about my other Graphic card(which is more powerful than the intel one)
[10:38] <NegativeFlare> HulkH: fire up the terminal and run lspci
[10:39] <NegativeFlare> If you see the more powerful card there, then Linux sees it. Otherwise, something else is going on.
[10:41] <HulkH> NegativeFlare, yeah, only the intel one appears
[10:42] <NegativeFlare> HulkH: that's really odd honestly
[10:42] <NegativeFlare> I'm not sure what's going on
[10:44] <BBLLCC> after rebooting kernel is still 3.16
[10:45] <Ben64> BBLLCC: whats the output of uname -a
[10:46] <BBLLCC> 3.16.0-29-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 15 22:27:29 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:46] <ralph_> hai
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> BBLLCC  and of  ls /boot/|grep linuz|pastebinit
[10:47] <BBLLCC> on synaptic I found Linux kernel source for version 3.19.0 with Ubuntu patches, do I manually install it?
[10:47] <Ben64> not till we figure out why its not doing it automatically
[10:47] <BBLLCC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11825511/
[10:48] <calimero_82> hi
[10:48] <calimero_82> can i install lubuntu 14.04 in acer 3630? i've sis as gpu, thanks
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> BBLLCC  try removing the unneeded kernels
[10:51] <hobbet1> hello i am using lubuntu and i keep getting this error under synaptic and i already uninstalled opera how can i get rid of it W: GPG error: http://deb.opera.com stable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 517590D9A8492E35 NO_PUBKEY 63F7D4AFF6D61D45
[10:51] <BBLLCC> MonkeyDust, how?
[10:51] <Ben64> eh... should maybe figure out why they're still in grub
[10:51] <BBLLCC> repos?
[10:52] <Ben64> hobbet1: you don't have the key for the opera repo you added
[10:55] <hobbet1> are you saying i have to add opera again to get the key ? im sorry i am new to lubuntu Ben64
[10:57] <Ben64> hobbet1: you added an opera repository, you didn't add the key
[10:58] <hobbet1> ahhh ok thank i get it now
[10:58] <BBLLCC> how do i get rid of outdated kenrels?
[10:59] <cfhowlett> BBLLCC, sudo apt-get autoremove if > ubuntu 14.04
[11:00] <BBLLCC> bash: ubuntu: Permission denied
[11:00] <vegombrei> what is a good player to play blu ray movies??
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !blueray | vegombrei
[11:01] <cfhowlett> BBLLCC, try this:  pkexec apt-get autoremove
[11:02] <hobbet1> Thanks Ben64 i got rid of it
[11:03] <BBLLCC> i have a problem with the repos, if I try to access em I get: ignoring invalid records in soruces.list file!
[11:04] <BBLLCC> E: Syntax error in line deb http://www.bunkus.org/ubuntu/trusty/ ./ #Bunkus vivid
[11:04] <BBLLCC> E: Syntax error in line deb http://www.bunkus.org/ubuntu/trusty/ ./ #Bunkus vivid
[11:04] <BBLLCC> E: Cannot read vendors.list file
[11:05] <ikonia> are they valid URLS ?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> bunkus?  what the ehy?
[11:05] <ikonia> looks pretty invalid to me
[11:06] <ikonia> don't know what ./ is all about
[11:06] <BBLLCC> what do I do?
[11:06] <AppAraat> hello, I read these docs - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports - but I didn't see anywhere how I could find out what version there is in the backports via apt(itude).
[11:07] <ikonia> BBLLCC: where did you ge these entries from ?
[11:07] <Love3> Are what valid URL's
[11:07] <BBLLCC> ikonia, dont know anymore
[11:07] <ikonia> delete them then
[11:09] <rondon> hello, guys... i'm using the xubuntu.. i have a problem here... I do not have the interrogation point, ( ?) .. because is on the letter W,  somebody can help me, please?
[11:09] <bekks> rondon: What does that mean?
[11:10] <cfhowlett> Rondom_, sounds like you might need to change keyboardsettings
[11:10] <cfhowlett> !keys | Rondom_
[11:10] <cfhowlett> rondon see ^^^
[11:11] <AppAraat> apt-cache search tmux/vivid-backports didn't yield any results sadly.
[11:13] <AppAraat> oh hmm, there doesn't appear to be too much backported packages - http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid-backports/allpackages?format=txt.gz
[11:13] <BBLLCC> i had to get rid of all these lines: deb http://www.bunkus.org/ubuntu/trusty/ #Bunkus vivid
[11:13] <BBLLCC> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid-security restricted multiverse universe main
[11:13] <BBLLCC> deb http://download.jitsi.org/nightly/deb unstable/ #Jitsi vivid
[11:13] <BBLLCC> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/videolan/stable-daily/ubuntu vivid main #Vlan vivid
[11:13] <BBLLCC> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-wine/ppa/ubuntu vivid main #Wine vivid
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> BBLLCC  use !pastebin for multiple lines
[11:19] <SnaggleAway> If someone here has libqt5gui5 installed, can you tell me which libraries are linked to by each of the files in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/plugins/platforms/libq*.so ?  Thanks
[11:21] <Ben64> SnaggleAway: what are you trying to accomplish
[11:22] <SnaggleAway> Ben64: I'm on OS X, and I'm trying to compare the linkage of libqcocoa.so to the equivalent plugins that get installed in Linux.
[11:22] <Ben64> not really on topic here
[11:22] <SnaggleAway> It's an Ubuntu question.
[11:22] <Ben64> it isn't
[11:23] <SnaggleAway> How isn't getting info about an Ubuntu package not an Ubuntu question?
[11:24] <Ben64> enjoy. http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libqt5gui5
[11:24] <SnaggleAway> Ben64: that doesn't tell me the libraries that are linked to by the plugins.  Only tells me the dependencies of the package
[11:25] <Ben64> this channel is for ubuntu issues only, not comparing stuff between osx and ubuntu. feel free to download the package and do whatever you want with it
[11:26] <SnaggleAway> Duly noted.  I can't ask questions about how Ubuntu is set up in #ubuntu.
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> SnaggleAway  if it's a general linux question, better ask in ##linux
[11:42] <sammyg> hello! what does it take to display binary prefixes in ubuntu? is it at all possible to switch without reinventing ubuntu? i mean is it a lot more involved than just a simple bit flip?
[11:43] <sammyg> currently the way ubuntu 15.04 is set up it displays decimal prefixes, both in the installed instance of the system and during initial installation
[11:43] <sammyg> decimal prefixes are ok, but i like binary prefixes better
[11:44] <BBLLCC> i still dont know why my installation doesnt update to the newest kernel 3.19
[11:44] <BBLLCC> i have 3.16 now
[11:44] <BBLLCC> 15.04
[11:44] <BBLLCC> 64bits
[11:45] <johan__> hi
[11:58] <geirha> BBLLCC: make sure the package named linux-image-generic is installed
[11:58] <geirha> it should depend on the latest kernel
[11:59] <BBLLCC> geirha, repo?
[11:59] <geirha> main
[11:59] <KlausedSource> I have a big problem: I deleted and locked the rootpassword, but forgot to add my user to wheel/sudo group and now the system is locked. is there a way to gain root access (from locally)
[12:00] <Ben64> KlausedSource: you can add your user to the sudo group from the recovery mode... and there is no 'wheel' group in ubuntu
[12:00] <BBLLCC> it is already installed
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !root | KlausedSource
[12:00] <Ben64> BBLLCC: please pastebin "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"
[12:01] <geirha> BBLLCC: Ok, what does apt-cahce show linux-image-generic output?
[12:01] <geirha> apt-cache show linux-image-generic # typoed cache
[12:01] <KlausedSource> Ben64, how do I get in there? I'm running this on my raspberry pi (so there is no grub)
[12:01] <Ben64> then just pop the sd card out and into another computer
[12:01] <moses> should i be running ssh into every ubuntu OS i have?
[12:01] <KlausedSource> Ben64, what am I going to do then?
[12:02] <geirha> moses: compared to what?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> moses  start from the beginning, what are you doing
[12:02] <moses> I have 2 pcs
[12:02] <Ben64> KlausedSource: can manually add your user to the sudo group
[12:02] <KlausedSource> given I would have an sd-card reader at hand...
[12:02] <moses> laptop
[12:02] <BBLLCC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11825742/
[12:02] <OliPicard> aas
[12:02] <moses> and desktop, I was wondering if I should put an ssh server onto both of them to take information from the back and forth?
[12:02] <KlausedSource> Ben64, ahh good Idea
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> moses  use openssh-server and openssh-client
[12:03] <geirha> BBLLCC: So that depends on a 3.19 version
[12:03] <BBLLCC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11825745/
[12:03] <geirha> BBLLCC: So that suggests it is intalled, so maybe it's the boot loader that needs to be told to boot the newer one
[12:03] <moses> ummm can you take data from an ssh client onto your pc?
[12:03] <moses> or do you need ftp only for that
[12:04] <BBLLCC> geirha, how do I do that? why are all those old kernels still there?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> moses  you can use rsync
[12:04] <bugtraq> I just came to warn everyone, that you guys are in danger.
[12:04] <bugtraq> anyone connected , is willing to get hacked.
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !fud | bugtraq,
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> bugtraq  thank you, glad to have people like you
[12:05] <bugtraq> so who will be my first victim.?
[12:05] <Ben64> BBLLCC: if i were you i'd start removing those old ones
[12:05] <cfhowlett> bugtraq, go play somewhere else please
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> bugtraq  wrong channel
[12:05] <moses> MonkeyDust: this looks quite promising
[12:05] <Ben64> BBLLCC: i'm really wondering why grub is loading the old one though
[12:05] <bugtraq> Play?
[12:06] <bugtraq> No! Son I'm just bored.
[12:06] <Ben64> bugtraq: this channel is for ubuntu support only, if you want to continue being silly, you can do that in #ubuntu-offtopic , but the guidelines still apply there.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[12:06] <cfhowlett> bugtraq, and now you're ignored.
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> bugtraq  tip: switch off you pc, go outside
[12:07] <moses> can you only use rsync to go from the ssh login to your comp?
[12:07] <rajkane> 😃
[12:07] <bugtraq> cfhowlett, MonkeyDust, Ben64, real names are:
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> moses  no, rsync is similar to cp
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> bugtraq  this is the ubuntu support channel, confine yourself to support questions
[12:09] <bugtraq> For someone who gives support to others..Answer the question yourself, why was Ubuntu, created in the first place?
[12:10] <bugtraq> exitting. Reroute::sErveR;
[12:13] <hello_world> ...
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> moses  use ssh like this: ssh remote_username@remote_ip
[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:25] <tiblock> Hi. I use ubuntu 12.04 x64 and I want to use "vsftpd" but i'm on VPS and i have only 210-220 ports for incoming connctions, but vsftpd want use ports 8000+ for PASV mode. I try to set pasv_min_port=210 pasv_max_port=220 but he is ignoring it
[12:26] <tiblock> if i se ports to 50000-50010 then he is not ignoring them, but i do not have access to that ports
[12:26] <tiblock> *if i set
[12:28] <TJ-> tiblock: That doesn't sound like a VPS (Virtual Private Server) to me, it sounds like Shared Hosting
[12:28] <Ben64> tiblock: only root can listen on ports <1024 but that sounds like a terrible vps. and ftp is old and bad and not good and not secure
[12:28] <tiblock> Ben64, i am root
[12:29] <tiblock> Ben64, i listen on 201 for FTP connections and it is working. Until PASV asked
[12:29] <Ben64> maybe not use ftp then
[12:29] <tiblock> Ben64, great solution =\
[12:30] <Ben64> it really is, ftp is bad
[12:30] <tiblock> i will solve this
[12:30] <TJ-> Ben64: vsvtfd is the Very Secure FTP daemon and is the default provider of ftp-server virtual package
[12:31] <tiblock> TJ-, it's OpenVZ container
[12:31] <Ben64> sftp is better in every way
[12:32] <TJ-> tiblock: I thought so, not a VPS then.  I'm not sure why the daemon would ignore the port settings *if* the daemon is starting as root *and* not dropping privileges until after opening the ports
[12:32] <Ben64> pasv_min_port — Specifies the lowest possible port sent to the FTP clients for passive mode connections. This setting is used to limit the port range so that firewall rules are easier to create. The default value is 0, which does not limit the lowest passive port range. The value must not be lower 1024.
[12:33] <tiblock> TJ-, i look in htop and he is running from root
[12:33] <moses> does rsync just move files around?
[12:33] <temroa> guys hi
[12:34] <Ben64> moses: it can do many things, transferring files in all sorts of ways
[12:34] <TJ-> tiblock: someone didn't read his documentation :)
[12:34] <temroa> i have a problem
[12:34] <temroa> can anyone help ?
[12:34] <Ben64> not if you don't ask a question
[12:35] <temroa> :(
[12:35] <tiblock> TJ-, is "man 5 vsftpd.conf" counting as documentation? Because there is no line about 1024
[12:35] <temroa> its very easy but my knowledge is not enough
[12:35] <temroa> i've a laptop with mt7630e wifi card
[12:35] <temroa> i've running ubuntu 14.04.1 lts now
[12:36] <temroa> and installed official 3.14 driver
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> temroa  let's hear it
[12:36] <tiblock> TJ-, here is man https://i.imgur.com/i81EyxG.png
[12:36] <temroa> here is the driver
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> temroa  put your question in one line, that's easier to read and repeat
[12:36] <Ben64> tiblock: why not just use sftp
[12:37] <temroa> wifi function is lost after reboot after install
[12:37] <tiblock> Ben64, it is slower because it is "Secure"
[12:37] <Ben64> negligibly slower
[12:37] <temroa> and when wifi is on it shows wifi is off by hardware switch
[12:37] <temroa> but i can correct it with a command
[12:37] <TJ-> tiblock: which Ubuntu release are you using?
[12:38] <temroa> but wifi function drops after reboot
[12:38] <tiblock> TJ-, ubuntu 12 x64. I will download sources of vsftpd and edit them to use <1024 ports.
[12:38] <Ben64> hah
[12:39] <TJ-> tiblock: Do the clients need FTP protocol access; if not sftp configured with a chroot jail group may be a viable alternative
[12:39] <temroa> monkeydust are you there
[12:39] <tiblock> TJ-, now its like challenge to me. I must win this battle
[12:39] <TJ-> tiblock: I can see the Ubuntu man-pages for 12.04 and 14.04 have no mention of the 1024 limit: see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man5/vsftpd.conf.5.html
[12:39] <penguser> I really hate ubuntu now.... libreoffice doesn't work
[12:40] <penguser> I cannot close this program and there is no name in terminal to kill the process....what a joke
[12:40] <TJ-> Ben64: where did you find that documentation?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> temroa  yes
[12:41] <penguser> does anyone know the process ID for libreoffice?!?
[12:41] <Ben64> TJ-: googled vsftpd pasv and 1024
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> penguser  in a terminal, type   ps -e   to find out
[12:42] <TJ-> Ben64: Looks like someone updated recent documentation to match the code :)
[12:43] <penguser> I googled...figured it out
[12:43] <penguser> but, my libre office default layout every time I open a new document is still screwed up
[12:43] <TJ-> tiblock: See privops.c::vsf_privop_pasv_listen() ... and "min_port = 1024"
[12:43] <temroa> if ı want to whisper someone should i use this command right ? /w
[12:43] <penguser> there's a margin on the left I didn't put there
[12:44] <Thefirstnizza> Does anyone know whether http://elementary.io/ is a trusted source?
[12:45] <Ben64> tiblock: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[12:45] <Ben64> Thefirstnizza: not supported here
[12:46] <temroa> any help ?
[12:46] <BBLLCC> so how do I enter grub to get rid of all unnecessary kernels and boot to the newest one?
[12:46] <Thefirstnizza> ok. Do you have advise for a alternative? I use OSX now.
[12:46] <Ben64> BBLLCC: you don't do it from grub, you do it from ubuntu. sudo apt-get purge <package>
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Thefirstnizza  what brings you here
[12:47] <Ben64> Thefirstnizza: this is #ubuntu so... it's likely people will suggest ubuntu
[12:47] <temroa> hey
[12:47] <temroa> im facing with a problem
[12:47] <temroa> cant anyone help ?
[12:47] <Ben64> !patience | temroa
[12:48] <Thefirstnizza> MonkeyDust: Just wanted to live-cd with opensuse, but it had no comfort. Then i googled for a alternative to boot from my macbook, and found this "distro".
[12:48] <temroa> the wireless driver i installed is this http://www.mediatek.com/en/downloads1/downloads/mt7630-pcie/ but after installing and rebooting wifi funtion is lost
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> Thefirstnizza  so you're loking for a suitable distro? http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[12:49] <temroa> and when installed it shows wifi is turned off by hardware switch
[12:50] <moses> ok questiomn
[12:50] <moses> I have 1 file
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> moses  in ine line please
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> one*
[12:51] <moses> I edit it a lot, I have it on a remote server. How can i keep this file up to date without editing it in the terminal?
[12:51] <ioria> temroa, you can try this, read docs first, https://github.com/kuba-moo/mt7630e
[12:52] <Ben64> moses: not sure what you mean. you want to edit it without editing it?
[12:52] <RogueYun> I'm trying to boot Ubuntu from a USB flash drive on my ASUS ROG. I made a bootable flash drive using YUMI from pendrivelinux.com I've turned off secure boot control and changed the boot order... but it won't boot :(
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> moses  i was thinking the same thing as Ben64
[12:52] <moses> I want to edit it using an editor on my machine but save it on this fileserver I have
[12:53] <moses> when I go between different machines be able to grab and edit this file
[12:53] <Ben64> mount the server locally
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> moses  then mount it locally and edit with whatever you like
[12:53] <BluesKaj> moses, edit the file copy on your pc, then rsync it with that file on the server
[12:53] <moses> im not sure
[12:54] <moses> woops, im not sure I have permission to mount it locally
[12:54] <Ben64> why wouldn't you
[12:55] <RogueYun> Does anyone have any suggestions for the problem I have mentioned above?
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> RogueYun  hit the up arrow to repeat it
[12:56] <RogueYun> I'm trying to boot Ubuntu from a USB flash drive on my ASUS ROG. I made a bootable flash drive using YUMI from pendrivelinux.com I've turned off secure boot control and changed the boot order... but it won't boot :(
[12:56] <Ben64> RogueYun: we can't really help you out with YUMI, maybe check the md5sum of the iso to make sure it is good though
[12:56] <RogueYun> Ben64: I don't think it is a problem with yumi to be honest.
[12:56] <Ben64> then what do you think
[12:57] <RogueYun> Ben64: It has something to do with the bios.
[12:57] <moses> MonkeyDust: NFS mount?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> RogueYun  bios is not ubuntu related
[12:58] <RogueYun> MonkeyDust: I'll try my usb flash on another computer just to make sure it works.
[12:59] <cinaed> Is there an equivalent IRC channel for Lubuntu? I need to discuss a problem I'm having.
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> moses  in nautilus, click File > connect to server ... or use gigolo
[12:59] <TJ-> RogueYun: Is the Asus ROG a UEFI system? Does yumi put both Legacy and UEFI boot loader code on the USB? Are you bootin the ROG in the matching mode? these are a few of the fundamental questions to ask
[12:59] <EriC^^> RogueYun: is the usb first in the boot order for uefi?
[13:00] <EriC^^> RogueYun: also you might be able to access a boot options menu when you first boot the pc, pressing esc might help
[13:01] <cinaed> #lubuntu - installed some games cannot uninstall. Still show uninstalled in Lubuntu software center
[13:02] <shbm_> hello
[13:02] <shbm_> A noob here!
[13:02] <shbm_> First Time
[13:02] <shbm_> Quit
[13:04] <RogueYun> EriC^^: TJ-: Thanks for the response, these things a are a little beyond me. I'm used to putting the USB first in the boot order and launching my OS from a USB. I'm not sure about this UEFI stuff.
[13:04] <loris> ciao
[13:06] <tiblock> 227 Entering Passive Mode (130,255,188,231,0,213).
[13:06] <EriC^^> RogueYun: which os is the pc using right now?
[13:07] <tiblock> TJ-, Ben64, I won! 227 Entering Passive Mode (xxx,xxx,xxx,xxx,0,213).
[13:07] <tiblock> oh
[13:07] <tiblock> i pasted server's ip
[13:07] <RogueYun> EriC^^: Windows 8.1
[13:07] <RogueYun> Yucky :(
[13:07] <TJ-> RogueYun: It's the most fundamental issue after hardware support. If the device is attempting to boot in UEFI mode and the USB image only contains a BIOS boot image, then it might fail.
[13:07] <tiblock> TJ-, thank you for  privops.c
[13:07] <EriC^^> RogueYun: did you disable fastboot?
[13:08] <RogueYun> EriC^^: Yeah
[13:08] <EriC^^> RogueYun: did you try a different usb port?
[13:08] <TJ-> RogueYun: *but* ... most UEFI provide a legacy boot support mode via the CSM (Compatibility Support Module) but it can often be disabled in the firmware setup
[13:09] <EriC^^> my money's on the usb port
[13:09]  * TJ- sneaks off with the USB port :)
[13:09] <RogueYun> TJ-: I'm not sure UEFI is set up on my computer... I think it's still BIOS
[13:09] <EriC^^> RogueYun: was win8 preinstalled?
[13:09] <RogueYun> EriC^^: Yes
[13:10] <EriC^^> it's most likely uefi, if you have secureboot then it's uefi
[13:10]  * MonkeyDust sneks off with the money
[13:10] <EriC^^> did you see any csm legacy enabled in the bios?
[13:10] <RogueYun> EriC^^: I'm not sure what csm legacy is :(
[13:11] <EriC^^> RogueYun: ok, reboot the pc, try a different usb port, also try pressing esc to get a boot options menu for uefi, and check the bios to see if uefi is enabled etc.
[13:12] <RogueYun> Should I disable uefi if I see it?
[13:12] <EriC^^> no
[13:12] <EriC^^> just disable fastboot
[13:12] <Dev-gitter> hi, can't open keyboard layout into system settings -> keyboard after install gnome new version (my ubuntu 15.04 amd64)
[13:12] <RogueYun> EriC^^: Okay, I believe it is already disabled, but  I'll do that and report back here.
[13:12] <EriC^^> ok
[13:14] <Dev-gitter> hi, can't open keyboard layout into system settings -> keyboard after install gnome new version (my ubuntu 15.04 amd64)
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> Dev-gitter  it isnt there, or you can't open it?
[13:16] <Dev-gitter> MonkeyDust, yes can't open it
[13:16] <Dev-gitter> MonkeyDust, and can't switch keyboard layout
[13:17] <RogueYun> EriC^^: I'm back! The "Legacy CSM " is disabled as well as "Fast Boot" the boot order is correct, I didn't see anything that said UEFI but some things that said "BIOS Information"
[13:17] <EriC^^> RogueYun: great, did you try pressing esc, or trying a different usb port
[13:18] <RogueYun> EriC^^: both
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> Dev-gitter  i have similar keyboard issues in 14.04 ... workaround: use this command to change the layout ... sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[13:18] <EriC^^> RogueYun: which laptop do you have? can you easily try the usb on another pc?
