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=== lazyPower changed the topic of #juju to: Welcome to Juju! || Office Hours, here 20 August 2000UTC || Docs: http://juju.ubuntu.com/docs || FAQ: http://goo.gl/MsNu4I || Review Queue: http://review.juju.solutions || Unanswered Questions: http://goo.gl/dNj8CP | ||
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jose | lazyPower: what about the 7/9 office hours? | 15:19 |
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lazyPower | jose: i dont have that on my calendar, jcastro - do we have office hours 7/9? | 15:19 |
jcastro | we do | 15:20 |
jcastro | let me check | 15:20 |
lazyPower | we do - i jsut found it >.> | 15:20 |
jcastro | yes, indeed, we have them | 15:20 |
lazyPower | calendar search didn't return 7/9 in the search results | 15:20 |
jose | afaik it's every 3 weeks :) | 15:20 |
jcastro | I'll send a reminder | 15:20 |
=== lazyPower changed the topic of #juju to: Welcome to Juju! || Office Hours, here July 9'th 2000UTC || Docs: http://juju.ubuntu.com/docs || FAQ: http://goo.gl/MsNu4I || Review Queue: http://review.juju.solutions || Unanswered Questions: http://goo.gl/dNj8CP | ||
lazyPower | jose: thanks for catching that :) | 15:21 |
puzzolo | One question dudes, is it possible to deploy openstack services with juju, on a lxd container? | 15:32 |
puzzolo | this lxd does something magic i would like to try. Still few docs on how to implement an openstack install lxd-based | 15:33 |
jrwren | puzzolo: I'm curious. Why lxd instead of lxc for this use? | 15:37 |
puzzolo | lxd *seems* a better effort to integration with openstack | 15:39 |
puzzolo | and a semplification in lxc containers creation (integration with glance?) | 15:40 |
jrwren | puzzolo: oh, I misunderstood. I thought you wanted to deploy openstack. | 15:41 |
puzzolo | sure i do. That is what i was curious. Does deploying with lxd instead of lxc make any sense? Or should i go with just lxc? | 15:41 |
jrwren | puzzolo: deploying openstack with lxc does not preclude using the lxd nova driver. | 15:43 |
puzzolo | oook. One last question jrwren. Are there juju charms for a lxc high-availability deployment with less hardware then 28 servers? | 15:44 |
jrwren | puzzolo: I'm sorry, I do not know. | 15:45 |
puzzolo | okok. I'll dig into it after a simple install. | 15:45 |
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jcastro | puzzolo: you're probably looking for this: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/05/06/introduction-to-nova-compute-lxd/ | 15:57 |
jcastro | https://github.com/lxc/nova-compute-lxd | 15:57 |
jcastro | beisner: heya, you guys wanna check these out: | 15:59 |
jcastro | http://askubuntu.com/questions/639655/can-juju-interact-with-already-installed-openstack-service | 15:59 |
jcastro | http://askubuntu.com/questions/637341/how-to-prevent-juju-from-overwriting-heat-conf-file | 15:59 |
jcastro | puzzolo: but I don't think juju can deploy to individual containers yet? | 16:03 |
Destreyf_ | jcastro: you can do juju deploy --to lxc:<host> <charm> | 16:03 |
Destreyf_ | but | 16:03 |
Destreyf_ | i tried to use juju with openstack and containers | 16:04 |
Destreyf_ | its not very easy | 16:04 |
jcastro | yeah I was under the impression that that area was still under heavy development | 16:04 |
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Destreyf_ | well the issue is openstack doesnt' play well with LXV | 16:11 |
Destreyf_ | LXC* | 16:11 |
Destreyf_ | so what you have to do is keep the hypervisor (nova-compute) out of LXC | 16:12 |
Destreyf_ | as well as ceph (if you use it) | 16:12 |
Destreyf_ | and then if you plan on having say 3 (or more) servers you need some sort of networking to get from the LXC containers on each node | 16:12 |
Destreyf_ | flannel works, but its still just not quite enough to get fully running | 16:12 |
Destreyf_ | i spent about a week trying to get it working and i concluded that it wasn't worth it | 16:12 |
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puzzolo | Destreyf: juju suggests maas for nova-compute quantum-gateway and neutron-openvswitch | 18:35 |
