[01:13] <hhit> hi
[02:56] <vbgunz> Does anyone know a simple and painless way to upgrade to KDE 15.04.3?
[02:57] <valorie> not yet, we've not got it packaged
[02:57] <valorie> afaik
[02:57] <valorie> help always welcome!
[02:58] <vbgunz> thanks valorie, I wish I could, it's chinese to me :/
[03:06] <mintx_> Hai
[03:06] <mintx_> Is it possible to take the DE from kubuntu 15.04 and put it on another distro?
[03:07] <vbgunz> mintx_: it's only KDE 15.04
[03:08] <vbgunz> it's not exclusive to kubuntu
[03:08] <mintx_> what do you mean?
[03:08] <mintx_> when I do apt-get install kde-full it looks different
[03:08] <vbgunz> the DE in Kubuntu is not special only for Kubuntu. Fedora, Debian, Arch, all the distros support KDE and there is a 99% chance it'll be in whatever native repository your distro supports
[03:09] <vbgunz> probably a theme issue
[03:09] <vbgunz> some distros don't support the look and feel but the DE, yes. the theme by default in Kubuntu is Breeze
[03:10] <vbgunz> Go look into your themes for Breeze
[03:15] <mintx_> How do I install kde 15.04? kde-full is the same right?
[03:17] <pr0metheu5> can I ask why you don't want to use kubuntu? just curious, as I was about to install it
[03:17] <pr0metheu5> and what do you want to install KDE on, mint?
[03:22] <vbgunz> mintx_: depends on what distro you're using, not all are as up to date as Kubuntu 15.04. Distros vary between older and newer versions of KDE.
[03:29] <mintx_> I have Debian 8.1 but im thinking of just installing kubuntu idk
[03:30] <mintx_> pr0metheu5: I don't use mint xD but I don't want to install it because I like the fact that debian only uses free software and kubuntu uses a lot of non-free software.
[03:30] <pr0metheu5> aah
[03:31] <pr0metheu5> but you've been enjoyed KDE Plasma 5, I take it?
[03:31] <pr0metheu5> I ran the live cd to check it out, and I was definitely impressed by how it looks now
[03:31] <pr0metheu5> it's sad that things seem to be going weird for it, there are even rumors 15.10 might be the last release ever
[03:31] <mintx_> I've enjoyed some of it except for the look, I'd like it to look the way it does on kubuntu
[03:31] <vbgunz> mintx_: Kubuntu 15.04 is very far from solid. if stability is important to you, stop dead in your tracks now. Kubuntu 15.04 is for fun and testing.
[03:32] <mintx_> vbgunz: I might just do that then :P
[03:33] <mintx_> Stability isn't a huge deal for me I still don't like a lot of things about debian I'm just messing around with new distros figuring out which one I'd like to use long term
[03:34] <vbgunz> mintx_: I'm currently on it myself but have not upgraded from 14.10 to it. I just mount my old stable distro and access it in case I need to send/receive something. Other than that, I'm just testing it and I love and hate it. Keep testing until you're satisfied that where it fails won't affect you much.
[03:35] <mintx_> Is it possible to have debian and kubuntu both on 1 HDD , but have it so that they can each access a partition of the drive to store and share files?
[03:35] <vbgunz> yes
[03:36] <mintx_> How would I go about setting up that storage partition?
[03:36] <vbgunz> all you'll need is free space. I use partition manager and it can help with that otherwise gparted (I think) is a good solution for a gui on doing that
[03:36] <mintx_> I have free space xP but how should I format it?