[13:18] <EriC^^> RogueYun: which distro are you trying to install?
[13:19] <RogueYun> EriC^^: I have the Asus ROG g46VW, I have tried the USB on another computer and it seems to boot fine.
[13:19] <Dev-gitter> MonkeyDust, used your idea command but not work and again config
[13:21] <Dev-gitter> MonkeyDust, bug -> gnome-settings-daemon and center-control after boot and load desktop
[13:21] <Folas> Hey everyone. I tried this on a virtual machine and it worked just fine: https://blog.manhim.net/2015/01/live-streaming-using-a-computer-and-a-ubuntu-server-to-twitch-tv/
[13:21] <Folas> Now I want to make that happen on my vps but it fails installing build-essential.
[13:21] <Folas> When I'm trying to install all the packages it gives me these errors: http://pastebin.com/xHwSqetN
[13:22] <EriC^^> RogueYun: does the other pc have uefi enabled?
[13:22] <shbm_> .
[13:22] <RogueYun> EriC^^: I wouldn't think so...
[13:22] <EriC^^> RogueYun: ok, try making the live usb using linux live usb creator
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> Folas  is that with virtualbox or vmware, or soemthing else?
[13:23] <TJ-> Folas: is it a VPS or just a Container, like OpenVZ ?
[13:23] <Folas> I was doing it on virtualbox just fine. Now I'm trying on my vps :)
[13:24] <Folas> TJ-: I can't tell for sure. I'm renting it from hetzner.de :/
[13:25] <Folas> TJ-: But I assume it's an actual VPS.
[13:28] <Folas> Are there any ideas what I could do/try? I've googled pretty much every error but all they said was "do apt-get update" or try with "aptitude" instead but nothing worked :(
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Folas, try apt-get upgrade :-)
[13:32] <Folas> BluesKaj: I haven't really understood what "apt-get upgrade" does.. Could you explain real quick before I screw up everything on the server? :D
[13:32] <Folas> Just googled it, should be safe to use...
[13:32] <Folas> http://askubuntu.com/questions/94102/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-get-update-and-upgrade :3
[13:33] <Folas> BluesKaj: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:33] <BluesKaj> apt-get update chooses the packages that are ready to be upgraded, apt-get upgrade installs said packages, Folas
[13:33] <Folas> Thanks BluesKaj but see above :D
[13:34] <BluesKaj> if you have 0 packages updated then all your packages are up to date
[13:34] <BluesKaj> and don't need upgrading
[13:35] <Folas> That doesn't sound bad but didn't solve my problem :/
[13:36] <Folas> I'm also reading that "dist-upgrade" might be needed... Should I actually try that or am I better off without it? :/
[13:36] <Folas> BluesKaj: ^
[13:36] <BluesKaj> Folas, I joined too late to see your question/issue
[13:36] <Folas> I'll repeat, sec
[13:36] <Folas> Hey everyone. I tried this on a virtual machine and it worked just fine: https://blog.manhim.net/2015/01/live-streaming-using-a-computer-and-a-ubuntu-server-to-twitch-tv/
[13:36] <Folas>  Now I want to make that happen on my vps but it fails installing build-essential.
[13:36] <Folas> When I'm trying to install all the packages it gives me these errors: http://pastebin.com/xHwSqetN
[13:37] <TJ-> Folas: That Ubuntu release is way too old if it wants to install g++ 4.4.3 !!
[13:37] <Folas> TJ-: What version do I need for g++ 4.4.3?
[13:38] <TJ-> Folas: oh, hang on, my mistake, it's a >=   not = ... which is in Precise/12.04 ... is the Ubuntu release 12.04 ?
[13:40] <Folas> TJ-: It's been a while since I reinstalled... How do I find the version real quick? :/
[13:40] <TJ-> Folas: "cat /etc/issue" or "lsb_release -r"
[13:41] <TJ-> Folas: Looking at your pastebin, you have some package version conflicts: "libpcre3 (= 1:8.30-5) but 2:8.35-6" and "libssl1.0.0 (= 1.0.1e-2+deb7u17) but 1.0.2c-1 " which suggests you have a mixture of source.list and packages from different releases
[13:42] <Folas> bash: lsb_release: command not found
[13:42] <Folas> TJ-: Aha... I should check the source.list I guess...
[13:44] <TJ-> Folas: that looks like you've got a Debian install, not Ubuntu
[13:44] <OerHeks> VPN's are mostly heavily tweaked, " cat /etc/issue  " should tell you the version
[13:44] <exhuma> Hi... I think I have a problem with a remote server: I ran do-release-upgrade (inside tmux), and suddenly lost the connection. Now it refuses my login (incorrect password). But I am sure the password is correct...
[13:44] <OerHeks> !root | Guest91537
[13:45] <exhuma> any ideas?
[13:45] <OerHeks> !ircroot
[13:45] <Folas> TJ-: But debian doesn't use apt-get, does it?
[13:45] <Folas> TJ-: "uname -a" gives me this: "Linux <myDomain>.com 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:45] <TJ-> Folas: See, Debian!
[13:46] <Folas> Hm... I might have been stupid then :/ TJ-: Can I still get nginx to work somehow then?
[13:46] <TJ-> Folas: You need to figure out what you're working with first, it looks like the system is in an unstable state. Ask in #debian
[13:46] <Folas> It is debian... I must have forgot we switched at some point, sorry bro.
[13:47] <Folas> TJ-: Alright, big thanks so far then.
[13:47] <Folas> Sorry for that x_x
[13:47] <Johnny_Linux> that will be 5 paypal certificates and 6 beers
[13:49] <BBLLCC> can a system become unstable for having like 30 kernels?
[13:50] <TJ-> BBLLCC: It might run out of disk space :)
[13:50] <BBLLCC> can this number of kernels influence grub so that it doesnt load the latest?
[13:51] <TJ-> BBLLCC: "update-grub" scans all the installed kernels and adds an entry for each to its /boot/grub/grub.cfg menu
[13:51] <RogueYun> EriC^^: LiLi worked Thanks a million!
[13:52] <TJ-> BBLLCC: that list is sorted by the kernel version naming, with (generally) the latest kernel version listed first. Also, GRUB's default is to boot from the 1st entry in the list
[13:52] <mike745> hello,got a linux based avermedia tv network box.telnet port is open,cant establish telnet connection,any idea?
[13:53] <TJ-> mike745: how are you trying to get the connection? "telnet <ip-address> <port>" ?
[13:53] <BBLLCC> then i dont understand my machine
[13:54] <TJ-> BBLLCC: read /boot/grub/grub.cfg see which entry is first in the list... also look at the "set default =XX" statements
[13:55] <tokam> after updating to ubuntu 15.10 my gnome session fallback desktop does not load anymore
[13:55] <tokam> 15.4
[13:56] <BBLLCC> how do I boot grub while loading the machine?
[13:56] <mike745> yes,like this,but this error appears: Connection closed by foreign hos
[14:00] <a__> maybe iptable close the connect, you can use nmap to scan other ports.
[14:04] <drose379> Guys I have my user added to the www-data group. I set the directory owner to www-data
[14:04] <drose379> But when I try to scp from local to VPS, im getting permission denied
[14:05] <mike745> did you set destinations permission to rw?
[14:05] <drose379> Not sure
[14:06] <drose379> drwxr-xr-x
[14:07] <mike745> chmod 777 -R pathtofolder ,after it chmod 755
[14:08] <drose379> Ok one sec
[14:08] <boodllebat> hello any ubuntu official , i wanna talk about paste.ubuntu.com , does it support chunked http POST cause i'm trying but its not working
[14:09] <drose379> mike745 I ran the chmod
[14:09] <drose379> Now you want me to run chmod 755?
[14:09] <phoenix__> hi
[14:09] <mike745> did you try it,how it works?
[14:10] <drose379> mike745 here is the folder permissions now drwxr-sr-x
[14:10] <drose379> is that correct?
[14:10] <drose379> mike745 im still getting Permission Denied
[14:11] <phoenix__> Could Anyone help me with TV-Tuner sound?
[14:11] <mike745> do you have root privileges?
[14:11] <drose379> yeah I used suod
[14:11] <drose379> sudo
[14:11] <drose379> Well, my user doesnt. I have to use sudo
[14:12] <mike745> when you copy the files or when you try to run?
[14:12] <drose379> both
[14:13] <supersmile> hi
[14:15] <drose379> mike745 if I set it to 777 it works
[14:15] <mike745> yes,it should
[14:15] <mike745> is it webserver?
[14:16] <touhid> hi
[14:16] <drose379> mike 754 yes
[14:16] <drose379> sorry mike745
[14:17] <daniel__> hola
[14:17] <mike745> any idea how to gain aces to my tvbox?
[14:17] <daniel__> .... español?
[14:17] <mike745> si
[14:17] <Pici> !es | daniel__
[14:17] <daniel__> join #ubuntu-es
[14:17] <daniel__>  /join #ubuntu-es
[14:18] <drose379> \/
[14:18] <drose379> \/join
[14:18] <drose379> oops
[14:21] <sadero> oui oui
[14:22] <ricard> xmp is possible with up to 1600mhz memory cpu although now only supports 1333MHz to 1400MHz but I have not got xmp
[14:23] <OerHeks> ricard, good. ( you know it is not ubuntu related)
[14:24] <drose379> wtf, just ran some clean up with bleachbit and lost 2Gb of memory
[14:24] <SergioEDuran1> Helo
[14:24] <SergioEDuran1> Pardon me but somebody can help me?
[14:24] <OerHeks> !language | drose379 please
[14:25] <OerHeks> SergioEDuran1, just ask
[14:25] <SergioEDuran1> I got a segfault by opening  Empathy
[14:25] <SergioEDuran1> https://gist.github.com/sergioad/5dedc1b4026c4dfa0a35
[14:25] <SergioEDuran1> could you help me with that?
[14:25] <OerHeks> SergioEDuran1, that are normal warnings, when you open a gui program tru terminal.
[14:25] <OerHeks> ignore them
[14:26] <SergioEDuran1> And what about the segfault at the end of the list?
[14:26] <SergioEDuran1> Empathy does not opens
[14:29] <ricard> xmp is possible with up to 1600mhz memory cpu although now only supports 1333MHz to 1400MHz but I have not got xmptell me please
[14:30] <OerHeks> SergioEDuran1, if connecting keeps failing, clean empathy and try again ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/9089/where-are-all-my-empathy-settings-stored
[14:32] <SergioEDuran1> OerHeks the issue is that does not appears the empathy window nor it's icon on the messaging menu
[14:32] <SergioEDuran1> you know a typical segfaullt
[14:33] <SergioEDuran1> hehe it is anoying btw
[14:34] <OerHeks> why do you start empaty from therminal, anyway ?
[14:34] <SergioEDuran1> because it does not opens
[14:34] <SergioEDuran1> the windows does not appears
[14:35] <SergioEDuran1> so I know that when a program has a segfault the best form to report it is getting the prompt on the terminal
[14:36] <OerHeks> So what happens when you clean empathy, start all over and add account again ?
[14:36] <ricard> Chances are 1600mhz memory up to xmp if only holds 1333mhz cpu now I have to 1400MHz but I have no memory xmp
[14:36] <OerHeks> ricard, good. ( you know it is not ubuntu related)
[14:37] <SergioEDuran1> Let me see
[14:37] <OerHeks> You might need to logout after removal, and login agian
[14:38] <boodllebat> is there any ubuntu development group ?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !contribute | boodllebat
[14:39] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: no i was talking about ubuntu development irc group
[14:39] <OerHeks> mostly on launchpad, boodllebat
[14:40] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, #ubuntu-devel
[14:40] <OerHeks> and #ubuntu-app-devel
[14:40] <boodllebat> cfhowlett: i have query regarding paste.ubuntu.com , does it support chunked http post cause i'm trying but it does not work accordingly , OerHeks
[14:40] <SergioEDuran1> Same result OerHeks
[14:41] <cfhowlett> boodllebat, sorry, no idea on that issue
[14:41] <OerHeks> SergioEDuran1, then last resort: remove and purge empathy and install again ?
[14:42] <SergioEDuran1> Ok
[14:43] <sloantothebone> Hi
[14:43] <sloantothebone> I'm trying to run a unity3d game on facebook, can anybody help me? I have unity enabled on wine-pipelight, should I enable x64-unity3d?
[14:43] <lala> Should I use this tutorial (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan) to set up Wake-On-Lan for my Ubuntu Server 14.04.2 LTS?
[14:44] <sloantothebone> lala: looks legit
[14:45] <lala> sloantothebone: Thanks.
[14:45] <lala> I'll try it.
[14:45] <sloantothebone> lala: No prob
[14:46] <sloantothebone> I'm trying to run a unity3d game on facebook, can anybody help me? I have unity enabled on wine-pipelight, should I enable x64-unity3d?
[14:49] <lala> sloantothebone: In the tutorial, it shows `iface eth0 inet static`, but when running `cat /etc/network/interfaces` I see `iface eth0 inet dhcp`. Does this mean my local IP address on my network is dynamic and not static? Does this mean it can change? I've been using 192.168.1.120 but I don't know how to make it static.
[14:49] <Novice201y> Hi. I cannot update 15.04 cause proble with 3rh party package: linux-image-extra-3.19.0-16-generic . How can I remove it (like hint from Ubuntu says)?
[14:51] <sloantothebone> lala: Umm, I think you have to get into the router to make your ip address static, cuz once we had a problem with our wireless printer and Samsung guy got into the router and made the ip for the printer static
[14:51] <sloantothebone> lala: I'm googling about this
[14:53] <sloantothebone> https://www.linode.com/docs/networking/linux-static-ip-configuration
[14:54] <sloantothebone> Ah heres a wikihow article lala
[14:54] <lala> sloantothebone: Okie dokie. I'll check it.
[14:54] <sloantothebone> http://www.wikihow.com/Assign-an-IP-Address-on-a-Linux-Computer
[14:54] <thatkid> How can I open this window through command line? http://www.maketecheasier.com/assets/uploads/2014/03/ubuntu-two-monitors.jpg
[14:57] <Novice201y> How can I check which installed app comes from suse.org repo?
[14:58] <ubuntu090> Novice201y: If you have used suse in ubuntu you have a bad mistake
[14:58] <cfhowlett> Novice201y, NO ubuntu apps should be coming from suse!
[14:59] <Jusic> no, there are universal suse repos
[14:59] <Novice201y> OK, but do You know answer for my question?
[14:59] <Jusic> e.g. owncloud uses them for all distros
[14:59] <ubuntu090> Jusic: this is ubuntu support you are incorrect.
[14:59] <sloantothebone> I'm trying to run a unity3d game on facebook, can anybody help me? I have unity enabled on wine-pipelight, should I enable x64-unity3d?
[15:00] <sloantothebone> I enabled x64-unity3d and its still not working
[15:00] <Novice201y> ubuntu090, So, if it's Ubuntu's support, then how to check which app comes from suse.org on this installment?
[15:00] <ubuntu090> Novice201y: This is not suse support
[15:00] <Jusic> ubuntu090: no I'm not... there are suse repositorys for ubuntu...
[15:00] <Novice201y> ubuntu090, It's Ubuntu's case, not Suse's.
[15:00] <ubuntu090> Novice201y: I wont help you anyway.
[15:00] <Jusic> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:/ownCloud:/community/xUbuntu_14.04/
[15:01] <Jusic> suse provides something similar to PPAs which can be used for all distros including ubuntu
[15:01] <bazhang> Jusic, thats simply not supported here
[15:01] <n0vacane> :)
[15:01] <ubuntu090> Jusic: Your rhetoric is weak, anyone can run anything they want, however this channel has suport limitations.
[15:02] <Novice201y> OK, so let me ask similiar question: how to check from which repo does specific app come from?
[15:02] <Jusic> I don't need support. I'm just proving you wrong
[15:02] <Novice201y> Guys, it's OK.
[15:02] <Jusic> Novice201y: as far as I know you can't
[15:02] <bazhang> lets take the chit chat elsewhere please
[15:02] <ubuntu090> Jusic: No you are showing your limitated cognitive development.
[15:02] <cfhowlett> everyone: let's move on
[15:03] <bazhang> thats enough jusic
[15:07] <lala> How do I know if my system is configured with ifupdown?
[15:09] <lala> Oh hey bazhang. Lol. For a moment, I thought I was on the ##chat channel, and I tried switching over to #ubuntu, but it didn't work because this is the #ubuntu channel. Haha.
[15:11] <traekili> ifquery eth0
[15:12] <lala> Darn my "magic packet" didn't work.
[15:23] <ig0r_> what is the packet manager in Ubuntu called?
[15:24] <SchrodingersScat> !apt-get
[15:24] <traekili> package? apt
[15:24] <ubuntu090> ig0r_: More comprehensive https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/package-management.html
[15:26] <ig0r_> I want to uninstall software in ubuntu WITHOUT using the terminal. How do I do that?
[15:27] <cfhowlett> ig0r_, software center
[15:28] <ig0r_> I'm using software center right now but I can't find any uninstall option
[15:29] <AnimalFarmPig> On an Ubuntu Trusty server instance, I think one of my processes got killed by the oom killer. Which log file should I look in to verify?
[15:29] <ubuntu090> ig0r_: You might give overall description including the app.
[15:29] <AnimalFarmPig> I'm looking in /var/log/syslog, but all I see are dhcp and cron related stuff
[15:30] <jorge> hola alguien habla español
[15:31] <DJones> !es | jorge
[15:31] <jorge> gracias
[15:32] <ig0r_> If I for example would want to uninstall Thunderbird using the software center how do I do that?
[15:32] <cfhowlett> ig0r_, click on the secret button.            "install"
[15:34] <ubuntu090> ig0r_: Mine in 14.04 when clicked has a remove button.
[15:34] <DJones> ig0r_: Search for thunderbird in software centre, then click the remove button
[15:34] <cyberalex4life> ig0r_, actually it's "remove" :-P (after you search your app and click on it)
[15:35] <ig0r_> how do I uninstall other stuff like drivers and plugins?
[15:36] <AnimalFarmPig> ig0r_: what drivers do you want to uninstall and why? Drivers are typically included with the kernel and not something that you need to worry about
[15:37] <AnimalFarmPig> if there's a driver causing problems on your machine, you could add it to the module blacklist
[15:37] <ig0r_> AnimalFarmPig: I want to uninstall samba but maybe it's not a driver but a client
[15:38] <cyberalex4life> ig0r_, it would be: sudo apt-get autoremove samba
[15:38] <ig0r_> I'm not comfortable with the terminal. Is there a GUI method?
[15:38] <AnimalFarmPig> ig0r_: I'm not sure about using ubuntu software center, but if you install synaptic, you can pretty easily search for it and click the box next to it to remove
[15:39] <ubuntu090> ig0r_: In general be careful here samba no biggie and thunderbird, but many other stuff has dependencies.
[15:39] <ig0r_> AnimalFarmPig: "install synaptic" ?
[15:39] <zykotick9> cyberalex4life: "apt-get autoremove" is typically run by itself, does it work with packages as well...
[15:39] <AnimalFarmPig> ig0r_: synaptic is package management software. I like it a bit better than ubuntu software center.
[15:40] <AnimalFarmPig> you should be able to install it from ubuntu's software manager. Or from cli-- 'apt-get install synaptic'
[15:40] <ig0r_> ok I'll try that. thanks!
[15:40] <cyberalex4life> ig0r_, sudo apt-get install synaptic . In time you'll learn that for some stuff terminal is quicker and safer, for others synaptic
[15:41] <cyberalex4life> zykotick9, yes: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge <package> will remove the package and all the other packages that aren't dependencies (for that package or others)
[15:42] <AnimalFarmPig> and also remove config files
[15:42] <cyberalex4life> zykotick9, though you may wanna be carefull when using it (sometimes removes much more when being used on multiple packages at once)
[15:42] <AnimalFarmPig> (the --purge)
[15:44] <ioria>  ☺
[15:44] <cyberalex4life> AnimalFarmPig, the --purge deletes also system settings (like /etc/apache2/apache2.conf  which are not removed with autoremove - it may be dangerous)
[15:44] <AnimalFarmPig> Removing stuff that's in the default install seems like a bad idea for newbies, imo. If you installed software and it wasn't good, okay, makes sense. But, stuff that's in the default install is usually expected to be there
[15:44] <AnimalFarmPig> cyberalex4life: yep, that's what I meant by config files
[15:45] <cyberalex4life> oh !
[15:46] <AnimalFarmPig> It's useful if you've managed to somehow misconfigure something into a totally broken state and want to nuke it from orbit :)
[15:46] <cyberalex4life> AnimalFarmPig, if you don't try you never know in the end... I remove some stuff here and there
[15:47] <cyberalex4life> kind of: bumblebee, you can also fix things with --reinstall (but has some limitations from what I've seen)
[15:48] <cyberalex4life> some things don't get fixed if you don't remove the "damaged" setting
[15:48] <AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I remove stuff as well, but I've been using linux for a while. Folks just coming from Windows and used to computers coming pre-installed with a bunch of junk software may be in the mentality of "cleaning" the system after install, which is usually not necessary are more likely to result in a broken system than faster system
[15:48] <ubuntu090> we all have opinions but this is support
[15:49] <AnimalFarmPig> not sure if it's available on ubuntu, but dpkg-reconfigure was useful in the old days of static xorg.conf files
[15:49] <cyberalex4life> AnimalFarmPig, I usually clean stuff like accounts, single signon, unity-lenses and scopes players
[15:49] <privateNodez> word, some progs change the init scripts and ifup&down startup scripts that totally bork the system
[15:50] <jeffy123> Hey guys
[15:50] <privateNodez> dpkg-reconfigure still works and is prolly the best way of doing it still
[15:51] <AnimalFarmPig> cyberalex4life: yeah, seems like a solid choice. I don't run ubuntu on desktop, but I imagine I would do the same. With Debian's gnome desktop, I always uninstall "tracker" which is supposed to make searches better or something, but just makes the system run badly
[15:52] <cyberalex4life> AnimalFarmPig, I like tracker, it worked fine on Opensuse, but since I have problems with intel and nvidia, I decided to stop debugging for some time, stay on Ubuntu and just live my life
[15:52] <jeffy123_> Apologies, I'm back. Any way to resolve this problem?
[15:53] <AnimalFarmPig> So, in case anyone has shown up recently who knows, where would I look for logs of processes killed by the out of memory killer on a server running Trusty?