puzzolo | 20:10 -!- liam_ is now known as Guest20028 | 18:35 |
puzzolo | f*ck https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/OpenStackCharms/ProviderColocationSupport | 18:36 |
Destreyf | Yup | 18:36 |
Destreyf | that's what i had happen | 18:36 |
Destreyf | XD | 18:36 |
puzzolo | so from your experience, lxc goes well for openstack ... when you don't mess with nova-compute, quantum-gateway and neutron-openvswitch... which need seperate hardware. Still you can deploy nova-compute with neutron-openvswitch maas. and seperated quantum-gateway. | 18:40 |
puzzolo | nova-compute hardware can support nova-compute-lxd in the same hardware... All seems a bit messy playground | 18:41 |
puzzolo | so a working hypotesis, could be: | 18:43 |
puzzolo | lxc0: cinder (ceph backend), glance,keystone,nova-cloud-controller,neutronapi,ceilometer,ceilometer-agent,heat,ceph/ceph-osd(with directory and no blockdevice - kinda sucks),swift-proxy,openstack-dashboard | 18:45 |
puzzolo | and heat | 18:47 |
puzzolo | maas1: nova-compute,swift-storage | 18:47 |
puzzolo | maas2: quantum-gateway | 18:47 |
puzzolo | One question... can maas be used with lxc containers as well? | 18:48 |
puzzolo | like maas: nova-compute, swift-storage.... and on same hardware lxc keystone, lxc neutron-api | 18:49 |
puzzolo | ? | 18:49 |
puzzolo | ok quantum and neutron are just a renaming | 18:52 |
puzzolo | ok wrong again: | 18:56 |
puzzolo | lxc0: cinder (ceph backend), lxc1: glance lxc2: keystone lxc3: nova-cloud-controller lxc4: neutronapi lxc5: ceilometer lxc6: ceilometer-agent, lxc7: heat lxc8: ceph/ceph-osd(with directory and no blockdevice - kinda sucks) lxc9: swift-proxy lxc10: openstack-dashboard | 18:56 |
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jamespage | puzzolo, hey - you might find https://jujucharms.com/openstack-base/ a useful reference - its a four physical node openstack cloud, used lxc containers for the control plan. | 20:46 |
Spizmar | I'm having an issue with juju requesting provisioning from MAAS. | 21:39 |
Spizmar | http://askubuntu.com/questions/631598/maas-juju-not-provisioning-in-parallel | 21:39 |
Spizmar | That is the URL of the question. Basic problen is that juju only requests 1 machine at a time from MAAS, and does not ask for another until MAAS has finished provisioning. | 21:40 |
Spizmar | this takes awhile for 40 machines, and would be a killer for 1000 nodes. | 21:41 |
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apuimedo | lazyPower: ping | 23:30 |
apuimedo | jamespage: ping | 23:31 |
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apuimedo | mbruzek: ping | 23:54 |
mbruzek | apuimedo: pong | 23:54 |
apuimedo | :-) | 23:54 |
apuimedo | Hey | 23:54 |
apuimedo | how are you? | 23:54 |
mbruzek | Hello! | 23:54 |
mbruzek | I am well. What can I do for you ? | 23:55 |
apuimedo | how can I see what's the review queue like? | 23:55 |
mbruzek | Oh! Let me get you the link. | 23:55 |
mbruzek | http://review.juju.solutions/ | 23:55 |
apuimedo | thanks | 23:55 |
apuimedo | mbruzek: I have https://code.launchpad.net/~celebdor/charms/precise/cassandra/hostname_resolve | 23:56 |
mbruzek | What bug number or charm name are you looking for? If it is NOT in the queue I can help you get it in there. | 23:56 |
apuimedo | in which I was using the launchpad "propose for merge" | 23:56 |
apuimedo | but it's already a veeeeery long time | 23:57 |
apuimedo | and I'm wondering if that "propose for merge" thing is something the team looks at at all | 23:57 |
mbruzek | It is, but I do not see it in the queue. | 23:58 |
mbruzek | let me look | 23:58 |
mbruzek | I see " On hold for merging into lp:charms/cassandra" | 23:58 |
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apuimedo | mbruzek: anything I can do? I've been trying to ping Charles and James, but I have had trouble finding them ;-) | 23:59 |
mbruzek | Antoni you just edited 2 files? | 23:59 |
apuimedo | I re-verified that it works | 23:59 |
apuimedo | yes | 23:59 |
mbruzek | Antoni *I* will help you with this. | 23:59 |
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