[03:36] <vbgunz> all you want to do is make free space, then boot an installation disk and point the installation to the new free spaced partition
[03:38] <vbgunz> when it comes to the boot loader, you might not want to rush installing it where your current boot loader sits. you can install the bootloader on your free partition. When you boot back into Debian, just do a sudo update-grub and that *should* pick up Kubuntu and offer it to you as an option on next boot
[03:38] <valorie> 15.04 is relatively stable for me, vbgunz
[03:38] <valorie> pr0metheu5: don't listen to rumors
[03:39] <valorie> if you want kubuntu to go forward, as always, pitch in a make it happen
[03:39] <valorie> and make it happen I mean
[03:39] <vbgunz> valorie: I honestly don't go messing with configuration files or go doing anything I think is out of the ordinary. I honestly saw in a day, perhaps a hundred crash dialogs
[03:39] <mintx_> ^ true I don't think anything open source ever really dies
[03:39] <valorie> wow
[03:40] <valorie> vbgunz: you said above that packaging seems like chinese to you, but you seem to know a lot
[03:40] <pr0metheu5> welp, gonna go ahead and install kubuntu 15.04 right now
[03:40] <valorie> if you are getting crashes though, bug reports are welcome and useful
[03:41] <pr0metheu5> I would like some stability, but let's see how it goes
[03:41] <pr0metheu5> and yeah, will def. send reports
[03:41] <valorie> great
[03:41] <valorie> the secret for me, if I know the packagename, is the cli: `ubuntu-bug packagename`
[03:42] <valorie> makes filing bug reports dead easy
[03:42] <vbgunz> I wish I was kidding, I've been a hard core Ubuntu fan for 7-8 years. I love Kubuntu and love KDE since 3.5. I'm hoping going forward it gets better, I'm really hoping
[03:42] <valorie> of course if they are in KDE and not our packaging, then bugs need to be filed in the KDE bugtracker as well
[03:42] <valorie> vbgunz: everybody starts where they are
[03:44] <vbgunz> valorie: you know what I wish was an option. silent automatic bug reporting. honestly, I don't mind sending anything you need, I do this with almost any app that ask.
[03:44] <mintx_> HOw do I shrink my ext4 partition that debian is on to get free space for kubuntu
[03:44] <mintx_> Im in gparted idk
[03:44] <vbgunz> I mean, I gotta love the app and trust it but the second they say want to send us information, I agree to it
[03:45] <valorie> that's great, vbgunz
[03:45] <vbgunz> mintx_: not sure I don't have it but I am certain it should be a bit intuitive. look to resize your Debian partition, is that an option?
[03:46] <valorie> mintx_: don't you just move the slider?
[03:46] <valorie> it's been awhile since i did that
[03:46] <mintx_> well it has a picture of a key next to it even though I opened gparted as SU , and when i do resize it wont let me
[03:46] <mintx_> it says minimum size and max size are the whole disk
[03:47] <valorie> you shouldn't open the application as SU
[03:47] <valorie> you will be prompted to give your passw if that is needed
[03:47] <mintx_> oh thought i should since im partitioning the root partition
[03:47] <valorie> if you are prompted, yes
[03:48] <valorie> you screw up permissions if you run as root when you should not
[03:48] <valorie> !sudo
[03:49] <mintx_> damn its still saying that the minimum size for it is the whole partition
[03:49] <valorie> it should have been gksu or kdesudo if necessary anyway
[03:49] <mintx_> maybe I should just say fuck debian and I'll reformat the whole drive to install kubuntu, then I'll leave space to reinstall debian if i want it
[03:50] <valorie> you might look at that last link that ubottu sent you to fix any permission problems
[03:50] <valorie> language please
[03:50] <mintx_> lol
[03:50] <vbgunz> mintx_: try partition manager from KDE
[03:51] <mintx_> I don't have permission problems with sudo already have it configured
[03:51] <valorie> I don't know if a permissions problem is why you are getting that report
[03:51] <mintx_> vbgunz: whats it called
[03:51] <valorie> but it is likely
[03:51] <vbgunz> sudo apt-get install partitionmanager... although I believe gparted should do it, I just made 50g free on my Windows partition to test Kubuntu 15.04. it worked for me and was intuitive. maybe it'll work for you?
[03:51] <valorie> partitionmanager
[03:51] <valorie> or perhaps with a dash inside
[03:52] <mintx_> fuck it I know for sure I have like 150gb free on windows so I'll just shrink that one again.