[15:54] <cyberalex4life> AnimalFarmPig, do you know at least it's name? It is a start
[15:54] <privateNodez> top has a way of checking programs that have been faulted out of memory
[15:54] <AnimalFarmPig> I had a rabbitmq instance running, and it suddenly disappeared. Trying to figure out what happened to it
[15:54] <privateNodez> including a pagefault count for each process
[15:54] <ubuntu090> AnimalFarmPig: Can you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic rather than filling the page.
[15:54] <privateNodez> you can also check /proc/<pid>
[15:54] <privateNodez> each pid dir should have a file with page faults
[15:55] <privateNodez> you can also try syslog but whether or not you'd find such a message there depends on the program
[15:56] <AnimalFarmPig> yeah, didn't see anything obvious in syslog
[15:57] <jeffy1337>  I'm having a little problem- I added a line of code to my setup.bash file & now the '$' sign in my terminal isn't working, how can I fix this?
[15:58] <jeffy1337> I sadly got disconnected last time
[15:58] <jeffy1337> Anyone know how I can fix it?
[15:59] <MidKnight> How do I make my own IRC chatrooom?
[15:59] <privateNodez> you mean the $ isn't displaying but you can still enter commands and get output?
[15:59] <jeffy1337> I can't do anything at all
[15:59] <privateNodez> just a black screen?
[15:59] <jeffy1337> Yes sir
[15:59] <jeffy1337> I need to remove a line from the setup.bash file but I need to do it as root & I have no idea how I can without terminal
[16:00] <jeffy1337> I'm using 14.04 atm
[16:00] <privateNodez> You might have to run in single user mode
[16:00] <jeffy1337> How do I do that?
[16:00] <jeffy1337> It's running in a virtual machine (VMware)
[16:01] <privateNodez> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[16:01] <jeffy1337> Thank you bud!
[16:02] <max12345> I have some old binaries in /usr/local/lib/ + /usr/local/bin/ how can I remove them safely?
[16:03] <privateNodez> jeffy1337: wait, have you tried using a different shell? sh, zsh, ksh or something first?
[16:03] <ioria> jeffy1337, you can't run gksu - gedit and edit the file ?
[16:03] <jeffy1337> Umm
[16:03] <jeffy1337> I don't think so
[16:04] <jeffy1337> I only have terminal & 2 others
[16:04] <jeffy1337> XTerm
[16:04] <jeffy1337> and another
[16:04] <jeffy1337> And they both have this problem as well
[16:04] <ioria> jeffy1337, alt-f2 and enter gksu
[16:05] <jeffy1337> I'm trying that right now & I see it under 'result' but I can't click on it at all
[16:05] <jeffy1337> I can hover over it but it just doesn't seem to work, I tried the alt + f2 option before I joined
[16:07] <privateNodez> jeffy1337: to get a shell up type "ALT+F4" and then run "xterm -e sh"
[16:07] <EriC^^> alt+f4 clsoes stuff
[16:07] <EriC^^> *closes
[16:07] <EriC^^> i think you mean alt+f2?
[16:08] <privateNodez> ALT+F2
[16:08] <privateNodez> my pad
[16:08] <privateNodez> bad
[16:08] <privateNodez> lmao
[16:08] <jeffy1337> Yes!
[16:08] <jeffy1337>  
[16:08] <EriC^^> :D
[16:08] <jeffy1337> I got it =D
[16:08] <privateNodez> nize
[16:09] <EriC^^> jeffy1337: are you using unity?
[16:09] <jeffy1337> Thank you!!!
[16:10] <publio> How can I get grub to find my kernel at boot?  It's stuck on a prompt.  I've tried mounting my encrypted drive and boot partition and reinstalling the kernel and grub via chroot.
[16:10] <EriC^^> publio: what's the error you're getting?
[16:11] <publio> nothing. It just boots to a grub prompt.  If I use the command 'boot' it says kernel not found
[16:11] <EriC^^> publio: ok, are you in a live usb right now?
[16:11] <publio> yea
[16:11] <EriC^^> k
[16:11] <EriC^^> did you decrypt your partition?
[16:11] <publio> i think the encryption is making this more difficult than usual
[16:11] <wtm_iphone> grub2 or legacy?
[16:12] <publio> 2
[16:12] <publio> I can decrypt
[16:12] <EriC^^> publio: ok, use sudo cryptsetup luksOpen ...
[16:12] <publio> oh I
[16:12] <publio> just did it from the gui
[16:12] <publio> it does the same thing i think
[16:12] <EriC^^> hmm
[16:12] <et09> my question - every time i click mailto: link (or xdg-open a mailto: link), it opens in chrome.  however i open gconf-editor, go to /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto, thunderbird is the thing listed.  wtf?
[16:13] <EriC^^> type sudo parted -l and paste it for us
[16:13] <publio> my drive is on /media/ubuntu/1... and the boot parition on /media/ubuntu/0...
[16:13] <EriC^^> publio: ok
[16:13] <EriC^^> publio: unmount the boot partition
[16:14] <EriC^^> and type sudo mount /dev/sdxY /media/ubuntu/12312312/boot
[16:14] <EriC^^> mount it at /boot
[16:14] <wtm_iphone> find --set-root /boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img
[16:14] <wtm_iphone> kernel /boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img
[16:15] <wtm_iphone> boot
[16:15] <publio> parted -l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826691/
[16:15] <wtm_iphone> can boot into grub2
[16:15] <publio> boot is on sda1
[16:15] <publio> the drive on sda5
[16:15] <EriC^^> publio: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/......./boot
[16:15] <publio> EriC^^: Im not sure what you mean by /dev/sdaxY
[16:15] <publio> oh the boot
[16:16] <publio> to.. media/1.. (the drive)
[16:16] <publio> i take it
[16:16] <EriC^^> uh hu
[16:17] <publio> done
[16:17] <EriC^^> publio: k, type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /media/.....137864$i; done
[16:17] <publio> ive also usually mounted /dev, /sys, /proc to /mnt/dev.
[16:18] <EriC^^> publio: you did sudo mount -B /dev /media/ubuntu/1312312312/dev ?
[16:18] <publio> wait $i after 1..?
[16:18] <EriC^^> publio: yah
[16:18] <publio> i did --bind
[16:18] <publio> used to do
[16:18] <EriC^^> ok, same thing
[16:19] <EriC^^> publio: so you mount binded /dev and /proc and /sys ?
[16:19] <publio>  for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /media/.....137864$i; done
[16:19] <publio> or one by one
[16:19] <publio> yea i used to moutn those 3
[16:19] <publio> only
[16:19] <EriC^^> ok, it'll work
[16:20] <EriC^^> mount --bind /dev/pts and /run just in case
[16:20] <publio> running: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /media/ubuntu/1f38e0d5-aa06-472f-92d1-d27fd1a129fb/; done
[16:20] <EriC^^> publio: you forgot the $i after 2437489274
[16:21] <publio> not sure what that did
[16:21] <EriC^^> /media/ubuntu/1f38e0d5-aa06-472f-92d1-d27fd1a129fb$i; done
[16:21] <EriC^^> hmm
[16:21] <publio> after the /
[16:21] <publio> or
[16:21] <publio> ah
[16:21] <EriC^^> without the /
[16:22] <publio> mount point /media/ubuntu/1f38e0d5-aa06-472f-92d1-d27fd1a129fb/dev does not exist
[16:22] <publio> couple of these
[16:22] <publio> is it flipped?
[16:22] <EriC^^> type ls /media/ubuntu/2346267423
[16:23] <publio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826724/
[16:23] <publio> ls /media/ubuntu/1f38e0d5-aa06-472f-92d1-d27fd1a129fb/
[16:23] <EriC^^> ok, reboot
[16:23] <publio> what, really?
[16:23] <EriC^^> i think it mount binded /run etc. there
[16:23] <publio> I havent
[16:23] <EriC^^> yeah
[16:23] <publio> done anything
[16:23] <publio> i mean like
[16:23] <publio> grub-update
[16:23] <EriC^^> cause we need to start over dude
[16:24] <publio> or install
[16:24] <EriC^^> it mount binded /run there
[16:25] <EriC^^> easiest is to restart and mount the install at /mnt
[16:26] <BBLLCC> hi, i need help
[16:26] <wtm_iphone> ?
[16:26] <BBLLCC> for the last 20 minutes I have been dealing with grub. Grub lists like 40 kernels, from 5 to 19, but the latest one, 19
[16:26] <Deathstar> when is firefox 39 coming to ubuntu?
[16:27] <rat35> I want to become a white hat hacker
[16:27] <BBLLCC> on synaptic I got rid of all old kernels, thats it all 18 and below
[16:27] <rat35> How to become one ?
[16:27] <privateNodez> delete the rest of the kernels then
[16:27] <wtm_iphone> I'm a Chinese, I can't speak English very well. Don't mind.
[16:28] <BBLLCC> on booting, GRUB listed ALL old kernels, even when I got rid of them in synaptic, but the current one 19, and I had to manually edit the booting line to 19 instead of 16
[16:28] <BBLLCC> why does GRUB list non-existent kernels?
[16:28] <privateNodez> did you do 'update-grub'?
[16:28] <reds> 大家好
[16:28] <wtm_iphone> 额
[16:28] <EriC^^> publio: wb
[16:28] <EriC^^> BBLLCC: type dpkg -l | grep linux-image and paste it
[16:29] <publio> EriC^^: Ill mount the drive, umount the boot partition and mount it to /ubuntu/1../boot
[16:29] <reds> 看来国人很少
[16:29] <publio> and we'll be back where it was going ok?
[16:29] <BBLLCC> privateNodez, do I type that on a terminal?
[16:29] <EriC^^> publio: hold on man
[16:29] <wtm_iphone> you should run 'sudo update-grub'
[16:29] <BBLLCC> here in xubuntu I mean
[16:29] <privateNodez> BBLCC: yes
[16:29] <DJones> !cn | reds
[16:29] <publio> oh alright, I thought the problem was with mounting run
[16:29] <wtm_iphone> 嗯，确实少
[16:30] <EriC^^> publio: use sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 bla
[16:30] <wtm_iphone> 我只是进来练练英文的
[16:30] <reds> 好的，谢谢Djones
[16:30] <EriC^^> publio: it was, this will be easier though
[16:30] <publio> right, i guess typing bla is faster
[16:30] <wtm_iphone> Djones是bot么
[16:30] <reds> 谢谢ubottu
[16:30] <lala> Is this where I can make my router assign a static IP to my computer? http://i.imgur.com/unnbUmj.png
[16:31] <publio> mounted!
[16:31] <EriC^^> publio: did you type that?
[16:31] <publio> i did,  its on mapper/bla
[16:31] <EriC^^> publio: type sudo mount /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /mnt
[16:31] <publio> alright
[16:32] <wtm_iphone> !cn
[16:32] <BBLLCC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826749/
[16:32] <BBLLCC> do I need to get rid of something else? why are 2 copies of everything?
[16:32] <EriC^^> publio: all good?
[16:33] <BBLLCC> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826755/
[16:33] <wtm_iphone> you should run 'sudo update-grub'
[16:33] <BBLLCC> i dont get it, I got rid of ALL those kernels, but 3.19.0.21 and 22
[16:33] <publio> yea, the drive's on /mnt
[16:34] <EriC^^> publio: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot
[16:34] <privateNodez> BBLLCC: you can delete the kernels you don't want and then rerun the update-grub command to regenerate the grub configuration file.
[16:34] <privateNodez> I believe
[16:34] <publio> should I umount /media/ubuntu/0... (boot partition first)
[16:35] <BBLLCC> privateNodez, but I already got rid of those kernels (synaptic), why are they still there?
[16:35] <privateNodez> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[16:35] <EriC^^> publio: is that mounted?
[16:35] <publio> yea, I could see the drive at boot
[16:35] <wtm_iphone> BBLLCC, you should run 'sudo update-grub'
[16:35] <EriC^^> publio: ok, unmount it
[16:36] <BBLLCC> wtm_iphone, already did
[16:36] <privateNodez> the sudo is implied
[16:36] <privateNodez> real men run as root
[16:36] <rat35> Ubuntu can be used for pentest ??
[16:36] <privateNodez> anything can be used for pentest
[16:37] <publio> EriC^^: Alright, I mounted it and now I can't see the drive
[16:37] <EriC^^> publio: did you mount it to /mnt/boot?
[16:38] <publio> yup, I meant it looks good
[16:38] <BBLLCC> privateNodez, about your link... do I have to run sudo apt-get autoremove linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic linux-image-2.6.32-21-generic for each of the kernels??
[16:38] <EriC^^> publio: oh ok
[16:38] <BBLLCC> jesus christ
[16:38] <BBLLCC> aint there an easier way?
[16:38] <EriC^^> publio: type for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[16:40] <publio> ok, no errors
[16:40] <EriC^^> publio: ok, type sudo chroot /mnt
[16:41] <publio> alright (im in root, btw)
[16:42] <publio> df -h looks good, with /boot mounted as sda1
[16:42] <publio> have a couple of these errors tho: df: ‘/sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset’: No such file or directory
[16:42] <EriC^^> publio: ok, great
[16:42] <privateNodez> BBLLCC I would keep 2 kernels at least, and delete any ones I didn't need
[16:42] <EriC^^> publio: are you using uefi?
[16:42] <EriC^^> publio: nevermind that question
[16:42] <EriC^^> publio: type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[16:42] <BBLLCC> privateNodez, i have 2 kernels
[16:42] <privateNodez> make sure you're not deleting the kernel that your using though, check using 'uname -a'
[16:43] <publio> im not sure, this is originally a win7 machine
[16:43] <privateNodez> Then whats the issue?
[16:43] <privateNodez> you want only 1 kernel in the grub options?
[16:43] <BBLLCC> privateNodez, but again, on the repos all old kernels (from 5 to 18) are not installed. Why does dpkg -l | grep linux-image list non existent kernels?
[16:44] <BBLLCC> and, how do I make sure xubuntu automatically installs the latest kernel?
[16:44] <privateNodez> possibly because they weren't removed properly
[16:44] <publio> EriC^^: Installation finished. No error reported. !!
[16:45] <privateNodez> try purging the non-existing packages 'apt-get purge' or 'dpkg --purge'
[16:45] <BBLLCC> privateNodez, and anyone in the room, what do I do?
[16:45] <EriC^^> publio: ok, cool
[16:45] <EriC^^> type update-grub
[16:46] <wtm_iphone> BBLLCC: I don't know.
[16:46] <publio> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826818/ dunno if its a problem
[16:47] <privateNodez> once your done purging if update-grub still doesn't work then do 'updatedb.mlocate' and then 'locate <kernel name>'
[16:47] <EriC^^> publio: crap, i think the usb is dying or something
[16:48] <publio> it's a sandisk! you wouldn't believe-- there were corrupt blocks on day 1
[16:50] <wtm_iphone> What's the time now in your cities?
[16:50] <EriC^^> publio: type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg and paste it
[16:51] <arcetera> Hey!
[16:51] <EriC^^> i dunno maybe you could manually type what it needs to boot and then update-grub, my second idea is to unplug the usb and try update-grub and see what happens
[16:51] <arcetera> I'm having trouble with hibernation and Wi-Fi on my MacBook Pro 2010 running Ubuntu MATE 15.04.
[16:51] <EriC^^> publio: hmm maybe we could remove the os-prober so it doesn't look for other disks maybe?
[16:51] <EriC^^> publio: try chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[16:51] <EriC^^> and try update-grub again
[16:52] <baja> i am trying to look for my ubuntu version number
[16:52] <baja> ??
[16:52] <publio> maybe sdb is ram? because im on a livecd
[16:52] <OerHeks> wtm_iphone, please don't poll, this is ubuntu support only
[16:52] <arcetera> Basically, Wi-Fi only works every other sleep. When I turn on my laptop, it doesn't work. Open and close, it works. Open and close, it doesn't work.
[16:52] <baja> ive tried lsb_release -a nad its given error
[16:52] <arcetera> etc
[16:53] <BBLLCC> privateNodez, update grub works, I only have 3 kernels, see here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826749/ , but that information is conflicting with what dpkg -l | grep linux-image shows, see here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826755/ why do I get conflicting information?
[16:53] <publio> grub.cfg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826846/
[16:53] <baja> ubuntu version number
[16:53] <baja> ive tried lsb its bring error
[16:53] <baja> anyone help
[16:53] <hannibal> hi
[16:53] <baja> hi
[16:53] <publio> EriC^^: Should I chmod os prober?
[16:53] <arcetera> Also, when I hibernate the laptop, it takes a few seconds for the screen to turn off.
[16:53] <OerHeks> baja what error?
[16:54] <baja> no command lsb_release found
[16:54] <OerHeks> baja and below that ?
[16:54] <baja> No command 'lbs_release' found, did you mean:
[16:54] <baja>  Command 'lsb_release' from package 'lsb-release' (main)
[16:54] <BBLLCC> publio, was that for me?
[16:54] <arcetera> you made a typo baja
[16:55] <arcetera> it's lsb_release, you typed lbs_release
[16:55] <OerHeks> sbaja eems like you don't run ubuntu
[16:55] <baja> ok thanks
[16:55] <publio> BBLLCC: No, but if you're having trouble booting because you tried to remove old linux kernels from /boot, you're having the same problem as me
[16:56] <EriC^> publio: sorry i got dc, did you get my last msg?
[16:57] <publio> EriC^: Wasn't sure that was you, you lost a ^
[16:57] <EriC^> publio: :D
[16:57] <publio> last I posted /boot/grub/grub.cfg, and you said i should
[16:57] <publio> chmod +x os prober
[16:58] <EriC^> ok, cool
[16:58] <publio> i was asking if ishould still, after you saw the cfg
[16:58] <publio> ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ### being empty and all
[17:00] <noinstall> I set up my encrypted partitions, assign them mount points, click continue and get 'The attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 in Encrypted volume (sdc1_crypt) at / failed. (Go Back) (Continue) the Go Back option is broken and does nothing. I've tried restarting and doing this over about 5 times and the results are always the same.
[17:00] <EriC^> publio: yeah, give it a shot
[17:01] <BBLLCC> im manually removing all those old kernels but the 2 newest
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> BBLLCC, as long as the latest kernel is installed and operating, I wouldn't worry about dpkg output. You can try running "sudo apt-get autoremove" to make sure old kernels are properly removed, and it will uninstall the older kernels.
[17:01] <EriC^> publio: we just want it not to look for other installs on other disks, if we're lucky that'll happen unless it calls the binary
[17:01] <BBLLCC> now
[17:01] <BBLLCC> how do I make sure xubuntu installs and uses always the newest kernels?
[17:02] <bazhang> the package management handles that BBLLCC
[17:02] <OerHeks> BBLLCC, normally you don't need to do anything
[17:02] <pragmaticenigma> BBLLCC, as long as you haven't disabled the update manager, you will be alerted when there is a new kernel update availab
[17:03] <bazhang> unless he means some new kernel released outside of package manager
[17:03] <pragmaticenigma> BBLLCC, You can also run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" which will pull in all updates availabe for your configuration
[17:03] <privateNodez> and update-grub is run automagically for you whenever a new kernel is installed
[17:03] <publio> EriC^: Ill run update-grub again, see what happens?
[17:03] <privateNodez> you shouldn't install kernels that aren't supported for your os yet
[17:03] <EriC^> publio: ok
[17:04] <BBLLCC> take a look at that, my biggest command so far http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826890/ , please notice if I need to get rid or edit anything else
[17:04] <publio> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826893/ A shorter error list, at least. Old one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826818/
[17:04] <privateNodez> lol
[17:04] <pragmaticenigma> BBLLCC, I think you just nuked your machine
[17:04] <privateNodez> dexter@dexter
[17:05] <Attox> I'm getting a tocblock error on boot for a second or so, after that the system boots normally. Any idea what this is about?
[17:05] <privateNodez> BBLLCC, what was the command you used?
[17:05] <privateNodez> apt-get autoremove?
[17:05] <pragmaticenigma> privateNodez, he manually entered in all the kernels
[17:05] <BBLLCC> no i didnt nuke the machine
[17:05] <BBLLCC> newest 2 kernels are still there
[17:05] <EriC^> publio: ok, chmod +x it back
[17:06] <publio> ok?
[17:06] <pragmaticenigma> BBLLCC, You need linux-image-generic* and it's associated packages
[17:06] <easyOnMe> EriC^: have you tried Yii framework before
[17:06] <BBLLCC> the command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826903/
[17:06] <EriC^> publio: chmod +x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[17:06] <EriC^> easyOnMe: no
[17:06] <EriC^> i haven't
[17:06] <easyOnMe> EriC^: thanks
[17:07] <publio> yes I did that; i just meant i don't know what we're trying to do
[17:07] <privateNodez> I live on the edge so i would have done something like 'dpkg -l | grep linux-image- | grep -v <kernel to keep> | xargs apt-get purge
[17:07] <privateNodez> '
[17:07] <EriC^> publio: we're trying to build the grub.cfg file
[17:07] <EriC^> publio: do you have kernels installed?
[17:07] <EriC^> publio: type ls -l /boot
[17:08] <BBLLCC> pragmaticenigma, installing that one from the repo and the associated ones
[17:08] <pragmaticenigma> privateNodez, I just use the autoremove command regularly and call it good
[17:08] <BBLLCC> my craptop needs to be udated
[17:08] <publio> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826912/
[17:08] <publio> Im not sure, I've installed linux-generic before
[17:08] <privateNodez> I'm careful with automatic anything
[17:08] <EriC^> publio: update-grub is supposed to mention any kernels it finds, but it's not, i thought maybe it had to do with the usb errors, it might not though
[17:09] <noinstall> Trying to install 15.04: I set up my encrypted partitions, assign them mount points, click continue and get 'The attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 in Encrypted volume (sdc1_crypt) at / failed. (Go Back) (Continue) the Go Back option is broken and does nothing. I've tried restarting and doing this over about 5 times and the results are always the same.
[17:09] <publio> but while using boot-repair before, it got stuck purging my kernel
[17:09] <EriC^> publio: ok, that makes sense
[17:09] <EriC^> publio: type apt-get install linux-image-generic
[17:09] <privateNodez> I've been thinking about leaving ubuntu all together and going back to gramps
[17:09] <EriC^> if it says it's installed add --reinstall after apt-get install
[17:10] <publio> yea, i had to reinstall it, and it completed successfully
[17:10] <xhoch3> hello, I am researching for an article about click packages (in a series for new packaging formats under linux systems). Is there a place I can get the most up-to-date documentation about click packages as a start?
[17:11] <EriC^> ok, it should have ran update-grub itself
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> !click | xhoch3
[17:11] <xhoch3> I have found various sources, but it's hard to tell whether they contain hard facts or just assumptions
[17:11] <privateNodez> whats a click package
[17:11] <EriC^> publio: did it mention picking up the kernels and stuff?
