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NoskcajLaney, Could you please update the gnome-keyring in the gpg ppa to lp:~noskcaj/gnome-keyring/merge04:34
NoskcajI've merged debian's new release in, which properly removes the old .desktop file04:36
pittiGood morning04:50
Noskcajgood afternoon pitti04:52
pittihey Noskcaj, how are you?04:53
Noskcajpretty good. you?04:54
pittivery well, thanks!04:55
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seb128good morning desktopers07:41
pittibonjour seb128 ! as-tu eu un bon week-end ?07:41
seb128hey pitti07:42
seb128très bon ! et toi ?07:42
seb128nous avons été à la plage hier07:42
pittiseb128: bien aussi ! un ami nous a visité07:43
pittiseb128: nous ici samedi, la seule façon de survivre :)07:43
seb128ici ?07:44
pittiseb128: err, "aussi"07:44
seb128pitti, vous avez des plages prêt de chez vous ?07:45
pittiseb128: pas une vraie plage, mais un lac07:46
seb128ah ok, c'est un peu pareil :-)07:46
pittice qui est important -- il y a de l'eau froide :)07:46
seb128oui ;-)07:46
pittiseb128: we also played some mini-golf and table tennis07:47
seb128nice07:48
seb128here we also visited a museum yesterday afternoon when it started raining07:48
seb128weather is cooler since it rained, which is a good thing07:49
seb128couldn't sleep well when it was so hot07:49
pittiyeah, tropic nights are a nuisance07:49
pittiici nous avons de la pluie ce matin, qui a aidé un peu07:50
* pitti is still confused about the news about the greek plebiscite yesterday -- I have little idea what that actually means07:52
pitti"do you agree to a nonexistent reform proposal?"07:53
willcookemorning07:55
larsumorning people07:55
pittihey willcooke, hallo larsu07:56
larsuany bzr experts here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/11829778/07:56
pittilarsu: bzr upgrade07:57
larsupitti: thank you sir :)07:57
pittilarsu: apparently the branch you were pulling from got checked out many many years ago?07:57
larsuthat error message could include that little titbit ;)07:57
pittilarsu: FWIW, it's ti*d*bit :)07:58
larsupitti: no, it was from a previous branch I did a couple of weeks ago07:58
larsupitti: ugh indeed. sorry. *slightlyembarassed*07:58
pittilarsu: you can also upgrade the remote branch with bzr upgrade lp:..., in case that's the outdated one08:02
seb128hey willcooke larsu08:03
Laneyyo yo08:04
pittihey Laney!08:04
seb128hey Laney, how are you?08:04
seb128pitti, yeah, unsure where Greece is going...08:04
Laneyhey pitti & seb12808:04
larsumorning Laney and seb128!08:04
Laneywhat's up?08:04
Laneyhi larsu!08:05
pittiLaney: global meltdown apparently08:05
Laneyoh yes08:10
* Laney observes this maybe differently from a non euro location08:10
pittiapparently the US also had quite some heat recently, but supposedly not our friends on the southern hemisphere :)08:11
pittiLaney: oh, you meant the financial/greek meltdown .. that too :008:12
Laneyyou mean a *real* meltdown?08:12
* larsu definitelt melted down over the weekend08:13
Laneywas warm but not hot here :)08:13
larsu*definitely08:13
pittiLaney: it has been crushingly hot the last two weeks08:13
Laneyprobably like 22-2508:13
pitticomfy!08:13
Laneyand a huuuuuuuge storm (by uk standards) on friday night which passed right overhead08:13
* Laney wonders if chrisccoulson had that too08:14
chrisccoulsonWe did!08:14
Laney\o/08:14
* Noskcaj is enjoying winter08:15
darkxstNoskcaj, our winter is broken! way too warm here08:16
Noskcajdarkxst, I'm in cairns ATM, so it's expected. It's still below zero back in armidale08:17
NoskcajWhat's the temp in Melbourne?08:17
darkxstits been 15-20 most days08:17
chrisccoulsonLaney, one of my old school friends posted a picture of their neighbours house the morning after the storm08:18
chrisccoulson(it got struck by lightning)08:18
darkxstIm in Woodend though, and 15 in winter is just not normal08:18
Laneychrisccoulson: oh... was it damaged?08:21
chrisccoulsonLaney, it didn't look bad. It looks like it attached to the lead flashing around the chimney breast and then left a scorch mark down the side of the house08:21
chrisccoulsonchimeny even, because it was on the outside08:22
Laneyah, could be worse08:28
seb128larsu, does https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/humanity/all-sizes-for-draw-accept/+merge/263865 fixes the issue for you? it doesn't for me :-/09:20
larsuseb128: oh? Running it now and it works perfectly. There's a bit of link renaming and file moving in there - maybe it got messed up in the process?09:24
larsuseb128: did you restart nautilus?09:24
seb128larsu, shrug, ignore me09:25
seb128I'm not awake yet09:25
larsuseb128: never! :)09:25
larsu(ignore you, I mean)09:25
seb128I applied the diff locally, of course that doesn't carry renames and symlinks over...09:25
larsuah!09:25
larsuya, that's the actual interesting change :)09:25
seb128yeah, and I read the mps and saw that09:25
seb128I just didn't want to build the package and didn't think that patch wouldn't do enough :p09:26
larsuah, got it :) no worries!09:26
larsuI started scalable directories and started looking into moving lots of stuff over there09:26