[03:52] <mintx_> sorry
[03:52] <mintx_> language my bad
[03:52] <vbgunz> it's all good, you catching yourself is a good thing :)
[03:54] <mintx_> Okay I'm gonna go shrink windows and install kubuntu ill brb.
[03:55] <vbgunz> mintx_: cool, worse comes to worse, you realize you don't like it, it should be easy to extend the partition back for Windows (Windows is always happy to nuke a Linux partition)
[03:56] <mintx_> it sure is lmao
[04:02] <mintx_> wait , before I go, how much swap should I have for kubuntu?
[04:02] <valorie> I never set up swap
[04:03] <valorie> !swap
[04:04] <mintx_> Okay thanks, and you should xD
[04:04] <valorie> probably
[04:05] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE Plasma 5 on Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) powered by Linux 3.19.0-21-generic, CPU: AMD Turion(tm) X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-74 at 2200 MHz, RAM: 3551/3785 MB, Storage: 404/683 GB, 193 procs, 4.62h up
[04:05] <valorie> old laptop
[04:39] <fewcha_> Can somebody tell me how to install Qt 5.4 in Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS ?
[04:40] <mintx> Omgg this is the longest install ive had xD
[04:40] <valorie> fewcha_: you cannot
[04:41] <fewcha_> valorie: okay
[04:41] <valorie> our first Qt5 release was 15.04
[04:41] <fewcha_> so if I want to build plasma-mediacenter from source in kubuntu what do I do?
[04:41] <valorie> so I suggest 15.04 in a VM or so
[04:41] <fewcha_> okay
[04:42] <mintx> During install it never asked me to set up a root pwd..
[04:43] <valorie> mintx: your user password is what you use for sudo
[04:43] <valorie> !sudo
[04:43] <mintx> Okay thx
[05:05] <travbuntu> okay the install is done :P
[05:05] <travbuntu> this os is beautiful though, it kindof reminds me of the new osx
[05:10] <valorie> mintx: good to hear
[05:22] <mintx_> how can I change the panel color?
[05:25] <valorie> you can change the colors in systemsettings
[05:28] <mintx_> Can I change transparency?
[05:30] <valorie> yes..... I would just start typing that in krunner
[05:30] <valorie> and it will pop up
[05:30] <valorie> alt+space now works for krunner by default
[05:30] <valorie> huge timesaver
[05:33] <mintx_> it wont open
[05:33] <mintx_> I even tried sudo krunner
[05:33] <valorie> please do NOT use sudo for such things
[05:33] <valorie> ever
[05:33] <mintx_> lol
[05:33] <valorie> try alt+f2
[05:34] <valorie> you think I'm kidding?
[05:34] <valorie> I'm not
[05:34] <valorie> !sudo
[05:34] <mintx_> its cool dw
[05:34] <mintx_> yeah its still not coming up when I click on it.
[05:35] <valorie> strange
[05:35] <valorie> well, just start systemsettings from the kmenu then
[05:36] <valorie> ubottu: you ok?
[05:36] <valorie> !sudo
[05:36] <mintx_> lol! ^
[05:36] <mintx_> ubottu: hi
[05:37] <mintx_> how update le kernel?
[05:38] <mintx_> nvm
[05:38] <valorie> the experts on the kernel for Ubuntu live in #ubuntu-kernel
[05:38] <valorie> very smart folks
[05:39] <mintx_> I believe I am banned from all ubuntu channels
[05:39] <valorie> this is an ubuntu channel
[05:39] <valorie> so evidently not
[05:39] <mintx_> I mean the legit ubuntu ones
[05:39] <valorie> ...
[05:40] <mintx_> ok maybe its just #ubuntu im banned from
[05:44] <mintx_> oh wow
[05:44] <mintx_> a bug
[05:45] <valorie> what did you find?