[17:11] <pragmaticenigma> privateNodez, id love to on something like centos or the like... but mythtv just doesnt play the same
[17:11] <SchrodingersScat> !snappy | xhoch3
[17:11] <publio> just unpacking them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826926/
[17:12] <EriC^> publio: ok, try update-grub
[17:12] <xhoch3> ubottu, yes, but as I heard these packages are already used on the Ubuntu Phone, and they will come to desktop with 16.04
[17:12] <SchrodingersScat> xhoch3: discussion in #snappy please, it's offtopic here
[17:14] <publio> EriC^: same errors, os_prober in the cfg is the same: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826936/
[17:14] <xhoch3> SchrodingersScat, is snappy and click the same thing? how do they relate?
[17:14] <xhoch3> for example, I am not on snappy here, but still can use click packages
[17:14] <xhoch3> I have the usual Ubuntu 15.10
[17:15] <EriC^> publio: that sucks
[17:15] <EriC^> publio: linux is the part that grabs the kernels, os-prober is just for other os's like windows etc.
[17:15] <publio> is it? I mean maybe the rest worked
[17:15] <EriC^> it's empty though
[17:15] <xhoch3> and as I heard, it will not be "Ubuntu Core", but the new version will be called "Ubuntu Next"
[17:15] <EriC^> nah linux is empty
[17:15] <publio> sure, I don't have anything else
[17:15] <DJones> xhoch3: 15.10?  You may be better asking in #ubuntu+1 with that just being in development, or did you mean 14.04
[17:15] <xhoch3> ubuntu core is for servers and iot, isn't it?
[17:15] <privateNodez> pragmaticenigma: thats really cool, I didn't know about mythtv
[17:15] <EriC^> publio: are the kernels in /boot? type ls -l /boot
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> privateNodez, also... note, the prefix on the dpkg -l tells you if the package is installed or not... just realized this. dpkg keeps a running log of all packages the have been installed and uninstalled. if it starts with "ii" it's installed if it starts with "rc" it's been removed ... one of the caveats of using grep on output of commands
[17:16] <publio> nah, just grub, lost+found, and 3 memtest files
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> xhoch3: ok, wasn't sure what a click was, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/packaging-click-apps/ , idk where you would go for that.
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> you lose the meaning of the columns
[17:16] <EriC^> publio: that's odd
[17:16] <EriC^> publio: type mount and paste it
[17:16] <publio> maybe it mounted /boot as readonly?
[17:17] <publio> sorry, just 'mount' ?
[17:17] <EriC^> yup
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> privateNodez, check out Mythbuntu... it's a real nice spin and makes setting up MythTV super simple
[17:17] <xhoch3> DJones, I'll try there, thx :)
[17:17] <publio> mount: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11826959/
[17:18] <DJones> xhoch3: The +1 channel is generally were the people using/testing the next release hang out
[17:18] <DJones> Just may be a bit quiet
[17:18] <noinstall> ubuntu just seems to be dropping fast in quality itself and in community
[17:18] <publio>  /boot is +rw
[17:19] <xhoch3> noinstall, I'd say it's the opposite!
[17:19] <stallmen_> http://www.yzzerdd.com/
[17:19] <privateNodez> pragmaticenigma, good to know, I should use dpkg more. In that case i'd have to add an aditional grep to my oneliner to only xarg the packages that are installed. and an awk '{print $2}'
[17:19] <google-----> hi i cant connect hdmi
[17:19] <xhoch3> there is no technology company atm as interesting as Canonical is
[17:19] <xhoch3> in the IT sector of course
[17:20] <publio> EriC^: Should I try burning a livecd to use, instead of my faulty usb? Could that be why the kernel cant be found?
[17:20] <EriC^> publio: no, it's not showing up in /boot
[17:20] <pragmaticenigma> privateNodez, its actually the first 4 lines
[17:20] <xhoch3> Ubuntu has constantly improved quality, I'be been using it as my main system since 9.04
[17:20] <google-----> is there a fix for hdmi not displaying
[17:21] <pragmaticenigma> 5 if you want the pretty border
[17:21] <EriC^> publio: try installing the package instead of linux-image-generic
[17:21] <EriC^> publio: which ubuntu are you using?
[17:21] <publio> 14 lts
[17:21] <pragmaticenigma> R is removed, the C is for Config files (which are always left over)
[17:21] <EriC^> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[17:22] <EriC^> publio: try sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-55-generic
[17:22] <pragmaticenigma> google-----, is that the only port avaabile for graphics on your computer? is your computer a laptop? we need more information about the system before we can diagnose the problem
[17:22] <EriC^> publio: also try typing touch /boot/bla and see if you can create it fine
[17:22] <Googleman> iui ?
[17:23] <google-----> yess it is a laptop
[17:23] <google-----> Dell 15 inch 3000 series
[17:24] <sqrt7744> hi, how can i disable x from starting on my server?
[17:24] <sqrt7744> 15.04
[17:24] <OerHeks> google-----, most laptops have a FN key to enable internal/external/both screens
[17:24] <publio> EriC^: It didn't install the package, apt says '1 not upgraded'
[17:24] <google-----> mine opens menu
[17:25] <publio> EriC^: /boot/bla now exists
[17:25] <sqrt7744> nvm found it http://askubuntu.com/questions/16371/how-do-i-disable-x-at-boot-time-so-that-the-system-boots-in-text-mode
[17:26] <publio> EriC^: Maybe I should install the previous kernel? Its always good to have a backup
[17:26] <EriC^> publio: yeah, sure
[17:26] <RDX4OO> sqrt7744, just try this the solution from your link
[17:28] <google-----> 0erHerks, I'm running ubuntu mate is there a command that will recognize the hdmi
[17:29] <publio> EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827022/ Good news is that it ran update-grub on its own this time
[17:30] <publio> got some new stuff in /boot!
[17:30] <OerHeks> google-----, no, your 2nd screen should be available in the screen section of systemsettings
[17:31] <privateNodez> google-----: try 'udevadm monitor' and then plug the hdmi In
[17:31] <privateNodez> see if it shows up
[17:31] <google-----> 0erHeks, there is only my monitor and unknown that displays nowhere
[17:31] <BBLLCC> aqnd....
[17:31] <BBLLCC> hi there again
[17:32] <Trel> For setting up a xmpp server on Ubuntu server (no gui) would jabberd2 or prosody be the best option?
[17:32] <OerHeks> google-----, then see the driver menu, if there is a better driver available
[17:32] <BBLLCC> grub is NOT updated. I rebooted the system and the machine lodade grub directly, listing ALL old kernels, but the newest one (3-19-0-22)
[17:32] <BBLLCC> why does grub keep listing old and nonexistent kernels?
[17:33] <BBLLCC> yes, i DID updated grub from the terminal, several times
[17:33] <OerHeks> BBLLCC, maybe you have a linux on that machine with grub, before you added ubuntu ? so you have a grub chainloading?
[17:33] <BBLLCC> yes, uname-r lists 3.19.0.22 as the actual kernel
[17:34] <BBLLCC> dpkg -l | grep linux-image lists 4 3.19.0.xx kernels
[17:34] <BBLLCC> so, why does grub keep listing old and nonexistent kernels?
[17:34] <RDX4OO> BBLLCC, i had the same issue sometime, just remove the old kernel stuff frome /boot
[17:35] <RDX4OO> BBLLCC, and go sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean
[17:35] <BBLLCC> OerHeks, nope
[17:35] <urmph> BBLLCC: You have to remove kernels and correctly to remove from grub in general.
[17:36] <BBLLCC> RDX4OO, you mean manually going to /etc/boot ?
[17:36] <RDX4OO> BBLLCC, yes :)
[17:36] <google-----> 0erheks, the only other driver i can use is prossesor
[17:36] <urmph> BBLLCC: Don't do that, bad advice.
[17:36] <RDX4OO> urmph, it works by me
[17:36] <RDX4OO> an i still running the same machine
[17:37] <RDX4OO> and
[17:37] <publio> EriC^: Am I ready to reboot, to test it?
[17:37] <BBLLCC> ok, who do I pay attention to?
[17:37] <EriC^> publio: great!
[17:37] <EriC^> yeah
[17:37] <Trel> Question, how can I set a service to run as a specific user?
[17:37] <google-----> 0erheks this is what I see screenshot-3.png
[17:37] <xar> I'm trying to install `android studio` using this script, but, it wouldn't happen. What's wrong with it please?
[17:37] <urmph> RDX4OO: Right, however there are correct ways to do this, the channel supports that, a root removal is really only good when you have filled the boot and HD and cannot proceded without.
[17:37] <EriC^> wait
[17:37] <EriC^> publio: 1 sec
[17:37] <publio> sure
[17:38] <RDX4OO> urmph, maybe u have an better idea for BBLLCC
[17:38] <publio> wonder why grub couldnt find -55?
[17:38] <EriC^> publio: great, it's in grub.cfg now
[17:38] <TJ-> BBLLCC: do you have more than one storage device (HDD, SDD, USB_ attached to the PC?
[17:38] <EriC^> *shrug*
[17:38] <BBLLCC> nope TJ-
[17:38] <EriC^> publio: try rebooting
[17:38] <EriC^> publio: type exit first, then reboot
[17:38] <urmph> RDX4OO: That is basic stuff, they will get served. ;O
[17:38] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Let's work backwards from the symptom...
[17:38] <RDX4OO> im just telling my experience :P
[17:39] <publio> alright, brb, hopefully off my hd
[17:39] <TJ-> BBLLCC: At boot-time grub generates the boot menu from it's (root)/grub/grub.cfg file which in a booted Linux OS is usually at /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
[17:40] <urmph> RDX4OO: Cool, however be aware we peer review each other here in general to be sure users are given objective correct info.
[17:40] <TJ-> BBLLCC: therefore, the first check is to manually inspect "/boot/grub/gruv.cfg" (a text file) to see if it contains all those old kernel entries
[17:40] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Can you "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg" please ?
[17:41] <RDX4OO> urmph, thats great :) but now, which info will be help him?
[17:41] <urmph> RDX4OO: He is being helped by a IT pro as we speak.
[17:42] <urmph> watch and learn ;)
[17:42] <RDX4OO> urmph, alright ;)
[17:42] <TJ-> BBLLCC: Whilst you're pasting that file for us, I'll continue. The file is *generate* in the OS by "update-grub", which is as shell script that runs the task scripts in "/etc/grub.d/" . In that directory the script that creates the bootable OS list is "10_linux"
[17:42]  * TJ- winks @ urmph 
[17:42] <urmph> ;)
[17:43] <xar> I'm trying to install `android studio` using this script, but, it wouldn't happen. What's wrong with it please? https://github.com/haythemkh/installation-scripts-for-IDEs/blob/master/android-studio-installer.sh
[17:45] <Seveas> xar: a lot of things. Don't run random crap off github.
[17:45] <OerHeks> xar, the number "bundle-132.883541" is version dependant, maybe that is your issue
[17:46] <RDX4OO> BBLLCC, is LOST :(
[17:46] <bettchenchen> hi
[17:46] <bettchenchen> internet broke down
[17:46] <bettchenchen> http://pastebin.com/U6xuZ7GL
[17:46] <bettchenchen> im bbllcc
[17:46] <bettchenchen> thats for TJ-
[17:46] <xar> Seveas, the script is safe, but it doesn't install android app
[17:47] <xar> OerHeks, I don't think so, the script runs but I cannot run the app from the launcher
[17:47] <kostkon> xar, check out ubuntu make
[17:47] <xar> kostkon, any link please?
[17:47] <bettchenchen> apparently grub.dfg lists all old kernels
[17:48] <TJ-> bettchenchen: OK, got it
[17:48] <OerHeks> xar,  read their manual, maybe you need java or something
[17:48] <kostkon> xar, this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-make
[17:49] <TJ-> bettchenchen: OK, now lets look at what kernel+initrd images are actually installed. Please show us "pastebinit <(ls -latr /boot/) "
[17:50] <bettchenchen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827097/
[17:50] <publio> EriC^: The good news is, I can see Ubuntu on grub.  The bad news is that it gives up waiting for root device.
[17:51] <publio> ALERT /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist. Dropping to a shell.
[17:51] <TJ-> bettchenchen: Thanks. So, those 2 pastebins tell us that when you use "update-grub" it isn't updating "/boot/grub/grub.cfg". Now we need to discover why. First lets check that file isn't specially protected. "pastebinit <(ls -latr /boot/grub/) "
[17:52] <TJ-> publio: that sounds like the initrd may not have the lvm tools in it. Does "lvm" launch a command or report "command not found" ?
[17:52] <bettchenchen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827104/
[17:53] <TJ-> bettchenchen: That's interesting, the latest update was "Dec 18  2014 grub.cfg"
[17:53] <bettchenchen> TJ-, i can neither confirm nor deny
[17:53] <TJ-> bettchenchen: However... "Jul  5 19:31 menu.lst"  .... tells me a lot!
[17:53] <publio> TJ-: I don't know what you mean? It recommends that the common problems are: Boot args (check rootdelay, root) or Missing modules
[17:54] <TJ-> bettchenchen: "menu.lst" was used by GRUB version 1 whereas "grub.cfg" is used by GRUB version 2. It appears you've manged to remove grub v3 and install grub v1 !
[17:54] <publio> should i chroot in and run update-initramfs? I dunno what that even does
[17:54] <bettchenchen> ididwhat?
[17:54] <TJ-> publio: The system has just dropped to a shell, yes?
[17:54] <publio> yup
[17:54] <bettchenchen> and how do I fix it?
[17:54] <publio> im on a livecd now, but thatswhat it does
[17:55] <TJ-> publio: As it was trying to boot, so you have a busybox shell in the initrd? .... OH! ... OK, yes you'd need to build a chroot and use update-initramfs in that
[17:55] <TJ-> bettchenchen: show us "pastebinit <(dpkg -l grub*)"
[17:56] <publio> TJ- thanks, Ill give that a try
[17:56] <bettchenchen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827124/
[17:57] <TJ-> bettchenchen: that confirms my diagnosis: "ii  grub                  0.97-29ubuntu66 " (installed) ... "rc  grub-pc               2.02~beta2-15" (Removed)
[17:57] <TJ-> bettchenchen: "sudo apt-get --purge remove grub && sudo apt-get install grub2"
[17:58] <ioria> and grub2-common  ?
[17:58] <TJ-> ioria: the grub2 package has Depends on all the required packages
[17:58] <ioria> ok
[17:58] <RDX4OO> TJ-, nice diagnosis :)
[17:59] <xar> why does ubuntu always create a ~ file after every update?
[17:59] <TJ-> ioria: Try "apt-cache depends grub2"
[17:59] <TJ-> xar: the ~ indicates a back-up file
[18:00] <bettchenchen> TJ-, im now at the package configuration part. I have these options
[18:00] <bettchenchen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827146/
[18:00] <xar> TJ-, how to back-up?
[18:00] <zykotick9> TJ-: fyi, "sudo apt-get purge foo" is a bit shorter to type ;)
[18:00] <TJ-> bettchenchen: let's not take chances; choose "Install the package maintaners version"
[18:01] <TJ-> zykotick9: I'm in the habit from before apt-get gained the purge command
[18:01] <zykotick9> TJ-: ;)
[18:01] <bettchenchen> TJ, Setting up grub2 (2.02~beta2-22ubuntu1.1) ... done. Am I done?
[18:02] <TJ-> xar: those "~" files are only created by some applications that respect the convention of saving the last version of a file with that suffix, rather than over-writing it. Not all applications respect that convention.
[18:02] <TJ-> bettchenchen: Now to be sure "sudo update-grub" and then "pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[18:03] <xar> TJ-, yeah, gedit does
[18:03] <bettchenchen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827162/
[18:03] <xar> TJ-, but is it possible to make a back-up then? how?
[18:05] <TJ-> xar: I'm not sure what you mean. If the editor you're using creates those "~" files that is the back up... until you edit the file again when the "~" will be replaced of course
[18:05] <bettchenchen> if this means im done TJ- many thanks for all the help
[18:07] <publio> TJ-: I'm running 'update-initramfs -k all -v'.  Should I be adding a -c or -u flag to that?
[18:07] <TJ-> bettchenchen:  I think you're good to go now
[18:07] <bettchenchen> TJ-, then as said, tahnks a lot!!
[18:07] <TJ-> publio: "-u" Update
[18:09] <bettchenchen> how do I activate a boot screen for my machine while it loads?
[18:09] <publio> looks good, I see a couple mentions of lvm in there.  I'll reboot and see what happens :)
[18:10] <TJ-> bettchenchen: Do you mean a grub splash screen, or Ubuntu? Usually Ubuntu uses Plymouth to put up a splash screen during start-up
[18:10] <bettchenchen> yes TJ- plymouth
[18:11] <TJ-> bettchenchen: That is controlled the kernel command-line option "splash" which is set in the grub.cfg. I see its there for the non-Recovery boot entries so Plymouth should show its splash screen
[18:12] <TJ-> bettchenchen: To check which plymouth themes are installed do "dpkg -l plymouth* "
[18:12] <TJ-> bettchenchen: E.g. On Kubuntu I see several packages starting "plymouth-theme-kubuntu-"
[18:13] <bettchenchen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827197/ and how do I choose one of those?
[18:14] <xpheres> hi
[18:14] <xpheres> does anyone knows which ubuntu touch "market" apps are out thereß
[18:14] <xpheres> ?
[18:14] <TJ-> bettchenchen: Those "ii" prefixes tell you the packages are already installed, so if you are not seeing the splash screen it may be it is manually disabled
[18:15] <bazhang> !touch | xpheres
[18:15] <xpheres> thanks
[18:16] <publio> TJ-: It dropped to a shell again.  Should I try running update-grub, after the update-initramfs?
[18:16] <TJ-> publio: Hmmm, I'm wondering if the way you create the chroot is causing you problems
[18:16] <bettchenchen> TJ-, how do I enable it?
[18:18] <TJ-> bettchenchen: The init system should automatically start it, As you have systemd on that as well as upstart, I'm not sure how you deal with it. You'll need someone who's more familiar with plymouth, and/or, systemd init
[18:18] <publio> I can pastebin the commands.  They got got grub fixed, so it can actually see ubuntu now..
[18:18] <django_> heyall
[18:18] <bettchenchen> ok TJ- thanks
[18:19] <django_> anyone done android on an hp touchpad before
[18:19] <TJ-> publio: Do that, and when you update the initrd add the "-v" verbose flag and capture output to a log file using: "update-initramfs -vu -k all |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" then you can pastebin that log file
[18:19] <OerHeks> django_, this is ubuntu support only
[18:19] <urmph> django_: There is the ubuntu touch on #ubuntu-touch
[18:19] <publio> alright, yea thats a long file
[18:19] <django_> sorry :s
[18:20] <TJ-> publio: you can pastebin just "pastebinit <(grep -C2 /tmp/initrd.log)"
[18:20] <TJ-> publio: you can pastebin just "pastebinit <(grep -C2 lvm /tmp/initrd.log)"
[18:21] <publio> ok
[18:22] <TJ-> publio: when you create the chroot, you should *only* mount the root-fs and bind-mount the kernel file-systems proc sys dev dev/pts and etc/resolv.conf - once in the chroot you should then do "mount -a" to mount according to the /etc/fstab
[18:23] <publio> yea i mount those things, including my boot partition.  I haven't run "mount -a", but I'll do that now
[18:24] <TJ-> publio: as in "sudo -i"  then "mkdir /target && mount  /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root /target"  then  "for n in proc sys run dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done" then "chroot /target" then "mount -a" followed by "update-initramfs -vu -k all |& tee /tmp/initrd.log"
[18:25] <publio> TJ-: I did http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827242/
[18:26] <publio> about to chroot now
[18:26] <publio> /etc/resolv.conf is already copied
[18:26] <publio> ill do it again to be sure
[18:26] <TJ-> publio: don't mount the /boot file-system until you're in the chroot... that's what "mount -a" is supposed to do
[18:27] <publio> I mean, judging from df -h, /boot was ok last time
[18:27] <publio> shall I umount /boot and try to mount in inside chroot?
[18:27] <TJ-> publio: when its mounted from outside the chroot it can cause grub for 1, to get confused
[18:27] <publio> /mnt/boot*
[18:28] <TJ-> publio: Yes, that would be preferred.
[18:29] <publio> I umounted, chrooted and ran 'mount -a', but /boot doesn't show up in df -h
[18:29] <publio> but i can go into /boot..
[18:30] <publio> TJ- worked I think, time for a "update-initramfs -vu -k all |& tee /tmp/initrd.log"?
[18:31] <NicoHood> I created a network share with ubuntu (rightclick, preferences). which type of share is this and how can I mount it with a non ubuntu distribution? (using elementary os which actuall IS ubuntu but has no such options so i have to manually do it)
[18:31] <TJ-> publio: yes. Always use "mount" to confirm all the expected file-systems are present, first, though
[18:33] <publio> TJ-: Yes, I can see even /dev/sda1 mounted to /boot correctly
[18:35] <rockstar_> I'm deleting folders using find . -name "other" -exec rm -f -r {} \; But it didn't work for paths with spaces. Amy suggestion?
[18:35] <publio> TJ-: initramfs log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827284/
[18:36] <nightingale_> hello
[18:38] <EriC^> rockstar_: use '{}'
[18:38] <TJ-> publio: "Adding binary /sbin/lvm" ... tells us the lvm support is in the initrd
[18:39] <publio> I remember seeing that line last time too..
[18:39] <EriC^> rockstar_: also, it's better to use echo rm first to see which files it'll delete
[18:39] <publio> pretty sure at least-- didn't make a copy
[18:39] <rockstar_> EriC^: I thought I did use {} after rm params
[18:39] <EriC^> rockstar_: i mean '{}' with the quotes
[18:40] <rockstar_> EriC^: correct, I echoed with just find first.
[18:40] <TJ-> rockstar_: and consider using '-delete' or '-execdir'
[18:40] <rockstar_> EriC^: ok I will try :)
[18:40] <TJ-> publio: let me read some more
[18:40] <rockstar_> EriC^: can I do echo in any other way with find?
[18:41] <TJ-> publio: You missed "cryptsetup: WARNING: invalid line in /etc/crypttab for bla"
[18:41] <rockstar_> EriC^: thanks, I think it worked
[18:41] <TJ-> publio: So the problem is cryptsetup not having unlocked the block device so the LVM isn't visible
[18:42] <publio> oh, unlocked on my livecd?
[18:42] <publio> or luksClose? i think it was
[18:42] <TJ-> publio: no... the /etc/crypttab" file has bad syntax
[18:43] <EriC^> TJ-: we did a sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 bla earlier
[18:43] <publio> huh, I didn't touch it? "sda5_crypt UUID=1a5c9917-721b-4950-b492-46f8a0c026b6 none luks,discard"
[18:43] <TJ-> publio: the root file-system from "/etc/crypttab" is copied to the initrd's "/conf/conf.d/crypttab" , but the hook has found a syntax error in that file
[18:43] <EriC^> isn't bla just a random name? usually i see people using my-encrypted-volume or something
[18:44] <TJ-> EriC^: precisely .... the names aren't matching
[18:44] <EriC^> TJ-: yeah, but what name are you supposed to use?