seb128larsu, are they other humanity changes coming or should I land that one?09:26
larsuseb128: not yet, please. One more at least coming09:27
seb128ok, no hurry, thanks09:27
larsuactually let me finish that right now as I already know what the issue is09:27
* larsu makes tea first though09:27
larsuseb128: if you know of more issues in the icon theme, now is the time (I'm working on the gedit icon size issue now)09:28
seb128larsu, let me have a look, but I don't have any in mind atm09:29
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seb128yeah, today's snappy personal image boots to a working unity8 session!11:43
seb128willcooke, Laney ^11:43
Laneynice11:44
Laneywhat was the last bit?11:44
seb128Laney, do you have a specific issue in mind?11:46
willcookeseb128, wooo!  Great work!11:46
seb128vt switching is not working correctly under Xorg, but I enabled autologin, which workarounds it11:46
seb128also robert_ancell suggested we should enable u-s-c as system compositor11:46
seb128which also wouldn't have that issue11:47
seb128I'm going to look at that next11:47
seb128also unity8 desktop lock regressed, that got fixed in friday's landing11:47
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seb128dobey, hey, you said you would merge in https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/software-center/gtk-has-icon/+merge/261867 and is that still on your list?13:39
seb128I uploaded to vivid/wily but having them in the vcs as well would be nice13:39
dobeyseb128: yes. just been having my plate overflowing with hard problems the past couple weeks for the ota-5 deadlines13:43
dobeyseb128: so, "soon" :)13:43
seb128dobey, no worry, just checking it was not forgot, thanks13:44
mitya57Hey, does anybody know whom I can contact for sni-qt merge proposals?14:43
mitya57(Or alternative question: is Renato Filho on IRC?)14:45
larsumitya57: ya, renatu in #ubuntu-touch14:51
mitya57thanks larsu!14:54
larsuLaney: do you know of other apps that have the problem from bug #1463390 ?15:31
ubot5bug 1463390 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "GtkToolbar icons scale wrongly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/146339015:31
larsuturns out, this is due to gtk commit https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=f3ef3165df34ab509a7165165360680bf30dd0cb15:31
larsuwhich breaks for stock icons (which shouldn't be used anymore)15:31
larsuI guess we could fix gtk, but all that code is in some deprecated/ directories now15:32
Laneylarsu: nein15:35
Laneywhy does it break for us but not adwaita?15:36
larsuthey don't have .svg files in the non-scalable directorues15:36
larsu(apart from the spinner, apparently)15:36
Laneyoh right15:37
Laneyis it hard for us to stop doing that?15:37
larsuI don't know why we ever did it in the first place...15:37
larsuit's got to be pretty hard on cpu to always render svg15:37
Laneyya...15:38
larsuwe could prerender them all - not sure how adwaita is doing that15:38
larsubut I mean, this is a legit gtk bug15:38
Laneycan you see how to fix it while keeping their case?15:41
Laneydo this only for scalable?15:41
larsuyou mean the dir name "scalable"15:42
larsuthat's just a convention, wouldn't like to hard-code that into gtk15:42
Laneyya15:43
larsuicon spec is a mess :/15:43
rickspencer3lol, I just spent the last week assuming that the I was doing something to make the sound indicator crash15:52
rickspencer3of course, I had "Show sound volume in the menu  bar" turned off15:52
rickspencer3this is the second time I have done this :)15:52
seb128yeah, you are not the first one to fall into that one!15:56
Laneyweird preference15:56
seb128why?15:57
seb128we have the same for the other indicators15:57
Laneysome of them15:57
seb128most of them15:58
larsumany of them15:58
Laneyquality argument15:58
seb128datetime/battery/sound/keyboard15:58
Laneybye15:58
seb128?15:58
seb128well, argument is "if it's missing for one tell us which one, we should fix it"15:58
seb128rather than just throw "some" in the air15:58
Laneysession and network, and they are all presented differently15:58
seb128session is probably a special case15:59
LaneyI can't hide the dropbox one either15:59
seb128it's not very optional to be able to log out15:59
seb128right, those are appindicators15:59
LaneyI can press the power button15:59
seb128we don't have an ui to manage those15:59
Laneyit's weird because it is so inconsistent16:00
seb128let me see if I can find the design16:00
seb128maybe it's just missing implementation16:00
seb128it shouldn't be inconsistent16:00
seb128the design is consistent iirc, we probably regressed in implemtation :-/16:00
seb128those are options in the different settings panel, usually at the bottom16:01
Laneyya bluetooth/sound/keyboard have this16:04
seb128power has a combo because it has more states16:07
seb128I can't find the session menu design now16:07
Laneyit's not that important :)16:08
LaneyNoskcaj: will upload your merge tomorrow btw16:50
Laneysee you!17:00
willcookehey robert_ancell20:02
robert_ancellwillcooke, hey20:02
willcookeg'night all20:25

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