[05:45] <mintx_> I was installing terminator from konsole and all the suddon the whole screen goes black except for konversation
[05:45] <mintx_> Think I should reboot
[05:46] <mintx_> The desktop is like gone lol brb
[05:46] <valorie> huh
[05:46] <valorie> !info terminator
[05:57] <mintx> I rebooted and it still only goes to a black screen with a mouse pointer
[05:58] <mintx> I think ill have to uninstall
[05:58] <mintx> :(
[05:58] <valorie> it sounds like a problem with plasmashell
[05:59] <valorie> I don't know why you would need terminator, but I also don't think that caused kwin and/or plasmashell to crash
[05:59] <mintx> I dont think it did i was js thats when it happened
[06:00] <valorie> you can have multiple terminals in one window with nothing special
[06:00] <valorie> or just tab them
[06:00] <valorie> lots of choices
[06:00] <mintx> Ok
[06:00] <valorie> personally, I use yakuake
[06:00] <valorie> pops down from the top with f12
[06:01] <valorie> and can be tabbed
[08:34] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:12] <yance> tes
[10:28] <yossarianuk> hi - I have a couple of usability questions about Plasma5 (using 5.3.x)
[10:28] <yossarianuk> ) How do you get different backgrounds/wallpapers for different workspaces? (I need to easily visually make the distinction between different workspaces)
[10:28] <yossarianuk> 2) I am using Korganizer to sync to google calendar but I do not have any desktop notifications about any events in the calender
[10:29] <lordievader> yossarianuk: For the first, according to Blueskaj that feature has been dropped.
[11:47] <BluesKaj> G'Day folks
[13:26] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: when was that dropped?
[13:26] <ovidiu-florin> I still have it in vivid
[13:26] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: You do? Talk to BluesKaj.
[13:28] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: He has been complaining about that for weeks.
[15:03] <vantu> h
[15:37] <Vecodo> Hello everyone
[15:37] <Vecodo> i got a question
[15:37] <Vecodo> how do i mount a VHD file on a ubuntu 14.04 system? I want it on the orginal system and not use virtualbox software with a virtual image of ubuntu
[15:41] <TJ-> Vecodo: you probably need "virtualbox-fuse" and use "vdfuse" command
[16:51] <Karmelo> Hi!
[16:53] <Karmelo> I would like to ask a question
[17:11] <lordievader> Vecodo: If TJ- method doesn't work you could take the long road. Convert it to a raw image and then mounting that raw image with kpartx or something.
[17:53] <lordievader> Vecodo: http://superuser.com/questions/202684/converting-vhd-imag-to-raw-format
[22:03] <JunkHunk> Hello I managed to build a bridge like it is said here: http://linux-net.osdl.org/index.php/Bridge but i cannot get the bridge to connect to the internet could anyone drop me a line?
[22:08] <JunkHunk> When I write ip route list I can see default gateway already set I then tried dhclient mybridge but still no connection
[22:28] <pr0metheu5> so, I installed Kubuntu last night and went to sleep without trying it out
[22:29] <pr0metheu5> I get to the login screen and login, only to get to the login screen again for a second time
[22:29] <pr0metheu5> after logging in the second time, I just get to a blank screen and nothing happens
[22:30] <pr0metheu5> is kubuntu 15.04 really this unstable?
[22:46] <pr0metheu5> I did a fresh install of Kubuntu last night - and I either keep getting the login loop, or have to login twice to get stuck on a light grey screen.
[22:51] <Chaser> pr0metheu5: May sound silly - but did you update after fresh install ? My initial upgrade to 15.04 was unstable but its usable now after all the updates since then.
[22:52] <pr0metheu5> Chaser - I chose to download updates during the install process
[22:52] <pr0metheu5> Chaser - perhaps I shouldn't? Perhaps I should update only after it's installed and working properly, what do you think?
[22:53] <Chaser> I would update it.
[22:56] <pr0metheu5> upgrading it now, hopefully this fixes it
[23:11] <pr0metheu5> upgrading it did not help either