[18:44] <publio> huh, I dont't have a /conf dir?
[18:44] <EriC^> i mean my-encrypted-volume is just generic
[18:44] <publio> the uuid?
[18:44] <publio> yea
[18:44] <TJ-> publio: when you unlock the encrypted partition from the Live environment, you must the same device-mapper name that is in the target system's "/etc/crypttab"
[18:45] <EriC^> TJ-: but you have to unlock it to know what it is :D
[18:45] <publio> is 'sda5_crypt' the name?
[18:45] <EriC^> so i guess you have to close then open again? or is there a way to switch it on the fly?
[18:45] <TJ-> You've got a system currently using /dev/mapper/bla   so the initrd hook script is looking for a "bla UUID=..." in that file
[18:46] <TJ-> EriC^: yes, but once that's done you can change it to use the correct name
[18:46] <TJ-> publio: correct, it is
[18:46] <TJ-> publio: "dmsetup rename bla sda5_crypt"
[18:46] <TJ-> publio: then check with "ls /dev/mapper/"
[18:47] <publio> oh I was thinking of rebooting, and mounting as sda5_crypt
[18:47] <publio> but if that works..?
[18:47] <EriC^> you have to run update-initramfs again i think
[18:47] <TJ-> publio: confirm the correct name  /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt  then redo the update-initramfs
[18:47] <publio> sure, sure I;ll check it
[18:48] <publio> and reup the log from initramfs
[18:48] <TJ-> publio: yes please, so I can confirm :)
[18:48] <publio> yes, it renamed in /dev/mapper/ ok
[18:51] <publio> New log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827346/ compared to the old bla: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827284/
[18:51] <publio> no warning!
[18:52] <TJ-> publio: looks good: "Adding binary /lib/cryptsetup/askpass"
[18:52] <TJ-> publio: That's fixed :)
[18:54] <ydabba> hi I am running into this error on boot: proc/self/fd/9: 1:  /etc/default/locale: LC_CTYPE: not found . I cannot get to a terminal, any advice on how to troubleshoot?
[18:54] <ydabba> and the boot hangs
[18:54] <ikonia> so he default local is wrong and it's scanning the floppy drive
[18:54] <NicoHood> I want to copy my files via network but I dont have the permissions (i dont own the files with the other computer). how can I give the other computer access?
[18:55] <publio> Yea, it's time to test!  I'll brb in a few
[18:55] <TJ-> ikonia Huh?
[18:55] <ikonia> ydabba's issue
[18:56] <ikonia> the variable is missing/wrong for the LOCALE, and it's scaning the floppy drive
[18:56] <TJ-> ydabba: "/proc/self/fd/9" is the kernel's per-process  file-descriptor directory :)
[18:56] <ikonia> TJ-: nice, thank you
[18:56] <ydabba> ikonia, TJ- thanks for the replies. how do i fix this?
[18:57] <TJ-> ikonia: The error is because there's some shell piping going on involved the locale settings which is being tripped up.
[18:57] <TJ-> ydabba: are you able to start system in Recovery mode, possibly with an older kernel ?
[18:57] <CryptoSiD> is willy still the last ubuntu?
[18:58] <ydabba> TJ-, i try recovery mode, but i still cannot get to a working terminal. i can get to a root terminal but i don't know root password...
[18:58] <TJ-> CryptoSiD: 15.10 Wily is the current *development* version
[18:58] <BBLLCC> can anyone tell me how to enable plymouth on xubuntu? I dont see any animation
[18:59] <CryptoSiD> yeah i like to run the development version (addicted to updates)
[18:59] <TJ-> ydabba: So Recovery menu fails to start a root shell when you ask it?
[18:59] <waykool99> Why is it dangerous, in Terminal, to create -and- change ROOT password as "sudo su" instead of "sudo"?
[18:59] <ObrienDave> !root | waykool99
[18:59] <EriC^> BBLLCC: sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[18:59] <TJ-> waykool99: it's to do with how those commands alter the invoking user's shell environment
[19:00] <EriC^> BBLLCC: then sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[19:00] <TJ-> my root password is "letmein"; don't mind who knows :)
[19:00] <ydabba> TJ-, when trying to get into the root i receive the same locale error.
[19:00] <ydabba> i thought it was asking for password before, but i misread
[19:01] <BBLLCC> thanks EriC^ , hope it woks
[19:02] <TJ-> ydabba: I wonder if you edit the GRUB menu's Recovery entry, add "init=/bin/bash" to the end of the line beginning "linux ..." and then press F10... that should start the system directly with a bash shell without anything getting in the way. If that works you can remount the root-fs r/w and correct the /etc/default/locale entry
[19:02] <ydabba> TJ-, ok thanks, let me give that a shot
[19:03] <TJ-> And before you think "what a $%^! fool" my root accounts don't have UID==0
[19:04] <publio> TJ-: It's still dropping to a shell :(
[19:05] <TJ-> publio: are you able to be on IRC whilst the faulty PC is at the initrd shell?
[19:05] <hotmedal> I can't ping 8.8.8.8, but I can ping 8.8.4.4 or anything else http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827421/
[19:06] <publio> I could be
[19:06] <ydabba> TJ-, the init appears to have failed. the boot was very verbose, but it hung at some "call trace" and at the top there is a "kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init"
[19:06] <TJ-> ydabba: did you get the cryptsetup prompt for password?
[19:06] <TJ-> ydabba: ignore me... that question is for publio
[19:07] <TJ-> publio: did you get the cryptsetup prompt for password?
[19:07] <TJ-> ydabba: I wonder if the root file-system has been corrupted. Are you using a live ISO now?
[19:07] <publio> on my hd boot? no
[19:08] <nicomachus> hey guys, I disabled wlan0 a few months ago, and I can't figure out how to enable it again... I've looked in quite a few places, and tried 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up', but that didn't do the trick.
[19:08] <publio> it just hangs for a while, and launches up with something that says Ubuntu 14.04, hangs, and goes to shell
[19:08] <ydabba> TJ-, not a live cd. everything was working fine until after i am now turning on after reboot. hardware and install both less than 1 year old
[19:08] <publio> the Ubuntu 14.04 loading screen looks coarse, unlike fresh, current one
[19:08] <TJ-> publio: so it's failing before it tries to unlock the encrypted partition, or else the config in the initrd to find it, is still incorrect
[19:09] <ioria> nicomachus, sudo ifup wlan0 ?
[19:09] <TJ-> publio:  the plymouth splash screen is what displays the Ubuntu version to you
[19:09] <nicomachus> ioria: that did it. Thanks! TJ-: I just came in, but it sounds like publio might be having the same issue I had a few weeks ago with another machine. Just upgraded to 15.04?
[19:10] <publio> Did initramfs change something in /boot? I dont see how it can help, as its encrypted if it didnt.  Should I run update-grub in chroot?
[19:10] <EriC^> nicomachus: you were having the issue! i was just thinking somebody had it, i wonder if he fixed it and how
[19:10] <TJ-> publio: you're on the Live environment right now?
[19:10] <EriC^> hi btw
[19:10] <nicomachus> EriC^: Nope... lost it all.
[19:10] <TJ-> publio: Did you just say /boot/ is encrypted!?!
[19:11] <publio> nicomachus: no, I was clearing my full /boot and apparently deleted a kernel which was old, but my system was using
[19:11] <EriC^> oh
[19:11] <publio> TJ- no, no the other way :)
[19:11] <nicomachus> publio: gotcha, that happened to me when it updated to 15.04. not sure if I cleared it outta /boot or the update process did... but it's the same problem.
[19:11] <ioria> maybe it's the unlocking command.... maybe
[19:12] <publio> sure, to make it worse, is having to work with an encrypted drive
[19:12] <nicomachus> my last best guess before I gave up and wiped it was something to do with LVM
[19:12] <nomic> if i plug a usb keypad (not keyboard) into a ubuntu laptop will it take over from the laptop keypard?
[19:13] <TJ-> publio: Good! OK ... lets open the initrd and look inside, from the Live env. First mout the /boot/file-system somewhere, then "sudo -i" and "mkdir -p /tmp/initrd && cd /tmp/initrd"
[19:13] <nomic> cos i just invested in 1
[19:13] <publio> nicomachus: I've thought of wiping, since I have  abackup, but its troublesome
[19:13] <publio> TJ-: So, chroot to the system like before, and mkdir?
[19:13] <publio> or outside
[19:14] <TJ-> publio: Then "zcat /path/to/boot/initrd.img-??????? | cpio -id" - replace ????? with the kernel version string
[19:14] <nicomachus> I gotcha. have you checked the superblock on the crypt_luks partition to see if it's corrupted? Mine was, and so were the backsups, which is why I wiped.
[19:14] <JL235__> hey, I need to install Java 8 and NetBeans 8 however the software centre still have 7 in Ubuntu
[19:14] <TJ-> publio: no chroot required for this initrd inspection
[19:14] <JL235__> how do I find out what repos to add to get the current versions?
[19:14] <TJ-> JL235__: I have Java 8 built in one of my PPAs for 14.04 LTS
[19:15] <brainwash> !java
[19:15] <TJ-> nicomachus: there's nothing wrong with the LUKS volume, this is just an initrd config issue
[19:15] <nicomachus> ok.
[19:16] <johan__> hi
[19:16] <publio> nicomachus: I can mount the encrypted drive, so I assume the superblock is ok? At least I hope it is
[19:16] <TJ-> publio: obviously ensure you extract the initrd.img for the same kernel version you're having boot failures for
[19:16] <johan__> tryin so hard
[19:16] <TJ-> publio: it's fine
[19:16] <johan__> Hi.
[19:17] <EriC^> hi johan__
[19:17] <cheyan> 这么晚了
[19:17] <johan__> This is actually not my computer, but I need some help.
[19:17] <EriC^> shoot
[19:18] <nicomachus> !chinese
[19:18] <JL235__> the launchpad ppa thing, is that basically random people's own repo packages that they have put online?
[19:18] <johan__> Well I need some help mounting an drive called "HP", pleasee help.
[19:18] <publio> TJ-: I have initrd - 54 expanded into /tmp/initrd
[19:19] <johan__> please*************
[19:19] <Umeaboy> johan__: What's the problem?
[19:19] <EriC^> johan__: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 and give us the link it gives you
[19:19] <supercom32> When I hit num lock or caps lock on my USB keyboard my USB mouse appears to monetarily freeze/disconnect and it won't move or respond for a few seconds. any ideas?
[19:19] <johan__> k
[19:20] <TJ-> publio: OK, and the current working directory should be the 'root' of the initrd file-system. if you do "ls" you should see a similar directory layout as if you did "ls /"
[19:20] <EriC^> johan__: have you tried mounting it?
[19:20] <publio> TJ-: I do... weird
[19:20] <TJ-> publio: If that is the case, then first check the crypttab with "cat conf/conf.d/crypttab"
[19:20] <johan__> when i come to my real home i will try mounting it
[19:20] <Umeaboy> johan__: And what filesystem is it using?
[19:20] <publio> TJ-: It doesn't exist!?
[19:21] <johan__> i dont know i have dual boot
[19:21] <TJ-> publio: that's because the initrd contains a small, temporary, root file system containing just enough to get the system from just a kernel, to the fully running system
[19:21] <publio> right, chicken egg I think
[19:21] <TJ-> publio: uhoh, that suggests the original /etc/crypttab was still incorrect in some way
[19:21] <Umeaboy> johan__: FAT32 or NTFS is the most common besides EXT4.
[19:21] <johan__> ik
[19:21] <BBLLCC> how do I get rid of truecrypt?
[19:22] <TJ-> publio: but, now we know 100% what the issue it rather than guessing, so you can create the chroot again and we can work on that
[19:22] <publio> yea, thats true; i'll do that
[19:22] <hotmedal> I can't ping 8.8.8.8, but I can ping 8.8.4.4 or anything else http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827421/
[19:23] <TJ-> publio: WOA! stop stop stop
[19:23] <publio> ok?
[19:23] <TJ-> publio: my BIGGO mistako!
[19:23] <publio> I have a conf/conf.d/resume file
[19:23] <TJ-> publio: I got the wrong filename for you!! check the crypttab with "cat conf/conf.d/cryptroot"
[19:23] <publio> "RESUME=UUID=a97ad6c6-dba2-4aa4-8e1d-0f0611b9d5b9"
[19:23] <publio> oh
[19:24] <TJ-> publio: good job I tested it here :)
[19:24] <JL235__> where can I find a repository for Ubuntu which has up to date software in it?
[19:24] <JL235__> the official one seems really out of date
[19:24] <JL235__> and I don't mean adding random launchpad/ppa ones
[19:24] <TJ-> JL235__: package versions are fixed at release time, they only receive security and bug-fix updates after
[19:25] <ObrienDave> JL235__, ubuntu strives for stability. they don't always have the 'bleeding edge'
[19:25] <publio> /tmp/initrd/conf/conf.d only has 1 file: resume
[19:25] <JL235__> ObrienDave, I don't want bleeding edge I want current version
[19:25] <TJ-> publio: OK, so, nothing has changed then. Crack open that chroot and lets look at the crypttab
[19:26] <ObrienDave> JL235__, again, that violates the 'stability' issue
[19:26] <publio> heh
[19:26] <TJ-> JL235__: Package versions are frozen at release. Later upstream versions go into the latest development release until Feature Freeze
[19:26] <JL235__> ok, but where can I find a repository to add which had current versions of software (not beta or bleeding edge, current release versions)
[19:26] <shovel_boss> how do i further customize i3 beyond the config file
[19:27] <TJ-> JL235__: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze
[19:27] <publio> TJ-: I should luksOpen it as...  'sda5_crypt', right?
[19:27] <TJ-> publio: correct
[19:28] <JL235__> TJ-, that only seems to explain freeze features. Where can I find a repo to add which has current software in it?
[19:28] <ydabba> TJ-, played around with the grub boot and made it verbose. found different errors now:
[19:28] <ObrienDave> JL235__, you can enable 'proposed' and 'backports' in software settings
[19:28] <ydabba> TJ-, ureadahead man process terminated with status 5
[19:28] <ydabba> TJ-, but when i do f2 that locale error pops up, and my original errors are no where to be found
[19:28] <TJ-> JL235__: there are no such official repos. Individual upstream project devs sometimes maintain PPAs to make their latest stable releases available on supported Ubuntu releases, and Ubuntu devs such as myself will sometimes build specific packages for testing prior to inclusion in the main Ubuntu archives
[19:29] <ObrienDave> JL235__, again, ubuntu repos probably will not EVER have 'current' releases
[19:29] <ioria> JL235__, why do you need 8 ? if i may
[19:29] <TJ-> ioria: Lambdas
[19:29] <JL235__> and I'd rather start a new project on the current version
[19:29] <JL235__> than an old version
[19:30] <publio> TJ-: you're a dev!  Which parts have you contributed, if I may?
[19:30] <JL235__> ObrienDave, how do I add proposed and backports? I've looked in the 'software & updates' settings and I don't see those options
[19:30] <ydabba> TJ-, going to boot with a livecd and try to edit the locale file
[19:30] <TJ-> ydabba ureadahead is a typical report ... it is responsible for accelerating boot times by fetching data from disk before it'll be needed
[19:30] <JL235__> I have pretty much everything in there checked though like pre-released, unsupported, recommended, etc
[19:30] <ObrienDave> JL235__, updates tab
[19:31] <ydabba> TJ-, ok understood. the second error is mountall main process terminated with status 127
[19:31] <TJ-> publio: I contribute all over; I focus on bug fixing, but I prefer low-level stuff like this issue of yours :)
[19:32] <TJ-> ydabba: mountall is responsible for mounting file-systems in the correct order, and running fsck on file-systems. I said earlier I suspected corruption... if mountall is failing it *may* be due to a fsck failing
[19:32] <JL235__> still only showing out of date versions
[19:32] <TJ-> JL235__: which release of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:33] <ioria> JL235__, seems it exists a RetroLambda that you can use with 7...
[19:33] <publio> TJ-: figures an os dev would be interested in low-level stuff
[19:33] <ydabba> TJ-, hmm ok. at one point there was an error where it tried to mount a drive that was on the server, but i don't see that error anymore
[19:33] <publio> TJ-: I'm in my chroot now
[19:33] <ioria> JL235__, http://blog.orfjackal.net/2013/07/lambda-expressions-backported-to-java-7.html
[19:33] <JL235__> omg, I'll just find a copy of Windows and use that
[19:34] <JL235__> fuck this linux bollocks
[19:34] <ioria> how do you dare ? :-)
[19:34] <ObrienDave> glwt
[19:34] <JL235__> like all I wanna do is use *current* software
[19:34] <JL235__> not even beta or anything like that
[19:34] <ObrienDave> then add the PPA and be done with it
[19:34] <TJ-> publio: OK, can you show us "pastebinit /etc/crypttab" and "sudo lsbk -f" - make sure there's nothing sensitive in the crypttab first
[19:34] <EriC^> JL235__: as ObrienDave said
[19:34] <ioria> come on...
[19:35] <supercom32> Using Ubuntu 15.04, does anyone know why pushing numlock on a USB keyboard would cause the USB mouse to stop responding for a moment?
[19:35] <JL235__> so this gets back to my original question; how do I find a repo where I can get the current version of software?
[19:35] <JL235__> which I've asked about 5 times now
[19:35] <JL235__> and I just get asked "why do you want to use current software?" and pointed to faqs that don't answer it
[19:35] <EriC^> JL235__: there's no repo for all software, as TJ-  said individual people upload stuff about certain stuff
[19:35] <ObrienDave> there is NO OFFICIAL ubuntu repo that has what you are asking for
[19:35] <TJ-> JL235__: We've answered you, too. You can also install the latest Java directly from openjdk
[19:35] <Seven_Six_Two> JL235__, software doesn't exist in bubbles, and are tied to shared libraries. There is no single repo with all of the latest. That's not how it works.
[19:36] <TJ-> JL235__: Mine's here if you want it. https://launchpad.net/~tj/+archive/ubuntu/java-for-14.04/
[19:36] <JL235__> there used to be big repos years ago you could add which had more up to date software
[19:37] <ObrienDave> that was then, this is now.
[19:37] <TJ-> JL235__: not official Ubuntu archives, never has been. All additional archives/repos were/are operated by 3rd parties
[19:37] <publio> my crypttab is a line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827582/
[19:38] <TJ-> publio: check that UUID matches the partition will you? "sudo blkid /dev/sda5" I'd guess will show it
[19:38] <publio> TJ-: There's no 'lsbk' command?
[19:38] <TJ-> publio: sorry, typo, "lsblk"
[19:38] <p5yc071c> Can someone  double check my hard drive partition?  I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 After installing OSX and windows on a macbook pro
[19:38] <publio> TJ-: the typo was mine, sorry; first time I've heard of it
[19:38] <TJ-> publio: I have to break off now, it's time for Sunday Dinner :) ... EriC^ might be able to continue from here
[19:39] <publio> TJ-: thanks for your help, I think it's pretty close now! Enjoy your meal
[19:41] <EriC^> publio: try sudo blkid
[19:42] <publio> Hey EriC^. I think they match
[19:42] <publio>  :(
[19:42] <publio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827623/
[19:44] <Guest46811> hello averyone
[19:44] <Guest46811> any iranian here ?
[19:44] <sly> hi
[19:44] <publio> EriC^: crypttab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827582/ matches /dev/sda5.  I guess it's supposed to match that instead of /ubuntu--vg-root
[19:44] <OerHeks> !ir| Guest46811
[19:45] <p5yc071c> Here's what I've got: http://imgur.com/x0dJztV,tsWeJKH#0  and http://imgur.com/x0dJztV,tsWeJKH#1
[19:46] <supercom32> Using Ubuntu 15.04, does anyone know why pushing numlock on a USB keyboard would cause the USB mouse to stop responding for a moment?
[19:46] <EriC^> publio: no, i think it's correct
[19:46] <p5yc071c> Can someone check and make sure I've formated the partion correctly?
[19:46] <hotmedal> I can't ping 8.8.8.8, but I can ping 8.8.4.4 or anything else http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827421/
[19:47] <kichuku> in #linux
[19:47] <publio> hotmedal: Maybe it's blocked?
[19:47] <linuxholic> Hello, i have this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/615610/brightness-controls-serious-lag-ubunut-15-04
[19:47] <linuxholic> I am using Ubuntu 15.04
[19:47] <OerHeks> p5yc071c, all those freespace looks wrong to me.
[19:48] <linuxholic> I searched on the internet but didn't found anything helpfull
[19:48] <linuxholic> anyone?
[19:49] <p5yc071c> OerHeks: I think most of them may have been created by BootCamp in OSX...I did leave the 999MB free space...should i include that in my sda5?
[19:49] <linuxholic> Helloooo...
[19:50] <OerHeks> p5yc071c, yes, and those other 0 blocks i should leave as it is.
[19:50] <linuxholic> Anyone, please?
[19:50] <BBLLCC> on my applications menu there are 2 orfan icons: the programs have been erased, but the icons are still there, i cannot get rid of them with alacarte either
[19:50] <BBLLCC> they are not listed in alacarte
[19:50] <Seven_Six_Two> linuxholic, please be patient. If nobody answers you right away, nobody has an immediate answer. That doesn't mean nobody is looking or reading.
[19:50] <nicomachus> !patience | linuxholic
[19:50] <EriC^> publio: are you still in the chroot?
[19:50] <publio> hotmedal: try digging 8.8.8.8 to confirm
[19:50] <p5yc071c> OerHeks: thanks!  do you see any other major issues?
[19:50] <publio> EriC^: yes
[19:51] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, thanks
[19:51] <ioria> hotmedal, http://superuser.com/questions/845470/can-ping-8-8-4-4-but-not-8-8-8-8
[19:51] <OerHeks> p5yc071c, nope, go ahead
[19:51] <hotmedal> publio: dig got an answer
[19:52] <p5yc071c> OerHeks: Thanks again!
[19:52] <linuxholic> ubottu, i did searched help.ubuntu.com
[19:52] <publio> hotmedal: Any difference in latency between 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4?
[19:52] <EriC^> publio: ok type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:53] <publio> EriC^: cat: /boot/grub/grub.cfg: No such file or directory !?
[19:53] <Seven_Six_Two> linuxholic, is one of those posts by you?
[19:53] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, yeah i commented on that post
[19:53] <hotmedal> publio: .8.8 has 90ms query time .4.4 has 0. That's zero :/
[19:53] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, but the problem is same
[19:53] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, i think it's in kernel
[19:54] <nicomachus> linuxholic: you can try booting an older kernel if a solution is that important.
[19:54] <hotmedal> publio: I'm supposed to do just "dig 8.8.8.8" right? No options?
[19:54] <linuxholic> nicomachus, wow!
[19:55] <linuxholic> What if i want to use the latest kernel? :P
[19:55] <EriC^> publio: did you type mount -a?
[19:55] <publio> hotmedal: put a @ before the ip
[19:55] <nicomachus> then you're going to have a delay on your brightness keys until they fix the bug.
[19:55] <ObrienDave> nicomachus, this is a busy channel. please add the nick to your replies
[19:55] <publio> EriC^: Sure I did, twice in fact, second accidently.  I can see /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) on mount
[19:55] <linuxholic> nicomachus, who's going to fix it?
[19:55] <linuxholic> Ubuntu team?
[19:56] <Seven_Six_Two> linuxholic, have you seen   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2208278
[19:56] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, yup
[19:56] <Seven_Six_Two> did you try both suggestions?
[19:56] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, yes
[19:56] <EriC^> publio: ok, try dpkg -l | grep lvm | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:56] <Seven_Six_Two> what was the result?
[19:57] <hotmedal> publio: right, no reponse from .8.8, promp response from .4.4
[19:57] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, this bug was fixed
[19:58] <publio> EriC^: http://termbin.com/xxsg
[19:58] <Seven_Six_Two> linuxholic, I didn't see a bugreport?
[19:58] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, no i didn't reported it yet
[19:59] <apex> hey guys
[19:59] <publio> EriC^: You know, I think the command 'luksOpen' worked without cryptsetup prepended before.  Now, on my livecd i need to add that... Maybe I wrote down the command and omited cryptsetup, because it shouldn't be any different
[19:59] <apex> im new
[19:59] <linuxholic> as i was using Ubuntu 14.04.2
[19:59] <apex> who thinks the console is better than gui?
[19:59] <linuxholic> and i never reported a bug :)
[20:00] <publio> hotmedal: do traceroutes to 8.8 and 4.4 follow different paths?  They should both end in *.google.com
[20:00] <Seven_Six_Two> apex, console is better once you know how to use it.
[20:00] <apex> i know Seven_Six_Two
[20:00] <apex> it is waay more powerful
[20:00] <Seven_Six_Two> apex, but they're different use cases. The web isn't fun at console.
[20:00] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, it gets even worse on kernel 4.0 :D
[20:01] <hotmedal> publio: trace to .8.8 is full of asterisks, nothing identifiable beyond my router
[20:01] <apex> am i the only one here who uses tor
[20:02] <TJ-> publio: back. I've caught up. UUIDs match - that is good. initrd.img/conf/conf.d/cryptroot missing is the thing we need to focus on. For that, we should consider how the cryptsetup hook script installed for intramfs-tools isn't copying the correct entry over. This could be caused by an error in "/etc/fstab" - can we look at that?
[20:02] <publio> hotmedal: what asterisks on the left side?   Can you run 'traceroute 8.8.8.8 | nc termbin.com 9999' and post the link
[20:03] <Seven_Six_Two> linuxholic, can you change it instantly with command line?
[20:03] <publio> TJ-: EriC^: http://termbin.com/0an3 dont see sda5 or its uuid in there.  I'm not sure what I should see
[20:03] <hotmedal> publio: http://termbin.com/53eg  This only shows 6 lines but I get 30, they're all *s
[20:04] <TJ-> publio: the hook script is "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot"  so we basically manually follow and reproduce its steps and identify where it fails to copy the crypttab entry
[20:04] <TikityTik> HOw can I run 32 bit programs on a 64 bit architecture?
[20:04] <apex> What desktop environment do you guys recommend?
[20:04] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, i don't know how, sorry
[20:04] <TJ-> publio: This is good: "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root / .... "
[20:05] <Seven_Six_Two> linuxholic, does this (or similarly named) file exist for you?    /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness
[20:05] <linuxholic> Let me check
[20:05] <publio> hotmedal:  As you say, it works for 4.4.  It looks like packets heading to 8.8 get dropped immediately
[20:05] <xpheres> hello
[20:06] <xpheres> does anyone have an ubuntu phone?
[20:06] <hotmedal> publio: so basically my ISP's shenanigans?
[20:06] <apex> hi xpheres no i dont
[20:06] <xpheres> ok
[20:06] <apex> do you
[20:06] <publio> TJ-: its 541 lines long!
[20:06] <xpheres> if anyone have please let me know
[20:06] <xpheres> I need to test an app
[20:06] <Seven_Six_Two> xpheres, I don't, but I tried ubuntu touch on a nexus 5.
[20:06] <xpheres> do you have ubuntu touch installed now?
[20:07] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, yes it does, it says "937" in it
[20:07] <publio> hotmedal: yea, if it's not an error or anything, it's just how it looks... You should call them and tell them about 4.4
[20:07] <Seven_Six_Two> xpheres, no, because of limited memory. Maybe I'll give it a shot later today, because I'm still rooted and have multi-rom installed.
[20:07] <xpheres> ah ok
[20:07] <hotmedal> publio: all right, thanks
[20:07] <apex> im using lts, should I upgrade my distro?
[20:07] <Seven_Six_Two> linuxholic, ok. try this command:                  echo 600 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[20:08] <TJ-> publio: in the hook script, there's a function get_root_device() which parses /etc/fstab. The key part of it is the line "device=$(canonical_device "$device") || return 0" and in particular the call to function canonical_device. If that doesn't convert the "/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root" that could fail. There's another related function node_is_in_crypttab() that could also cause the issue
[20:08] <publio> the script I have, same prob for you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827715/
[20:08] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, quick as fox
[20:09] <Seven_Six_Two> linuxholic, ok. so you have a quick hack. reduce the 600 for more dimming. increase to max of 937
[20:09] <publio> TJ-: so I should run canonical_device $device to see if it works? I dont see where $device comes from
[20:10] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, right, thanks
[20:10] <TJ-> publio: line 402 is the crucial one, so we work back from there. "echo "$OPTIONS" >>"$DESTDIR/conf/conf.d/cryptroot" "
[20:10] <TJ-> publio: no, nothing to run, this is a mental exercise to figure out what should be what, and when :)
[20:11] <supercom32> Using Ubuntu 15.04, does anyone know why pushing numlock on a USB keyboard would cause the USB mouse to stop responding for a moment?
[20:12] <publio> TJ-: I see.  Even if $OPTIONS on line 402 is empty, it should create a cryptroot file for me
[20:12] <linuxholic> supercom32, because mouse is disabled while typing
[20:12] <publio> TJ-: But I'm missing it?
[20:12] <supercom32> linuxholic: It doesn't disable under any other case except for numlock and capslock. And I'm not using these on a laptop ether.
[20:13] <TJ-> publio: no... 2 lines before that, there's a "continue" which would immediate execute the next iteration of the containing "for" loop on line  388
[20:13] <publio> TJ-: Wait, where was it again
[20:13] <linuxholic> supercom32, which version are you using?
[20:13] <supercom32> linuxholic: I figure it might have something to do with USB Power management, but I haven't rebooted to find out yet. I'm using Ubuntu Gnome 15.04
[20:14] <TJ-> publio: That conditional continue is a result of the if test on the previous line, which calls the function "get_device_opts" so thats our next checkpoint
[20:14] <EriC^> TJ-: this is probably irrelevant, but we had a hard time installing linux-image-generic earlier, it would say unpacking and never put anything in /boot, we installed an earlier version kernel, probably irrelevant just thought you should know
[20:14] <linuxholic> supercom32, does it happen always?
[20:14] <publio> TJ-: Yea it's the first continue in the loop.  So I guess that means the if never fails? And we want it to once
[20:15] <linuxholic> supercom32, have you tried unloading and reloading driver?
[20:15] <supercom32> linuxholic: Yep. You push numlock to toggle it, mouse freezes for about 5 seconds, then comes back. Almost as if the device gets momentarily disconnected and Ubuntu re-connects it.
[20:15] <TJ-> EriC^: Thanks ... was there sufficient disk space in both /boot/ and the roofs for it?
[20:15] <knut_> Hi
[20:15] <supercom32> linuxholic: I haven't tried unloading/reloading the driver. Is that a simple process? I never had to do it before.
[20:15] <publio> TJ-: That's right, I have 54 and 55 installed
[20:16] <EriC^> TJ-: i think so, /boot was almost empty, publio do you recall the df -h being full?
[20:16] <linuxholic> yea, it's simple
[20:16] <linuxholic> supercom32, try this command [20:16] <Seven_Six_Two> linuxholic, perhaps from post #15 on might help you.   https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=178014
[20:16] <EriC^> *not full
[20:16] <TJ-> publio: now we do some nifty stuff.... we enable the script to write out every line it is about to execute to stdout, then we re-run the update-initramfs command to the log file, and we can track the execution flow of the script :)
[20:16] <publio> EriC^: When I first had this problem, my drive was almost full, but I have 22G avail now.
[20:17] <linuxholic> and then modprobe psmouse
[20:17] <publio> EriC^: I cleared boot, which is why I'm having this problem :)
[20:17] <TJ-> publio: I'm using vim on the script, but with whatever text editor you are comfortable with, edit the script and at the 2nd line add "set -x" and then save it
[20:17] <knut_> Can anyone help me with the installation of ubuntu? I'm currently dual booting Fedora with Windows, but i would like to replace my fedora partition in favour of Ubuntu since I'm unable to upgrade my current fedora installatio
[20:18] <linuxholic> Seven_Six_Two, thanks i will look into it
[20:18] <publio> TJ-: huh I didn't know it could do that.  I'll that right after bin/sh... also using vim
[20:19] <supercom32> linuxholic: Ok, I tried that. I didn't get any errors at command line, but my issue still remains.
[20:19] <publio> TJ-: Alright, give '/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot' a run?
[20:19] <TJ-> publio: no... update-initramfs .... | tee ...
[20:19] <supercom32> linuxholic: I should mention, if I didn't already, that both my keyboard and mouse are USB connected.
[20:19] <publio> TJ-: Right sorry, looks like that's what you wrote above
[20:19] <linuxholic> supercom32, have you tried using ubuntu 14.04.2?
[20:20] <TJ-> publio: then pastebin the log file... the script output lines are prefixed "+ " and start around "Calling hook cryptroot"
[20:20] <linuxholic> supercom32, have you tried any other keyboard?
[20:21] <publio> TJ-: EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827769/
[20:21] <supercom32> linuxholic: I've tried using ubuntu 14.04.2 previously but it gives me terrible issues with mutter and applications that try to make use of full screen mode. I haven't tried other keyboards yet, but I plan to see if I can move my mouse to the PS2 socket instead.
[20:22] <TJ-> publio: line 600 it starts the match for /
[20:22] <TikityTik> I need help running 32 bit on 64 bit
[20:22] <TikityTik> i can't seem to run steamcmd on 64 bit ubuntu
[20:23] <linuxholic> supercom32, maybe you should try another keyboard
[20:23] <TJ-> publio: line 709 it matchs the vg-root to the encrypted device
[20:24] <publio> TJ-: yea, looks ok?  I'm not sure what the device with uuid=a97... is on line 638
[20:24] <supercom32> linuxholic: Do you think if I moved my mouse to another USB port, perhaps if they are on diffrent bus's it might help? <Shrugs>
[20:24] <supercom32> linuxholic: I'm not even sure if I have more but I could ry.
[20:24] <supercom32> try
[20:25] <linuxholic> supercom32, yeah, you can give it a try
[20:25] <TJ-> publio: line 739 it matches to the crypttab entry
[20:25] <BuzzardBuzz> TikityTic: did you try sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1
[20:25] <linuxholic> supercom32, but i don't think it will solve the problem but it's worth trying
[20:25] <BuzzardBuzz> as mentioned here ->
[20:25] <BuzzardBuzz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/375106/ubuntu-13-10-x64-steamcmd
[20:25] <EriC^> publio: are you sure you're booting the 54 kernel?
[20:25] <publio> TJ-: yea I was expecting it the a9. to be 1...
[20:25] <EriC^> publio: can you pastebin /boot/grub/grub.cfg again?
[20:25] <publio> TJ-: no
[20:26] <TJ-> publio: line 758 OPTIONS is set correctly
[20:26] <publio> EriC^: That file doesn/t exist :/
[20:26] <publio> EriC^: I didn't touch it!
[20:27] <BuzzardBuzz> so your grub is hiding somewhere from you...
[20:27] <EriC^> publio: grub is booting the default one?
[20:27] <publio> EriC^: what do you mean?
[20:27] <EriC^> let me get the paste you gave me earlier, i think it might be booting the 55 kernel which has missing stuff
[20:27] <brainn> yei We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR dbb
[20:27] <gullu> yei We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR dbb
[20:27] <seIam> yei We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR dbb
[20:27] <SeKeR^^> yei We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR dbb
[20:27] <brainn> frb We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR oxh
[20:27] <gullu> frb We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR oxh
[20:27] <seIam> frb We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR oxh
[20:27] <SeKeR^^> frb We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR oxh
[20:27] <Ieader> yei We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR dbb
[20:27] <tansu> akk We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR udd
[20:27] <tansu> jzw We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR lcb
[20:27] <brainn> jzw We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR lcb
[20:27] <kenan> jzw We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR lcb
[20:27] <Chatgirl03> jzw We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR lcb
[20:27] <ertugruI> jzw We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR lcb
[20:27] <EriC^> publio: when you're trying to boot are you going to advanced and choosing the 54 kernel?
[20:28] <publio> EriC^: I think there's only one choice.  And they're between recovery mode and regular
[20:28] <ydabba> TJ-, making progress. i updated my locale file, and am getting further in the boot before hanging. have a language not found error now
[20:28] <ydabba> looking into ways to correct that via livecd
[20:29] <EriC^> i think this is it http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827022/
[20:30] <publio> EriC^: TJ-: On the initramfs there's a 'grep: /boot/config-3.13.0-54-generic: No such file or directory' on line 4071
[20:30] <EriC^> publio: yeah nevermind there's only 54 in the menu
[20:30] <Guest80905> zkz We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR ued
[20:30] <redwoman`> zkz We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR ued
[20:30] <astraa> zkz We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR ued
[20:30] <Guest821632> zkz We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR ued
[20:30] <tanju> zkz We are Turkish HackerS THT/LeGaLDaNGeR ued
[20:31] <TJ-> publio: Ouch!
[20:32] <publio> TJ-: /boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827813/
[20:32] <publio> looks mixed?
[20:32] <ydabba> is there a way to generate locales using a livecd?
[20:32] <dream> How can I access the CLI on Ubuntu MATE 15.04?
[20:33] <TJ-> publio: "apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-3.13.0-54-generic"
[20:33] <urmph> dream: From where?
[20:33] <dream> from the GUI
[20:34] <publio> TJ-: Should have teed that command; it went over my scroll window
[20:34] <MikeRL> Quick question, here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/contribute what's the difference between donating to the desktop and community section?
[20:34] <urmph> dream: Should be in the menu try ctrl-alt-t
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[20:34] <tarik> neb We are Turkish HackerS TurkHackTeam/LeGaLDaNGeR cmy
[20:34] <N-a-T-a-S-C-H-a> neb We are Turkish HackerS TurkHackTeam/LeGaLDaNGeR cmy
[20:34] <aIyazmaIim> neb We are Turkish HackerS TurkHackTeam/LeGaLDaNGeR cmy
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[20:34] <tarik> hrj We are Turkish HackerS TurkHackTeam/LeGaLDaNGeR xdd
[20:34] <aIyazmaIim> hrj We are Turkish HackerS TurkHackTeam/LeGaLDaNGeR xdd
[20:34] <J_e_S_I_C_a> hrj We are Turkish HackerS TurkHackTeam/LeGaLDaNGeR xdd
[20:34] <aqua_Baby> hrj We are Turkish HackerS TurkHackTeam/LeGaLDaNGeR xdd
[20:34] <N-a-T-a-S-C-H-a> hrj We are Turkish HackerS TurkHackTeam/LeGaLDaNGeR xdd
[20:34] <dream> That's just a terminal :P
[20:34] <dream> Yes I know they do the same thing, but any way to get a full CLI?
[20:34] <TJ-> publio:  just check the file list in /boot/ again
[20:34] <urmph> dream: Maybe you could be clearer.
[20:35] <publio> TJ-: EriC^: /boot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827824/
[20:35] <EriC^> !ops
[20:35] <MikeRL> For example, if I want to put some cash behind the Mozilla PPA and packages on the desktop, which is better to contribute to?
[20:35] <dream> In Fedora, Manjaro, Arch and most other distros, I can get the CLI by pressing CTRL+ALT+F1 but in Ubuntu, I can only use the terminal app?
[20:36] <urmph> dream: the tty is the same on theses distros and ubuntu.
[20:36] <TJ-> publio: what concerns me is the big difference in the sizes of the 2 initrd.img for the 2 kernel versions
[20:36] <dream> Fairplay
[20:37] <publio> TJ-: Hah, every other one is the same size!
[20:37] <publio> TJ-: Maybe I should try to get the larger one into my grub file? which doesn't exist..
[20:37] <TJ-> publio: weirdly, I see that same size difference here too
[20:38] <MikeRL> I know I cannot donate to a specific PPA or team, but let me rephrase - which needs more money?
[20:38] <publio> TJ-: which one are you booting from?
[20:38] <TJ-> publio: it suggests that the -55 and later kernels increased the number of kernel modules they include in the initrd.img. We won't worry about it
[20:38] <TJ-> publio: v4.1 :)
[20:38] <urmph> MikeRL: Not sure money is your best communication lever.
[20:39] <TJ-> publio: I don't use the Ubuntu kernels but they get installed as part of the updates
[20:39] <publio> TJ-: heh testing eh
[20:39] <TJ-> publio: back to analysing the script output
[20:39] <MikeRL> Yeah, but I feel that certain areas may need financing.
[20:39] <MikeRL> Do they? Like community stuff and the desktop.
[20:40] <ydabba> hi. does anyone know how to generate missing locales via livecd?
[20:40] <MikeRL> I usually donate a little bit for each release.
[20:40] <MikeRL> Not much, but something.
[20:40] <Bashing-om> TJ-: publio :: -rw-r--r--  1 root root 19346697 Jun 10 11:37 initrd.img-3.13.0-54-generic
[20:40] <publio> TJ-: With both kernels in boot, maybe one will work if I can get them both into /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:41] <Bashing-om> TJ-: publio :: -rw-r--r--  1 root root 19346358 Jun 20 14:57 initrd.img-3.13.0-55-generic . Any help this ? Default install .
[20:41] <urmph> MikeRL: You remind me of the customers whom claim "I'm a regular" not realizing it means nothing except to them, and it is a projected reality.
[20:41] <publio> Bashing-om: TJ-: 12357336 vs 29429304 for -55
[20:42] <publio> Maybe luks adds a few bytes
[20:42] <MikeRL> Well, it helps me feel like I'm doing a bit in addition to looking for bugs and what not.
[20:42] <MikeRL> No, I don't expect anything, but I am a bit curious.
[20:42] <urmph> MikeRL: Good try to keep it altruistic than
[20:43] <EriC^> publio: try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-55-generic
[20:43] <TJ-> publio: don't worry about the sizes, it's not a problem
[20:43] <publio> EriC^: :O
[20:43] <EriC^> publio: then sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-55-generic
[20:43] <publio> alright
[20:44] <TJ-> publio: the initrd is regenerated by the system when you do update-initramfs
[20:44] <EriC^> yeah my initrd is a bit smaller too
[20:44] <TJ-> publio: it includes kernel modules that may be needed early, so maybe the smaller initrd had less modules and was causing some boot failures so the list of included modules was substantially increased
[20:46] <boerax> smack
[20:46] <boerax> /me 3
[20:46]  * boerax 3
[20:46] <boerax> /echo -a
[20:47] <TJ-> publio: I'm tracking it from line 4346 where it calls get_device_opts with the correct pair of crypt-dev and root-fs reference
[20:47] <publio> EriC^: TJ-: Purge: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827894/ Install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827899/
[20:47] <publio> the initrd sizes are both 12M now in /boot
[20:48] <TJ-> publio: really? let me read that script log
[20:50] <EriC^> publio: my initrd for 55 is 27mb
[20:51] <publio> maybe if I create my grub file, it'll work..?
[20:51] <EriC^> give it a shot
[20:52] <publio> to do that, have to grub-install and update-grub, right?
[20:52] <EriC^> just update-grub
[20:53] <TikityTik> my apt-get cannot find lib32bz2-1.0
[20:53] <TikityTik> how can i add this? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/+package/lib32bz2-1.0
[20:54] <TJ-> publio: as far as I can tell, line 213 of your latest pastebin log of update-initramfs is the line that writes to (initd.img)/conf/conf.d/cryptroot
[20:54] <TJ-> publio:  So that last run looks to be successful. Lets open the initrd.img again and look inside to be sure
[20:54] <publio> EriC^: TJ-: Looks good, added both inits: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827921/  Have both in grub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827924/
[20:55] <samgoody> Hi all. Am trying to import a ppa wth no luck.
[20:56] <publio> TJ-: Should I exit to check into that... the command was zcat the init in boot into a temp folder,right?  I omitted writing this unfortunately
[20:56] <samgoody> Am getting an error: gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[20:56] <TJ-> publio: "mkdir -p /tmp/initrd && cd /tmp/initrd"    then "zcat /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-55-generic | cpio -id"
[20:56] <TJ-> publio:  no, we can do it in chroot too
[20:56] <samgoody> It appears that port 11371 is blocked.
[20:56] <TJ-> publio: just that we didn't need chroot in order to do
[20:57] <TJ-> publio: then "cat conf/conf.d/cryptroot"
[20:57] <samgoody> I went to the launchpad page, and copied the key into a text file, which I then used both apt-key and gpg —import to import
[20:57] <samgoody> Which it did with no errors.
[20:57] <mikeit> hi
[20:57] <samgoody> But I still cannot add the ppa. Can anyone help
[20:58] <jhutchins> samgoody: URL?
[20:58] <samgoody> https://launchpad.net/~ansible/+archive/ubuntu/ansible
[20:58] <dennis_> is there a chance to install ubuntu with another installer?
[20:58] <mikeit> someone familiar with ipv6?
[20:58] <dennis_> the installer crashes everytime
[20:58] <hoylemd> Hey, I'm trying to set up some services as daemons to be served by nginx, but they seem to be refusing every connection. What could be causing that?
[20:59] <publio> TJ-: EriC^: cryptroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827944/
[20:59] <mikeit> for setting static addres?
[20:59] <TJ-> publio: Right, so we've solved 1 probem and gained another!
[21:00] <samgoody> sudo apt-key list and gpg --list-keys both list the key and identify it as belonging to ansible.
[21:00] <publio> heh well, they are on the same drive
[21:00] <publio> the lvm is different, maybe its not a problem?
[21:00] <jhutchins> samgoody: did you follow the directions on the link "Read about installing"?
[21:01] <samgoody> but sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ansible/ansible still gets "requesting key 7BB9C367 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[21:01] <TJ-> publio: the entry for the swap is for resume/hibernation images. so in fact that is perfect! do "cd /tmp && rm -rf /tmp/initrd" to clean up, then "exit" then tada! "sudo reboot"
[21:01] <xangua> 15:57 <samgoody> But I still cannot add the ppa. Can anyone help / what PPA?  Sudo add-apt-repository ops/name
[21:01] <publio> TJ-: should I also remove the set -x in that script?
[21:01] <xangua> PPA/name
[21:01] <TJ-> publio: good point!! Yes :)
[21:02] <samgoody> I read the instructions, and have installed ppa's many times in the past.
[21:02] <samgoody> Here I am trying to install ansible from ppa:ansible/ansible
[21:02] <publio> TJ-: Where was it again , got lost from my scroll window :)
[21:02] <samgoody> The launchpad URL is https://launchpad.net/~ansible/+archive/ubuntu/ansible
[21:03] <TJ-> samgoody: it looks like you have problems reaching the HKP port on the keyserver, doesn't it
[21:03] <publio> share..
[21:03] <TJ-> publio: "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot"
[21:03] <xangua> And? What message do you get? Please use a paste site if too long samgoody
[21:03] <samgoody> Yes, it does. I could ping keyserver.ubuntu.com though, so I assume the issue is port 11371
[21:03] <publio> right, let me test it out! brb
[21:04] <TJ-> samgoody: try "telnet keyserver.ubuntu.com 11371" and see if you get connected
[21:04] <jhutchins> samgoody: Did you add software-properties-common
[21:04] <samgoody> http://pastie.org/10274683
[21:05] <samgoody> I added software-properties-common
[21:05] <samgoody> And ran apt-get update before starting anything and afterwards again
[21:06] <samgoody> telnet appears not to be connecting, so I assume that port is blocked
[21:06] <samgoody> Which is why I imported the key manually
[21:07] <TJ-> samgoody: That is in your route; it connects from my location
[21:07] <jhutchins> samgoody: Are you running a firewall on this machine?
[21:07] <samgoody> No, but the ISP is known for blocking things when you least expect it (I am not in the states)
[21:08] <samgoody> I mean, I am running a Firewall, but I disabled it for testing. It is now off
[21:08] <dream> What's the file manager in 15.04 MATE?
[21:09] <xangua> dream: caja
[21:09] <jhutchins> samgoody: Not sure what to tell you then, you can either contact the ISP and see if they're blocking it and if they will open it, or you can run it from github instead of using apt.
[21:11] <jhutchins> samgoody: You can also build your own packages from github and install them.  http://docs.ansible.com/intro_installation.html
[21:11] <TJ-> samgoody: can you show us the result of "nmap -p 80,443,11371 -sT keyserver.ubuntu.com"
[21:13] <samgoody> http://pastie.org/10274690
[21:13] <samgoody> According to this, it is possible to manually add thekey and things should work
[21:13] <samgoody> https://fredreh.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/how-to-add-a-ppa-key-if-you-are-behind-a-restrictive-firewall-port-11371-is-blocked/
[21:13] <samgoody> Is he just wrong?
[21:14] <TJ-> samgoody: something is filtering it, for sure. It should show "11371/tcp open  pksd"
[21:14] <publio> TJ-: EriC^: Same problem, I'm afraid.  It only shows up kernel -54.  Maybe I should try purging it?  Not sure why -55 isn't showing..
[21:14] <EriC^> publio: try grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg in the chroot maybe
[21:14] <TJ-> publio:  I think you've mixed up the /boot/ mount in the past and there's a hidden grub.cfg in the root file-system
[21:15] <publio> I have
[21:15] <TJ-> publio: Can you just mount the root-file-system and then look for it, e.g. if you mount to /target/ show us "ls -latr /target/boot/grub/"
[21:16] <samgoody> We get a router from the ISP, and there is no way to access any of its settings - yif I decided to change my DNS from the router, I have to call the ISP and they do it remotely. So filtering may very well be added at some point :( Nonetheless, isn't there some way around this?
[21:17] <publio> TJ-: EriC^: /mnt/boot/grub: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828025/
[21:17] <xangua> samgoody: are you in a server?
[21:17] <EriC^> publio: mount doesn't show /dev/sda1 right?
[21:17] <TJ-> publio: and this is without /boot/ file-system also mounted ... that shows the problem
[21:17] <samgoody> Vagrant running trusty on a Mac (Yosemiute) host
[21:18] <TJ-> publio: create another mount point, say, /target/ and mount the /boot/ file-system into it
[21:18] <jhutchins> samgoody: Yes, pull the code from github and build your own .dev
[21:18] <jhutchins> s/dev/deb
[21:19] <samgoody> OK, thanks
[21:19] <TJ-> publio: then move all those files into it using "sudo mv /mnt/boot/grub /target/grub"
[21:19] <publio> TJ-: mount on the livecd doesn't show sda1/boot, but I can see the drive on the left-side program bar.  If I click it, it might mount
[21:19] <EriC^> TJ-: maybe those are the old files?
[21:19] <samgoody> I dont like doing that because I forget to update, and then things fall out of sync. But it beats nothing at all :)
[21:19] <EriC^> and the new ones are actually on the /boot partition
[21:20] <TJ-> publio: you need to manually mount it with "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /target"
[21:20] <EriC^> publio: type ls -l /mnt/boot
[21:20] <EriC^> is the 54 and 55 there?
[21:20] <publio> Im not chrooted
[21:20] <publio> should i be?
[21:20] <EriC^> or is it in /target ?
[21:20] <TJ-> EriC^: look at the timestamps; the root-fs has the recently created versions
[21:20] <EriC^> no
[21:20] <TJ-> publio: no chroot required
[21:20] <publio> mount: mount point /target does not exist
[21:20] <publio> yea
[21:20] <TJ-> publio: I said earlier, "sudo mkdir /target"
[21:21] <publio> oh
[21:21] <publio> 'create' yea
[21:21] <EriC^> TJ-: he was trying to reinstall grub today i think
[21:21] <TJ-> publio: you'll end up with both file-systems mounted, rootfs to /mt/ and the boot to /target/
[21:21] <publio>  /target: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828038/
[21:21] <TJ-> EriC^: Yes... when I joined in earlier I spotted that the chroot was being created and /boot/ mounted *before* entering the chroot, which would cause this issue
[21:21] <publio> yes, I have the drive on /mnt
[21:22] <jhutchins> samgoody: If you do a .deb, then continue to try to resolve the connection issue, you can at least make progress until the ISP fixes it.
[21:22] <publio> yea that's what i was doing.. didn't know something chrooted could access sda
[21:22] <TJ-> publio: OK, you can move the grub files from /target/ to /mnt/boot/ now
[21:22] <EriC^> hmm?
[21:22] <TJ-> publio: OK, you can move the grub files from /target/grub/ to /mnt/boot/ now
[21:22] <EriC^> hold on
[21:22] <EriC^> stop
[21:23] <ascot> Hello all, I'm trying to install network-manager in my ubuntu 14.04 minimal installation with openbox and when installed the nm-applet says "NetworkManager is not running". I tried googling for the solution and I did delete two lines in the /etc/network/interfaces which should have fixed the problem but didn't. Anyone have any idea how to enable network manager in a minimal installation?
[21:23] <EriC^> 1 sec guys
[21:23] <publio> yea, I also don't know what you mean by grub files-- grub folder or everthing in /target
[21:23] <publio> sure!
[21:23] <TJ-> EriC^: Go ahead, what's your concern?
[21:23] <EriC^> TJ-: /target to /mnt/boot
[21:23] <TJ-> EriC^: *kicks self*
[21:23] <EriC^> target is the /boot partition and /mnt/boot
[21:23] <EriC^> ...yeah :)
[21:24] <TJ-> publio: OK, you can move the grub files from /mnt/boot/grub to /target/grub/
[21:24]  * TJ- gives EriC^ a big box of choccies :)
[21:25] <publio> well the grub.cfg's don't match, i can tell yout hat
[21:25] <publio> the one in /mnt is larger
[21:25] <TJ-> publio: I bet the one in /target/grub/ is older ?
[21:25] <publio> yes :)
[21:25] <TJ-> publio: /mnt/ is the root file-system, that correct?
[21:25] <publio> it's the main drive, yes
[21:25] <publio> target is my small boot partition
[21:26] <TJ-> publio: OK, just so I don't get doubly confused. So what I said matches the evidence.
[21:27] <publio> yea there're two grubs, probably because of a wrongfully mounted boot
[21:27] <TJ-> publio: It doesn't explain why on these subsequent chroot's you've created whilst I've been helping you, that the grub.cfg has ended up on the root fs though. That would only happen if the /boot/ file-system wasn't ted by "mount -a" so that's something else we need to check
[21:27] <EriC^> yeah
[21:27] <publio> now to move /target/grub to /mnt/boot..
[21:27] <EriC^> i was just thinking that
[21:27] <TJ-> publio: I'm going to re-read the /etc/fstab to be sure it looks correct in light of this
[21:27] <EriC^> it's pretty odd, it's fun though :)
[21:28] <Bashing-om> ascot: Does this file exist now ' /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf ' ?
[21:29] <TJ-> publio: this was the /etc/fstab http://termbin.com/0an3
[21:29] <publio> well, I've run mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot before?
[21:29] <publio> are you looking at the timezones
[21:29] <TJ-> publio: and this the blkid http://paste.ubuntu.com/11827623/
[21:29] <EriC^> TJ-: maybe he didn't run mount -a the last time?
[21:29] <EriC^> aha
[21:29] <EriC^> i think he didn't
[21:29] <publio> nah, last time i did!
[21:29] <EriC^> cause he was saying that /boot/grub/grub.cfg didn't exist when i asked for it
[21:30] <EriC^> then he installed the kernel, and pastebinned it
[21:30] <EriC^> publio: i know, but it somehow wasn't mounted correctly, you said it was in mount
[21:30] <EriC^> but the file wasn't there remember?
[21:30] <TJ-> EriC^: I'm thinking he did but the command failed on the /boot/ device
[21:31] <ascot> Bashing-om: yes, it looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828073/
[21:31] <TJ-> EriC^: and I can think why that may have happened. When fstab uses UUIDs the system has to use the /dev/disk/by-uuid/ symlinks to find the actual device. If those symlinks are missing the command will silently fail
[21:31] <Bashing-om> ascot: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828073/ .
[21:32] <TJ-> EriC^: publio whereas mounting it using "mount /dev/sda1 /boot" will always work
[21:33] <TJ-> publio: Once you've moved those files, ensure that on the root-fs there is only an empty "/mnt/boot/" directory because it is only a mountpoint for the /boot/ file-system
[21:33] <publio> oh move or copy?
[21:34] <TJ-> publio: move them out, there should be nothing in the root-fs's /boot/ directory
[21:34] <TJ-> publio: anything in that directory would be masked when sda1 is mounted on that directory
[21:34] <Ntemis> hey guys
[21:34] <publio> makes sense, I never understood why it was there in the first place!
[21:35] <Ntemis> how i test new grub fixes
[21:35] <Ntemis> i hate when my server stucks on grub after power failure
[21:35] <Bashing-om> ascot: What is the plugin " ofono " . I do not see that as standard .
[21:35] <TJ-> publio: then, "sudo umount /target" to let the boot fs go, then create the chroot on your current /mnt/, and the inside the chroot we can check what is wrong with "mount -a", if anything
[21:35] <Ntemis> am on 14.04.2
[21:35] <publio> I dont want to confuse to moving vs deleting
[21:35] <publio> there are folders in grub
[21:36] <TJ-> publio: we're going to reinstall grub anyhow so don't worry
[21:36] <TJ-> publio: you could just as easily simply delete those files from /mnt/boot/ and it won't matter
[21:37] <publio> TJ-: So I need to run 'rm -r /target/grub' and then 'cp -r /mnt/boot/grub /target/grub'
[21:37] <TJ-> publio: No, no rm!
[21:38] <TJ-> publio: to keep it simple, "rm -rf /mnt/boot/grub" and leave it at that
[21:38] <TJ-> publio: don't worry about moving the files over, we'll recreate them
[21:38] <publio> mnt boot grub are the new files
[21:38] <ascot> Bashing-om: I don't know, I haven't touched that file. I looked at the same file in my Xubuntu 14.04 installation on another computer and it also contains "ofono", so I think that's the default file
[21:38] <TJ-> publio: yes, but in the wrong location!
[21:38] <publio> if /target/grub is old,
[21:39] <publio> shoulnt we delete them
[21:39] <TJ-> publio: /target/grub/ is where those files should have been written to originally
[21:39] <publio> alright, rmd
[21:40] <TJ-> publio: do "rm -rf /mnt/boot/grub" and then "umount /target" and get the chroot ready
[21:40] <publio> rmed*
[21:40] <publio> alright
[21:40] <TJ-> EriC^: publio And in the chroot use "mount -av" so it tells us what its doing!
[21:40] <publio> sure
[21:40] <Bashing-om> ascot: Good technique on your part, so - what does the system report when networking is restarted ' sudo service network-manager restart ' ? maybe we can gets some hints .
[21:42] <publio> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828108/ already on boot
[21:43] <TJ-> publio: "cat /proc/mounts"
[21:43] <ascot> Bashing-om: there is no "network-manager" service, only "networking"
[21:44] <publio> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828115/ :(
[21:44] <EriC^> ascot: don't use tab completion
[21:44] <Bashing-om> ascot: Humm.. checking .
[21:44] <EriC^> it's odd it doesn't show up, but it works
[21:45] <TJ-> Bashing-om: ascot "ofono" is the connman support for some 3G broadband modems
[21:46] <TJ-> EriC^: publio that's because mount uses the /etc/mtab file. publio ,can you "pastebinit /etc/mtab" ?
[21:46] <ascot> EriC^: oh yea you're right, thanks!
[21:47] <publio> TJ-: EriC^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828127/
[21:47] <publio> no grub in /boot
[21:48] <ascot> Bashing-om: sorry I relied on tab completion, here's that is says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828130/
[21:48] <EriC^> publio: TJ- should we remove all files from /boot ?
[21:48] <Bashing-om> TJ-: "ofono" noted thanks .
[21:48] <TJ-> publio: please try "mount -avn"
[21:48] <EriC^> since it's just a mountpoint, do we need them
[21:48] <EriC^> TJ-: before mounting, shouldn't we remove all files?
[21:48] <EriC^> the kernels and whatnot?
[21:48] <publio> TJ-: same output
[21:49] <Bashing-om> ascot: Berry strange the command is not recognized. Maybe go through : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Editing_Network_Settings_in_nm-connection-editor and verify installed properly ?
[21:49] <TJ-> publio: "umount /dev/sda1"
[21:50] <publio> from the chroot?
[21:50] <TJ-> Bashing-om: ascot depending on whether its systemd init or upstart, check that (for upstart) "/etc/init/network-manager.conf" exists ?
[21:50] <publio> whats the difference between that and umount /boot
[21:50] <TJ-> publio: Yes, everything in chroot
[21:50] <TJ-> publio: Because /boot could confuse it, could mean /boot or /mnt/boot
[21:51] <TJ-> publio: right now it is confused we don't want to let it get more confused
[21:51] <publio> TJ-: umount: /boot: not mounted
[21:51] <publio> result of umount /dev/sda1
[21:51] <TJ-> publio: good, that is expected. but now check "cat /proc/mounts" do you see sda1 ?
[21:52] <publio> no
[21:52] <awesomess3> Ubuntu hasn't updated to Firefox 39.0! it was released 5 days ago. response?
[21:52] <EriC^> it wasn't there earlier
[21:52] <TJ-> publio: "/proc/mounts" is the kernel's *live* knowledge of the current mounts it has, as opposed to "/etc/mtab" which is a static text file supposed to be updated by userspace tools
[21:53] <EriC^> was it?
[21:53] <ascot> TJ-: Bashing-om it does exist
[21:53] <EriC^> ah nevermind
[21:53] <TJ-> publio: Now "cat /etc/mtab" ... do you see sda1 /boot there
[21:53] <publio> explains why its readonly
[21:53] <publio> no
[21:54] <TJ-> publio: good :) try "mount -avn" again
[21:54] <publio> TJ-: /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw)
[21:54] <TJ-> publio: :D
[21:54] <publio> hey theres a grub
[21:54] <publio> in there! :)
[21:54] <TJ-> publio: OK ... and check with the kernel for surity: grep boot /proc/mounts"
[21:55] <publio> check
[21:55] <Bashing-om> ascot: The system says it is running, what returns from terminal command ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' ?
[21:55] <TJ-> publio: Finally!!! now we can sort things out :)
[21:55] <publio> TJ-: heh, so it turns out mount -a was mounting the wrong thing too?
[21:55] <TJ-> publio: "update-initramfs -uv -k all |& tee /tmp/initrd.log"
[21:56] <EriC^> publio: try installing the kernels first
[21:56] <TJ-> publio: 'mount' reads mtab to decide what's already mounted. The "-n" option is supposed to stop that happening, but we already had a mtab with the offending entry so the 'umount' was the way to remove that
[21:56] <publio> EriC^: already ran :(
[21:57] <publio> oh i see!
[21:57] <TJ-> publio: no problem... reinstall both kernel version packages then they'll issue the update-initramfs command for themselves
[21:57] <publio> should i try installing the kernels and rerrunning
[21:57] <publio> yea
[21:58] <TJ-> publio: and after that you can do "grub-install /dev/sda" and "update-grub" to be sure everything is in place
[21:58] <ascot> Bashing-om: to answer earlier question, yes I should have installed properly, all I did was "sudo apt-get install network-manager" and rebbot, also removed the twi lines from interfaces config
[21:58] <publio> TJ-: initrd.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828167/
[21:59] <TJ-> publio: looks good "Adding binary /lib/cryptsetup/askpass"
[22:00] <ascot> Bashing-om: the ping worked normaly, I do have internet connection. Do you still need the output?
[22:00] <TJ-> ascot: what does "/etc/network/interfaces" look like right now
[22:00] <publio> TJ-: it installed without any errors.  usual sdb errors on the update.  I only see -54 in there too
[22:00] <TJ-> publio: have you reinstalled -55 yet? that'll do it
[22:00] <EriC^> publio: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.13.0-55-generic
[22:01] <EriC^> *without the sudo
[22:01] <TJ-> publio: ^^^^^^^ as Eric says
[22:02] <TJ-> oooo, another local :)
[22:02] <Bashing-om> ascot: No need to see the output, just to know. Seems  we have a config issue here. not a networking problem. Further, what about ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[22:02] <ascot> TJ-: Bashing-om here it is without the comments: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828185/
[22:02] <publio> TJ-: EriC^: Yup, I see both installed in the output!
[22:02] <TJ-> ascot: that's good
[22:02] <TJ-> publio: ok, move on to the grub commands now
[22:02] <publio> what, I thought that was it?
[22:03] <EriC^> grub-install /dev/sda , then update-grub
[22:03] <DoYouKnow> is there a chatroom for the POWER/POWER8 version of ubuntu?
[22:03] <ascot> Bashing-om: worked fine aswell, no packet loss
[22:03] <TJ-> ascot: did you install resolvconf ?
[22:03] <publio> EriC^: it looked like it ran update-grub.  Also, why do i have to run install AND update?
[22:04] <OerHeks> DoYouKnow, #ubuntu-powerpc
[22:04] <publio> does install install and old version
[22:04] <EriC^> publio: grub-install writes to the mbr , update-grub just builds the grub.cfg file
[22:04] <TJ-> publio: "grub-install" puts the boot-strap and grub boot executable code in place
[22:04] <TJ-> publio: those grub modules in /boot/grub/i386-pc/
[22:04] <publio> oh sure, thats what the man for grub-mkconfig says
[22:04] <DoYouKnow> OerHeks: thanks
[22:05] <TJ-> publio: Tempting fate but I think you're finally sorted :)
[22:05] <publio> Ill run em both!
[22:05] <skinux> How do we completely delete files in "Trash" that are owned by root???
[22:05] <ascot> TJ-: I did not install myself but it is indeed installed
[22:06] <EriC^> skinux: using sudo will delete them
[22:06] <TJ-> ascot: so what is the remaining issue, I've got lost :)
[22:06] <publio> TJ-: EriC^: Yes, got them both in there! :)
[22:06] <publio> I'll reboot and test
[22:06] <EriC^> publio: hold on
[22:06] <skinux> Well, I tried "sudo rm -rf trash:///*", but it didn't work
[22:07] <publio> skinux: try holding shift while clicking del to permanently delete
[22:07] <ascot> TJ-: when i left click on the nm-applet it says "NetworkManager is not running" aswell the right click options are greyed out
[22:07] <EriC^> publio: run umount /dev/sda1, and if /boot has anything clean it up
[22:07] <TJ-> ascot: OK ... what does this report "sudo /usr/sbin/service network-manager status"
[22:07] <publio> oh, to avoid another confusion
[22:07] <skinux> Nope. "Failed to delete item from trash"
[22:07] <EriC^> it shouldn't have the grub dir since you already deleted it, but the kernels and stuff i think are still there
[22:08] <EriC^> so if grub is missing delete the rest so you know /dev/sda1 was unmounted
[22:08] <publio> skinux: never had that problem, fortunately.  Maybe there's something in the syslog that coudl help
[22:08] <publio> wait
[22:08] <TJ-> EriC^: good point, I forgot about those stray files in the root-fs's /boot/    ,,, again!
[22:08] <publio> EriC^: /dev/sda1 not mounted?
[22:08] <ascot> TJ-: network-manager start/running, process 746
[22:09] <TJ-> ascot: Good. so the problem is not network-manager service, it's that nmapplet isn't able to talk to it over DBus
[22:09] <EriC^> publio: yeah we need to unmount it from /boot, and make /boot empty
[22:09] <publio> skinux: maybe they're open, try grepping them in lsof
[22:09] <skinux> They're not open
[22:09] <TJ-> ascot: show us "nmli nm status"
[22:09] <TJ-> ascot: typo! show us "nmcli nm status"
[22:09] <skinux> They're just backups which I haven't touched for quite a while
[22:10] <publio> EriC^: yea /boot has *-generic files in it
[22:10] <EriC^> no grub dir though right?
[22:10] <publio> nope! :)
[22:10] <publio> skinux: maybe a permissions issue, I dunno sorry
[22:11] <pk4771> hello, anyone for help?
[22:11] <skinux> publio: Both directories are owned by root.
[22:11] <EriC^> publio: ok, type rm -r /boot, then mkdir /boot
[22:11] <publio> EriC^: So I'll reboot after I delete them?
[22:11] <publio> EriC^: safe command! I was angling for rm * heh
[22:12] <ydabba> TJ-, problem has been resolved. I cleared my locale file and was able to boot up with no issues
[22:12] <TJ-> ydabba: glad to hear it :)
[22:12] <ydabba> TJ-, thanks for your help. it is people like you that makes this community great :)
[22:12] <ascot> TJ-: I cannot copy the whole output because it's on my laptop, but it says "Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: Rejected send message, ..." I can take a picture and link it if needed
[22:12] <pk4771> I get a blank screen after login, i have twoo users, but if i change the user and login then i get the display.
[22:12] <TJ-> ascot: GREAT :) that confirms that DBus is the issue
[22:13] <EriC^> publio: yeah, once you're done type exit and reboot
[22:13] <pk4771> i tried startx and lightdm restart.. nothing worked
[22:13] <TJ-> ascot: so now we have to figure out why... is dbus missing completely, not started, or is the network-manager DBus interface not running/configured for some reason
[22:14] <TJ-> ascot "sudo /usr/sbin/service dbus status"
[22:14] <skinux> I can't access trash:/// except for using Nautilus (otherwise it says it doesn't exist), yet Nautilus doesn't have permission to delete the directories. And I can't figure out where to navigate to if I open Nautilus as root.
[22:15] <ascot> TJ-: dbus start/running, process 509
[22:15] <EriC^> skinux: the files are in your home dir
[22:15] <Voyage> Hi, When I open a video file, my cpu usage goes to 100% and the video either loses its audio or it gets stuck/blown pixels. I have core2duo dell d620 laptop 2.0GHZ, 5GB ram, 4mb Cache, Kubuntu 14 LTC. What is wrong here?
[22:15] <EriC^> skinux: ~/.local/share/Trash/files
[22:15] <TJ-> ascot: ok, so that might point us to an issue with the network-manager session specifically
[22:16] <skinux> Oh, okay. Directories are deleted now.
[22:17] <marchesini> Voyage, see the quality of video, i think you dont have graphics card, i think it is the issue
[22:17] <Guest8237> I created an upstart script `/etc/init/start_flask.conf`.  When i do `init-checkconf /etc/init/start_flask.conf`, I get "File /etc/init/start_flask.conf: syntax ok".  But, if I manually do `sudo service start_flask start`, i get "start: job failed to start"
[22:17] <Guest8237> this is my upstart script - https://bpaste.net/show/f84e894ff4f0
[22:17] <ascot> TJ-: also from "nmcli nm status" below it says: "Error: nmcli (0.9.8.8) and NetworkManager (unknown) versions don't match. Force execution using --nocheck, but the results are unpredictable"
[22:18] <Voyage> marchesini,  there are builtin graphic cards I guess in cpu. the quality of video? what do you mean? How can I check about graphic card?
[22:18] <marchesini> Voyage, "lspci > lspci.txt"
[22:19] <marchesini> Voyage, try update the codec
[22:19] <TJ-> ascot: well spotted! can you determine what the versions are?
[22:20] <OerHeks> lspci | grep VGA
[22:20] <Voyage> marchesini,  http://pastie.org/10274750
[22:20] <Voyage> OerHeks, ^
[22:21] <TJ-> ascot "apt-cache policy network-manager network-manager-gnome"
[22:21] <marchesini> you have a graphics card but the decode flux run thought the cpu, if the video is FULLHD the processor is high utilized
[22:22] <ascot> TJ-: both are 0.9.8.8
[22:22] <marchesini> it's all ok
[22:22] <TJ-> ascot: weird!
[22:23] <Voyage> marchesini,  so is there a solution?
[22:23] <TJ-> ascot: do they have the complete version match including the XubuntuY extension to the version?
[22:23] <TJ-> ascot: I'm wondering if you've restarted/rebooted the dbus service since (re)installing the network-manager package?
[22:24] <Bashing-om> TJ-: ascot trusty-updates (net): network management framework (daemon and userspace tools) >> 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.1:  for network-manager .
[22:24] <TJ-> ascot: Bashing-om And network-manager-gnome is 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu4.3
[22:24] <marchesini> i don't know what problem you are experiencing, i may say, you already try to clean your computer internally.. if it don't solve the problem try reinstalling the system with a lts version
[22:25] <ascot> TJ-: network-manager: 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu7.1 0 and network-manager-gnome: 0.9.8.8-0ubuntu4.3 0
[22:25] <Bashing-om> ascot: gnome desktop ?
[22:25] <TJ-> ascot: OK ... packages match, but it may be there's some dbus artifact still running a different service version
[22:25] <ascot> TJ-: I don't think I have restarted dbus
[22:26] <TJ-> ascot: "sudo /usr/sbin/service dbus restart"
[22:26] <ascot> Bashing-om: TJ- it's only openbox
[22:27] <TJ-> ascot: I wonder if it's something to do with openbox not providing a user session dbus... can't recall now exactly how nm-applet behaves in that respect
[22:27] <ascot> TJ-: the icon dissapeared, should I restart computer?
[22:28] <Voyage> marchesini,  did that already. reinstalled
[22:28] <TJ-> ascot: No, log out and log in again to the user session
[22:28] <ascot> TJ-: same as before
[22:29] <Voyage> marchesini,  the kde plasma and xorg process also goes high cpu usage some times.
[22:29] <marchesini> Voyage, try a memory test
[22:30] <Voyage> marchesini,  hm ok. what to observe there?
[22:30] <Voyage> memory test is ram test. right?
[22:30] <TJ-> ascot: what is in "$HOME/.xinitrc" - any sign of "dbus-launch --exit-with-session openbox"
[22:30] <Xubuntudude> Hello all, I changed my superkey to open my whisker menu and now I need to change it to super key + something else, but I can't remember how I changed it
[22:30] <marchesini> reboot the system, and in the first window of boot select the "memtest x86"
[22:30] <Voyage> yes
[22:30] <Voyage> I am 64bit though
[22:30] <Xubuntudude> with it just the super key by its self its very annoying lol
[22:30] <TJ-> EriC^: should we be concerned that publio hasn't returned?
[22:31] <Voyage> marchesini,  but mem test is for ram. not cpu
[22:31] <marchesini> nop, some memory errors lead very memory usage or system crash
[22:31] <ascot> TJ-: I don't have .xinitrc in my home directory
[22:31] <Voyage> marchesini,  yes, but my ram usage is fine. only cpu goes 100%
[22:32] <marchesini> it is ok guy, all normal.
[22:32] <marchesini> if you desire you can try some tests, but it is all okay
[22:32] <TJ-> ascot: I'm reading that setting is required, but the posts I'm reading are dated 2008, so I'm not sure if that is done elsewhere in openbox now. However, I'm pretty sure this missing dbus session-bus is the issue
[22:32] <Voyage> marchesini,  sorry?
[22:32] <marchesini> all ok
[22:32] <TJ-> ascot: It's worth adding that file with that line in it, then doing a log-out/log-in once more to test it
[22:32] <marchesini> no worry
[22:32] <Voyage> marchesini,  ok. can you tell me the video codes package for kubuntu?
[22:33] <ascot> TJ-: I'll add it then and test out
[22:34] <OerHeks> Voyage, intel is supported by the kernel for ages, that Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 is just not that advanced, so high cpu is normal
[22:34] <OerHeks> newer driver package from intel do not improve the quality AFAIK
[22:35] <Voyage> hm
[22:35] <Voyage> OerHeks,   the kde plasma and xorg process also goes high cpu usage some times.
[22:35] <ascot> TJ-: didn't help
[22:35] <Bashing-om> ascot: TJ- Does openbix have am 'autostart' application similar http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2228136 ; where network-manager is enabled ?
[22:36] <OerHeks> Voyage, try a lighter desktop, like xubuntu, but still high CPU with video is normal even then
[22:36] <Voyage> OerHeks,  good idea, How do I install xubuntu ?
[22:37] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop # and logout/change desktop and login
[22:37] <OerHeks> err xubuntu-desktop*
[22:37] <TJ-> ascot: I think you're close. there's some issue with nm-applet unable to communicate over DBus
[22:37] <Voyage> OerHeks,  ok, what is the purpose of xubuntu? is it the same kubuntu underneath but just a different desktop env?
[22:38] <ascot> Bashing-om: TJ- yes I do have nm-applet.desktop in that folder
[22:38] <OerHeks> different apps and such
[22:39] <Voyage> OerHeks,  ok
[22:39] <Voyage> I can still swtich between kubuntu and xubuntu anytime?
[22:40] <ascot> TJ-: Bashing-om I just found this thread https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143640 which had the same error and suggests that "sudo nm-applet" worked, which it did!
[22:40] <Voyage> OerHeks,  <holstein> but, installing "xubuntu-desktop" could cause issues.. with your current kubuntu install so, i suggest installing xfce4
[22:40] <TJ-> ascot: Right, so nm-applet is connecting over the system bus (which needs root privs)
[22:41] <ascot> TJ-: Bashing-om so editing /etc/dbus-1/system.d/org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.conf as described in the middle should work?
[22:41] <TJ-> ascot: so it might be a polkit issue
[22:42] <Xubuntudude> can i reset the functions for the super key back to original settings?
[22:42] <Xubuntudude> where would I do that?
[22:43] <TJ-> ascot: post #12 looks more like the correct solution
[22:44] <ascot> TJ-: oh yea I also installed lxdm
[22:45] <ascot> TJ-: whould I try #12 then?
[22:46] <OGGo> Hello! I have a machine with phenom 970 be, gigabyte 880gm-d2h, 4gigs ram and radeon 4250 igpu. I had horrible performance problems where unity would be extremely slow and laggy to the point of being unusable. I see that on drivers page of ubuntu site, they list 4250 as fully 3d supported. IF I install 15.04, can I expect zero performance issues or acceptable performance?
[22:47] <TJ-> ascot: check what your existing "etc/pam.d/lxdm" looks like
[22:47] <OGGo> I had problems on al previous versions including the recent lts
[22:47] <TJ-> OGGo: did you use the AMD fglrx drivers?
[22:48] <OGGo> open source drivers, fglrx is only supported on very old lts releases
[22:48] <OGGo> for my card, i mean
[22:48] <OerHeks> OGGo, ATI 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are only supported by the open driver AFAIK, upgrade your GPU would increase performance dramaticly
[22:49] <ascot> TJ-: it similar to the posters prior configuration with some additional lines
[22:49] <TJ-> OGGo: OK, so radeon... did you check with 'glxinfo'  that direct rendering was in use?
[22:49] <OGGo> but they list the radeon open driver as fully 3d supported now, i just want acceptable perrformance even if not the best. the previous releases were laggy to being unusable
[22:50] <TJ-> ascot: is your system using systemd init?
[22:50] <Xubuntudude> fixed it, thanks, have a great day guys
[22:50] <TJ-> ascot: the key line in the #12 post is "-session optional pam_systemd.so"
[22:51] <OGGo> yes, over the two years I tried, with many releases, direct render was always enabled and the people on radeon channel had me try everything and they said they didn't know what the problem was. i have temporarily installed win 7 for now
[22:52] <TJ-> OGGo: that's got to be frustrating!
[22:52] <OGGo> I was hoping since they now have the card listed as 'fully supported' on the official driver support page on ubuntu, that the new release might work
[22:52] <OerHeks> OGGo, what is the windows score for video ? 2.0 ?
[22:53] <publio> EriC^: TJ-: It worked! It finally booted, thanks a lot for your help.
[22:53] <OGGo> 4.2
[22:53] <TJ-> OGGo: do you know which revision of the motherboard you have, 1.x, 3.1, or 4.0 ?
[22:53] <ascot> TJ-: I'm using the default Ubuntu 14.04 minimal installation, so I should be using upstart right? Also the poster deleted two lines that contains "pam_gnome_keyring.so" on the right
[22:53] <OGGo> but that's the default, the score sometimes changes on a recheck
[22:53] <TJ-> publio: YAY! I was getting concerned you were gone so long
[22:53] <TJ-> ascot: yes, you should
[22:54] <publio> TJ-: Yeh, I had to boot my livecd again I'm afraid-- no wireless networking, or mouse I'm afraid :(
[22:54] <TJ-> ascot: those gnome-keyring lines are required to help the session... see the following post where someone points out to put those back
[22:54] <publio> Got 2 report system problem errors too, tho they might have been there before because of my low disk space
[22:54] <ascot> TJ-: yea just noticed, so I should add that last line then?
[22:54] <OGGo> t3 i have the 3.1 mothermoabd
[22:54] <TJ-> publio: Really!? no mouse?
[22:54] <OGGo> TJ-:
[22:55] <TJ-> ascot: only if you're using systemd init, which you're not, so I think your first idea is the more likely... edit the dbus control file entry
[22:55] <publio> TJ-: Yea, the trackpad works, just not the wireless mouse... I had trouble with the trackpad before, but nothing a restart wouldnt fix
[22:55] <TJ-> publio: wireless mouse... Bluetooth? Is the rfkill hardware switch affecting that? does it work in the Live env?
[22:56] <publio> sure, on the livecd wifi and wireless both work fine.  It's not bluetooth-- has a small usb plugin.  However, I did see a 'bluetoothd server init failed' in my syslog
[22:57] <OGGo> OerHeks: does the video score 4.2 tell you anything?
[22:57] <TJ-> OGGo: So that mobo has UEFI support?
[22:58] <TJ-> publio: and the usb plugin isn't a Bluetooth dongle?
[22:58] <OGGo> OerHeks: and in addition, gaming graphics on win 7 is listed seeparately as 5.4
[22:58] <OGGo> TJ-: I don't believe so if you mean the secureboot thing
[22:58] <TJ-> publio: in the Live env do "pastebinit <( lsusb )"
[22:59] <OerHeks> OGGo, card is not that bad.
[22:59] <publio> TJ-: heh, honestly, I don't know!
[22:59] <TJ-> OGGo: I'm looking on the Gigabyte support site for the mobo revision and at the 'BIOS' updates, and they mention UEFI which suggests that 3.1 uses UEFI
[23:00] <publio> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828368/ bluetooth!
[23:00] <OGGo> TJ-: can you clarify if it's the same thing as the 'secureboot',since 2012, no distro has required me to do anything special for boot process
[23:00] <ascot> TJ-: after reboot the icon is available but I cannot edit the connections and when I click "Auto Ethernet" from the left click, is says "Failed to add/activate connection\n (32) Not authorized to control networking"
[23:01] <TJ-> ascot: Is that including still starting nm-applet with "sudo" - that will be running as root
[23:01] <publio> TJ-: I thought the wifi problem might be caused by my copying /etc/resolv.conf.  So I changed that to a loopback (default?), but that didn't fix it
[23:01] <TJ-> OGGo: SecureBoot isn't required or visible for most UEFI installs
[23:01] <ascot> TJ-: no, sudo nm-applet works as expected
[23:02] <TJ-> publio: "/etc/resolv.conf" should be a symbolic link to "/run/resolvconf/resolv.conf" (use "ls -l" to check)
[23:03] <OGGo> TJ-: does uefi have any bearing on distro performance? I didn't see any uefi related info in my bios settings, but I do not have a perfect idea of how uefi works and what it does. If it does have uefi, can I do something to improve the performance then?
[23:03] <TJ-> ascot: I'm not sure then; it looks like an LXDE/Openbox issue with either the user session dbus or authentication
[23:04] <TJ-> OGGo: No, but I asked since I was wondering if there may be a more recent firmware image for your mobo that might fix known performance bugs in the video side
[23:04] <publio> TJ-: Sure, it is
[23:04] <TJ-> OGGo: check at: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3888#bios
[23:04] <publio> TJ-: Wait, it isnt!
[23:04] <OGGo> TJ-: I have tried all the recent bios updates listed, included the Beta, but to no effect
[23:04] <TJ-> publio: Is this in the live env?
[23:04] <publio> TJ-: accidently cded to the livecd
[23:05] <publio> TJ-: nah the livecd is a link, just not the one in /mnt/etc
[23:05] <TJ-> OGGo: OK. I'm afraid I'm out of ideas then, I can't think much will have changed... but you can test it using a Live ISO without needing to install
[23:05] <publio> TJ-: It's because I copied the livecd one to that, and didn't make it a link back
[23:05] <TJ-> publio: OK, that isn't going to help the installed env :) do you want to fix that ?
[23:06] <OGGo> TJ-: I guess I'll just try an install, with the main few desktops that have gone 3d, I don't know whether live environment will give actual performance impresssions
[23:06] <publio> TJ-: just run ln -s?
[23:06] <TJ-> OGGo: no difference as long as you don't need to install proprietary drivers, as you don't
[23:07] <publio> TJ-: ln -s ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf
[23:07] <OGGo> alright. thanks
[23:07] <TJ-> publio: if you're outside a chroot then "cd /mnt/" then "ln -sf /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf
[23:07] <TJ-> publio: if you're outside a chroot then "cd /mnt/" then "ln -sf /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf etc/resolv.conf
[23:07] <atsu333> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble getting audio configured. I'm using a USB audio interface(small cheap brand, so no official drivers) is there any 'universal' driver just to get audio out?
[23:07] <TJ-> publio: sorry, typo first time
[23:07] <publio> nah, Im in a chroot
[23:07] <publio> no
[23:07] <publio> not sorry
[23:07] <publio> heh, this is getting tiring :)
[23:08] <TJ-> publio: so "cd /mnt/" then "ln -sf /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf    etc/resolv.conf" ( no leading / on that last path)
[23:09] <publio> TJ-: looks good.  But could that have caused the mouse error too?
[23:10] <publio> TJ-: there's nothing regarding bluetooth or mouses in resolv.conf on my livecd
[23:10] <TJ-> publio: no, you said you saw a bluetooth service error message
[23:10] <TJ-> publio: can you "pastebinit /mnt/var/log/syslog" ?
[23:11] <TJ-> publio: see if we can find out why the BT service i failing
[23:11] <publio> TJ-: syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828408/
[23:11] <Voyage> sudo apt-get install xfc4
[23:11] <Voyage>      E: Unable to locate package xfc4
[23:12] <Bashing-om> Voyage: The package is xfce4 .
[23:13] <Voyage> hm
[23:14] <OerHeks> I am not sure why xubuntu-desktop should give trouble. never seen that AFAIK
[23:14] <publio> TJ-: Maybe my kernel is missing a bluetooth module?
[23:15] <ubuntu-mate> quit
[23:16] <TJ-> publio: there's plenty of errors about it to digest :)
[23:16] <publio> TJ-: I was hoping all the bluetooth errors were caused by the server failing to start
[23:17] <TJ-> publio: are you in the chroot?
[23:17] <publio> nah
[23:17] <TJ-> publio: if not, set it up, then in it do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install bluez"
[23:20] <publio> TJ-: Alright, it says linux-headers-generic is no longer needed, run autoremove, but I guess I can leave it
[23:21] <TJ-> publio: That suggests the headers specific to the kernel versions also need installing
[23:22] <TJ-> publio: "apt-get --reinstall install linux-headers-3.13.0{54,55}-generic"
[23:22] <TJ-> publio: typo again, that should be:  "apt-get --reinstall install linux-headers-3.13.0-{54,55}-generic"
[23:23] <publio> TJ-: Installing linux-headers-3.13.0-54 linux-headers-3.13.0-54-generic
[23:24] <TJ-> publio: great. After that, exit the chroot and let me have the live env syslog for comparison; I'm checking the trackpad. "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[23:24] <publio> TJ-: alright, should I try installing bluez again to check on the autoremove
[23:24] <TJ-> publio: you can simply do "apt-get -f install" for that
[23:25] <publio> still there
[23:26] <TJ-> publio: that's strange. It should be installed and not warning. "apt-get install linux-headers-generic" might shut it up
[23:27] <publio> TJ-: already the newest version
[23:27] <publio> maybe reinstall? is that dangerous
[23:27] <TJ-> publio: in the syslog pastebin, line 3144 is where the trackpad is detected and configured
[23:27] <TJ-> publio: try "apt-get -f install" for that again
[23:27] <TJ-> publio: when you get there, that's what I want to compare with the live env's syslog file
[23:28] <publio> TJ-: its clean!
[23:28] <TJ-> publio: we're doing well here... now that syslog :)
[23:28] <publio> I see, i think its time to exit and get it
[23:28] <publio> right
[23:28] <TJ-> publio: brb... coffee time ... past midnight here
[23:29] <publio> TJ-: dinner time myself
[23:29] <publio> TJ-: livecd syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828471/
[23:31] <publio> TJ-: It doesn't query for max coordinates (line 3144 on old), but the rest is there
[23:36] <TJ-> publio: there's a lot of very worrying I/O errors on that Live ISO USB!!!
[23:39] <TJ-> publio: is the Live env Ubuntu 14.10 but the installed 14.04 LTS ? That would explain some of the differences
[23:40] <publio> the livecd is 14.04; it's lts on the system
[23:41] <publio> TJ-: Maybe the bluez reinstall will fix the mouse?
[23:42] <TJ-> publio: the bluetooth issues definitely look to be kernel modules not loading, but having reinstalled the kernel images those files should be good. Therefore it could be that there are some blacklist entries stopping the modules loading: can you show me "pastebinit <( ls -latr /mnt/etc/modprobe.d/ )"
[23:43] <publio> TJ-: of course-- http://paste.ubuntu.com/11828535/
[23:44] <TJ-> publio: the kernel version for the Live env is 3.16 which is Ubuntu 14.10 Utopic
[23:45] <publio> TJ-: That's odd.  I see 14.04.2 LTS in the lsb_release description
[23:45] <publio> TJ-: I guess it doesn't matter
[23:46] <TJ-> publio: see if this gives any hits: "grep blue /etc/modprobe.d/*"
[23:47] <publio> TJ-: empty?
[23:48] <publio> wait but
[23:48] <publio> im not chrooted now I think?
[23:48] <publio> yes, Im on the livecd.. where it works
[23:48] <publio> TJ-: Maybe I can restart, and at least come in the room off the machine with the problem?
[23:49] <TJ-> publio: and for later reference for yourself, to compare with when you reboot into the installed system, do "lsmod | grep blue" to let you know which kernel modules are currently loaded to enable BT to work. If you don't see the same for the installed system you can try manually loading the modules in the list on the right side, using "sudo modprobe <module-name>" for each one
[23:49] <TJ-> publio: Yes, great idea. Save the list into the installed system with "lsmod > /mnt/live-mods.list"
[23:50] <TJ-> publio: when you reboot into it, you can use it as a reference from "/live-mods.list"
[23:51] <publio> TJ-: brb
[23:54] <Zebra111> Hi, can anyone help me with my problem? http://askubuntu.com/questions/644817/choppy-cursor-when-keys-pressed thanks!
[23:57] <TJ-> Zebra111: that sounds like a ps2 serial port configuration issue
[23:57] <Zebra111> TJ-: how would I be able to configure it correctly?
[23:58] <TJ-> Zebra111: having looked at the askubuntu though, if it happens with a USB mouse and USB keyboard, then ps2 port config won't be the cause
[23:59] <Zebra111> Oh ok
[23:59] <publio> TJ-: Afraid neither wifi or the mouse worked.  I couldn't load one of the modules-- gave a not found error